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CommentorCommentWorking Group decisionCommentor reply
LC-963 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
This success criterion delivers less in the user experience than UAAG 1.0, checkpoint 3.1. UAAG makes this subject to user profiling.

Single-switch users, for example, rely on context changes that are animated by the system, not triggered one by one by the user.

Low-vision users will come down on different sides of this question depending on how much of the content they can see at once and how much of the session structure they can hold in their head.

Proposed Change:

Best
Make equivalent facilitation (now 4.2) a principle. Include user configuration of the user experience under one of the forms of alternative recognized. State user experience requirements separately; define these by reference to UAAG 1.0. State data-on-the-wire requrements separately. These have two options:

turnkey format -- player meets UAAG requirements directly.
open format -- format populates machinable content model (c.f. rewritten 4.1) with information and actions that let UA manage and provide this capability.
Determining equivalent facilitation at this granularity so that it is testable is beyond the scope of WCAG 2. User agents and assistive technology may present alternative renderings of the content tailored for the user, but the author should present a base set of behaviors in which changes of context are initiated only by user request. no
LC-1049 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
2.3.2: This should be L2 or there should be a L2 equivalent

Proposed Change:

Create L2 equivalent
Because of the limitations that SC 3.2.3 places on presentation, the working group feels that level AAA is appropriate. Not all Guidelines have success criteria at every level. no
LC-1066 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
Images for markup: Seeing as this WCAG1 checkpoint does not map to a particular SC, does this mean that WCAG2 allows images to be used instead of markup, for example, images of text, instead of CSS-manipulated text? Or images for bullets instead of marked up bulleted lists?

Proposed Change:

Clarify the mapping of 3.1.
The mapping has been removed from the WCAG document itself and will now be included in the WCAG 1.0 to WCAG 2.0 transition materials. This will make it easier to update the mapping as new techniques are developed.

The working group will work in coordination with the EOWG WCAG 2.0 Materials Support Task Force in the creation of transition materials and will consider these comments when the mapping is updated.

To answer your question, WCAG 2.0 does not prohibit the use of images of text provided that they have text alternatives. There is, however, an advisory technique that advises against the use of images of text in order to acheive a desired visual effect. Success criterion 1.3.1 lists the use of <ol>, <ul> and <dl> for lists as a sufficient technique. Other techniques could be used, but text alternatives would have to make the information and relationships conveyed through this use of images clear.
no
LC-1071 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
Properly positioned labels: 10.2 no longer maps to any particular SC. Although this checkpoint was included in WCAG1 to assist people who use screen readers, prior to the uptake of explicit labelling, this is still a very important SC for people who use magnifiers and people with cognitive disabilities.

Proposed Change:

Create a new SC the equivalent of 10.2 (I am happy to write this)
Assistive technology has advanced since the WCAG 1.0 guidelines were released. As long as the label is explicitly associated with a field, assistive technologies can present the information to the user in an understandable manner. However, since visual positioning can be important, especially for pages translated into other languages, we have added an advisory technique to Success Criterion 1.3.1 and Guideline 3.2 titled "Positioning labels to maximize predictability of relationships."

Note: The mapping has been removed from the WCAG document itself. The working group will work in coordination with the EOWG WCAG 2.0 Materials Support Task Force in the creation of transition materials and will consider these comments when the mapping is updated.
no
LC-1191 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
Definition of USER AGENT is "any software that retrieves and renders Web content for users". In several places it is emphasized that this includes assistive technology, but this definition seems to exclude many types of assistive technology such as speech recognition used for command-and-control, which neither retrieves nor renders, but does rely on access to the information being rendered. Also, the word "retrieves" seems to imply fetching from some remote source (e.g. over the Web), which would exclude screen readers; on the other hand, "retrieves" could be taken to mean getting the data from anywhere, including from another user agent, but by that interpretation a display driver would count as assistive technology.

Proposed Change:

Change to read "any software that retrieves and renders Web content for users, or manipulates such content to assist the user in using the Web content or controls"
The current wording is taken from UAAG and the proposed wording is not sufficiently different to warrant changing the UAAG definition. Most of what was added could be interpreted as part of rendering the content. no
LC-1062 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
4.1.2: What is the "name" or the "role"? What does it mean "values can be set by the user"?

Proposed Change:

Rewrite SC 4.1.2
The terms "name" "role" and "programmatically set" are each defined in the glossary. How to Meet SC 4.1.2 describes the intent of this success criterion and provides techniques about how to meet it. With regard to your suggestion to rewrite 4.1.2, without more information about the problems you see with this provision or specific suggestions for how to rewrite this criterion, we are unsure how to address your comment. no
LC-1027 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
Definition of accessibility - In the Baseline document (under the heading 'If the WCAG does not set the baseline, then how can we be sure that a site will be accessible?) it says "No site or content is ever completely accessible". In the Conformance document it says "Note that even conformance to all three levels will not make web content accessible to all people." I strongly object to these statements. All content can be made accessible. In some cases, content may not be accessible, but if the problems were identified it could be made accessible. As the main body representing accessibility I think it reprehensible that we have these statements.

Proposed Change:

Remove the statements. Merge Level 1 and Level 2 SC into one group called 'Mandatory'. Rename Level 3 to 'Advisory' or 'Optional'
The statements you refer to are meant to reflect the reality that not all Web content can be made accessible to all people. One of the lessons learned with WCAG 1.0 was that, for some individuals, even content that meets WCAG 1.0 AAA did not overcome the accessibility barriers faced by those with certain combinations of disabilities or with certain types of severe disabilities.

Regarding the proposal to combine levels A and AA as mandatory and rename level AAA to advisory or optional, the working group has received a great deal of feedback on both sides of this issue. We have chosen three levels because we feel it provides the best options for the different users of the guidelines.
no
LC-1054 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
2.4.7: This should be at Level 1. Determining the current location is sometimes very difficult for both people who use screen readers and people with cognitive disabilities

Proposed Change:

Move to Level 1
This success criterion is at level AAA because not all web pages are part of a set of web pages to which this success criterion can be applied. The working group agrees that when it does apply, it is very important for people with these disabilities. no
LC-1058 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
2.5.4: This should be Level 1. Context sensitive help is very important to people who use screen readers and people with cognitive disabilities.

Proposed Change:

Move to Level 1
While context sensitive help is useful and sometimes necessary for people with disabilities, the type and level of detail for context sensitive help varies greatly depending upon the type and functions of the site. Requirements must be applicable to all Web sites in order to qualify as Level A or Level AA in WCAG 2.0. no
LC-1059 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
3.1.4: If information is provided in an abbreviated form without expansion, then the content is essentially inaccessible to people that cannot interpret the abbreviation. People who use screen readers and people with cognitive disabilities often have difficulties interpreting abbreviations.

Proposed Change:

There should be a Level 1 version of this SC which requires that important abbreviated information is marked up, or expanded the first time it is used in a page
As outlined by the different situations in SC 3.1.4, providing the expansion for the first use of an abbreviation is only a sufficient technique when the abbreviation only has one expansion on that web page, e.g., Dr. is only used as an abbreviation for doctor or for drive, but not for both. Otherwise, providing the expansion on the first use will be more confusing for users with cognitive disabilities. no
LC-1060 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
3.2.1 & 2.2.5: From my reading, 3.2.1 outlaws changes of context when a component receives focus, but 2.2 allows changes in content for no reason (only outlawing at L3)

Proposed Change:

Rewrite SC 3.2.1 and 2.2.5
While it is possible that the result of a time limit expiration may be a change in context or content, success criterion 2.2.1 and 3.2.1 (both at level A) work together to ensure that both unexpected changes in context as the result of a component receving focus (3.2.1) and changes in content resulting from a time-out (2.2.1) will not occur unexpectedly. While exceptions to success criterion 2.2.1 for real-time events and activities where timing is essential exist, guideline 2.2 does not allow changes in content for no reason. no
LC-1064 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
4.1: There should be (preferably at Level 1) a requirement for content to validate

Proposed Change:

Create a Level 1 SC requiring validation
The working group looked at this topic carefully over an extended period of time and concluded that requiring strict adherence to all aspects of specifications does not necessarily result in an increase in accessibility. For example, it is possible to create invalid pages that present no accessibility barriers. It is also possible in certain situations to enhance accessibility through the use of markup that is not part of the specification.

The working group must work within its charter and only include things that directly affected accessibility. Some aspects of "use technologies according to specification" and validity do relate to accessibility. However, others do not. So requiring validity would take us beyond our charter. We do recommend it though and it is our number one technique listed for conforming to SC 4.1.1.
no
LC-1096 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
2.2.6: This should be at Level 2. If someone is using an authenticated session and cannot complete the information before automatic logoff, then being able to continue after re-login is imperative in order to use the system. Otherwise the system is inaccessible

Proposed Change:

Move 2.2.6 to Level 1
The working group has discussed this issue. The criteria for having something at Level AA is that it must be something that can reasonably be applied to all Web content. But there are valid reasons, such as financial security or personal information where this cannot be done because it is against regulations to preserve any of this information once a session expires or is terminated. The working group therefore decided to put this requirement at Level AAA. no
LC-974 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
Navigation is a User Agent function enabled by structure in the content. This is not a content guideline, but a user experience requirement handled in the User Agent.

Proposed Change:

Replace with a narrower provision that says "navigation paths defined in the content encoding correspond to the logical order information which is the subject of 1.3.3"
Thank you for bringing this to our attention. We have added the following definition for the term "sequentially navigated":

navigated sequentially
navigated in the order defined for advancing focus from one element to the next with the keyboard.

We have also added the following explanation to the Intent Section of SC 2.4.6:

The way that sequential navigation order is determined in Web content is defined by the technology of the content. For example, simple HTML defines sequential navigation via the notion of tabbing order. Dynamic HTML may modify the navigation sequence using scripting along with the addition of a tabindex attribute to allow focus to additional elements. In this case, the navigation should follow relationships and sequences in the content. If no scripting or tabindex attributes are used, the navigation order is the order that components appear in the content stream. (See HTML 4.01 Specification, section 17.11, "Giving focus to an element").
no
LC-1045 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
Term: Programmatically determined - The definition for "programmatically determined" is "determined by software from data provided in a user-agent supported manner such that the user agents can extract and present this information to users in different modalities". What is the definition by "user agent supported manner"? Does this mean that even if only one user agent on only on version of an operating system can extract the information then it complies? What about people with colour blindness? If faced with an image they can't interpret due to colour blindness, they could just use a colour picker tool which will tell them the hex values of each pixel and determine the contents of an image that way.

Proposed Change:

Redefine SC that use the term programmatically determined
The notion of "programmatically determined" is basic to the success criteria that use it; we don't see a way of redefining those success criteria not to use the concept.

The first issue in "programmatically determined" is making sure that the information is represented in the technology in a way that is clear and unambiguous within the capabilities of that technology. Many of the most serious issues addressed by requiring that information be programmatically determined have to do with authors implying information via visual presentation, rather than encoding it explicitly in the technology.

We put extensive work into the difficult issue that you identify, of "which assistive technology"? The basic answer is that it is the assistive technology available to the audience. Individual techniques identify issues with specific versions of user agents and assistive technology, so that authors can make informed decisions about whether the techniques are acceptable for their audience.
no
LC-1069 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
Stylesheets: It could be argued that the sequence of content can always be programmatically determined- otherwise it could not be presented to the user in that particular sequence. Because 1.3.3 maps to checkpoint 6.1, it is obvious that what is meant by the WCAG2 SC is that if style sheets are used to manipulate the layout of text, then the layout without style sheets must present a meaningful alternative. However it can be argued that simply because a user agent (ie browser) can interpret the style sheet to present information in a certain way, that it is automatically programmatically determinable.

Proposed Change:

Clarify the SC 1.3.3
Please note that the the definition of programmatically determined specifically covers support by assistive technologies:
"determined by software from author-supplied data provided in a way that different user agents, including assistive technologies, can extract and present this information to users in different modalities".

CSS can be used to position items visually on a page. While the position is of course programatically determined, the reading order on the basis of CSS positioning is not, because CSS lacks layout concepts such as "previous" or "next" that would define, unambiguously, the proper reading order of a graphical layout. In theory, advanced heuristics might be able to extrapolate this information, but such approaches are not supported by current tools so this is not a sufficient technique at this time. Therefore, this success criterion does have relevance and it is recommended to follow the sufficient techniques provided.
no
LC-1070 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
Baseline CSS: This mapping essentially says that if CSS is in the baseline then information can be put into the style sheet and not in the HTML. This appears to allow formatting (ie headings) via CSS and not HTML, important images included in CSS and not HTML, etc. How is someone who uses a screen reader going to interpret this? How are they going to be able to access the information they require?

Proposed Change:

Clarify baseline requirements
If CSS is an accessibility-supported Web technology, then the author can rely on it to satisfy success criterion. However, the success criterion must still be satisfied. So, for instance, if non-text content that conveys information is included via CSS, SC 1.1.1 requires that a text alternative also present equivalent information. This information must be programmatically determined, that is, exposed to assistive technologies.

So even if most of the features or functionality of a Web technology are accessibility supported, it may not be possible to use certain functionality in the technology and still conform to WCAG.

We have completely rewritten the Conformance section, and this should now be clearer.
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LC-1162 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
1.4.2 requires a mechanism to turn off "background audio that plays automatically, without requiring the user to turn off all audio". This is good except that "background audio" is not defined. Is it audio that is played at the same time as other audio, but is considered to be less important (i.e. background behind other audio)? Or Is it audio that is purely decorative and/or atmospheric, but not required for understanding or use of the web unit (regardless of whether other audio is playing)?

Proposed Change:

Define "background audio", or change "background audio" to either "audio" or "purely decorative audio".
Good point. We have revised the success criterion 1.4.2 to read, "1.4.2 If any audio plays automatically for more than 3 seconds, either a mechanism is available to pause or stop the audio, or a mechanism is available to control audio volume which can be set independently of the system volume." no
LC-1169 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
2.2.3. requires that content can be paused by the user (barring certain exceptions). Pausing, as opposed to Stopping, implies there is UI to un-pause the content. Would it be acceptable to allow decorative content to be stopped, but not provide UI to resume it? The current wording would preclude that.
The success criterion has been modified as you suggest to allow moving content that is pure decoration to simply be stopped without requiring a means to restart it. no
LC-1172 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
4.1.1 requires that Web content to be parsed unambiguously. Does this require the formal specifications be open, so that new user agents can parse the content? For example, suppose the baseline specifies just one Web browser, that implements rules for applying defaults to resolve any potential ambiguities in HTML that might be interpreted differently if another browser were used; is the HTML parsable unambiguously within the scope of the baseline? As another example, suppose a Web uses a proprietary data format that only a single plug-in can render; does it matter if it's parsable unambiguously if there is only one renderer?

Proposed Change:

Insert the phrase ", using publicly available specifications", to read "Web units or authored components can be parsed unambiguously, using publicly available specifications, and the relationships in the resulting data structure are also unambiguous.
To make this requirement easier to understand, we have reworded SC 4.1.1 to clarify that it must be possible to parse content without the need for user agent repair. The revised SC reads as follows:

4.1.1 Content implemented using markup languages has elements with complete start and end tags, except as allowed by their specifications, and are nested according to their specifications. (Level A)

Note: Start and end tags that are missing a critical character in their formation, such as a closing angle bracket or a mismatched attribute value quote are not complete.
no
LC-1180 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
Definition of CONTENT currently reads ""information to be communicated to the user by means of a user agent"" and has a Note which reads ""This includes the code and markup that define the structure, presentation, and interaction, as well as text, images, and sounds that convey information to the end-user."".

Content is defined as being limited to ""information"", but the definition of ""information"" seems to exclude purely decorative elements and elements who purpose is to create a specific sensory experience; both of those are distinguished from informational content in the document, but seem to clearly be part of the content. That should be acknowledged here.

(Content also include controls whose purpose is to gather input from the user, but I guess we don't need to call those out since they must also have some presentation.)

Similarly, the Note seemt to say that scripts included in a Web page are part of the content, but these don't fit into the definition of ""information"" as they might respond to user input or other triggers, without having any presentation of their own. Thus, the Note seems to contradict the definitions themselves.

It is unfortunate that the document defines ""information"", ""purely decorative elements"", and content ""designed to create a specific sensory experience"" as mutually exclusive, with no term that currently includes them all. I believe that ""content"" should be that term, but it would require broadening the definition of ""content"" beyond just ""information"" or broadening the definition of ""information"".

Proposed Change:

Change to "information and decorative or sensory elements to be communicated to the user by means of a user agent, as well as code or markup that define the stucture, presentation, and interactions associated with those elements".
We have updated the definition, but have used slightly different wording. The definition now reads, "information and sensory experience to be communicated to the user by means of a user agent, as well as code or markup that define the structure, presentation, and interactions associated with those elements" no
LC-1185 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
Definitions of TEXT and NON-TEXT CONTENT is ambiguous about whether an image of text is text or non-text content. Please add clarification. This is a problem because most success criteria are written assuming that "text" is parsable by assistive technology (i.e. not just a picture of characters) (e.g. "text alternatives"), but others seem to only require that "text" be readable by humans (i.e. it can be just an image of characters) (e.g. captions on DVDs).

Proposed Change:

Add to the definition of non-text content, "Note: This includes images of words and characters that may look like text when viewed with human sight but are not programmatically accessible."
The definition of text and non-text have been changed to remove any ambiguity that the text must be programmatically determinable (see http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#textdef and http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#non-text-contentdef ).

text
sequence of characters that can be programmatically determined, where the sequence is expressing something in human language


non-text content
any content that is not a sequence of characters that can be programmatically determined or where the sequence is not expressing something in human language

Note: This includes ASCII Art (which is a pattern of characters) and leetspeak (which is character substitution). .
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LC-757 Jessica Enders <jessicae@hiser.com.au> on behalf of The Hiser Group (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

This Criterion states that \"Context-sensitive help is available for text input\". The accompanying advice on how to meet this criterion seems to suggest that such help must be available for ALL text input fields.
If it is sufficient, to meet this criterion, to have clear labels for all text input fields, then you can ignore my comments here. However, if the guidelines are suggesting that there needs to be specific help text for every text-entry field, AS WELL AS a clear label, then please read on!
As a professional and experienced questionnaire designer, I feel this is unreasonable and may in fact hinder usability for all users, not just those with a disability, and reduce data quality.
It is well documented that providing examples for a question can, in fact, reduce the accuracy of the response because users tend to limit their thinking to just those provided examples. Moreover, good form design notes that the information required to provide a response should ideally be located with the label for that response field (ie don\'t separate instructions from the relevant questions). As such, authors should be incorporating all the information that is needed into the label/question, rather than providing some information in a separate area.

Add to this the fact that there isn\'t much useful help that can be added to many text fields. For example, what help would you give for your own text field \"Proposed Change\" below? Adding text along the lines of \"Please type here a description of the change that you think we should make\" is superfluous, patronising and degrades the user experience. Please let us not return to the bad old days where even fields such as \"Family Name\" had an instruction that consequently made users feel like idiots, and contributed to the instruction blindness that is prevalent today.

Proposed Change:

Reword the criterion or its associated documentation to make it clear that:
- in all cases, the label for the text entry field must clearly communicate what sort of information should be provided in the field
- additional context-sensitive help need only be provided where it is reasonably required to explain what is to be entered, or to minimise the burden on the user.
We have added clarification of this to the How to Meet document. It reads:

Context-sensitive help only needs to be provided when the label is not sufficient to describe all functionality. In most cases, context-sensitive help should not be placed in the form itself, but should instead be available to users when they request it (e.g. by linking to a separate help file).

Note: Reviewer response to this issue has been picked up as issue #1930 in WCAG Bugzilla.
no
LC-1001 Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org> on behalf of W3C/WAI, on behalf of the Education and Outreach Working Group (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: substantive
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

The definition for assistive technology is difficult to understand because it gives the restrictive before the general meaning; also, it may be too restrictive, in describing legacy assistive technologies (for instance, some screen readers now are creating their own DOM separate from the mainstream browser).


Proposed Change:

EOWG recommends eliminating part (1) of the definition. (Note: We think that this would work *because* your definition of user agent is broad enough to already cover some of the functions of some assistive technologies.)

Response: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2007Jun/0405.html
We have changed the order of the items in the definition to make the restriction less confusing. We feel it is important to keep the restriction that assistive technology depends on a host user agent so that the success criteria require support for external assistive technology and can't just be satisfied by mechanisms that are internal to the user agent. However, we have added a note that host user agents may provide direct support for users with disabilities. no
LC-1423 Ben Caldwell <caldwell@trace.wisc.edu>
This is a placeholder issue, used to support a feature that allows us to edit multiple issues at once. Please do not delete.
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LC-1056 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
2.4.4 & 2.4.8: 2.4.8 should move to Level 1 and replace 2.4.4. People who use screen readers often navigate through a page by tabbing from link to link and therefore can determine the content on the page. Allowing for link text to not describe the target of the link means that these users will find it difficult to navigate.

Proposed Change:

Move to Level 1 and delete 2.4.4
SC 2.4.8 is at level AAA because of the potential usability problems introduced by requiring that the link text alone be sufficient. For instance, in a table of links, repeating the table header information in each cell makes the table much more difficult to use.

The basic requirement that assistive technology be able to determine the purpose of the link is covered by SC 2.4.4. This success criterion has been moved to level A.
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LC-1057 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
2.5: There should be a Level 1 SC which requires error prevention techniques, such as providing instructions at the beginning of a form

Proposed Change:

Create a new SC. I am happy to help with this
In addition to success criteria 2.5.3 and 2.5.4 in the April 2006 draft, we have created two new success criteria intended to help users avoid errors:
1. A Level AA success criterion "Labels or instructions are provided when content requires user input".
2. A Level AAA success criterion that is similar to the level AA (was 2.5.3) success criterion except there are no exceptions. "For forms that require the user to submit information, at least one of the following is true:
1. Reversible: Transactions are reversible.
2. Checked: Submitted data is checked for input errors before going on to the next step in the process.
3. Confirmed: A mechanism is available for reviewing, confirming, and correcting information before finalizing the transaction."
no
LC-1063 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
4.1.1: How is this to be tested?

Proposed Change:

Provide information
To make this requirement easier to understand, we have reworded SC 4.1.1 to clarify that it must be possible to parse content without the need for user agent repair. The revised SC reads as follows:

4.1.1 Content implemented using markup languages has elements with complete start and end tags, except as allowed by their specifications, and are nested according to their specifications. (Level A)

Note: Start and end tags that are missing a critical character in their formation, such as a closing angle bracket or a mismatched attribute value quote are not complete.

Information about how to test this criterion is available in Understanding 4.1.1.
no
LC-1177 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
Definition of API is defined as "definitions of how communication may take place between applications", but that should be "between application or software components", as most API are used between components that are not applications, and we don't want to limit our discussion to only those API that are between one application and another.

Proposed Change:

Change to "definitions of how communication may take place between applications or software components".
Application Programming Interface (API) is now defined:
"definitions of how communication may take place between applications".

See http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#apidef .
no
LC-1178 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
Definition of ASSISTIVE TECHNOLOGY is defined as "a user agent that: 1... 2 ..."; in all cases where a list of criteria is presented, it should be made explicit whether the relationship between the elements in the list is AND or OR.

Proposed Change:

Change "a user agent that:" to "a user agent that both:".
Change "monitoring APIs." to "monitoring APIs, and".
The draft has been updated as proposed. no
LC-959 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
The non-text content must be implemented such that it can be ignored anyway, even if the text equivalent provides full equivalent
facilitation. You can't have the video frame-change events capturing the AT's attention, etc. The requirement stated here applies all the time, not only for pure decoration.

Proposed Change:

Break out into separate requirement on the "as communicated" representation of the content, a.k.a. the "data on the wire."
Although this is theoretically accurate, the assistive technology does not have settings to ignore all content. The current wording seems to best communicate the intent. yes
LC-965 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
This requirement is mis-filed in the current outline. This is a control issue, a matter of keeping actions under the user's command. If it were an orientation issue (principle 3) one could repair by announcing context changes. That is not enough. In the current outline it belongs with Principle 2.

Proposed Change:

re-flow this requirement under what the user can do, not what they can understand.
This success criterion is included because the unexpected change of context is disorienting, not because it introduces barriers to operation. yes
LC-971 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
Having the HTML spec say that @alt was to contain a short description of the image caused years of dysfunctional ALT texts to be written. Haven't we had enough of this? "Descriptive" is narrow in a misleading way; need something that is more evocative of the breadth of information covered by these various compoents and their short labels.

Proposed Change:

Use "are explanatory" or "are fitting."
While we agree that "descriptive" can be misinterpreted, we have not been able to come up with a better adjective to convey what is sought. We think that "explanatory" or "fitting" will be less clear to readers who do not already understand the issues. yes
LC-972 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
If there is a mechanism that satisfies one of these, there is a mechanism that satisfies the other, because the UA can infer meaning from pronunciation and vice versa.

Proposed Change:

merge these two clauses
There are many examples where knowledge of pronunciation are not sufficient to provide meaning. For Japanese, meaning issues are not always the same as pronunciation issues. The meaning is needed for words or phrases which are unfamiliar to the users even if user knows the pronunciation/reading. And the pronunciation is needed for Han characters, especially for proper nouns such as the name of a person or a place. There are also unfamiliar Han characters which are difficult for users to read. Additionally, Japanese screen readers can't read some Han characters correctly in some cases as the Han characters have multiple readings in general. yes
LC-973 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
Principle is "First, Do no Harm." Compare with Hippocratic Oath. This is a safety requirement, it comes before access requirements, and is not an access requirement.

Proposed Change:

Introduce separate principle for safety and move this guideline to it. Make it the first, before others. Remove all obstacles to implementing this provision severable from the rest.
This does not change conformance to the guidelines any and therefore has no actual impact on Web content. There is no suggestion for any other success criteria under this principle. It does not seem like a sufficient justification to create a whole new principle with one guideline with 2 success criteria. We have decided to keep this under Ability to Operate section for practical and logistical reasons. yes
LC-976 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
On the face of this, the requirement is unenforceably vague. Need to spell out what you mean by "the purpose of the link" and limit the requirement to concepts the user is likely to recognize.

Proposed Change:

Re-state as (roughly) "When the result of activating a link falls within the general meaning of a widely used and understood term or notion such as 'help' or 'home,' and there is a widely-reognized name or URI for this concept, the association of this link with that concept is machine-recoverable from the encoding of the content (Note 'encoding').
While "purpose" may not perfectly communicate the goal of the link description, it was the best term the working group could come up with. The working group does not feel that using the longer and more technical description that you proposed will help readers understand the success criterion. yes
LC-977 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
This is a general usability practice.

Proposed Change:

Reorganize to address overlap with general usability in a positive way.
See other comments on organization and explanation.
There is some overlap with general usability, but we are staying away from usability as any organizational principle due to strong feelings that WCAG should not address general usability issues that do not affect people with disabilities disproportionately. yes
LC-1195 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
Clause is trivially vague. It will either be satisfied or be inapplicable, because there is no objective standard for when the "and..." condition is met.

This provision is general good usability practice.

The suggestions usually come from the browser's memory of user's response to similar questions in other content. Hence is not a content requirement, but a user experience desideratum which may be satisfied by user's automation or the data received from the author's automation.

Proposed Change:

move to informative annex noting good usability practices that are especially appreciated in the PWD Web experience.
We do not agree that the clause is trivially vague. We agree that this provision is good general usability practice, however, we feel that this is an accessibility issue because of its disproportionate impact on users who have cognitive disabilities that impair problem solving. yes
LC-1198 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
Distinguish requirements that apply at the User Interface, i.e. in the Rendered Content, from requirements that apply at the network interface, i.e. in the Communicated Content.

The latter is defined by how the content is represented as it passes from the author and server's automation to the user's automation.

We may be able to resurrect the notion of a [generic] document object model as a slightly stronger statement of the 4.1 'clean parse' language and tie "programmatically determined" clauses there.

Proposed Change:

Distinguish requirements that apply at the User Interface, i.e. in the Rendered Content, from requirements that apply at the network interface, i.e. in the Communicated Content.

1.3.2 is an example of the former.
1.3.2 is an example of the latter.
This difference is too subtle and the current organization would be more salient to most users of the guidelines. yes
LC-1202 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
Requiring that the other way of showing the color-signaled information is visual is a UI requirement. It is not a content requirement.

This requirement is inappropriate for a claim that includes SALT in its baseline such that the default presentation would speak the information as well as show it with color.

Compare with UAAG 2.3. Sometimes you should not try to replicate the richness of the color coding in other, more limited property spaces, but rather signal that there is further information and expand on the further information on user interactive request.

Compare also to the 'minimized' treatment of notes in a DAISY player. Here the presence of a note is evident, the content of the note is available but on an 'ask for' basis.

24 bits per pixel of color-coded information is just too much information to assume that other visual effects can capture it all.

Proposed Change:

User Interface requirement:

strike the word 'visually' to leave "is also evident, or is available and the availability of more information is evident"

Content requirement:
The default prsentation afforded without user intervention satisfies the above requirement.

[alternate language: .. is visually evident ... in the author-designed visual presentation of the content]

Content requirement:
The connotations of color and other presentation-properties constitute non-text information and must (per 1.1.1) be afforded text explanations that are associated with the items bearing these presentation effects (and connotations), associated by an association that can be programmatically determined.
The group thinks that situations where the density of the color would affect the information in such a way that it is too subtle or complicated to be visually rendered in another way, are extremely rare.

UAAG 2.3 applies to conditional content, and is not equivalent to necessary information that a color blind person can't access.
The DAISY player example of minimizing notes is a different issue because they are not equivalents to content. They are enhanced information, so it makes sense that people should take extra steps to access that information. The group does not think color blind people should be required to go elsewhere to get basic information in circumstances such as those covered in this success criteria. Color, as it applies to this success criteria, is often text based information, and therefore would not be covered under SC 1.1.1.
yes
LC-1204 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
The principle is that "what one can do, others can do."

Interactive objects are an instrumentality, an intermediate level of representation. The content can succeed by affording equivalent facilitation for widgets through menus or other widgets or voice command.

Proposed Change:

There are two principles here:

1) What one can do, others (PWDs) can do. [This is more likely the section head for device-independent interaction etc.]

2) Afford remediation [restore a usable look-and-feel] with as little deformation of the look-and-feel as possible. [This is probably a separate, cross-cutting section explaining why color coding should be _visually evident_ where readily achieved, etc.]
We believe that those two principles are too abstract. We believe that the current structure is more salient. yes
LC-1210 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
Date-qualified claims are introduced in the discussion of migration from WCAG1 to WCAG2. They are also of interest to sites and appropriate to be used in staged adoption plans more generally.

Proposed Change:

Introduce and define terms for date-qualified claims earlier in the general discussion of a cliam.

Don't wait until talking about WCAG1.
Date-qualified claims are an interesting policy for a policy-making organization to consider, and if we write supplementary material for policy makers, we would include it there. But since it is a policy issue, we have removed it from the guidelines themselves. yes
LC-1213 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
The wide-open nature of the baseline means that the obvious interpretation of the W3C Candidate Recommendation phase could never be completed because there would be other baseline profiles that remained un-demonstrated.

Proposed Change:

Minimum:
Spell out an explicit experiment plan for Candidate Recommendation. Define the baselines to be used to demonstrate the effectiveness of these guidelines.

Better:
Make PR [a.k.a. CR exit] contingent on demonstrating the joint statistical distribution of the proposed testable hypotheses and user success in using live contemporary web content.
We will be working with the W3C to define exit criteria for the Candidate Recommendation phase that are appropriate for the WCAG 2.0 guidelines. Formal experimental design of this type is beyond the scope of the Working Group's charter. yes
LC-1215 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
Some wiggle room is attempted in the statement of the individual success criteria, but the general process for arriving at a conformance claim satisfaction is still, as in WCAG, a "one strike and you're out" rule.

Another way to describe it is that there is an "AND" combination of single point test results to get the overall score.

This is a serious problem.

This kind of rollup or score-keeping is seriously out of alignment with the general reduntant quality of natural communication including web content.

In natural communication there is often more than one way to learn what there is to learn from an utterance.

And in GUIs there is often more than one way to effect any given outcome.

So long as there is a go-path and the user can find it, a noGo-path should not force a failing grade for the [subject of conformance claim]

There is prior art in Mean Time Between Failures computations in reliability engineering, in the handling of redundant fallback capability.

Proposed Change:

An approach to consider:

Make the assessment of overall score or rating incorporate the recognition of alternatives at all levels of aggregation and not just at the leaf level. In other words, take systematic account of equivalent facilitation.

If there is an accessible way to learn or do what there is to learn or do, and an accessible way to find this when other paths prove problematic, that content should not fail as a result of the problems with the alternate path. It is not enough to address this in 1.1.1 and 4.2. It needs to be global.
While we think there is promise in using a different strategies than Web page for providing alternative content, we were unable to develop an approach that permitted this flexibility without introducing other problems and loopholes. We recommend that this be investigated for future versions of the guidelines. yes
LC-463 Alexandre Alapetite <alexandre@alapetite.net> (archived comment)
Item Number: Conformance claims
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

While many accessibility criteria can hardly be formalised to be automatically checked by a validator, some of them can.

Previous attempts have been made to formalise some of WCAG 1.0, such as the W3C "Web Content Accessibility Checking Service" [http://www.w3.org/2000/07/eval43/] using Schematron [http://www.w3.org/2000/07/eval43/wai.xml] or the more advanced Petr Nalevka's "Relaxed validator" [http://badame.vse.cz/validator/] using Relax NG with embedded Schematron [http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/relaxed/relaxed/conf/schema/rng/modules/wcag.rng?view=markup].

Proposed Change:

Propose some schemas for checking some of the accessibility rules in (at least) HTML documents (using e.g. XML Schema, Relax NG, Schematron) checking for the criteria that can be formalised. Relax NG + Schematron is imho a good candidate.
This is a recommendation for a method for checking content for conformance, not a success criterion for conformance. The Working Group is not requiring that authors use any particular technique or tools for determining conformance. We believe this comment is best directed to the Evaluation and Repair Tools Working Group. tocheck
LC-934 Andi Snow-Weaver <andisnow@us.ibm.com> on behalf of IBM (archived comment)
"Interoperability" is a better term than "compatibility". Also see comment on principle 4 about "future user agents".

Proposed Change:

Change 4.1 to "Support interoperability with user agents (including assistive technologies)."
Interoperability is actually a subset of compatibility. Compatibility also includes lack of interference with. We intend both aspects of compatibility to apply. yes
LC-1265 Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@visionaustralia.org> on behalf of Vision Australia (archived comment)
Comment: para 3 - "even conformance to all three levels will not make web content accessible to all people". Some guidance needs to be provided as to what else is required to make the content accessible to all - OR who is not included in WCAG 2.0

Proposed Change:

additional references/pointers are required
Due to the wide variability on many dimensions of human ability, there are people who necessarily fall beyond the limits that a practicable set of guidelines can address. WCAG 2.0 addresses all disabilities to some extent, but none absolutely, and the focus is to create a set of guidelines that provides the broadest coverage possible while remaining reasonable for general-purpose guidelines. There is no easy way to describe the boundaries, especially given the continuing development of technologies. We have tried to provide information regarding coverage in the benefits sections and advisory techniques that can also be used to make pages more accessible than the minimum standard required by WCAG. yes
LC-1283 Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@visionaustralia.org> on behalf of Vision Australia (archived comment)
Comment: It is too easy to fail SC at Level 1 - most organisations I have worked with will not go to this length in most cases, hence will never be able to claim even "A" conformance. In fact, on most Government and corporate sites I have worked with, the provision of a transcript and/or a script gives all the information needed to substitute for the multimedia


Proposed Change:

Level 1 should have SC along the lines of "provide a transcript if spoken words only and no action" and "provide a script including the dialogue if video wit activity"

SC 1.2.1 & 1.2.2 should be moved up a level, and all other SC reconsidered as to the appropriate level.
The working group considered carefully the levels assigned to all the GL 1.2 success criteria. SC 1.2.1 and 1.2.2 are level A success criteria because vision and hearing impaired users will not be able to access multimedia without this information. SC 1.2.2 can be satisfied by a full transcript. But captioning is a much better augmentation for the deaf than a separate transcript, since much can be communicated non-verbally, even when there is no action. tocheck
LC-1285 Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@visionaustralia.org> on behalf of Vision Australia (archived comment)
Comment: After playing with the luminosity algorithm for some time now, selected colour combinations are still almost unreadable - eg the algorithm allows blue-on-blue and orange-on-red, both combinations are very difficult to read by anyone. For an example see http://www.recsport.sa.gov.au/. IMHO, the colour-difference aspect of the old draft colour contrast algorithm needs to be reintroduced. For colours schemes that pass luminosity, but fail colour difference, see some of the combinations on http://juicystudio.com/services/coloursaferatio.php?background=003 and related pages.

Proposed Change:

add a colour difference aspect into the colour contrast SC
While the contrast ratios used in the new algorithm do not include the calculations for color difference from the AERT algorithm, it requires a higher contrast ratio than would generally be required to address the needs of users with limited color perception. We have revised the contrast ratio somewhat to account for the conversion from nonlinear to linear RGB values and have provided examples of how various color combinations would be perceived with various color vision deficiencies in the Understanding documents. tocheck
LC-1287 Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@visionaustralia.org> on behalf of Vision Australia (archived comment)
Comment: 20 seconds may well not be long enough to 'hit any key' for some people with severe physical or motor disabilities. Also, what form does the warning take? It needs to be accessible to all as well!

Proposed Change:

drop this bullet
Although it is possible that 20 seconds will be insufficient for some users, the specific time period is required to make this success criterion testable, and a number was chosen that meets the Working Group's best estimate of a reasonable amount of time that meets the needs of nearly all people with disabilities.

The success criterion specifically avoids making requirements about how the warning is provided to the user or how they may respond. Techniques address this issue, with some examples worked out in existing techniques and some examples suggested by undrafted techniques.
yes
LC-1288 Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@visionaustralia.org> on behalf of Vision Australia (archived comment)
Comment: This should be a level 2 SC - for many people with reading difficulties, or using AT, reading a page is a time consuming exersize, and page refreshes may not allow them to read to the end.

Proposed Change:

move this SC up a level & consider strengthening it WRT content refreshing automatically
Automatic page refreshes or updates are a type of time limit covered by SC 2.2.1, which is a Level A success criterion.

See SC 2.2.1 at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#time-limits-required-behaviors .
yes
LC-1295 Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@visionaustralia.org> on behalf of Vision Australia (archived comment)
Comment: What is the point of having 3.1.1 at Level 1, but 3.1.2 at Level 2? My screen reader will then just read the entire page in the web unit language!

Proposed Change:

Move 3.1.2 to Level 1
There were requests to combine SC 3.1.1 and 3.1.2, to move their levels up and to move them down. After much discussion, the consensus of the working group was to leave them in the current positions. tocheck
LC-1297 Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@visionaustralia.org> on behalf of Vision Australia (archived comment)
Comment: Why is a word different from a phrase?

Proposed Change:

Drop the Note!
This note is referring to "individual words or phrases that have become part of the primary language of the content". "Rendezvous" is an example of a word and "a la carte" an example of a group of words (or a phrase) relevant to this scenario. The group does deem the use of both "word" and "phrase" in this note necessary to the outline of this success criterion. yes
LC-693 Bruno von Niman <ANEC_W3CRep_Bruno@vonniman.com> on behalf of ANEC (ANEC-ICT-2006-W3C-006) (archived comment)
Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

It is unclear if and how WCAG 2.0 applies to sites
accessed in off-line mode (e.g. local, synchronized
Web sites)

Proposed Change:

Should be covered by adding at least a sentence in
the introductory chapters or, if possible, more
details.
WCAG 2.0 applies to Web content, and sites accessed in off-line mode are not on the Web. While there is clearly a lot of overlap in the accessibility issues in these two environments, this is outside the charter of the group. It is not clear what you mean by "local-synchronized site" If the local site is a mirror of an on-line site, then the local (off-line) site would be out of scope but the on-line site would be within scope and should meet WCAG. yes
LC-1302 Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com> (archived comment)
Technical/substantive issue

The section currently provides no guidance to actually choosing a baseline
that can in fact be used accessibly.

I propose that the availability of a user agent which meets level-A
conformance to User Agent Accessibility Guidelines 1.0 for the relevant
technology and language be a minimum criterion for the selection of a
baseline.

In this way, selection of a baseline that is not actually accessible
automatically makes it impossible to claim conformance to the
accessibility guidelines. This avoids the situation where it is possible
to construct content that can meet the requirements, but that is not
actually accessible due to the absence of any means for using the baseline
set. Otherwise there is a risk that the value of conformance will be
significantly reduced, since it makes no reliable statement about whether
the content is in fact accessible to real people.

This seems a reasonable requirement given that UAAG is a W3C
recommendation, and does not seem onerous for common web technologies.

cheers

Chaals
For a period, WCAG made the assumption that user agents satisfied UAAG. This would have simplified a number of issues.

However, in the absence of any user agent for any technology that is fully UAAG-compliant, the working group did not think it was practical to require only the use of technologies for which such user agents exist. The effect of such a requirement would be to make it impossible to claim compliance for any web content.

The notion of baseline (now accessibility-supported web technologies) was introduced to make it possible to apply WCAG in environments with a wide range of user agent support for accessibility. It places a much heavier burden on the author to understand the capabilities of his customer's user agents. WCAG will be much easier to satisfy in an environment in which UAAG is satisfied by the available user agents.
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LC-873 Chris Ridpath <chris.ridpath@utoronto.ca> on behalf of ATRC University of Toronto (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: substantive
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

There needs to be a SC for color contrast at level 1. Documents with very poor contrast between text and background do not provide even a minimum level of accesibility.
The guideline text starts with \"Make it easy...\" which means the user should not have to work to get color contrast. Highlighting text within the document to change the contrast is not easy for many people with disabilities and should not be taken as a method of meeting the SC.
This has been discussed recently on the WCAG list but there was no resolution so I\'m submitting this comment.

Proposed Change:

Create a SC for color contrast at level 1. The luminosity ratio should be similar to what is currently at level 2 (5:1).
The description of conformance levels in WCAG 2 has been rewritten to clarify the levels (see http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#overview-levels).

Because level A attempts to put the fewest possible limitations on presentation, and because assistive technology will be able to present the text or text equivalents of this content to the user, the working group felt that this was most appropriate at level AA.
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LC-880 Christophe Strobbe <christophe.strobbe@esat.kuleuven.be> on behalf of DocArch - K.U.Leuven (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: substantive
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Item 2 of optional components of a conformance claim appears to add little useful information to a conformance claim because it is a subset of the baseline information (item 5 of required components of a conformance claim). It seems more useful to me to state which technologies in the baseline are not used or relied upon.

Proposed Change:

Remove item 2 of optional components of a conformance claim or replace it with a list of technologies that are in the baseline but not relied upon.
The list of technologies relied upon is useful for users who may prefer particular technologies. It is easier to search for a listed technology than to search for technologies that are in a documented list of accessibility-supported technologies, but are not in the relied upon technologies.

Documented lists of accessibility-supported web technologies (previously referred to as baselines) may include many more technologies than are used on any given web site. For instance, there may be many different multimedia formats included in such a list. We wish to avoid the situation in which a web page that contains no multimedia would need to list all of them.
yes
LC-1409 David Keech <david.keech@bsi-global.com> on behalf of British Standards Instution, London, UK (archived comment)
2. Metadata

We recommend that WCAG 2.0 address the issue of locating good or useable resources by requiring that every resource carry or refer to a description of its accessibility characteristics. Without this the best resources may not be found and a resource that is not universally accessible may not be made available to
a user that could use it even if it is not useable to others.

This comment has also been made in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public comments wcag20/2006Jun/0091.html with which we agree.
{not-accept}

While the working group agrees that metadata describing the accessibility of a resource is beneficial for a number of reasons, WCAG 2.0 does not require this information. There are many reasons we do not, including the fact that conformance claims are not always required, may not be available publicly and in some cases can not be made due to legal constraints.

Although we are not changing WCAG conformance, we recognize the value of what you request. Therefore, the WG hopes to provide WCAG 2.0 supplementary materials containing techniques for generating conformance claims as well as guidance about the various strategies for providing accessibility metadata that are available today.

This approach allows us to revise recommendations about accessibility metadata over time to adapt to changing technologies and recommendations related to generating and providing this information.
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LC-891 Emmanuelle Gutiérrez y Restrepo <coordina@sidar.org> on behalf of Sidar Foundation (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: substantive
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

The National Confederation of Deaf Persons of Spain (CNSE)have requested to us that we support to obtain an improvement in the accessibility for the deaf people.
Being conscious of the differences between the languages of signs worldwide and the lack of equivalence with the languages spoken in each country, we considered that some reasonable advances by means of the following changes could be included.

Proposed Change:

1.1.2 For prerecorded sound of spoken language provide sign language interpretation equivalent.
Guideline 1.1 requires "text" alternatives for non-text content. Sign language is not text. At some point in the future, if assistive technology is developed that can produce a sign language version of text content, then success criterion 1.1.1 will ensure that the text alternative for audio content is available. In addition, success criterion 3.1.5 includes a (future) technique on providing sign language versions of content ("Providing sign language versions of information, ideas, and processes that must be understood in order to use the content"). tocheck
LC-1489 Eric Hansen 1 <ehansen@ets.org> on behalf of Educational Testing Service (archived comment)
advisory[????] – [I believe the that the word is used. If so, needs definition.]
This term is used only in the introduction of the guidelines and while we also use the term to describe techniques, our use of the term is not unique to this document. We have made an effort not to include definitions that are used in their standard, dictionary-defined way. yes
LC-1491 Eric Hansen 1 <ehansen@ets.org> on behalf of Educational Testing Service (archived comment)
audio [Add this] What is the difference between audio and audio-only, or live audio-only
We have made an effort not to include definitions that are used in their standard, dictionary-defined way and do not feel that our use of the term "audio" "only" and "live" need additional clarification. So, per our policy we are not adding them to the glossary. They are also further discussed in the Understanding WCAG 2.0 document. yes
LC-1497 Eric Hansen 1 <ehansen@ets.org> on behalf of Educational Testing Service (archived comment)
information that is conveyed by color [alone?????!]
The success criterion that references this definition requires that any information conveyed by color is also visually evident without color. If we added the word 'alone' then the sentence becomes a catch-22. if it is also conveyed another way it can't be 'color alone'. If this were imperative (e.g. "if conveyed by color alone then add another way") we could use alone. But not in its current construction. yes
LC-742 Eric Hansen <ehansen@ets.org> on behalf of Educational Testing Service (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

1.3.2 Any information that is conveyed by color is also visually evident without color.

Presumably it could be evident by shape, size, location, etc…… This seems problematic, since what is visually evident depends so heavily on the person. For some, nothing is visually evident….!

Proposed Change:
The requirement to be visually evident is intended to benefit those who have trouble with certain color combinations, but who can perceive and interpret visual cues. However, for those who cannot perceive them, SC 1.3.1 (Info & Relationships) separately requires that the information be programatically determined. These two success criteria are intended to be complementary to each other. yes
LC-744 Eric Hansen <ehansen@ets.org> on behalf of Educational Testing Service (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: ED
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Recommends deleting \"does not preclude\" from :

Note: This does not preclude and should not discourage the support of other input methods (such as a mouse) in addition to keyboard operation.

Proposed Change:

Note: This should not discourage the support of other input methods (such as a mouse) in addition to keyboard operation.
The two statements are distinct. We believe it is better to make both statements clear. yes
LC-598 Geoff Freed <geoff_freed@wgbh.org> on behalf of WGBH National Center for Accessible Media (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Level 1 SC for Guideline 1.2 should also include live captioning. By assigning live captions to Level 2, the working group is designating this as less important than pre-produced captions. In fact, live captions are arguably more important than pre-produced captions-- consider the case of an emergency alert.

Proposed Change:

Move live captioning to Level 1.
The group considered this carefully. Part of the criteria for Level A is that it can reasonably be applied to all Web content. Unlike captioning for prerecorded video, live captioning can not be done by the author, but requires people with very specialized training and skills to transcribe in real time. tocheck
LC-599 Geoff Freed <geoff_freed@wgbh.org> on behalf of WGBH National Center for Accessible Media (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

A full multimedia transcript is not an alternative to audio description. (In fact, I doubt its usefulness in general.) Audio descriptions should be required at Level 1, period.

Proposed Change:

Delete the reference to a full multimedia transcript. Move 1.2.3 up to 1.2.2.
After much discussion, the group felt that a full transcript should be allowed as an alternative. A full transcript provides all the information from the multimedia (visual and auditory). That has been our measure for an accessible alternative. It does not provide the same experience, but text alternatives to graphics do not provide the same experience either. In addition, audio-description does not always provide all of the information that is presented visually. For example audio description may not provide all of the information in a training video which is almost all speaking over top of the visuals. In this case, a full text alternative (audio and visual) would give more information than just an audio description.

It was decided to allow the option to provide either audio description or a full text transcript at level A.
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LC-601 Geoff Freed <geoff_freed@wgbh.org> on behalf of WGBH National Center for Accessible Media (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Live audio descriptions must also be included in Level 1 SC for Guideline 1.2.

Proposed Change:

Insert a requirement for live audio descriptions into Level 1 SC for Guideline 1.2.
Unless live action is scripted, there is no way to know when the gaps will occur so that live audio description can be done (unless it is video footage which essentially has no audio dialog or, you are going to delay broadcast by some significant amount). tocheck
LC-602 Geoff Freed <geoff_freed@wgbh.org> on behalf of WGBH National Center for Accessible Media (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

It is unrealistic to ask authors to provide an alternative version of a Web site, or any other material, using language written at a lower reading level than the original material.

Proposed Change:

Delete requirement 3.1.5.
Providing an alternate version that is easier to read is one of the forms of supplemental content that satisfies SC 3.1.5, but is not required. This is also at Level AAA, so it may not be possible for all Web pages. tocheck
LC-1068 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
Spawned windows: As mentioned in a previous comment, the SC this maps to outlaws change in context when a user does something, but doesn't outlaw change in context without user initiation.

Proposed Change:

Create a new SC outlawing changes in context without user initiation at Level 1 (I am happy to write this)
The mapping has been removed from the WCAG document itself. The working group will work in coordination with the EOWG WCAG 2.0 Materials Support Task Force in the creation of transition materials and will consider these comments when the mapping is updated. We intend to add SC 2.2.1 to the mapping for WCAG 1.0 Checkpoint 10.1.

The working group believes that the ability for user agents and AT to suppress and/or notify users about pop-up windows, along with the four success criterion (3.2.1, 3.2.2 3.2.5 and 2.2.1) address the concerns about changes in context without user initiation. Because there is some functionality that cannot be supported without asynchronous changes of context, SC 3.2.5 is a level AAA success criterion.
yes
LC-909 Giorgio Brajnik <giorgio@dimi.uniud.it> on behalf of University of Udine, Italy (archived comment)
add the word “unambiguously�
We are trying to keep definitions as short as possible, while accurate and easy to understand. The working group believes that adding "unambiguously" would not change the meaning of the definition. If information can be determined by software, then it must be unambiguously determinable. tocheck
LC-535 Greg Gay <g.gay@utoronto.ca> on behalf of ATRC UofT (archived comment)
Item Number: Success Criterion 1.2.2
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

Guideline 1.2

Guidelines 1.2.2 and 1.2.3 are not mutually exclusive. Perhaps it should be, if an audio description is provided, compliance is at level 2. If a transcript is provided instead, compliance is at level 1.

1.2.2 "Audio descriptions of video, or... are provided for prerecorded multimedia."

1.2.3 "Audio descriptions of video are provided for prerecorded multimedia.

Proposed Change:

Drop "Audio descriptions of video" from 1.2.2. Audio description are relatively difficult to implement, while text transcripts are quite easy. Leave the transcript at level 1, which is attainable by everyone, and keep audio descriptions to level 2.
SC 1.2.2 and 1.2.3 are indeed not mutually exclusive. If they were, we couldn't have them both as success criteria. However, making the change you suggest would remove options for authors at level A. In some cases it is easier and/or more effective to provide the full text alternative. In other cases it is easier and/or more effective to provide the audio equivalents. The current wording allows the author to chose at level A, but does require them to use audio description at level AA. Audio description would of course satisfy both level A and AA if it were provided. Therefore removing Audio Description from level A would make it harder for authors, not easier since it removes an option. tocheck
LC-536 Greg Gay <g.gay@utoronto.ca> on behalf of ATRC UofT (archived comment)
Item Number: Success Criterion 1.2.7
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

Guidelines 1.2.2 and 1.2.7 are not mutually exclusive.

1.2.2 "... a full multimedia text alternative including any interaction, are provided for prerecorded multimedia."

1.2.7 "For prerecorded multimedia, a full multimedia text alternative including any interaction is provided

Proposed Change:

Drop 1.2.7 in favour 1.2.1 at level 1, with Audio descriptions removed in favor of keeping them with 1.2.3 at level 2.
Correct. SC 1.2.2 and 1.2.7 are not mutually exclusive. If they were we could not require both. The option is provided at Level A. At level AA Audio descriptions are required (which would also satisfy level A). At level AAA the text description is required, which would be in addition to the audio description required in level AA. The working group did not want to require SC 1.2.7 at level A but did want to have it as an option there and as a level AAA success criterion if it was not provided at level A. tocheck
LC-537 Greg Gay <g.gay@utoronto.ca> on behalf of ATRC UofT (archived comment)
Item Number: Success Criterion 1.4.1
Part of Item:
Comment Type: GE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

Guideline 1.4

Luminosity Contrast Ratio in its current form appears to be a less than perfect measure of contrast. For example black text on a white background is more readable than white text on a black background, yet both have the same ratio. In the future as the algorithms for measuring contrast become better, the suggested 5:1 ratio in 1.4.1, may no longer be valid.

Proposed Change:

A general statement should be made in the guideline, something like ...use foreground and background colours that provide sufficient contrast...", and move LCR and the suggested ratio to the techniques document, where it can be adjusted as measure of contrast become better defined.
The change you propose would make the success criteria untestable. All success criteria need to be testable to qualify. So we need to provide specific description of what 'sufficient contrast' is. tocheck
LC-538 Greg Gay <g.gay@utoronto.ca> on behalf of ATRC UofT (archived comment)
Item Number: Success Criterion 1.4.3
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

As suggested for 1.4.1, Luminosity Contrast Ratio in its current form appears to be a less than perfect measure of contrast. For example black text on a white background is more readable than white text on a black background, yet both have the same ratio. In the future as the algorithms for measuring contrast become better, the suggested 10:1 ratio in 1.4.1, may no longer be valid.

Proposed Change:

A general statement should be made in the guideline, something like ...use foreground and background colours that provide *high* contrast...", and move LCR and the suggested ratio to the techniques document, where it can be adjusted as measure of contrast become better defined.
The change you propose would make the success criteria untestable. All success criteria need to be testable to qualify. So we need to provide specific description of what 'sufficient contrast' is.

It is not always true that black text on a white background is more readable. For older people and people with impaired vision white on black is generally more readable because there is less light scatter (for media opacities) and fewer problems with adaptation levels.
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LC-540 Greg Gay <g.gay@utoronto.ca> on behalf of ATRC UofT (archived comment)
Item Number: Success Criterion 3.1.5
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

Though for public content, guideline 3.1.5 would apply, for non-public content, such as an online course aimed at a professional audience, there should be no requirement that it be "lower secondary" .

How will evaluators measure language level. Perhaps using a FOG index for English. How would they assess across languages, where a FOG index is not valid? Would lower secondary be too high when an audience is from a third word country, where reading levels tend to be much lower? There has to be some acknowledgement of the audience reading the content. I thought I had suggested in a previous review of a WCAG 2 draft, that audience be worked into the baseline, though I can't find the specific reference at the moment. I understand that would complicate things significantly. If not included in the baseline, there does need to be some way to define the acceptable level of language for the intended audience.

With regard to including the audience in a measure of readability, see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Readability

Proposed Change:

It might read something like "Where information is aimed at a non specific audience, for which reading level is unknown....use lower secondary..."
Even specific target audiences may contain people who can understand the subject matter but have disabilities that make it difficult to deal with complex text. While reducing the complexity of the text will help all such people, the success criterion only requires additional supplementary material that will assist some of those users.

We agree that all computerized readability programs have limitations, but they can be helpful in providing an easy check for whether the language used is clearly above or below the lower secondary level.

The working group has no solution to problems of differing literacy levels, except as this is reflected in the definition of lower secondary level for different cultures. Low literacy levels as a result of lack of education, rather than cognitive disabilities, is outside the charter of the working group.
yes
LC-712 Jaakko Vilen <jaakko.vilen@nordea.com> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

I am doing a thesis study on electronic banking accessibility, and have found that the link texts should be clearly descriptive alone. The links are practically the most important element of most pages, and this criterion should therefore be given priority level 1. In electronic banking applications the same applies especially to (submit) buttons.

Proposed Change:

The Success Criterion 2.4.5 should have priority level 1.
We assume that this comment pertains to SC 2.4.8, "The purpose of each link can be identified from the link.", rather than SC 2.4.6 (formerly SC 2.4.5, "Titles, headings, and labels are descriptive.").

SC 2.4.8 is at level AAA because of the potential usability problems introduced by requiring that the link text alone be sufficient. For instance, in a table of links, repeating the table header information in each cell makes the table much more difficult to use.

The basic requirement that assistive technology be able to determine the purpose of the link is covered by SC 2.4.4. This success criterion has been moved to level A.
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LC-820 Jack Pickard <webguy@thepickards.co.uk> on behalf of None to WAI (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

There is no requirement at any level for documents to be valid. I understand the need to make things technologically neutral but these are not mutually exclusive.
If there is no requirement for validity, what is to stop different browsers adding new elements and supporting them? We\'ll have an equivalent situation to the layer and ilayer elements as new browsers will add new elements they like, irrespective of the specification. As well as that, we\'ll see the return of previously deprecated elements such as font. The WAI has advocated good development standards for a long time. Now is not the time to change.

Proposed Change:

Add a new success criterion (probably a level 2 success criterion as it is a strengthening of the level 1), requiring that web units or authored components are produced according to the formal specification for the technology used.
The working group looked at this topic carefully over an extended period of time and concluded that requiring strict adherence to all aspects of specifications does not necessarily result in an increase in accessibility. For example, it is possible to create invalid pages that present no accessibility barriers. It is also possible in certain situations to enhance accessibility through the use of markup that is not part of the specification.

The working group must work within its charter and only include things that directly affected accessibility. Some aspects of "use technologies according to specification" and validity do relate to accessibility. However, others do not. So requiring validity would take us beyond our charter. We do recommend it though and it is our #1 technique listed for conforming to SC 4.1.1.
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LC-1446 JackP <throwaway@thepickards.co.uk> on behalf of None (archived comment)
Affiliation: None
Document: W2
Item Number: ensure-compat-parses
Part of Item:
Comment Type: technical
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):
Just a note that you asked for comments and from my own personal trawl of the archives, I found 19 separate comments related to validity/unambigous parsing. Of these, 18 of the comments desired returning to the \'validates\' criteria as used in WCAG 1 at either Level 1 or 2. That\'s almost 95% of the people making a comment wanting validity back.

(also see public posting on same:

http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200606/validity-those-taking-up-arms/

)

Proposed Change:
Re-include validity at level 2 as a strenghtening of SC 4.1.1.
The working group looked at this topic carefully over an extended period of time and concluded that requiring strict adherence to all aspects of specifications does not necessarily result in an increase in accessibility. For example, it is possible to create invalid pages that present no accessibility barriers. It is also possible in certain situations to enhance accessibility through the use of markup that is not part of the specification.

The working group must work within its charter and only include things that directly affected accessibility. Some aspects of "use technologies according to specification" and validity do relate to accessibility. However, others do not. So requiring validity would take us beyond our charter. We do recommend it though and it is our #1 technique listed for conforming to SC 4.1.1.
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LC-485 Jason White <jasonw@ariel.its.unimelb.edu.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

Sc 1.1.1: "If non-text content is pure decoration, or used only for visual formatting, or if it is not presented to users, is the above meant to apply to auditory content, e.g., sound efects or background sounds used only for aesthetic purposes and which is incidental to the meaning and functionality of the Web unit? In other words, can a sound be "pure decoration", or is the provision restricted to visual material? My own view is that it should apply irrespective of the modality of the "decoration", namely to auditory content as well as visual.

Proposed Change:

Perhaps add a parenthetical such as "pure decoration (whether auditory or visual)".
The 1.1.1 success criteria on decorative non-text content does not specify that it applies only to visual content. On the other hand the working group was unable to identify ways to mark audio so that AT could ignore it. Did you have something in mind? tocheck
LC-489 Jason White <jasonw@ariel.its.unimelb.edu.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: GE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

Terminology used in related technical specifications should be consistent, unless there are compelling reasons to the contrary. There are no strong reasons why basic terminology in WCAG 2.0 should differ from ATAG, UAAG and indeed WCAG 1.0.

Proposed Change:

Change "principles", "guidelines" and "success criteria", respectively, to "guidelines", "checkpoints" and "provisions" throughout WCAG 2.0 and supporting documentation.
The elements in WCAG 2.0 differ from those in the other documents. Using the same terms would be misleading. For example what you suggest we list as checkpoints are guidelines in this document. The success criteria would be the closest thing to checkpoints but they would be under checkpoints with the labeling you propose, so the things you must check off would not be the checkpoints but what was under them. Also, we have a checklist that is success criteria. To label the guidelines as checkpoints but have different things be in the checklist would be confusing. tocheck
LC-491 Jason White <jasonw@ariel.its.unimelb.edu.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

This criterion is specific to aspects of visual presentation. Suppose however that the content is written in VoiceXML or a comparable format designed to control auditory presentation. Surely the same requirement should apply, for the benefit for example of users who are deaf.

Proposed Change:

Generalize this criterion so that it is not modality-specific, i.e., not limited to visual presentation.
SC 1.3.3 (formerly 1.3.5) is intended to address issues where the ability to understand and operate content depends on the 2-dimensional spatial presentation which is only an issue for blind and visually-impaired users. We can reconsider if a specific example is provided that would be an issue for deaf users. tocheck
LC-493 Jason White <jasonw@ariel.its.unimelb.edu.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

Blinking is not a "time limit" on reading or interaction. Therefore, sc 2.2.2 does not belong under this guideline.

Proposed Change:

Move 2.2.2 to guideline 2.3, generalizing the wording of guideline 2.3 if necessary. Alternatively, move this criterion to its own guideline if photosensitivity is not the main rationale and if you don't want to expand guideline 2.3 to cover the issues addressed by this criterion.
Blinking does not fall within the frequency range that causes seizures and is therefore not appropriate under guideline 2.3. That's why the working group added the note referring to guideline 2.3 to this success criteria. Blinking is a timeout issue though if users are unable to read blinking text or images of text or to comprehend blinking images before they change. tocheck
LC-506 Jason White <jasonw@ariel.its.unimelb.edu.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

As proposed by Charles McCathieNevile in commenting on the November 2005 working draft, the term "textual interface" should be used instead of "keyboard interface". Some software interfaces do not accept keystroke input directly, but instead receive character input; they are not "keyboard interfaces" as defined in the glossary.

Proposed Change:

Substitute "textual interface" for "keyboard interface", and define "textual interface" as an interface used by software to receive characters or keystroke input. Under this definition, keystroke input is included; thus compatibility with a keyboard interface would satisfy the success criterion, as would compatibility with any software mechanism capable of receiving character input, whether from a keyboard or any other kind of input device.
This was discussed on January 12 teleconference and it was decided then to keep the current phrasing. The rationale is as follows:

The term keyboard interface here is use to refer to the API that the user agent uses to get its keystrokes from. The keystrokes include up and down arrows, function keys, and other keystrokes that are not text. The reason we use the phrase is to cover keyboard emulators (such as mouse or pen keyboards) and devices that don't have native keyboards (pda's) but accept them as accessories (via their keyboard interface). This language also matches a number of other accessibility standards and is better for harmonization.

Note also that definition of Keyboard Interface now reads:

keyboard interface
interface used by software to obtain keystroke input

Note 1: Allows users to provide keystroke input to programs even if the native technology does not contain a keyboard.

Example: A touch screen PDA has a keyboard interface built into its operating system as well as a connector for external keyboards. Applications on the PDA can use the interface to obtain keyboard input either from an external keyboard or from other applications that provide simulated keyboard output, such as handwriting interpreters or speech to text applications with "keyboard emulation" functionality.

Note 2: Operation of the application (or parts of the application) through a keyboard operated mouse emulator, such as MouseKeys, does not qualify as operation through a keyboard interface because operation of the program is through its pointing device interface - not through its keyboard interface.
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LC-513 Jason White <jasonw@ariel.its.unimelb.edu.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

This guideline doesn't require the use of technologies, for example markup languages, in accordance with the semantics defined in specifications. Assistive technologies such as braille translators, as well as content transformation tools, rely upon the assumption that elements and attributes of markup languages are used to convey the meanings prescribed in specifications. To the extent that content departs from this requirement, programmatic determination of structural and other aspects of content is precluded, being reduced instead to a probabilistic matter requiring heuristics to be introduced by the software developer. Although the definition of "programmatically determined" refers to support by user agents, it doesn't explicitly refer to standards governing the technologies used in the content.

Proposed Change:

Add a requirement under this guideline to the effect that, for each technology in the baseline that is defined in a specification, every feature of the technology is used in conformity with the meaning and purpose prescribed in the specification. Even better, require it to be used in accordance with the meaning, purpose and syntax prescribed in the specification. Alternatively, if the above is too strong a requirement, restrict it at level 1 to every feature used to enable the structure, purpose or meaning of the content to be programmatically determined. That is, if the feature is used to enable programmatic determination for purposes of meeting the guidelines, then it must be used in accordance with the syntax and semantics defined in the specification governing the technology. This falls short of a requirement of full syntactic and semantic correctness, but the stronger requirement could be added at level 2 or level 3.
The working group looked at this topic carefully over an extended period of time and concluded that requiring strict adherence to all aspects of specifications does not necessarily result in an increase in accessibility. For example, it is possible to create invalid pages that present no accessibility barriers. It is also possible in certain situations to enhance accessibility through the use of markup that is not part of the specification.

The working group must work within its charter and only include things that directly affected accessibility. Some aspects of "use technologies according to specification" and validity do relate to accessibility. However, others do not. So requiring validity would take us beyond our charter. We do recommend it though and it is our #1 technique listed for conforming to SC 4.1.1.
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LC-584 Jason White <jasonw@ariel.its.unimelb.edu.au> on behalf of none (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Some people use the word \"diagram\" to refer only to charts, schematics and
other drawn illustrations, excluding such graphics as photographs.

If this criterion is not meant to be so restricted, it would be better to use
\"graphics\". If a restriction is meant, \"diagram\" should be defined in the
glossary.

Proposed Change:

\"text or graphics\", or add a definition of \"diagram\" (see above).
SC 1.4.3 (formerly 1.4.1) has been changed only to address text content:

"Text and images of text have a contrast ratio of at least 5:1 with their background. Text or images of text may have a contrast ratio of at least 3:1 where all of the following are true:

* Text is at least twice the height of the body text; and
* the text has a stem width of at least three times the stem width of the body text; and
* the text is presented over a non-patterned background.

Note: This requirement does not apply to text or images of text that are pure decoration."
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LC-585 Jason White <jasonw@ariel.its.unimelb.edu.au> on behalf of none (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Same as 1.4.1 re \"diagrams\".

Proposed Change:
SC 1.4.5 (formerly 1.4.3) has been changed only to address text content:

"Text and images of text have a contrast ratio of at least 10:1 with their background. Text or images of text may have a contrast ratio of at least 7:1 where all of the following are true:

* Text is at least twice the height of the body text; and
* the text has a stem width of at least three times the stem width of the body text; and
* the text is presented over a non-patterned background.

Note: This requirement does not apply to text or images of text that are pure decoration."
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LC-759 Jessica Enders <jessicae@hiser.com.au> on behalf of The Hiser Group (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

This criterion states that \"when text requires reading ability more advanced than the lower secondary education level, supplemental content is available that does not require reading ability more advanced than the lower secondary education level.\" I don\'t see why this need apply when the content uses a controlled vocabulary and has a very specific target audience. For example, on a medical website used only by surgeons and describing new surgical research, why does there need to be a version of this text that someone at the lower secondary education level can understand? Certainly have diagrams etc to aid comprehension is important, for all users, but this may not be possible in many cases.

Proposed Change:

Modified criterion to allow specific exception for web content with specific target audiences utilising a widely accepted controlled vocabulary.
Even specific target audiences may contain people who can understand the subject matter but have disabilities that make it difficult to deal with complex text. While reducing the complexity of the text will help all such people, the success criterion only requires additional supplementary material that will assist some of those users. yes
LC-587 Jim Thatcher <jim@jimthatcher.com> on behalf of JimThatcher.com (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

I am doing final copy editing of a book chapter on forms.

I had talked about how clear the January version of WCAG20 was about forms:

SC 4.1.3 The label of each user interface control in the Web content that accepts input from the user can be programmatically determined and is explicitly associated with the control.

But now that has apparently been replaced by:

SC 4.1.2 For all user interface components, the name and role can be programmatically determined, values that can be set by the user can be programmatically set, and notification of changes to these items is available to user agents, including assistive technologies.

The problem is that 4.1.2 is absolutely inadequate. The \"Role\" of text input field is \"text input\"; the name could be \"keyinput\". 4.1.2 is basic software accessibility - leaving to the AT the process of figuring out what the prompt (label) is.

I just talked with John (who sounds terrific) and he pointed out that -

1.3.1 Information and relationships conveyed through presentation can be programmatically determined, and notification of changes to these is available to user agents, including assistive technologies.

Served the same purpose as 4.1.3 - I agree. But it is abstract. It requires interpretation.

With the Last Call version of WCAG 2.0 there is no success criterion that specifically addresses labeling forms and I think that is a very serious mistake.



Proposed Change:

Please reinstate 4.1.3.
The WG feels this requirement is properly covered under 4.1.2 and did not wish to reinstate a SC that would be redundant with that. However, we agree that it's difficult for users to understand that form labeling is part of 4.1.2. We have added a failure and an advisory technique to SC 1.3.1 and 4.1.2:

F68: Failure of 1.3.1 and 1.4.2 due to the association of label and user interface controls not being programmatically determinable

Providing labels for text input or item selection form controls (future link)
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LC-850 Joe Clark 2 <joeclark@joeclark.org> (archived comment)
From http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0119.html

text alternative
programmatically-determined text that is used in place of non-text content, or text that is used in addition to non-text content and referred to from the programmatically-determined text

Hence a title attribute absolutely is a text equivalent. An image with empty alt plus a title containing what would otherwise be the alt text will pass WCAG 2. (There is some overlap here with UAAG, which can be interpreted to allow presentation of title text instead of regular or alt text.)
The use of title alone (with empty alt text) would not constitute alternate text and would not be sufficient for use as a text alternative. If the alt attribute were empty, it would be stating that the image was decorative and did not need alternate text.

Speaking Technically, programmatically determined means that it is supported by assistive technology. A null alt attribute value is an indication to assistive technology that it should be ignored. Since a title attribute would not be presented by assistive technology if the alt text were empty, it would not be programmatically determined text.
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LC-852 Joe Clark 2 <joeclark@joeclark.org> (archived comment)
From http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0119.html

variations in presentations of text
changes in the visual appearance or sound of the text, such as changing to a different font or a different voice

Web authors now have to worry about sound of text? How, exactly? We don't control people's screen readers. (Does this mean we have to find a way to mark up intonation and prosody in our podcasts? How, exactly?)
SC 1.3.4 has been folded into SC 1.3.1, in order to clarify that text variations are one of many types of design that must be semantically identified. SC 1.3.2 is thus more clearly specifically about the non-semantic aspect of the visual design specific to color. As a result, the definition has been removed from the document. tocheck
LC-854 Joe Clark 2 <joeclark@joeclark.org> (archived comment)
From http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0119.html

WCAG 2 violates WCAG 1 by listing an equation (for brightness as used in the [9]general flash threshold) as plain text. In so doing it pointlessly explains that ""the ^ character is the exponentiation operator."" I thought this kind of thing is what we had MathML for.
Because support for MathML varies across browsers and platforms, because the information from the equations can be mis-presented in some cases, and because it was possible to represent the luminosity contrast ratio in ASCII, a MathML version of the equations was not included in the guidelines themselves. We have, however, added a note to the definition which points to a MathML version. Should support for MathML change prior to publication, we will include this version in the guidelines themselves. tocheck
LC-859 Joe Clark 2 <joeclark@joeclark.org> (archived comment)
From http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0119.html

Again after many unheeded warnings, the Working Group published the following guideline for multimedia (at the highest level):

Sign-language interpretation is provided for multimedia.

First of all, which sign language? For an English-language source, no fewer than five distinct, if not always mutually unintelligible, sign languages can be identified (American, British, Irish, Australian, New Zealand).

More importantly, WCAG now requires translating a document (a multimedia file) into another language as a claimed accessibility provision. To restate the same question I have been posing for years, what prevents a Ukrainian-speaker from demanding that a Web site be translated into Ukrainian? After all, in both cases the issue is the incomprehensibility of the language of the original, not the disability. (A deaf person is not necessarily unable to read. Deaf people can and do understand and communicate in written language. A reliance on sign language, or even a preference for it, does not logically follow from being deaf.)
This is a level AAA success criterion and is provided for those who want to make their pages particularly accessible to people who are deaf and for whom a written form of the spoken language is hard for them to read. The success criterion does not assume that all individuals who are deaf have trouble with written language but acknowledges that some do. The specific type of sign language is not specified and is therefore up to the author. tocheck
LC-863 Joe Clark 2 <joeclark@joeclark.org> (archived comment)
From http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0119.html

WCAG 2 is nearly consistent in pretending that Web standards do not exist (with one curious exception that I'll get to shortly). Some teenagers have greater understanding of valid, semantic markup than the Working Group does, as evinced in passages like these:

Information that is conveyed by variations in presentation of text is also conveyed in text, or the variations in presentation of text can be programmatically determined.

Now, what does ""presentation"" mean? Really?

Doesn't the requirement to convey the information in text make it possible to write instructions for an online form as follows?

* Fields marked in red are required.
* Fields marked in green are optional but recommended.

I have just ""conveyed"" the colour differences. (It so happens that the colours are exactly the rare ones that are confusable to colourblind people.)

If I am using markup to vary presentation of text, as one typically will (how else do you do it if you aren't using a picture of text?), how is that markup ever not programmatically determinable? The browser had to read it to vary the presentation in the first place. All the usual elements, like em, strong, b, i, and u, are understandable by a machine. So is CSS, even at the simple level used in this document as a demonstration (span class=""red"" or =""green""). More complex CSS selectors, like :last-child, are also programmatically determinable.

In essence, for any author using markup, even lousy presentational markup, how is it possible to flunk this criterion?
SC 1.3.1 and 1.3.4 have been combined to read "Information and relationships conveyed through presentation can be programmatically determined or are available in text, and notification of changes to these is available to user agents, including assistive technologies." This wording is similar to the wording of SC 1.3.4 at the time of the comment, but the success criterion is clear that it is the _information_ conveyed by variations in presentation that must be conveyed, not the _fact_ that such information exists as the example in the comment suggests. The How to Meet document for the combined Success Criterion has been expanded to make this clearer. tocheck
LC-864 Joe Clark 2 <joeclark@joeclark.org> (archived comment)
From http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0119.html

Some parts of Web accessibility are not under the control of the author. The user agent, like a browser or screen reader (the latter of which is definitely included in WCAG 2's definition of ""user agent""), has a significant role to play. Nonetheless, WCAG lists these requirements:

More than one way is available to locate content within a set of Web units where content is not the result of, or a step in, a process or task.

Why can't people be expected to simpy use the Find command in their browsers, or the back button?

The same issue reappears in that classic bugbear of Web-accessibility pedants, hyperlinks:

Each link is programmatically associated with text from which its purpose can be determined. [...] The purpose of each link can be programmatically determined from the link.

""Purpose""? Doesn't Slashdot have an enormous mass of code in its system to prevent people from linking to notorious vulgar images in the guise of a real hyperlink? (There the ""purpose"" is to deceive.) The ""purpose"" of a link is to provide a link, obviously.

Did they not mean the ""destination"" of a link? If so, how is it not obvious from the semantics of the link? Isn't it embedded right in the a href=""""? How is it impossible to ""determine"" the destination of a link? That's the user agent's job, is it not?

Incidentally, there have been a few experimental all-sign-language sites in which many links and their targets are given completely in sign language. There is no link text per se. What's between <a> and </a> is a video file or image of a person using sign language, and where you end up is another such video file or image (or a page full of those). Given the semantics of all markup systems in use on today's Web, the hyperlink has to contain text characters in order to function. A still image has to contain an alt text (though alt="""" is plausible in some cases).

Nonetheless, there are a few scenarios in which a page intended to be accessible to sign-language speakers uses no text at all. How is such usage accommodated in WCAG 2? (And must authors, by implication, use an interpreter to voice the sign language for blind visitors, which must then of course be captioned or transcribed? Where does it end?)
SC 2.4.2 is about locating content in a set of pages, not on a single page, so reliance on a UA Find command is not sufficient to address the concern. RE Back button, it is not clear how a back button helps you to navigate except to go back to the previous page.

The use of the term “purpose� is intentional as SC 2.4.4 is a requirement to convey meaning. Destinations, in the form of URLs, are not meaningful for many people.

The usage of video-only media, including sign-language, is permitted by WCAG 2.0. Per SC 1.1.1 a text alternative would be required. Assuming each sign video conveys information, but is not otherwise interactive, a text transcript (or longdesc) would be required to satisfy SC 1.1.1. There is no implication that an interpreter is required or that non-text content needs to be voiced. Only text alternatives are required for non-text content (SC 1.1.1). And there is no provision in WCAG that text alternatives need to have alternatives etc.
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LC-867 Joe Clark 2 <joeclark@joeclark.org> (archived comment)
I argued with the Working Group for months over the concept of semantics in markup, that is, the use of the correct element for the content. This argument betrayed the Group's arrogance and its thorough incomptence at standards-compliant Web authoring. It also proved they've been asleep at the wheel for the last eight years, in which people like me have been labouring to improve Web standards. This nonsense alone is enough to generate suspicion and distrust among competent and up-to-date Web developers.

Nonetheless, now the word ""semantics"" is included, without elaboration or definition, in the Understanding and Techniques documents (whose examples I am condensing into one excerpt below). Occasionally, the term is recast as ""structure.""

From http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0119.html

1. A simple text document is formatted with double blank lines before titles, asterisks to indicate list items and other standard formatting conventions so that its structure can be programmatically determined.
2. HTML Techniques for Marking Text [...] [11]Using semantic markup to mark emphasized or special text
3. Making information and relationships conveyed through presentation programmatically determinable USING the technology-specific techniques below (for a technology in your baseline) [...] [12]Using semantic elements to mark up structure [...] The semantics of some elements define whether or not their content is a meaningful sequence. For instance, in HTML, text is always a meaningful sequence. Tables and ordered lists are meaningful sequences, but unordered lists are not.
4. CSS Techniques [...] [13]Positioning content based on structural markup

The WCAG main document does a drive-by and just barely avoids mentioning semantics by name:

[INS: [Content] :INS] includes the code and markup that define the structure, presentation, and interaction, as well as text, images, and sounds that convey information to the end-user.

This means your markup is also your content, which will come as a surprise to those who are interested in separation of content, structure, presentation, and behaviour. Here, ""markup that define the structure, presentation, and interaction"" clearly refers to semantics.
The principle is "separate information and structure from presentation."

.title {text-size: 200%}
is presentational and resides separately on the style sheet

The markup in the content is <h1 class="title">.
This is certainly part of the content. It has meaning. The presentation features (i.e. text-size of 200%) of that title class are on a separate stylesheet. Some markup is absolutely necessary as part of the content. Otherwise we could not identfy anything as a heading or a paragraph. We do not believe we have broken the principle of "separate presentation from content".

The definition of "content" has been revised. It now is defined as, "information and sensory experience to be communicated to the user by means of a user agent, as well as code or markup that define the structure, presentation, and interactions associated with those elements"

Information and structure should be separated from presentation, and the techniques etc all flow from this. We are careful only to use the word 'semantic' in its 'semantic markup' form since there has been so much misunderstanding around the multiple definitions of semantic.
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LC-760 Jon Gunderson <jongund@uiuc.edu> on behalf of University of Illinois (archived comment)
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Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

This should be success criteria 1 like in the Priority 1 WCAG 1.0 requirement. It is impossible for people using speech to guess at language changes. We have a lot of web based foriegn language courses at UIUC and we have identified that speech users cannot determine when to manually switch their synthesizer languages, even when they know that there are more than one language on the resource. If changes in language are available modern screen readers will automatically switch the lanaguge of the synthesizer.

Proposed Change:

Move this requirement to Success Criteria 1
There were comments to combine 3.1.1 and 3.1.2, to move them up and to move them down. After much discussion, the consensus of the working group was to leave them in the current positions. tocheck
LC-1306 Jonathan Worent <jworent@yahoo.com> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: substantive
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

I know this has been brought up before. I am in agreement that validity needs to be a requirement at level 2.

Proposed Change:

Put \"Create documents that validate to published formal grammars\" in as a level 2 requirement.
The working group looked at this topic carefully over an extended period of time and concluded that requiring strict adherence to all aspects of specifications does not necessarily result in an increase in accessibility. For example, it is possible to create invalid pages that present no accessibility barriers. It is also possible in certain situations to enhance accessibility through the use of markup that is not part of the specification.

The working group must work within its charter and only include things that directly affected accessibility. Some aspects of "use technologies according to specification" and validity do relate to accessibility. However, others do not. So requiring validity would take us beyond our charter. We do recommend it though and it is our #1 technique listed for conforming to SC 4.1.1.
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LC-837 Kazunori MINATANI <minatani@debian.or.jp> on behalf of Science and Technology research Laboratories, Japan Broadcast Corporation (archived comment)
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Comment Type: substantive
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Conformance claims are complicated definitions. They are human understandable however user will not make good use of them. And they are not machine understandable because their definition and format are not provided strictly.

Proposed Change:

Describing format of Conformance claims should be
determined strictly. If Conformance claims are understandable for a User Agent
(whether achieve a baseline or not), it is possible to cope with
that contents.
Conformance to WCAG neither requires or prohibits the use of specific formats for describing conformance. The working group expects to provide informative information describing a variety of strategies for documenting conformance in cooperation with the education and outreach working group in the future. tocheck
LC-1239 Kiyochika Nakamura <nakamura-kiyochika@mitsue.co.jp> on behalf of Mitsue-Links Co., Ltd. (archived comment)
Comment: The term, "parsed unambiguously," or "parsed into only one data structure" is not good enough to comply with the principle 4. The principle states that "content should be robust enough to work with current and future user agents." Then, if web units or authored components are well-formed but include information not based on chosen technologies, can we guarantee that this information is conveyed? Therefore, I believe if forward compatibility is important, "conforming to specifications" would be better than "parsed unambiguously."

Proposed Change:

Using the phrase "conforming to specifications" instead of the phrase "parsed unambiguously."
The working group looked at this topic carefully over an extended period of time and concluded that requiring strict adherence to all aspects of specifications does not necessarily result in an increase in accessibility. For example, it is possible to create invalid pages that present no accessibility barriers. It is also possible in certain situations to enhance accessibility through the use of markup that is not part of the specification.

The working group must work within its charter and only include things that directly affected accessibility. Some aspects of "use technologies according to specification" and validity do relate to accessibility. However, others do not. So requiring validity would take us beyond our charter. We do recommend it though and it is our #1 technique listed for conforming to SC 4.1.1.
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LC-799 Liddy Nevile <liddy@sunriseresearch.org> on behalf of La Trobe University et al (archived comment)
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Comment Type: GE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

I do not have a specific change but am very concerned that it is understood and part of WCAG 2.0 that all resources should carry or refer to a description of their accessibility characteristics. Without such a description, the best resources will not be found and useful in some cases and in others, a resource that is not universally accessible will not be made available to someone who could use it even if others cannot.

Proposed Change:

I propose that the description of the resource be included as a requirement for the \'accessibility\' of the resource in order to make it accessible to those who can use it.
While the working group agrees that metadata describing the accessibility of a resource is beneficial for a number of reasons, requirements to include this information have not been included in WCAG 2.0. There are many reasons we do not require this including the fact that conformance claims are not always required, may not be available publicly and in some cases can not be made at all due to legal constraints.

Although we are not changing WCAG conformance, we recognize the value of what you request. Therefore, the WG plans to provide techniques for generating conformance claims as well as guidance about the various strategies for providing accessibility metadata that are available today in various WCAG 2.0 supplemantary materials.

This approach allows us to revise recommendations about accessibility metadata over time to adapt to changing technologies and recommendations related to generating and providing this information.
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LC-634 Lisa Seeman 1 <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of Invited expert at W3C, UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0137.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/att-0137/wcagform_ch_1html.html

Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

With new technology such as roles within the WAI, you can assign the role of the object in a programmatically understandable way. So if assistive technology knows the role of a picture is as a bullet, or to say that a star means it is required, or that spacer.gif is for spacing - why do you have to also fill in the alt tag?

Proposed Change:

Add to the list of options: The role and behavior of non-text content can be programmatically determined
While defining roles is an important new enabler of accessibility, it should not be used as a replacement for the predefined semantics in HTML. Images should always have alternative text, and semantic elements used whenever possible. Roles should be used to supplement semantics when those semantics are inadequately provided by the host language. tocheck
LC-635 Lisa Seeman 1 <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of Invited expert at W3C, UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0137.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/att-0137/wcagform_ch_1html.html

Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

With new technology such as roles within the WAI, you can assign the role of the object in a programmatically understandable way. Also you can use RDF, xfroms etc to similar affect.

Proposed Change:

1.3.2 Any information that is conveyed by color can be programmatically determined or is also visually evident without color
Information conveyed through variations in the presentation must be programmatically determinable in order to conform to SC 1.3.1. Since color is a variation in presentation, any information conveyed by variations in color must be programmatically determinable. Thus a change to SC 1.3.2 is not needed. tocheck
LC-639 Lisa Seeman 1 <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of Invited expert at W3C, UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0137.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/att-0137/wcagform_ch_1html.html

Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

1.3.1 Information and relationships conveyed through presentation can be programmatically determined, and notification of changes to these is available to user agents, including assistive technologies...and

Missing hear is you need to encapsulation of the functions and behavours of each element is essential

Proposed Change:

Add at level one
The functions and behavours of each element that can be visual Perceived can be programmatically identified thought its life cycle.
This is addressed by Success Criterion 4.1.2, which requires that relevant properties can be programatically determined and that updates be available to AT, which ensures it will be current throughout the life cycle. tocheck
LC-641 Lisa Seeman 1 <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of Invited expert at W3C, UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0137.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/att-0137/wcagform_ch_1html.html

Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

With RDF, XHTML roles etc, time outs can now be programmatically determined

Proposed Change:

add to the bulleted list in 2.2.1 Success criteria
The role of time outs and updated regions can be programmatically determined
The working group recognizes that with the addition of an appropriate role and states, an assistive technology could recognize time-outs within the content. With that knowledge, the assistive technology could take the appropriate action to allow the user to modify the time-out. While this could be true for assistive technologies, there is no checkpoint in the User Agent Accessibility guidelines that requires a user agent to recognize and modify time-outs. Thus, even if the time-out could be programmatically determined, there is no requirement for user agents to respect this information. Thus, someone using a "standard" user agent and not an assistive technology could encounter a time-out which could not be modified. For this reason, the working group has decided not to add your suggested bullet, "The role of time outs and updated regions can be programmatically determined" to the success criterion 2.2.1. If testing revealed that adding the role information was supported by an appropriate assistive technology to modify time-outs, success criterion 2.2.1 would be satisfied. When an assistive technology exists that supports this level of programmatic information we will add an additional sufficient technique. tocheck
LC-642 Lisa Seeman 1 <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of Invited expert at W3C, UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0137.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/att-0137/wcagform_ch_1html.html

Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

With RDF, XHTML roles etc, time outs can now be programmatically determined

Proposed Change:

does the wording cover this, if not add to the wording of 2.2.3 and 2.2.2 Success criteria

...Unless the role of time outs and updated regions can be programmatically determined
The working group recognizes that with the addition of an appropriate role and states, an assistive technology could recognize that particular content was time dependent. With that knowledge, the assistive technology could take the appropriate action to allow the user to pause the content or change the frequency of the update or movement. While this could be true for assistive technologies, there is no checkpoint in the User Agent Accessibility guidelines that requires a user agent to recognize and pause content. Thus, even if the time dependent content could be programmatically determined, there is no requirement for user agents to respect this information. Thus, someone using a "standard" user agent and not an assistive technology could encounter content which could not be paused. For this reason, the working group has decided not to add your suggested clause, "Unless the role of time outs and updated regions can be programmatically determined" to the success criteria 2.2.2 and 2.2.3. If testing revealed that adding the role information was supported by an appropriate assistive technology to pause content, success criteria 2.2.2 and 2.2.3 would be satisfied. When an assistive technology exists that supports this level of programmatic information we will add an additional sufficient technique. tocheck
LC-624 Lisa Seeman 2 <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of Invited expert at W3C, UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0137.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/att-0137/wcagform_ch2_.html

Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Interfaces become inoperable when one of the following brake:

1. Each element or widget is marked with full and corrected semantics that fully describes it's behavior Note this is more then information and structure can be separated from presentation .This includes creating enabled javascripted widgets that the Assistive Technology does not know what it is, what states are supported and how it maps to the operating system API. If non exists (like a tree item that can expand to a sub tree when you click on it) Then you may need to add a technology, such as xforms, XHTML 2 Roles

2. The relationships between elements and groups are known. Again, this is more then I see supported by navigation Success criteria. What form element controls what AJAX operated section is a good example of a relationship

3. States, properties, and relationships are valid for each elements behavior and are accessible via the DOM. For example if clicking on a tree item makes it expand or collapses, then it's state (such as expanded) needs to be accessible via the Document Object module Via an attribute that can be understood by assistive technology..

4. There is an element having the correct input focus. This is different to just being keyboard navigatable

Proposed Change:

Add success criteria at level 1 along the lines of:

1, The supported behavior of each element and widget can be programaticaly determined.

2, The relationships between elements and groups of elements can be programaticaly determined.

3, States, properties, and relationships are valid for each elements behavior can be programaticaly determined.

4, There is consistently an element having the correct input focus.
The working group believes that your concerns for additional level A success criteria have already been met with existing criteria. Success criterion 4.1.2 covers the supported behavior of each element and the states, properties and relationships of elements and requires that they be programmatically determinable. The relationships between elements are covered by success criterion 1.3.1. Both of these are level A success criterion. For example, the pressed state of buttons is not currently exposed by user agents to assistive technology. In addition, the lack of states and relationships does not block accessibility today and the current success criteria do not block future technology which provides additional role, state, and relationship information.

We also do not believe that there should be a requirement for always maintaining an element with input focus. For the bulk of content the current focus mechanism is sufficient and allows page scrolling with arrows and change of focus into the user agent address bar with no interaction from the Web content author.
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LC-629 Lisa Seeman 2 <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of Invited expert at W3C, UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0137.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/att-0137/wcagform_ch2_.html

Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

In the roles specification we now have a range widget, which means you can state, in a programaticaly determined way what the max and min values are.

That means that AT can give users the message any way they want - including text, if they want. Surly this is better then requiring text

we also have in the adaptable states and properties module a required attribute, (for situation B in the "how to understand this checkpoint)

Note this is all part of the WAI, and screen readers are working to support it today...

Proposed Change:

change 2.5.1 to: If an input error is detected, the nature of the error can be programaticaly determined or identified and described to the user in text.
This success criterion does not prevent the use of programmatic information which can be used by AT or the user agent to identify and provide error information. There must be some mechanism to provide the error information to the user with all technologies in use today and the requirement for text guarantees that. Even when provided by the AT or user agent rather than the content author, the information can still be conveyed in some form of text to meet this requirement. Thus, we don't see the requirement for text as being too restrictive. tocheck
LC-631 Lisa Seeman 2 <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of Invited expert at W3C, UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0137.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/att-0137/wcagform_ch2_.html

Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

With things like role attribute you can assign a functional role to an element, and other important information such as allowable range. That means that the assistive technology can themselves perform validation. We should also work on identifying critical tasks.

Hence one of the list should be (for future proofing) the role of all information and it's critical nature can be progmaticly determined

Proposed Change:

1. Actions are reversible.
2. Actions are checked for input errors before going on to the next step in the process.
3. The user is able to review and confirm or correct information before submitting it.
4. The role of each control and it's critical nature can be progmaticly determined.
This success criterion is addressing the problem of users making irreversible mistakes in the otherwise valid values provided or actions taken. Indicating that a control is critical is not sufficient to satisfy this success criterion. The user must still be given the opportunity to avoid unrecoverable errors. tocheck
LC-607 Lisa Seeman 3 <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of Invited expert at W3C, UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0137.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/att-0137/wcagform3ch.html

Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

I am concerned that level 1 SC will act against automatic help and combined with information hiding. For example when information is hidden unless you focus on the element in question, and then all the sub information about it is given.

If you do not hide the information then the page becomes busy and you can not see what the main points are. If the user has a two strep process to access the information, then they may never receive it.

As with many SC, they are OK if you read the definition, but if you just read the text it is misleading.

Proposed Change:

change the term "change of context" to "confusing change in context"
the definition can remain the same
The term "confusing" is subjective and would not be testable.

Because keyboard users must often move focus through other controls to navigate to the control of interest, it is particularly important that just setting focus to a control does not have side effects. Although changes of content such as your example are not changes of context, and hence would not violate this success criterion.
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LC-610 Lisa Seeman 3 <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of Invited expert at W3C, UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0137.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/att-0137/wcagform3ch.html

Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

Terms in the document often seem to mean something a bit different, until you read the definitions. As WCAG is often quoted the terms themselves should be as close to clear language as the can be without viewing the definitions.

Proposed Change:

change the term "programticly determined", to "supported by Assistive technology".
We have struggled to make the concept of "programmatically determined" and other terms used in the document as clear as possible. Unfortunately, "supported by assistive technology" captures only part of the meaning of programmatically determined. The author must also have provided the data in a form that makes information and relationships clear by using appropriate markup within the technology.

Note that the definition of programmatically determined has been amended to say "including assistive technology."
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LC-622 Lisa Seeman 4 <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of Invited expert at W3C, UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0137.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/att-0137/wcagform4ch.html

Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

The primary natural language is identified.
Why is this level 1? I have not seen an assistive technology and user not work at all because the language attribute is missing. this seems to be level 3

Proposed Change:

move to level 3
There were comments to combine 3.1.1 and 3.1.2, to move them up and to move them down. After much discussion, the consensus of the working group was to leave them in the current positions. tocheck
LC-623 Lisa Seeman 4 <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of Invited expert at W3C, UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0137.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/att-0137/wcagform4ch.html

Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

changes in natural language is identified:
Is WCAG awere that this is huge amount of work? for lots of content this would be more work then the rest of WCAG put together (all the has English in for web site names and odd words..). On the other hand it seems typically understandable by the user as is, and not so important for the user..

Proposed Change:

move SC 3.2 to level 3
There were comments to combine 3.1.1 and 3.1.2, to move them up and to move them down. After much discussion, the consensus of the working group was to leave them in the current positions. tocheck
LC-865 Lisa Seeman <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006Jun/0130.html

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Comment Type: substantive
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

text equivalents for struggling students and people with LD are often of a very different natures to the SC described.
They would typically not have all included text, point out the key detail that someone is needs to understand
Alt tags are often verbose, such as explaining or giving a sentence of context to a diagram. We often have multiple prodnotes (using HTMl with Daisy XML as a base) for a single picture often linked to different regions

descriptive alt tags would be omitted – the would just confuse the user who we are trying to help identify key content and concepts.

Would such a page be conformant?

note there are many more people with these needs then who are blind. And blind users are getting all the key information anyway.
Also note:
Alt tags and prodnotes are a great way to put info in a page for LD without changing the genral use

Proposed Change:

creat an alternive SC set for pages for people with LD.
WCAG is a set of guidelines for general use pages. WCAG 2.0 has been written assuming that authors can produce a single version of the content that could be made accessible to everyone, although assistive technology may be needed to transform the content into an appropriate rendering. Because of the danger of excluding people with multiple disabilities, the working group has been reluctant to require multiple versions of content targeted to different audiences. We are also concerned about the privacy issues involved in requiring people to self declare disabilities in order to get suitably tailored output. The guidelines permit alternate versions of Web pages, but do not require them.

We agree that there should be an activity that focuses on how to create pages just for people with learning disabilities. That is beyond the scope of WCAG itself. But we hope that related activities can develop techniques for content designed specifically for people with different cognitive, learning, and language disabilities. This would be important to determining whether we can achieve a single version of content that is accessible to all, or whether multiple versions of content would be needed.
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LC-944 M.F. Laughton <adio@crc.ca> on behalf of Government of Canada (archived comment)
The purpose of each link can be programmatically determined from the link. "Meaningful" link text is no longer a high priority: it should be. Navigating via links benefits a large number of users including those using keyboard access, voice rec, alternate input and screen reading technology. It remains in many cases the only means that many users can navigate content in an efficient and useful manner.

Proposed Change:

Should be a level 2 criteria
SC 2.4.8 is at level AAA because of the potential usability problems introduced by requiring that the link text alone be sufficient. For instance, in a table of links, repeating the table header information in each cell makes the table much more difficult to use.

The basic requirement that assistive technology be able to determine the purpose of the link is covered by SC 2.4.4. This success criterion has been moved to level A.
yes
LC-947 M.F. Laughton <adio@crc.ca> on behalf of Government of Canada (archived comment)
It is felt that this is a very weak part of the guidelines.

Proposed Change:

A level 2 item should stress that the initial or primary "presentation of the content" is accessible, not just some version.
Users may reach the page via a variety of paths which makes it difficult to clearly test for a default view. For instance, a search engine may link directly to the inaccessible version and for that user the inaccessible version would be the default because that is the first page that they landed on in the site when they came from the search engine. Another issue is that different users may have different content negotiation results and therefore the "default" version is could change based on user settings.

We have reworked this Success Criteria and moved it to the conformance section.

Alternate Versions: If the Web page does not meet all of the success criteria for a specified level, then a mechanism to obtain an alternate version that meets all of the success criteria can be derived from the nonconforming content or its URI, and that mechanism meets all success criteria for the specified level of conformance. The alternate version does not need to be matched page for page with the original (e.g. the alternative to a page may consist of multiple pages). If multiple language versions are available, then conforming versions are required for each language offered.
yes
LC-647 Matthew Magain <matt@opinios.com> on behalf of none (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: GE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

The exclusion of validity is a huge step backwards for web accessibility. A valid document ensures consistent rendering, regardless of user agent.

Proposed Change:

That validity be added as a requirement for conformance to success criteria.
The working group looked at this topic carefully over an extended period of time and concluded that requiring strict adherence to all aspects of specifications does not necessarily result in an increase in accessibility. For example, it is possible to create invalid pages that present no accessibility barriers. It is also possible in certain situations to enhance accessibility through the use of markup that is not part of the specification.

The working group must work within its charter and only include things that directly affected accessibility. Some aspects of "use technologies according to specification" and validity do relate to accessibility. However, others do not. So requiring validity would take us beyond our charter. We do recommend it though and it is our #1 technique listed for conforming to SC 4.1.1.
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LC-886 Monica Løland, The Danish Council of Organisations of Disabled People (DSI) <mol@handicap.dk> on behalf of The Danish Council of Organisations of Disabled People (DSI) (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: substantive
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

For deaf web users, there are two basic demands to be met to achieve full accessibility.
- Sign Language is the native language for the deaf, the first language on which thinking and communication is based. Danish is a foreign language learnt by reading and writing. Therefore information provided in sign language will always be preferable to information provided in Danish text. (A new survey states that half of the deaf population has no School leaving exams in Danish, since they were not able to meet the language demands. Døves uddannelses- og arbejdsmarkedsforhold. Castberggaard 2006)
- all information provided by sound, should also be provided visually.

Sign language interpretation is mentioned in Level 3 Success Criteria for Guideline 1.2. in the WCAG 2.0 Guidelines. This placing does not ensure full accessibility to the deaf community, since EU documents only have to meet the demands on Level 2.

Proposed Change:

Broadband Network (ADSL) gives new opportunities to send multimedia, and the guidelines should therefore see that these new opportunities is utilized to achieve full accessibility. Sign language interpretation should at least be a Level 2 Success Criteria.
The working group considered carefully the levels assigned to all the GL 1.2 success criteria. Delivery of sign language interpretation is more specialized, and difficult as compared to text captioning. Even with proper tools, a web author cannot do this without special training and skills, including the ability to translate into another language. Also some multimedia is fully usable at small size and marginal bandwidth setting and captions only marginally increase the demands. By comparison, sign language interpretation requires a relative large size, high resolution, and fast delivery rate. These aspects of sign language interpretation make the sucess criterion appropriate for Level AAA. tocheck
LC-887 Monica Løland, The Danish Council of Organisations of Disabled People (DSI) <mol@handicap.dk> on behalf of The Danish Council of Organisations of Disabled People (DSI) (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: substantive
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Success Criteria 3.1.5: “When text requires reading ability more that the lower secondary education level, supplemental content is available…� should be placed at level 2 instead of level 3. EU and many national governments meet WCAG conformance at level 2, which means that people with cognitive disabilities will not be granted full accessibility if 3.1.5 remains on Level 3. In WCAG 1.O checkpoint 14.1 was a level 1 criteria: “Use the clearest and simplest language appropriate for a site\'s content�.

Proposed Change:

Success Criteria 3.1.5: “When text requires reading ability more that the lower secondary education level, supplemental content is available…� should be placed at level 2 instead of level 3. EU and many national governments meet WCAG conformance at level 2, which means that people with cognitive disabilities will not be granted full accessibility if 3.1.5 remains on Level 3. In WCAG 1.O checkpoint 14.1 was a level 1 criteria: “Use the clearest and simplest language appropriate for a site\'s content�.
The working group agrees that writing as clearly and simply as possible is highly desirable, but could not find a way to test whether this had been achieved.

The description of conformance levels in WCAG 2 has been rewritten to clarify the levels:

The word "levels" does not mean that some success criteria are more important than others. Each success criterion in WCAG 2.0 is essential to some users, and the levels build upon each other. However, even content that conforms at AAA (triple-A) may not be fully accessible to every person with a disability.

*In general, Level A success criteria achieve accessibility by supporting assistive technology while putting the fewest possible limits on presentation. Thus people with a wide range of disabilities using a wide range of assistive technologies, from voice input and eye-tracking devices to screen readers and screen magnifiers, are able to access content in different ways. In other words, Level A success criteria support the ability of both mainstream and specialized user agents to adapt content to formats that meet their users' needs.
* The success criteria in Level AA provide additional support for assistive technology. At the same time, they also support direct access to content by the many people who use conventional user agents without assistive technology. In general, Level AA success criteria place more limits on visual presentation and other aspects of content than the success criteria in Level A.
*Level AAA success criteria increase both direct access and access through assistive technology. They place tighter limits on both presentation and content."

Because of the tighter limits that this success criterion places on content, we feel it is appropriate at level AAA.

We have added new success criteria addressing scalability of text:

Level AA: Visually rendered text can be resized without assistive technology up to 200 percent and down to 50 percent without loss of content or functionality.

Level AA: Visually rendered text can be resized without assistive technology up to 200 percent and down to 50 percent without loss of content or functionality and in a way that does not require the user to scroll horizontally.

In addition, we have added advisory techniques to improve the legibility of text:

- Avoiding text that is both left and right justified.
- Providing sufficient inter-line and inter-column spacing
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LC-819 Priti <priti.rohra@n-syst.com> on behalf of Net Systems Informatics (India) Pvt. Ltd. (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

If the given situation is true and the user is given 20 seconds to react…it will become difficult for people using Assistive Technology, such as screen readers to read the message and react within 20 seconds. Even if the user is needed to only press a key, with a screen reader listening to the warning alone might require more then 20 seconds. This time should be extended and not fixed based on the message.

Proposed Change:
The working group acknowledges that 20 seconds may not be enough for all users in all circumstances but felt that 20 seconds was a reasonable amount of time to require. The message informing the user is expected to be very short and screen reader users typically listen at very high rates of speed. tocheck
LC-719 Robert C. Baker <Robert.C.Baker@ssa.gov> on behalf of Social Security Administration (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

(See LC 681 for complete submission)

The guidelines do not address the following:

§ For error handling, there must be a way for users to know where errors are in a form and be able to navigate directly to the input in error.


Proposed Change:
The working group considered adding this requirement as a success criterion, and decided not to because it is too specific to apply to all technologies and all environments. However, there are several advisory techniques provided that will help authors who wish to design more usable forms. tocheck
LC-720 Robert C. Baker <Robert.C.Baker@ssa.gov> on behalf of Social Security Administration (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

(See LC 681 for complete submission)

The guidelines do not address the following:

§Guidelines for creating HTML documentation and Help must be stated and Help using navigational techniques must also be documented for accessibility.


Proposed Change:
We agree that Help and documentation that is available *on the web* is web content and hence that it should conform to these Guidelines. Note that although the same issues appear for documentation and Help files for desktop applications, these guidelines do not address that content. However, we feel that attempting to single out specific examples of Web content is likely to lead people to believe that only the listed examples are covered. tocheck
LC-721 Robert C. Baker <Robert.C.Baker@ssa.gov> on behalf of Social Security Administration (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

(See LC 681 for complete submission)

The guidelines do not address the following:

§Informational text and instructions within web applications must have a focal point achieved by using tab indices of zero or some equivalent technique.

Proposed Change:
The working group believes that there are some instances where deliberately putting focus on something (like error messages) can be helpful, but that attempting to control the way a user interacts with all pages, especially where it may conflict with expected behaviors for forms or other user interface components, is problematic. tocheck
LC-723 Robert C. Baker <Robert.C.Baker@ssa.gov> on behalf of Social Security Administration (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

(See LC 681 for complete submission)

The guidelines do not address the following:

§Standardized keyboard navigation through frames.

Proposed Change:
The success criteria in guideline 2.1 require that all content be operable via the keyboard. How user agents provide keyboard navigation through frames is a user agent issue. tocheck
LC-724 Robert C. Baker <Robert.C.Baker@ssa.gov> on behalf of Social Security Administration (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

(See LC 681 for complete submission)

The guidelines do not address the following:

§Search facility guidelines for navigation and focus.

Proposed Change:
While this can be helpful for improving the experience with Windows Narrator, more fully-featured screen readers have the ability to allow users to interact with all kinds of text. Users of those screen readers are used to the way they interact with structured pages, and don't need this extra help.

In addition, there are many issues for other types of users with this non-standard approach. For example,

1) Unexpected behavior for all users
2) Developers often attach events to paragraphs and other non-actionable elements when they have focus, and this is not compatible with AT.
3) This will be more difficult for sighted keyboard users, as they will have to tab through parts of the page that are not normally tabbable.
4) Confusing for experienced screen-reader users, because they expect that everything tabbable in a form is an editable field
5) Optimized for forms mode, but also used on non-form pages. This is very strange when in browse mode, because users expect to be able to tab to find links.
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LC-731 Robert C. Baker <Robert.C.Baker@ssa.gov> on behalf of Social Security Administration (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

(See LC 681 for complete submission)

In addition, we recommend the W3C address the following items at a later date:

§ Guidelines should address table navigation for magnification users.

Proposed Change:
Success criterion 1.3.1 includes requirements related to the use of table markup. The working group believes that this is a user agent issue rather than a content issue.

If you have suggestions for techniques that would improve table navigation for screen magnification users, please submit them so we can include them. (Refer to the techniques submission form at http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/TECHS-SUBMIT/).
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LC-474 Roger Hudson <rhudson@usability.com.au> (archived comment)
Item Number: Success Criterion 1.4.3
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

The spread of the requirement to have sufficient difference between foreground and background colours over two Success Criterion is an effective way of recognising the fact that the higher the contrast ratio the more likely the information will be accessible to a greater number of people with impaired colour vision.

However, I believe both the SC relating to this issue should be increased.

Proposed Change:

Make SC 1.4.3 a Level 2 Success Criteria
The working group discussed this topic for a long time and after much discussion decided that SC 1.4.3 (formerly 1.4.1) should be at level AA and SC 1.4.5 (formerly 1.4.3) should be at level AAA. It was felt that all of the information in the text would already be available through the alternate texts (short alternate text and long description) if needed and that restricting text contrast for the default presentaion to this extent was more restrictive than desired for a level A success criterion. tocheck
LC-475 Roger Hudson <rhudson@usability.com.au> (archived comment)
Item Number: Success Criterion 1.4.1
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

Many people have difficulties differentiating between the foreground (text) and background colours used on websites. Also, as people get older their ability to perceive colours and differentiate between colours seems to diminish.

I believe that this is a significant accessibility issue and so should be required if a site is to achieve a minimum level of accessibility.

Proposed Change:

Make 1.4.1 a Level 1 Success Criteria
The working group discussed this topic for a long time and after much discussion decided that SC 1.4.3 (formerly 1.4.1) should be at level AA and SC 1.4.4 (formerly 1.4.3) should be at level AAA. It was felt that all of the information in the text would already be available through the alternate texts (short alternate text and long description) if needed and that restricting text contrast for the default presentation to this extent was more restrictive than desired for a level A success criterion. tocheck
LC-476 Roger Hudson <rhudson@usability.com.au> (archived comment)
Item Number: Success Criterion 1.3.1
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

It appears that SC 1.3.1 encompasses many separate guidelines that were specified in WCAG 1.0, including the requirement to associate data table cells with the appropriate row and column headings and requirements relating to the labelling and grouping of form controls. I presume part of the reason for combining such a diverse range of accessibility needs in single success criteria is the desire to have criteria that are "technology-independent".

In my experience, a lage proportion of the problems assistive technology users now experience when using web sites result from the sites failing comply with the WCAG 1.0 guidelines that are now nominally covered by SC 1.3.1. Nearly all web content is currently presented using (x)html and this is likely to continue to be the case for the foreseeable future. However WCAG 2.0, which is the normative document, provides web developers with no practical guidance or clues in how to avoid these problems.

The link "How to meet 1.3.1" leads to information in the "Understanding WCAG 2.0" document, which describes techniques for addressing the criterion. The "Understanding" document contains links to eleven HTML techniques, which are presented in yet another document, "Techniques for WCAG 2.0".

Frankly, I don't imagine many developers when faced with the prospect of preparing a data table will bother to troll through three documents in order to see why it is important to associate data cells with row and column headers in a non-visual way. On a related point, why don’t the "Understanding WCAG 2.0" HTML Techniques include the need to use TH for tables with single levels of row and column headers?

I am concerned that the failure to provide guidance in relation to crucial html issues in the WCAG 2.0 document will lead to a decline in awareness on the part of developers regarding their importance and this will contribute to a fall in the overall accessibility of websites and the web as a whole.

I believe the Working Group should get over their hang up with developing some sort of technology neutral standard and recognise that the way to bring the greatest accessibility gains to the greatest proportion of web users is by providing practical advice in how to improve the accessibility of (x)html sites.

Proposed Change:

In my view, WCAG 2.0 Guideline 1.3 should include success criteria for the specific issues that are addressed in the following WCAG 1.0 Checkpoints: 3.1, 3.5, 3.6, 5.1, 5.2, 5.5 and 12.4.

Since this is unlikely to happen, I would like to urge the Working Group to consider providing HTML example for each of the issues covered by the checkpoints above in the core WCAG 2.0 document so that SC 1.3.1 is able to provide the majority of web developers with a clear indication of how to meet this criterion.
If the normative guidelines include the HTML-specific success criteria, then tables, forms, headings, etc. could only conform to WCAG 2.0 if they are implemented in HTML. Tables, forms, headings, etc. implemented in any other technology, such as PDF, could not conform to WCAG 2.0. It is expected that many HTML developers will simply go directly to the HTML Techniques instead of starting with the guidelines document.

With regard to your specific recommendations on addressing WCAG 1.0 checkpoints 3.5, 3.6, 5.1, 5.2, 5.5 and 12.4, these checkpoints are addressed in the following WCAG 2.0 techniques:

- 3.5; H42: Using h1-h6 to identify headings http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20060427/Overview.html#H42

- 3.6; H48: Using ol, ul and dl for lists http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20060427/Overview.html#H48

- 5.1; H51: Using table markup to present tabular informationhttp://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20060427/Overview.html#H51

5.2; H43: Using id and headers attributes to associate data cells with header cells in data tables http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20060427/Overview.html#H43 AND H63: Using the scope attribute to associate header cells and data cells in data tables http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20060427/Overview.html#H63

- 5.5; H73: Using the summary attribute of the table element to give an overview of data tables http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20060427/Overview.html#H73

- 12.4; H44: Using label elements to associate text labels with form controls http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20060427/Overview.html#H44

With regard to the comment about why the Understanding WCAG 2.0 HTML
Techniques don't include the need to use TH for tables with single levels of row and column headers, this requirement is covered in technique H51: Using table markup to present tabular information
http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20060427/Overview.html#H51
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LC-529 Roger Hudson <rhudson@usability.com.au> (archived comment)
Item Number: Conformance levels and the baseline
Part of Item:
Comment Type: GE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

I feel the proposed system of Success Criteria is potentially confusing and misleading. The document states the proposed grouping of success criteria differs in important ways to the approach taken with WCAG 1.0 since in WCAG 1.0 each checkpoint was assigned a "priority"Â? according to its impact on accessibility. While I had some concerns of the allocation of specific levels of priority to checkpoints in WCAG 1.0, I felt the overall priority approach was effective since it was easy to understand and provided clear guidance to website owners and developers

To me the use of phrases like "achieve a minimum level of accessibility" for Level 1 SC and "achieve an enhanced level of accessibility"Â? for Level 2 SC do in effect communicate levels of impact on accessibility. As such they do not seem to be much different to the old "priority" approach.

In practice, web developers and regulatory organizations used the WCAG 1.0 Priority levels as a measure for determining levels of accessibility, and they are likely to continue to do so with WCAG 2.0.

On a related point, the Note, "For each success criterion, ..."Â? is clumsily written. I am not sure what this note is intended to communicate, but I presume it is not supposed to suggest the Working Group will be the body that will determine whether a success criterion has been met. Also, if it is possible to meet a success criterion without passing the tests for all the suggested techniques, or for that matter any of the suggested techniques, then surely some people will wonder why they should consider the suggested techniques at all.

Proposed Change:

Following the principle of "when it is not broke don't fix it"Â?, I suggest the Working Group consider retaining the "priority"Â? approach, while of course making any necessary adjustments to the priority levels of some criteria.

The note referred to earlier should be either re-written or removed.
Regarding your first point: The Levels in WCAG 2.0 differ from WCAG 1.0 as described. They were changed because it was determined that the description of the "priority levels" in WCAG 1.0 were inaccurate - so we could not use them in WCAG 2.0. The levels in WCAG 2.0 can however be seen as a type of priority or importance rating - and we expect that people will use them in that manner.

Regarding the note: The WCAG Working Group does decide what it feels are sufficient techniques for meeting the success criterion. We do not assert that they are necessarily the only techniques - and hence we state that explicitly. Thus authors are not required to use only these techniques. They are useful to authors however, in that authors can be more sure that the techniques do meet the success criteria and they have an easier time justifying this to any third parties.
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LC-566 Roger Hudson <rhudson@usability.com.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: GE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Guideline 4.2 relates to the need to ensure content is accessible or provide an accessible alternative. I am concerned that overall, WCAG 2.0 does not sufficiently recognise the needs of people with cognitive disabilities or limitations and this guideline in particular does not appear to specifically address these needs.

In my country (and I imagine in most others) people with cognitive disabilities and learning disorders represent the largest proportion of the population with disabilities. In its current state, WCAG 2.0 could leave a site developer, who is keen to improve the accessibility of a site for people with cognitive disabilities, with the incorrect impression that all they need to do is ensure the content is at an appropriate reading level.

WCAG 2.0 should not avoid addressing the needs of people with cognitive disabilities with the vague excuse that it is not immediately possible because today\'s technologies and user agents do not adequately support content negotiation.


Proposed Change:

I strongly urge the Working Group to provide more comprehensive guidance in how to improve the accessibility of web sites for people with cognitive disabilities and learning disorders in WCAG 2.0.

I suggest Guideline 4.2 (and the associated documents) should specify different ways of improving the accessibility of content for people with cognitive disabilities and learning disorders. Also, the Guideline should clearly indicate appropriate ways of providing accessible alternative content.
The former Guideline 4.2 (which has been incorporated into the Conformance section) permits multiple versions of content, so that specialized presentations for people with cognitive, learning, and language disabilities can be provided.

We have added language to the Introduction, the Conformance section, and the Quick Reference to highlight the fact that WCAG 2 only addresses some of the needs of people with cognitive, learning, and language disabilities, and to call out the need for more research in this area. WAI is exploring ways in which to support and encourage work in this important area.

We have added some best practices for cognitive, learning, and language disabilities as advisory techniques, and we have proposed 3 new success criteria in this area.
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LC-803 Sailesh Panchang <sailesh.panchang@deque.com> on behalf of Deque Systems Inc (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

The definition really does not add much else and one less term will reduce the length and perceived complexity of the docs.

Proposed Change:

The term ‘pure decoration’ need not be defined. Instead word it to say:
… is purely for decoration or
Is solely for decoration
wherever the term \'pure decoration\' is used as in 1.1.1
There is much danger in people calling things decorative that have function or convey information. The definition helps to make this clearer than just the term as you suggest. yes
LC-805 Sailesh Panchang <sailesh.panchang@deque.com> on behalf of Deque Systems Inc (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

The term ‘live multimedia’ has not been defined while live audio and live video are defined. Although the term ‘live’ is generally understood to mean real-time, I believe the WCAG2 doc should use the word ‘real-time’ in place of ‘live’ as more technically correct.

Proposed Change:

Use \'real-time\' in place of \'live\'
Consider defining real-time multimedia as well.
All live material is real-time but not all real-time is live. If a program generates content, it can do so in real-time. But it would not be covered by this guideline. Live was used specifically to distinguish things that happen "live" from those that are generated by programs in real-time. yes
LC-811 Sailesh Panchang <sailesh.panchang@deque.com> on behalf of Deque Systems Inc (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

SC 1.2.2 and 1.2.3 do not distinguish between ‘standard’ and ‘extended’ audio descriptions. This is quite understandable. The distinction is done in the glossary.
In one situation ‘standard’ ones may be adequate and in another ‘extended’ ones may be needed. This depends on the context and whether adequate pauses are available in multimedia to incorporate audio descriptions. In one case there may be no scope to add even 2 words without creating extended pauses; and in another one may be able to add 50 words without creating extended pauses.

Therefore extended audio descriptions at level 3 (1.2.6) is an unnecessary requirement. They do not ‘enhance’ accessibility but are required when pauses invideo need to be created to incorporate appropriate audio descriptions.
It is understandable that audio descriptions are required to provide minimum accessibility (level 1) or enhance accessibility at level 2 but at level 3 it is repetitive.

Proposed Change:

Drop 1.2.6 completely
Extended audio descriptions are not required by SC 1.2.2 and 1.2.3. In fact, Audio Description is defined as additional audio content during the naturally occurring gaps. SC 1.2.6 is therefore needed to introduce the extended audio description concept. yes
LC-815 Sailesh Panchang <sailesh.panchang@deque.com> on behalf of Deque Systems Inc (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: ED
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

The term \'user agent\' has been defined to include assistive technologies in the UAG as well as in the WCAG glossary. So why use the term \'user agents including assistive technologies\' throughout the document? It occurs several times throughout all the WCAG docs. Restrict it to \'user agents\' and it will reduce length of the docs and verbosity that a screen reader has to endure.

Proposed Change:

Restrict it to \'user agents\' and delete \'including assistive technologies\'.
Although the definition of user agent includes assistive technologies, the definition blurs the distinction between support for users with disabilities that is provided directly by the user agent and support that is provided by an external service that interacts with a user agent that does not provide that support directly. Within WCAG, we use assistive technology to refer to the latter sort of service. We call out support for assistive technology explicitly so that programmatically determinable information is available to assistive technology, and not just to the host user agent. We agree that this can make the language awkward and longer but we think the distinction is important for clarity. yes
LC-1321 Takayuki Watanabe, Makoto Ueki, and Masahiro Umegaki <nabe@lab.twcu.ac.jp> on behalf of JIS WG2 (archived comment)
Comment: Scope of SC 2.5.3 is limited and narrow. It deals with specific forms. Thus, it should be moved to L3.

Proposed Change:

Level 3 Success Criteria for Guideline 2.5
2.5.3 For forms that cause legal or financial transactions to occur, that modify or delete data in data storage systems, or that submit test responses, at least one of the following is true:
1. Actions are reversible.
2. Actions are checked for input errors before going on to the next step in the process.
3. The user is able to review and confirm or correct information before submitting it.
Level AAA is not appropriate because the success criterion can be satisfied by all forms that cause legal commitments or financial transactions to occur, that modify or delete data in data storage systems, or that submit test responses. The limitations on presentation and content imposed by the success criterion do not warrant moving it to level AAA. tocheck
LC-1657 William Loughborough <love26@gorge.net> (archived comment)
Item number: 1.1.1

Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change)

The fourth bullet in 1.1.1 says "If non-text content is pure decoration, or used only for visual formatting, or if it is not presented to users, it is implemented such that it can be ignored by assistive technology."

The strong implication is that this provision is there to make for less "babble" of unwanted descriptions of items with little/no non-visual intent. This is typically done by using "" (null alt-text) in place of "alt", "longdesc", whatever and does make for a less-cluttered audio environment in the case of a screen reader.

Of greater significance is that it erects an exclusionary wall around a blind user who might be working in a Web Shop and in order to properly deal with the elements in question would be shut out from meaningful communication with co-workers.

This should be re-examined from that point of view.

Proposed Change:

"pure decoration" should not be exempt from descriptive mandates via
text. It is OK to make it easy for some blanket filtering, perhaps by
putting "decor" at the
beginning of the alt-text and having the screen reader know therefrom to
not voice that one.
The fourth bullet of SC 1.1.1 requires that "decorative" content be implemented so that it can be ignored by AT. It is up to the AT to decide whether or not to ignore it. We agree that it would be useful for AT to provide different modes or filters, depending on the user's preference. However, unless the content has been identified as decorative, the user agent will be unable to provide that choice.

The success criterion in WCAG are intended to cover the normal mode of operation to an end user. A blind developer working in a Web shop would probably be able to use different tools to view the content than an end user (e.g. viewing the source), and so would not be excluded in the manner suggested.
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LC-1206 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
Good; but there are a few things mis-filed

Proposed Change:

move 3.2.5 to a "what user can do" section containing most of the Principle 2 material.

Move Guideline 2.4 to a "what the user needs to be able to understand" section containing most of what is presently Principle 3 material.
SC 3.2.5 isn't a problem with inability to operate, but a problem with disorientation.

Regarding Guideline 2.4, these criteria do fit in both categories. However, the working group feels these criterion have more to do with operation than they do with understanding.
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LC-1208 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
equivalent facilitation does not only apply to future technologies, or only to technologies outside your baseline.
This is a principle that applies across the board.

Compare with comments on "one strike and you're out" roll-up in the comments on the conformance scheme.

Proposed Change:

re-write the document and conformance scheme so that it is obvious that the remedy for a potential problem may come at a different level of aggregation from where the potential problem was noticed.

For example, a CAPTCHA in the login process may be worked around by a totally different login process. In other words the failure of access is local to the image but the affordance of accommodation or relief is through equivalence at the task, not the image, level.

For another example, a diagram in SVG may afford the user a navigable structure of focusable elements. If these represent the notional objects in the scene, and they are suitably titled and otherwise annotated with properties and relationships, the text equvalent for the image may be provided at a lower level of aggregation by providing text associated with the parts of the image.

So the relief may be at a higher or lower level of aggregation from the perception of a possible problem (recognition of a match to the selector or applicability-condition I would call the "left-hand-side" of a rule e.g. success criterion).
Currently there is no requirement that the work-around be at the same level of aggregation on a web page, as long as it is on the same page (see definition of web page) so equivalent facilitation is permissible at a different layer of aggregation (as long as it is at the same URI). For instance, in the case of the CAPTCHA example you gave, the different login process would conform as long as it could be reached from where the CAPTCHA is situated. yes
LC-1218 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
the concepts of 'content' and 'presentation' as used here are indadequate to explain the needs of users with disabilities even with today's technology.

Content v. Presentation

Since this is one of the holy cows of accessibility, and I at least feel that this explanation is fundamentally problematical, I think this is a fertile area for discussion.

Hypothetical dialog:

Joe:

"rendering" refers to the rendered content, like an "artist's rendering" of a planned building. This includes everything, the glyphs for making writing evident (perceivable or recognizable) and all the CSS-added effects such as font face, size, bold, and color that the authors mean to imply by 'presentation.'

Moe:

No, the use of 'rendering' here doesn't mean the as-rendered result, it refers to the process of generating that result.

What's wrong with this story?

Preliminaries in terms of terminology
Both "presentation" and "rendering" are used in plain English to refer to either the activity that transforms the content or the resulting representation of the content at the User Interface. This ambiguity could be resolved by more surgical word-smithing.

more serious

The transformation is entirely determined by the technology choices of the author. So if we say 'presentation' is defined by the function of this transformation, we are at the whim of the encoding used between server and User Agent, and we haven't really isolated a genuine rhetorical or semantic distinction.

If we go with "the process that generates the final representation at the User Interface" we find that the division between content and presentation is determined by the author's choice of file format and the implied client-side transformation to the pixel plane or audio out channel.

To make this clear, consider that if we define the difference between presentation and content by the rendering transform, the text-in-images is image content. At least the way PF has been approaching things, this is an erroneous model. Because the text in the image will be _recognized_ by the general user as being a sample of written language, or some sort of code using the writing system of a written language, that language or symbology defines a re-purposable baseline for adapting the look and feel of the user experience to get within the capture regime of the user's sensation, perception, and conception.

* most serious:

The distinction is not only not defined by this language in the document, it is not definable in any stable and fair way.

Starting at the sensible user interface, we can articulate different deconstructions, or "content hypotheses" for what is presented to the user. In the case of textual content, that's not a big problem, the Unicode character set provides a good level of abstraction that

a) supports client-side personalization of the rendered form of the writing, and b) is readily verifiable by the author as "yes, that's what I said."

The problem is that a lot of the connotations that are communicated by arrangement and other articulable features in the scene presented to the user are much less readily articulated or validated by the author. And depending on the media-critical skill and habitual vocabulary of the knowledge engineer doing the deconstruction, you will get rather different information graphs as an articulation of the 'content' of the scene.

Contemporary web page design is more poster design that essay composition. And it is more interactive than what was supported in HTML1 or HTML2. It is the design of a richly decorated and annotated button-board -- a collection of clickables which the site and author think would appeal to the visitor based on what they know from the dialog so far. But that doesn't guarantee a lot of relationship between the different fragments mashed together into the page. If the page does focus on one coherent story, the page will list higher in search results. But that hasn't taken over practice in the field yet.

So the information that is implicit in the [complete, including glyphs, etc.] rendered form of the content is a mix of that which is readily articulable, and the author will readily recognize as articulable, and other information that at first seems ineffable until a skilled media critic analyzes it and presents an analysis to the author or designer; only then can they recognize that there are articulable properties about their stuff. If the analyst is working from an information model of properties and relationships that are known to survive re-purposing and re-enforce usability in the re-purposed rendering, then this process of backing up appearances (including sonic appearances if included) with an articulable model will in fact enable better access, better usability in the adapted experience. And it will also improve usability on the whole in the un-adapted user experience, but more weakly. There will be fewer task failures for the nominal user if the model underpinnings are not provided than for the user who has to depend on an adapted user experience, an off-nominal look and feel.

** so where do we go? how to do it right?

My latest attempt at a summary is the presentation I did at the Plenary Day on 1 March.

<quote
cite="http://www.w3.org/2006/03/01-Gilman/tree2.xhtml">

afford functional and usable adapted views
function: orientation --
Where am I?
What is there?
What can I do?
function: actuation --
from keyboard and from API
navigation: move "Where am I?
performance: usable --
low task failure rate confirms access to action, orientation
reasonable task-completion time confirms structure,
orientation, navigation

</quote>

What gets into our 'content' model, where we ask authors to encode and share the answers to selected questions, is a modeling decision driven by what we *know* about the functional differences between PWD and nominal use of the User Interface.

In other words, we know that the "current context" -- the user's gut understanding of the extent of the answer to "where am I?" -- that you can reliably keep in foreground memory on the fly in a Text-To-Speech readout of a page is a smaller neighborhood than what the visual user perceives as the context that they are operating in. This is why there has to be information that supports the system prompting the user about where they are and where they can go -- navigation assitance -- *inside* the page, more consistently and at a finer grain than the full-vision user needs.

The screen reader user without Braille has more local neighborhoods that have to be explainable in terms of "where am I?" and hence more levels of "where am I?" answers in the decomposition of the page. Most of those levels or groupings are evident in the visual presentation, but we have to coach the author in articulating, labeling, and encoding the industrial-strength explanation of page structure beyond what is enforced by better/worse differences in user experience under nominal use conditions.

This effect is readily understood in the area of orienting for "what can I do?" This requires good labeling for hyperlinks, form controls, and other presented objects that invite user action. This is pretty well set out in

Both WCAG1 and WCAG2.

The model of what information to ask for as regards intra-page structure is less well resolved in the community (there is less endemic agreement on what this information is). We have hopes for the "time to reach" metric analysis used in ADesigner (from IBM Japan) as a way to communicate when and where they need to improve the markup of intrapage structure.

The bottom line is that we should stop trying to generate disability-blind specifics at a level as low as the Success Criteria without getting more specific about known disability-specific adaptations in the look and feel of the web browse experience. Analyze the usability drivers in the adapted look-and-feel situations, and then harmonize the content model across multiple adaptations of look and feel including the null adaptation.

[one principle I missed in the Tech Plenary presentation:]
-- the first principle, that I did brief, is to:

- enable enough personalization so that the user can achieve a functional user experience (function and performance as described at Plenary)

-- the second principle that we have talked about with DI but did not discuss in the brief pitch at Plenary is to:

- enable the user to achieve this with a little perturbation in the look and feel as possible; in other words the equivalence between the adapted and unadapted user experiences should be recognizable at as low a level as possible. Using adaptations (equivalent facilitation) which require a high level of abstraction (task level) to recognize their equivalence is both necessary and OK if there is no less invasive way to afford a functional user experience. But most of the time there's an easier way, and while what is hard should be possible, what is easy should indeed be easy.

Proposed Change:

Apply the suggestions under "two interfaces" comments, to wit:
Articulate requirements a) against the rendered content as it contributes directly to the user experience b) against the content as communicated between the server and the user agent -- the formal model created by the format and exposed by the document object that results from the "clean parse (see IBM suggestions there).

Enumerate information requirements that have to be satisfied by the formal model in terms of questions that the content object must be able to answer in response to a predictable query (programmatically determined requirement). Most of these are context-adapted versions of "Where am I? What is _there_? and What can I do?"
As with issue LC-1204, we believe that reorganizing the guidelines in this fashion would be much more difficult for people to understand and use than our current structure. yes
LC-507 Alex Li <alex.li@sap.com> on behalf of SAP (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: GE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

This is related to user-entered or contributed content. It was brought to discussion on May 4th WCAG con call already with no conclusion. Due to the fact that you can violate WCAG with an ASCII smily face (1.1.1) or change of language without proper tag, or use of jargon, any user input can potentially violate WCAG. If the user input resurface, even as input confirmation, the web unit would automatically fail WCAG. All seach engines would fail because it cannot stop users from typing in an ASCII smily in the search box. The subsequent search result screen of finding x number, even if it is 0, of hits with the smily would fail. This is the same with foreign languages and jargon. All websites containing logon screen would fail because user can type in a smily face into the user id box, whether such user id exist or not. The system returns to confirm the id. The web unit of the confirmation just failed WCAG. All webmails would fail because incoming mails could come from a plain text mail client or contain inaccessible mail content of all sorts. Webmail cannot alter the content of incoming email without violation of privacy, at the minimum. No webmail can claim conformity. All photosites would fail because user can always put in empty or inproper alt tag of photos that they submit. All blogs would fail because user input is essential. Product user reviews, such as those in Amazon or Cnet, would fail.

The list can go on and extend to all web applications. As soon as a user agent accepts user input that are not restricted (anything other than dropdown list or radio button), they cannot conform. In fact, comment area of WCAG 2.0 last call fails because you cannot stop me from typing in jargon, foreign language, or ascii art. I'm making this violation at the botton of the mail just to make a point. Scoping out user-entered content is extremely difficult for many sites, especially when user-entered content is pervasive. How would a blog, web mail, evite, business application scope out user-entered content? Such information is essentially on every web unit.

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Proposed Change:

Add a paragraph in the comformance area that user-contributed content is automatically scoped out.
We have rewritten the conformance section to clarify that WCAG is descriptive rather than prescriptive. That is, it doesn't say what should be accessible. Rather, it is a measure of accessibility. The conformance section has been rewritten to reflect this.

A way to specify partial conformance was also added. See http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#conformance-partial

We have clarified the situation by removing all exceptions and adding the following at the end of the conformance section:

Note: If pages can not conform (for example, conformance test pages or example pages) they would not be included in the conformance claim.
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LC-836 Alex Li <alex.li@sap.com> on behalf of SAP (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: general comment
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Requiring alternative version from the same URI would not be logical if the content in question is part of the process. In other words, you normally would not switch to alternative version or text-only version in the middle of a check-out process. You normally do it at the beginning of the process that lead to throught the original or alternative version.

Proposed Change:

Add \"except if the content is part of a process and that alternative version selection can be made by the user at the beginning of the process.\" to 4.2.1. Yes, I know this is longwinded. It is not a live or die problem. But it would make logical sense.
We have moved discussion of alternate versions of content to the Conformance section of the Guidelines, and we have clarified by adding the following conformance criterion:
"Alternate Versions: If the Web page does not meet all of the success criteria for a specified level, then a mechanism to obtain an alternate version that meets all of the success criteria can be derived from the nonconforming content or its URI, and that mechanism meets all success criteria for the specified level of conformance. The alternate version does not need to be matched page for page with the original (e.g. the alternative to a page may consist of multiple pages). If multiple language versions are available, then conforming versions are required for each language offered.

This still does not permit a many-to-many matching, as separate processes would imply.
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LC-924 Andi Snow-Weaver <andisnow@us.ibm.com> on behalf of IBM (archived comment)
The WCAG 1.0 priority scheme is used consistently in all WAI specs but WCAG 2.0 is defining a new priority scheme with Levels 1, 2, and 3.

Proposed Change:

Use a consistent prioritization scheme in all WAI specs
While consistency with other specs is desirable, each spec has individual structure for particular reasons. The WCAG 1.0 priority scheme claims that content becomes "more accessible" as the level of conformances get higher. Because we know that there are success criteria at every level that are essential to some people, we feel that this scheme is not appropriate. To clarify our usage, we have rewritten the description of conformance levels in WCAG 2 at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#overview-levels . yes
LC-1293 Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@visionaustralia.org> on behalf of Vision Australia (archived comment)
Comment: the current wording is hard to comprehend - why not use the simpler wording from WCAG 1.0 Checkpoint 13.1?

Proposed Change:

Simplify the language.
We have struggled to find simpler ways to express these success criteria so that the success criteria are descriptive rather than imperative, and so that it is clear that the mechanism for identifying the link target must be programmatically determinable, that is, defined so that user agents and assistive technology can use it. Checkpoint 13.1 identifies what must be done (identify the link target), but does not specify how, even for HTML. The wording of 13.1 might lead to the conclusion that alt text on an image used as a link is not acceptable, or that describing the link target in text preceding the link is acceptable. There is also some ambiguity as to whether "target" refers to the window in which the link will be displayed or the contents that will be displayed. yes
LC-1298 Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@visionaustralia.org> on behalf of Vision Australia (archived comment)
Comment: Everyones I speak to has trouble with the UN definition approach

Proposed Change:

Why not just say 'X years of schooling'? Or something else equally understandable drawn from the UN definition.
The success criterion relies on the UN definition because it takes into account cultural differences in education systems. The Working Group did not want to base the success criterion on a particular country's educational system. The UN definition provides a framework for translating the purpose of the success criterion into the specifics for different countries. yes
LC-876 Brian Kelly <b.kelly@ukoln.ac.uk> on behalf of UKOLN (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: general comment
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Whilst WAI has been a political success, the WAI model (reliant of WCAG, ATAG and UUAG) is fundamentally flawed and has quite clearly failed. The individual guidelines themselves are flawed, as we are seeing with the move to WCAG 1.0.

In addition, the WAI guidelines, which seek to address *Web* accessibility can act to the detriment of wider accessibility, which may be addressed at an operating system level, for example, or by other approaches, such as that taken by the IMS AccessForAlll approach.

It should also be noted that IMS has a different definition of disability to WAI, which is based on a social model, rather thab WAI\'s medical model. It is unfortunate that the WAI approach is based on a model which is not universally applicable.

However rather than seeking to develop a more open and user-focussed approach, WCAG 2 takes a very technical approach which is difficult to understand. It also fails to allow for a diversity of approaches to accessibility.

This is very worrying, as WAI should be seeking to develop a broad model which will provide a solid foundation for building accessibility. Attempting to build a standard on the flawed approach of WCAG 2.0 will be counter-productive for accessibility and undermine the work of W3C.

It should also be noted that an over-prescriptive appoach can (is) leading to continued use of provietary solutions (e.g. on Intranets) as there is less of a legal reliance to make non-Web applications accessible.

For further information see:

Contextual Web Accessibility - Maximizing the Benefit of Accessibility Guidelines, <http://www.ukoln.ac.uk/web-focus/papers/w4a-2006/>

Forcing Standardization or Accommodating Diversity? A Framework for Applying the WCAG in the Real World, <http://www.ukoln.ac.uk/web-focus/papers/w4a-2005/>

Proposed Change:

My proposals:

o Withdraw WCAG 2.0
o Produce an errata for WCAG 1.0
o Develop an open approach/model for accessibility
o Be explicit in \'difficult\' examples of applications of WAI guidelines (e.g. Podcasting)
WCAG was chartered with specific goals and requirements (see <http://www.w3.org/TR/wcag2-req/>http://www.w3.org/TR/wcag2-req/).

WCAG 2.0 works within the same framework as WCAG 1.0, so it is not clear how withdrawing WCAG 2.0 and producing an errata for WCAG 1.0 would address your issues with the WAI model being inappropriate.

Although WAI specifically addressed only web accessibility, other standards efforts look at web and non-web accessibility, and we have worked closely with those standards bodies to ensure that WCAG is as consistent and harmonious with them as possible. We do not believe they are in conflict.

With regard to the other aspect of your comment dealing with WAI model being inadequate that topic is beyond our charter. We have forwarded your comments to the WAI director so that you can take up your discussion with her if you like.
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LC-687 Bruno von Niman <ANEC_W3CRep_Bruno@vonniman.com> on behalf of ANEC (ANEC-ICT-2006-W3C-006) (archived comment)
Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

We would like to see WCAG 2.0 applied to as many
non-public (or "commercial") sites as possible

Proposed Change:

A starter package should be developed,
addressing basic accessibility issues
This is outside the scope (charter) of the WCAG working group. However, we are working with the Education and Outreach (EO) working group that is developing application notes. They are also planning on doing one on the basics for elementary web designers, and a one page Quick Tips like they did with WCAG 1.0. yes
LC-892 Emmanuelle Gutiérrez y Restrepo <coordina@sidar.org> on behalf of Sidar Foundation (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: general comment
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

The National Confederation of Deaf Persons of Spain (CNSE)have requested to us that we support to obtain an improvement in the accessibility for the deaf people.
Being conscious of the differences between the languages of signs worldwide and the lack of equivalence with the languages spoken in each country, we considered that some reasonable advances by means of the following changes could be included.

Proposed Change:

Include the 1.2.5 in the Level 2 Success Criteria for Guideline 1.2
The working group considered carefully the levels assigned to all the GL 1.2 success criteria. Delivery of sign language interpretation is more specialized, and difficult as compared to text captioning. Even with proper tools, a web author cannot do this without special training and skills, including the ability to translate into another language. Also some multimedia is fully usable at small size and marginal bandwidth setting and captions only marginally increase the demands. By comparison, sign language interpretation requires a relative large size, high resolution, and fast delivery rate. These aspects of sign language interpretation make the success criterion appropriate for Level AAA. tocheck
LC-1488 Eric Hansen <ehansen@ets.org> on behalf of Educational Testing Service (archived comment)
Based on the definitions, are not all acronyms also initialisms? If so, indicate. I am not an expert.

initialism
shortened form of a name or phrase made from the initial letters of words or syllables contained in that name or phrase. [Are acronyms a type of initialism?]

Proposed Change:

Note: Includes initialisms including acronyms.
The working group found that the differentiation between these two terms is somewhat contentious and decided to define and refer to them separately. The proposed revision was not accepted because, depending upon which definition you use, the results would differ. Regardless of whether something is an initialism or an acronym, it needs to meet success criterion 3.1.4. yes
LC-1020 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
Issues with commenting - It is difficult to accurately comment on WCAG2 when the documents that are needed to understand WCAG2 are not normative and are not complete. For example, one cannot interpret a SC without referring to techniques, yet these are not normative. There has been a lot of people saying WCAG2 is difficult to understand, yet they cannot rely on the UW or TD documents as these are neither normative or complete. The WG could vote to significantly change these documents, thereby significantly changing the meaning of particular success criteria, without ever allowing comments from the public. In a perfect world neither the UW or TD documents would be required in order to understand WCAG2 but taking into account the difficulty most people are having with interpreting WCAG2, these documents are becoming mandatory reading.

Proposed Change:

Allow for a subsequent 'Last Call' when all documents are complete, and specify that WCAG2 must be read and interpreted in conjunction with UW and TD documents
In order to be technology neutral but accurate and testable the guidelines themselves need to be written in language that sometimes can be abstract or technical. We recognize that this can make them difficult to understand. We have spent much time trying to figure out how to make them as simple to understand as possible while keeping them accurate and clear. We have also been very careful to be sure that the guidelines themselves contain what is required. Information in the non-normative documents can never require anything that is not already required by the language in the normative document. Thus the guidelines can stand on their own in terms of 'interpretability'. However we have also created extensive support documentation to help make them easier to understand and to include examples and specific techniques for meeting them.

The Understanding WCAG documents and techniques documents will continue to evolve because technologies and user agent support continue to evolve, so that new sufficient techniques can emerge as assistive technology and other user agent support improves over time. It is important that these documents remain non-normative so that they can be changed as our collective knowledge grows.

It is very useful to read the ancillary documents to better understand the document. The ancillary materials may aid comprehension but are not in fact normative. The ancillary materials have been filled in since the time of the comment, and while not fully complete, are being republished at the same time in order to provide non-normative explanatory information to aid comprehension.
yes
LC-1021 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
Cognitive disabilities - People with cognitive disabilities are unfairly discriminated against within WCAG2. I believe this is due to the usability and testability requirements. It is generally accepted (and one chair has said so explicitly) that requirements that assist people with cognitive disabilities are often general usability techniques. Criteria that assist people with cognitive disabilities is more likely to fall foul of the requirement for testability than other criteria, simply because these criteria recommend changes to the way content is written, not how a site is coded. For example, in WCAG1 Checkpoint 14.1 - Use the clearest and simplest language appropriate for a site's content - still has no clear equivalent in WCAG2 and partiallymaps to Level 3success criteria.

Proposed Change:

Set up a specific taskforce within WCAG WG to identify success criteria that should be added to ensure WCAG2 addresses the needs of people with cognitive disabilities (I volunteer to be a part of, or to head up, this taskforce), or comply with Lisa Seeman's suggestions in her formal objection (which I have cosigned)
We have added language to the Introduction, the Conformance section, and the Quick Reference to highlight the fact that WCAG 2 only addresses some of the needs of people with cognitive, learning, and language disabilities, and to call out the need for more research in this area. WAI is exploring ways in which to support and encourage work in this important area.

We have added some best practices for cognitive, learning, and language disabilities as advisory techniques, and we have proposed 3 new success criteria in this area.
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LC-1022 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
Testability - The decision to comply with the testability requirement has outlawed some very important success criteria. This requirement has also not been applied fairly to all success criteria. Some current success criteria do not comply with the 8 out of 10 rule - for example 1.1.1. This SC requires that alternatives to non-text content "serve the same purpose and present the same information". One basic example of this is to require equivalent ALT attributes for images, but I do not believe that 8 out of 10 people would agree on the same ALT attribute for an image. For instance, in the Live in Victoria site (www.liveinvictoria.vic.gov.au) there is an image under the heading "Business Migrants". When I worked on this site, several people said this image should have a null ALT attribute as it conveyed no information. Several other people suggested ALT attributes of "A couple of business migrants chatting at work" or "Guys chatting at work". Whereas the ALT attribute that I recommended was "There is a wealth of opportunities for Business Migrants in Victoria."

Proposed Change:

Remove the requirement for testability and set up a taskforce (I volunteer to work on or head up this taskforce) to identify criteria that should be included in WCAG2. Alternatively, develop a set of supplementary guidelines that are non-testable to be used in conjunction with WCAG2.
The success criteria need to be testable or else people cannot tell when they have conformed to the success criteria and thus WCAG 2.0.

With regard to SC 1.1.1 the success criterion does not require that ALT text provided by different people be the same. WCAG 2.0 categorizes different classes of alt text and provides test procedures to help humans evaluate whether alt text satisfies the success criterion.

Advisory techniques are used to provide supplemental materials that are non-testable that can be used in conjunction with WCAG 2.0. They provide additional guidance on what can be done beyond the requirements of WCAG.
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LC-1024 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
Conformance schema - The decision to remove the design requirement from Level 1 has meant there is no appreciable difference between Level 1 and Level 2. I recall many instances where SC were moved to L2 because of this design requirement, yet I have not seen any indication that these SC are being moved back in to L1.

Proposed Change:

Merge Level 1 and Level 2 SC into one group called "Mandatory". Rename Level 3 to "Advisory" or "Optional" Alternatively set up a taskforce (which I volunteer to be a part of, or head) to review L2 and L3 SC to see if they can be moved to L1.
The working group feels that there are three categories of success criteria, so we have retained three levels of conformance. The description of conformance levels in WCAG 2 has been rewritten to clarify the levels (see http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#overview-levels ):

The word "levels" does not mean that some success criteria are more important than others. Each success criterion in WCAG 2.0 is essential to some users, and the levels build upon each other. However, even content that conforms at AAA (triple-A) may not be fully accessible to every person with a disability.

*In general, Level A success criteria achieve accessibility by supporting assistive technology while putting the fewest possible limits on presentation. Thus people with a wide range of disabilities using a wide range of assistive technologies, from voice input and eye-tracking devices to screen readers and screen magnifiers, are able to access content in different ways. In other words, Level A success criteria support the ability of both mainstream and specialized user agents to adapt content to formats that meet their users' needs.

*The success criteria in Level AA provide additional support for assistive technology. At the same time, they also support direct access to content by the many people who use conventional user agents without assistive technology. In general, Level AA success criteria place more limits on visual presentation and other aspects of content than the success criteria in Level A.

*Level AAA success criteria increase both direct access and access through assistive technology. They place tighter limits on both presentation and content.
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LC-1026 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
Conformance schema - The documents say that all success criteria are essential to people with disabilities (see WCAG 2.0 under 'Conformance' - "The WCAG WG believes that all SC ..."), however by using the WCAG1 labelling system this change is not obvious. In addition to this, the Conformance section specifically states a hierarchical nature to the to the SC in WCAG2 by defining Level 1 as "achiev(ing) a minimum level of accessibility", Level 2 as "achiev(ing) an enhanced level of accessibility" and Level 3 as "achiev(ing) additional accessibility enhancements". The Conformance section is contradictory, because in the subsequent paragraph it says "Each checkpoint in WCAG 1.0 was assigned a "priority" according to its impact on accessibility... the system of checkpoints and priorities used in WCAG 1 has been replaced...". By using the subjective terms Priority 1 / A in WCAG2, the WG is implying that there is a hierarchical nature to the SC. People are used to the WCAG1 labelling system and will assume that by following all Level A SC that they are creating an accessible web site.

Proposed Change:

Merge Level 1 and Level 2 SC into one group called "Mandatory". Rename Level 3 to "Advisory" or "Optional"
The working group feels that there are three categories of success criteria, so we have retained three levels of conformance. The description of conformance levels in WCAG 2 has been rewritten to clarify the levels. See http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#overview-levels. tocheck
LC-1031 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
Baseline - Under "Examples of People and Places setting baselines" it says baseline includes only technologies supported by "accessible and affordable user agent(s)". What is the definition of "affordable"? I believe this is advocating technology preference. For instance, if Microsoft created a proprietary technology that only worked only on IE, which came bundled with new versions of Windows, then it could be argued that that proprietary technology could be included in a baseline. The W3C should not be in the advocating anything that supports large corporations taking over the web

Proposed Change:

Remove the baseline theory, or allow only UAAG compliant programs in baseline.
The conformance section of WCAG2 has been completely rewritten. The term "baseline" has been replaced by "accessibility-supported Web technologies". The issue of what it means to be an accessibility-supported Web technology is addressed in the section "Accessibility Support of Web Technologies" at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#accessibility-support . yes
LC-1032 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
Baseline - All the reasons why the WG left the definition of baseline up to the developers (or governing bodies) could also be used as reasons why the WG have developed an updatable document on technologies with enough accessibility features to be in baseline. The fact that there are no user agents that comply with UAAG is an obvious indication that there are no technologies (yet) that are as accessible as HTML and CSS. I believe it is reckless to leave this decision up to developers or managers whose focus is on the bottom line, not on providing accessible web sites.

Proposed Change:

Develop a document, for use with WCAG2, that list suitable technologies for baseline. This document can be updated by the WG or the W3C every year.
Note that HTML and CSS are also technologies for which there are not yet fully UAAG-compliant user agents, so this doesn't seem like an argument that they are more accessible.

However, they are supported by a wider set of user agents and assistive technologies, which is why we would expect them to be considered accessibility-supported content technologies in more contexts than other technologies.

WAI will provide some examples of analyzing the user agent and assistive technology support for several Web technologies, to evaluate whether they satisfy these requirements. However, WAI is not in a position to evaluate what user agents and assistive technologies are available in different environments. We would encourage experts in those technologies in different locales to develop reference information for Web site authors.
yes
LC-1034 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
Baseline - Has the WG given any thought to people who decide to turn off technologies that could be in a baseline (eg. Javascript, Flash etc) because that is their preferred way of browsing - due to their disability? Has the WG given any thought to people who use assistive technologies that cannot interpret the output of certain technologies (eg. some screen readers cannot use javascript)?

Proposed Change:

Remove the baseline theory, or allow only UAAG compliant programs in baseline.
The working group has debated issues such as these extensively. The concept of baseline (now "accessibility-supported content technologies") grew out those struggles. If the assistive technologies that people use do not support certain technologies, then those technologies are not accessibility-supported Web technologies. However, people turning off support for technologies because they prefer not to use them is not an accessibility issue, since people without disabilities who choose to disable certain technologies will have equal difficulty accessing the content.

Your proposal is that the only technologies that can be used are those for which there exist UAAG-compliant user agents. Since there are not yet any fully UAAG-compliant user agents, this requirement would mean that there could be no WCAG-complaint content possible. And the existence of a UAAG-compliant user agent doesn't mean that users have it available to them. So requiring UAAG-compliant user agents is not a guarantee of accessibility (although WCAG would be much easier to write if it could rely on UAAG compliant user agents).
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LC-1035 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
Baseline - The theory of baseline will not stop a developer choosing an inappropriate and inaccessible baseline.

Proposed Change:

Remove the baseline theory, or allow only UAAG compliant programs in baseline.
The conformance section of WCAG2 has been completely rewritten. The term "baseline" has been replaced by "accessibility-supported Web technologies". The issue of what it means to be an accessibility-supported Web technology is addressed in the section "Accessibility Support of Web Technologies" at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#accessibility-support . yes
LC-1143 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
2.5.4: This should be a Level 1 SC. Providing assistance when filling out information is very important to people with disabilities

Proposed Change:

Move 2.5.4 to Level 1
Because assistive technology may not be able to preserve shape, size, visual location, or orientation of components when it transforms content to an alternate presentation, this success criterion has been moved to level A. tocheck
LC-1144 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
3.2.5 should be at Level 1. It is unclear to me why outlawing changes of context on user initiation is at Level 1(3.2.1) whereas this allows changes of context only on user initiation (3.2.5). They appear contradictory

Proposed Change:

Clarify the SC
SC 3.2.1 covers different situations than those covered by SC 3.2.5. SC 3.2.1 prohibits changes of context when the "user initiation" is the act of moving focus to a user component. Since levels of conformance build upon one another, this particular form of user initiation is not permitted by SC 3.2.5. However, SC 3.2.5 prohibits other types of change of context, such as notification windows opening when the user is tracking external events.

The working group believes that the ability for user agents and AT to suppress and/or notify users about pop-up windows, along with the four success criterion (3.2.1, 3.2.2 3.2.5 and 2.2.1) address the concerns about changes in context without user initiation. Because there is some functionality that cannot be supported without asynchronous changes of context, SC 3.2.5 is a level AAA success criterion.
yes
LC-539 Greg Gay <g.gay@utoronto.ca> on behalf of ATRC UofT (archived comment)
Item Number: Success Criterion 2.2.1 <-- this appears to be a typo
Part of Item:
Comment Type: GE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

I'm not sure about the distinction between 2.1.1 and 2.1.2. Does it mean if there is required time dependant content, such as a reaction time test, the web unit can not comply at level 3. This could potentially be an issues, albeit unlikely, if a site were pursuing Level 2 or 3 conformance, but had a time dependant test, for example.

Proposed Change:

In such a case I would expect an accessibility statement or statement of scope to exclude the timed test, thus rendering the guideline irrelevant to a claim of Level 2 or 3 compliance. 2.1.2 sounds like it may not be enforcable. Perhaps remove it.
It is the specific intent that timed content such as timed tests not be able to conform to this success criterion. The goal is to encourage the development of other non-time-based forms instead. yes
LC-1173 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
4.1.2 includes the phrase "available to user agents, including assistive technologies", but other criteria say "available to user agents" without the "including assistive technologies". The phrase is not strictly required since we define user agents as including assistive technologies; you may feel it's useful to re-emphasize that here, but if that's the case, wouldn't it also be warranted in those criteria that say "programmatically..." by adding "including assistive technology" to the definitions of programmatically set and programmatically determined?

Proposed Change:

Delete the phrase ", including assistive technologies", to read "For all user interface components, the name and role can be programmatically determined, values that can be set by the user can be programmatically set, and notification of changes to these items is available to user agents."
Although the definition of user agent includes assistive technologies, the definition blurs the distinction between support for users with disabilities that is provided directly by the user agent and support that is provided by an external service that interacts with a user agent that does not provide that support directly. Within WCAG, we use assistive technology to refer to the latter sort of service. We call out support for assistive technology explicitly so that programmatically determinable information is available to assistive technology, and not just to the host user agent.

In SC 4.1.2, it is a particularly important distinction for the notification of changes to user interface components. Information can be programmatically determined without requiring notification of changes. This would require constant polling of the content to notice changes. For many technologies, the host user agent is implementing the change, so it is automatically notified, but assistive technology needs explicit notification.
yes
LC-1250 Henny Swan <henny.swan@rnib.org.uk> on behalf of Royal National Institute of the Blind (archived comment)
Comment: It feels as if this is a get out clause for a site owner to make all but the most complex area of a site accessible. For example a supermarket can make everything but the online shopping accessible and stop there. It potentially allows to the site owner to get complacent once all but the most complex parts of the site have been made accessible. You can argue that laws enforcing accessibility in a country will bridge this gap of possible apathy but not all countries a) have laws, b) have the will to enforce them. Take for example China in 2008. They could build a site using technologies amount to allowing content based on Ajax i.e. to update timetables etc and leave those sections out of the conformance claims. A basic baseline has to be recommended in WCAG 2, it can't be left to legal, market and other forces from country to country. It can't claim to be a standard if there is not a minimum foundation.

Proposed Change:

This needs to be more water tight. If that section CAN be made accessible (i.e. the techniques exist to make it accessible) then it must be. If it is problematic to make accessible then a clear indication that it is being worked on placed in the conformance claim.
This comment seems to be confusing the question of baseline (that is, what technologies can be used to satisfy the success criteria) and the scope of a conformance claim (that is, which Web pages does it cover.)

WCAG conformance claims are descriptive, that is, they state which Web pages conform. To address issues such as supermarkets making everything but the on-line shopping accessible, WCAG does require that conformance claims cover complete processes: "If a Web page that is part of a process does not conform at some level, then no conformance claim is made at that level for any Web pages in that process.". However, in general, whether an entire web site conforms is a policy issue. Once we move beyond individual Web pages, it is difficult to define the boundaries of what must or must not conform.
yes
LC-1258 Henny Swan <henny.swan@rnib.org.uk> on behalf of Royal National Institute of the Blind (archived comment)
Comment: WCAG1, checkpoint is not reflected in WCAG 2. The WCAG 2 checklist states that this is because it is reflected in the techniques rather than the Success Criteria which are normative. Can be argued that 14.2 is as important to people with cognitive problems as 1.1 and alt text are to VI users. In WCAG one the former was a P3 that later a P1. It may be that because it is not testable that 14.2 hasn't carried over into WCAG 2 but it shouldn't be excluded because it is not testable as it is still a fundamental guideline for this user group. In the Introduction it states that WCAG2 is for people with cognitive and learning problems so therefore this checkpoint should be in WCAG 2.
The working group was unable to come up with a testable version of WCAG1 14.2, so that authors could determine when the supplements were needed and how to ensure that the supplements actually addressed the needs of people with cognitive disabilities. Graphic or auditory supplements are listed as sufficient techniques for SC 3.1.5

We have added language to the Introduction, the Conformance section, and the Quick Reference to highlight the fact that WCAG 2 only addresses some of the needs of people with cognitive, learning, and language disabilities, and to call out the need for more research in this area. WAI is exploring ways in which to support and encourage work in this important area.

We have added some best practices for cognitive, learning, and language disabilities as advisory techniques, and we have proposed 3 new success criteria in this area.
yes
LC-1259 Henny Swan <henny.swan@rnib.org.uk> on behalf of Royal National Institute of the Blind (archived comment)
Comment: References to secondary school in this are at best difficult and confusing for a developer to understand. This type of understanding, i.e. as defined by UNESCO, can be argued to be out of scope of the remit of the web designer to understand and as a result of it being to difficult the checkpoint perceived as woolly and therefore ignored.
The Working Group based SC 3.1.5 on an existing standard for evaluating the difficulty of text in order to bring the goals of WCAG 1.0's checkpoints 14.1 and 14.2 into a form where authors could determine when they had satisfied the success criterion. yes
LC-492 Jason White <jasonw@ariel.its.unimelb.edu.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: ED
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

Whereas guideline 2.2 is framed in terms of "time limits" on reading and interaction. criterion 2.2.1 instead uses the term "time-out". Neither "time limit" nor "time-out" is defined. This difference in terminology raises the question of whether there is meant to be a distinction between the two concepts. I don't think there is, or ought to be, such a distinction.

Proposed Change:

Use the term "time limits" in 2.2.1, in the same sense as in the text of guideline 2.2 itself. More generally, use "time limit" wherever "time-out" appears in WCAG 2.0. If appropriate, add a glossary entry to clarify the meaning of the term - I think the text of guideline 2.2 is a clear and precise formulation of what is meant.
Time-out is a specific type of time limit. Time-out is the correct term for SC 2.2.1. Time-out is a commonly understood term on the Web and we are not using it in a special way, so we don't think it needs a definition. tocheck
LC-495 Jason White <jasonw@ariel.its.unimelb.edu.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: ED
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

Should the sentence begin with "Content" or with "The content" (i.e., the content subject to WCAG 2.0 conformance)?

Proposed Change:

Change "Content" to "The content" if appropriate, making sure that it is consistent with wording used elsewhere (i.e., make the change consistently).
When the word "the" is used before a word it means that the writer is referring to the instance of this word that occurred previously. If we begin a success criterion with "the content" it would mean that we were referring to the the content in the previous sentence. This is not always true. In fact, in different places, there is a different use of the word content that preceeds it. Therefore "the content" is used before content only if the word content has already been introduced in the same sentence (or paragraph). tocheck
LC-498 Jason White <jasonw@ariel.its.unimelb.edu.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: ED
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

Under item 2, consider using "task" rather than "process", especially if my comment on "tasks and processes" is accepted. It is important to use the same word for the same purpose consistently throughout the document.

Proposed Change:

"next step in the task" rather than "in the process".
The working group agrees that WCAG should be consistent in our use of terms. However, we think that "process" is more appropriate than "task" in this case. tocheck
LC-499 Jason White <jasonw@ariel.its.unimelb.edu.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: QU
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

Should "context-sensitive help" be defined in terms of "the task, or the step in the task, currently being performed"? This would require it to be specific to the over-all task while allowing individual steps in a task to have their own help items.

If it is better to think in terms of tasks, maybe context-sensitive help should be defined accordingly.

Proposed Change:
The current wording of the definition of "context-sensitive help" neither requires nor prohibits the suggestion here. We think it is better for designers to have the flexibility to determine the most appropriate context-sensitive help for their application. tocheck
LC-504 Jason White <jasonw@ariel.its.unimelb.edu.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: GE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

The mention of "tab order" is somewhat technology-specific and should be generalized in terms of changes of focus.

Proposed Change:

Rewrite the exception about tab order in terms of a change of focus to the next component in a sequence, or in other language that is suitably general.
We have removed the mention of tab order from SC 3.2.2, so your proposal has been overtaken by events and is no longer applicable. tocheck
LC-995 Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org> on behalf of W3C/WAI, on behalf of the Education and Outreach Working Group (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: editorial
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

It is difficult to understand the logical relationship in success criteria 1.1.1, because of the \"one of the following\" phrasing.


Proposed Change:

Use the \"at least one of the following\" phrasing from 2.2.1 and 2.5.3; and check for clarity and consistency of logical relationships throughout the rest of the success criteria.
Success Criterion 1.1.1 was reworded. The bullets are now mutually exclusive, so the term "at least" is no longer necessary. yes
LC-609 Lisa Seeman 3 <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of Invited expert at W3C, UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0137.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/att-0137/wcagform3ch.html

Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

To my mind the most important aspect if predictability is exposing to the user agent what each thing is. That way the interface can be tailored to the user's access strategy. If XHTML 2 roles are known - what is main and what is secondary navigation, then the order becomes less important.

Proposed Change:

add success criteria
This requirement is covered in SC 4.1.2 "For all user interface components, the name and role can be programmatically determined, values that can be set by the user can be programmatically set, and notification of changes to these items is available to user agents, including assistive technologies" and in SC 1.3.1 "Information and relationships conveyed through presentation can be determined programmatically, and notification of changes to these is available to user agents, including assistive technologies."

While additional roles will assist with navigation, the working group does not feel the need to add an explicit navigation-related success criterion requiring these roles, since they are already covered by SC 1.3.1. The current success criteria do not preclude the use of navigational roles to improve the accessibility, and some of the techniques for these success criteria depend upon the availability of reliable role information.
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LC-953 M.F. Laughton <adio@crc.ca> on behalf of Government of Canada (archived comment)
Unfortunately, the selection form requires (or presupposes) a firmer grasp of the baseline concept than many of us have yet been able to achieve. The resulting view if a technology is used but in or not it the baseline is not as clear as we think it ought to be.

Proposed Change:

If feasible, it would be nice if any set of selections also generated a corresponding example of a conformance statement (metadata ready) and a verbal example of what that baseline means and how to interpret it (similar to the examples in "About Baselines and WCAG 2.0").
We agree but this is beyond what the Quick Reference was designed for or is capable of. We have examples in the Understanding document but do not see a way of doing this within Quick Reference.

The conformance section of WCAG2 has been completely rewritten. The term "baseline" has been replaced by "accessibility-supported Web technologies". The issue of what it means to be an accessibility-supported Web technology is addressed in the section "Accessibility Support of Web Technologies" at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#accessibility-support .
yes
LC-588 Martin Stehle <pewtah@snafu.de> (archived comment)
Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

The concept of baselines is misleading. One could define "AVI, TXT" as a valid baseline to tell his/her video collection "conform to WCAG 2.0" and can communicate the site as "accessible". To me this is senseless.

Proposed Change:

If there is a baseline, there should be a minimal requirement, at least for "HTML".
The conformance section of WCAG2 has been completely rewritten. The term "baseline" has been replaced by "accessibility-supported Web technologies". The issue of what it means to be an accessibility-supported Web technology is addressed in the section "Accessibility Support of Web Technologies" at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#accessibility-support .

WCAG 2.0 is technology neutral, so it would be inappropriate to require any specific technology, such as HTML. (We would, nevertheless, be surprised to find environments that did not consider HTML to be accessibility supported).

If a Web page relies on nothing but AVI and text, it would still need to satisfy all the WCAG success criteria for the level of conformance claimed.
yes
LC-1222 Masafumi Nakane <max@wide.ad.jp> on behalf of Keio University (archived comment)
Will these examples conform to WCAG? 1. A perfectly conforming blogsite, with comment form, and comments posted by someone breaks the conformance; 2. The page is perfectly conforming, except for a fragment of code which was provided by affiliate program of a shopping site, and the user is not allowed to modify the code either for technical reasons or for legal reasons. From the current wording of WCAG, these examples look to be not conforming to WCAG. This can limit the creativity and variety in ideas for Web content if authors are keen to meet the WCAG, or else, let many authors decide not to care too much about the conformance.

Proposed Change:

Limit the responsibility of the content creator to those Web units that are authored by the creators themselves.
We have rewritten the conformance section to clarify that WCAG is descriptive rather than prescriptive. That is, it doesn't say what should be accessible. Rather, it is a measure of accessibility. The conformances section has been rewritten to reflect this. We have removed all language about 'exceptions' so that conformance simply describes which pages conform to the Success Criteria.

We have also included an ability for authors to make a statement of partial conformance that they can use to describe the parts of a page don't or might not conform.

We have clarified the situation by removing all exceptions and adding the following at the end of the conformance section:

Note: If pages can not conform (for example, conformance test pages or example pages) they would not be included in the conformance claim.

Statement of partial conformance

Sometimes, Web pages are created that will later have additional content added to them. For example, an email program, a blog, or an article that allows users to add comments to the bottom. Another example would be a company or individual who compiles a page from multiple sources. Sometimes, the content from the other sources is automatically inserted into the page over time.

In both of these cases, it is not possible to know at the time of original posting what the content of the pages will be. Two options are available:

1. A conformance claim is made based on best knowledge. If a page of this type is monitored and kept conformant (non-conforming content is immediately removed or made conforming) then a conformance claim can be made since, except for error periods, the page is conformant. No conformance claim should be made if it is not possible to monitor or correct non-conforming content.
2. A "statement of partial conformance" is made. A statement that the page does not conform, but could conform if certain parts were removed can be made. The form of that statement would be, "This page would conform to WCAG 2.0 at level X if the following parts from uncontrolled sources were removed."
1. This "statement of partial conformance" cannot be used for content that is under the author's control.
2. The "following parts" of the page that would need to be removed would be described in terms that users can understand. (e.g. they can't be described as "all parts that we do not have control of" unless they are clearly marked as such.)
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LC-1223 Masafumi Nakane <max@wide.ad.jp> on behalf of Keio University (archived comment)
This seems to consist of 1.2.3 and 1.2.7. This structure, where meeting one success criterion automatically means meeting another, is rather confusing.

Proposed Change:

Add a clear explanation of relationship among related SCs, either in the WCAG or in the UW.
The success criteria are written as clearly as we know how. There are only two general techniques for making multimedia accessible to the blind: Audio Description (AD) and Full Text Alternatives. Either technique is acceptable for Level A WCAG 2.0 conformance. Audio Description is required for Level AA. Both techniques are required for Level AAA. This is a case where higher-level success criteria build upon the requirements of lower-level success criteria with the intention of having cumulative, progressively stronger, requirements. tocheck
LC-1227 Masafumi Nakane <max@wide.ad.jp> on behalf of Keio University (archived comment)
This structure, where meeting 1.4.3 automatically means meeting 1.4.1 is rather confusing.

Proposed Change:

Add a clear explanation of relationship among related SCs, either in the WCAG or in the UW.
We have tried to use the same format thoughout the guidelines so that it is clear that Level AAA may provide success criteria that require more accessibility than Level A. Here, the 10:1 luminosity contrast ratio at Level AAA is a stricter requirement than a 5:1 luminosity contrast ratio at Level AA. It should be clear that satisfying SC 1.4.3 satisfies SC 1.4.1. This is consistent with other WCAG 2.0 success criteria where Level AA and Level AAA success criteria are progressively more restrictive than Level A success criteria within the same guideline. For example, see SC 2.1.2 and 2.1.1. tocheck
LC-1229 Masafumi Nakane <max@wide.ad.jp> on behalf of Keio University (archived comment)
Today, there are two levels of "being keyboard operable." One is simply being able to operated without using a mouse, with simple keystrokes such as the tab and the enter keys. The other, higher level is where author uses extensive client-side scripting to provide keyboard shortcuts. (The user interface of the Gail is an example.) In the latter case, many of the keystrokes provided by the author may conflict with keyboard commands provided by the UA (including the assistive technology.) Thus, in this case, it would not make much accessibility improvement especially for those using screen readers and other AT that make extensive use of keyboard. Explanation in the WCAG and the Subdocument should be clearer about this point.
This isn't something that would be handled in the guidelines themselves. This type of topic would be handled in an application notes. We would love to write an Application Note "Enhancing Keyboard Access to Web Content" that would provide guidance on assigning hotkeys, defining logical tab order, defining hotkeys shown on buttons, and defining tab indices for text focus and search functionality. It might also discuss the topic of "number of keystrokes to perform the equivalent of one mouse action" but it won’t be able to define “comparable access� since it would differ so much based on individual abilities to point or create keystrokes. User agent support for access keys is so bad that developers have started looking for server-side solutions that allow users to define access keys (see http://juicystudio.com/article/user-defined-accesskeys.php and http://juicystudio.com/article/user-defined-access-keys-aspversion.php). If you are aware of a good paper or application note on this we would be most interested. tocheck
LC-806 Sailesh Panchang <sailesh.panchang@deque.com> on behalf of Deque Systems Inc (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: ED
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Editorial

Proposed Change:

On Glossary page for ‘role’:
Refer to \'Example: A number that indicates whether an image functions as a hyperlink, command button, or check box.\'
Editorial comment : replace ‘as’ with ‘is’
The example is grammatically correct as written. yes
LC-813 Sailesh Panchang <sailesh.panchang@deque.com> on behalf of Deque Systems Inc (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: GE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Confusing: repetition of requirements for SC at different levels
Question: Does complying with an SC at L1 automatically leads to compliance of an SC at L2?
Example: When audio descriptions for a video are provided (SC1.2.2) then SC 1.2.3 is also being complied with simultaneously, is it not?
In this context what is the difference between ‘minimum level’ and ‘enhanced level’ of accessibility? In what context ? Who decides if it is minimum or enhanced?
In the understanding WCAG 2.0 doc there are no distinctions highlighted between 1.2.2 and 1.2.3 as far as audio descriptions and level of accessibility are concerned.
Conversely, why is not the SC at L1 for GL 1.1 also listed at L2?



Proposed Change:

Do not repeat requirements at L2 if they are already listed at L1 for a guideline; and do not repeat at L3 what is already stated at L1 or L2 for a guideline.
Signed language interpretation is required only at L3 for 1.2 and this is not repeated at L1 or L2. This is how it should be.
There is no repeat of success criteria. There may be success criteria at one level that are more stringent than a similar success criteria another level.

For instance, in SCC 1.2.2 at level A, there is a choice between providing an audio description or a full text transcript. At Level AA, audio description must be provided if not already chosen as the option in Level A. At Level AAA, a full text equivalent is required if not chosen as the method for Level A.

The description of the levels has been clarified (see http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#overview-levels ):

The word "levels" does not mean that some success criteria are more important than others. Each success criterion in WCAG 2.0 is essential to some users, and the levels build upon each other. However, even content that conforms at AAA (triple-A) may not be fully accessible to every person with a disability.

*In general, Level A success criteria achieve accessibility by supporting assistive technology while putting the fewest possible limits on presentation. Thus people with a wide range of disabilities using a wide range of assistive technologies, from voice input and eye-tracking devices to screen readers and screen magnifiers, are able to access content in different ways. In other words, Level A success criteria support the ability of both mainstream and specialized user agents to adapt content to formats that meet their users' needs.

*The success criteria in Level AA provide additional support for assistive technology. At the same time, they also support direct access to content by the many people who use conventional user agents without assistive technology. In general, Level AA success criteria place more limits on visual presentation and other aspects of content than the success criteria in Level A.

*Level AAA success criteria increase both direct access and access through assistive technology. They place tighter limits on both presentation and content.
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LC-1000 Shawn Henry <shawn@w3.org> on behalf of W3C WAI (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: general comment
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Consider dropping the top numbering level. Going from three numbering levels (1.1.1.) down to two (1.1.) would make the guidelines feel less complex and less “daunting�? (quote from usability testing participant :).
Add the Principles in the supporting documents, as they do provide nice framing and grouping for the guidelines.


Proposed Change:

* Leave the Principles as they are in /TR/WCAG20. Remove the first numbering from all guidelines and success criteria, e.g.:
- Guideline 1 Provide text alternatives for all non-text content
- Success Criteria 1.1 For all non-text content, one of the following is true
* Add the Principles into “Understanding�?
* Consider including the Principles in the Quick Ref and Checklist.
The working group considered making this change to the numbering scheme. However, we felt that it is important to have a different numbering scheme between WCAG 1.0 and WCAG 2.0 since both sets of guidelines are likely to be in use in various contexts at the same time. tocheck
LC-894 Susan Lesch <lesch@w3.org> (archived comment)
Congratulations on your Last Call.

One comment that you may have received from others: If the
principles [1] were maintained outside the guidelines [2], then
the guidelines might be easier to find and comprehend. The
guidelines would then have thirteen whole numbers.

Maybe [1] could say which guidelines developed from which
principle. Below is just a text outline. I wonder if the spec
adheres to its subject -- the guidelines -- if implementers may
find the guidelines easier to follow over time.

Hope this helps.

For [1]:
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* Principle 1: Content must be perceivable (Guidelines 1-4).

* Principle 2: Interface components in the content must be
operable (Guidelines 5-9).

* Principle 3: Content and controls must be understandable
(Guidelines 10-11).

* Principle 4: Content should be robust enough to work with
current and future user agents (including
assistive technologies) (Guidelines 12-13).

For [2]:
========

* Guideline 1: Provide text alternatives for all non-text content.

* Guideline 2: Provide synchronized alternatives for multimedia.

* Guideline 3: Ensure that information and structure can be
separated from presentation.

* Guideline 4: Make it easy to distinguish foreground information
from its background.

* Guideline 5: Make all functionality operable via a keyboard
interface.

* Guideline 6: Allow users to control time limits on their reading
or interaction.

* Guideline 7: Allow users to avoid content that could cause
seizures due to photosensitivity.

* Guideline 8: Provide mechanisms to help users find content, orient
themselves within it, and navigate through it.

* Guideline 9: Help users avoid mistakes and make it easy to correct
mistakes that do occur.

* Guideline 10: Make text content readable and understandable.

* Guideline 11: Make the placement and functionality of content
predictable.

* Guideline 12: Support compatibility with current and future user
agents (including assistive technologies).

* Guideline 13: Ensure that content is accessible or provide an
accessible alternative.

[1]
http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-WCAG20-20060427/intro.html#overview-design-principles
[2] http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-WCAG20-20060427/guidelines.html

Best wishes for your project.
The working group considered making this change to the numbering scheme. However, we felt that it is important to have a different numbering scheme between WCAG 1.0 and WCAG 2.0 since both sets of guidelines are likely to be in use in various contexts at the same time. yes
LC-1322 Takayuki Watanabe, Makoto Ueki, and Masahiro Umegaki <nabe@lab.twcu.ac.jp> on behalf of JIS WG2 (archived comment)
Comment: JIS X 8341-3 also addresses the importance of volume control. It allows the users who are hard of hearing to adjust the volume of the audio. Is it unnecessary for WCAG 2.0 to require the mechanism of the audio volume control?

JIS 5.7 b) says:
<quote>
b) Sound should be controllable by users.

Information:
Hearing impaired users cannot detect that sound is being played. Also, there are cases where louder volume is preferred.

Example:
To enable users to adjust volume, play, and stop, provides controls for play, stop, and volume adjustment. When using plugins, they can be used for this purpose
</quote>
Control of volume is a user agent issue. Most players already have volume controls on them. Content, due to security issues, usually cannot directly access the hardware volume control and thus can only turn volume down not up. We therefore do not include a recommendation for content to also include a volume control, though user agents should. This belongs to the domain of User Agents and is covered in the User Agent guidelines (UAAG 1.0) which reads as follows:

"Guideline 4. Ensure user control of rendering...User agents rendering audio have to allow the user to control the audio volume globally and to allow the user to control distinguishable audio tracks."
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LC-1324 Takayuki Watanabe, Makoto Ueki, and Masahiro Umegaki <nabe@lab.twcu.ac.jp> on behalf of JIS WG2 (archived comment)
Comment: Validity check is important process to increase accessibility. "Guidelines for Different Components" (http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/components.php#guidelines) says "WAI guidelines are based on the fundamental technical specifications of the Web, and are developed in coordination with:" If WCAG does not mention to validity, readers of WCAG think WCAG WG thinks little of Web standards.

Proposed Change:

We propose to add Level 2 Success Criteria that requires validity.
The working group looked at this topic carefully over an extended period of time and concluded that requiring strict adherence to all aspects of specifications does not necessarily result in an increase in accessibility. For example, it is possible to create invalid pages that present no accessibility barriers. It is also possible in certain situations to enhance accessibility through the use of markup that is not part of the specification.

The working group must work within its charter and only include things that directly affected accessibility. Some aspects of "use technologies according to specification" and validity do relate to accessibility. However, others do not. So requiring validity would take us beyond our charter. We do recommend it though and it is our #1 technique listed for conforming to SC 4.1.1.
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LC-853 Tomoaki Kodaka <koda@pk9.so-net.ne.jp> on behalf of NTT CLARUTY CORPORATION (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: general comment
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

 The degree of the spread of audio description is different country to country.
I doubt that our situation in audio description is Level1 slightly, because the word “audio description� itself is not penetrated in my country. In Japan some volunteer groups add audio description to movies.
But it is not spread at the movie theater. It is desirable that all Web image content has audio description. But we don’t know what audio description is and how to produce it-this is our present situation. So I feel fear that image content is left out of the Web units intentionally, by we are detected Level1.It is sure that people who lost the sense of sight can’t get any information which is appeared by only animations. Images lacking in text alternatives don’t have information at all, while multimedia lacking in audio description has much information―lines, sounds and so on. When we hear the sound of train, we can guess the place is a station. We can understand people are angry or laughing by their tone.
It is fact that many blind men enjoy listening TV. Lacking in audio description is not a situation in which there is no information. But producing audio description takes time and money.Level1 is an obstacle for us. So I feel fear that image content is left out of the Scoping of conformance claims.


Proposed Change:

I hope that audio description is prescribed from Level2 and aimed at LevelAA as a following aim.
It will surely improve accessibility of image contents. I think. 
Audio description is not required at level A. Either a "full text alternative for multimedia including any interaction" *or* an audio description is sufficent. We require Audio Description at Level AA. We could not leave out Audio Description from the guidelines because they are necessary for blind people.

There are two general techniques for making multimedia accessible to the blind: Audio Description (AD) and "full text alternative for multimedia including any interaction". Either technique is acceptable for Level A WCAG 2.0 conformance. Audio Description is required for Level AA. Both techniques are required for Level AAA. This is a case where higher-level success criteria build upon the requirements of lower-level success criteria with the intention of having cumulative, progressively stronger, requirements.

Audio Descriptions were required at Priority A in the WCAG 1.0 which has been a standard since 1999 and was accepted by Keio in Japan. However, in the WCAG 2.0 we have allowed the option for "full text alternative for multimedia including any interaction" at level A.
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LC-1329 Trevor Barton <Trevor.Barton@admin.ox.ac.uk> on behalf of Web Officer, Oxford University, UK (archived comment)
Item number: 1.3.1
Comment type: Editorial

Comment: Problem of language: 'Information and relationships conveyed
through presentation can be programmatically determined, and notification
of changes to these...' To these what?

Proposed change: Clarification needed.

Item number: 3.1.6
Comment type: Editorial

Comment: What is the overlap here to UAAG?

Proposed change: What does the website developer have to do here, and what
does the UA developer have to do?
Grammatically, the word "these" refers to the information and relationships in the first clause of the success criterion, and additional wording should not be needed to clarify this. tocheck
LC-954 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
A sympathetic reading suggests what you want to mean, but this text does not say it.

As rendered, text is represented by glyphs, not Unicode characters. Unicode characters are integer index values into the catalog of characters.

And the critical property is the independence of any structure beyond the stream arrangment of the characters, as demonstrated by the fact that the character sequence is effective in conveying the intended understanding. The sequence of characters in the encoded form is not suffucient. This has been recognized and expressed by the "as rendered" language. But you need to make the cognitive effectiveness aspect of the test more overt.

When natural language is written down, it is often encoded in alphabetical writing systems or scripts. Other forms of communication such as mathematical notations and symbolic identifiers have re-used the characters, or bits and pieces of these writing systems, which have been atomized into recombinant elements by the invention of movable type.

This issue clearly illustrates the superiority of stating separate requirements on the as-rendered representation of the content and on the as-communicated representation thereof.

Proposed Change:

Try:

"Text content is content which conveys its intended meaning when rendered in a sequence of glyphs recognizable as representing the characters from some writing system.

"Content where character sequences are used to form a symbolic code to reconsrtruct media or action scripts, such as the Base64 encoding of a GIF format image, or an ECMASCRIPT imperative instruction set, are to be considered non-text content. Likewise, character sets where the glyphs must be presented in a particular two-dimensional arrangment such as ASCII art are to be considered non-text content."

Add separate encoding requirement:

Text content is to be conveyed from the author's automation to the user's automation [in accordance with | in a mannter interoperable with] the Character Model for the World Wide Web (CharMod).

Consider lifting language from the IMS accessibility metadata documents. IIRC that is where I got this concept.
The working group is trying hard to use language that is as simple as possible. We have revised the definitions of "text" and "non-text content" as follows:

text

sequence of characters that can be programmatically determined, where the sequence is expressing something in human language

non-text content

any content that is not a sequence of characters that can be programmatically determined or where the sequence is not expressing something in human language

Note: This includes ASCII Art (which is a pattern of characters) and leetspeak (which is character substitution).
yes
LC-955 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
It is hard to see how the case handled by the second sentence under the first bullet doesn't include the case stated in the second bullet.

The only difference is that in the second bullet the information is asked for in a label, and in the first case in a "text equivalent." In either case the actual requirement is that this minimal information about the non-text context item is required to be available in a way that the user knows it is about the non-text item.

The fact that information in a label need not be replicated in a substitutable text object is true here and is a vest-pocket example of equivalent facilitiation.

Proposed Change:

merge two items under the pattern of "human-understandable text explanation associated with the non-text object by a programmatically determined (i.e. machine recognizable) association."
Thank you for your comment. We have modified 1.1.1 as follows:

1.1.1 Non-text Content: Except for the situations listed below, a text alternative that presents equivalent information is provided for all non-text content.
* Controls-Input: If non-text content is a control or accepts user input, then it has a name that describes its purpose. (See also Guideline 4.1 Support compatibility with current and future user agents, including assistive technologies)
* Media-Test-Sensory: If non-text content is multimedia , live audio-only or live video-only content, a test or exercise that must be presented in non-text format , or primarily intended to create a specific sensory experience , then text alternatives at least identify the non-text content with a descriptive text label. (For multimedia, see also Guideline 1.2 Provide synchronized alternatives for multimedia.)
* CAPTCHA: If the purpose of non-text content is to confirm that content is being accessed by a person rather than a computer, then text alternatives that identify and describe the purpose of the non-text content are provided and alternative forms in different modalities are provided to accommodate different disabilities.
* Decoration-Formatting-Invisible: If non-text content is pure decoration, or used only for visual formatting, or if it is not presented to users, then it is implemented such that it can be ignored by assistive technology.
yes
LC-956 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
There is too great a leap, here. One either has to both present the same information and fulfil the same purpose or one only has to provide a nominative description of the purpose in text.

There is an important middle ground.

Proposed Change:

Make it more like the priorities in WCAG1:

The strongest requirement is that the text alternative accomplish the purpose of the non-text content it is an alternative for. The desired way to do this is to present the same information, but that lower-level agreement betweeen the alternatives is at a lower level of criticality.

Even this is not the right requirement because there needs to be recognition that the content can succeed by affording equivalent facilitation i.e. a go-path that succeeds for this user at a higher level of aggregation.
Thank you for your comment. We have modified 1.1.1 as follows:

1.1.1 Non-text Content: Except for the situations listed below, a text alternative that presents equivalent information is provided for all non-text content.
* Controls-Input: If non-text content is a control or accepts user input, then it has a name that describes its purpose. (See also Guideline 4.1 Support compatibility with current and future user agents, including assistive technologies)
* Media-Test-Sensory: If non-text content is multimedia , live audio-only or live video-only content, a test or exercise that must be presented in non-text format , or primarily intended to create a specific sensory experience , then text alternatives at least identify the non-text content with a descriptive text label. (For multimedia, see also Guideline 1.2 Provide synchronized alternatives for multimedia.)
* CAPTCHA: If the purpose of non-text content is to confirm that content is being accessed by a person rather than a computer, then text alternatives that identify and describe the purpose of the non-text content are provided and alternative forms in different modalities are provided to accommodate different disabilities.
* Decoration-Formatting-Invisible: If non-text content is pure decoration, or used only for visual formatting, or if it is not presented to users, then it is implemented such that it can be ignored by assistive technology.
yes
LC-958 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
CAPTCHAs, displays that match the "if" clause of the third bullet, can claim conformance under the first bullet by simply saying in the ALT text "image to test if you are a human." It is not just nor do I believe it is the authors' intent to open up this loophole.

Proposed Change:

Close loophole by repairing the first bullet along the lines of the previous comment.
Thank you for your comment. We have modified 1.1.1 as follows:

1.1.1 Non-text Content: Except for the situations listed below, a text alternative that presents equivalent information is provided for all non-text content.
* Controls-Input: If non-text content is a control or accepts user input, then it has a name that describes its purpose. (See also Guideline 4.1 Support compatibility with current and future user agents, including assistive technologies)
* Media-Test-Sensory: If non-text content is multimedia , live audio-only or live video-only content, a test or exercise that must be presented in non-text format , or primarily intended to create a specific sensory experience , then text alternatives at least identify the non-text content with a descriptive text label. (For multimedia, see also Guideline 1.2 Provide synchronized alternatives for multimedia.)
CAPTCHA: If the purpose of non-text content is to confirm that content is being accessed by a person rather than a computer, then text alternatives that identify and describe the purpose of the non-text content are provided and alternative forms in different modalities are provided to accommodate different disabilities.
* Decoration-Formatting-Invisible: If non-text content is pure decoration, or used only for visual formatting, or if it is not presented to users, then it is implemented such that it can be ignored by assistive technology.
yes
LC-960 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
The 'if' clauses don't belong in this construction.
I suspect what you had in mind was a cascade of elseIf clauses.

Proposed Change:

Change from OR (a.k.a. one of the following is true) of
* if A1 then B1
* if A2 then B2
* if A3 then B3
* etc.

to
OR of

* A1 and B1
* A2 and B2
* A3 and B3
* etc.
We have rewritten 1.1.1 in response many comments and we think it reads more clearly now. yes
LC-968 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
Exception for moving to next in tab order is not in agreement with customary GUI behavior that the user is accustomed to and will expect.

Proposed Change:

The baseline should be customary GUI behavior, not next in TAB order.
We have removed the exception from SC 3.2.2. Advancing to the next field in tab order is only permitted if the user has been warned in advance about this behavior. yes
LC-969 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
Requiring the explanation to be inline before the control is overly restrictive. If and where the explanation gets rendered is appropriately in the domain of the user's view and verbosity controls. Also "authored unit contains" is too narrow. What matters is that the server delivers the material to the browser.

Proposed Change:

Replace "authored unit contains instructions before the control that describe the behavior" with "the delivered information about the control includes a human-understandable explanation of the behavior that is machine-understandable to be explanatory regarding this control."

Align with requirements in 2.4.4 for links that there be human-understandable stuff bearing required information that is associated with the link or other object by an association that is understandable by the user's automation.
Because of the disorientation that can result from unexpected changes of context, the working group wants the information to be presented before the behavior is encountered. In this situation, just requiring that the information be available in a way that the user agent can provide it if the user asks for it seems too weak.

However, we have generalized the language of this success criterion to allow a more flexible set of solutions to how to inform the user.
yes
LC-978 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
unenforceably vague

Proposed Change:

"item which system feels to be in error is identified."
Thank you for your comment. We have revised SC 3.3.1 (formerly 2.5.1) as follows:

If an input error is automatically detected, the item that is in error is identified and described to the user in text.
yes
LC-979 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
Identifying the bad entry is enough so long as the entry is prompted/labeled adequately. In other words affordance of help recovering from data entry errors is good advice, but too demanding at a Level 1 success criterion standard.

Also, authors just get this wrong too easily. How many times does the text explanation say "bad password" when the error was in the username?

Error explantions should follow the culture of the desktop. If there is a screen reader in use, this is the screen reader's habits for expressing error messages. The content should define the error as formally as they can. Let the UA and AT worry the friendly message.

If the UA knows it is a type error and the type is identified, then that is enough to synthesize an error explanation in diction the user will understand in the culture of their desktop formed by their AT.

System codes would not make that error. The point is that the server refused the authentication information pair of username *and* password.

Proposed Change:

Separate identification of the bad data from explanation of how it is bad. Move explanation of nature of error to lower level. Allow satisfaction by either text message or metadata understandable by user's automation.
As per your suggestions, in the Understanding document we have added that the error should be specific as possible.

The working group does not think we should move the explanation of the nature of the error to a lower level. As a small matter of distinction, the success criterion does not require an explanation. It requires that the error is described to the user, that she be able to understand it. An explanation is a detailed description. The success criterion is not requiring a detailed description, but simply a description of the error, which is not as rigorous as an explanation of the error.

The intent section says:
"The intent of this success criterion is to ensure that users are aware that an error has occurred and can determine what is wrong."

The working group believes it is reasonable to require a description of the error at Level A, such as "error: use only numbers" for a telephone field that was filled with letters, rather than "an error has occurred" which could be confusing. A description will be necessary at Level A for many people with disabilities, including those with cognitive disabilities.

This success criterion does not prevent the use of programmatic information which can be used by assistive technology or the user agent to identify and provide error information. There must be some mechanism to provide the error information to the user with all technologies in use today and the requirement for text guarantees that. Even when provided by the assistive technology or user agent rather than the content author, the information can still be conveyed in some form of text to meet this requirement. Thus, we don't see the requirement for text as being too restrictive.
yes
LC-981 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
Navigating to another frame or page is "when an element receives focus" and is at the same time a change of context. There is an anticipated change of context in navigation acts which cause an element to receive focus. [AT can track the focus.] What you want to eliminate is surprises -- context changes that could not be predicted from the prior context in which the focus change was precipitated. So you need language that distinguishes the surprises to be avoided from the context changes that the user will anticipate.

Proposed Change:

Re-state as (roughly) "When and element receives focus, it does not have any side effects in the form of a further change of context."
We have reworded the success criterion to eliminate any ambiguity that the receiving of focus is the change of context that is not permitted. The success criterion now reads:
"SC 3.2.1 When any component receives focus, it does not initiate a change of context."
yes
LC-982 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
The definition in the Glossary makes the similarity test for things that are to be identified alike too narrow. It says identical result; that is much too narrow. This equivalence class should be made as broad as possible until it starts to degrade the user's ability to predict the system response from the prompt material. For example, context-sensitive help will be identified in the context menu simply as 'help' although the precise results are different for each context. This minimizes the vocabulary the user has to learn. The class of like-identified action opportunities defines the actual concept; the question is how the user's interpretation of the prompt material -- the concept identification -- matches this.

Proposed Change:

Move to section under the education and usability principle "repetition builds recall". In other words, address usability explicitly in the development of the set of provisons, don't just make a vague disclaimer that doesn't admit how what we do say is straight from usability, but applied to mitigating PWD risks of funtion failure, task failure or interminable task times.
We have revised the introduction text to read, "The guidelines do not include standard usability recommendations except where they have a significantly greater impact on people with disabilities than on other people." We have also changed "identical" to "same" in the definition of "same functionality".

Beyond this, we are not using usability as an organizing principle and are not addressing usability explicitly.
yes
LC-983 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
Without some restriction on what set is meant, this success criterion is meaningless. But for what you want to say, it can be fixed.

Proposed Change:

"the Web units comprising the scope of a conformance claim"
We have revised this success criterion to reference a "set of Web pages" and have included a definition for that term. yes
LC-1192 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
This clause is unenforceably vague. NLP looks at the term in context and can always produce a vector of meanings weighted with probabilities. This language gives no standard as to how well one has to have isolated one meaning before considering "meaning can be determined without [further help e.g.] pronunciation." Are you OK if the right meaning is the maximum-likelihood estimate? If it is more than 80% likely? If no other meaning is as close as half as likely? What?

Proposed Change:

merge into 3.1.3, as the relevant mechanisms are interchangeable.
SC 3.1.3 and SC 3.1.6 apply to different sets of words. SC 3.1.3 applies only to words used in an unusual or restricted way, while SC 3.1.6 applies to any words where information about pronunciation is needed.

We have revised SC 3.1.6 to read, "3.1.6 Pronunciation: A mechanism is available for identifying specific pronunciation of words where meaning is ambiguous without knowing the pronunciation."

Chinese has a number of common characters that have more than one pronunciation in Mandarin Chinese; sometimes the meaning is the same, but sometimes it is not. Dutch also has homographs; sometimes the only difference is words stress (examples at http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homograaf). For Japanese, there may be no need to specify the meaning of a name written using Han characters, but there may be a need to provide the pronunciation.

While the same mechanism may be used to satisfy both SC 3.1.3 and SC 3.1.6, weaker mechanisms may suffice. There are sufficient techniques for SC 3.1.6 that would not be sufficient for SC 3.1.3, e.g., providing the pronunciation immediately following the word.
yes
LC-1193 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
Clause is trivially vague. It will either be satisfied or inapplicable, because there is no standard for what set of Web units is pertinent.

Proposed Change:

Introduce concepts of breadcrumb trail as vertical thread through topic categories from here to home and task-phase bar as steps in a sequential process. If one is in a sequential process, need latter to get credit; else former. Because of former, never 'not applicable.' Location within site is always applicable and desirable.
We have revised the success criterion and have added a definition to the glossary for "set of Web pages." We have also modified the description of G128: "Indicating current location within navigation bars" to clarify that this technique is particularly appropriate for sequential tasks. yes
LC-1194 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
These provisions belong under principle 3. Their domain is the understanding of action opportunities, not whether or not the user can activate them.

Proposed Change:

Reorganize. See comments elsewhere on organization.
We have moved moved Guideline 2.5 to Principle 3. It is now Guideline 3.3. yes
LC-1196 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
Sub-case 1 is by definition not applicable. If the action is reversable, then the user action does not cause i.e. commit to the transaction.

Sub-case 2 is insufficient. Having the system check for a subset of the system's concerns is in no way an indication of the user's informed consent to commit the transaction.

Sub-case 3 is the requirement.

Proposed Change:

Eliminate OR and leave the "opportunity to review" provision only.

Make a note that if the transaction is reversible then the review is required before the subsequent commit transaction, but that this test is not required at the interim step.
To address your concern with the first bullet we have updated it to require that transactions are reversible rather than actions. The working group believes that the second bullet is important for complicated transactions where it might not be appropriate to review all data in the final step and thus has retained that option. We have updated the wording of the second bullet. The third bullet has been rewritten to make it clear that the user has the opportunity to review the results being submitted before confirming the transaction.

We have revised the list in this section as follows:

1. Transactions are reversible.
2. Submitted data is checked for input errors before going on to the next step in the process.
3. A mechanism is available for reviewing, confirming, and correcting information before finalizing the transaction.
yes
LC-1197 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
is too narrow

Proposed Change:

"for any input where the possible inputs are more varied than five to nine well-known choices"
We have revised this success criterion to read, "3.3.5 Help: Context-sensitive help is available." However, the group felt that help could be needed and should be provided for a wider range of choices than just "greater than five." yes
LC-1199 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
The role of User Agents is underdeveloped in this document, and the effectiveness of the document suffers.

There is a whole missing principle of "different strokes for different folks."

It is not enough to say "people have to perceive the presentation of information." The encoding or representation of the information in that rendered view must be recognizable. The success criterion is in terms of cognition, not perception.

Further, there is no "one size fits all" presentation that affords a functional user experience for all people. So the fundamental requirement is one of personalization: that the same information can be presented and accepted in diversified look-and-feel variants to reach all the people.

The User Agent doesn't just render the display and process user input events. It also affords the user view-management funtions such as navigation within the document and presentation property profiling. These are managed between the user and the user agent. Sometimes it is not easy to make the rendering transform plastic enough to enable use by all users, and the server has to offer content choices to achieve the full range of under which the web content and/or service is available.

Proposed Change:

Clearly represent that the guidelines set out in this document apply to the data passing through the network interface, not the signals passing through the user interface.

Explain the requirements here (in this document, not a companion note) starting with User Interface requirement, but transformed by the capabilities and needs of User Agents.
The 'Components of Web Accessibility' section of the introduction now contains:

It is important to note that Web content is just one aspect of accessibility. Just as important as accessible Web content is the availability of accessible browsers (and other user agents) that can adapt and present the content in the best form for the user. Accessible Web technologies and accessible tools for creating Web content are also important. For an overview of the different components of accessibility and how they work together see:

* Essential Components of Web Accessibility - Explains how the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines work with the other WAI guidelines and with assistive technologies to provide access to the Web by people with disabilities.
* User Agent Accessibility Guidelines (UAAG) Overview - Introduces guidelines on the design of accessible Browsers and other user agents.
* Authoring Tool Accessibility Guidelines (ATAG) Overview - Introduces guidelines on the design of authoring and evaluation tools.
yes
LC-1200 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
"content is perceivable" is an oxymoron. The two are not comparable. The rendering is perceivable. In the rendering, the content must be recognizable.
Principles are not a technical provisions, but something to provide a gestalt. We have changed them to a certain extent but we want them to be short slogans that are easily remembered and understood as overarching principles.

They now read:

1. Perceivable - Information and user interface must be perceivable by the user.

2. Operable - User interface components must be operable by the user.

3. Understandable - Information and operation of user interface must be understandable by the user.

4. Robust - Content must be robust enough that it can be interpreted reliably by a wide variety of user agents, including assistive technologies.
yes
LC-1201 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
It doesn't work until the content is re-united with an adapted presentation.

Proposed Change:

change to:
Ensure that presentation can be adapted while preserving content.

Alternate language:
Enable personalization of presentation.
Guideline 1.3 has been reworded to reflect adaptation of presentation. Separation of content and presentation would be a technique for this. yes
LC-1203 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
"content is perceiveable" is an oxymoron; the content may be unrecognizable if the features of the rendered presentation are not perceivable, but perceivable features are not an independent principle, they are just a possible failure mode for the success which is understanding what was being represented in the rendered content.

Understanding is an independent requirement, perception is an instrumentality. Compare with how people can frequently read text where all but the first and last letters of each word are obscured beyond recognition. This rendered content would flunk a 'perceivable' test but pass a 'recognizable' test thanks to the inherent redundancy of natural language.

The whitespace between glyphs is either perceivable or not perceivable. The functional requirement if the glyphs are spelling some natural langugage is that the user be able to recognize the natural language represented by the glyphs in the rendered content. The term 'recognizable' is a significantly better fit to the requirement, here, as opposed to 'perceivable.

Proposed Change:

Change to [words to the effect that]

"information is recognizable in the rendered content at the user interface -- a) [best] as configured to be presented by the author and server b) [good] as presented in a delivery context where the user employs readily-achievable adjustments to the look and feel or c) [OK when that's all that works] c) as available in a readily discovered and followed alternate path through the content."
Principles are not a technical provisions, but something to provide a gestalt. We have changed them to a certain extent but we want them to be short slogans that are easily remembered and understood as overarching principles.

They now read:

1. Perceivable - Information and user interface must be perceivable by the user.

2. Operable - User interface components must be operable by the user.

3. Understandable - Information and operation of user interface must be understandable by the user.

4. Robust - Content must be robust enough that it can be interpreted reliably by a wide variety of user agents, including assistive technologies.
yes
LC-1211 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
What is this language trying to say? Do you mean MUST NOT? Editorial: CANNOT would be appropriate for an observation as to what is feasible in the medium. This is a remark as to what the author believes is appropriate in this genre.

It is also neither an accessibility issue nor is it always a good idea.

Compare this with the language in Success Criterion 1.1.1 where there are specific provisions for a case where the whole purpose of the site is some sort of sensory or perceptual effect or test. In that case the content is allowed to be explained but not accorded universally accessible equivalent facilitation. In the case of such content, such as the tester for Daltonism, it would be both appropriate and polite to mention that this web presence is intended for those with substantial visual acuity to evaluate their color perception.

Proposed Change:

Strike the remark.
The remark has been removed. yes
LC-1212 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
This is not adequate reproducibility to be the basis of W3C-recommended interoperability. If the test points don't repeatably produce the desired outcome with lay testers, the statement of the criteria is too arcane for the Web with its millions of authors.

Proposed Change:

(1) Define,
(2) take through the W3C Recommendation process, and
(3) make conformance rely on: more-concrete testable assertions.
We have removed the reference to "people who understand WCAG". We agree that it should require no understanding that is not available from the guidelines and supporting documentation to determine whether the guidelines have been satisfied. yes
LC-1214 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
What is a process in terms of WCAG conformance is unenforceably vague, and at least in terms of the first example given, unfairly narrow.

Shopping generally progresses through browse, select, and checkout phases. Only the checkout is a rigidly serialized process. And on some sites you can get live assistance by which you could place your order by chat. So using a whole shopping site as an example of a 'process' which is subject to an "all or none" accessibility rule is unduly severe.

Proposed Change:

Include an accounting for equivalent facilitation separate from the individual testable hypotheses and integrated into the rollup of conformance assessment. (see next)

You might want to remark that it's not cool for a shopping site to claim conformance for a subset of the site that doesn't let people complete a purchase. But don't try to fold that policy value judgement into a W3C technical report. Let the latter be technical.
We have included two provisions in the rewritten conformance section to deal with these issues.

4.) Alternate Versions: If the Web page does not meet all of the success criteria for a specified level, then a mechanism to obtain an alternate version that meets all of the success criteria can be derived from the nonconforming content or its URI, and that mechanism meets all success criteria for the specified level of conformance. The alternate version does not need to be matched page for page with the original (e.g. the alternative to a page may consist of multiple pages). If multiple language versions are available, then conformant versions are required for each language offered.


9.) Complete processes: If a Web page that is part of a process does not conform at some level, then no conformance claim is made at that level for any Web pages in that process.

Example: An online store has a series of pages that are used to select and purchase products. All pages in the series from start to finish (checkout) must conform in order to claim conformance for any page that is part of the sequence.

We have also added the following definition for "process."

process

series of user actions where each action is required in order to complete an activity

Example 1: A series of Web pages on a shopping site requires users to view alternative products and prices, select products, submit an order, provide shipping information and provide payment information.

Example 2: An account registration page requires successful completion of a Turing test before the registration form can be accessed.
yes
LC-1216 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
This clause is overly restrictive. The authors appear to be fixated on people writing public policy for the public web. There are other use cases which support cherry-picking requirements with full selectivity.

One of these use cases is where a web development organization is subcontracting for media fragments -- icons and background images or the like -- from a subcontractor and writes a standard for acceptable data packages which requires metadata to go with each including provenance, sample ALT text, etc. In this case there is no reason that the customer organization should have to require all of Level A on the piece parts purchased from the subcontractor -- the purchasor will take care of the other aspects before putting the assembled web content out on the web. This requirement as now stated would make that a violation of the Recommendation.

Proposed Change:

Soften the language from an imperative to a Recommendation.

Don't say "you mustn't cite arbitrary subsets," but rather say "if you cite only a subset of the Level 1 Success Criteria, don't represent this as WCAG 2.0 Conformance."

-- alternate wording...

W3C does not regard satisfying a profile of success criteria that does not contain all the Level One success criteria to merit the term "conformance to WCAG 2.0"

Unless a specification or policy requires at least conformance to all Level 1 Success Criteria, do not represent that policy or specification as implementing WCAG 2.0 conformance.
We have made conformance claims less regulatory and more descriptive, that is, a conformance claim describes what is conformant to the guidelines. We think it is more appropriate for policy makers to determine appropriate exceptions.

We have taken your suggestion and addressed the issue by making it explicit that Level A is the minimum level for which WCAG 2 conformance can be claimed:

For level A conformance (the minimum level of conformance), the Web page satisfies all the Level A success criteria, or the page satisfies conformance requirement 4.
yes
LC-664 Alan Sparkes <slipsy@gmail.com> on behalf of none (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: GE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

I am greatly disturbed my the disparaging comments i have read here:http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/05/26/wcag-20-is-broken-leave-your-comments-now/
A quick scan of the document or quotes from it certainly adds evidence to the idea that there is really a corporate law suit protection agenda going on. In the UK we have a campaign body called plain english who award government and organisations for their clear use of language. My quick scan shows a woefully unclear use of language compared to version 1.0.

Please listen up to the more considered opinions you will be hearing / have heard.

Proposed Change:

revert to 1.0!
We have reworked the entire document to make it shorter and easier to read. This includes:
- Shortening the introduction
- Moving much of the discussion out of the guidelines and puttin it in the Understanding WCAG 2.0 document
- Shortening the conformance section and moving it after the guidelines
- Writing simpler guidelines
- Removing as many technical terms (jargon) as possible, replacing them with simpler language or their definitions
- Removing the nesting of definitions where we could (i.e. definitions that pointed to other definitions)
- Moving information about mapping between WCAG 1 and WCAG 2 to a separate support document (so it can be updated more easily)
- Creating a Quick Reference documents that has just the Guidelines, success criteria and the techniques for meeting the success criteria.
- Trying to word things in manners that are more understandable to different levels of Web expertise
- Adding short names/handles on each success criterion to make them easier to find and compare etc.
- Simplifying the conformance section
- Using plainer language wherever possible (e.g. – use “Web page� instead of “Web Unit�)
- Eliminating several new or unfamiliar terms. (authored unit, etc.)
- Making the whole document much shorter.
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LC-1437 Alastair Campbell <ac@alastairc.ac> on behalf of Nomensa ltd (archived comment)
W2
1.5 (missing)
Intent,
Description,
Examples

I cannot find anything on relative sizing of fonts or layout, at all. (Also noted in other comments.) I believe these are important aspects for accessible computers in general as well as the Internet, for anyone with a mild to moderate visual impairment.

* The most common user agent Internet Explorer (installed on many corporate networks) does not allow the resizing of pixel sized fonts. Nor does the version 7(b3) update. (It does include 'zoom', but this causes horizontal scrolling on any currently accessible site).
* Proper 'zooming' is not generally available yet (although some are working on it.)
* Fixed width/height layouts suffer from a similar problem, partly because they often do not react well to increases in font size. There are some basic layout guidelines for HTML/CSS websites.
* It is applicable to all screen technologies. For example, Flash scales well, but is often trapped in a fixed size window. Acrobat has re-flow & scaling. Other new technologies should be required to scale well.

Relative fonts or layout may be covered in the techniques (although not when I last searched), but I believe it should be part of the normative document (level 2 success criteria).

Proposed Change:

Include a revised version of WCAG 1.0's checkpoint 3.4, example included below. The font aspects could be added to 1.3, but it does not seem a natural fit.

Guideline 1.5 Use scalable fonts and layout
Level 1 Success Criteria for Guideline 1.5

(No level 1 success criteria for this guideline.)
Level 2 Success Criteria for Guideline 1.5

1.5.1 text sizing should be specified in a unit that is user re-sizable. The interface should be perceivable and operable with text increased to a 200% size.

1.5.2 the layout of the page should allow for a variety of screen resolutions and sizes by using relative units for the primary layout areas, such as overall layout, and content area.

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Somewhat short, rough and ready, but I can expand on this if the concept is agreeable. This article on basic layout guidelines (http://alastairc.ac/2006/05/accessible-layouts/) could provide inspiration for the CSS techniques.
Although resizing is primarily a user agent function, we have added new success criteria to address the author's responsibility for supporting text resizing:

SC 1.4.4 (Level AA): Visually rendered text can be resized without assistive technology up to 200 percent and down to 50 percent without loss of content or functionality.

SC 1.4.7 (Level AAA): Visually rendered text can be resized without assistive technology up to 200 percent and down to 50 percent without loss of content or functionality and in a way that does not require the user to scroll horizontally.
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LC-926 Andi Snow-Weaver <andisnow@us.ibm.com> on behalf of IBM (archived comment)
Definition of "programmatically determined" is confusing.

Proposed Change:

Proposal for definition of ""programmatically determined"":

""available through content markup (element name, attributes, or properties) or style sheet properties in the case of markup languages or through accessibility APIs in the case of GUI applications.

Note: User agents can extract this information from content markup and style sheet properties and make it available to an assistive technology through programmatic means such as through the DOM or accessibility API. Accessibility APIs may be defined by the technology owner or in a publicly documented alternative recognized as explicitly supporting accessibility.
We have not changed the definition to distinguish between markup and non-markup languages, but we have added several examples to the definition to highlight the use of direct access and access via accessibility APIs. yes
LC-927 Andi Snow-Weaver <andisnow@us.ibm.com> on behalf of IBM (archived comment)
The term "parsed unambiguously" is difficult to understand.

Proposed Change:

Change 4.1.1 to ""The structure of and relationships within web units and authored components can be determined without the need for user agents or assistive technologies to perform error correction.""

Eliminate the term ""parsed unambiguously"".
To make this requirement easier to understand, we have reworded SC 4.1.1 to clarify that it must be possible to parse content without the need for user agent repair. The revised SC reads as follows:

4.1.1 Content implemented using markup languages has elements with complete start and end tags, except as allowed by their specifications, and are nested according to their specifications. (Level A)

Note: Start and end tags that are missing a critical character in their formation, such as a closing angle bracket or a mismatched attribute value quote are not complete.
yes
LC-928 Andi Snow-Weaver <andisnow@us.ibm.com> on behalf of IBM (archived comment)
This does not address advertisements which can also be an issue for people with disabilities. There should be a method to skip content that is not relevant to the page or site content.

Proposed Change:

Change 2.4.1 to ""A mechanism is available to bypass blocks of content that are repeated on multiple Web units or that are not relevant to the page or site content.""

Alternative proposal: Add an advisory technique to How to meet GL 2.4 or How to meet SC 2.4.1.
We have added an advisory technique to GL 2.4 to provide mechanisms for navigating to different sections of the content. yes
LC-930 Andi Snow-Weaver <andisnow@us.ibm.com> on behalf of IBM (archived comment)
Dynamic Web Accessibility allows for an object to have multiple relationships (group, flowto, controlledby). This introduces a situation where the author has more than one possible path to follow. Simple tabbing will not be enough.

Proposed Change:

Change 2.4.6 to ""Components in a Web unit or authored component receive focus in an order that follows relationships and sequences in the content.""

Add an XHTML technique that demonstrates using Dynamic Web Content Accessibility ""group"", ""flowto"" and ""controlledby"" states to How to meet 2.4.6
Removing the notion of sequential navigation from the success criterion leaves it ambiguous. We have added explanation to the Intent Section to clarify that there may be many possible orders that satisfy the success criterion. yes
LC-932 Andi Snow-Weaver <andisnow@us.ibm.com> on behalf of IBM (archived comment)
"Form control" is too technology specific. With DHTML, authors can create interactive controls that are not "form controls". Also, tabbing is too specific. Keyboard navigation is not limited to tabbing. Arrow keys can also be used.

Proposed Change:

Change 3.2.2 to "Changing the setting of any interactive control or field does not automatically cause a change of context (beyond moving to the next field in the navigation sequence), unless the authored unit contains instructions before the control that describe the behavior."
We have updated the wording of 3.2.2. It now reads, "Changing the setting of any user interface component does not automatically cause a change of context unless the user has been advised of the behavior before using the component." yes
LC-933 Andi Snow-Weaver <andisnow@us.ibm.com> on behalf of IBM (archived comment)
The title for principle 4 does not fit the requirements. Also, future user agents may not render the old content. The principle just does not make sense.

Proposed Change:

Change principle 4 to "Content must be interoperable with assistive technologies."
We have revised Principle 4 to fit the requirements more accurately. yes
LC-935 Andi Snow-Weaver <andisnow@us.ibm.com> on behalf of IBM (archived comment)
Repurposed widgets require the user to have state information as well. For example, if a <div> is used to make a checkbox you would need to know if it were checked or not. States, properties, and values need to be programmatically determinable.

Proposed Change:

Change 4.1.2 to "For all user interface components, the name and role can be programmatically determined, states, properties, and values that can be set by the user can programmatically determined and set, and notification of changes to these items is available to user agents, including assistive technologies."
The success criterion has been updated as proposed. It now reads:

For all user interface components, the name and role can be programmatically determined; states, properties, and values that can be set by the user can be programmatically determined and programmatically set; and notification of changes to these items is available to user agents, including assistive technologies.
yes
LC-1264 Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@visionaustralia.org> on behalf of Vision Australia (archived comment)
Comment: Why do we need to say that Triple-A only requires conformance to a portion of the level 3 SC? This was the case in WCAG 1 at all levels and we just used to say NA (not applicable) for a checkpoint if there was no multimedia or no frames etc. This particularly relates to the later section suggesting that only 50% of level 3 SC need to be met to claim Triple-A

Proposed Change:

rephrase this Note to specify that not all level 3 SC might apply, and a web unit only needs to conform to the applicable ones to claim triple-A conformance
We have changed the definition of Level AAA conformance so that all Level AAA success criteria that apply to the content types used must be satisfied. yes
LC-1266 Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@visionaustralia.org> on behalf of Vision Australia (archived comment)
Comment: para 3 - "... all SC are essential for some people". However, the previous para indicates that Level 1 is sufficient to provide a minimum level of accessibility. This is contradictory.

Proposed Change:

address the contradiction
The description of conformance levels in WCAG 2 has been rewritten to clarify the differences (see http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#overview-levels ):

The word "levels" does not mean that some success criteria are more important than others. Each success criterion in WCAG 2.0 is essential to some users, and the levels build upon each other. However, even content that conforms at AAA (triple-A) may not be fully accessible to every person with a disability.

* In general, Level A success criteria achieve accessibility by supporting assistive technology while putting the fewest possible limits on presentation. Thus people with a wide range of disabilities using a wide range of assistive technologies, from voice input and eye-tracking devices to screen readers and screen magnifiers, are able to access content in different ways. In other words, Level A success criteria support the ability of both mainstream and specialized user agents to adapt content to formats that meet their users' needs.

* The success criteria in Level AA provide additional support for assistive technology. At the same time, they also support direct access to content by the many people who use conventional user agents without assistive technology. In general, Level AA success criteria place more limits on visual presentation and other aspects of content than the success criteria in Level A.

* Level AAA success criteria increase both direct access and access through assistive technology. They place tighter limits on both presentation and content.
yes
LC-1267 Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@visionaustralia.org> on behalf of Vision Australia (archived comment)
Comment: para 4 - "When people who understand WCAG 2.0 test the same content using the same success criteria, the same results should be obtained with high inter-rater reliability". More than just an understanding of WCAG 2.0 is required - these people also need an understaning of how PWD interact with the web, with or without assistive technologies.

Proposed Change:

add something extra to the qualifications that WCAG 2.0 testers are required to have to obtain the same results.

Also suggest changing "high inter-rater reliability" to "high inter-tester reliability"
The qualifications to be a WCAG 2.0 tester are not formalized, and the quantification of knowledge skills and abilities to do so is beyond the scope of this document. We do agree that a qualified individual should have background in disability and not just the web.

We have revised the conformance section significantly since the April 2006 working draft. The sentence related to your comment, in http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#overview-sc, now reads:

"The same results should be obtained with a high level of confidence when people who understand how people with different types of disabilities use the Web test the same content."
yes
LC-1269 Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@visionaustralia.org> on behalf of Vision Australia (archived comment)
Comment: para 2 - User agents not only "help in retrieving and rendering Web content", but also in interacting with web content

Proposed Change:

change sentence to "help in retrieving, rendering and interacting with Web content"
This sentence no longer occurs in the introduction. However, we have changed the definition of user agent in the glossary as you proposed. yes
LC-1270 Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@visionaustralia.org> on behalf of Vision Australia (archived comment)
Comment: para 1 - "assume" is dangerous - they need to "know" the technologies "are" supported.

Proposed Change:

change sentence from "authors need to know what technologies they can assume will be supported by" to "authors need to know what technologies are supported by"
We agree that the use of "assume" was open to misinterpretation. We have changed the wording to read:

In choosing Web technologies (HTML, scripting, etc.) that will be used when creating content that will meet the WCAG 2.0 success criteria, authors must use technologies that are supported by users' assistive technologies as well as the accessibility features in browsers and other user agents. Such technologies are referred to as "accessibility supported."
yes
LC-1273 Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@visionaustralia.org> on behalf of Vision Australia (archived comment)
Comment: Examples of scenarios do not seem realistic - what happened to Banks, News sites, Supermarkets, etc providing private services online or selling goods online?

Proposed Change:

more examples are needed - or relegate the examples to the "About Baseline" accompanying document
The concept of baselines has been completely rewritten. WCAG now discusses accessibility-supported web technologies (i.e. technologies that are used to create content that work with users' assistive technologies and access features in browsers):
"In choosing Web technologies (HTML, scripting, etc.) that will be used when creating content that will meet the WCAG 2.0 success criteria, authors must use technologies that are supported by users' assistive technologies as well as the accessibility features in browsers and other user agents. Such technologies are referred to as "accessibility supported."

So the question becomes "What technologies are considered accessibility supported for public web pages?", that is, web pages for which the author has no special knowledge about what user agents and assistive technologies are available to users.

To answer this, one would need need:
1. Accessibility support analyses for candidate technologies, documenting the user agent (browser and assistive technology) support for that technology.
2. Analysis of browser and assistive technology available to users.

Ideally, this information would be gathered in a publicly available location that could be consulted by anyone creating a public website. Until such a database is available, it may be necessary for authors to consult with knowledgeable sources for advice.
yes
LC-1274 Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@visionaustralia.org> on behalf of Vision Australia (archived comment)
Comment: In the discussion of baseline and conformance, it seems that there is potential for misuse of baseline [e.g.
authors might be able to just declare their own level of technology, for instance: "requires CSS2 and JavaScript 1.2." The actual/potential audience, not just perceived/target audience or what developers wish they could reply on, should define baseline.

W3C/WAI should consider setting realistic excample baslines for 'everyday' websites in developed/LD countries.

Proposed Change:

Some possible strategies include:

a) to give guidance on what is a realistic baseline for most Internet sites
today, W3C should publish a 'reasonable/realistic' baseline recommended for a general audience;
b) update this 'recommended' baseline annually;
c) place the 'recommended' baseline outside of the WCAG 2.0 normative document;
d) provide an explanation about why the particular baseline is recommended
The conformance section of WCAG2 has been completely rewritten. The term "baseline" has been replaced by "accessibility-supported web technologies". The issue of what it means to be an accessibility-supported web technology is addressed in the discussion of the term "Accessibility Supported" in http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#new-terms and in the conformance section "Accessibility Support of Web Technologies" at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#accessibility-support . yes
LC-1275 Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@visionaustralia.org> on behalf of Vision Australia (archived comment)
Comment: I disagree with allowing 50% conformance as sufficient for a AAA pass - we should take the same approach as WCAG 1.0 and require all checkpoints to be passed unless they are 'not applicable'. This approach still works with the concept that not all level 3 SC will apply to all web content.

Proposed Change:

change from 50% to "100% unless not applicable"
We have changed the definition of Level AAA conformance so that all Level AAA success criteria that apply to the content types used must be satisfied. tocheck
LC-1279 Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@visionaustralia.org> on behalf of Vision Australia (archived comment)
Comment: para 1 says thaty WCAG 2.0 makes web content available to a wide range of disabilities, including "blindness and low vision, deafness and hearing loss, learning difficulties, cognitive limitations, limited movement, speech difficulties, and others". It seems that learning difficulties and cognitive limitations are not addressed to any significant extent, in fact even less than WCAG 1.0. It seems the emphasis is even more on 'blindness and low vision' and 'limited movement'. THis may be becasue the strong move to testability, but given that this is the case, then lets not kid everyone (or no-one) that WCAG 2.0 address all disabilities.

Proposed Change:

change wording to leave these out at this stage. Seriously consider the next task for the working group to be to properly address the needs of these groups with suplement or addenda to WCAG 2.0 (or release as a WCAG 2.1)
We have added language to the Introduction, the Conformance section, and the Quick Reference to highlight the fact that WCAG 2 only addresses some of the needs of people with cognitive, learning, and language disabilities, and to call out the need for more research in this area. WAI is exploring ways in which to support and encourage work in this important area.

We have added some best practices for cognitive, learning, and language disabilities as advisory techniques, and we have proposed 3 new success criteria in this area.
yes
LC-1280 Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@visionaustralia.org> on behalf of Vision Australia (archived comment)
Comment: Many SC seem out of place at their specified levels. It seems many SC Levels have not been reconsidered since the November 2005 release whe the levels related to 'coding', 'design/appearance' and 'additional'. As this is no longer the basis for the Levels, then the SC need to be more closely re-examined as to the appropriate level they should fall under.

Proposed Change:

re-examine all SC in the light of the April 2006 Conformance Level definitions (cf Nov 2005 Levels definitions)
The description of conformance levels in WCAG 2 has been rewritten to clarify the levels, and we have reviewed the level of the success criteria for appropriateness:

The word "levels" does not mean that some success criteria are more important than others. Each success criterion in WCAG 2.0 is essential to some users, and the levels build upon each other. However, even content that conforms at AAA (triple-A) may not be fully accessible to every person with a disability.

*In general, Level A success criteria achieve accessibility by supporting assistive technology while putting the fewest possible limits on presentation. Thus people with a wide range of disabilities using a wide range of assistive technologies, from voice input and eye-tracking devices to screen readers and screen magnifiers, are able to access content in different ways. In other words, Level A success criteria support the ability of both mainstream and specialized user agents to adapt content to formats that meet their users' needs.

* The success criteria in Level AA provide additional support for assistive technology. At the same time, they also support direct access to content by the many people who use conventional user agents without assistive technology. In general, Level AA success criteria place more limits on visual presentation and other aspects of content than the success criteria in Level A.

*Level AAA success criteria increase both direct access and access through assistive technology. They place tighter limits on both presentation and content."
yes
LC-1284 Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@visionaustralia.org> on behalf of Vision Australia (archived comment)
Comment: "variations in presentation of text can be programmatically determined." - yes, a graphical browser can display italicised text, but not much, if any, AT can determine its existance.

Proposed Change:

reconsider/clarify/strengthen this SC, or drop the last part.
SC 1.3.1 and 1.3.4 have been combined to read "Information and relationships conveyed through presentation can be programmatically determined or are available in text, and notification of changes to these is available to user agents, including assistive technologies." This wording ensures that it is the meaning conveyed by the presentation that must be programmatically determined, and allows the author to indicate the meaning in text if it is not feasible to do so programmatically. The How to Meet document describes this in some detail.

Currently, many assistive technologies can determine the existence of variations in presentation, albeit with minimal usability. It is the information conveyed that is required by this success criterion. The information needs to be conveyed in a usable manner.
yes
LC-1289 Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@visionaustralia.org> on behalf of Vision Australia (archived comment)
Comment: Under the new Conformance level definitions, I strongly suggest that 2.4.3 should be a Level 1 SC & that 2.4.5 should be a Level 2 SC

Proposed Change:

adjust the levels of 2.4.3 & 2.4.5
We have added "descriptive" to SC 2.4.2 (formerly SC 2.4.3) and moved it to level A.

SC 2.4.6 (formerly 2.4.5) has been moved to Level AA. It addresses descriptive headings and labels, which may need to be understood in context. While headings may not have sufficient descriptive power in isolation, when viewed in the context of a structured document, they do have sufficient descriptive power.
yes
LC-1291 Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@visionaustralia.org> on behalf of Vision Australia (archived comment)
Comment: title alone will not make a page understandable - they need to be clear and understandable, and unique (within the site or subsite)

Proposed Change:

reword 2.4.3, e.g. "Web units have understandable/clear and unique titles."
We have changed SC 2.4.2 (formerly 2.4.3) to "Web pages have descriptive titles" and have also reflected this change in success criterion 2.4.6 (formerly 2.4.5) and support documents for both success criteria.

The success criterion does not require that titles be unique because the working group is concerned that requiring uniqueness will lead to titles that are not as descriptive and usable. It may be very difficult to create titles that are descriptive, unique, and reasonably short. For example, a Web unit that generates titles dynamically based on its content might need to include part of the dynamic content in the title to ensure that it was unique. We are also concerned that authors may make titles unique mechanically, such as by including a unique number in the title that is unrelated to the content. For these reasons, although we encourage unique titles in the techniques for this success criterion, we are not including uniqueness in the success criterion itself.
yes
LC-1292 Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@visionaustralia.org> on behalf of Vision Australia (archived comment)
Comment: currently just "Providing skip links to enhance page navigation" - this needs to be specified as a visible means of being able to identify and utilise the ability to skip links

Proposed Change:

Strengthen this technique so that sighted, but physically disabled, people can utilise the link
This issue has been discussed by the working group many times. Providing skip links that are visible is one instance that satisfies 2.4.1 (A mechanism is available to bypass blocks of content that are repeated on multiple web pages), but is not required. Providing visible skip navigation links was considered a difficult requirement for all content at Level A because of the potential for visual clutter making content harder to understand. However, the Working Group recognizes the importance of visible skip navigation for switch users, those using techniques that generate keyboard strokes slowly and others, and have changed the Example 2 in G1 to reflect this. A note has been added which says "NOTE: When possible, a visible link is preferred over a hidden link. Visible links are necessary for those navigating with a keyboard including switch users, those using techniques that generate keyboard strokes slowly, screen magnification software users, screen reader users working with sighted collegues, keyboard only users and those navigating using voice recognition software." yes
LC-1294 Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@visionaustralia.org> on behalf of Vision Australia (archived comment)
Comment: The Guideline says "Help users avoid mistakes ..." - none of the SC appear to address this aspect. THey all seem to relate to the second part "... make it easy to correct mistakes that do occur". Surely recommendations such as linear form design, clear and understanable labels, placing examples before the form control, providing instructions, etc, would address the first part.

Proposed Change:

add some SC to address "Help users avoid mistakes"
We have created a Level AA success criterion intended to help users avoid errors: "Labels or instructions are provided when content requires user input". yes
LC-1299 Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@visionaustralia.org> on behalf of Vision Australia (archived comment)
Comment: 3.2.2 says no change of context "beyond moving to the next field in tab order" - for non-visual browsers, thes may mean they miss out on important aspects of the content without even knowing about them. Very dnagerous!

Proposed Change:

Drop the words that are in the brackets.
We have removed the exception. Note that this behavior is still permitted, but only if the user has been warned about it in advance. Auto-advancing over other content is not recommended, but auto-advance-focus can be an important accessibility aid for the mobility impaired when used well. yes
LC-1300 Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@visionaustralia.org> on behalf of Vision Australia (archived comment)
Comment: Several WCAG 1.0 checkpoints that are still very important for some people with disabilities are missing from WCAG 2.0:-

1.5 (text equivalents for image map links) - important for people with some learning difficulties (some people are text oriented, others are graphics oriented)

3.4 (relative units) - important for visually impaired people (and others) with varying display resolutions

5.5 (data table summaries - describing the table structure) - important for screen-reader users

10.5 (separating links visually) - acknowledged as important for some people with cognitative disabilities

13.8 (front loading) - important for many people with reading difficulties

14.1 (clear language) - important for many people with reading difficulties; also the related SC are now Level 3 (cf P1 in WCAG 1.0)

14.3 (consistent presentation) - important for many people with reading difficulties, visual impairments, and cognitative disabilities

I acknowledge that some of these may not be machine testable, but they are human (consensus) testable.

Proposed Change:

Add these Checkpoints back in as WCAG 2.0 SC.
1.5 (text equivalents for image map links) - important for people with some learning difficulties (some people are text oriented, others are graphics oriented)

Response:
Image maps are non-text content and they are links. Therefore, this requirement is covered under Success Criteria 1.1.1, 2.4.4, and 2.4.5. HTML technique H24 "Providing text alternatives for the area elements of image maps" is a sufficient technique for these success criteria.

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3.4 (relative units) - important for visually impaired people (and others) with varying display resolutions

Response:
We have added two new success criterion to address these concerns:

Level AA: Visually rendered text can be resized without assistive technology up to 200 percent and down to 50 percent without loss of content or functionality.

Level AAA: Visually rendered text can be resized without assistive technology up to 200 percent and down to 50 percent without loss of content or functionality and in a way that does not require the user to scroll horizontally.

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5.5 (data table summaries - describing the table structure) - important for screen-reader users

Response:
This is addressed by Success Criterion 1.3.1 and technique H73.

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10.5 (separating links visually) - acknowledged as important for some people with cognitive disabilities

Response:
We have added an advisory technique to GL 3.1, 1.3 and 2.4 titled "Making links visually distinct."

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13.8 (front loading) - important for many people with reading difficulties

Response:
This is addressed by an advisory technique listed under SC 2.4.6 (formerly 2.4.5), "Starting section headings with unique information".

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14.1 (clear language) - important for many people with reading difficulties; also the related SC are now Level AAA (cf P1 in WCAG 1.0)

Response:
A characteristic that is important to WCAG 2.0 is the testability of each success criterion. We have not been able to create a testable description of "clear language." We have tried to cover this in some of the success criteria and have added advisory techniques in Guideline 3.1. However, there is no direct mapping.

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14.3 (consistent presentation) - important for many people with reading difficulties, visual impairments, and cognitive disabilities

Response:
Aspects of WCAG 1.0 Checkpoint 14.3 are required by WCAG 2.0 Guideline SC 3.2.3 and SC 3.2.4. There is no Success Criterion in WCAG 2.0 that is as broad as WCAG 1.0 Checkpoint 14.3, so aspects of it do not relate.
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LC-648 Andrew Harris <andrew@woowoowoo.com> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: GE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Thoroughly disappointed and disillusioned with WCAG 2.

I had hoped all the \'problems\' would be ironed out by this stage, but it seems that they have just become more ingrained.

To be fair, I can see where you\'re heading - that being specific about things like current technologies runs the risk of being outdated in the near future. I can see why you are using abstracted terms like \'Baseline\' and not further emphasising Validation, but in practice it is not going to work.

Why?

One of the biggest problems I had with WCAG 1 was the non-measurable stuff. You could run your page through a software checker and it would return some results, but others you had to \'interpret\'. It took a lot of training and practice to get people to understand what these guidelines meant. Most found it too hard. Consequently, the vast majority of people/companies think accessibility is simply \'alt\' text for images.

What the accessibility world is really crying out for is a measurable, detectable, practical standard. One that can be used in day to day work without a great deal of knowledge or training.

WCAG 2 seems to have gone in the other direction. Introducing more jargon, less certainty, more difficulty... it is not going to work.

Baseline

As an example, the idea of a Baseline has merit. In a perfect world, it would probably work, technologies would be designed up to acceptable standards and companies would work to improve those standards. In reality, this is rubbish. Without a hurdle, no-one will spend money to achieve a reasonable level of accessibility unless they are forced to do it. You cannot leave the \'stating of baselines\' totally in the hands of the provider, or there will be no incentive to improve. Quite apart from that, setting a baseline will require a level of expertise that most providers simply do not have and probably do not wish to acquire.

If you are wedded to the idea of baselines, then the only way it will work in the \'real\' world is if you set \'minimum baselines\' in those media and channels for which there are w3 or other accessible standards. This would ensure that there is always a point of reference to turn to. These \'minimums\' might be documents separate from WCAG, so needn\'t compromise its longevity, but could be easier to update as technologies change - in fact, improving the relevance of WCAG 2 over time.

Validity

As a trainer and advocate in my workplace for webstandards and accessibility, one of the most effective tools in aiding understanding is the online validator. The W3 HTML validator or accessibility \'checkers\' like Bobby or \"Cynthia Says\"... it doesn\'t matter, the user checks their page and gets some feedback about obvious problems. Of course if a page is not valid code, it often can\'t be checked, so one of the most valuable and visible checks on a page is rendered useless.

As I understand it, Valid Code is not recieving the emphasis I believe it should. There are provisions for validating \'Web Units\', but some uncertainty about whether these will be regarded as \'essential\' to any overall level of success.

I always tell people that a valid page is a big first step towards an accessible page, in fact, I think it is essential and should definitely be right up there as a priority 1 checkpoint - or whatever they\'re called now ;-) Validity is measurable, and helps create semantic, well structured data. Make it a minimum!

Proposed Change:

1) Consider publishing accompanying baseline documents to ensure there is a clear, measureable expectation for levels of conformance.

2) Increase the emphasis of validation to published/accepted/measurable standards
Regarding measurability and detectability:
At http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#overview-sc, WCAG now states: “All WCAG 2.0 success criteria are written to be testable. While some can be tested by computer programs, others require human testers for part or all of the test. The same results should be obtained with a high level of confidence when people who understand how people with different types of disabilities use the Web test the same content.�

Regarding Baseline issues:
The term "baseline" has been replaced by "accessibility-supported web technologies". The guidelines and success criteria remain technology-independent, in order to allow conformance using any Web technology but that technology must be supported by user agents, including assistive technologies. So, in choosing Web technologies that will be used when creating content, authors must use technologies that will work with existing user agents, including assistive technologies, that are available to the users of their content who have disabilities.

To make it easier for authors who may not be familiar with or have “expertise� of assistive technologies, and to take the responsibility out of “the hands of the provider", documented lists of accessibility-supported web technologies will be developed by WAI and other sources.

Regarding Validity: The working group charter designates the inclusion of issues that directly affect accessibility. While some aspects of "use technologies according to specification" do relate to accessibility, others do not. The aspects that do relate are covered in other success criteria in the Guidelines. Requiring validation to published/accepted/measurable standards would go beyond accessibility.
Note that we encourage validity and list it first in the sufficient techniques for meeting this success criterion.
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LC-735 Andy Dingley <andy.dingley@talgentra.com> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: GE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Prompted, I admit, by http://www.alistapart.com/articles/tohellwithwcag2
I\'m writing to express my disappointment with the WCAG 2.0 draft. The
content is uninspiring and I find the process to be little more than
railroading any public comment. Five years for the draft and a month to
comment? That\'s a rubber-stamp, not an opportunity.

As to the draft itself, then I find it almost worthless. It\'s as
worthless and irrelevant as WCAG 1 was.

I care deeply about web accessibility. As an \"accessibility geek\", I
also find myself in the frustrating position of knowing what to do, but
having repeated management pressure to do just the opposite.
Accessibility still isn\'t a real issue for commercial development and
it\'s leadership from the major bodies that\'s needed most, not developer
education. The information is already out there (Joe Clark, for
starters) and anyone who cares can easily be pointed towards it.

As this draft is though, it presents accessibility as an impossibility
complex matter that\'s about as dry as SGML parsing. There is no way I
can show this WCAG guideline to any sort of manager or commissioning
editor. It falls immediately into deathly dull technical issues couched
in impenetrable language and makes no real case to justify accessibility
as a worthy goal. Even as a technical description for implementors it\'s
almost worthless.

These have always been the failings of the WCAG guidelines. The 1 -> 2
process though has been little more than an updating and tidying
exercise when the document itself required a ground-up re-write. Or more
usefully, throwing away and simply replacing wuith Joe Clark\'s
well-known boook that does a much better job of all of it!

I\'m disappointed that the W3C has lent its name to this document. As a
counter-example I\'m continually surprised by the quality of the HTML
Recommendation and the subtlety of some design choices I\'m only just
realising the value of, even after using the DTD for years. It\'s a
paragon of _why_ a standards process driven by experts is such a great
thing, when it works. The WCAG guidelines though are everything that\'s
bad about the output of standards bodies. Obscure, over-complex,
partial, irrelevant, and basically inaccessible.


I would like to see this draft abandoned and the process re-started --
then a new draft developed, from scratch (or possibly lifted wholesale
from the canonical ref I\'ve already mentioned). This is a massive
change, but I see no possibility of turning the existing draft into
anything useful.

Proposed Change:
We received a great deal of input on the Last Call draft and have made a large number of changes, including a rewrite of much of the draft to make it easier to understand. We have also included a new Quick Reference document, http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/quickref/20070517/ , that provides a tool for practitioners who just want the bottom line on the requirements and the techniques for meeting them in different technologies. We also shortened the Guidelines document considerably.

Here are some of the things we have done.

Easier language to understand
- Wrote simpler guidelines
- Removed as many technical terms (jargon) as possible replacing them with plainer language or, where possible, their definitions
- Eliminated several new or unfamiliar terms. (authored unit, etc.)
- Removed the term Baseline and replaced it with “web technologies that are accessibility supported� and then defined what it means to be accessibility supported.
- Removed the nesting of definitions where we could (i.e. definitions that pointed to other definitions)
- Tried to word things in manners that are more understandable to different levels of Web expertise
- Added short names/handles on each success criterion to make them easier to find and compare etc.
- Simplified the conformance

Shortening the document overall
- Shortened the introduction
- Moved much of the discussion out of the guidelines and put it in the Understanding WCAG 2.0 document
- Shortened the conformance section and moved it after the guidelines
- Moved mapping from WCAG 1 to a separate support document (so it can be updated more easily)

Creating a Quick Practitioner-oriented Summary / Checklist-like document
- Created a Quick Reference document that has just the Guidelines, success criteria and the techniques for meeting the success criteria.
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LC-653 Betty McLaughlin <ocean2000@comcast.net> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: GE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

I hope you will publish a list of things to do when designing a website.

Whatever I have read on your site (over time) never seems to get to the point. I would like to know exactly what to do.

thank you,

Betty McLaughlin



Proposed Change:
The WCAG WG and the Education and Outreach (EO) working group will be working together to create application notes that will do just what you request. See Overview of WCAG 2.0 at http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/wcag20.php and you will see them mentioned. We would like to have them done now, but need to finish the guidelines themselves first. tocheck
LC-1408 Betty McLaughlin <ocean2000@comcast.net> on behalf of British Standards Instution, London, UK (archived comment)
1. Addressing Cognitive and Learning Disability

WCAG 2.0 claims to define and address the requirements for making Web content accessible to those with learning difficulties, cognitive limitations and others. We do not accept that claim.

Specifically, the success criteria requirements for making content understandable largely ignore the needs of people with learning difficulties and cognitive limitations. Please note that there are guidelines published by other groups that will make content much more accessible to these users. However, with the WCAG claim to address learning difficulties and cognitive limitations, people will not know that they need to look further.

We would like to see continued work in this field and a statement in the WCAG 2.0 abstract and introduction modifying the claim that they currently address accessibility for learning disabilities. Specifically, we recommend removing learning difficulties and cognitive limitations from the list of supported disabilities. A sentence may be added later in the abstract that \"these guidelines may also provide some benefits for people with learning difficulties and cognitive limitations\". We would then like to see a statement of intent such as: \"the working group intends to build additional success criteria to address accessibility for learning disabilities and cognitive limitations.\"
We have added language to the Introduction, the Conformance section, and the Quick Reference to highlight the fact that WCAG 2 only addresses some of the needs of people with cognitive, learning, and language disabilities, and to call out the need for more research in this area. WAI is exploring ways in which to support and encourage work in this important area.

We have added some best practices for cognitive, learning, and language disabilities as advisory techniques, and we have proposed 3 new success criteria in this area.
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LC-558 Bruce Bailey <bruce.bailey@ed.gov> on behalf of DoED/OCIO (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

1.3.2 (color alone) is not sufficiently disambiguated from 1.3.4 (variations in presentations in text). Two of four examples, and only Common Failure, in UNDERSTANDING should be associated with 1.3.4. The implication is that 1.3.4 should be Level 1.

Proposed Change:

Promote 1.3.4 to Level 1. It may then be possible to demote 1.3.2 to Level 2 or 3.

I am also commenting on UNDERSTANDING and TECHNIQUES but with the assumption that 1.3.2 and 1.3.4 are correct as-is.
SC 1.3.4 has been folded into SC 1.3.1, in order to clarify that text variations are one of many types of design that must be semantically identified. SC 1.3.2 is thus more clearly specifically about the non-semantic aspect of the visual design specific to color.

SC 1.3.2 was previously a Level AA success criterion. The Working Group decided between January 17th and February 24th, 2006, to elevate it to Level A because of the desire to require a visual differentiator for color blind users. If SC 1.3.2 is moved to Level AA and SC 1.3.4 is moved to Level A, then all that would be required is for the color change to be programmatically determinable.

To clarify situation, we have created a new sufficient technique for SC 1.3.2 situation A: "Using semantic markup whenever color cues are used" (and reference H49).
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LC-691 Bruno von Niman <ANEC_W3CRep_Bruno@vonniman.com> on behalf of ANEC (ANEC-ICT-2006-W3C-006) (archived comment)
Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

Triple-A conformance requires only conformance to a
“portion of level 3 success criteria�?. In practice, this is
set to 50%.

Proposed Change:

This may be more than OK for Web sites developed
for commercial purposes (e.g. by small companies)
but should require more from e.g. public sites, where
competence and resources are less of an issue
We have changed the definition of Level AAA conformance so that all Level AAA Success Criteria that apply to the content types used must be satisfied. yes
LC-692 Bruno von Niman <ANEC_W3CRep_Bruno@vonniman.com> on behalf of ANEC (ANEC-ICT-2006-W3C-006) (archived comment)
Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

All conformance criteria are based on technical
terms. Is this usable by e.g public procurers?
Testable conformance criteria should be added.

Proposed Change:

A testing methodology should be developed by W3C
with strict requirements and interpretations, in order
to allow for trustworthy and transparent conformance
declarations. Non compliance with conformance
claims trigger a loss of consumer confidence.
The Conformance section of the guidelines has been revised and the new conformance section includes testable Conformance Criteria. All WCAG 2.0 success criteria are testable and WCAG 2.0 defines accessibility guidelines (goals) and success criteria (testable criteria for conformance at different levels of accessibility).

All of the sufficient techniques include test procedures. Developing a program for testing sites is beyond the scope and resources of the WCAG working group.
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LC-1304 Catherine Brys <c.brys@lib.gla.ac.uk> (archived comment)
Hello,

I don't think there is any point in addressing specific issues with the WCAG 2.0 since there are so many and I have problems with the overall concept of the WCAG 2.0.

I will limit myself to agreeing with Brian Kelly's suggestions (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006Jun/0143.html) to:
o Withdraw WCAG 2.0
o Produce an errata for WCAG 1.0

WCAG 1.0 is outdated and needs some corrections but overall it is a useful document. WCAG 2.0 could not be further removed from what web developers/authors need.
It would have been nice to have a different approach than the one used in WCAG 1.0 - e.g. a truly easy-to-use and accessible web site rather than a set of hyperlinked documents. However, WCAG 2.0 has not addressed the issues web developers had with WCAG 1.0, nor has it built upon the strengths of WCAG 1.0.

During the drafting of WCAG 2.0 many routes have been explored but the result is so far off the track (vague, difficult to understand, hard to navigate) that I think it will be impossible for web developers to apply the guidelines. Many web developers will give up on web accessibility or be confused and as a result, fewer web sites will be accessible.
I hope the WCAG WG can take into account the concerns so many of us have been expressing.

Best regards,

Catherine

Disclaimer: The comments above represent the personal opinion of the sender; they do not necessarily represent the University's viewpoint.
We have been working hard to try to make the organization and contents of the WCAG 2.0 documents easier to read and to manage. The publication of the Quick Reference http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/quickref/ is one example. We hope this will make the guidelines easier for web developers to apply.

We do not think that publishing an errata to WCAG 1.0 will address the current state of the Web that WCAG 2.0 attempts to address: web technologies continue to develop, and it is critical that new technologies address accessibility as they evolve. WCAG 2 provides testable, technology-independent guidelines that should provides guidance for how to use any technology on the Web.
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LC-1303 Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com> (archived comment)
Structural/substantive issue

The current levels system for success criteria seems insufficiently
described, and inappropriate to the needs of developers.

WCAG 20 acknowledges that most criteria are essential in order for some people to be able to use some types of web content. It then attempts to describe the amount of benefit to usersin general (the difference between level 1 and level 2) and the apparent applicability of a technique to the web. It appears that the goal is to provide a "reasonable" implementation planning tool.

Both of these things are in fact situation-dependent. In some cases, it will be easy, in others critical, to apply approaches whose level suggests that they are not so important or easy in the general case.

Thus, while providing a signed equivalent of content is extremely
important in a number of cases, and is occasionally trivially easy (in
others it is quite expensive), it is perfectly possible that all web
content claiming triple-A conformance is without signed content.

Similarly, there is no clear technical justification for different
requirement levels for captioning depending on whether content is
"live"/"real-time", or pre-recorded. The accesibility result for users who rely on captions is exactly the same in both cases. Again, this may be easy to implement in some cases, and is very expensive in others, and its relative importance will be variable.

In order to assist developers, and policy makers, WCAG should describe the imact on users of a particular success criterion being met or not. This enables prioritisation based on the actual situation, rather than a generalised model situation which will often be an inaccurate
representation of the case at hand.

I propose that either:
1. the levels be removed, and the information in the currently informative "Understanding WCAG" about who benefits be moved to the normtive recommendation. Or, as an alternative

2. the specification revert to the WCAG 1.0 priority scheme, rather than with the "apparent ease of implementation" clouding the question of their relevance to users.

cheers

Chaals
The description of conformance levels in WCAG 2 has been rewritten to clarify the differences (see http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#overview-levels ):

The word "levels" does not mean that some success criteria are more important than others. Each success criterion in WCAG 2.0 is essential to some users, and the levels build upon each other. However, even content that conforms at AAA (triple-A) may not be fully accessible to every person with a disability.

*In general, Level A success criteria achieve accessibility by supporting assistive technology while putting the fewest possible limits on presentation. Thus people with a wide range of disabilities using a wide range of assistive technologies, from voice input and eye-tracking devices to screen readers and screen magnifiers, are able to access content in different ways. In other words, Level A success criteria support the ability of both mainstream and specialized user agents to adapt content to formats that meet their users' needs.

*The success criteria in Level AA provide additional support for assistive technology. At the same time, they also support direct access to content by the many people who use conventional user agents without assistive technology. In general, Level AA success criteria place more limits on visual presentation and other aspects of content than the success criteria in Level A.

*Level AAA success criteria increase both direct access and access through assistive technology. They place tighter limits on both presentation and content.
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LC-1307 Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com> (archived comment)
Structural/substantive issue

The specification seems to take no account of situations where in fact all
user agents relevant to a given baseline offer functionality that the
guidelines are requiring of authors.

Where this is the case (for example, SVG user agents generally provide a
mechanism to pause any animation independently of the content, and in SVG
tiny it is not possible to provide the functionality in content anyway)
the guidelines should take it into account.

I propose that the baseline section be reworked, to incorporate this type
of situation. Perhaps the most robust way of specifying this would be to
explicitly relate UAAG requirements to WCAG requirements, and note that
where there are (some expression for most or all) user agents for the
baseline which meet a given UAAG requirement the corresponding WCAG
requirement need not be met. Note that the proportion of user agents for
which this needs to be true should be at least as high, and probably
higher than that which is reasonable to justify the use of a particular
baseline in the first place.
WCAG success criteria have been written to describe the functionality that must be available, but have avoided specifying that the functionality must be provided by the user agent or by the content directly. For example, SC 2.4.1 (A mechanism is available to bypass blocks of content that are repeated on multiple Web pages) can be satisfied by providing links in the content to bypass the blocks, or by providing headings at the beginning of each section and relying on the user agent to skip the repeated content by skipping to headings. tocheck
LC-1309 Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com> (archived comment)
The guidelines place in level 3 very many of the requirements necessary to
help people with cognitive and reading disabilities access the web. Since
only 50% of level 3 requirements (as chosen by content authors) need to be
met in order to claim confomance to the guidelines, it is quite possible
to conform to the guidelines at triple-A level while doing very little
(and clearly not enough) to address the needs of these user groups.

I propose either that this be explicitly and clearly explained in the
introductory and conformance sections, or that the levels system be
reworked as per my lat call comment on them.

cheers

Chaals
We have changed the definition of Triple-A conformance so that all level AAA success criteria must be satisfied.

We have added language to the Introduction, the Conformance section, and the Quick Reference to highlight the fact that WCAG 2 only addresses some of the needs of people with cognitive, learning, and language disabilities, and to call out the need for more research in this area. WAI is exploring ways in which to support and encourage work in this important area.

In addition, we have added some best practices for cognitive, learning, and language disabilities as advisory techniques, and we have proposed 3 new success criteria in this area.
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LC-1320 Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com> (archived comment)
Technical/substantive issue?

The current requirement fo unambiguous parsing is impossible to meet -
there are always multiple ways of parsing any data.

Instead I suggest the old wording of "conforms to formal published
grammars".

This makes it feasible for User Agents to recognise the content and parse
it either according to the rules for such grammars, or in cases where it
is necessary (such as HTML) to use specifically adapted parsing techniques.

cheers

Chaals
To make this requirement easier to understand, we have reworded SC 4.1.1 as follows:

Content implemented using markup languages has elements with complete start and end tags, except as allowed by their specifications, and are nested according to their specifications.

Note: Start and end tags that are missing a critical character in their formation, such as a closing angle bracket or a mismatched attribute value quote are not complete.

The working group looked at this topic carefully over an extended period of time and concluded that requiring strict adherence to all aspects of specifications does not necessarily result in an increase in accessibility. For example, it is possible to create invalid pages that present no accessibility barriers. It is also possible in certain situations to enhance accessibility through the use of markup that is not part of the specification.

The working group must work within its charter and only include things that directly affected accessibility. Some aspects of "use technologies according to specification" and validity do relate to accessibility. However, others do not. So requiring validity would take us beyond our charter. We do recommend it though and it is our #1 technique listed for conforming to SC 4.1.1.
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LC-580 Chris Lilley <chris@w3.org> on behalf of W3C (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

The term "luminosity" is incorrect here (it applies only to certain Broadcast video signals). Relative luninance is the correct term. When used as a ratio, the difference between absolute and relative Luminance can be dropped, but the term luminance rather than luminosity should be used.

http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-WCAG20-20060427/appendixA.html#luminosity-contrastdef
defines the coefficients for calculating luminance, and its good to see that the Rec.709 chromaticities are used (rather than, for example, the NTSC ones which do not apply to modern computer monitors at all). (the coeeficients are correct, see the "luminanceToAlpha" section of http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/filters.html#feColorMatrix but the specification does not explain why this is so.

However the text as it stands implies that the formula given is universally applicable. it is not. This is particularly importnt when printing Web materials.

Proposed Change:

change "luminosity" to luminance throughout.

change "The luminosity of a color is defined as" to "the luminance of an sRGB color is defined as".

change "blue RGB values" to "blue sRGB values" (the equation does not apply to other color spaces).

Remove the exponentiation operator and the 2.2 gamma approximation. Instead, use the correct sRGB transfer curve.

Reference the sRGB specification. See the SVG 1.2Tiny specification for an example of how to reference it.

You may want to note that the equation given is only correct for typicalcolor vision (the ISO standard observer). For atypical color vision, often incorrectly termed color blindness, different equations apply depending on the type of atypical color vision and the degree of severity.
For more information, please see
http://www.w3.org/Graphics/atypical-color-response
Thanks for the comments and suggestions. To take them each in turn:

CL: change "luminosity" to luminance throughout.
Since Web content doesn't provide any light output (HTML doesn't give off photons) we can't use the word "luminance" (which means light output). However 'relative luminance' is used in the literature for the concept we are describing and we are now using this.

CL: change "The luminosity of a color is defined as" to "the luminance of an sRGB color is defined as".

See above regarding luminance. And, we have switched to specifying that we are talking about sRGB in our equations.

CL: change "blue RGB values" to "blue sRGB values" (the equation does not apply to other color spaces).

Correct and we have done so.

CL: Remove the exponentiation operator and the 2.2 gamma approximation. Instead, use the correct sRGB transfer curve.

Done. Now uses the equations from the W3C document on sRGB.

CL: Reference the sRGB specification. See the SVG 1.2Tiny specification for an example of how to reference it.

Done

CL: You may want to note that the equation given is only correct for typical color vision (the ISO standard observer). For atypical color vision, often incorrectly termed color blindness, different equations apply depending on the type of atypical color vision and the degree of severity. For more information, please see http://www.w3.org/Graphics/atypical-color-response.

We have explained this briefly in our "Understanding" document. A longer exposition of this will be released in a paper (since it is too complicated to put into How to Meet SC 1.4.3 itself. The contrast ratios were set higher than normal and in a way to account for low vision and atypical color vision.

The paper "Atypical colour response" has also been added as a resource.

You can find the updated SC and definitions at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#visual-audio-contrast-contrast and http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#visual-audio-contrast7 .

The Understanding SC 1.4.3 and 1.4.5 documents can be found at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20-20070517/#visual-audio-contrast-contrast and http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20-20070517/#visual-audio-contrast7 .
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LC-581 Chris Lilley <chris@w3.org> on behalf of W3C (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

"3.2.2 Changing the setting of any form control or field does not automatically cause a change of context (beyond moving to the next field in tab order), unless the authored unit contains instructions before the control that describe the behavior"

Consider a user interface for a map, where form fields such as panning controls, layer selections or search boxes are used to zoom,pan, or alter a map. This common use seems to be precluded by the text above.

Proposed Change:

I regret not being able to suggest suitable text at this time. I can see the benefit of what you are trying to do, and I can see that it makes non-confomant some interfaces that are currently used. I think the text needs to be more precise, and look forward to discussing this further with you.
User interfaces that allow the user to select different views of the same data cause changes in content, but not changes in context. Success Criterion 4.1.2 has been changed to require that user agents and assistive technology be notified of the changes in state produced by such changes in views. yes
LC-486 Chris Ridpath <chris.ridpath@utoronto.ca> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

The term "parsed unambiguously" is ambiguous. Parsing requires a set of rules and without those rules the parsing result may be meaningless. For example, an HTML file may be parsed using the rule "by line". It may also be parsed using the rule "by sentence and word". This parsing will produce an unambiguous tree structure but has no effect on accessibility. I believe the intent of the SC is to include the set of rules (e.g. DTD or schema) that has an effect on accessibility.

Proposed Change:

Include text that specifies the set of rules needed to parse the document. Example: "Web units or authored components can be parsed unambiguously using the specification that affects accessibility...". In the techniques document you can specify the appropriate rules such as in HTML use one of the standard DTDs.
We have reworded SC 4.1.1 as follows:

4.1.1 Content implemented using markup languages has elements with complete start and end tags, except as allowed by their specifications, and are nested according to their specifications. (Level A)

Note: Start and end tags that are missing a critical character in their formation, such as a closing angle bracket or a mismatched attribute value quote are not complete.
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LC-708 Chris Ridpath <chris.ridpath@utoronto.ca> on behalf of ATRC University of Toronto (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

The text \"modify or delete data in data storage systems\" is very broad. Even submitting a search to Google will do this - Google will store info about your request.


Proposed Change:

Add text that describes data as important or non trivial to enter again.
We have revised this to read:

2.5.3 Error Prevention: For forms that cause legal commitments or financial transactions to occur, that modify or delete user-controllable data in data storage systems, or that submit test responses, at least one of the following is true:

1. Reversible: Transactions are reversible. [LC-1196]
2. Checked: Submitted data is checked for input errors before going on to the next step in the process.
3. Confirmed: A mechanism is available for reviewing, confirming, and correcting information before finalizing the transaction.
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LC-841 Chris Ridpath <chris.ridpath@utoronto.ca> on behalf of ATRC University of Toronto (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: substantive
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

The Success Criterion (1.3.1 level 1) that calls for the presence of labels is at a different level from the Success Criterion (2.4.5 level 3) that requires the labels actually describe the item. This applies to such items as form labels, headings, titles and table captions. This is an inducement for placeholder text and will functionally decrease accessibility. Examples: web pages with the title \"title goes here\", table captions of \"table caption\" and form control labels \"control name goes here\" are perfectly acceptable. If the requirements for the presence of the label are lower than the requirement than the label actually be descriptive it will be an incentive for authoring programs to put in placeholder text. Requiring that a label be present without a requirement that the label be useful does not make sense.

Proposed Change:

Change the level of SC 2.4.5 to level 1 (same level as SC 1.3.1).
Or remove SC 2.4.5 and modify SC 1.3.1, SC 2.4.3 and any SC that requires text so they include the text from SC 2.4.5. Example: change SC 2.4.3 so it reads \"Web units have titles that describe the web unit\".
Success criteria 1.3.1 does not require the presence of labels, headings, titles, or table captions which would affect the design of the page. It only requires that if these items are present on the page, they must be coded so that the structure can be determined programmatically.

A new Level AAA success criteria has been added, SC 2.4.9 "Where content is organized into sections, the sections are indicated with headings.".

We have added "descriptive" to SC 2.4.2 (formerly 2.4.3) and moved it to level A.

SC 2.4.6 (formerly 2.4.5) has been moved to Level AA. It addresses descriptive headings and labels, which may need to be understood in context. While headings may not have sufficient descriptive power in isolation, when viewed in the context of a structured document, they do have sufficient descriptive power.
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LC-872 Chris Ridpath <chris.ridpath@utoronto.ca> on behalf of ATRC University of Toronto (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: substantive
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Success Criterion 2.4.4 should be at level 1 and is currently at level 2. Good link text is very important for people with visual impairments as well as people with cognitive impairments. Poor link text was identified as a key problem in the DRC report (http://www.drc-gb.org/PDF/2.pdf). Good link text is at least as important as skip-navigation links which is at level 1.

Proposed Change:

Move SC 2.4.4 to level 1.
This success criterion has been moved to level A because without it, it requires significantly greater effort (and keystrokes) for assistive technology users to determine link context. tocheck
LC-874 Chris Ridpath <chris.ridpath@utoronto.ca> on behalf of ATRC University of Toronto (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: substantive
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

It\'s still unclear what \"parsed unambiguously\" means when applied to CSS documents. Even a loose interpretation is still a heavy burden for authors as this SC is level 1 and may not improve accessibility.
(This was discussed on list but no resolution.)

Proposed Change:

Clearly define what \"parsed unambiguously\" means when applied to CSS documents. Move SC to level 2 for CSS documents.
To make this requirement easier to understand, we have reworded SC 4.1.1 to clarify that it must be possible to parse content without the need for user agent repair. The revised SC reads as follows:

4.1.1 Content implemented using markup languages has elements with complete start and end tags, except as allowed by their specifications, and are nested according to their specifications. (Level A)

Note: Start and end tags that are missing a critical character in their formation, such as a closing angle bracket or a mismatched attribute value quote are not complete.

We believe this is appropriate at Level A for CSS as well as other technologies.
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LC-875 Chris Ridpath <chris.ridpath@utoronto.ca> on behalf of ATRC University of Toronto (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: substantive
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

The technique H71 (fieldset and legend) under SC 1.3.1 is helpful but not necessary for all groups of controls. This is now at level 1 and should be moved to level 2. An example file was posted to the list (http://checker.atrc.utoronto.ca/docs/file2.html) that is very accessible and commonly used but fails the SC. Authors should not be forced to use fieldset and legend for all groups of controls.

Proposed Change:

Move H71 to level 2.
WCAG 2.0 techniques do not have any assigned level. Each technique provides an example of how to meet one or more success criteria and are not absolute requirements. There is often more than one technique that can be used to meet a particular success criterion. Technique H71 is one mechanism which can be used to meet SC 1.3.1, but is not the only mechanism. If appropriate technique H44, Using label elements to associate text labels with form controls can also be used with radio buttons and check boxes. In order to clarify when fieldsets are appropriate the following paragraph has been added to the description of H71:

When a small group of related radio buttons includes clear instructions and distinct selections it may not be necessary to use fieldsets and legends; technique H44, Using label elements to associate text labels with form controls, may also be sufficient.

In addition, your example has been added to technique H44.

Example 3: A small, related group of radio buttons with a clear description and labels for each individual element. Note: To provide clear associations and instructions for a large set of related radio buttons technique H71, Providing a label for groups of radio buttons or checkboxes using the fieldset and legend elements, should be considered.
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LC-644 Chris W <chris@chrisw.com> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: GE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

To set the scene, I am your average garden-variety web developer. I am a simple soul, with college education, good English skills and above all, good HTML skills. I spend all day, every day, producing sites - for everything from the local dentist to the multi-million pound nation-wide high street chains.

WCAG 2 has disappointed me.

For a start, I just don\'t understand it. I am not stupid, but I just don\'t understand how it applies to what I build. How can I bear all that in mind when going through the stages of planning/building/testing a site?

It\'s going to take months to combine that into my daily routine and to be honest I cannot see the commercial benefit. Most of the sites I build, I make them WCAG 1 level 2 accessible out of good practice and for good karma. I like it; I enjoy the sense of responsibility I get from it. It sets me apart from the monkeys knocking sites out in the back bedroom.

WCAG 2 is so difficult, why would I bother? My customers do not care! If they do, then they will have to pay me a lot to have a compliant site, as the extra amount of time involved does not come for free.

If WCAG 2 was actually simple - a simple to understand a plain-English check list (i.e. - do you use PDF, see page 3, if not continue to page 4 > checklist) along with highly automated checking system, then we are going to see a lot more developers producing compliant sites. Just dream…an internet with more and more compliant web sites. Is that not what we all want?


Proposed Change:
We have reworked the entire document to make it shorter and easier to read. This includes:
- Shortening the introduction
- Moving much of the discussion out of the guidelines and puttin it in the Understanding WCAG 2.0 document
- Shortening the conformance section and moving it after the guidelines
- Writing simpler guidelines
- Removing as many technical terms (jargon) as possible, replacing them with simpler language or their definitions
- Removing the nesting of definitions where we could (i.e. definitions that pointed to other definitions)
- Moving information about mapping between WCAG 1 and WCAG 2 to a separate support document (so it can be updated more easily)
- Creating a Quick Reference documents that has just the Guidelines, success criteria and the techniques for meeting the success criteria.
- Trying to word things in manners that are more understandable to different levels of Web expertise
- Adding short names/handles on each success criterion to make them easier to find and compare etc.
- Simplifying the conformance section
- Using plainer language wherever possible (e.g. – use “Web page� instead of “Web Unit�)
- Eliminating several new or unfamiliar terms. (authored unit, etc.)
- Making the whole document much shorter.
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LC-882 Christophe Strobbe <christophe.strobbe@esat.kuleuven.be> on behalf of DocArch - K.U.Leuven (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: substantive
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

The note to SC 3.1.2 reads: \"This requirement does not apply to individual words or phrases that have become part of the primary language of the content.\": this is a problem for foreign words in a passage or quote that is not in the primary language.
This wording was introduced in the June 2006 Working Draft; before that, it read \"This does not include use of foreign words in text where such usage is a standard extension of the language,\" but I believe this was changed because the term \"foreign\" was considered problematic.

Proposed Change:

Rephrase the note to: \"This requirement does not apply to individual words or phrases that have become part of the language of the immediately neighbouring text.\"
We have revised the note to read, "This requirement does not apply to individual words. It also does not apply to proper names, to technical terms or to phrases that have become part of the language of the context in which they are used." yes
LC-883 Christophe Strobbe <christophe.strobbe@esat.kuleuven.be> on behalf of DocArch - K.U.Leuven (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: substantive
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

SC 3.1.4 reads: \" A mechanism for finding the expanded form of abbreviations is available.\"

Since technique G102 (Providing the expansion or explanation of an abbreviation) devotes a lot of attention to situations where you don\'t need to provide an expansion, but e.g. an explanation, this SC could be reworded as \"A mechanism for finding the meaning of abbreviations is available.\" Providing the expansion is only one way to provide the meaning.

Proposed Change:

Reword SC 3.1.4 to: \"A mechanism for finding the meaning of abbreviations is available.\"
We have updated the success criterion to read, "A mechanism for finding the expanded form or meaning of abbreviations is available." yes
LC-1470 Christophe Strobbe <christophe.strobbe@esat.kuleuven.be> on behalf of Katholieke Universiteit Leuven (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: substantive
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

The definition of Web unit is still ambiguous.

(1) If an HTML document (home.htm) has various linked stylesheets (one for screen, one for print, one for projection, ...), these are not all intended to be rendered together. I think the the following would all count as Web units:
- home.htm with the CSS for \'screen\',
- home.htm with the CSS for \'projection\',
- home.htm with the CSS for \'braille\',
- home.htm with the CSS for \'aural\',
- ...
However, this is not clear from the definition. If these are all different web units, it is also impossible to identify them with a URL, because the URL is the same for each.

(2) If an HTML page uses an object element with one or more fallbacks nested inside it (see the example slightly below http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/struct/objects.html#idx-object-5), I think the Web unit you claim conformance for is the HTML document with the outermost object element (with the TheEarth.py applet). However, the content of each of the nested object elements is not meant to be rendered together with the content of all the other object elements. Does that mean that there is a different web unit per fallback/nested object element?

(3) If a web page uses frames, the content of some of the frames depends on the user\'s interaction: e.g. clicking a link in the navigation frame opens a different document in the content frame. So the URL that identifies the frameset document does not always identify the same Web unit, unless the Web unit is limited to what is loaded by default.

(4) If user agent X requests URL http://www.example.com/ with MIME type aaa/bbb and user agent Y requests the same URL with MIME type ccc/ddd, and they get different web units because of the different MIME type, the URL cannot be used to differentiate between the two web units. Does that mean these are different Web units according to the current definition?

Most of this was previously discussed on the ERT mailing list in the context of conformance claims (see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2006May/0029.html and next messages in the same thread) and forwarded to the GL list (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2006AprJun/0181.html).

Proposed Change:
We have revised the guidelines and eliminated the word "Web unit" in favor of "Web page." We have defined "Web page"as follows (see http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#webpagedef ):

Web page

a resource that is referenced by a URI and is not embedded in another resource, plus any other resources that are used in the rendering or intended to be rendered together with it

Note: Although any "other resources" would be rendered together with the primary resource, they would not necessarily be rendered simultaneously with each other.

Example 1: When you enter http://shopping.example.com/ in your browser you enter a movie-like interactive shopping environment where you visually move about a store dragging products off of the shelves around you into a visual shopping cart in front of you. Clicking on a product causes it to be demonstrated with a specification sheet floating alongside.

Example 2: A Web resource including all embedded images and media.

Example 3: A Web mail program built using Asynchronous JavaScript and XML (AJAX). The program lives entirely at http://mail.example.com, but includes an inbox, a contacts area and a calendar. Links or buttons are provided that cause the the inbox, contacts, or calendar to display, but do not change the URL of the page as a whole.

Example 4: A customizable portal site, where users can choose content to display from a set of different content modules.

To answer your questions:

According to our definition.

#1 - They are all the same Web page because they are all the same primary resource with different secondary resources rendered with them.

#2 Again they are all the same Web page including all the nested versions. The secondary resources do not need to be rendered simultaneously with each other, only with the primary, to be part of the same Web page.

Regarding your concern #3, the definition of Web page is purposefully written to include dynamic content that comes from the same URI. So all of the content from all the variations would be part of the web page. If the contents of the frames can be loaded separately as well, then they would also be separate Web pages as well. But they would still be part of the frame Web page.

#4 If the different mime type would cause a different PRIMARY resource to be loaded, then they would be different Web pages. If you included that URI in your claim, all Web pages from that URI would have to be conform (meet the success criterion or have a mechanism to obtain a page with the same content that did).
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LC-1536 Christophe Strobbe <christophe.strobbe@esat.kuleuven.be> on behalf of DocArch, Katholieke Universiteit Leuven (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: substantive
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Should the baseline also identify the human or natural languages that the content covered by the conformance claim relies upon?
The rationale for this is twofold.
1. Success criteria 3.1.1 and 3.1.2 require language markup, especially for the benefit of users of speech synthesis and/or braille, but this language markup is of little benefit if the languages are not supported by, for example, the user\'s speech synthesis software.
2. Success criterion 3.1.5 requires supplemental content if text requires a reading ability more advanced than the lower secondary education level, but the algorithms or methods to determine the required reading ability are language-specific. (Similarly, the techniques you use to conform to WCAG depend on the technologies in your baseline.)

Proposed Change:

Consider adding the human languages that the content relies upon to the baseline. (This would imply a distinction between \"baseline technologies\", i.e. the current baseline concept, and \"baseline human languages\".)
The conformance section of WCAG2 has been completely rewritten. The term "baseline" has been replaced by "accessibility-supported Web technologies". The issue of what it means to be an accessibility-supported Web technology is addressed in the section "Accessibility Support of Web Technologies" at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#accessibility-support .

In analyzing whether a technology is accessibility supported, language support can and should be taken into account. This would be reflected in the documentation for the accessibility support including the language support of the various assistive technologies used in the analysis/report.
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LC-1410 David Keech <david.keech@bsi-global.com> on behalf of British Standards Instution, London, UK (archived comment)
3. WCAG defines a "web unit" as "one or more resources, intended to be rendered together, and identified by a single Uniform Resource Identifier ". Resources can in addition consist of moving images, or pages where part of the material is rendered through links into Web Services (such as with AJAX technology). The example given in the definition is static in nature - however in many situations in today's web the end result is not static, or defined solely by a single URI.

This appears to be clarified for a web unit in the section "Conformance claims" - where it states that it "can also take the form of a fully interactive and immersive environment"

However the situation becomes confused by later referring to "Aggregated content" and giving, as an example of this, "a web unit which is assembled from multiple sources that may or may not have their own levels of conformance". In a traditional web page, containing graphics, (as is given as an example in the definition of a "web unit"), this is conventionally exactly how images etc are rendered using the <IMG> tag.

Statements such as "The conformance level for a Web unit that contains authored units is equal to the lowest conformance level claimed for the Web unit content and any of the authored units it contains – including any claims pertaining to aggregated authored units" are extremely unclear, and indeed may be recursive following the unclear distinction apparently made between "web units" and "aggregated content". A "web page" on the other hand is fairly well understood. BSI recommend(s) a closer look at an accurately defined and understood syntax which is not open to misinterpretation and clearly conveys the ideas being communicated.
{accept}

Respond with:
We have replaced the term "Web unit" with "Web page" and have modified the conformance section to clarify these concerns.
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LC-1411 David Keech <david.keech@bsi-global.com> on behalf of British Standards Instution, London, UK (archived comment)
7. In the section "Examples of conformance claims", "jpeg" is specified as a requirement of one example (examples use "Real Video" and "png" in a similar manner). These are not testable specifications in the same sense as XHTML 1.0 (Strict) - for example progressive jpeg support was only added to many browsers long after the basic sub-baseline jpeg (actually correctly JPEG) decoding was implemented. IS 10918-1 | T.81 (which presumably is what is intended by JPEG) defines a 'shopping list' of image compression techniques, including a baseline. Actual JPEG implementations excludes many items in the list, and add other items (typically JFIF/EXIF file support), and are, almost without exception, sub-baseline. A claim that an item "relies upon" jpeg (sic) is fairly meaningless, and is dependent on many things other than a correct interpretation of parts of IS 10918-1 (for example bit resolution and colour rendering of the display)
The conformance section of WCAG2 has been completely rewritten. The term "baseline" has been replaced by "accessibility-supported Web technologies". The issue of what it means to be an accessibility-supported Web technology is addressed in the section "Accessibility Support of Web Technologies" at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#accessibility-support .


The reason that JPEG is specified in this example is that non-text formats such as JPEG or PNG may be "relied upon" technologies for conformance claims which include success criterion 3.1.5, which encourages authors to provide additional content that illustrates or clarifies the primary content.

While we agree that there is ambiguity in simply listing "JPEG" when it comes to the implementation details you outline in your comment, we believe that this concern would be covered by the definition of accessibility-supported technologies, which includes support by a wide range of user agents and assistive technoloiges.
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LC-1412 David Keech <david.keech@bsi-global.com> on behalf of British Standards Instution, London, UK (archived comment)
8 A number of the test criteria and suggested 'solutions' are far from clear. For example, Guideline 1.2 at level 3 success criteria suggests the use of sign language interpretation for multimedia. Following the references in the specification lead to the "Understanding WCAG 2.0" document suggests including a sign language interpreter in the corner of the video stream. There are many sign languages - for example English and US sign languages are different and believed to be mutually unintelligible. No suggestion is made as to how to resolve this for (for example) an English language documentary. Clearly in this instance one possible solutions would be to use overlay replaceable video technology (as offered for example in MPEG-4 technology) rather than conventional digitised video as offered by MPEG1 or MPEG2 technology.
{accept issue - but otherwise addressed}
RESPOND WITH
"There is already a NOTE on the technique which addresses the first part of your issue. it reads:
"Note: Since sign language is not usually a signed version of the printed language, the author has to decide which sign language to include. Usually the sign language of the primary audience would be used. If intended for multiple audiences, multiple sign languages may be used. Refer to advisory techniques for multiple sign languages."

With regard to the second aspect of your comment - Yes, it is also an approach and is mentioned G81 ("displayed in a different viewport or overlaid on the image by the player"). We also have a SMIL technique for doing this. If you would like to write up another technique on that we would be happy to review for inclusion. Techniques can be submitted to http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/TECHS-SUBMIT/
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LC-1413 David Keech <david.keech@bsi-global.com> on behalf of British Standards Instution, London, UK (archived comment)
9 Comments on Appendix A - Glossary (Normative). This section should be re-written (preferably by a standards editor). Almost every definition is inaccurate, inappropriate or unnecessary. Several are simply incorrect. Starting just with those beginning with
A...

Definition of acronym is incorrect (relates to definition of abbreviation and initialism). An acronym is "A word formed from the initial letters or parts of other words" (SOED). An initialism is a subset of this, being formed from initials. Missing out the words 'parts of other words' is both incorrect and makes initialism and acronym identical.

Definition of "activity where timing is essential". 'Timing' should be defined for clarification (or better described in the definition).

Definition of "analog, time-dependent input" - This is 'analog, time-dependent movement', presumably as opposed to "digital, time dependent movement". Whilst not being very clear, adding a definition which constrains this to a very specific meaning in the context of a pointing device may not be useful. The wording should stand on its own as English text, and is not proper to a definition section.

Definition of ASCII art. It is assumed that an image rendered from many small images would classify as ASCII art (examples exist). The spatial arrangement is therefore of glyphs (or similar small sized graphical objects), not characters - their rendition is what provides the pseudo-photographic output.

Definition of "authored unit" (and implicitly "authored component"). See comments above about confusion between authored unit, component and web unit)

Other errors include: Re-definition of text (SOED: the wording of something written or printed). Unicode is defined by the Unicode Consortium (www.unicode.org) and no longer aligns with ISOIEC 10646-1 (or 106464, whatever that is supposed to be!)

Some definitions (eg Luminosity contrast ratio) are in the vein of defining pi as 22/7 - input from the relevant standards body (eg CIE) could have avoided these basic errors. In several places, values are referred to as RGB without any reference to colour spaces. Many definition would be much improved by using the same word definitions as are used in other Standards, where similar terms are correctly defined, and then simply referred to the appropriate Standard in the definition (or worst case by repeating verbatim the wording used in the Standard).
We appreciate responses of people in the standards field and have received much input which has helped us arrive at the definitions we currently have. We have taken into consideration your comments and have made the following changes:

The definition of acronym now reads "abbreviated form made from the initial letters or parts of other words (in a name or phrase) which may be pronounced as a word
Example: NOAA is an acronym made from the initial letters of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration in the United States."

Timing: This is the ordinary dictionary definition of 'timing'. By policy we don't define words that are used in their ordinary fashion.

"analog, time dependent": We have removed this term from the success criterion and from the glossary.

ASCII ART: We have changed "characters" to "characters or glyphs"

Authored Unit: We have eliminated the definition of authored unit for (among others) the reasons you have cited.

Text/Unicode: We have removed references to Unicode.

Luminosity contrast Ratio: This has been revised to include references to the standards on which it was based as well as tie to color space specifications.
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LC-1414 David Keech <david.keech@bsi-global.com> on behalf of British Standards Instution, London, UK (archived comment)
12. The role of blinking and flashing content is confused -
http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/complete.html#time-limits-blink and
http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/#seizure-does-not-violate-terms

CLARIFICATION
________________________________________
From: David Keech [mailto:David.Keech@BSI-GLOBAL.COM]
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 7:46 AM
To: Gregg Vanderheiden
Subject: RE: comment #12 clarification
Gregg

Sorry for the delay in clarifying our comment.

Regarding our statement:

• “The role of blinking and flashing content is hopelessly confused - http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/complete.html#time-limits-blink and http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/#seizure-does-not-violate-terms"

The distinction between blinking and flashing is very difficult to understand and is apparently drawn from human factors research into visual display devices such as television, where fairly precise measurement and control of flash rates is possible (we assume).

On the web we anticipate that the exact nature of the flash/blink behaviour will be affected by local conditions such as monitor refresh and hardware performance.

Furthermore, given that there are numerous ways to make an item Flash on the web, through the use of combinations of CSS and Javascript among other techniques, how can flash/blink rate be reliably tested?

If content cannot blink for more than three seconds (where blinking means "turn on and off between 0.5 and 3 times per second") it is presumably acceptable that content blinks for 0.49 times per second for 2.99 seconds....Is this sensible?

The most reliable method is to disallow blinking/flashing, any other suggestion is virtually impossible to work with in our view.

Please let me know if there is still any confusion.

Regards

David Keech
BSI
ICT/0070/06
We have made the following changes to clarify the differences between blink and flash:

The following note was added to the definition of "blink":
Note: The slower blink is in contrast with flashing, which refers to rapid changes in brightness which can cause seizures. See general flash and red flash thresholds.

The following paragraph was added to the intent section of How to Meet Success Criterion 2.3.1:

"Flashing can be caused by the display, the computer rendering the image or by the content being rendered. The author has no control of the first two. They can be addressed by the design and speed of the display and computer. The intent of this criterion is to ensure that flicker that violates the flash thresholds is not caused by the content itself. For example, the content could contain a video clip or animated image of a series of strobe flashes or close-ups of rapid fire explosions."
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LC-605 David MacDonald <Befree@magma.ca> on behalf of working group member/ consultant (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

I think there are problems with the idea that someone can claim level 3 conformance if they do only 50% of the techniques that apply to their content. That means someone could claim Level 3 conformance and have an audio track that has a loud background when there is a Level 3 SC that specifically says don't do this. I realize that some Level three items are very difficult. But that is what level 3 is all about - going above and beyond. (If some of our Level 3 SC are unrealistically difficult then let's remove those ones) On the other hand, if we are just providing level 3 as a way to encourage people to provide extra accessibility then it should not be a Level but rather a separate advisory section of our guidelines. I don't think we can allow people to say they have reached a level of conformance while blatantly while breaking the GL or SC in that level. I think it undermines the integrity of our Guidelines. I think it will be a source of much confusion and conflict in the public and among disability groups.

Proposed Change:

Require 100% of Level 3 SC that apply to the content to be met in order to meet Level 3. If there are some SC that the group identifies as unrealistically difficult then remove them to a separate document called something like "going the extra mile."
We have changed the definition of Level AAA conformance so that all Level AAA Success Criteria that apply to the content types used must be satisfied. yes
LC-1427 David MacDonald <Befree@magma.ca>
We need a definition of “relationship� for the glossary as it pertains to SC 1.3.1


1.3.1 Information and relationships conveyed through presentation can be programmatically determined, and notification of changes to these is available to user agents, including assistive technologies. [How to meet 1.3.1]


Here is my recommendation:

Definition of *Relationships*:

"Meaningful associations between distinct chunks of content"

Examples of chunks that have relationships include:
-a heading and the paragraph which follows it;
-a section title and the subsections that are within it;
-a control and its label;
-the boxes in an organization or flow chart;
-and table cells and their headers

Note: "Chunks" could also be "Blocks" or "Pieces"
We have added a definition of "relationships" that reads, "meaningful associations between distinct pieces of content." yes
LC-1442 David MacDonald <Befree@magma.ca>
Currently, 2.1.1 is not clear that HTML fallback techniques for Javascript dropdown menus are sufficient. Nor is our conformance section clear that deficiences on one web unit can be made up on another web unit. For example the LongDesc (1.1) provides an alternative on a separate web unit. But our conformance is "web unit" based. We need to allow for this.

This came up because many corporate web sites are meeting 508 compliance by having a JavaScript dropdown menu where the top item is a keyboard accessible link that goes to a separate page that has all of the links that were in the dropdown menu.

WebAim recommends this technique here.

http://www.webaim.org/techniques/javascript/eventhandlers.php (see example 2)

Real examples are here:
http://www.cab-acr.ca/english/default.shtm
http://www.futurescholar.com/Home.htm

When I read 2.1.1 and I thought about the (per Web Unit) conformance it seemed to me that our current wording didn’t allow it. Ben thought it might be able to go in Guideline 4 but if someone had JavaScript in their Baseline then I think 2.1.1 would apply… I talked with Michael and Bruce and they both thought we should clarify that this is a viable navigation strategy.

Gregg responded:
>>>One has to be completely accessible except that there can be a link from an inaccessible part to an accessible version of that part if it can be viewed independently – and then you return. (this is in fact what we do with Longdesc). I would run this answer past group A though just to be sure before I used it (unless you are just using it in an issue summary going to a team anyway.

Recommend:

How about something like in 2.1.1

Situation: For pages that have script or programmatic pop down navigation menus when that technology is not in the baseline

1. Providing an HTML link to a place (on the same page or a separate page) with the navigation menu in HTML

If script in baseline - then you CAN use “Create HTML fallbacks for Javascript menus� OR you can just have js script menu with full keyboard access

If script not in baseline – you CAN “Create HTML fallbacks for Javascript menus�. Full keyboard access to menu does NOT satisfy SC.

Also: Add phrase to the conformance section that allows for make up alternatives on a separate Web Unit directly accessed from a web unit.

(longdesc and HTML fallbacks for JavaScript menus).
We have moved discussion of alternate versions of content to the Conformance section of the Guidelines, and we have clarified by adding the following conformance criterion:

4.) Alternate Versions: If the Web page does not meet all of the success criteria for a specified level, then a mechanism to obtain an alternate version that meets all of the success criteria can be derived from the nonconforming content or its URI, and that mechanism meets all success criteria for the specified level of conformance. The alternate version does not need to be matched page for page with the original (e.g. the alternative to a page may consist of multiple pages). If multiple language versions are available, then conforming versions are required for each language offered..

Note: If multiple language versions are available, then conformant versions are required for each language offered.
yes
LC-1449 David MacDonald <Befree@magma.ca>
How to Meet Success Criterion 2.5.1
2.5.1 If an input error is detected, the error is identified and described to the user in text. (Level 1)

There is no sufficient server side technique. Such as ASP, PHP etc...
I'm guess this is because we don't offer server side techniques on our site. But it brings up an issue that some people may think server side techniques are not sufficient because they are not listed. If we don't add anything to the "How To" document I think we need to make it clear that there are ways to meet the SC with server side programming and they are omitted from our Sufficient techniques because we do not do Server side exampes and not because they are not sufficient.
One of the original paridigms of the Web is to submit data to the server where a response is created and returned. Thus, there really isn't a need to identify server side techniques since this is the standard behavior. All of the techniques except those specifically identified as client side are implemented to some extent on the server. The Working group feels that no additional clarification is necessary. yes
LC-1450 David MacDonald <Befree@magma.ca>
Why is F36 Example 2 a deprecated example.

"Failure Example 2:
This is a deprecated example that submits a form when the user selects an option from the menu."

I think it is still an issue and it us used all the time.

We could also add to it that Blind users and users with hand tremors can easily make a mistake on which item on the dropdown menu to choose and they are taken to the wrong destination before they can correct it.

Therefore the technique can also be linked from 2.5.1. I think. Because it would also be a failure to that technique.
The term "deprecated" has been removed, as it is indeed a practice never endorsed by the WCAG WG and is not actually deprecated. We did not add the technique F36 to SC 2.5.1 because the issue is orthogonal, but we did add introductory text to the example to indicate that navigation to the wrong location is a frequent effect of this practice. yes
LC-1531 David MacDonald <Befree@magma.ca>
I recently was evaluating a corporate web site that had image text as a title for a list of links. They had the image in the <p> element so Jaws would not identify it as a heading. I think we need a sufficient technique in 1.3.1 or an example added to H42 that says something like:

"Using heading markup to identify image text that is acting as a heading."

An example would look something like this.
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<title>Cities of interest</title>
</head>
<body>
<h1><img src="../images/cities_of_interest.jpg" alt="cities of interest" width="91" height="95"/></h1>
<ul>
<li>Barcelona</li>
<li>New York</li>
<li>Paris</li>
</ul>
</body>
</html>
We have included your example and have created the new failure titled, "F64: Failure of SC 1.3.1 due to using changes in text presentation to convey information without using the appropriate markup or text." yes
LC-1311 David Sloan <dsloan@computing.dundee.ac.uk> on behalf of Digital Media Access Group (archived comment)
Response to WCAG 2.0

From the following UK organisations:

* JISC TechDis Service, Higher Education Academy Building, Innovation Way, York, YO10 5BR
* BECTA (British Educational Communications and Technology Agency), Millburn Hill Road, Science Park, Coventry, CV4 7JJ
* UKOLN, University of Bath, Bath, BA2 7AY
* JISC CETIS (Centre For Educational Technology Interoperability Standards), Research Institute for Enhancing Learning, Padarn, School of Education, University of Wales Bangor, Normal Site, Bangor, Gwynedd, LL57 2PZ
* Scottish Disability Team (SDT), Ewing Annexe, University of Dundee, Dundee, DD1 4HN
* Digital Media Access Group (DMAG), School of Computing, University of Dundee, Dundee, DD1 4HN

Contact: David Sloan, Digital Media Access Group (DMAG), School of Computing, University of Dundee, Dundee, DD1 4HN; dsloan @ computing.dundee.ac.uk

Summary

The above organisations, all active in the UK education/technology/disability field, broadly support the principles of inclusive Web design as set out by WCAG 2.0. We also have some reservations, many of which have been expressed elsewhere, over the practical application of WCAG 2.0 in its present form. We offer some general recommendations which, if followed, we believe will better serve Web content providers in the community in which we work.

Background

The 'Last Call' draft of version 2.0 of the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG) has, since publication in April, attracted a significant amount of public comment, much of it of a negative nature. The authors of this response are all organisations heavily involved in promoting the appropriate use of technology to make access to education in the UK by disabled people as easy and effective as possible. We realise the importance of what will be the successor to the current de facto global standard for web accessibility in influencing commissioners and developers of Web content and applications, and all believe that WCAG 2.0 must build on WCAG 1.0 to improve, rather than inhibit levels of accessibility online.

We do not wish to repeat other detailed responses by providing a line by line critique of the current draft. Instead we present a higher-level view, outlining our concerns and our support where appropriate.

General

We note the many other responses that have been submitted to WAI in response to WCAG, and while we share the concerns expressed over the likely difficulty many developers will have in applying WCAG to HTML development, we strongly support the need to present Web accessibility as something more than "just following guidelines".

We are also conscious of the difficulty of developing accessibility guidelines, while also emphasising that readers must also be familiar with the ways in which disabled people access and use the Web; and the role of authoring and browsing tools - and their limitations - in ensuring an optimally accessible Web.

Our involvement in education has influenced our belief that Web accessibility should be considered on two levels:

* Developing Web sites to minimise the chances of excluding access by people with sensory, physical or cognitive impairments.
* Using the potential of Web resources to improve access to real-world information, experiences and services for disabled people.

This requires a holistic approach to Web accessibility - where development is driven by enabling the target audience to access and use the site for the intended purpose in the intended environment, whatever that may be [1, 2, 3]. In the UK, the recent emergence of PAS 78 [4] has highlighted the importance of other factors in optimising Web accessibility beyond technical conformance.

We believe that the principles and guidelines set out in the WCAG 2.0 Last Call draft offer a solid platform on which to build on the two levels above. In particular, the technology-neutral approach adopted by WCAG supports authors in providing the best solution for the resource and audience in mind, whatever that may be. We further believe that the Baseline concept is an important step to enabling a more audience-focused approach to development, by allowing WCAG conformance to be specified in the context of a defined user environment that accurately represents reality.

We also note the tensions that appear to have emerged between the Web Standards movement and the Web Accessibility movement. We support the principle of open standards adoption, we know of the accessibility benefits that standards-conformance can bring; but we also realise that standards-compliance is not always equivalent to optimal accessibility of experiences, services and information for disabled people. Therefore we appreciate the difficulty that WAI has faced in deciding where and how to include designing to HTML (and other) standards within WCAG 2.0. Standards-conformance should be strongly encouraged; at the same time, considering the relationship between WCAG and disability legislation around the world, the potential situation of a Web site being declared unlawful (or being removed for fear of being unlawful) because it fails to validate to a particular technical standard, despite no evidence to indicate that a specific group of disabled people face undue discrimination, must be avoided.
Concerns

As noted, we are concerned at the level of negative reaction to WCAG, much of which has come from prominent individuals in the field of web accessibility, notably [5]. We echo these concerns:
Extent of supporting documentation and relationship between WCAG 2.0 and Techniques for HTML development

The amount of documentation supporting the guidelines is immense; increasing complexity of navigation between guidelines and supporting documentation. We have welcomed the appearance in recent months of high-quality supporting material that has appeared on the redesigned WAI web site. However, we fear that the split between general guidelines and non-normative direction for specific technology development may lead to inappropriate solutions being applied. Given that, initially, most users of WCAG 2.0 will be HTML authors, this complexity, and in particular the relationship between WCAG and HTML Techniques needs to be revisited.

Baseline

We reject the arguments expressed elsewhere that the Baseline concept promotes a return to browser-specific development. However we recognise that there is scope for authors to abuse the Baseline concept, which therefore needs to be defined more coherently. We would anticipate that in the UK, were a case of alleged discrimination under the DDA to come to court, any court decision should look at the baseline (if specified) and its appropriateness to the target audience, and therefore baseline definition becomes a critical task.
Support for people with learning difficulties/disabilities

We share concerns expressed by others over the lack of focus on supporting people with varying cognitive impairments. We would like to see more encouragement given to supporting people who have difficulty reading on-screen text, through for example encouraging appropriate use of multimedia alternatives if they exist or can easily be created, but we also realise that there remains much work to do in this area. Nevertheless we have lent our support to the sentiments expressed in the Formal Objection co-ordinated by Lisa Seeman and Jonathan Chetwynd.

Conformance

We feel that the way in which WCAG conformance has been addressed is excessively complex. In the UK, our legal obligations are to ensure that facilities and services are made accessible, and thus concentration should be on making tasks optimally accessible, and reporting on that success. The WCAG however deals with conformance at an artificial level - i.e. "Web unit", introducing as it does a new set of terminology that may confuse many people. We would prefer to see a more task-oriented approach to conformance, whereby lack of conformance requires a responsibility to document alternative routes to achieving task completion - this should be stated explicitly in the guidelines.

Suggestions

HTML application of WCAG

We see the most critical task as redefining the relationship between WCAG 2.0 and the WCAG 2.0 HTML Techniques. There is a need to support the most common WCAG 2.0 use case (those seeking support for HTML/XHTML development) by making it clear to developers what is and is not permitted in WCAG-conformant design. Clarification on the WCAG position on validation of HTML/CSS is also necessary, given the nature of many comments on the current draft and worries that WCAG conformance may promote increased use of invalid HTML.

NB We note strong support amongst Web developers for focus to move to amending WCAG 1.0 as a matter of urgency; and that development of WCAG 2.0 be continued longer-term in parallel with a redefinition of the role of second-generation Web Content Accessibility Guidelines in a world where there is increasing diversity in the nature and source of Web content (for example podcasts, collaborative online publishing areas, email discussion list archives, to name but a few), but where UAAG support by widely-used user agents is likely to remain disappointing. While we have indicated our support for the 'principles' approach that WCAG 2.0 has taken, we would support the WAI should it decide to refocus efforts in producing a revised WCAG 1.0 as an interim measure.

Amount of supporting documentation

There is a need to reduce the perceived amount of reading required. We assume that the errors and logical absurdities pointed out by other commentators will be addressed; however we would also like to see a reduction in the amount of new concepts that must be learned by a reader. Some examples illustrating key concepts within the guidelines would be a very useful aid in this area.

NB We note the recent appearance of the WCAG 2.0 Quick Reference - which is a major step in this area.

Conformance

To ensure a practically useful conformance system, there is a need to shift focus from 'Web units' to user tasks. Defining what can be done in a Web site, and which groups may find these tasks difficult or impossible, is we argue of more relevance that a report of an artificial entity's conformance against a set of checkpoints. WCAG conformance should be seen as a means to achieving accessible experiences, and not an end in its own right.

Baseline

Clarification of the concept is necessary so as to limit misinterpretations and potential abuses. If not already happening, there is an urgent need for WAI to work with influential agencies across the globe to ensure that appropriate and reasonable baselines are defined and published for specific sectors.

Web Standards v Web Accessibility

The balance between Web Standards and Web Accessibility is altogether more difficult to address. We realise that external developments will be difficult for WAI to control, but we strongly urge WAI to re-establish links with those involved in any rival developments so that we have harmony in the way we all seek to achieve the common goal of an optimally accessible Web.

References

1. Kelly, B., Sloan, D., Phipps, L., Petrie, H. and Hamilton, F. (2005) Forcing Standardization or Accommodating Diversity? A Framework for Applying the WCAG in the Real World. Proceedings of the 2005 International Cross-Disciplinary Workshop on Web Accessibility (W4A). http://www.ukoln.ac.uk/web-focus/papers/w4a-2005/
2. Kelly, B., Phipps, L. and Howell, C. (2005) Implementing A Holistic Approach To E-Learning Accessibility. In: Cook, J. and Whitelock, D. Exploring the frontiers of e-learning: borders, outposts and migration; ALT-C 2005 12th International Conference Research Proceedings, ALT Oxford. http://www.ukoln.ac.uk/web-focus/papers/alt-c-2005/
3. Sloan, D., Kelly, B., Heath, A., Petrie, H. Fraser, H. and Phipps, L. (2006) Contextual Web Accessibility - Maximizing the Benefit of Accessibility Guidelines. Proceedings of the 2006 International Cross-Disciplinary Workshop on Web Accessibility (W4A). http://www.ukoln.ac.uk/web-focus/papers/w4a-2006/
4. British Standards Institute (2006) Publicly Available Specification PAS 78:2006 Guide to good practice in commissioning accessible web sites. http://www.bsi-global.com/ICT/PAS78/index.xalter
5. Clark J (2006) To Hell with WCAG 2.0. A List Apart 217. http://www.alistapart.com/articles/tohellwithwcag2
* HTML application of WCAG

We have created a new Quick Reference document, http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/quickref/20070517/ , that provides a concise listing of the WCAG success criteria and the techniques for meeting them. The HTML techniques for each success criteria lead the lists.

Amount of supporting documentation

We have introduced the Quick Reference to provide a short summary of all the "How To Meet" information. We plan to break up the "Understanding" Document into modules, one for each success criterion. (The current consolidated document with all of the sections in it will also be available for those interested.) The techniques will also be available as separate documents. This makes a lot of documents but you will only need to look at the documents for the success criterion that you are interested in. Consider it a free book of support material for WCAG and another on its techniques, all conveniently linked from the guidelines and Quick Reference document.

* Conformance

We have included a provision requiring full processes to be accessible. We use the term Web page instead of Web unit. The basic unit of conformance, however, is still the Web page.

* Baseline

We have completely reworked the baseline concept and dropped the name. While it is still somewhat complex it is because the process is complex. We have eliminated as much ambiguity as we can from conformance.

* Web Standards and Web Accessibility

We have established links with other Web Standards groups and Developer groups as well. WCAG standards are now referenced in draft ISO standards. We are harmonizing with 508 standards in the US. And, we are working with BenToWeb, a project within the EU WAB Cluster.

It has been challenging to write success criteria that are technology neutral, testable, and easy to understand. We have taken great pains to write the success criteria so that they are technically accurate but technology neutral. We are using the Understanding document to make it easier to understand the implications of the success criteria, and to provide specific techniques for some technologies. However, we don't want to restrict the range of solutions by making the list of known solutions normative. We do not believe that we could update normative Understanding and Technique documents quickly enough to keep pace with the changes in technologies and user agents. The W3C process is long for any document.

This approach also allows WCAG 2.0 to avoid introducing some of the "until user agent" problems from WCAG 1.0.
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LC-573 Dr Philip J Naylor <P.J.Naylor@bristol.ac.uk> on behalf of University of Bristol (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Even after reading the \"Understanding...\" document, the difference between SCs 2.4.8 and 2.4.4 is very subtle and needs to be a lot clearer.
N.B. any link where the link text alone indicates its purpose will already meet SC 2.4.4.

Proposed Change:

Reword, along the lines of:
2.4.8 The purpose of each link can be programmatically determined from extra information related to the link.
We have reworded both SC 2.4.8 and SC 2.4.4 to clarify the differences. They now read:

2.4.4 The purpose of each link can be determined from the link text and its programmatically determined link context.
2.4.8 The purpose of each link can be identified from the link text.

where "Programmatically determined link context" is defined as:

1. Additional information that can be programmatically determined from relationships with a link; and
2.can be extracted, combined with the link text, and presented to users in different modalities.

Example 1: Screen readers provide commands to read the current sentence when focus is on a link.

Example 2: Examples of information that can be extracted, combined with link text, and presented to users in different modalities include text that is in the same sentence, paragraph, list, or table cell as the link or in a table header cell that is associated with the table cell that contains the link.
yes
LC-582 Dr. Gloria A. Reece <drgreece@alltel.net> on behalf of Georgia College & State University (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: GE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

I have reviewed the materials at this site and find that they are accurate.

Proposed Change:

From a user\'s and pedagogical perspective, can you simplify the documents so that they are easier for people to read? My students want to design accessible websites; however, they have difficulty interpreting the material at your site.
We have reworked the entire document to make it shorter and easier to read. This includes:
- Shortening the introduction
- Moving much of the discussion out of the guidelines and puttin it in the Understanding WCAG 2.0 document
- Shortening the conformance section and moving it after the guidelines
- Writing simpler guidelines
- Removing as many technical terms (jargon) as possible, replacing them with simpler language or their definitions
- Removing the nesting of definitions where we could (i.e. definitions that pointed to other definitions)
- Moving information about mapping between WCAG 1 and WCAG 2 to a separate support document (so it can be updated more easily)
- Creating a Quick Reference documents that has just the Guidelines, success criteria and the techniques for meeting the success criteria.
- Trying to word things in manners that are more understandable to different levels of Web expertise
- Adding short names/handles on each success criterion to make them easier to find and compare etc.
- Simplifying the conformance section
- Using plainer language wherever possible (e.g. – use “Web page� instead of “Web Unit�)
- Eliminating several new or unfamiliar terms. (authored unit, etc.)
- Making the whole document much shorter.
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LC-752 Eric Hansen 1 <ehansen@ets.org> on behalf of Educational Testing Service (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Many proposed edits to definitions, some editorial and some substantive, at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006Jun/att-0043/S5-glossary-EGH-05Jun2006-01.doc

Proposed Change:
yes
LC-1493 Eric Hansen 1 <ehansen@ets.org> on behalf of Educational Testing Service (archived comment)
authored component
an authored unit intended to be used as a part of another authored unit[What is the relationship between an authored unit and a Web unit? I really think that this needs to clarified]
authored unit
set of material created as a single body by an author[What really is this.. unrendered stuff?][I think that since claims are about web units, that authored units need to bear a clear relationship to web units… Ideally, the authored unit that is mentioned in this document would exist within a single web unit… I don’t see this going in that direction…..]
Example 1: a collection consisting of markup, a style sheet, and an image or audio clip.
Example 2: a set of [one or more than one????!!!!]Web pages intended to be viewed only as a unit or in sequence.[As opposed to what? I thought this was the definition of Web unit…..! Priority AAA. This term needs to be related to Web unit in a more precise way.]
Note: This definition is based on Glossary of Terms for Device Independence.
We have reformulated the success criteria and glossary to remove both "authored unit" and "authored component" from the guidelines. yes
LC-1494 Eric Hansen 1 <ehansen@ets.org> on behalf of Educational Testing Service (archived comment)
baseline (in this document)

[Priority a set of technologies that are used as a basis for determining conformance to WCAG 2.0. These technologies may include: markup languages (e.g., XHTML, XML, SMIL, etc.), programming languages (e.g., …), style sheets (e.g., …), data formats (e.g.,,image formats, video formats, audio formats, document formats), and APIs.

In defining the baseline, it is valuable to consider, among other things, the set of technologies that are expected to be supported by, enabled in user agents by members of the intended audience. [This is obviously not the only consideration… The original definition leans too hard on the assumption (expectation) but is not clear about whose assumption it is…..!]
[Original : “set of technologies assumed to be supported by, and enabled in, user agents� ]
Note: For more information on baselines and their use, refer to Technology Assumptions and the "baseline."
The conformance section of WCAG2 has been completely rewritten. The term "baseline" has been replaced by "accessibility supported Web technologies". The issue of what it means to be an accessibility-supported Web technology is addressed in the section "Accessibility Support of Web Technologies" at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#accessibility-support . yes
LC-1495 Eric Hansen 1 <ehansen@ets.org> on behalf of Educational Testing Service (archived comment)
2. viewport;[Needs definition]
The term "viewport" was taken from the User Agent Accessibility Guidelines. We have added the definition of viewport to the WCAG2 Glossary. yes
LC-1499 Eric Hansen 1 <ehansen@ets.org> on behalf of Educational Testing Service (archived comment)
multimedia
audio or video synchronized with another type of media and/or with time-based interactive components[What is meant by another media type. Does video plus captions count as multimedia? Do you need to refer to primary content? What are animations? Priority AAA]
We have revised the definition as follows:

multimedia
audio or video synchronized with another format for presenting information and/or with time-based interactive components

By this definition, video plus captions would be considered multimedia. However, since captions are alternatives for speech and sounds, it would be unlikely that a video with captions, but without sound, would be created.

Animations would be multimedia if they were synchronized with another medium such as audio or with time-based interactive components. If the animation contains only video information, then it would not be considered multimedia and would be covered under Guideline 1.1.
yes
LC-1500 Eric Hansen 1 <ehansen@ets.org> on behalf of Educational Testing Service (archived comment)
natural languages [Note from Eric. The remaining edits were made by Ruth Loew of ETS. She has a strong background in both linguistics and sign language]
languages whose rules have evolved through usage within human communities and which are used by humans to communicate, including spoken, written, and signed languages
We have changed the term from "natural language" to "human language" and have updated the definition.

human language

language that is spoken, written or signed (visually or tactilely) by humans to communicate with one another

Note: See also sign language.
yes
LC-1501 Eric Hansen 1 <ehansen@ets.org> on behalf of Educational Testing Service (archived comment)
presentation
rendering of the content and structure in a form that is intended for perception by the user[Priority AAA. As we know, whether the user can perceive is greatly affected by factors such as sensory disabilities.]
We have revised the definition to read:

presentation
rendering of the content in a form to be perceived by users
yes
LC-1502 Eric Hansen 1 <ehansen@ets.org> on behalf of Educational Testing Service (archived comment)
programmatically determined
determined by software from data provided in a user-agent-supported manner such that the user agents can extract and present this information to users <del>in different modalities</del>[Some user agents may present in one and only one modality. Plurality is not an essential part of the definition][I am not sure I fully understand this concept of programmatically determined]
The working group felt that the use of "in different modalities" here is important since it is meant that different user agents and assistive technologies (whose users may require that information be presented in different modalities) can access and present the information. In other words, if information could only be presented in a single modality, that information could not be programmatically determined. yes
LC-1510 Eric Hansen 1 <ehansen@ets.org> on behalf of Educational Testing Service (archived comment)
Web unit

[New:]

a collection of information identifiable by a single Uniform Resource Identifier (such as a URL) that consists of one or more resources and that is intended to be rendered together.

• Example1: A Web page and embedded media
• Example 2: An interactive or immersive environment addressable via a single URI.

[OLD version with comments:
“a collection of information, consisting of one or more resources, intended to be rendered together[By together, this may be simultaneous, or sequentially???], and identified by a single Uniform Resource Identifier (such as a URLs[Should both be singular, right?])
[Priority AAAA. I’d like to get greater clarity on this…..]
Note: This definition is based on the definition of Web page in Web Characterization Terminology & Definitions Sheet. The concept of simultaneity was removed to allow the term to cover interactive and scripted content.
Example 1: An interactive movie-like shopping environment accessed through a single URI, where the user navigates about and activates products to have them demonstrated, and moves them to a cart to buy them.[I thought that the shopping was considered a “process�…]
Example 2: A Web page including all embedded images and media.
[The notion of web unit is key in this document. Any characterization that is not explicitly tied into the notion of web unit has no normative force…! This included authored unit, authored component, content, supplemental content, etc.!] ]
We have modified the term "Web unit" to be "Web page" and have updated the definition. Because this term is used in multiple W3C specs, we can not make revisions to the definition that would make it inconsistent. We have, however, incorporated your suggestions in the examples of the definition of "Web page" at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#webpagedef .

Web page

a resource that is referenced by a URI and is not embedded in another resource, plus any other resources that are used in the rendering or intended to be rendered together with it

Note: Although any "other resources" would be rendered together with the primary resource, they would not necessarily be rendered simultaneously with each other.

Example 1: When you enter http://shopping.example.com/ in your browser you enter a movie-like interactive shopping environment where you visually move about a store dragging products off of the shelves around you into a visual shopping cart in front of you. Clicking on a product causes it to be demonstrated with a specification sheet floating alongside.

Example 2: A Web resource including all embedded images and media.

Example 3: A Web mail program built using Asynchronous JavaScript and XML (AJAX). The program lives entirely at http://mail.example.com, but includes an inbox, a contacts area and a calendar. Links or buttons are provided that cause the the inbox, contacts, or calendar to display, but do not change the URL of the page as a whole.

Example 4: A customizable portal site, where users can choose content to display from a set of different content modules.
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LC-739 Eric Hansen <ehansen@ets.org> on behalf of Educational Testing Service (archived comment)
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Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

• If non-text content is multimedia; live audio-only or live video-only content; a test or exercise that must use a particular sense; or is primarily intended to create a specific sensory experience; then text alternatives at least identify the non-text content with a descriptive text label. (For multimedia, see also Guideline 1.2 Provide synchronized alternatives for multimedia .)

This seems to be a significant retreat from WCAG 1.0….

Proposed Change:
The text in question does not represent a retreat from WCAG 1.0 requirements for pre-recorded audio, video, or multimedia. Rather, it outlines a series of exceptions where a descriptive label (rather than a text alternative that serves the same purpose and presents the same information as the non-text content) is appropriate.

Audio only and video only content that is prerecorded is required to have a text alternative that serves the same purpose and presents the same information as the non-text content at Level A in SC 1.1.1.

The first exception is for multimedia, which (in addition to being identified with a label in 1.1.1) is also addressed through requirements under Guideline 1.2.

The second exception is for *live* audio-only and video-only content. It is included as an exception because the working group feels that real-time captioning and audio description requires special skills, and should not be required at Level A.

Text alternatives are not required for a test or exercise that must use a particular sense because providing the text alternative would invalidate the test. For example, a spelling test provides an audio recording of a word that is to be spelled. A text alternative for the audio recording would provide the user with the correct answer and defeat the purpose of the test or exercise.

For non-text content that provides a specific sensory experience, such as classical music or visual art, it is difficult to develop testable success criteria for the long description for such content. However, you can provide a descriptive text label that at least identifies what it is. Additional techniques could be used to provide a more detailed description.
yes
LC-740 Eric Hansen <ehansen@ets.org> on behalf of Educational Testing Service (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

1.2.2 Audio descriptions of video, or a full multimedia text alternative including any interaction, are provided for prerecorded multimedia.

This is a significant change from WCAG 1.0 (allowing the FMTA to replace the audio descriptions.

Proposed Change:
Yes this is a significant change. It was done with the realization that audio description will not work for some training videos where there is no gap in dialog and important visual information. It also allows a full text equivalent as an alternative for those cases where that is easier -- in recognition that a text alternative has always been viewed as sufficient. tocheck
LC-743 Eric Hansen <ehansen@ets.org> on behalf of Educational Testing Service (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Note: A 20 decibel difference in sound level is roughly four times (4x) quieter or louder. Background sound that meets this requirement will be approximately four times (4x) quieter than the foreground audio content.)

Is this correct???

Proposed Change:

Per the definition of decibels, background sound that meets this requirement will be approximately four times (4x) quieter than the foreground audio content.
We accept your suggestion for a simplified note on this success criterion. However, there was another suggestion as well so the simplified note now reads:
"NOTE: Background sound that meets this requirement will be approximately one quarter as loud as the foreground speech content."

Note also that the success criterion now talks about foreground speech content rather than foreground audio.
yes
LC-745 Eric Hansen <ehansen@ets.org> on behalf of Educational Testing Service (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

2.2.2 Content does not blink for more than three seconds, or a method is available to stop all blinking content in the Web unit or authored component.

If the claim is about Web units, then why does this refer to “or authored component.�??? Isn’t it redundant? If not then this really needs to be clarified. Same issue in later reference “authored� stuff…

2.4.6 When a Web unit or authored component is navigated sequentially, components receive focus in an order that follows relationships and sequences in the content.

It seems to me that the term authored components does not belong in the normative part of the document unless the relationship between an authored component and a Web unit has been clearly defined in the glossary….!

Proposed Change:
We have changed the success criteria to use the term "Web page" instead of "Web unit or authored component". yes
LC-748 Eric Hansen <ehansen@ets.org> on behalf of Educational Testing Service (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

4.1.1 Web units or authored components can be parsed unambiguously, and the relationships in the resulting data structure are also unambiguous.

I find this checkpoint very hard to comprehend. It seems that it should be handled by a success criterion that requires conforming to spec. But I looked at some of the background discussion. I am not sure now how to improve.


Proposed Change:
To make this requirement easier to understand, we have reworded SC 4.1.1 as follows:

Content implemented using markup languages has elements with complete start and end tags, except as allowed by their specifications, and are nested according to their specifications.

Note: Start and end tags that are missing a critical character in their formation, such as a closing angle bracket or a mismatched attribute value quote are not complete.

The working group looked at this topic carefully over an extended period of time and concluded that requiring strict adherence to all aspects of specifications does not necessarily result in an increase in accessibility. For example, it is possible to create invalid pages that present no accessibility barriers. It is also possible in certain situations to enhance accessibility through the use of markup that is not part of the specification.

The working group must work within its charter and only include things that directly affected accessibility. Some aspects of "use technologies according to specification" and validity do relate to accessibility. However, others do not. So requiring validity would take us beyond our charter. We do recommend it though and it is our #1 technique listed for conforming to SC 4.1.1.
yes
LC-749 Eric Hansen <ehansen@ets.org> on behalf of Educational Testing Service (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

4.2.1 At least one version of the content meets all level 1 success criteria, but alternate version(s) that do not meet all level 1 success criteria may be available from the same URI.

With all the effort to define terms like Web unit, authored unit, authored component, do we really need another term "content"?

Proposed Change:
The term "content" is important to define because it defines the scope of information that the WCAG guidelines can apply to. The term is used in multiple places throughout the guidelines and success criteria. We have, however, replaced the term "Web unit" with "Web page" and have reformulated the success criteria and glossary to remove both "authored unit" and "authored component" from the guidelines. yes
LC-750 Eric Hansen <ehansen@ets.org> on behalf of Educational Testing Service (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

4.2.2 Content meets the following criteria even if the content uses a technology that is not in the chosen baseline:

This presumably applies to technologies even beyond those explicitly listed as being used, right.? Needs to be clarified

Proposed Change:
We have moved this topic to the conformance section of the guidelines. We have clarified this conformance criterion with the following wording:

Non-Interference: If Web technologies that are not accessibility supported are used on a page, they do not block the ability of the users to access the rest of the page. Specifically:

1. No Keyboard Trap: If focus can be moved to technologies that are not accessibility supported using a keyboard interface, then focus can be moved away from that content using only a keyboard interface, and the method for doing so is described before the content is encountered and in a way that meets all Level A success criteria.
2. Three Flashes or Below Threshold: To minimize the risk of seizures due to photosensitivity, content does not contain anything that flashes more than three times in any one second period, or the flash is below the general flash and red flash thresholds (see Success Criterion 2.3.1).
3. Non support: The content continues to work and meet the conformance requirements even if the (non accessibility-supported) technology is turned off or not supported by a user agent.
yes
LC-751 Eric Hansen <ehansen@ets.org> on behalf of Educational Testing Service (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Complete revision of conformance section proposed at
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006Jun/att-0042/S3-conformance-EGH-05Jun2006-01.doc

Proposed Change:
The conformance section of WCAG 2.0 has been completely rewritten. Many of these suggestions were addressed, and some are no longer applicable. yes
LC-659 Felix Miata <mrmazda@ij.net> on behalf of NA (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: GE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Guideline 1.4 is the only part of the whole document I was able to find that addresses any component of the most basic element of accessibility to any non-blind user attempting access entirely visually: legibility. Thus legibility coverage appears to be inadequate, making the entire document inadequate.

If text content cannot be read at or all without pain, it is functionally inaccessible. Nothing else matters when the content cannot be read. Other very important criteria factor heavily in determining basic legibility in addition to the guideline 1.4 coverage:

1-font size
2-font family

Reduction of font size from the user preferred size, and substitution of an author chosen font family for a user preferred font family, both cause a reduction in legibility, and thus a reduction in accessibility.

The primary message from http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/font-size is hereby incorporated by reference, and should be a part of the guideline. Additionally, please digest http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/accessibility.html for more detail and background on legibility as relates to accessibility.

Proposed Change:

Legibility is so fundamental a component of accessibility that it demands its own subpart, with the current 1.4 a component thereof. The guideline in addition to the current 1.4 should spell out:

1-Avoid font size reduction from the user preference for primary (e.g. centrally located paragraph text) content. Never size text in px or any absolute unit.
2-Minimize font size reduction from the user preference for secondary content.
3-Use utmost care, preferably avoid entirely, substituting any font family for the user\'s preferred font family for primary content. Font family substitution should be limited to branding and secondary content.
4-Only users are in position to suitably determine the font size and font family required to provide adequate legibility.
5-Not all users are empowered to compensate, either at all or to sufficient degree, when authors deviate from these guidelines. (e.g., users of computers situated in public libraries or kiosks)
Although text resizing and other font configurations such as font family are primarily user agent functions, we have added new success criteria to address the author's responsibility:

Level AA: Visually rendered text can be resized without assistive technology up to 200 percent and down to 50 percent without loss of content or functionality.

Level AAA: Visually rendered text can be resized without assistive technology up to 200 percent and down to 50 percent without loss of content or functionality and in a way that does not require the user to scroll horizontally.
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LC-586 Geoff Freed <geoff_freed@wgbh.org> on behalf of WGBH National Center for Accessible Media (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: ED
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Re the statement, \"Following these guidelines will also make your Web content more usable to many other users, including older users.\": Older users?! Really? How old? Over 40? 50? 60? Is there proof that \"older users\" need help using the Web just because they\'re over a certain age?

Proposed Change:

Delete this sentence.
Not all older people have disabilities. However, the percentage increases steadily and sharply with age. We have clarified this by changing the sentence to "Because many people develop vision, hearing, cognitive or motion impairments as they age, following these guidelines will make your Web content more usable by many older users." tocheck
LC-590 Geoff Freed <geoff_freed@wgbh.org> on behalf of WGBH National Center for Accessible Media (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: GE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

My main objection to WCAG 2.0 is that it is simply too big. Brevity has been abandoned in favor of excessive, often pedantic, discussion. Developers coming to WCAG 2.0 will want immediate, accessible answers that address their problems. Instead, they must follow multiple links in order to gain information about even the simplest topics (e.g., text alternatives). It\'s often necessary to wade through lengthy explanations and rationalizations before arriving at useful information, and this information is frequently cloaked in roundabout language (\"baseline?\" \"Web unit?\") that never makes a direct point.

If the W3C releases WCAG 2.0 in anything resembling its current form-- not just the guidelines document, but the related documents as well, because WCAG 2.0 can\'t really be used without them-- it must then be prepared to defend this document from backlash by a perplexed, bewildered general public. WCAG 2.0 is longer and more labyrinthine than most other recommendations published by the W3C. What does that say about accessibility? It\'s hard to achieve? It\'s overly complex? It\'s a big pain in the neck? If the WAI wants these *voluntary* guidelines to be widely adopted, they must be re-written in a concise, direct manner.

Proposed Change:
We have reworked the entire document to make it shorter and easier to read. This includes:
- Shortening the introduction
- Moving much of the discussion out of the guidelines and puttin it in the Understanding WCAG 2.0 document
- Shortening the conformance section and moving it after the guidelines
- Writing simpler guidelines
- Removing as many technical terms (jargon) as possible, replacing them with simpler language or their definitions
- Removing the nesting of definitions where we could (i.e. definitions that pointed to other definitions)
- Moving information about mapping between WCAG 1 and WCAG 2 to a separate support document (so it can be updated more easily)
- Creating a Quick Reference documents that has just the Guidelines, success criteria and the techniques for meeting the success criteria.
- Trying to word things in manners that are more understandable to different levels of Web expertise
- Adding short names/handles on each success criterion to make them easier to find and compare etc.
- Simplifying the conformance section
- Using plainer language wherever possible (e.g. – use “Web page� instead of “Web Unit�)
- Eliminating several new or unfamiliar terms. (authored unit, etc.)
- Making the whole document much shorter.
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LC-603 Geoff Freed <geoff_freed@wgbh.org> on behalf of WGBH National Center for Accessible Media (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

These comments also apply to 1.4.1:

1. Is it realistic to expect authors to do the math to figure out the luminosity contrast ratio?
2. Why isn\'t MathML used to represent the equations?
3. If the only difference between 1.4.1 and 1.4.3 is the ratio (5:1 vs 10:1), then drop one ratio and therefore one needless requirement.

Proposed Change:

1. Use MathML to represent the equations.
2. Eliminate either 1.4.1 or 1.4.3, preferably the latter.
3. Reconsider the expectation that authors will determine contrast through the use of the luminosity contrast ratio. Did anyone in the working group poll authors to see if this is realistic?
Authors do not have to use the luminosity contrast ratio to determine their contrast ratio. In the resources section, a list of tools have been provided that already do this. One uses an eye dropper and is very easy to use. We have added a note to the intent sections of both SC 1.4.3 (formerly 1.4.1) and SC 1.4.5 (formerly 1.4.3) that refers to the list of these tools to make it more obvious that these tools are available.

Because support for MathML varies across browsers and platforms, because the information from the equations can be mis-presented in some cases, and because it was possible to represent the luminosity contrast ratio in ASCII, a MathML version of the equations was not included in the guidelines themselves. We have, however, added a note to the definition which points to a MathML version. Should support MathML change prior to publication, we will include this version in the guidelines themselves.

The working group determined that there is a significant improvement of readability between 10:1 and 5:1 but that 5:1 was sufficient in most cases and 10:1 is very demanding, basically white on black or vice versa.
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LC-649 Geoff Freed <geoff_freed@wgbh.org> on behalf of WGBH National Center for Accessible Media (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):


Regarding baseline: I\'ve read and re-read all the documentation about baseline and I just don\'t understand it. It seems like baseline is a great way to blame the victim: an author can claim that a user\'s accessibility problems are, in fact, strictly his or her problems. The answer to any complaint is, \"That\'s not in my baseline, so I didn\'t test for it.\" The only way it might be useful is in a closed environment, such as an Intranet, where authors really do know what technologies users have. And the fact that baseline requires an entirely separate explanatory document indicates to me that it is *far* too complex to be useful.

Regarding scoping: \"Scoping\" of a conformance claim introduces a perfect loophole for anyone who simply doesn\'t want to do the work required to make things accessible. Take Example 2: \"A site has a collection of videos for which it is not required to and does not want to claim accessibility.\" \"Not required?\" But aren\'t captions required by SC 1.2? Is \"I don\'t want to\" now a valid excuse? Further, Example 2 states that a scoped conformance claim of \"I don\'t want to caption/describe the videos\" is valid as long as the videos are played only in a standalone player. But if the videos are embedded in a Web page, suddenly they *must* be made accessible...? I don\'t see the distinction. Video is video. If I\'ve created an on-line physics curriculum that uses a standalone player to show an entire semester of lectures, you\'re saying that these videos do *not* have to be accessible if I \"scope\" my conformance claim to exclude these materials?


Proposed Change:


1. Delete baseline.
2. Delete scoping.
The conformance section of WCAG2 has been completely rewritten. The term "baseline" has been replaced by "accessibility-supported Web technologies". The issue of what it means to be an accessibility-supported Web technology is addressed in the section "Accessibility Support of Web Technologies" at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#accessibility-support .

The guidelines and success criteria remain technology-independent, in order to allow conformance using any Web technology. In choosing Web technologies, authors must use technologies that are supported by users' assistive technologies as well as the accessibility features in browsers and other user agents. Such technologies are referred to as "accessibility supported."

To make it easier for authors who may not be familiar with assistive technologies, documented lists of technologies that are accessibility supported will be available from WAI and other sources.

The "Scope out" language has now been removed from the Conformance section and conformance is now based on Web page(s): that is a primary resource referenced by a URI and any other resources that are rendered simultaneously with it with the understanding that different sub elements or resources may be rendered simultaneously with the primary resource at different points in time.
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LC-1042 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
Content negotiation: In Conformance it says "Note: If multiple representations can be retrieved from a URI through content negotiation, then the conformance claim would be for the Web unit that is returned when no negotiation is conducted (unless the server returns an error for that condition, in which case one of the negotiated forms must comply)". Does the WG mean that if there is content negotiation, that only one version of the content need be accessible? What about if one version of content provides more information than the accessible version? That would be a violation of WCAG1 and should be a violation of WCAG2

Proposed Change:

Firstly it should be required that all content from different representations is available from the accessible version. Secondly, at Level 3 it should be required that all versions of content should be accessible.
The content negotiation requirement has been removed.

Alternate version is defined as "a version that provides all of the same information and functionality in the same human language and is as up to date as the non-conforming content"

Because multiple versions may be provided to accommodate different sets of accessibility-supported Web technologies, to be tuned to specific disabilities, or to accommodate vagaries of different browsers, WCAG does not require that all versions satisfy all the success criterion for any level of conformance. Only one version needs to fully conform.

We do require that:

4.) Alternate Versions: If the Web page does not meet all of the success criteria for a specified level, then a mechanism to obtain an alternate version that meets all of the success criteria can be derived from the nonconforming content or its URI, and that mechanism meets all success criteria for the specified level of conformance. The alternate version does not need to be matched page for page with the original (e.g. the alternative to a page may consist of multiple pages). If multiple language versions are available, then conforming versions are required for each language offered.
yes
LC-1043 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
Definition: "For all non-text content one of the following is true…if non-text content is pure decoration, or used only for visual formatting, or if it is not presented to users, it is implemented such that it can be ignored by assistive technology". What is the definition of assistive technology? If one assistive technology behaves one way and another assistive technology another, then how should this SC be followed?

Proposed Change:

Redefine this SC
Assistive technology is defined in the Glossary at http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/appendixA.html#atdef .

Technology-specific techniques define sufficient mechanisms for marking non-text content so that it will be ignored by AT. If there are differences in behavior among different AT, these should be noted in the User Agent notes for that technique.
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LC-1046 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
2.2.1 & 2.2.3: As previously discussed, further details should be provided when timeouts is an important part of a real-time event or an activity when timing is essential.

Proposed Change:

I am happy to write an additional set of criteria (with Loretta)
We have modified the fourth bullet of SC 2.2.1 to be testable by removing the word "important". And we have moved the auction example from How To Meet SC 2.2.3 to How To Meet SC 2.2.1. tocheck
LC-1047 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
2.2.2: Why is blinking allowed for three seconds?

Proposed Change:

Explain the meaning behind this SC
A number had to be chosen for testability per the WCAG requirements document. The following rationale for 3 seconds is provided in "How to Meet Success Criterion 2.2.2":

"Three seconds was chosen because it is long enough to get a user's attention, but not so long that a user can not wait it out if necessary in order to use the page and the blinking blocks their ability to focus on the page."
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LC-1048 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
2.2.5: This should be L1 or there should be a L1 equivalent.

Proposed Change:

For example, it should not be possible to update a page every ten seconds under L1 otherwise people using screen readers won't be able to access all the content before the page refreshes.
Automatic page refreshes or updates are a type of time limit covered by SC 2.2.1, which is a Level A success criterion.

See SC 2.2.1 at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#time-limits-required-behaviors .
yes
LC-1051 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
2.4.4: Image maps (and images that are also links) are not mentioned and it could be interpreted that they are outlawed by this SC

Proposed Change:

Include image maps and image links (with appropriate ALT attributes) in the examples
Examples of image maps and image links are included in techniques H24 (Providing a text alternative for the area element) and H30 (Providing link text that describes the purpose of a link for anchor elements). Since they appear to be easy to miss, we modified the title of technique H24 to make it clearer that the area elements are in image maps, and included references between these techniques in the Related Techniques section. yes
LC-1067 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
Relative vs absolute units: There should be a WCAG2 equivalent at Level 1 for this WCAG1 checkpoint. The ability to change the text size in a page is very important to people with vision impairments. The ability to resize tables according to the size of the screen is very important to people using PDAs

Proposed Change:

Create a new SC outlawing absolute units (I am happy to write this)
Although resizing is primarily a user agent function, we have added new success criteria to address the author's responsibility for supporting text resizing:

Level AA: Visually rendered text can be resized without assistive technology up to 200 percent and down to 50 percent without loss of content or functionality.

Level AAA: Visually rendered text can be resized without assistive technology up to 200 percent and down to 50 percent without loss of content or functionality and in a way that does not require the user to scroll horizontally.
yes
LC-897 Giorgio Brajnik <giorgio@dimi.uniud.it> on behalf of University of Udine, Italy (archived comment)
the def. of level 1/2/3 is vague: what does “a minimum�, “enhanced�, “additional� mean? are you asserting that accessibility is a property that can be totally ordered over a ordered scale, as these adjectives are suggesting?

Proposed Change:

try to refer to defineable and measurable parameters; or, more reaslistically, say that this is an assumption that you may describe in details when presenting each success level.
The description of conformance levels in WCAG 2 has been rewritten to clarify the differences (see http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#overview-levels ):

The word "levels" does not mean that some success criteria are more important than others. Each success criterion in WCAG 2.0 is essential to some users, and the levels build upon each other. However, even content that conforms at AAA (triple-A) may not be fully accessible to every person with a disability.

* In general, Level A success criteria achieve accessibility by supporting assistive technology while putting the fewest possible limits on presentation. Thus people with a wide range of disabilities using a wide range of assistive technologies, from voice input and eye-tracking devices to screen readers and screen magnifiers, are able to access content in different ways. In other words, Level A success criteria support the ability of both mainstream and specialized user agents to adapt content to formats that meet their users' needs.

* The success criteria in Level AA provide additional support for assistive technology. At the same time, they also support direct access to content by the many people who use conventional user agents without assistive technology. In general, Level AA success criteria place more limits on visual presentation and other aspects of content than the success criteria in Level A.

* Level AAA success criteria increase both direct access and access through assistive technology. They place tighter limits on both presentation and content.
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LC-898 Giorgio Brajnik <giorgio@dimi.uniud.it> on behalf of University of Udine, Italy (archived comment)
and what do “can be reasonably� and “cannot necessarily be applied� mean?

Proposed Change:

again, this should be clearly stated as an assumption, when presenting each single criterion. From these “non definitions� readers would get that there is an increase of required effort (as conformance levels increases), an increase in accessibility (whatever that means), but would not be given any means for understanding which will the benefits that visitors of the website will get. And if these benefits are worth the cost (of “non reasonably� applying certain techniques).
The description of conformance levels in WCAG 2 has been rewritten to clarify the differences (see http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#overview-levels ).

The accessibility benefits of meeting each success criterion are described in the Benefits section of the corresponding How To Meet document.
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LC-899 Giorgio Brajnik <giorgio@dimi.uniud.it> on behalf of University of Udine, Italy (archived comment)
in particular the only difference between L1 and L2 is that one is “minimum� accessibility and the other is “enhanced�. Why distinguishing them? if both sets of techniques can be equally easily applied, why should one want to go for the minimum?

Proposed Change:

provide a definition of these levels that refer to benefits that can make sense to people managing a website, so that they can take informed decisions as to whether to achieve a higher level or not.
The description of conformance levels in WCAG 2 has been rewritten to clarify the differences (see http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#overview-levels ). tocheck
LC-900 Giorgio Brajnik <giorgio@dimi.uniud.it> on behalf of University of Udine, Italy (archived comment)
the sentence “all wcag20 statements are testable� is a bit strong! Only a formally defined language can express sentences that can be formally, and therefore objectively, verified. And actually not even that.

The repeatability of assessments that you mention is one hypothesis; you should clearly say this; or otherwise provide evidence to support this (relatively important but demanding) claim.

Proposed Change:

I'd suggest to make it weaker, by saying that it is your assumption (and hope) that they are testable by somebody having a certain level of experience in .... and (perhaps) when following a certain procedure. No studies have been performed (yet) in order to determine is such a property is true.
We changed the language from a statement of fact 'that they ARE testable' to "All WCAG 2.0 success criteria are written to be testable".
The sentences following that sentence make it clear the person must be qualified. The qualifications to be a WCAG 2.0 tester are not formalized, and the quantification of knowledge skills and abilities to do so is beyond the scope of this document.
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LC-902 Giorgio Brajnik <giorgio@dimi.uniud.it> on behalf of University of Udine, Italy (archived comment)
the def of user agents include assistive tech, and that is clear. But what do you mean with “... as long as accessible user agents support the technology�? that a website useing a tech. not supported by any accessible user agent could never be claimed to be wcag20 conformant? also the clause “...user agents including AT� is confusing. If AT is already a user agent (or part of it), then the clause is not needed. But if you want to say that the technology should be supported by at least an accessible user agent that is compatible with at least one AT, you should say it clearly.
Yes, a website that relies upon technology that is not supported by any accessible user agent could not claim to be WCAG20 conformant. It could, however use non accessibility-supported technology as long as there was an alternate version that provides all of the same information and functionality.

The guidelines often mention assistive technology explicitly when discussing user agent support because it is often crucial that the user agent provide support to assistive technology. This is spelled out explicitly in the definition of assistive technology in the glossary, but the working group thought it was important to highlight this. We have edited the guidelines to make it as clear as possible that the mention of assistive technology in this context is qualifying the preceding use of "user agent", not in addition to it.
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LC-903 Giorgio Brajnik <giorgio@dimi.uniud.it> on behalf of University of Udine, Italy (archived comment)
if content is “info communicated to user� then it does not include code and markup. IMO a person senses, perceives, understands signals sent over some medium by a physical device, and decides, plans an action, and acts physically on some device. Information can only be “sent� or “received� in this way (up to now). Code and markup is being sent to the user agent, which contributes to trasforming them into signals. But code is never information, as long as a web user is involved.
Thank you for pointing this out. The new definition is now:
"information and sensory experience to be communicated to the user by means of a user agent, as well as code or markup that define the structure, presentation, and interactions associated with those elements"
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LC-905 Giorgio Brajnik <giorgio@dimi.uniud.it> on behalf of University of Udine, Italy (archived comment)
i don't think that's a proper and useful definition; arithmetic theory is a collection of facts and inferential rules; but I wouldn't say that saying “1+1 equals 2� is providing information.

Proposed Change:

at least refer to what others said about it; eg Bateson defined information as “the difference that makes a difference�
The meaning here is the common meaning of the word. Per a rule to not keep words in glossary that are used in their standard dictionary defined way, we have removed 'information' from our glossary. tocheck
LC-908 Giorgio Brajnik <giorgio@dimi.uniud.it> on behalf of University of Udine, Italy (archived comment)
the problem is that in the conformance statement one needs to refer to a baseline, but wcag20 does not prescribe how a baseline is defined and what kind of mechanisms it should include. Could a conformance statement be referring to a baseline defined solely as “netscape 4 on windows 95�? would this be a valid conformance claim?
The conformance section has been completely rewritten, and the term "baseline" has been replaced by "accessibility-supported Web technologies". What constitutes accessibility support is now clearly defined. Note that these technologies are the formats used for content. They are not user agents. So "netscape 4 on windows 95" would not be a valid tecnology in a conformance claim. tocheck
LC-910 Giorgio Brajnik <giorgio@dimi.uniud.it> on behalf of University of Udine, Italy (archived comment)
it is not that the content can be parsed unambiguosly or not. That is a property of the language, not of the processor of the language. If the language is ambiguous then a parser could take arbitrary decisions in interpreting the sentences. Like Italian. HTML, not even 2.0, was never ambiguous. And if user agents were strict since the beginning, web authors would have never been allowed to write incorrect html.

Proposed Change:

what 411 should say is that authors should write syntactically correct code, which is what the techniques say.
To make this requirement easier to understand, we have reworded SC 4.1.1 to clarify that it must be possible to parse content without the need for user agent repair. The revised SC reads as follows:

4.1.1 Content implemented using markup languages has elements with complete start and end tags, except as allowed by their specifications, and are nested according to their specifications. (Level A)

Note: Start and end tags that are missing a critical character in their formation, such as a closing angle bracket or a mismatched attribute value quote are not complete.
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LC-911 Giorgio Brajnik <giorgio@dimi.uniud.it> on behalf of University of Udine, Italy (archived comment)
values that can be set by users should also be settable by a program? which values?
Any values of any variables that are settable by the user using the user interface. Basically this means that if you can set a value (of anything) from a user interface in Web content, then a person using software (such as AT) should be able to set the value from that AT. tocheck
LC-912 Giorgio Brajnik <giorgio@dimi.uniud.it> on behalf of University of Udine, Italy (archived comment)
... all user interface components...: you mean that each single DOM element that has perceivable effects on some user needs to have name and roles defined? eg every <p>?
We have added a definition of user interface component to indicate that they present an abstraction with which users can interact. See http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#user-interface-componentdef . tocheck
LC-913 Giorgio Brajnik <giorgio@dimi.uniud.it> on behalf of University of Udine, Italy (archived comment)
for example the word “weekend� is commonly used by Italians, and usually pronounced similarly to English. However the success criteria do not prescribe that it is correctly marked up (apparently).
When words have become part of the surrounding language in this way, it is not necessary to indicate a language change.

We have added the following to the Intent section of SC 3.1.2 to clarify that such uses often do not need to be marked up:

Frequently, when the natural language of text appears to be changing for a single word, that word has become part of the language of the surrounding text. Because this is so common in some languages, single words are not included in this success criterion.
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LC-914 Giorgio Brajnik <giorgio@dimi.uniud.it> on behalf of University of Udine, Italy (archived comment)
what is a primary resource?
Thank you for catching this error. We have removed the phrase "or other primary resources" from the success criterion. tocheck
LC-916 Giorgio Brajnik <giorgio@dimi.uniud.it> on behalf of University of Udine, Italy (archived comment)
the criterion is ambiguous/or even empty: one could always be conformant to this by saying that the set of web resources consists merely of the webunits that share the same order. So if on my website I put the same 5 links in different orders within the pages, they are still ok with 323, because each web page makes its own set of webunits.
We have revised this success criterion to reference a "set of Web pages" and have included a definition for that term:

set of Web pages:
collection of Web pages that have a specific relationship to each
other and that are created as a body of work by an author, group or organization.
Note: Different language versions would be considered different bodies of work.
Examples: A set of Web pages that make up a report, a test, an exercise, a catalog, or an application.
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LC-917 Giorgio Brajnik <giorgio@dimi.uniud.it> on behalf of University of Udine, Italy (archived comment)
and how about systems that adapt their gui to the behavior of the specif user or of a group of similar users? (for example because the user agent sends an ID to the server that identifies the user as a blind person?) are these non conformant websites?
This success criterion applies to the logical order and default presentation of the content. This success criterion does not prohibit choices in adaptive interfaces; enabling adaptive interfaces and alternate presentations is a goal of WCAG2. However, the user still needs to initiate the change in order, even if the change is initiated by global actions such as selecting preferences in a user agent or using a user agent with adaptive behavior. We have added this explanation to the Intent Section of the How To Meet document. tocheck
LC-918 Giorgio Brajnik <giorgio@dimi.uniud.it> on behalf of University of Udine, Italy (archived comment)
“content that changes the meaning of a web unit�? but a web unit is defined as “a collection of information ...� and content as “information to be communicated� how can a content change the meaning of other content? It surely can (eg adding a “not� in front of a sentence might change its meaning). Is this what 321 wants to prevent?
Web pages do indeed contain content. And if that content changes to other content (with a different meaning) at a time that is unexpected, it can be missed or generate confusion. This is what we are referring to. With regard to your specific question about adding the word "not" to a page: That is an interesting example. Normally, changing a single word on a page would not be considered a change of context. However, if the individual has read past that point and the addition of the word changes the meaning of the whole page (for example from supporting or agreeing with something to disagreeing with it) then it would indeed be a change of context to the user and it would be covered here for obvious reasons. tocheck
LC-919 Giorgio Brajnik <giorgio@dimi.uniud.it> on behalf of University of Udine, Italy (archived comment)
to me the distinction between L1 L2 L3 is arbitrary. violation of any of them is likely to hinder some user, and they seem to me equally difficult or easy to achieve
The description of conformance levels in WCAG 2 has been rewritten to clarify the differences (see http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#overview-levels ):

The word "levels" does not mean that some success criteria are more important than others. Each success criterion in WCAG 2.0 is essential to some users, and the levels build upon each other. However, even content that conforms at AAA (triple-A) may not be fully accessible to every person with a disability.

* In general, Level A success criteria achieve accessibility by supporting assistive technology while putting the fewest possible limits on presentation. Thus people with a wide range of disabilities using a wide range of assistive technologies, from voice input and eye-tracking devices to screen readers and screen magnifiers, are able to access content in different ways. In other words, Level A success criteria support the ability of both mainstream and specialized user agents to adapt content to formats that meet their users' needs.

* The success criteria in Level AA provide additional support for assistive technology. At the same time, they also support direct access to content by the many people who use conventional user agents without assistive technology. In general, Level AA success criteria place more limits on visual presentation and other aspects of content than the success criteria in Level A.

* Level AAA success criteria increase both direct access and access through assistive technology. They place tighter limits on both presentation and content.
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LC-920 Giorgio Brajnik <giorgio@dimi.uniud.it> on behalf of University of Udine, Italy (archived comment)
“entered� and “exit� should be defined in terms of focus changes
We have changed this into a conformance requirement and changed the wording to be:
"If focus can be moved to technologies that are not accessibility supported using a keyboard interface, then focus can be moved away from that content using only a keyboard interface, and the method for doing so is described before the content is encountered and in a way that meets all Level A success criteria."
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LC-921 Giorgio Brajnik <giorgio@dimi.uniud.it> on behalf of University of Udine, Italy (archived comment)
a “small class of input�? any gesture (which is by nature time-dependent) that requires a mouse by definition cannot be done with a keyboard. Similarly for a pointing pen (like signing on a screen). or using a joystick to fly a virtual airplane. I think that as long as the user clicks with the mouse then that can be reasonably easy and similarly be implemented with keyboard interaction. Clicks and movements (like in drag and drop) somewhat less easily and similarly.
Thank you for pointing out the ambiguity of the wording. The SC wording has been changed to:

2.1.1 Keyboard: All functionality of the content is operable through a keyboard interface without requiring specific timings for individual keystrokes, except where the underlying function requires input that depends on the path of the user's movement and not just the endpoints. (Level A)

Note: This exception relates to the underlying function, not the input technique. For example, if using handwriting to enter text, the input technique (handwriting) requires path dependent input but the underlying function (text input) does not.

Note: This does not forbid and should not discourage providing mouse input or other input methods in addition to keyboard operation.

In Understanding 2.1.1, we added: The phrase "except where the underlying functionality requires path dependent input" is included to separate those things that cannot reasonably be controlled from a keyboard.

Most actions carried out by a pointing device can also be done from the keyboard (for example, clicking, selecting, moving, sizing). However, there is a small class of input that is done with a pointing device that cannot be done from the keyboard in any known fashion without requiring an inordinate number of keystrokes. Free hand drawing, watercolor painting, and flying a helicopter through an obstacle course are all examples of functions that require path dependent input. Drawing straight lines, regular geometric shapes, re-sizing windows and dragging objects to a location (when the path to that location is not relevant) do not require path dependent input.
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LC-922 Giorgio Brajnik <giorgio@dimi.uniud.it> on behalf of University of Udine, Italy (archived comment)
you say “unless the task requires analog time dep. input�. But the task is defined by the designer and is supported by the GUI. By definition, if the task requires some mouse based input that is analog time dependent, then the page succeeds 211.

Proposed Change:

I think you should focus on the concept of “goal� rather than task. A goal is a desired state of things that a user wants to achieve, and tasks are the observable actions to achieve the goal. Thus you might want to say that the goal should be achievable through 1 or more tasks that do not require analog time dependent gestures. Except when for that goal there is no other way (like piloting a plane!).
We agree with the concept of your comments but chose to address it with different wording as follows.

Changed SC by adding "underlying" to read
2.1.1 Keyboard: All functionality of the content is operable through a keyboard interface without requiring specific timings for individual keystrokes, except where the underlying function requires input that depends on the path of the user's movement and not just the endpoints. (Level A)

Note: This exception relates to the underlying function, not the input technique. For example, if using handwriting to enter text, the input technique (handwriting) requires path dependent input but the underlying function (text input) does not.

Note: This does not forbid and should not discourage providing mouse input or other input methods in addition to keyboard operation.

In Understanding 2.1.1, we added: "The phrase "except where the underlying functionality requires path dependent input" is included to separate those things that cannot reasonably be controlled from a keyboard.

Most actions carried out by a pointing device can also be done from the keyboard (for example, clicking, selecting, moving, sizing). However, there is a small class of input that is done with a pointing device that cannot be done from the keyboard in any known fashion without requiring an inordinate number of keystrokes. Free hand drawing, watercolor painting, and flying a helicopter through an obstacle course are all examples of functions that require path dependent input. Drawing straight lines, regular geometric shapes, re-sizing windows and dragging objects to a location (when the path to that location is not relevant) do not require path dependent input.
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LC-939 Gottfried Zimmermann <gzimmermann@acm.org> on behalf of Invited expert on W3C PF (archived comment)
The note in section "Conformance notes" states conformance for the case of content negotiation. The requirement that only the page returned with no content negotiation needs to comply with WCAG 2.0 is too weak, with regard to content negotiation for alternate language delivery. A page should comply for all of its language versions.

As an example, consider a website where only the English version (default for content negotiation on language) is accessible according to WCAG 2.0. The website could claim conformance although all non-English users would get inaccessible web pages through their user agents.

Proposed Change:

Add to the note: "Exception: This note does not apply for alternative language versions being delivered through content negotiation. A Web unit conforms to WCAG 2.0 only if all its language versions conform."
We have removed the requirement about content negotiation. However, we have added the following to the conformance criterion on alternate versions:

If multiple language versions can be negotiated, then conformant versions are required for each language offered.
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LC-940 Gottfried Zimmermann <gzimmermann@acm.org> on behalf of Invited expert on W3C PF (archived comment)
These success criteria would make a web page with multiple language versions compliant, with only one version being conformant and the others being inaccessible. We need to exempt alternative language versions from this success criterion. This should be mentioned and the definition of "alternate version(s)" should be amended correspondingly.

Essence: An accessible page in Korean is not an equivalent alternative for an inaccessable page in Urdu.

Proposed Change:

Add to 4.2.1 and 4.2.3: "This does not apply to alternate versions serving different languages."

Also, change the definition of "alternate version(s)" to exclude versions serving different languages, e.g.: "version that provides all of the same information and functionality in the same natural language and is as up to date as any non-conformant content".
We have revised the definition of "alternate version" to clarify that the versions must use the same natural language. In reworking the conformance section, we have also added:
If multiple language versions can be negotiated, then conformant versions are required for each language offered."
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LC-531 Greg Gay <g.gay@utoronto.ca> on behalf of ATRC UofT (archived comment)
Item Number: (none selected)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):
There doesn't seem to be a place to comment on the Baseline Document, so I'll post it here:

http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/baseline/

The potential for many baselines is possible, and each baseline will have an overall level of accessibility associated with it. For example, a baseline that includes only HTML 4, is going to be more universally accessible than a baseline that includes HTML 4, Flash, Java, and Javascript. For clients or developers using the latter baseline, we would essentially tell them that if their content made full use of the Flash, Java, and Javascript accessibility features, they can comply at Level 2 (hypothetically speaking). But, for a client who creates the same site that uses the first baseline (HTML 4 only), and has gone to the trouble of creating alternatives for their Flash, Java, and Javascript content, will have created a more accessible site than the site that uses second baseline and does not have any alternative formats. What motivation would there be for the developer of the site using the first baseline, if they can just place all the technologies in the baseline, and forget about creating more accessible alternative content.

Proposed Change:

The solution to this may be associating some base accessibility value with a variety of standard baselines, baselines which remain non-normative, and evolve as technologies evolve.
The conformance section of WCAG2 has been completely rewritten. The term "baseline" has been replaced by "accessibility-supported Web technologies". The issue of what it means to be an accessibility-supported Web technology is addressed in the section " Accessibility Support of Web Technologies", at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#accessibility-support . yes
LC-533 Greg Gay <g.gay@utoronto.ca> on behalf of ATRC UofT (archived comment)
Item Number: Technology assumptions and the
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

There is a relatively easy possibility of Level AAA compliance by virtue of ommision. By default, the vast majority of sites will meet 50% of the level 3 guidelines without trying. The following are arguably not relevant on most Web sites.

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Irrelevant for most sites

1.2.5 (w/ no MM)
1.2.6 (w/ no MM)
1.2.7 (w/ no MM)
1.4.3 (use standard B/W)
1.4.4 (with no audio content)
2.1.2 (with no time dependence)
2.2.4 (no timed events)
2.2.5 (no auto updated content)
2.2.6 (no timeout)
2.3.2 (use no flashing components)
2.4.6 (don\'t use tab to create inconsitent tab ordering
3.1.6 (write in an alphabetic language)
3.2.5 (use no auto redirects)
4.2.4 (use only baseline technologies)

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Potentially 13 L3 met by omission

So without any extra effort, a site without any of the above technologies would meet enough level 3 criteria to comply, even though none of the guidelines are relevant.

Things that could be done relevant to the content of the majority of sites

Relevant to most sites

2.4.5 (use descriptive titles, headings, and labels)
2.4.7 (use breadcrumb links to navigate, and identify location within a hierarchy)
2.4.8 (use meaningfult link text)
2.5.4 (describe expected input for form fields)
3.1.3 (provide a glossary)
3.1.4 (expand all abbreviations)
3.1.5 (Use low level language)

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Potentially 7 L3 relevant to most sites.

Proposed Change:

Perhspa 75% of level 3 items would be more appropriate, or maybe 50%, which includes at least 4 or 5 items (or maybe all) from the second list of more common level 3 items.
We have changed the definition of Level AAA conformance so that all Level AAA Success Criteria that apply to the content types used must be satisfied. yes
LC-534 Greg Gay <g.gay@utoronto.ca> on behalf of ATRC UofT (archived comment)
Item Number: Conformance claims
Part of Item:
Comment Type: GE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

Re: Conformance notes.

http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-WCAG20-20060427/conformance.html#conformance-claims

The Note suggests that the default version of the content displayed (i.e. Web unit that is returned when no negotiation is conducted) is the one that must comply. This would mean that myself for example, as a fully able user with no content negotiation enabled, would be forced to view the most accessible version of a content unit, despite, perhaps, a less accessible, more interactive, "flashy" version being more appropropriate for my needs.

Proposed Change:

I think the second statement (in parentheses) "...one of the negotiated forms must comply" makes more sense as the default here, with perhaps the added note that "...the most accessible version is easily accessed should the primary version not be accessible". A common example is the Flash splash page that includes a link to an accessible HTML version of the same content. In the initial statement it suggested that as a developer I would have to default to the HTML version of the page, with a link to the Flash version instead. Developers and their clients will not agree to this, but they will agree to a link that leads to a more accessible version..
We have removed discussion of content negotiation and moved requirements related to alternate versions to the Conformance section of the Guidelines. The revised conformance criteriaon now reads:


Alternate Versions: If the Web page does not meet all of the success criteria for a specified level, then a mechanism to obtain an alternate version that meets all of the success criteria can be derived from the nonconforming content or its URI, and that mechanism meets all success criteria for the specified level of conformance. The alternate version does not need to be matched page for page with the original (e.g. the alternative to a page may consist of multiple pages). If multiple language versions are available, then conforming versions are required for each language offered.
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LC-544 Greg Gay <g.gay@utoronto.ca> on behalf of ATRC UofT (archived comment)
Item Number: Success Criterion 4.1.1
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

In guideline 4.1.1 does "parsed unambiguosly" mean "well formed" or "valid"? The techniques seem to suggest that markup must be valid, though you would be hard pressed to find invalid code that disrupts any relatively recent screen reader's ability to read a Web unit. It takes severely broken markup to affect accessibility, or specific types of errors (such as broken table structures). While I am all for valid markup, it is *not* a requirement for accessibility in most cases, particularly at level 1. I can see this requirement at level 2 perhaps.

Proposed Change:

What would be appropriate here to have a well formed requirement at level 1, and valid at level 2. And still this really has to do with compatibility with future technologies, rather than affects on accessibility using current technologies.
We have reworded SC 4.1.1 to require that content can be parsed without error.

The working group looked at this topic carefully over an extended period of time and concluded that requiring strict adherence to all aspects of specifications does not necessarily result in an increase in accessibility. For example, it is possible to create invalid pages that present no accessibility barriers. It is also possible in certain situations to enhance accessibility through the use of markup that is not part of the specification.

The working group must work within its charter and only include things that directly affected accessibility. Some aspects of "use technologies according to specification" and validity do relate to accessibility. However, others do not. So requiring validity would take us beyond our charter. We do recommend it though and it is our #1 technique listed for conforming to SC 4.1.1.
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LC-545 Greg Gay <g.gay@utoronto.ca> on behalf of ATRC UofT (archived comment)
Item Number: Success Criterion 4.2.1
Part of Item:
Comment Type: ED
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

Guideline 4.2.1

This guideline does not read like a guideline (same with 4.2.3), is not immediately clear what it means without reviewing the HowTo, and can be interpreted in different ways (i.e. ...may [also] be, or ...may [instead] be...). I interpret it first as meaning I can include a link from the accessible version to the innaccessible version. In fact it should be the opposite that is true (and I'm sure based on the howto that is what was intended), including a link from the innaccessible version to the accessible one.

Proposed Change:

Ideally there should be reciprocol links between the two versions.
We have moved discussion of alternate versions of content to the Conformance section of the Guidelines, and we have clarified by adding the following conformance requirement

Alternate Versions: If the Web page does not meet all of the success criteria for a specified level, then a mechanism to obtain an alternate version that meets all of the success criteria can be derived from the nonconforming content or its URI, and that mechanism meets all success criteria for the specified level of conformance. The alternate version does not need to be matched page for page with the original (e.g. the alternative to a page may consist of multiple pages). If multiple language versions are available, then conforming versions are required for each language offered.

We have also updated the understanding document to clarify situations when different sufficient techniques would apply.
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LC-1148 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
"The Conformance section and SC 4.2 clearly contradict each other. The section on Conformance currently reads ""WCAG 2.0 conformance at level A means that all Level 1 success criteria in the guidelines are met assuming user agent support for only the technologies in the specified baseline."" By contrast, 4.2.1 and 4.2.3 say ""At least one version of the content meets all level N success criteria, but alternative version(s) that do not meet all level N success criteria may be available from the same URI.""

Take for example a URI that has two versions of the same content, one not meeting SC 1.1.1 and the other an accessible alternative that does meet 1.1.1. Can that URI conform at Single-A? Under the current wording of the Conformance section, the answer is clearly NO! That page complies with 4.2.1 (by providing an accessible alternative), but it still fails 1.1.1: the rules stated in the Conformance section provide no exemption from 1.1.1 just because something passes 4.2.1, nor does 1.1.1 itself define any such exemption.

If conforming with 4.2.1 is meant to provide exemptions from most other Level 1 criteria, the document MUST say that in the normative Conformance section or in the description of each success criterion.

You might say that the intent is understood, but the question is, is the intent supported or contradicted by the actual wording of the normative sections of the document?"

Proposed Change:

"Change Conformance to explicitly say that conformance requires that each URI conforms with all SC of the appropriate level OR that an accessible alternative that does so is available from the same URI (with a link to the details of what that means, currently in the Understanding document's discussion of Guideline 4.2).

OR, change the section ""Conformance Levels and the Baseline"" to say that only conformance with criterion 4.2.1 is required to claim Single-A conformance, and leave it to 4.2.1 to require all the rest of the Level 1 criteria."
We have moved the requirements of success criterion 4.2.1 out of the guidelines and into the conformance section, and we have changed the definition of the conformance levels to require that each web page either satisfy all success criteria at that level or satisfy the alternate version requirement. yes
LC-1149 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
This is closely related to the previous comment on Conformance, and a follow-up to existing issue 1590.

I was unable to spot where, in the Conformance section or elsewhere, it is made explicit whether success criteria need to be met all the time, or by default, or only on request. For example, 1.4.1 says ""Text or diagrams, and their backgrounds, have a luminosity contrast ratio of at least 5:1""; is it acceptable if that is a user-selectable option, and if so, does it have to be on by default? The closest I can find to addressing this is Guideline 4.2, ""Ensure that content is accessible or provide an accessible alternative,"" under which SC 4.2.1 (for example) says ""At least one version of the content meets all level 1 success criteria, but alternate version(s) that do not meet all level 1 success criteria may be available from the same URI."" This can be taken as making it clear that all success criteria can be met at the user's request, and do not need to be met in the default configuration. However, it seems strange to have success criteria in one guideline (4.2) effectively define exceptions to every other success criteria in the document, essentially saying ""You know that thing we said you have to do? Well, you don't have to do it under certain circumstances."" As a result, 4.2.x are the only success criteria that are actually required; the rest are all conditionally required, although you won't find this out unless you read 4.2.
We have moved the requirements on alternate versions from guideline 4.2 to the conformance section. The current wording should clarify that inaccessible versions are permitted, but only if they provide an accessible mechanism to reach an accessible version:

Alternate Versions: If the Web page does not meet all of the success criteria for a specified level, then a mechanism to obtain an alternate version that meets all of the success criteria can be derived from the nonconforming content or its URI, and that mechanism meets all success criteria for the specified level of conformance. The alternate version does not need to be matched page for page with the original (e.g. the alternative to a page may consist of multiple pages). If multiple language versions are available, then conforming versions are required for each language offered.
yes
LC-1151 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
The example conformance claims are invalid because they omit the full name and URI of the guidelines, which are required according to the section "Required components of a conformance claim".

Proposed Change:

Replace "W3C's WCAG 2.0" with "Web Content Accessibility Guidelines 2.0 at http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-WCAG20-YYYYMMDD/"
The draft has been revised as proposed. yes
LC-1152 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
One required component of a conformance claim is "Scope of the claim (a URI, list of URI's, or a set of URIs defined by a regular expression)," and the examples each include a single URI. This, the Examples, and the Conformance Notes all fail to clarify whether citing a single URI implies conformance is claimed for that one web page (or equivalent), or all pages referenced by it, or all pages "beneath it" on the server. For example, does claiming conformance for http://telcor.example.com/nav/G7/intro.html mean that conformance is claimed just for that one page, or for all the pages it links to, or all the pages in the /nav/G7/ directory on the server, including or not including subdirectories? I suggest clarifying this and also including an example of a claim for an entire Web site or multi-page portion thereof.
We have completely rewritten the Conformance section. The format of this description is no longer specified. The corresponding required component is now:

4. A description of the URIs that the claim is being made for, including whether subdomains are included in the claim.

We have fixed the existing examples to clarify that the first applies to the entire site and the second applies only to the specific page. We have added examples to illustrate the use of boolean and regular expressions in a conformance statement.
yes
LC-1153 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
The example conformance claims list things like jpeg as 'specifications that this content "relies upon"'. How can jpeg ever be a relied upon specification since the guidelines require Web pages to be usable even when the images are turned off?

Proposed Change:

Remove JPEG from list of "specifications that this content relies upon", or else clarify what is meant by including it.
"Relies upon" means that it is used in this content and must be supported by the user agent in order to claim conformance. If jpeg were used to satisfy SC 3.1.5 by providing an illustration as supplemental content, then jpeg would be relied upon. yes
LC-1155 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
In the phrase "different forms are provided to accommodate multiple disabilities", the word "multiple" could be read as saying these forms should address the needs of an individual with multiple disabilities, which is a nice goal but not the baseline requirement.

Proposed Change:

Change "different forms are provided to accommodate multiple disabilities" to "different forms are provided to accommodate different disabilities".
The bullet has been revised to read:

If the purpose of non-text content is to confirm that content is being accessed by a person rather than a computer, then text alternatives that identify and describe the purpose of the non-text content are provided and alternative forms in different modalities are provided to accommodate different disabilities
yes
LC-1156 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
The order of the two clauses is reversed from all the other success criteria for guideline 1.2.

Proposed Change:

Change
"For prerecorded multimedia, a full multimedia text alternative including any interaction is provided" to read
"A full multimedia text alternative including any interaction is provided for all prerecorded multimedia."
We revised the term to "full text alternative for multimedia including any interaction." The success criterion has been updated to read, "1.2.7 A full text alternative for multimedia including any interaction is provided for all prerecorded multimedia." yes
LC-1157 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
The phrase "visually evident without color" could be misinterpreted as meaning "visually evident, and without color". Suggest rephrasing to be less ambiguous.

Proposed Change:

Change "visually evident without color" to read "visually evident even if any color cannot be perceived".
SC 1.4.1 (formerly 1.3.2) has been revised to read:

Use of Color: Any information that is conveyed by color differences is also visually evident without the color differences.
yes
LC-1158 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
The guideline reads, "Any information that is conveyed by color is also visually evident without color." This wording clearly implies that it is acceptable to convey information by contrast, a technique that is discussed in other criteria but overlooked both here and its Understanding. Is the intent here to make sure information is visually evident without perceiving color and contrast, or to say that conveying information by contrast alone is acceptable? I suspect the former. If the latter, we should provide guidance for 1.3.2 on minimum acceptable contrast between items when color/contrast is used alone to denote differences in type, state, etc., just as we do for differences between foreground and background elsewhere. Even if the former, such guidance on the use of contrast would be valuable as a Level 2 or Level 3 criterion.

Proposed Change:

Change to read "Any information that is conveyed by color or contrast is visually evident even if any color and contrast cannot be perceived.."
We have combined SC 1.3.1 and 1.3.4 into a level A criterion that reads, "1.3.1 Information and relationships conveyed through presentation can be programmatically determined or are available in text, and notification of changes to these is available to user agents, including assistive technologies." We have also revised SC 1.3.2 to read, "1.4.1 Use of Color: Any information that is conveyed by color differences is also visually evident without the color differences."

The working group believes that the revised level A criterion addresses your concerns regarding the use of conveying information via contrast alone.
yes
LC-1159 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
The wording "When the sequence of the content affects its meaning, that sequence can be programmatically determined" is ambiguous as to whether it refers to intended viewing/reading order, keyboard navigation order, presentation order (e.g. navigation links are at the top despite the designer's intention that they not be actually read on every page), and/or declaration order (e.g. content is declared early in the HTML despite being positioned at the bottom of the page using vertical alignment attributes). The Understanding section only addresses conveying intended reading order, but if that is the intention, the wording of the Success Criterion should reflect that. However, other ordering may be important to some types of assistive technology (e.g. keyboard navigation order for use by speech recognition software).
Yes, it is the intent that SC 1.3.2 (formerly 1.3.3) cover only reading order. Keyboard navigation order is covered under SC 2.4.3 (formerly 2.4.6). The other aspects of the comment - presentation order and declaration order are considered to be aspects of or sufficient techniques for the above two issues. To clarify this, SC 1.3.2 was reworded: "When the sequence in which content is presented affects its meaning, a correct reading sequence can be programmatically determined and sequential navigation of interactive components is consistent with that sequence." yes
LC-1160 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
1.3.5 says information required to operate the content should not rely on visual location or orientation of components, but in HTML forms the association between a control (e.g. radio button) and its visual label (e.g. static text nex to it) are only exposed programmatically through the DOM and visually by the spatial relationship between the two objects. The only way to avoid relying on spatial cues is to use assistive technology; is that the intention of this criterion, even though the word "programmatically" does not appear in the wording and the Understanding and Techniques don't explicitly mention steps to assist assistive technology?
The success criterion has been reworded to make it clear that it is about instructions to the user that use spatial referents. Form labels are therefore excluded from the requirements of this SC. yes
LC-1161 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
1.4.1 specifies a minimum luminosity contrast between text or diagrams and their backgrounds. Often diagrams include portions that convey information and other portions that are purely decorative; in such cases, shouldn't this criterion apply only to portions of the text or diagram that are functional or convey information? Large text used as a decorative element behind the text of a Web page is an example of purely decorative text, and in such cases you really need to retain low contrast with the background.

Proposed Change:

Change to read "Portions of text or diagrams that are not purely decorative have a luminosity contrast ratio of at least 5:1 when compared with their backgrounds."
The topic of contrast in diagrams became so complicated and uncertain that diagrams were removed from the provision. It now only applies to text and images of text.

RE: Decorative text, we do not require that decorative text need be high or low contrast. Just that there be sufficient contrast between non-decorative text and what is immediately around it. If the background of non-decorative text contains decorative text the contrast provision would apply. If not, we have no restrictions on it.
yes
LC-1163 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
1.4.4 Note uses the phrase "four times (4x) quieter", but that seem a meaningless term. One can only talk about something being "four times louder" because loudness is measured relative to the absence of audible sound. "Four times quieter" would only make sense if noise A is compared with some other, even louder sound.

Proposed Change:

Change to read "Background sound that meets this requirement will be approximately one quarter as loud as the foreground audio content."
We have updated the note to read, "Background sound that meets this requirement will be approximately one quarter as loud as the foreground speech content." yes
LC-1164 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
2.1.1 requires all functionality of the content to be operable in a non-time-dependent manner through a keyboard interface. However, many Web sessions eventually time out, and there is no practical way to design the server software to avoid this. Even when the Web content complies with criterion 2.2.1 and 2.2.6, which in many cases requires the user have some control over such time-outs, that does not make it comply with 2.1.1.

Proposed Change:

Define "non-time-dependent manner" as "method that does not require user action within any period shorter than ten minutes", or else add a Note to 2.1.1 explaining that server-based session time-outs of at least some minimum duration are not considered part of the content.
Time-outs are covered under another success criterion. This refers to not requiring individual keys to be pressed or released under particular time contraints. To make this clear, we have rewritten the SC to
2.1.1 All functionality of the content is operable through a keyboard interface without requiring specific timings for individual keystrokes, except where the underlying function requires input that depends on the path of the user's movement and not just the endpoints.
yes
LC-1166 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
2.2.1 applies to each time-out "that is a function of the content". Does that include time-outs that are applied by the server software, and of which the Web unit may have no knowledge (e.g. session timing out from inactivity)? Clarification is needed. The Understanding document addresses this but fails to clarify it, but it looks like server-based session time-outs would be non-conforming.

Proposed Change:

"Remove the phrase ""that is a function of the content"".

Add clarification of server-based session time-outs to the Understanding document or the SC itself."
The Success Criterion has been changed to clarify that it was intended that only time limits set by the content are in scope, and additional clarification has been added to the How to Meet document. yes
LC-1168 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
2.2.2 requires content to not blink for more than three seconds or a method be available to stop all blinking in the Web unit or authored component. Many Web sites display GIF images that are provided by a third-party (e.g. advertisements, or user-contributed photos); are such sites required to ensure that none of those are animated GIFs, in case some blink? Is it sufficient for the authors to define a baseline that includes user agents that allow the user to stop blinking on the current Web unit (e.g. pressing ESC)?
You ask two questions:
1)Yes, aggregators are responsible for the content they aggregate. If the aggregator wants to claim conformance at level AA, there must be no third party images integrated into the content which violate this success criterion.
2)It would be sufficient to use a technology for which user agents are available which allow the user to freeze the technology (as is the case of GIFs). This is the 2nd sufficient technique under SC 2.2.2.
yes
LC-1170 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
2.5.3 option 3 is that the user is able to review and confirm or correct information before submitting it. However, in almost all cases the user can pause after entering data, and review it before pressing ENTER or clicking SUBMIT, etc. I believe the intent of this option is that pressing ENTER or clicking SUBMIT should bring up a new Web unit that displays how the system interpreted what the user wrote (as opposed to what they thought they were writing). If so, shouldn't the wording make this clearer?

Proposed Change:

Change to read "The user is able to have the information they entered re-presented to them so they may review and confirm or correct it before final submission."
The third bullet has been rewritten to make it clear that the user has the opportunity to review the results being submitted before confirming the transaction.

The item now reads, "A mechanism is available for reviewing, confirming, and correcting information before finalizing the transaction."
yes
LC-1171 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
2.5 3 requires, for Double-A, that methods are provided to help avoid or undo errors, but only for a certain narrowly-defined set of interactions. I would recommend that these steps, or at least UNDO, be repeated as a level 3 success criterion, but applying to all interactions rather that just those listed in 2.5.3.

Proposed Change:

Add a new Level 3 success criteria:
2.5.5 For all user actions, at least one of the following is true:
1. Actions are reversible.
2. Actions are checked for input errors before going on to the next step in the process.
3. The user is able to have the information they entered re-presented to them so they may review and confirm or correct it before final submission.
Thank you for your suggestion. The working group has determined that "all" user actions is too broad. For example, these techniques would not be appropriate for the action of logging out of a secure banking site or selecting a link that closes a window.

However we've adopted it to a narrower focus of forms at Level AAA. Here is the language:

3.3.6: For forms that require the user to submit information, at least one of the following is true:
1. Reversible: Transactions are reversible.
2. Checked: Submitted data is checked for input errors before going on to the next step in the process.
3. Confirmed: A mechanism is available for reviewing, confirming, and correcting information before finalizing the transaction.
yes
LC-1174 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
4.2.2. says that if the user can enter content using the keyboard they must also be able to exit it using the keyboard, even if the content uses a non-baseline technology. This helps, but is not a complete solution, because it does not require that the keyboard method be discoverable by the user, especially if the user has a disability (e.g. a screen that cannot be read by a screen reader displays "text" telling the user they can exit by pressing F10, but the user who relies on the screen reader has know way of figuring that out). This is addressed in Techniques, but I fear that is inadequate because such documentation is so critical.

Proposed Change:

Change "If content can be entered using the keyboard, then the content can be exited using the keyboard." to read: "If content can be entered using the keyboard, then the content can be exited using the keyboard, and the method for doing so is described using technology in the baseline."
Thank you for the suggestion. We have modified the success criterion to address the issue that you raised: If focus can be moved to technologies that are not accessibility supported using a keyboard interface, then focus can be moved away from that content using only a keyboard interface, and the method for doing so is described before the content is encountered and in a way that meets all Level A success criteria." yes
LC-1188 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
Definitions of GENEAL FLASH THRESHOLD and RED FLASH THRESHOLD, it might be worth noting, will eventually need to be revised when OLED technology allows for increasing use of very large, animated displays. Picture one big OLED display replacing the sign board in the lobby of a major office building, listing all the businesses and their locations; in this case the user will be focusing their attention on one small area of the large sign, but close enough to read the text easily. In that case, the entire area the user is looking at might be flashing, but it still would not be 1/3 of the screen high and 1/3 of the screen wide.)

Proposed Change:

In both GENERAL FLASH THRESHOLD and RED FLASH THRESHOLD, append to list item 1, "or designed to occupy a region larger than 6" by 6" on the intended physical display".
Screen size is not what determines the size of the analysis window. It is angle of view area. So, we have changed the provision to state this and provided the information on what is a good estimate for general web content as a note.

If the author KNOWS that a larger screen or viewing distance will be used (for example a very large display in a lobby) then they can calculate the size of the area in pixels that they should analyze.
yes
LC-1241 Henny Swan <henny.swan@rnib.org.uk> on behalf of Royal National Institute of the Blind (archived comment)
Comment: Where it states "The broader term was chosen because it covers Web applications and other types of content to which the word "page" may not apply" it gives no example of a "web unit" that is not a "web page".

Proposed Change:

Provide an example of a "web unit" that is not a web page.
We have replaced the term "Web unit" with "Web page" and have modified this section to describe our use of the term in greater detail. We have also added an example of content that may not immediately be recognized as a "Web page."

The definition, found at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#webpagedef , now reads:

Web page

a resource that is referenced by a URI and is not embedded in another resource, plus any other resources that are used in the rendering or intended to be rendered together with it

Note: Although any "other resources" would be rendered together with the primary resource, they would not necessarily be rendered simultaneously with each other.

Example 1: When you enter http://shopping.example.com/ in your browser you enter a movie-like interactive shopping environment where you visually move about a store dragging products off of the shelves around you into a visual shopping cart in front of you. Clicking on a product causes it to be demonstrated with a specification sheet floating alongside.

Example 2: A Web resource including all embedded images and media.

Example 3: A Web mail program built using Asynchronous JavaScript and XML (AJAX). The program lives entirely at http://mail.example.com, but includes an inbox, a contacts area and a calendar. Links or buttons are provided that cause the the inbox, contacts, or calendar to display, but do not change the URL of the page as a whole.

Example 4: A customizable portal site, where users can choose content to display from a set of different content modules.
yes
LC-1242 Henny Swan <henny.swan@rnib.org.uk> on behalf of Royal National Institute of the Blind (archived comment)
Comment: The text "The WCAG Working Group believes that all success criteria of WCAG 2.0 are essential for some people. Thus, the system of checkpoints and priorities used in WCAG 1.0 has been replaced by success criteria under Levels 1, 2, and 3 as described above" is not very clear, it is still difficult to understand the rationale behind the move from WCAG 1 and Priorities to WCAG 2 and "Levels".

Proposed Change:

Expand and explain the rationale
The description of conformance levels in WCAG 2, at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#overview-levels , has been rewritten to clarify the differences:

The word "levels" does not mean that some success criteria are more important than others. Each success criterion in WCAG 2.0 is essential to some users, and the levels build upon each other. However, even content that conforms at AAA (triple-A) may not be fully accessible to every person with a disability.

*In general, Level A success criteria achieve accessibility by supporting assistive technology while putting the fewest possible limits on presentation. Thus people with a wide range of disabilities using a wide range of assistive technologies, from voice input and eye-tracking devices to screen readers and screen magnifiers, are able to access content in different ways. In other words, Level A success criteria support the ability of both mainstream and specialized user agents to adapt content to formats that meet their users' needs.

*The success criteria in Level AA provide additional support for assistive technology. At the same time, they also support direct access to content by the many people who use conventional user agents without assistive technology. In general, Level AA success criteria place more limits on visual presentation and other aspects of content than the success criteria in Level A.

*Level AAA success criteria increase both direct access and access through assistive technology. They place tighter limits on both presentation and content.
yes
LC-1243 Henny Swan <henny.swan@rnib.org.uk> on behalf of Royal National Institute of the Blind (archived comment)
Comment: The text "Note that even conformance to all three levels will not make Web content accessible to all people." is a bit misleading as people may think "why bother".

Proposed Change:

Provide explanation.
The statements you refer to are meant to reflect the reality that not all Web content can be made accessible to all people. One of the lessons learned with WCAG 1.0 was that, for some individuals, even content that meets WCAG 1.0 AAA did not overcome the accessibility barriers faced by those with certain combinations of disabilities or with certain types of severe disabilities.

We have revised this sentence to read, "However, even content that conforms at AAA (triple-A) may not be fully accessible to every person with a disability or combination of disabilities especially certain types of severe disabilities."
yes
LC-1244 Henny Swan <henny.swan@rnib.org.uk> on behalf of Royal National Institute of the Blind (archived comment)
Comment: The description of the differences between levels and priorities, WCAG 1 and 2 could be confusing for a reader who has not read WCAG 1 or is new to WCAG. It has the potential to confuse and hinder understanding as two concepts/rationale are being introduced simultaneously.

Proposed Change:

One way around this may be to write the document (including all supporting informative documents) with no reference to WCAG 1 then have a separate document that explains ALL differences between WCAG 1 and 2. This could be an appendix and referenced at the start of the WCAG 2.0 normative document. Alternatively an explanation can be given and then in a separate paragraph or Note an explanation between the differences of WCAG 1 and 2 given.
The introduction and conformance sections of WCAG 2 have been completely rewritten. The only reference to WCAG 1.0 now reads:

Other documents under development include:

* Transitioning from WCAG 1.0 to 2.0 - Information to facilitate transitioning from use of WCAG 1.0 to WCAG 2.0.
yes
LC-1245 Henny Swan <henny.swan@rnib.org.uk> on behalf of Royal National Institute of the Blind (archived comment)
Comment: The ext is verbose and confusing: "...If the test(s) for a "sufficient" technique or combination of techniques is passed, then the Working Group would consider that success criterion met. However, passing all tests for all techniques is not necessary. Nor is it necessary to meet a success criterion using one of the sufficient techniques. There may be other techniques which are not documented by the working group that would also meet the success criterion."

I had to re-read this a few times to understand it. In addition to this the reference to "the Working Group consider" also makes the explanation a bit more wordy.

Proposed Change:

It may read better if cut down and simplified to: "If the test(s) for a "sufficient" technique or combination of techniques is passed, then that success criterion has been met. Passing all tests for all techniques is not necessary. Alternatively a success criterion could be met using a technique that is not referenced in this document."
We want to keep the emphasis on the last idea though so we have adapted your wording in the discussion of success criteria at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#overview-sc as follows:

For each success criterion, there is a list of techniques deemed by the Working Group to be sufficient to meet the requirement. For each sufficient technique, there is a test to determine whether the technique has been successfully implemented. If the test(s) for a "sufficient" technique (or combination of techniques) are passed, then that success criterion has been satisfied.

Passing all tests for all sufficient techniques is not necessary. Most success criteria have multiple "sufficient techniques" listed. Any of the listed "sufficient techniques" can be used to meet the success criterion.

Note that it is not necessary to meet a success criterion using one of the sufficient techniques that have been documented by the WCAG working group. There may be other techniques which are not documented by the working group that would also meet the success criterion. The working group went through the effort to document these "sufficient techniques" in order to make it easy for authors to identify techniques that meet each success criterion and to have confidence (and evidence) that the techniques meet the success criterion. When using other externally-provided techniques to meet WCAG 2.0 requirements, it is important that they be created by individuals or organizations who are knowledgeable about the requirements of WCAG 2.0 and the needs of people with disabilities. The working group will continue to add new "sufficient techniques" as they are identified, developed, or made effective by advances in user agents including assistive technologies.
yes
LC-1246 Henny Swan <henny.swan@rnib.org.uk> on behalf of Royal National Institute of the Blind (archived comment)
Comment: "In choosing Web technologies (HTML, scripting, etc.) that will be used when building content, authors need to know what technologies they can assume will be supported by, and active in, the user agents (including assistive technologies) that people with disabilities will be using. If authors rely on technologies that are not supported, then their content may not be accessible."

- "assume" seems like a weak word and one that could provide a loophole, get out clause excuse for not making certain technologies accessible. For example a developer could "assume" that all their users have the latest Flash plug-in, screen reader version etc which may support certain technologies better than earlier versions. While I can understand what the concept of baseline is trying to do - give flexibility where it makes sense - it leaves a back door open. Would it not be an idea for WCAG 2 to recommend a minimum baseline (as the Mobile Web Initiative does in their Best Practises document). This can then be updated by WCAG as and when technologies move on. Alternatively some more substantial advice or guidance should be given to help people set sensible baselines and prevent people abusing the baseline.

- the baseline section explains what it is (although in a slightly difficult to read way) but it gives very scant guidance on setting a baseline. This needs to be substantially developed.

- The text "authors need to know what technologies they can assume will be supported by, and active in, the user agents" infers that this information is available from the software vendor where in reality it is not readily available. How then is a developer best able to "assume" a baseline without thoroughly investigating all access technologies and their ability to support CSS, HTML, Flash, JavaScript et al. Who is responsible for providing this support? Software developers, Government, advocacy groups?
The conformance section of WCAG2 has been completely rewritten. The term "baseline" has been replaced by "accessibility-supported Web technologies". The issue of what it means to be an accessibility-supported Web technology is addressed in the section "Accessibility Support of Web Technologies" at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#accessibility-support .

If individual author must evaluate whether technologies are accessibility supported, this will be a tremendous burden on them. Knowledgeable organizations are encouraged to become centers of expertise on these topics, and to publicize the state of user agent and assistive technology support for different technologies, so that authors can make well-informed choices.
yes
LC-1248 Henny Swan <henny.swan@rnib.org.uk> on behalf of Royal National Institute of the Blind (archived comment)
Comment: In reference to the number of baselines given there needs to be more of a focus on non-government/intranet example baselines. Government and Intranet baselines are the less contentious ones to set (at RNIB we have always done this for Intranets for example making adherence to JS less of a priority dependant on the user agents etc used in the organisations). Business websites, corporates, SME's etc are the ones who are going to need more of a steer as they have business needs that may overshadow fair baselines.

Proposed Change:

Perhaps another 2 examples of potential baselines for business could be given along with rationale.
The concept of baselines has been completely re-written. WCAG now discusses accessibility-supported Web technologies (i.e. technologies that are used to create content that work with users' assistive technologies and access features in browsers):
"In choosing Web technologies (HTML, scripting, etc.) that will be used when creating content that will meet the WCAG 2.0 success criteria, authors must use technologies that are supported by users' assistive technologies as well as the accessibility features in browsers and other user agents. Such technologies are referred to as "accessibility supported.""

So the question becomes "What technologies are considered accessibility supported for public web pages?", that is, web pages for which the author has no special knowledge about what user agents and assistive technologies are available to users.

To answer this, one would need need:
1. Accessibility support analyses for candidate technologies, documenting the user agent (browser and assistive technology) support for that technology.
2. Analysis of browser and assistive technology available to users.

Ideally, this information would be gathered in a publicly available location that could be consulted by anyone creating a public website. Until such a database is available, it may be necessary for authors to consult with knowledgeable sources for advice.
yes
LC-1249 Henny Swan <henny.swan@rnib.org.uk> on behalf of Royal National Institute of the Blind (archived comment)
Comment: The sentence "While scoping can include and exclude parts of a site, processes (such as shopping) and authored units must be considered in their entirety." is a bit confusing. Isn't shopping considered to be "part" of a site as well as a "process"?

Proposed Change:

Provide some explanation.
The "Scope out" language has now been removed from the Conformance section. Conformance is based on Web page(s): that is a primary resource referenced by a URI and any other resources that are rendered simultaneously with it with the understanding that different sub elements or resources may be rendered simultaneously with the primary resource at different points in time. The conformance claim process requires the claimant to state which URIs the claim applies to.

We have also added a conformance requirement regarding pages that are part of a process (see http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#cc9 ):

Complete processes: If a Web page that is part of a process does not conform at some level, then no conformance claim is made at that level for any Web pages in that process.
yes
LC-1251 Henny Swan <henny.swan@rnib.org.uk> on behalf of Royal National Institute of the Blind (archived comment)
Comment: "For framesets, noframes is no longer required", unsure why this is no longer present.

Proposed Change:

Explanation needed as to why it is not included.
If "frames" is an accessibility-supported feature of the technology for the users of your page then you can use frames and noframes is not required. If 'frames' is not accessibility supported, then you can still use them but in this case, you would have to use noframes. Even if 'frames' is not accessibility supported, it is good to include NOFRAMES. We have an advisory technique (to be drafted) that recommends its use.

Note: We're no longer considering frames as non-text content and assistive technology support for frames has improved considerably.
yes
LC-1252 Henny Swan <henny.swan@rnib.org.uk> on behalf of Royal National Institute of the Blind (archived comment)
Comment: Success criteria don't mention having instructions in a page to help users interact (for example fill in forms). Also makes no mention of placement of help text (for example at the top of forms rather than at the foot after the submit button. Unsure if SC 2.5.4 covers this.

Proposed Change:

Add the above in as Success Criteria or clarify the are part of 2.5.4 in the techniques.
Thank you for your suggestion. We have added a sufficient technique to How To Meet 3.3.5 (formerly 2.5.4) about providing instructions at the top of a form. yes
LC-1253 Henny Swan <henny.swan@rnib.org.uk> on behalf of Royal National Institute of the Blind (archived comment)
Comment: No mention is made of presentation of text i.e. left aligned vs. justified/right aligned text, long lines, multiple columns, overuse of different styles etc.

Proposed Change:

Add in.
Since these are all design decisions related to visual presentation, the working group believes that this issue is covered under "Principle 1: Content must be perceivable: Guideline 1.3 Create content that can be presented in different ways (for example spoken aloud, simpler layout, etc.) without losing information or structure." Satisfying these success criteria should let the user control the style of presentation of text, possibly via assistive technology.

We have added the following advisory techniques to Guideline 3.1:
- Avoiding centrally aligned text
- Avoiding text that is fully justified (to both left and right margins) in a way that causes poor spacing between words or characters
- Avoiding chunks of italic text
- Avoiding overuse of different styles on individual pages and in sites
yes
LC-1254 Henny Swan <henny.swan@rnib.org.uk> on behalf of Royal National Institute of the Blind (archived comment)
Comment: Moving focus automatically in form fields can cause problems for screen reader and screen magnification users.

Proposed Change:

Remove or add in a clause that says that the fact focus moves on is flagged in the instructions for the form.
We have updated the wording of 3.2.2. It now reads, "Changing the setting of any user interface component does not automatically cause a change of context unless the user has been advised of the behavior before using the component." yes
LC-1255 Henny Swan <henny.swan@rnib.org.uk> on behalf of Royal National Institute of the Blind (archived comment)
Comment: WCAG1 14.1 is not represented in this guideline or any other. This is quite a major omission and one that is important for not only users with cognitive and reading problems but also browsing in a second language; a strange omission given W3C's Internationalisation WG.

Proposed Change:

Add in
The working group was unable to come up with a testable equivalent of WCAG1 14.1. However, we have added an advisory technique to guideline 3.1 and SC 3.1.5 that reads, "Using the clearest and simplest language appropriate for the content."

We have added language to the Introduction to highlight the fact that WCAG 2 only addresses some of the needs of people with cognitive, learning, and language disabilities, and calls out the need for more research in this area. WAI is exploring ways in which to support and encourage work in this important area.
yes
LC-482 Jason White <jasonw@ariel.its.unimelb.edu.au> (archived comment)
Item Number: Conformance claims
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

The main principle which distinguished level 1 from level 2 success criteria in the November 2005 working draft, namely that level 1 criteria may not, whereas level 2 criteria may impose constraints on expression and presentation of material, has been abandoned in the Last Call draft. No substitute principle has taken its place. All that the conformance section now states is that level 1 criteria constitute the minimum, and level 2 requirements offer an enhanced level of accessibility. Level 3 is distinguished in so far as these criteria may not be applicable to all Web content.

The lack of a principled distinction between level 1 and level 2 is a significant weakness of the guidelines as currently drafted, for several reasons. First, it invites fragmentation of the standard by failing to offer any defensible ground for the allocation of success criteria to conformance levels. In contrast, confidence in the integrity of the WCAG 1.0 conformance scheme, in so far as it worked, is bulstered by the fact that there was a coherent underlying rationale determining the assignment of priorities to checkpoints; one was not asked simply to trust the judgment of the working group in this respect.

Secondly, the WCAG 2.0 levels impose de facto priorities upon success criteria. The difference between WCAG 1.0 "priorities" and WCAG 2.0 "levels" is in name only. Level A conformance, as in WCAG 1.0, still requires satisfaction of all level 1 items, and correspondingly at level 2 and even at level 3, where a 50% minimum is arbitrarily imposed. Developers must, therefore, despite statements in the guidelines to the contrary, treat level 1 items as more important than level 2 items, and level 2 items as more important than those at level 3. Yet, unlike WCAG 1.0, there is no rationale, based on impact or any other concept, that determines and justifies these distinctions among priorities (now called "levels"). Implementors, policy makers and other audiences have no reason to believe that the allocation of levels to success criteria is anything better than the outcome of compromise.

This shortcoming of the guidelines needs to be remedied in two steps. First, the working group should agree upon one or more clear, pertinent and applicable criteria to distinguish level 1 from level 2 items. Secondly, the whole document should be reviewed in light of these criteria, re-allocating success criteria to levels as needed to bring the guidelines into accord with the chosen principles.

Alternative proposals are provided below. These are not intended to be
exhaustive of the possibilities; other solutions may, and should, also be considered.

Proposed Change:

Option 1. Reinstate the principle that level 1 success criteria enable user agents and other tools to adapt the content to meet a wide range of access requirements, without imposing constraints on the expression or presentation of the content. Level 2 criteria make the content directly accessible by regulating expression and presentation as needed to achieve a high degree of accessibility.

Option 2: Establish "impact", as in WCAG 1.0, as the main distinction between level 1 and level 2 criteria, while acknowledging that this does not apply to requirements primarily aimed at aiding cognition. For success criteria primarily related to cognitive disabilities, establish a requirement that level 1 criteria do not impose constraints on the expression, whether linguistically, graphically, auditorily etc., of the content. This leads to the following:

a. At level 1, success criteria eliminate barriers that would otherwise make it impossible, due to a sensory or physical disability, to access the content. At level 2, success criteria overcome barriers that would otherwise make it very difficult, due to a sensory or physical disability, to access the content. Level 3 criteria further facilitate access (as in WCAG 1.0 priority 3).

b. Level 1 criteria substantially enhance the effectiveness with which people with cognitive disabilities can access the content, without imposing constraints on the expression, whether in language, sound or images, of the information and functionality provided by the content. Level 2 criteria further facilitate cognition by requiring content to be expressed in ways that improve its accessibility to people with a variety of cognitive disabilities. Level 3 criteria are the same as level 2, but place requirements on expression that cannot be applied to all types of content.

Option 3: Establish a metric of implementation difficulty that is applicable across technologies and will remain stable over time. This would roughly correspond to the amount of effort required of an author to implement the success criteria. Level 1 criteria would demand minimal effort while substantially overcoming barriers to access, level 2 more effort, and level 3 still further. The measure of "difficulty", "effort" or whatever, would provide the basis for making this distinction more precise. I doubt whether such an idea can be worked out in practice, and I along with other proponents of enhanced accessibility would object to its introduction into the guidelines

- benefit to people with disabilities, rather than impact on authors, should be the primary means of distinguishing among conformance levels. Also, such an approach would promote the idea that accessibility is a burden rather than an opportunity, clearly an undesirable result.

Option 4: Divide the success criteria in WCAG 2.0 into two categories: (a) "general": criteria applicable to all types of Web content; and (b) "special": criteria only applicable to some types of Web content. This distinction is already used, albeit roughly, to separate out certain of the criteria currently classified as at level 3. Under this proposal, define the three conformance levels as follows:

Level A conformance means that half (50%) of the general success criteria are satisfied.

Level AA conformance means that all of the general success criteria are satisfied.

Level AAA conformance means that all of the general success criteria, and all of the special success criteria applicable to the type of content involved, are satisfied.

The "special" success criteria would have to be defined and grouped into categories to make clear which should be applied to which kinds of content, and how the different types of content could be distinguished. Note also that additional aids to cognition - controlled vocabularies, symbol systems, etc., could be itnroduced as "special" criteria in the sense indicated in this proposal. They could also be introduced at level 3 under other proposals outlined above.

Variations on the above proposals can of course easily be created.

Whatever proposal is chosen, whether one of the above or not, the success criteria must all be reviewed and, as necessary, reclassified in accordance with it.
The description of conformance levels in WCAG 2 has been rewritten to clarify these issues:

The word "levels" does not mean that some success criteria are more important than others. Each success criterion in WCAG 2.0 is essential to some users, and the levels build upon each other. However, even content that conforms at AAA (triple-A) may not be fully accessible to every person with a disability.

*In general, Level A success criteria achieve accessibility by supporting assistive technology while putting the fewest possible limits on presentation. Thus people with a wide range of disabilities using a wide range of assistive technologies, from voice input and eye-tracking devices to screen readers and screen magnifiers, are able to access content in different ways. In other words, Level A success criteria support the ability of both mainstream and specialized user agents to adapt content to formats that meet their users' needs.

*The success criteria in Level AA provide additional support for assistive technology. At the same time, they also support direct access to content by the many people who use conventional user agents without assistive technology. In general, Level AA success criteria place more limits on visual presentation and other aspects of content than the success criteria in Level A.

*Level AAA success criteria increase both direct access and access through assistive technology. They place tighter limits on both presentation and content.
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LC-464 Jason White <jasonw@ariel.its.unimelb.edu.au> (archived comment)
Item Number: Related Documents
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

Conformance: Aggregated Content.

If content contains authored units that do not themselves carry any conformance claims, and those authored units are modified or substituted as a result of an aggregation process, then the conformance status of those authored units is unknown at any point in time unless individual assessments are carried out. Such assessments may be impractical, for example on sites that collect comments from the public, maintain e-mail archives, etc.

As the guidelines are currently drafted, the conformance of any Web unit containing such authored units depends in turn on the conformance of those authored units, which may vary over time. In order to avoid making false conformance claims, the operator of such a Web site would, presumably, have to exclude such Web units from the scope of any conformance claim, in accordance with the scoping provisions of the conformance section. I think this consequence needs to be clarified and stated explicitly.

Alternatively, the scoping provisions could be modified to allow individual authored units to be excluded from the ambit of a claim, but in that case it is by no means clear how the "authored units" could be precisely identified and specified in the claim.

Proposed Change:

Clarify that if it is unknown whether an authored unit participating in aggregation conforms to WCAG 2.0, or which level of conformance is achieved, then it is likewise unknown what, if any, level of conformance is attained by Web units in which it appears. Implementors should be advised to exclude Web units containing such "unknown" authored units from the scope of any conformance claim in accordance with the "scoping" provisions of the conformance section of WCAG 2.0.

Note that by controlling what may appear in authored units participating in the aggregation process, through technical or other means, it may be possible to ensure that a given level of conformance is always satisfied. Under these circumstances (where the conformance of resulting Web units is guaranteed), conformance claims with respect to such aggregated content may reliably be made.
We have made conformance claims less regulatory and more descriptive, that is, a conformance claim describes what is conformant to the guidelines. We think it is more appropriate for policy makers to determine appropriate exceptions.

We have provided a way to make a statement about parts of a page that do conform if the whole page doesn't.

We have clarified the situation by removing all exceptions and adding the following at the end of the conformance section:

Note: If pages can not conform (for example, conformance test pages or example pages) they would not be included in the conformance claim.

Statement of partial conformance

Sometimes, Web pages are created that will later have additional content added to them. For example, an email program, a blog, or an article that allows users to add comments to the bottom. Another example would be a company or individual who compiles a page from multiple sources. Sometimes, the content from the other sources is automatically inserted into the page over time.

In both of these cases, it is not possible to know at the time of original posting what the content of the pages will be. Two options are available:

1. A conformance claim is made based on best knowledge. If a page of this type is monitored and kept conformant (non-conforming content is immediately removed or made conforming) then a conformance claim can be made since, except for error periods, the page is conformant. No conformance claim should be made if it is not possible to monitor or correct non-conforming content.
2. A "statement of partial conformance" is made. A statement that the page does not conform, but could conform if certain parts were removed can be made. The form of that statement would be, "This page would conform to WCAG 2.0 at level X if the following parts from uncontrolled sources were removed."
1. This "statement of partial conformance" cannot be used for content that is under the author's control.
2. The "following parts" of the page that would need to be removed would be described in terms that users can understand. (e.g. they can't be described as "all parts that we do not have control of" unless they are clearly marked as such.)
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LC-483 Jason White <jasonw@ariel.its.unimelb.edu.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

The conformance section is not sufficiently precise in stating what must be included in a baseline. Specifically, a baseline must specify a list of technologies, including minimum versions, where applicable, thereof, that are required to be supported in order for the content to be rendered to, and operated by, the user.

Proposed Change:

In the "required components of a conformance claim" section, explain clearly that, where applicable (i.e., where there exist multiple versions of a technology), the minimum version required to be supported and enabled in user agents must be stated as part of the baseline. More explicitly, the baseline must name each technology together with the minimum required version, where applicable.
The following sentence was added to the end of the section titled "Rules for Supported Technologies":

"When citing technologies as supported, the version(s) must be specified."
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LC-488 Jason White <jasonw@ariel.its.unimelb.edu.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: ED
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

Sc 1.3.1 refers to "information and relationships", whereas guideline 1.3 is expressed in terms of "information and structure". If there is supposed to be a subtle difference between these terms, it needs to be defined and explained. Otherwise, the same wording should be used in both the guideline and the success criterion. I don't think there is, or ought to be, any difference in meaning.

Proposed Change:

Change sc 1.3.1 to read "information and structure".
Guideline 1.3 has been reworded to avoid this confusion. The new wording is "Create content that can be presented in different ways (for example spoken aloud, simpler layout, etc.) without losing information or structure." tocheck
LC-490 Jason White <jasonw@ariel.its.unimelb.edu.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

The expression "conveyed through presentation" is not defined, and therefore open to divergent interpretations. If, for example, an implementor decided that "presentation" could be construed as meaning "auditory presentation provided by a speech-enabled user agent", and it turned out that very few aspects of the structure of the content were conveyed in an auditory presentation, then it could be concluded, contrary to the purpose of the guidelines, that almost none of the structure need be programmatically determinable. I can think of two alternative ways in which the concept of "conveyed through presentation" could be more precisely defined.

1. Any aspect of the information or structure that is evident from the presentation of the content, in any modality, must be able to be programmatically determined.

2. Any aspect of the information or structure for which the author provides presentational hints to the user agent, must be able to be programmatically determined. Presentational hints may include style parameters, visual formatting (layout, font changes, etc.), audio formatting (parameters to control a speech synthesizer) and other aspects of the content designed to influence its presentation in one or more sensory modalities. I think the second proposal is the more practicable solution as it doesn't leave authors wondering what might be apparent in a presentational context with which they are unfamiliar, that needs to be made programmatically determinable.

Proposed Change:

Rewrite the success criterion, add a note to it, or rewrite the definition of "presentation" to clarify the requirement in accordance with the problem raised and the solutions suggested above, or indeed any other solution that addresses the lack of clarity in the current text.
We have updated the definition of "presentation" to "rendering of the content in a form to be perceived by users." We have also added a definition for "relationships." tocheck
LC-496 Jason White <jasonw@ariel.its.unimelb.edu.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

Are there "processes" which are not "tasks" for purposes of this criterion? I can't think of anything that would qualify. If I perform an interaction in a user interface, surely I am performing, or undertaking, a task and the result of my doing so will be the result of the task performed. If this is right, then make the change proposed below.

Proposed Change:

Change "process or task" to "task" or "task performed by the user".
We agree that WCAG should be consistent in our use of terms. However, we think that "process" is more appropriate than "task" in this case. tocheck
LC-503 Jason White <jasonw@ariel.its.unimelb.edu.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

This criterion is unnecessarily and arbitrarily restricted to form controls and fields (of forms). This restriction is undesirable.

Proposed Change:

Rewrite the sc in terms of user interface components rather than forms and fields. For example, it could be expressed in terms of changing or setting the state of a user interface component, where state would be defined to include any kind of value that the component can accept as input. Of course, there are other, simpler ways of generalizing this to user interface components.
We agree, and have updated the wording of SC 3.2.2 (formerly 3.2.3). It now reads, "Changing the setting of any user interface component does not automatically cause a change of context unless the user has been advised of the behavior before using the component. " tocheck
LC-514 Jason White <jasonw@ariel.its.unimelb.edu.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

This criterion refers to the possibility of other versions of the content being available from the same URI. However, if the content consists of multiple Web units, there is no single URI from which the content as a whole is available, since each Web unit included in the content (i.e., within the scope of conformance) has its own URI.

Proposed Change:

Change "the content" to "each Web unit in the content", since the requirement applies at the level of the individual Web unit rather than to the content as a single entity. Equivalent language may be employed to achieve this; the above is just a suggestion.
We have moved discussion of alternate versions of content to the Conformance section of the Guidelines, and we have clarified by adding a note that addresses your concern. The revised conformance criterion reads:

"Alternate Versions: If a Web page within the scope of a claim does not meet all of the required WCAG 2.0 success criteria at the level claimed, then a mechanism to obtain an alternate version that meets the success criteria can be derived from the nonconforming content or its URI, and that mechanism meets all success criteria at the level claimed.
Note: The alternate version does not need to be matched page for page with the original (e.g. the alternative to a page may consist of multiple pages)."
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LC-515 Jason White <jasonw@ariel.its.unimelb.edu.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

See my comment on sc 4.2.1, which applies here too.

Proposed Change:
We have moved discussion of alternate versions of content to the Conformance section of the Guidelines, and we have clarified by adding a note that addresses your concern. The revised conformance criterion reads:

"Alternate Versions: If a Web page within the scope of a claim does not meet all of the required WCAG 2.0 success criteria at the level claimed, then a mechanism to obtain an alternate version that meets the success criteria can be derived from the nonconforming content or its URI, and that mechanism meets all success criteria at the level claimed.
Note: The alternate version does not need to be matched page for page with the original (e.g. the alternative to a page may consist of multiple pages)."
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LC-583 Jason White <jasonw@ariel.its.unimelb.edu.au> on behalf of none (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

If it is sufficient that the change in presentation of text can be
programmatically determined, then most changes in presentation (other,
perhaps, than in bitmapped images) will meet this criterion. The user agent,
after all, requires this information in order to render the change.

However, programmatic determination of the change in presentation is not
sufficient to meet the requirements of user agents and assistive technologies
providing presentations in other modalities (or in the same modality with
different stylistic requirements according to the needs of the user with a
disability). How is the user agent supposed to map the change in presentation
to a corresponding change, whether in text or in presentation, in its
generated rendering, if the purpose or meaning of the variation in
presentation cannot be programmatically determined? In the worst case, it
could simply \"announce\" the change, e.g., \"voice pitch flat\" or \"font size
14pt\" and leave the user to try to work out the significance, if any, of this;
but a better solution is to use the capabilities of the technology to convey
the meaning or significance of the change, while also allowing \"merely
decorative\" changes having no meaningful purpose to be ignored.

This shortcoming of the current criterion is addressed in the proposal below.

Proposed Change:

\"The meaning or purpose of the change in presentation of text can be
programmatically determined\". Alternatively, just \"purpose\" could be used in
place of \"meaning or purpose\" in the above. Alternatively, keep this criterion
as is and add a more stringent requirement at level 2 or level 3.
SC 1.3.1 and 1.3.4 have been combined to read "Information and relationships conveyed through presentation can be programmatically determined or are available in text, and notification of changes to these is available to user agents, including assistive technologies." This wording ensures that it is the meaning conveyed by the presentation that must be programmatically determined, and allows the author to indicate the meaning in text if it is not feasible to do so programmatically. The How to Meet document describes this in some detail. tocheck
LC-754 Jeremy Walker <jeremy@on-sitemanager.com> on behalf of Developer (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: GE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

This document in its current form is an embarrasment to the W3C, and is a step backwards from the previous version. If made official, it will set back years of work by accessibility-focused web developers. Futhermore, by releasing this horrible standard you will hurt the prestige of the W3C as a standards organization; I for one will put significantly less stock in any body that produces works as flawed as this one. Please re-consider your plans to officially deploy this document, and send it back for some serious re-working.

Proposed Change:

There is so much wrong I don\'t even know where to begin ... Please see the excellent article by Joe Clark on A List Apart for more details:
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/tohellwithwcag2/
We received a great deal of input on the last call draft and have made a large number of changes including a rewrite of much of the draft to make it easier to understand. We have also included a new quick reference document that provides a tool for practitioners who just want the bottom line on the requirements and the techniques for meeting them in different technologies. We also shortened the Guidelines document considerably.

Here are some of the things we have done.

Easier language to understand
- Wrote simpler guidelines
- Removed as many technical terms (jargon) as possible replacing them with plainer language or, where possible, their definitions
- Eliminated several new or unfamiliar terms. (authored unit, etc.)
- Removed the term Baseline and replaced it with “web technologies that are accessibility supported� and then defined what it means to be accessibility supported.
- Removed the nesting of definitions where we could (i.e. definitions that pointed to other definitions)
- Tried to word things in manners that are more understandable to different levels of Web expertise
- Added short names/handles on each success criterion to make them easier to find and compare etc.
- Simplified the conformance

Shortening the document overall
- Shortened the introduction
- Moved much of the discussion out of the guidelines and put it in the Understanding WCAG 2.0 document
- Shortened the conformance section and moved it after the guidelines
- Moved mapping from WCAG 1 to a separate support document (so it can be updated more easily)

Creating a Quick Practitioner-oriented Summary / Checklist-like document
- Created a Quick Reference document that has just the Guidelines, success criteria and the techniques for meeting the success criteria.

Joe Clark also submitted his article as a comment. You may also want to review the working group's responses to that comment.
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LC-758 Jessica Enders <jessicae@hiser.com.au> on behalf of The Hiser Group (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

In the previous version of these guidelines there was a very specific criterion regarding placement of labels and their associated fields (10.2). There doesn\'t seem to be any mention of this in the current guidelines, yet I would have thought that placement significantly impacts on accessibility. For example, a screen reader experience with a label to the left of a field versus to the right would be quite different.

Proposed Change:

Suggest the ideal orientation of labels in reference to their associated fields, based on your knowledge of screen readers and related mechanisms people with disabilities use to navigate through forms.
Assistive technology has advanced since the WCAG 1.0 guidelines were released. As long as the label is explicitly associated with a field, the assistive technologies can present the information to the user in an understandable manner. A technique which describes how to associate labels with fields already exists, see, H44: Using label elements to associate text labels with form controls. However, since visual positioning can be important, especially for pages translated into other languages, we have added an advisory technique to Success Criterion 1.3.1 and Guideline 3.2 titled "Positioning labels to maximize predictability of relationships." In addition, the Comparison of WCAG 1.0 to 2.0 document provides some information about where the label requirement exists in WCAG 2.0. yes
LC-755 Jim Allan <jimallan@tsbvi.edu> on behalf of UAWG (archived comment)
Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

SC 3.2.2 Changing the setting of any form control or field does not automatically cause a change of context (beyond moving to the next field in tab order) unless the authored unit contains instructions before the control that describe the behavior.

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This is the only SC with a parenthetical clause (beyond moving to the next field in tab order). UAWG believes the clause violates user expectations of form control behavior.

Further, the clause violates UAAG Checkpoint 9.3 Move content focus (P1) http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/REC-UAAG10-20021217/guidelines.html#tech-nav-active

Techniques for checkpoint 9.3

1. Allow the user to move the content focus to any enabled element in the viewport.
2. Allow configuration so that the content focus of a viewport only changes on explicit user request.
3. If the author has not specified a navigation order, allow at least forward sequential navigation, in document order, to each element in the set established by provision one of this checkpoint.

Sufficient techniques

1. To satisfy provision two of this checkpoint, configuration is preferred, but is not required if the content focus only ever changes on explicit user request.

Default behavior is for content focus only ever changes on explicit user request.

Proposed Change:

remove the clause (beyond moving to the next field in tab order)
We have accepted your recommendation and removed the parenthetical clause. Note that auto-advance-focus can be an important accessibility aid for the mobility impaired, so it is still permitted, but only if the user has been warned about it as they would be if configured their user agent for this behavior. tocheck
LC-756 Jim Allan <jimallan@tsbvi.edu> on behalf of UAWG (archived comment)
Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

there is a need for more descriptive adjectives and phrases that put the responsibility of conformance with WCAG on the Web author (and not the user agent) by using valid accessibility features from their chosen baseline

Proposed Change:

new definition: determined from Web author-supplied data provided in a user-agent-supported manner, such as valid element tags and attributes, such that the user agents can extract and present this information to users in different modalities.
We have reworded the definition of programmatically determined to clarify that the data is provided by the author. tocheck
LC-713 Jim Thatcher <jim@jimthatcher.com> on behalf of JimThatcher.com (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: GE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

I had a talk with John Slatin about 4.2.2 on 5.21.2006. It is clear that what he was looking for:

\"The goal was to permit the user to explore the context without needing to navigate away from the link.\"

This is an admirable and very understandable user goal.

But I think it is impossible to build this requirement build into a success criterion. Using a phrase like “Programmatically associated� without defining it – doesn’t solve the problem.

Screen Reader/2 for OS/2 had a key command that allowed the user to “save the current state� do any other command, and return to the saved state when that completed or was stopped. So the goal of allowing the user to explore the context is AT specific, which you mentioned, Loretta. The point is that there is nothing structural about that exploration. Nothing related to the current link. You could “push the state, and read “line� 123 and be back where you were. You could read the whole page and be back at your link.

John Slatin mentioned http://slashdot.com as an example. In this case the context is the text above, not a paragraph; good context is the previous heading. But with current AT – I think –you can’t read the previous heading without loosing your place – or the previous paragraph. There are several different situations on Slashdot.com where generic links relate to a previous text which is not a paragraph tag – just a div.

However, with Slashdot (as John pointed out in our conversation), when you move to the Read more link from the JAWS links list JAWS announces the heading which is the (or a) context for the link – that’s cool. Furthermore, even though JAWS isn’t as sophisticated as Screen Reader/2 (!) you can accomplish the same kind of thing with PlaceMarkers. When you are on the link, press CTRL K to set a temporary place marker, Press SHIFT H for previous heading, Press K to return to the PlaceMarker, and you are back at the link. So the context is read without loosing your place.


One of my favorite examples of this problem area is the Priceline.com hotel listing - http://tinyurl.com/qh9o2.

There is a framed block for each hotel, of maybe 30 hotels. Each hotel block has 7 generic links, Choose, More, Features, etc., all concern the hotel at the top of the block. Priceline uses the title attributes to resolve this but we all know how well that is supported – the issue here is not about the title attributes – The issue is that there is no sensible “Programmatic association� of the hotel title to the generic links. For each generic link there is a (different) technique for accessing the hotel name – using a PlaceMarker. For Choose, use next table cell (CTRL ALT RIGHT ARROW). For More, Features, ... Map, use current table cell,(CTRL ALT UP ARROW), For the last link go up two cells. Combine these with the CTRL K and K combination, and one is able to explore context with out loosing the link.

The reason I am saying all this is I believe that there is nothing special about these examples. I think it is always going to be possible to find a combination of keys that will provide context for a “generic link.� And I think there will be no general sequence that will work in all or even many cases. (How about setting a place marker and moving back (up arrow) in the document? It fails for the Choose link in the Priceline example.)

In the same way as the Priceline and Slashdot examples, the first and third Examples of Success Criterion 2.4.4 don’t necessarily have any programmatic connection to the link itself. The important information could just be in a div – not the same paragraph, maybe not the same table cell. But WCAG 2.0 calls these success!

I think that 2.4.4 should be eliminated because there is no definition of what is wanted, and I think what is wanted will always be available anyway.


Proposed Change:

Remove SC 2.4.4.
We have reworded both SC 2.4.8 and SC 2.4.4 to clarify the differences between the two as well as the sufficient techniques that meet them. They now read:

2.4.4 The purpose of each link can be determined from the link text and its programmatically determined link context.
2.4.8 The purpose of each link can be identified from the link text.

where "Programmatically determined link context" is defined as:

programmatically determined link context
1. Additional information that can be programmatically determined from relationships with a link; and
2. can be extracted, combined with the link text, and presented to users in different modalities.

Example 1: Screen readers provide commands to read the current sentence when focus is on a link.
Example 2: Examples of information that can be extracted, combined with link text, and presented to users in different modalities include text that is in the same sentence, paragraph, list, or table cell as the link or in a table header cell that is associated with the table cell that contains the link.
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LC-844 Joe Clark 2 <joeclark@joeclark.org> (archived comment)
From http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0119.html

Natural languages

The primary natural language or languages of the Web unit can be programmatically determined.

* A document may be bilingual or multilingual with approximately equal proportions of content in different languages. At that point there is no ""primary"" natural language. (I tried to explain this to the Working Group, to so little avail that I hung up on Gregg Vanderheiden during a conference call. Your guess is as good as mine why the Working Group cannot accept this simple concept.)
* Some documents, like type samples, have no natural language. (As above.)
* There are some languages without language codes or whose language codes are in dispute or that diverge from specification to specification. In particular, [3]SIL is pretty much taking over the process of language-coding and has proposed many codes that do not match [4]ISO 639-2.
* Additionally, buried deep in the ISO 639-2 specification is a language code for multiple-language documents, lang=""mul"". Support for that code will be rather questionable in real-world devices, and its existence came as a surprise even to Richard Ishida of the W3C, who wrote a [5]Xerox paper that mentioned it.
We have revised our terminology to "default human language" to clarify the accessibility use of the information. Authors of multilingual documents are encouraged to meet SC 3.1.2, even if they are only claiming Level A conformance.

Even if a document contains no natural language text, it will need text equivalents for the non-text content, and the default language is used for the text equivalents.

While lang=""mul"" is a legal ISO 639-2 specification, it does not specify a default text processing language.

Regarding the work of SIL; they are working on ISO 639-3. We have updated the reference to RFC 3066 to RFC 4646 and have added "or its successor."
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LC-845 Joe Clark 2 <joeclark@joeclark.org> (archived comment)
From http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0119.html

audio description
narration added to the soundtrack to describe important visual details that cannot be understood from the main soundtrack alone. [...] Audio descriptions of video provide information about actions, characters, scene changes, and on-screen text. [...] In standard audio description, narration is added during existing pauses in dialogue.

1. Audio description provides ""information about actions, characters, scene changes, and on-screen text"" among other things. Nobody has produced an exhaustive list, and maybe we do or do not need such a thing, but it isn't limited to those items.
2. Audio description is typically ""added during existing pauses in dialogue."" There are quite a few occasions in which it is necessary to describe over dialogue.
3. ""Audio description"" is generally written as a mass noun, like ""captioning."" Hence ""audio description of video provides.""
WCAG 2.0 defines audio description (AD) as an alternative that is inserted during natural occurring pauses. We cannot require AD to occur over dialogue, even if there is not enough space to fully describe the content, because putting AD over dialogue would make that dialogue inaccessible. Level AAA requires extended audio description which is usually how this should be handled.

Although AD is not yet standardized as a Mass noun (http://ncam.wgbh.org/richmedia/tutorials/audiodesc.html), there is momentum in the industry to make it a mass noun and therefore we have changed it according to your recommendation.

We have also revised the first note in the definition of audio description to read, "Audio description of video provides information about actions, characters, scene changes, on-screen text, and other visual content."
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LC-846 Joe Clark 2 <joeclark@joeclark.org> (archived comment)
From http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0119.html

captions
text presented and synchronized with multimedia to provide not only the speech, but also sound effects and sometimes speaker identification

The term they're looking for here is ""non-speech information, including meaningful sound effects and identification of speakers"" (the latter a slightly different sense than ""speaker identification,"" which seems to require explicitly naming the speaker).

Note: In some countries, the term ""subtitle"" is used to refer to dialogue only and ""captions"" is used as the term for dialogue plus sounds and speaker identification. In other countries, subtitle (or its translation) is used to refer to both.
Those other countries are wrong. [6]Captioning is captioning and subtitling is subtitling. WCAG 2 should not muddy the waters by giving any credibility to errors of nomenclature in other English dialects.
We changed "sound effects and sometimes speaker identification" to "non-speech information conveyed through sound, including meaningful sound effects and identification of speakers"

We kept the note since, although one might consider them wrong, they still do this in both common and official language. The note is therefore accurate and important for people to understand".
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LC-847 Joe Clark 2 <joeclark@joeclark.org> (archived comment)
From http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0119.html

label
text, image, or sound that is presented to a user to identify a component within Web content

Apparently it's possible to label something solely with a sound. Doesn't a sound, like an image, then require a text equivalent? Don't you always end up with text? And doesn't this ban the use of video or multimedia as a label? I'm not proposing such a thing, but it seems no less palatable than using an image or a sound as a label.
Thanks for catching. "Sound" shouldn't be there and was removed. And labels are not limited to text and images.

It now reads:

label
text, or other component with a text alternative, that is presented to a user to identify a component within Web content

Note: See also [name].
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LC-848 Joe Clark 2 <joeclark@joeclark.org> (archived comment)
From http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0119.html

sign-language interpretation
translation of spoken words and other audible information into a language that uses a simultaneous combination of handshapes, facial expressions, and orientation and movement of the hands, arms, or body to convey meaning

One may translate only spoken words? Under WCAG, it becomes illegal to translate from one sign language to another. It also becomes illegal to do what Canada's Copyright Act [7]permits - translate a written work into sign language.
We cannot find anything in the guidelines that prohibits sign language to sign language translation. The definition of sign language interpretation in WCAG 2.0 clearly does not prohibit it. It simply defines the term as used in the success criteria. The success criteria make requirements but do not in any way prevent or forbid translation of one sign language into another. tocheck
LC-849 Joe Clark 2 <joeclark@joeclark.org> (archived comment)
From http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0119.html

text
sequence of characters[INS: [.] :INS] Note: Characters are those included in the Unicode/ISO/IEC 106464 repertoire.

One may use only characters in Unicode. Given that several scripts are [8]unencoded in Unicode, this may present a problem. Some East Asian languages are more robustly published with legacy encodings even if that is ""improper."" I repeatedly tried to explain to the Working Group that all that matters is a defined and understandable character encoding.
We have changed the definition of text and non-text so that it is clear that we don't preclude the use of non-Unicode encodings as long as AT can handle them (i.e. they can be 'programmatically determined').

text: http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#textdef
non-text content: http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#non-text-contentdef
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LC-851 Joe Clark 2 <joeclark@joeclark.org> (archived comment)
From http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0119.html

used in an unusual restricted way
words used in such a way that users must know exactly what definition to apply in order to understand the content correctly

As opposed to when? When is it possible to misunderstand the definition yet still ""understand the content correctly""?
We have modified the definition slightly to clarify that that this situation applies to situations where words are used in ways where multiple definitions may apply and which definition to use may be unclear to the user. tocheck
LC-855 Joe Clark 2 <joeclark@joeclark.org> (archived comment)
From http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0119.html

We are starting to gather implementation examples during this Last Call review process. Implementation examples are examples of pages or sites that conform to the proposed WCAG 2.0 at various levels of conformance.

I don't see any evidence that the Working Group is ""starting to gather"" anything. I don't see evidence that they're looking for or soliciting ""implementation examples,"" which in any event are virtually nonexistent. WCAG 2, after all, wasn't released in anything resembling a final version until late April 2006. There hasn't been time for authors, even if they wished to comply with WCAG 2, to take measures to do so. (Then there is the fact that there is no payoff for authors to comply with a specification that, first of all, isn't final yet and, second of all, that they may seriously disagree with.)
The Implementation phase begins with the completion of Last Call. We are however already talking to companies and individuals regarding implementations. To make this clearer, we have added the following sentence:
"For those interested in contributing to this effort, please contact Michael Cooper, W3C staff contact to the WCAG WG."
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LC-856 Joe Clark 2 <joeclark@joeclark.org> (archived comment)
From http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0119.html

The first public Working Draft of WCAG 2.0 was published 25 January 2001. Since then, the WCAG WG has published nine Working Drafts, addressed more than 1,000 issues, and developed a variety of support information for the guidelines.

Exactly how these 1,000 issues were ""addressed"" is open to dispute. Start with the use of a Mozilla Bugzilla database as a front end for bug reports. It's a remarkably inaccessible form, and baffling even to a nondisabled expert. It's true that many, possibly hundreds, of bug reports were remedied by rewriting the spec, but it's also true that many bug reports were simply ignored (with responses that boiled down to ""We don't agree this is a bug"").

At time of writing, WCAG Bugzilla had [10]27 open bugs.
All comments received on the 27 April 2006 Last Call Working Draft have been tracked in a separate database (not bugzilla), and responses written for all the comments. The explanations may include how the working group has modified the spec to address the comment, why the working group feels the issue is outside the scope of the spec, or why the working group does not agree with the commenter. tocheck
LC-857 Joe Clark 2 <joeclark@joeclark.org> (archived comment)
From http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0119.html

If a success criterion relates to a feature, component or type of content that is not used in the content (for example, there is no multimedia on the site), then that success criterion is met automatically.

What should happen is that the success criterion is not applicable. You can't pass a guideline that doesn't apply to anything in your document. By that logic, we'd all be awarded gold medals in the 100-metre dash just for not showing up.
We have rewritten the conformance section to require that all success criteria be satisfied, and that satisfaction of a success criterion happens when when the evaluation of it is not "false".

This addresses the problem without authors getting into labeling success criteria as "not applying" (which others have pointed out leads to problems with people using 'not apply' too broadly).
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LC-858 Joe Clark 2 <joeclark@joeclark.org> (archived comment)
From http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0119.html

After many, many warnings that they were making a series of mistakes and were not considering real-world Web sites, which they apparently never read, the WCAG Working Group went right ahead and listed the following for text equivalents to ""non-text content"":

If non-text content presents information or responds to user input, text alternatives serve the same purpose and present the same information as the non-text content. If text alternatives cannot serve the same purpose, then text alternatives at least identify the purpose of the non-text content.

How do I ""present the same information"" - note, the same information - if my non-text content is, say, a thumbnail image of the front page of a newspaper? That's a lot to retype into an alt text, don't you think?
If the non-text content is a thumbnail image of the front page of a newspaper, its purpose is not to present information. What is it used for; what is it's purpose? If it provides a link to the newspaper, the text alternative should be something like "Smallville Times" which serves the same purpose as the thumbnail image does. If it is simply decorative, the text alternative should be null as indicated by the last bullet. To clarify this point, we have added a thumbnail image example to HTM 1.1.1. tocheck
LC-860 Joe Clark 2 <joeclark@joeclark.org> (archived comment)
From http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0119.html

Following these guidelines will also make your Web content more accessible to the vast majority of users, including older users. It will also enable people to access Web content using many different devices - including a wide variety of assistive technologies.

1. Older users are within the remit of Web accessibility inasmuch as they are people with disabilities and in no other way.
2. We are not writing accessibility guidelines for devices.
We have modified the introduction to make clearer the relationship between aging and disabilities, and we have removed the reference to other devices. tocheck
LC-861 Joe Clark 2 <joeclark@joeclark.org> (archived comment)
From http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0119.html

The concepts of scoping, baseline, and target audience are so misguided as to derail WCAG's entire project. The first two topics were addressed in my A List Apart article. The last one deserves mention here.

Information about audience assumptions or target audience. This could include language, geographic information, or other pertinent information about the intended audience. The target-audience information CANNOT specify anything related to disability or to physical, sensory or cognitive requirements. [INS: [Overwrought emphasis sic] :INS]

In other words, even if you extensively test your site and can demonstrate the following is true, you cannot state that your site is accessible to people with disabilities. While the guideline appears to be intended to make it impossible to declare, for example, that a site is not meant to be used by blind people, it also becomes impossible to state that it provably can be used by them.
WCAG no longer includes the sentence that target-audience information cannot specify anything related to disability.

However, we continue to feel that it is invalid to say that the target audience does not include people with disabilities or particular disability.
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LC-862 Joe Clark 2 <joeclark@joeclark.org> (archived comment)
From http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0119.html

Nobody can understand what the hell a ""Web unit"" is. In the following explanation -

A Web unit conforms to WCAG 2.0 at a given conformance level only if all content provided by that Web unit (including any secondary resources that are rendered as part of the Web unit) conforms at that level.

- what happens if I have a page full of thumbnail images, each with correct alt text as required and each of which links to an image file of a larger version of the picture? Since the image by itself has no HTML or other markup, it's impossible to write an alt text for it. Is this not a ""secondary resource""? If it isn't, does it not then constitute a ""Web unit"" unto itself? Since Web units that are simple image files cannot be made accessible, doesn't WCAG 2 essentially ban freestanding image files?

(We are later told that linking to nonconforming content ""is not prohibited"" - gee, thanks - but only if ""the content itself is [INS: [not] :INS] a Web unit within the set of URIs to which the conformance claim applies."" Hence if my freestanding image is still hosted on my site, I have to make it comply with my conformance claim, which at the very least requires a text equivalent, in turn meaning I have to wrap the image file in HTML. But by the time you the site visitor have selected and loaded that expanded image, you will already have had a chance to read the alt text on the thumbnail image.)
We have revised the guidelines and eliminated the word "Web unit" in favor of "Web page." We have defined "Web page" (see http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#webpagedef ):

Web page

a resource that is referenced by a URI and is not embedded in another resource, plus any other resources that are used in the rendering or intended to be rendered together with it

Note: Although any "other resources" would be rendered together with the primary resource, they would not necessarily be rendered simultaneously with each other.

Example 1: When you enter http://shopping.example.com/ in your browser you enter a movie-like interactive shopping environment where you visually move about a store dragging products off of the shelves around you into a visual shopping cart in front of you. Clicking on a product causes it to be demonstrated with a specification sheet floating alongside.

Example 2: A Web resource including all embedded images and media.

Example 3: A Web mail program built using Asynchronous JavaScript and XML (AJAX). The program lives entirely at http://mail.example.com, but includes an inbox, a contacts area and a calendar. Links or buttons are provided that cause the the inbox, contacts, or calendar to display, but do not change the URL of the page as a whole.

Example 4: A customizable portal site, where users can choose content to display from a set of different content modules.

In the situation that you describe, the freestanding images would constitute separate Web pages and would need to conform to WCAG or not be included in a claim. Putting it in an HTML page would be an easy way to make it accessible if that was desired.
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LC-869 Joe Clark 2 <joeclark@joeclark.org> (archived comment)
From http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0119.html

Some omissions immediately spring to mind. I have not done an exhaustive check for such omissions.

1. There are no exemptions for examples or teaching materials. It is illegal under WCAG to publish known incorrect documents as a learning aid. You cannot publish the homework for your Web-development students online (e.g., ""Fix these pages"") and have it all pass WCAG.
2. No accommodation of languageless documents like type samples.
This is correct. If content does not conform to the success criteria then it would not be listed as conforming. We have reworded the conformance section so that WCAG does not delineate what should or shouldn't conform but rather what does or doesn't conform.

Content that does not conform can be left out of any conformance claim or the statement of partial conformance can be used to identify it.

There can be good reasons, such as the examples listed in the comment, for content not to conform. It is out of the scope of WCAG to say what should or shouldn't be a good reason but the working group acknowledges that such reasons exist. Such content should not be labeled as conforming though.
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LC-842 Joe Clark <joeclark@joeclark.org> (archived comment)
See article TO HELL WITH WCAG 2.0 at: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0118.html
Given the format of the article it is difficult to know exactly what issues the comment would like the Working Group to address. We have attempted to extract issues from the article that apply to the Guidelines document.

[THWW] 1. Exactly what a "page" is, let alone a "site," will be a matter of dispute.

Response: We have replaced the term "Web unit" with "Web page".

[THWW] 2. A future website that complies with WCAG 2 won't need valid HTML--at all, ever. (More on that later.) You will, however, have to check the DOM outputs of your site in multiple browsers and prove they're identical.

Response: Validity is still not required (although it is the #1 recommended sufficient technique for meeting SC 4.1.1). Also, SC 4.1.1 has been changed to "Content implemented using markup languages has elements with complete start and end tags, except as allowed by their specifications, and are nested according to their specifications." There are no longer techniques based on DOM outputs.

[THWW] 3. You can still use tables for layout. (And not just a table--tables for layout, plural.)

Yes, this is correct. Although WCAG 2, like HTML 4.01, does not prohibit the use of layout tables, CSS-based layouts are recommended in order to retain the defined semantic meaning of the HTML table elements and to conform to the coding practice of separating presentation from content.

[THWW] 4. Your page, or any part of it, may blink for up to three seconds. Parts of it may not, however, "flash."

Reponse: This is correct. Short blinking to get attention is allowed as long as it doesn't last long. Flashing is also allowed if it is very small or not very intense. Flashing that is known to cause seizures however is not allowed. The glossary defines the difference between blink and flash:

Blink: turn on and off between 0.5 and 3 times per second
Note: The slower blink is in contrast with flashing, which refers to rapid changes in brightness which can cause seizures. See general flash threshold and red flash threshold.


[THWW] 5. You'll be able to define entire technologies as a list of the specific Baseline Technologies meaning anyone without that technology has little, if any, recourse to complain that your site is inaccessible to them.

Response: The term "baseline" has been replaced by "web technologies that are accessibility supported". We have clarified what needs to be true about user agent support (including AT) for a technology to be considered accessibility-supported. Of course users may challenge the assessment of whether a technology is accessibility-supported.

[THWW] 6. You'll be able to define entire directories of your site as off-limits to accessibility (including, in WCAG 2's own example, all your freestanding videos).

We have changed the wording to make this clearer. As with all W3C content technologies, you state what conforms. We are leaving to customers, organizations or policy makers to set policy about what a site is and how much of it must conform.

[THWW] 7. If you wish to claim WCAG 2 compliance, you must publish a checklist of declarations more reminiscent of a forced confession than any of the accessibility policies typically found today.

Response: The required information for a claim doesn't seem excessive or onerous:
1. The date of the claim
2. The guidelines title/version
3. The guidelines URI
4. The conformance level you are claiming
5. A list of the specific technologies you have relied upon (and are assuming are accessible) in making your claim
6. What it is that you are claiming conforms (which URIs).

The rest of the points in a conformance claim are all optional.

[THWW] 8. Not that anybody ever made them accessible, but if you post videos online, you no longer have to provide audio descriptions for the blind at the lowest "conformance" level. And only prerecorded videos require captions at that level.

Response: this is correct.

[THWW] 9. Your podcasts may have to be remixed so that dialogue is 20 decibels louder than lengthy background noise. (You don't have to caption or transcribe them, since they aren't "multimedia" anymore. However, slideshows are now officially deemed to be "video," which will come as a surprise to Flickr users.)

Response: SC 1.4.5 (the background sound requirement) is a Level AAA requirement. If you want to make your podcasts very accessible you would not have loud background sounds behind your speech. If the podcast is just speech with no other significant sounds, then captions are not required but a transcript is (under 1.1.1 since it is non-text content). Slideshows that have audio would be multimedia. A slideshow without sound or interaction would not be multimedia.

[THWW] 10. You can put a few hundred navigation links on a single page and do nothing more, but if you have two pages together that have three navigation links each, you must provide a way to skip navigation.

Response: this is correct.

[THWW] 11. You can't use offscreen positioning to add labels (e.g., to forms) that only some people, like users of assistive technology, can perceive. Everybody has to see them.

Response: We have made this clearer. Labels are visible names on user interface elements. Names are sometimes visible and sometimes not, but are accessible to AT. Unless it is visually very obvious what a control is for, names should be visible (labels) to make the forms easier for people with cognitive disabilities.

[THWW] 12. CSS layouts, particularly those with absolutely-positioned elements that are removed from the document flow, may simply be prohibited at the highest level. In fact, source order must match presentation order even at the lowest level.

Response: CSS layouts are not prohibited. Source order must match presentation order only when it would change the meaning of the content to present it in a different order.

[THWW] 13. Also at the highest level, you have to provide a way to find all of the following:
1. Definitions of idioms and "jargon"
2. Expansion of acronyms
3. Pronunciations of some words

Response: this is correct.

[THWW] 14. You also have to provide an alternate document if a reader with a "lower secondary education level" couldn't understand your main
document. (In fact, WCAG 2 repeatedly proposes maintaining separate accessible and inaccessible pages. In some cases, you don't necessarily have to improve your inaccessible pages as long as you produce another page.)

Response: Providing an alternate document is one option for satisfying SC 3.1.5. Providing supplemental information, such as illustrations or multimedia, would be another way. Or writing your content in simpler language in the first place.

WCAG does not encourage separate accessible pages. WCAG 2 permits alternate versions of Web pages because it may be helpful to have a version of a page that is tailored for particular disabilities, particularly for cognitive, language, and learning disabilities. Alternate versions may also be used if an author is providing different versions for users with different user agent capabilities. In order to claim conformance, the alternative pages must provide equivalent information and an accessible mechanism for finding the conforming version.

[THWW] What do the following terms really mean?

authored unit
authored component
web unit
parsed unambiguously
programmatically determined

Response: "authored unit", "authored component", and "parse unambiguously" have been removed from the guidelines. "Web unit" has been replaced by "Web page".

"Programmatically determined" remains. It is a new term to express the ability for user agents including AT to access information. We have added examples to the definition to clarify.

[THWW] Testability section:

Response: The testability paragraph of the Conformance section now reads "All WCAG 2.0 success criteria are written to be testable. While some can be tested by computer programs, others require human testers for part or all of the test. When people who understand how people with different types of disabilities use the Web test the same content using the same success criteria, the same results should be obtained with a high level of confidence."

[THWW] Testability - "you'll notice that even something as deceptively simple as that WCAG 1 guideline on clear and simple writing isn't there."

Response: Testability is important so that an author can determine whether WCAG has been satisfied. The "Clear and simple" provision from WCAG 1.0 is not in WCAG 2.0 as a Success Criterion because there is no way for an author to tell whether language is "clear and simple". While there might be agreement that one version is simpler than another, how does an author know that the simpler version doesn't need to be simplified further? When does it reach "clear and simple". When is a page on string theory or quantum mechanics 'clear and simple'?
This has been a tough area that the working group has wrestled with. The working group has tried to find ways to address this and related issues both through testable requirements and through advisory techniques. WAI is also exploring a separate activity to see what new techniques can be developed to address cognitive, language and learning issues, as well as to find ways to provide focused advice on just this area. This effort will look at how this is addressed throughout different parts of WAI's work.

[THWW] Conformance levels

Response: The description of conformance levels in WCAG 2 has been rewritten to clarify these issues:

The word "levels" does not mean that some success criteria are more important than others. Each success criterion in WCAG 2.0 is essential to some users, and the levels build upon each other. However, even content that conforms at AAA (triple-A) may not be fully accessible to every person with a disability.

*In general, Level A success criteria achieve accessibility by supporting assistive technology while putting the fewest possible limits on presentation. Thus people with a wide range of disabilities using a wide range of assistive technologies, from voice input and eye-tracking devices to screen readers and screen magnifiers, are able to access content in different ways. In other words, Level A success criteria support the ability of both mainstream and specialized user agents to adapt content to formats that meet their users' needs.
* The success criteria in Level AA provide additional support for assistive technology. At the same time, they also support direct access to content by the many people who use conventional user agents without assistive technology. In general, Level AA success criteria place more limits on visual presentation and other aspects of content than the success criteria in Level A.
*Level AAA success criteria increase both direct access and access through assistive technology. They place tighter limits on both presentation and content."


[THWW]: Standards

Response: The working group looked at the topic of standards compliance carefully over an extended period of time and concluded that requiring strict adherence to all aspects of specifications does not necessarily result in an increase in accessibility. For example, it is possible to create invalid pages that present no accessibility barriers. It is also possible in certain situations to enhance accessibility through the use of markup that is not part of the specification.
The working group must work within its charter and only include things that directly affected accessibility. Some aspects of "use technologies according to specification" and validity do relate to accessibility. However, others do not. So requiring validity would take us beyond our charter. We do recommend it though and it is our #1 technique listed for conforming to SC 4.1.1.
It should be noted that other W3C standards do not require conformance to other standards.

[THWW]: Captioning and audio description for multimedia

Response: It is difficult to tell what WCAG 2 changes you would like to see in this area, but it sounds as if you would like the requirement for audio description and captioning of live multi-media to be Level A requirements, while deploring the lack of support for these WCAG1 requirements. The feasibility of providing captions and audio description for all live content on the Web is a major question. We have received many comments on both sides of this issue. After reviewing them all and extensive discussions, the consensus of the working group was to go with the current provisions as a best fit to the issues.
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LC-734 John Nissen <jn@cloudworld.co.uk> on behalf of Cloudworld Ltd, London W4 2PR (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: GE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

[See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/att-0151/WCAG_comment.doc for original comments.]

I am concerned about 4.2.2, point 1, as regards both (a) ease of comprehension (in particular in the use of “entered� when concerned with “content�) and (b) effectiveness (in case the user can be “trapped� through other means).

In the comparison document,
http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/appendixD.html,
we have:


And if all else fails (Priority 1) WCAG 2.0 Success Criteria
11.4: If, after best efforts, you cannot create an accessible page, provide a link to an alternative page that uses W3C technologies, is accessible, has equivalent information (or functionality), and is updated as often as the inaccessible (original) page. 4.2.1 At least one version of the content meets all level 1 success criteria, but alternate version(s) that do not meet all level 1 success criteria may be available from the same URI. (Level 1)
4.2.2 Content meets the following criteria even if the content uses a technology that is not in the chosen baseline: (Level 1)
1. If content can be entered using the keyboard, then the content can be exited using the keyboard.
2. Content conforms to success criterion 2.3.1 (general and red flash).



In the “Understanding� document,
http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/,
we have:
How to Meet Success Criterion 4.2.2
4.2.2 Content meets the following criteria even if the content uses a technology that is not in the chosen baseline: (Level 1)
1. If content can be entered using the keyboard, then the content can be exited using the keyboard.
2. Content conforms to success criterion 2.3.1 (general and red flash).
Key Terms
content
information to be communicated to the user by means of a user agent
Note: This includes the code and markup that define the structure, presentation, and interaction, as well as text, images, and sounds that convey information to the end-user.
baseline
set of technologies assumed to be supported by, and enabled in, user agents
Note: For more information on baselines and their use, refer to Technology Assumptions and the \"baseline.\"
Intent of this success criterion
The intent of this success criterion is to ensure that content which uses technologies outside the baseline does not include components that actively interfere with the accessibility of the remaining content. Such components include:
• components that would trap keyboard users within inaccessible content.
• flashing components that could cause seizures due to photosensitivity
\"Keyboard trapping\" refers to a common situation in which the keyboard focus can become stuck in inaccessible plugins, leaving a keyboard-only user with no way to return to the accessible content. The requirement that content that can be entered via the keyboard can be exited via the keyboard is to prevent this \'lock up\' effect.
The requirement to satisfy Success Criterion 2.3.1 is intended to ensure that users with photosensitivity (including users who may not be aware of their vulnerability) do not encounter flashing content that could cause a seuzure.
Content may be implemented in technologies that are not in the baseline if accessible alternatives are provided using technologies that are in the baseline, or if the content is accessible from a user agent that supports only the technologies in the baseline. It is vital that there be no characteristics of any of the content that actively interfere with its accessibility. This is because user agents that support the technology used could be present and create accessibility problems even though the technology is not part of the baseline.



In the techniques document,
http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20060427/Overview.html#G21
we have:
G21: Ensuring that users are not trapped in content
Applicability
All technologies which support interactive operation.
This technique is referenced from:
• How to Meet Success Criterion 2.1.1
• How to Meet Success Criterion 4.2.2
Description
The objective of this technique is to ensure that keyboard users do not become trapped in a subset of the content that can only be exited using a mouse or pointing device. A common example is content rendered by plug-ins. Plug-ins are user agents that render content inside the user agent host window and respond to all user actions that takes place while the plug-in has the focus. If the plug-in does not provide a keyboard mechanism to return focus to the parent window, users who must use the keyboard may become trapped in the plug-in content.
This problem can be avoided by using one of the following mechanisms to provide a way for users to escape the subset of the content:
• Ensuring that the keyboard function for advancing focus within content (commonly the tab key) exits the subset of the content after it reaches the final navigation location.
• Providing a keyboard function to move the focus out of the subset of the content. Be sure to document the feature in an accessible manner within the subset.
• If the subset of the content does natively provide a \"move to parent\" keyboard command, documenting that command before the user enters the plug-in so they know how to get out again.
Examples
• Once a user tabs into an applet, further tabs are handled by the applet preventing the person from tabbing out. However, the applet is designed so that it returns keyboard focus back to the parent window when the person finishes tabbing through the tab sequence in the applet.



My concerns are over comprehension and effectiveness.

(a) Concern over comprehension

The use of the word “entered� in connection with “content� suggests that the user is entering text, for example entering text into a field of a form (such as search terms into Google). It is clear from the “Understanding� document that “entering� refers to entering a part of the page (i.e. subset of the content). Therefore I suggest changing the point as follows:

1. If a part or subset of the content (using a technology that is not in the chosen baseline), can be entered using the keyboard, then that part or subset can be exited using the keyboard.

(b) Concern over effectiveness

It is not at all obvious that this is about trapping, nor that it is effective against trapping in general. (For example, I could envisage being trapped by a pointing device if there were no way to exit using the pointing device.) So I would like to see the point made more explicit and more general by a further change as follows:

1. If a part or subset of the content (using a technology that is not in the chosen baseline), can be entered using some device (such as the keyboard), then that part or subset can be exited using the same device, such that a user cannot be trapped in that part without a means to exit.

Furthermore, the effectiveness relies on the means of exiting being documented in such a way that it is obvious to the user how to escape. So I suggest adding the word “obvious� to the above:


1. If a part or subset of the content (using a technology that is not in the chosen baseline), can be entered using some device (such as the keyboard), then that part or subset can be exited using the same device, such that a user cannot be trapped in that part without an obvious means to exit.



Proposed Change:
Thank you for pointing out the ambiguity in the use of the word "entered". To clarify, we have adapted your proposal and changed conformance requirement 6, item 1, as follows:
"If focus can be moved to technologies that are not accessibility supported using a keyboard interface, then focus can be moved away from that content using only a keyboard interface, and the method for doing so is described before the content is encountered and in a way that meets all Level A success criteria."

Although making the means to exit obvious to the user is important to the effectiveness of any technique, we are unable to determine any way to test whether a technique is obvious, since it depends upon the user's expectations. The technique "Ensuring that users are not trapped in content" discusses the need to document the mechanism.
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LC-1331 John Nissen <jn@cloudworld.co.uk> (archived comment)
Dear Chair and members of WAI,

I would like to suggest some improvement in 4.2.2. I have documented my proposal, and the reasons for it, in the attached document. I have to admit that at first reading of 4.2.2 (point 1), I was completely flumoxed. But having read through a lot of explanation, I think you could make the point a lot clearer and also more effective by some small changes.

BTW, I notice that the deadline for comments is 31st May, and I shall be out next week for half-term holiday! So if there is a problem with this submission, please let me know by return.

Yours sincerely,

John

[See attachment to
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0151
]
Thank you for pointing out the ambiguity in the use of the word "entered". This success criterion has been moved to conformance. To clarify, we have adapted your proposal and changed conformance requirement 6, item 1, as follows:
"If focus can be moved to technologies that are not accessibility supported using a keyboard interface, then focus can be moved away from that content using only a keyboard interface, and the method for doing so is described before the content is encountered and in a way that meets all Level A success criteria."

Although making the means to exit obvious to the user is important to the effectiveness of any technique, we are unable to determine any way to test whether a technique is obvious, since it depends upon the user's expectations.
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LC-762 Jon Gunderson <jongund@uiuc.edu> on behalf of University of Illinois (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

These requirement seems to deal with collections of web resources (units). I think that this should be stated that you are creating some type of conformance for a collection of resources. It would make it much clearer. I think this should also be in the conformance section.

If a resource does not meet the requirements, it just doesn\'t meet the requirements.

Proposed Change:

1. Move this requirement to conformance section
2. Clearly state you want people to be able to make conformance claims on collections of resources.
We have revised the conformance section significantly and have clarified how claims for collections of versions can be made:

4.) Alternate Versions: If the Web page does not meet all of the success criteria for a specified level, then a mechanism to obtain an alternate version that meets all of the success criteria can be derived from the nonconforming content or its URI, and that mechanism meets all success criteria for the specified level of conformance. The alternate version does not need to be matched page for page with the original (e.g. the alternative to a page may consist of multiple pages). If multiple language versions are available, then conforming versions are required for each language offered.
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LC-838 Jon Gunderson <jongund@uiuc.edu> on behalf of UIUC (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: substantive
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

I recommend this requirement be moved to SC1. If descriptions of an image are SC1, then are not descriptions or titles of a web page of equal importance? This should be merged with requirements of 2.4.5 and that descriptions/titles should be \"unique\" for collections of a web resources as part of the success criteria.

See UIUC Web Accessibility Best Practices:
http://html.cita.uiuc.edu/nav/title.php


Proposed Change:

I recommend this requirement be moved to SC1 and merged with the requirements of 2.4.5.
We have added "descriptive" to SC 2.4.3 and moved it to level A.

The success criterion does not require that titles be unique because the working group is concerned that requiring uniqueness will lead to titles that are not as descriptive and usable. It may be very difficult to create titles that are descriptive, unique, and reasonably short. For example, a Web page that generates titles dynamically based on its content might need to include part of the dynamic content in the title to ensure that it was unique. We are also concerned that authors may make titles unique mechanically, such as by including a unique number in the title that is unrelated to the content. For these reasons, although we encourage unique titles in the techniques for this SC, we are not including uniqueness in the SC itself.

SC 2.4.5 has been moved to Level AA. It addresses descriptive headings and labels, which may need to be understood in context. While headings may not have sufficient descriptive power in isolation, when viewed in the context of a structured document, they do have sufficient descriptive power.
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LC-839 Jon Gunderson <jongund@uiuc.edu> on behalf of UIUC (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: substantive
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

If descriptions of an image are SC1, then are not descriptions of a web page titles and headings of equal importance?

Proposed Change:

Change to SC1. Consider merging with requirement of SC 2.4.3.
SC 2.4.5 has been moved to Level AA. It addresses descriptive headings and labels, which may need to be understood in context. While headings may not have sufficient descriptive power in isolation, when viewed in the context of a structured document, they do have sufficient descriptive power. tocheck
LC-999 Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org> on behalf of W3C/WAI, on behalf of the Education and Outreach Working Group (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: substantive
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

The term \"conformance\" is not necessarily a well understood term for many readers, and its use in the definition of \"normative\" therefore makes the definition of \"normative\" difficult to understand.


Proposed Change:

Add a definition for conformance, consistent with the definition of the EOWG definition of \"conforms,\"
http://www.w3.org/WAI/glossary/basic.html#conform
to the WCAG 2.0 glossary, and reference it in the definition of \"normative.\"
We have added the term to the glossary as follows:

conformance
satisfying all the requirements of a given standard, guideline or specification
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LC-1310 Karen Mardahl <karen@mardahl.dk> (archived comment)
Dear WCAG Working Group Members,

This is a response to the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines 2.0 (WCAG
2.0) from the Accessibility Special Interest Group (AccessAbility SIG)
of the Society for Technical Communication (STC).

Although this response is being sent by the leadership of the
AccessAbility SIG, it represents the work of a subcommittee on behalf of
the entire special interest group.

All AccessAbility SIG members are technical authors, and many are web
users with disabilities, some are usability practitioners, and some are
web accessibility experts. As such, the group has particular expertise
with both web accessibility and document design, as well as having
first-hand experience of the issues web users with disabilities face.

We know that WCAG 2.0 is the result of hard work by a lot of people for
a long time, and we appreciate these efforts. However, the AccessAbility
SIG would like to express its concerns regarding the current WCAG 2.0
document and to offer our assistance with re-thinking, re-structuring,
and re-writing the accompanying documents. We feel that the information
in the supporting documents is very difficult to use and needs
significant restructuring in order to be meaningful to the target
audiences.

The Working Group has indicated that the deadline for review of the WCAG
documents should focus on the WCAG 2.0 guidelines themselves, and that
the supporting documents ("Understanding WCAG 2.0" and "Techniques for
WCAG 2.0") do not have a deadline for comments, although reviewers "may
find them helpful in understanding or implementing the provisions in the
guidelines."

The guidelines in the WCAG 2.0 document comprise approximately 10 pages
in a documentation set that is well over 650 printed pages.
Unfortunately, we feel that it is impossible to assess or approve the
guidelines in the main document without reviewing the supporting
documents in full, a daunting task at best. We recommend extending the
deadline further and including commentary on the entire set of documents
as a unit.

GOALS OF WCAG 2.0

The goals of WCAG 2.0 are laudable. As stated in "Overview of WCAG 2.0
Documents" (http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/wcag20.php):

"WCAG 2.0 is being developed to apply to different Web technologies, be
easier to use and understand, and be more precisely testable, as
documented in Requirements for WCAG 2.0."

According to the "Requirements for WCAG 2.0", W3C Working Group Note 25
April 2006 (http://www.w3.org/TR/wcag2-req/):

(begin quotation)

The primary goal of WCAG 2.0 is the same as 1.0: to promote
accessibility of Web content. Additional goals discussed in this
document are:

1. Ensure that requirements may be applied across technologies
2. Ensure that the conformance requirements are clear
3. Design deliverables with ease of use in mind
4. Write to a more diverse audience
5. Clearly identify who benefits from accessible content
6. Ensure that the revision is "backwards and forward compatible"

(end quotation)

ANALYSIS

Although we agree that general technical standards can be useful, the
target audiences (web authors, web developers, policy makers and
managers) need first and foremost practical guidance which relates to
their tasks. We suggest reconsidering both the concept and the writing
of the WCAG 2.0.

The users of the WCAG 2.0 will benefit enormously if the WCAG Working
Group (WG) could consider:

- Ensuring that the structure of the document and the language are
accessible and easy to understand for target audiences.

- Re-thinking the purpose and focusing on providing practical guidance
to the target audiences.

Our main concerns:

1. The concept of the WCAG 2.0: the WCAG 2.0 "tries to be everything to
everybody for all time"--as a result, the guidelines are too general and
lack practicality.

The Requirements document for WCAG 2.0 (http://www.w3.org/TR/wcag2-req/,
under point 4 "Write to a more diverse audience") defines the different
users of the WCAG and the tasks these users will be performing for which
they will need guidance from the WCAG 2.0. These tasks are very concrete
and--as practitioners experienced in document design--we firmly believe
the current WCAG 2.0 will not be helpful to these users in achieving
their goals.

We also believe that the WCAG 2.0 guidelines need to be more measurable
as well as testable to enable heuristic evaluation as part of
accessibility assessments.

2. The writing of the WCAG 2.0: structure, language, and navigational
structure make the document hard to understand and navigate.

Again referring to the Requirements document, point 3 states "Design
deliverables with ease of use in mind". Based on our experience as
technical authors, we are convinced that the current WCAG 2.0 will be
very hard to use by the target audiences.

Unfortunately, WCAG 2.0 is not easier to use and understand than WCAG
1.0. The primary goal of promoting accessibility has been all but lost
for the practitioners of web content accessibility because of
problematic goals, complexity of language, and the cumbersome
organization of the documents that has evolved over time.

Goals:

In our opinion, there are three goals that need to be reconsidered to
make WCAG 2.0 more effective:

1. Ensuring that the revision is forward compatible--while a good
guiding principle for the authors of WCAG itself--should not be made
part of the guidelines for people needing to apply the technologies
today. Trying to make guidelines anticipate the future is a serious
problem and can only result in vague guidelines. Since no one can
predict what the future will hold, the guidelines should address today's
technologies and be updated as the future unfolds.

2. The Conformance section needs to be totally reconsidered. The
conformance levels are difficult to interpret, will discourage
compliance, and will give web developers a false sense that they have
mastered them when they have not.

3. Although individual guidelines are more testable in terms of true or
false statements, the ability to draw those conclusions has become more
difficult. Heuristic evaluation has been made significantly more
difficult than before.

Writing:

We also consider the style and language of the WCAG 2.0 central document
to be difficult to understand and assimilate by the target audience.
Rather than serving diverse audiences, few people will be able to
understand the guidelines.

The conformance requirements and glossary are particularly unclear. The
conformance section is difficult to read, and the language is confusing
due to the use of jargon. We would highly recommend rewriting this
section at a lower reading level in addition to reconsidering the
principles.

Organization:

We would recommend placing the majority of the Conformance section after
the guidelines, not before, so that people actually reach the guidelines
without getting bogged down, and limiting the information that precedes
the guidelines to a brief description of the conformance levels.

The design deliverables are not easy to use. Trying to cover all
technologies at once requires so much explanation and so many examples
that the guidelines have expanded to three documents of over 650 printed
pages. The material is highly repetitive, as well as difficult to
navigate. We recommend a restructuring of the accompanying documents by
technology, or by target audience.

For a more detailed analysis, please refer to an article in the STC's
technical journal by members of the AccessAbility SIG: "Communication
Challenges in the W3C's Web Content Accessibility Guidelines", Catherine
M. Brys and Wim Vanderbauwhede, Technical Communication, February 2006
(Volume 53, Number 1), pp. 60-78 (19). [1]

CONCLUSION

We strongly recommend that the WCAG Working Group re-consider the
concepts, the writing, and the organization of WCAG 2.0 before making
the entire set of documents a W3C Recommendation. We feel that it is
impossible to assess or approve the guidelines in the main document
without the supporting documents. We think that the WCAG 2.0 lack
practicality and that the writing of the supporting documents needs to
be reconsidered.

We raise these issues and offer our assistance because we believe
that--if the final draft of the WCAG 2.0 becomes a W3C recommendation as
it stands--people with disabilities will lose out. Confusion and
misinterpretation will lead to less accessible web sites. Complicated
and hard-to-use guidelines will alienate web developers and prevent them
from trying to achieve web accessibility.

We believe that the AccessAbility SIG is well-placed to assist with
revisions to the WCAG 2.0 and its accompanying documents. The
accessibility of web content for people with disabilities worldwide is
at stake.

Best regards,

Karen Mardahl, Lisa Pappas, Mike Murray, Dan Voss, Fabien Vais
Incoming and Outgoing Co-Managers
on behalf of the AccessAbility SIG of STC
http://www.stcsig.org/sn

[1] For reference, a partially accessible PDF of the Technical
Communication article is available at
http://www.stcsig.org/sn/PDF/WCAG2.0_Communication_Challenges_TC_Feb_2006.pdf
(1593 kB). Since we only have access to the published article and not
the source material, we tagged the document so that the text is
substantially available. However, many of the links and some of the
other details could not be made accessible in time for the Working Group
submission deadline. (This merely illustrates a general problem in the
electronic publishing world--many major journals provide their articles
as non-accessible PDFs, often even scanned copies of printed versions,
which are totally inaccessible and even hard to read when printed.)
Although this article discusses an earlier draft of the WCAG 2.0, most
of the principles still apply.
Thank you for your careful comments.

Here are some of the things we have done to address your concerns.

Easier language to understand
- Wrote simpler guidelines
- Removed as many technical terms (jargon) as possible replacing them with plainer language or, where possible, their definitions
- Eliminated several new or unfamiliar terms. (authored unit, etc.)
- Removed the term Baseline and replaced it with “web technologies that are accessibility supported� and then defined what it means to be accessibility supported.
- Removed the nesting of definitions where we could (i.e. definitions that pointed to other definitions)
- Tried to word things in manners that are more understandable to different levels of Web expertise
- Added short names/handles on each success criterion to make them easier to find and compare etc.
- Simplified the conformance

Shortening the document overall
- Shortened the introduction
- Moved much of the discussion out of the guidelines and put it in the Understanding WCAG 2.0 document
- Shortened the conformance section and moved it after the guidelines
- Moved mapping from WCAG 1 to a separate support document (so it can be updated more easily)

Creating a Quick Practitioner-oriented Summary / Checklist-like document
- Created a Quick Reference document that has just the Guidelines, success criteria and the techniques for meeting the success criteria.
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LC-1234 Kiyochika Nakamura <nakamura-kiyochika@mitsue.co.jp> on behalf of Mitsue-Links Co., Ltd. (archived comment)
Comment: This success criterion should be Level 1 because if it isn't satisfied, information could not be conveyed, at least for screen reader users. In the conformance section, a minimum level of accessibility is defined as a level 1 success criteria. Without this criterion, some important information might be conveyed to some users. So, I believe it is essential to achieve a minimum level of accessibility.

Proposed Change:

Move this success criterion to level 1.
Success criterion 1.3.4 has been combined with success criterion 1.3.1 at level A. SC 1.3.1 now reads:

Information and relationships conveyed through presentation can be programmatically determined or are available in text, and notification of changes to these is available to user agents, including assistive technologies.
yes
LC-1235 Kiyochika Nakamura <nakamura-kiyochika@mitsue.co.jp> on behalf of Mitsue-Links Co., Ltd. (archived comment)
Comment: Is there any scientific or other basis for a luminosity contrast ratio method? Also, is there any reason to choose 5:1 and 10:1? I understand that a reference value is needed for these criteria because it should be testable, but if there is no basis, how can we rely on it?

Proposed Change:

Add a link to the document which explains why 5:1 and 10:1 LCR ratio are sufficient if there is such a document. Otherwise, explain why the WG has decided to choose 5:1 and 10:1.
The 5:1 contrast ratio provides a minimum contrast of around 3:1 for the major types of color blindness. A contrast ratio of 3:1 is the minimum level recommended by ANSI/HFS 100-1988. 10:1 provides approximately 7:1 contrast ratio for individuals with color blindness, which is the recommended contrast level in ANSI/HFS 100-1988.

We have added the following to the Intent sections of SC 1.4.1 and 1.4.4:

The 5:1 contrast ratio provides a minimum contrast of around 3:1 for the major types of color blindness. A contrast ratio of 3:1 is the minimum level recommended by [ISO-9241-3] and [ANSI-HFES-100-1988].

Calculations in ISO 9241-3 and ANSI/HFS 100-1988 are for body text. A relaxed contrast ratio is provided for text that is much larger (twice as tall and with three time the thickness of lines in the character).

Notes on formula

Conversion from nonlinear to linear RGB values is based on IEC/4WD 61966-2-1 [IEC-4WD] and on "A Standard Default Color Space for the Internet - sRGB" [sRGB].

The formula (L1/L2) for contrast is based on ISO 9241-3 and ANSI/HFS 100-1988 standards.

The ANSI/HFS 100-1988 standard calls for the contribution from ambient light to be included in the calculation of L1 and L2. The .05 value used is based on Typical Viewing Flare from IEC/4WD 61966-2-1 and the sRGB paper by M. Stokes et al.

This success criterion and its definitions uses the terms contrast ratio and relative luminance rather than luminance to reflect the fact that Web content does not emit light itself. The contrast ratio gives a measure of the relative luminance that would result when displayed. (Because it is a ratio, it is dimensionless.)

Note: Refer to related resources for a list of tools that utilize the contrast ratio to analyze the contrast of Web content.
yes
LC-1236 Kiyochika Nakamura <nakamura-kiyochika@mitsue.co.jp> on behalf of Mitsue-Links Co., Ltd. (archived comment)
Comment: Is there any basis for saying that a 20 decibel difference is good enough? How do I explain to our customers when they ask why it requires a 20 decibel difference? I think "just because WCAG 2.0 states" is not a sufficient answer.

Proposed Change:

Add a note or any kind of explanation which states the reason why a 20 decibel difference has been chosen.


Response: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2007Jun/0064.html
There are a number of studies that this is based on. One is the Report done for the Access Board in 1999. In that study, 75% of the subjects needed a S/N of 18 dB to be minimally acceptable. http://www.hearingresearch.org/Pubs/Access_Bd_Final_Report.pdf

The most recent is Interference in Hearing Aids from Digital Wireless
Telephones by Levitt, Kozma-Spytek, and Harkins in Seminars in Hearing/Volume 26, Number 2, 2005. It found that a signal to noise ratio of 32 to 28 db was needed for 90% to find phones highly usable, 24 to 20 db for 90% to for minor limitation on use and 15 to 12 db for Major Limitation of use.
yes
LC-1237 Kiyochika Nakamura <nakamura-kiyochika@mitsue.co.jp> on behalf of Mitsue-Links Co., Ltd. (archived comment)
Comment: This success criterion should be Level 1 because, for example, if it isn't satisfied and background audio interferes screen readers, information could not be conveyed. Also, even if a mechanism to turn off background audio is provided, some users could not find the mechanism because of its background audio, so it would be better that the success criterion itself was reconsidered.

Proposed Change:

Move this success criterion to level 1. And possibly restates the criterion such that "do not play background audio without user request.
Because automatic audio can interfere with assistive technology, SC 1.4.1 (formerly 1.4.2) has been moved to level A. yes
LC-1238 Kiyochika Nakamura <nakamura-kiyochika@mitsue.co.jp> on behalf of Mitsue-Links Co., Ltd. (archived comment)
Comment: Why this criterion allows the time-out which is not essential for its function? If the first three list items of the criteria are allowed, some users might not be able to read through the content. For example, when the function to deactivate the time-out is provided but it is placed on the end of the page, then some users cannot reach the function before the time-out.

Proposed Change:

Omit the first three list items from this criterion.
Providing a mechanism to update a time-out that the user may not encounter before the time-out expires would not meet the requirements of this SC. We have revised SC 2.2.1 to clarify this:

2.2.1 Timing: For each time limit that is set by the content , at least one of the following is true:
* Deactivate: the user is allowed to deactivate the time limit before encountering it; or
* Adjust: the user is allowed to adjust the time limit before encountering it over a wide range that is at least ten times the length of the default setting; or
* Extend: the user is warned before time expires and given at least 20 seconds to extend the time limit with a simple action (for example, "hit any key"), and the user is allowed to extend the time limit at least ten times; or
* Real-time Exception: the time limit is a required part of a real-time event (for example, an auction), and no alternative to the time limit is possible; or
* Essential Exception: the time limit is part of an activity where timing is essential (for example, competitive gaming or time-based testing) and time limits can not be extended further without invalidating the activity.
yes
LC-652 Lars Ballieu Christensen <lbc@sensus.dk> on behalf of Sensus ApS - European Accessibility Consultants (archived comment)
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Comment Type: GE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

As a practitioner with 10 years experince in advising site owners and developers on how to develop web sites that are accessible to the widest range of users using the widest range of technilogies, I find the following the following issues in WCAG2 highly problematic:

The introduction of a technology baseline; the concept of a baseline is in my opinion in itself in direct conflict with the idea of creating inclusive solutions; I fear that the baseline will be used widely to formally pass accessbility tests by omitting all potentially tricky technologies from the baseline. In my opinion, the baseline is a mistake that should be removed from the document. If the aim is to promote an inclusive envisonment, the whole notion of accepting lower standards in, say, private intranets is absurd as it will preent people with special needs to work in these environments.

The document is still heavily biased towards the visually impaired. By and large, other groups of people with special needs are in practice omitted from the substance of the guidelines. These include, but are not limited to, the deaf, dyslexic, people with reading difficulties, and the cognitively disabled. The standard remedy of demanding that all non-textual information also be represented as textual information is simply not enough.

The idea of granting triple-A conformance status to a web site if it passes half (randomly selected?) the level 3 success criteria does not make sense. It suggests either that the level 3 success criteria are irrelevant to the general accessibilily or that it is more important to be able to pass the test than to comply with the level 3 success criteria.

Proposed Change:

1. Omit the concept of a baseline from the document.

2. Accommodate other - and in many cases much larger - user groups than merely the visually disabled. Complement the text alternative requirement with requirements for other alternatives including simplified text and sign language.

3. Decide whether and which of the level 3 success criteria are important. Leave out the unimportant and make the rest mandatory for gaining triple-A conformance status.
1. The notion of baseline (now referred to as "accessibility-supported Web technologies") is not an attempt to weaken the guidelines or create less inclusive environments. It is a recognition that the level of support in browsers and assistive technology is constantly changing, and that any attempt to define "accessible technologies" based on the support available at the current time will deprive people with disabilities from the benefits of on-going innovation on the internet. For instance, we want all users to benefit from the use of CSS. At the time that WCAG1 was published, user agent support was not sufficient to include CSS in acceptable technologies.

2. We believe the guidelines address a wide range of physical disabilities, including deafness, hearing impairments, mobility impairment, and seizure disorders. The reliance on text is because it is the format that lends itself best to rendering in a wide variety of modalities. Text can be converted to speech, rendered on braille displays, or displayed visually. It may facilitate translation of text into different language levels at some point. This does not mean that providing a text representation solves all accessibility problems.

We have added language to the Introduction, the Conformance section, and the Quick Reference to highlight the fact that WCAG 2 only addresses some of the needs of people with cognitive, learning, and language disabilities, and to call out the need for more research in this area. WAI is exploring ways in which to support and encourage work in this important area.

We have added some best practices for cognitive, learning, and language disabilities as advisory techniques, and we have proposed 3 new success criteria in this area.

3. The definition of triple-A conformance has been changed to require all level AAA success criteria.
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LC-636 Lisa Seeman 1 <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of Invited expert at W3C, UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0137.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/att-0137/wcagform_ch_1html.html

Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

the information for the user is important not the change in presentation...

Proposed Change:

Information that is conveyed by variations in presentation of text is also conveyed in text, or the informations can be programmatically determined.
SC 1.3.1 and 1.3.4 have been combined to read "Information and relationships conveyed through presentation can be programmatically determined or are available in text, and notification of changes to these is available to user agents, including assistive technologies." This wording ensures that it is the meaning conveyed by the presentation that must be programmatically determined, and allows the author to indicate the meaning in text if it is not feasible to do so programmatically. The How to Meet document describes this in some detail. tocheck
LC-637 Lisa Seeman 1 <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of Invited expert at W3C, UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0137.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/att-0137/wcagform_ch_1html.html

Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

two questions we need to know for interface components
1, who am I ? This is a question of element integrity
a ball bouncing across the screen is the same ball and not changes of color of pixels across a screen
2, what am I? what is my function (role)

But what I am not sure is mentioned is make sure each element exists in the first place - and is not color across a screen. or letters in no logical order but that are absolutely positioned. A ball is a ball, a word is a word. Things need to know who they are and to what they belong.

Proposed Change:

Add at level one
All objects and components that can be visual perceived can be programmatically identified thought its life cycle.
We have revised SC 1.3.1 ("Information and relationships conveyed through presentation can be programmatically determined or are available in text, and notification of changes to these is available to user agents, including assistive technologies.") and SC 4.1.2 ("For all user interface components, the name and role can be programmatically determined, states, properties, and values that can be set by the user can be programmatically determined and programmatically set, and notification of changes to these items is available to user agents, including assistive technologies.") so that this is now required.

If objects and components can be visually perceived, SC 1.3.1 requires that they be programmatically determined or described by text. Changes to the object also need to be notified.
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LC-638 Lisa Seeman 1 <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of Invited expert at W3C, UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0137.html
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Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Maybe the user needs to know what the baseline is. Then if they really need this content they can find a user agent that can supply it.

Proposed Change:

Add at level one
The user can access what technologies are included in the baseline, even without using baseline technologies
We are no longer using the term baseline to describe this concept. In order to access a description of the technologies relied upon by a given site, the user would need to access some Web content, which in turn would need to rely on a Web technology of some sort. We cannot see a way out of this dilemma.

We have added the following optional component of a conformance claim to make it easier to determine what technologies are relied upon:

The list of specific technologies that are relied upon, in machine-readable metadata.
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LC-640 Lisa Seeman 1 <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of Invited expert at W3C, UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0137.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/att-0137/wcagform_ch_1html.html

Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

this needs to be at level one because many sites are completely inoperable because of failure

Proposed Change:

move to level 1
Because assistive technology may not be able to preserve shape, size, visual location, or orientation of components when it transforms content to an alternate presentation, this success criterion has been moved to level A. tocheck
LC-643 Lisa Seeman 1 <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of Invited expert at W3C, UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0137.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/att-0137/wcagform_ch_1html.html

Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

quote " At Levels 1 and 2, WCAG conformance is only required for technologies inside the baseline. Technologies outside the baseline need not conform," ah.. and then it is clarified

I do no think that is what you mean but people will misquote that to think that if they set a baseline of html, then there site is conforment because everything is in flash which is outside baseline.

Proposed Change:

change 4.2 wording

Content implemented using technologies outside of the chosen baseline satisfies all Level 1 and Level 2 requirements supported by the technologies even when accessible alternatives using technologies inside the baseline are provided.
We have switched from using "baseline" to using "accessibility supported Web technology".

In order to conform to WCAG, any content in a non-accessibility-supported Web technology must also be available in an accessibility-supported Web technology. This is explained in the Conformance section "Conformance requirements", conformance requirement 5.

We are worried that explicitly saying "even when accessible alternatives inside the baseline are provided" may lead readers to think that there are some situations where there won't already be accessible alternatives. We think this is explained more clearly in the How To Meet document for this success criterion.
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LC-625 Lisa Seeman 2 <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of Invited expert at W3C, UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0137.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/att-0137/wcagform_ch2_.html

Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Web units have titles, what is the advantage if the titles are not descriptive?

Proposed Change:

change to Web units have descriptive titles
We have changed SC 2.4.3 to "Web pages have descriptive titles" and have also reflected this change in success criterion 2.4.5 and the support documents for both success criteria. tocheck
LC-626 Lisa Seeman 2 <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of Invited expert at W3C, UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0137.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/att-0137/wcagform_ch2_.html

Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

surely this only helps if titles are unique -any objection to unique should not apply at level 3

Proposed Change:

change to Web units have descriptive and unique titles
We have changed SC 2.4.3 to "Web pages have descriptive titles" and have also reflected this change in success criterion 2.4.5 and the support documents for both success criteria.

The success criterion does not require that titles be unique because the working group is concerned that requiring uniqueness will lead to titles that are not as descriptive and usable. It may be very difficult to create titles that are descriptive, unique, and reasonably short. For example, a Web page that generates titles dynamically based on its content might need to include part of the dynamic content in the title to ensure that it was unique. We are also concerned that authors may make titles unique mechanically, such as by including a unique number in the title that is unrelated to the content. For these reasons, although we encourage unique titles in the techniques for this success criterion, we are not including uniqueness in the success criterion itself.
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LC-627 Lisa Seeman 2 <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of Invited expert at W3C, UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0137.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/att-0137/wcagform_ch2_.html

Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

sections of content need titles to be able to navigate through a page.
This is particularly true of many AJAX sites that have multiple regions. The regions of a page can change at different rates due to either user actions or asyncrones updates. The user may need to toggle between form controls to results, and updates.

Even in simpler content knowing that a table has a navigation function is hugely usefully even when accessibility is not completely broken.

Proposed Change:

Add level one success criteria
Blocks of content that become updated should be uniquely titled or it's role can be programaticaly determined

When multiple blocks of content in a web unit have the same role they should be uniquely titles

Blocks of content that perform a common task should be titles or its role can be programaticaly determined

success criteria 2.4.1 is no longer needed
The WCAG WG did not create a success criterion specific to live regions. However SC 4.1.2 was modified to require the general case that roles, states, properties, and values be programmatically determined.

In addition, the ability to navigate easily to such regions is an important point and related to other needs as well. Therefore, we created a new Level AAA success criterion in GL 2.4 "2.4.9 Section Headings: Where content is organized into sections, the sections are indicated with headings."

Various ways of conforming to this success criterion would exist, including the suggestion to provide headers for live regions as well as any other meaningful section of content. The technique on 'live regions' is advisory at this time because the technology has not been released yet.
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LC-628 Lisa Seeman 2 <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of Invited expert at W3C, UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0137.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/att-0137/wcagform_ch2_.html

Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

2.4.6 When a Web unit or authored component is navigated sequentially, components receive focus in an order that follows relationships and sequences in the content. [How to meet 2.4.6]

this should be level 1 as it often completely brakes the user interface

Proposed Change:

move SC 2.4.6 to level 1
Because assistive technology cannot provide access to rerendered content if this success criterion is not satisfied, it has been moved to level A. tocheck
LC-630 Lisa Seeman 2 <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of Invited expert at W3C, UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0137.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/att-0137/wcagform_ch2_.html

Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

2.5.2 If an input error is detected and suggestions for correction are known and can be provided without jeopardizing the security or purpose of the content, the suggestions are provided to the user.

With things like role attribute you can assign a functional role to an element, and other important information such as allowable range. That means that the assistive technology can themselves perform validation.
Makes it all a user agent thing...

Proposed Change:

2.5.2 If an input error is detected and suggestions for correction are known and can be provided without jeopardizing the security or purpose of the content, the suggestions are provided to the user or can be progmaticly determined
The current success criterion does not prevent use of Dynamic Web Content Accessibility, XForms or other technologies to provide information that will allow user agents and assistive technologies to provide suggestions for error correction. We do not feel we need to specifically add "programmatically determined" to the success criterion, but such technology-specific techniques could be added as sufficient as user-agent support for them improves. If role and validation information is programmatically provided in the markup for a technology and testing demonstrates that suggestions for error correction are provided to the user via the user agent or assistive technology, this success criterion has been satisfied. The technology-specific techniques should be provided for such technologies. We have provided some advisory techniques for the use of WAI-ARIA and will promote them and will promote them as they qualify as accessibility supported in some environments. tocheck
LC-632 Lisa Seeman 2 <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of Invited expert at W3C, UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0137.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/att-0137/wcagform_ch2_.html

Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

With things like role attribute and concept mapping with RDF you can assign a functional role to an element, That means that the assistive technology can themselves provide the correct help that is tailored to the user. the user experience is better because the help is tailored to their scenario

Proposed Change:

2.5.4 Context-sensitive help is available for text input or the role of each control can be progmaticly determined
The current success criterion does not prevent use of Accessible Rich Internet Application Specifications or other technologies to add information that will allow user agents or assistive technologies to provide context-sensitive help. We do not feel we need to specifically add "programmatically determined" to the success criterion in order to support this additional data, but we have added a placeholder for such technology-specific techniques. If additional information is programmatically provided in the markup and testing demonstrates that context sensitive help is provided to the user via the user agent or assistive technology, this success criterion has been satisfied. The technology-specific techniques should be provided for such technologies. We have provided some advisory techniques for the use of WAI-ARIA and will promote them as they qualify as accessibility supported in some environments. tocheck
LC-633 Lisa Seeman 2 <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of Invited expert at W3C, UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0137.html
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Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

Most of this (at least at the higher levels) helps blind folks access error information. That is good. Clearly what is missing hear is a game plan for helping people with a learning disability , who have trouble filling in forms.

Forms are real nightmears for a lot of us. In fact I often do not deposit checks and perform other tasks because of the barrier that form filling presents.

Things that make it harder include short labels that do not explain what they are, coping numbers, Non expandable, small fonts. Too much information on one page. Information not being well grouped such as user information, payment information. Then with the short labels I get confused what is what. Server time outs. Asking a lot of information to make forms simpler to process but make form filling much harder and more complex.

For example on this form on line it is much simpler (but PF preferred this table .. oh well) .... the options could be in a combo box as filled out meaningfully text...

Proposed Change:

Perform user testing with different groups of people with learning disabilities and cognitive limitations - including age related.

Identify what technques help

Add them
We have added language to the Introduction, the Conformance section, and the Quick Reference to highlight the fact that WCAG 2 only addresses some of the needs of people with cognitive, learning, and language disabilities, and to call out the need for more research in this area. WAI is exploring ways in which to support and encourage work in this important area.

We have added some best practices for cognitive, learning, and language disabilities as advisory techniques, and we have proposed 3 new success criteria in this area.
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LC-606 Lisa Seeman 3 <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of Invited expert at W3C, UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0137.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/att-0137/wcagform3ch.html

Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

Some widgets - such as a tree, the tab order will and should change when a component is expanded. It make no sense to say that that is not OK unless it is not predicable. As AT becomes used to these widgets, instruction will not be required

Proposed Change:

Changing the setting of any form control or field does not automatically cause a change of context (beyond moving to the next field in tab order or behavior for a progamaticly determinable widget type.), unless the authored unit contains instructions before the control that describe the behavior.
We agree that what you cite should be allowed; it is already allowed under the current wording. Expanding the tree is a change of content, but not a change of context. The definition of "change of context" includes the note: "A change of content is not always a change of context. Small changes in content, such as an expanding outline or dynamic menu, do not change the context."

Note that the clause "(beyond moving to the next field in tab order)" has been removed as unnecessary.
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LC-608 Lisa Seeman 3 <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of Invited expert at W3C, UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0137.html
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Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

I am concerned that the requirement for real time synrcrization put a lot of extra work on authors who would like to provide short animations or clips that help people with learning disabilities fulfill a task. On the whole, a lot of multi media, especially in education, is good for many learning disabilities, and these requirements may act as a step backwards for learning disabilities.

Proposed Change:

Make an exception in 1.2 for any content provides extra help visual for tasks and information that has been described in text else wear.
We have added an exception to SC 1.2.1 so that captions are not needed when the multimedia is presenting information that is already available as text:

1.2.1 Captions: Captions are provided for prerecorded multimedia except for multimedia alternatives to text that are clearly labeled as such.

We have also updated the intent section for this criterion to reflect this change.
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LC-612 Lisa Seeman 3 <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of Invited expert at W3C, UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0137.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/att-0137/wcagform3ch.html

Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

Adaptive interfaces are a good thing. sometimes change is because we know more about what the user likes

Proposed Change:

change the wording
...occur in the same relative order each time they are repeated, unless a change is initiated by the user or may benifit the user
This success criterion applies to the logical order and default presentation of the content. This success criterion does not prohibit choices in adaptive interfaces; enabling adaptive interfaces and alternate presentations is a goal of WCAG2. However, the user still needs to initiate the change in order, even if the change is initiated by global actions such as selecting preferences in a user agent or using a user agent with adaptive behavior. We have added this explanation to the Intent Section of the How To Meet document. tocheck
LC-614 Lisa Seeman 3 <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of Invited expert at W3C, UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0137.html
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Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

Level 3 success criteria:
1. Achieve additional accessibility enhancements.
2. Can not necessarily be applied to all Web content.

I object to definition. Because many criteria are level 3 only because they are considered too hard to do on all web content does not mean that level 1 and two achieve minimal and enhanced accessibility.
Level 3 is also minimal accessibility

Proposed Change:

change of wording
Level 3 success criteria:

1. Achieve minimal accessibility, or, if the Success criteria can be applied to all Web content, achieves additional accessibility enhancements.
2. Can not necessarily be applied to all Web content.
We have completely rewritten this section of the guidelines (see http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#overview-levels ):

The word "levels" does not mean that some success criteria are more important than others. Each success criterion in WCAG 2.0 is essential to some users, and the levels build upon each other. However, even content that conforms at AAA (triple-A) may not be fully accessible to every person with a disability.

*In general, Level A success criteria achieve accessibility by supporting assistive technology while putting the fewest possible limits on presentation. Thus people with a wide range of disabilities using a wide range of assistive technologies, from voice input and eye-tracking devices to screen readers and screen magnifiers, are able to access content in different ways. In other words, Level A success criteria support the ability of both mainstream and specialized user agents to adapt content to formats that meet their users' needs.

*The success criteria in Level AA provide additional support for assistive technology. At the same time, they also support direct access to content by the many people who use conventional user agents without assistive technology. In general, Level AA success criteria place more limits on visual presentation and other aspects of content than the success criteria in Level A.

*Level AAA success criteria increase both direct access and access through assistive technology. They place tighter limits on both presentation and content.
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LC-616 Lisa Seeman 3 <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of Invited expert at W3C, UB access (archived comment)
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Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

1. Identifying changes in natural languages USING a technology-specific technique listed below AND Identifying text direction of passages and phrases USING a technology-specific technique listed below (for a technology in your baseline)

The example is an odd one because always, when changing direction, you are changing characters and there for it is, by definition programticly determined

More over bILI languages change direction all the times whenever numbers are used. Are you really expecting each number to be in it’s own span? Why not follow the standard BILI algorithms
Based on comments from the Internationalization Working Group, we have determined that text direction is not an accessibility issue unless it affects the meaningful sequence of text. SC 3.1.2 no longer requires that the direction of text be identified. tocheck
LC-617 Lisa Seeman 4 <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of Invited expert at W3C, UB access (archived comment)
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Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

from the appendix...
"If style sheets are in your baseline, WCAG 1.0 checkpoint 6.1 (that the word order of text needs to make sense without css) is not required;"

I do not understand this example, In fact it seems to highlight the problem of baseline - that an accessibility problem will persist even if a technology is supported by Assistive technology. For example An Assistive technology may be able to work with Aural CSS (if it was not depreciated) display visible, phuedo class etc, and still not be able to work out what the reading order is just based of pixel positioning of test in columns (without more information).

surely text out of order will not be understandable by assistive technologies even when CSS is supported?

7, Overall people are struggling understanding the baseline concept. One person, hugely talented and experienced in accessibility thought that if all pages used CSS then 6.1 does not matter any more

Proposed Change:

How can we define baseline so that 6.1 is supported in this baseline?
The working group agrees that the problem you cite should not be allowed. However, that problem is already not allowed with the current guidelines. Even if style sheets are in the baseline, the content must satisfy SC 1.3.3. The Failure "Failure of SC 1.3.3 due to changing the meaning of content by positioning information with CSS." would explicitly prohibit this sort of use of CSS. tocheck
LC-618 Lisa Seeman 4 <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of Invited expert at W3C, UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0137.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/att-0137/wcagform4ch.html

Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

Provide mechanisms to help users find content, orient themselves within it, and navigate through it

Success criteria does not include what is require to make AJAX regions accessible

Proposed Change:

require blocks are identifiable
The success criterion has been updated to require that roles, states, properties, and values be programmatically determined. It now reads: "For all user interface components, the name and role can be programmatically determined, states, properties, and values that can be set by the user can be programmatically determined and programmatically set, and notification of changes to these items is available to user agents, including assistive technologies." tocheck
LC-619 Lisa Seeman 4 <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of Invited expert at W3C, UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0137.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/att-0137/wcagform4ch.html

Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

mechanism is available for ....

A mechanism is only useful if: it is usable by AT or b, it is usable by the user

Proposed Change:

change definition of mechanism to process or technique for achieving a result that is easy (does not require a change of context, and uses simple language) for the user to use can be programmatically determined for AT for people with learning disabilities
To clarify that the user must be able to access the mechanism, we have added the following note to the definition:

Note: the mechanism must meet all success criteria for the conformance level claimed
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LC-621 Lisa Seeman 4 <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of Invited expert at W3C, UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0137.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/att-0137/wcagform4ch.html

Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

Quote: Because not all level 3 success criteria can be used with all types of content, Triple-A conformance only requires conformance to a portion of level 3 success criteria

This means that no one will bother with level three because you can claim Triple-A conformance by just doing one level 3 SC

Proposed Change:

Remove this paragraph
We have changed the definition of Level AAA conformance so that all Level AAA Success Criteria that apply to the content types used must be satisfied. tocheck
LC-1036 Lisa Seeman 5 <lisa@ubaccess.com> (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006Jun/0118.html

WCAG 2.0 claims to define and address the requirements for making Web content accessible to those with learning difficulties, cognitive limitations and others. We object to that claim.

Specifically, the success criteria requirements for making content understandable largly ignore the needs of people with learning difficulties and cognitive limitations. Please note that there are guidelines published by other groups that will make content much more accessible to these users. However, with the WCAG claim to address learning difficulties and cognitive limitations, people will not know that they need to look further.

We would like to see continued work in this field and a statement in the WCAG 2.0 abstract and introduction modifying the claim that they currently address accessibility for learning disabilities. Specifically, we recommend removing learning difficulties and cognitive limitations from the list of supported disabilities. A sentence may be added later in the abstract that "these guidelines may also provide some benefits for people with learning difficulties and cognitive limitations". We would then like to see a statement of intent such as: "the working group intends to build additional success criteria to address accessibility for learning disabilities and cognitive limitations."


All the best,

Lisa Seeman, www.ubaccess.com
Jonathan Chetwynd, Accessible Solutions
Andy Heath, Axelrod Research and Computing
Gez Lemon, www.juicystudio.com
Roberto Scano
Gian Sampson-Wild
Dr. Andy Judson
Yvette Hoitink
Marc Walraven
Fred Heddell MBE, Inclusion International
Mrs. Zoe Apostolopoulou e-ISOTIS
Andrew Arch Vision Australia
Sofia Celic Vision Australia
Keith Smith, BILD (British Institute of Learning Disabilities)
Peter Rainger
Erlend Øverby
William Loughborough
Geert Freyhoff Inclusion Europe
Better Days advocacy group
Mencap Accessibility Unit
The Rix Centre (for Innovation and Learning disability)
Antonia Hyde, United Response
Diane Lightfoot, United Response
Jo Kidd, The Skillnet Group
Dan Edney The Skillnet Group
United Response (UR)
Liddy Nevile, La Trobe University
Andy Minnion, The Rix Centre
Simon Evans, The Rix Centre
Jim Byrne, GAWDS
Mel Pedley
Pamela E Berman
Caroline Lambie, Mencap Web Communications Manager.
Andrew Holman, Inspired Services
Robert Hubbert, Ubisan
John Nissen, Cloudworld Ltd
Paul Williams
Roger Hudson
Janine Ness
Zoe Porter, Valuing People
Sue Carmichael, Valuing People
Geoff Stead
David Sloan, Digital Media Access Group
Simon Cramp
Ann Fergusson
Dr. Robin Boast
Matthew Smith
Neel Shearer, CALL (Communication Aids for Language and Learning) Centre
Paul Brown, The Scottish Disability Team
Jim Ley
Sally Cooper
TechDis
Katarina Mühlenbock, Dart
Emmanuelle Gutiérrez y Restrepo, Sidar
Mats Lundälv Dart
Sari Follansbee
Sarah Riley
Sally Paveley, Advisory Unit
We have added language to the Introduction, the Conformance section, and the Quick Reference to highlight the fact that WCAG 2.0 only addresses some of the needs of people with cognitive, learning, and language disabilities, and to call out the need for more research in this area. WAI is exploring ways in which to support and encourage work in this important area.

See WCAG 2.0:
http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#abstract
http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#intro
http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#overview-levels

Quick Reference:
http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/quickref/20070517/#intro

We have added some best practices for cognitive, learning, and language disabilities as advisory techniques, and this draft contains three new success criteria in this area.

New success criteria:

SC 2.4.9 Where content is organized into sections, the sections are indicated with headings.

SC 3.3.4 Labels or instructions are provided when content requires user input

SC 3.3.6 For forms that require the user to submit information, at least one of the following is true:

1. Reversible: Transactions are reversible.
2. Checked: Submitted data is checked for input errors before going on to the next step in the process.
3. Confirmed: A mechanism is available for reviewing, confirming, and correcting information before finalizing the transaction.

Advisory techniques:
http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20-20070517/#N1255F
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LC-1524 Loretta Guarino Reid <lguarino@adobe.com> on behalf of Adobe Systems (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: substantive
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

One of the clauses of 1.1.1 addresses General non-text content:
General Non-text Content: If non-text content presents information or responds to user input, then text alternatives serve the same purpose and present the same information as the non-text content. If text alternatives cannot serve the same purpose, then text alternatives at least identify the purpose of the non-text content.

It is hard to imagine how a text alternative can ever serve the same purpose as content that responds to user input, which makes this very confusing. It seems that the only way to satisfy this for content that responds to user input is to provide a text alternative that identifies the purpose of the content, that is, a label. However, labels are already required for user interface components in SC 4.1.2.

Proposed Change:

1. Define non-text content so that it is clear that content that responds to user input is not covered by this SC.
2. With this change, clarify the statement of SC 1.1.1 and the How to Meet document.
We have modified SC 1.1.1 to address this issue. See http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#text-equiv-all . yes
LC-662 Lynn Alford <imla@jcu.edu.au> on behalf of James Cook University (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: QU
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Given that the conformance document states \"The success criteria for each guideline are organized into three (3) levels.
Level 1 success criteria: Achieve a minimum level of accessibility.
Level 2 success criteria: Achieve an enhanced level of accessibility.
Level 3 success criteria: Achieve additional accessibility enhancements\"

Then is the following statement true as well? \"This method of grouping success criteria differs in important ways from the approach taken in WCAG 1.0. Each checkpoint in WCAG 1.0 was assigned a \"priority\" according to its impact on accessibility. Thus, Priority 3 checkpoints appeared to be less important than Priority 1 checkpoints. The WCAG Working Group believes that all success criteria of WCAG 2.0 are essential for some people. Thus, the system of checkpoints and priorities used in WCAG 1.0 has been replaced by success criteria under Levels 1, 2, and 3 as described above.\"

The fact that level 1 is described as \'minimum level of accessibility\', level 2 as \'enhanced level of accessibility\' and level 3 as \'additional\' makes the levels feel very much the same as priorities in WCAG 1. Is this method of grouping truly different?

Proposed Change:
The description of conformance levels in WCAG 2 (see http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#overview-levels ) has been rewritten to clarify the differences:

The word "levels" does not mean that some success criteria are more important than others. Each success criterion in WCAG 2.0 is essential to some users, and the levels build upon each other. However, even content that conforms at AAA (triple-A) may not be fully accessible to every person with a disability.

*In general, Level A success criteria achieve accessibility by supporting assistive technology while putting the fewest possible limits on presentation. Thus people with a wide range of disabilities using a wide range of assistive technologies, from voice input and eye-tracking devices to screen readers and screen magnifiers, are able to access content in different ways. In other words, Level A success criteria support the ability of both mainstream and specialized user agents to adapt content to formats that meet their users' needs.

*The success criteria in Level AA provide additional support for assistive technology. At the same time, they also support direct access to content by the many people who use conventional user agents without assistive technology. In general, Level AA success criteria place more limits on visual presentation and other aspects of content than the success criteria in Level A.

*Level AAA success criteria increase both direct access and access through assistive technology. They place tighter limits on both presentation and content.
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LC-941 M.F. Laughton <adio@crc.ca> on behalf of Government of Canada (archived comment)
Principle 1: Content must be perceivable.
There is nothing in the current edition of WCAG to ensure Color requirements / User Choices of color/presentation/font needs are respected or requirements in the new WCAG. A low vision user doesn't want a text equivalent, they want something in a presentation they can read. Ie: 18 point font or black background and white text.

Proposed Change:

There should be explicit guidance relating to color/presentation/font usage, as at least a level 2 success criterion.
Although configuring the text size, color, and font family are primarily user agent functions addressed by the User Agent Accessibility Guidelines, we have added new success criteria to address the author's responsibility for supporting text resizing:

Level AA: Visually rendered text can be resized without assistive technology up to 200 percent and down to 50 percent without loss of content or functionality.

Level AAA: Visually rendered text can be resized without assistive technology up to 200 percent and down to 50 percent without loss of content or functionality and in a way that does not require the user to scroll horizontally.
yes
LC-942 M.F. Laughton <adio@crc.ca> on behalf of Government of Canada (archived comment)
When a Web unit or authored component is navigated sequentially, components receive focus in an order that follows relationships and sequences in the content. In our experience, failure to meet this criterion renders many "accessible" pages "unusable" in any practical sense.

Proposed Change:

Should be a level 2 criteria
Because assistive technology cannot provide access to rerendered content if this success criterion is not satisfied, it has been moved to level A. yes
LC-945 M.F. Laughton <adio@crc.ca> on behalf of Government of Canada (archived comment)
A mechanism is available for identifying specific definitions of words or phrases used in an unusual or restricted way, including idioms and jargon. We feel that indiscriminate (and unfortunately wide-spread) use of such jargon is a greater barrier to understanding and using Web content than is implied by its relegation to level 3.

Proposed Change:

Should be a level 2 criteria
SC 3.1.3 (formerly 3.1.5) is a level AAA success criterion because it cannot be applied to all web pages. Content in some fields would become extremely difficult to read if *all* specialized vocabulary had to be defined either inline or via linking, even when the terms are well known in their respective fields. Jargon is typically a barrier for people who are not in the field where the jargon is used-- e.g., the jargon of literary history may be problematic for chemical engineers but not for literary historians. Practitioners in a field are likely to provide definitions when introducing new terms or re-defining existing ones-- even when they are writing for their professional peers.

We have added information to the Intent section, encouraging authors to satisfy this success criterion even for lower levels of conformance for specialized information intended for non-specialist readers.
yes
LC-946 M.F. Laughton <adio@crc.ca> on behalf of Government of Canada (archived comment)
The document lacks any reference to dealing with "unusual user interface features or behaviours" that are likely to confuse the first-time/novice user. We feel that such should be described to the user before they are encountered.

Proposed Change:

Add a level 3 (at least) success criterion - perhaps to Guideline 3.1 - requiring that "Explain/describe/warn about the existence of unusual user interface features or behaviours before they are encountered.
We've tried to address this type of scenario in the Guidelines as "predictable" behaviour and it is covered under Guideline 3.2 "Make the placement and functionality of content predictable." We've tried to further supplement it with Guideline 2.4 "Provide mechanisms to help users find content, orient themselves within it, and navigate through it".

The success criteria need to be testable and it would be difficult to test for an "unusual interface." However we have added a sentence to the intent section of 2.4 that says:
"Unusual user interface features or behaviors may confuse people with cognitive disabilities."
yes
LC-949 M.F. Laughton <adio@crc.ca> on behalf of Government of Canada (archived comment)
Rather than attempting to explain this term, the authors provide a link to the definition in "XML Schema Part 2: Datatypes, Appendix F". The "definition" in the XML Schema is incomprehensible to the majority of us. Presumably the purpose of including a word in the glossary is to render it understandable to people who don't already understand it.

Proposed Change:

Please explain it in layman's terms and provide the link to XML Schema only as a supplemental reference.
We have completely rewritten the Conformance section. The format of this description is no longer specified. The corresponding required component is now:

4. A description of the URIs that the claim is being made for, including whether subdomains are included in the claim.

We have added examples to illustrate the use of boolean and regular expressions in a conformance statement.
yes
LC-736 Maciej Jaros <egil@wp.pl> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

This is about:
http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-SCRIPT-TECHS/#doc-write

I think the last line of the Example:
parentelem.appendChild(list);
should be:
document.menu.appendChild(list);

If I understood correctly in the Deprecated Example <p> and <h1> were
added to root element (or at least some current element):
document.write(\"<h1>Welcome to my site</h1>\");
document.write(\"<p>Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet\");
but the list was added specifically to document.menu:
document.menu.innerHTML = \"<ul><li><a href=\"foo.html\">foo</a>\";

If I misunderstood something then please add some more comment to that example.



Proposed Change:
The technique that you referenced is no longer included in the WCAG 2.0 Techniques document. It has been rewritten as Technique SCR21: Using functions of the Document Object Model (DOM) to add content to a page yes
LC-663 Martin Stehle <pewtah@snafu.de> on behalf of Federal Association of Hearing-Impaired Students and Graduates in Germany, http://www.bhsa.de/html/multilingual/en/ (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

The definition of "multimedia" is misleading. It says: "audio or video synchronized with another type of media and/or with time-based interactive components"
<http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/appendixA.html#multimediadef>
Thus anything not synchronized with something is no multimedia, e.g. video without subtitles, audio files etc. This leads to the conclusion there is no need to provide an alternative content for a media file as long it is not synchronized. Thus podcats, news on videos and live video streams will not be accessible for deaf and hard of hearing people, because the alternative version is omitted.


Proposed Change:

Change the definition in "any audio, video or animation file. It can be synchronized with another type of media and/or with time-based interactive components".
For audio only or video only files, it is Guideline 1.1 that applies rather than Guideline 1.2. Guideline 1.1 requires that all non-text content except multimedia have text alternatives. So audio only, and video only files would need text equivalents under 1.1 unless they were just for sensory experience. yes
LC-646 Matthew Magain <matt@opinios.com> on behalf of none (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: GE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

I disagree strongly with the concept of having a baseline. By NOT specifying a minimum technology set of HTML, then site owners are essentially given free range over choosing to only support the technology that they want, regardless of whether any accessible user agent for rendering that technology is in existence. This goes against the grain of the W3C\'s underlying philosophy of making Web content available to anyone. If the W3C want WCAG to be future-proofed, it should encompass existing technologies, and evolve with version 3.0 when new technologies become in use, not pre-empt them through by being ambiguous.

Proposed Change:

That WCAG 2.0 specify HTML as a minimum technology for making information accessible. That existing technologies be incorporated into WCAG using specific guidelines for current user agents.
The conformance section of WCAG2 has been completely rewritten. The term "baseline" has been replaced by "accessibility-supported Web technologies". The issue of what it means to be an accessibility-supported Web technology is addressed in the section "Accessibility Support of Web Technologies" at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#accessibility-support .

WCAG 2.0 is technology neutral, so it would be inappropriate to require any specific technology, such as HTML. (We would, nevertheless, be surprised to find environments that did not consider HTML to be accessibility supported).
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LC-888 Monica Løland, The Danish Council of Organisations of Disabled People (DSI) <mol@handicap.dk> on behalf of The Danish Council of Organisations of Disabled People (DSI) (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: substantive
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

According to WCAG 2.0 conformance at level Triple-A (AAA) is met when all Level 1, all Level 2 and at least 50 % of the Level 3 success criteria that apply to the content types used are met. How are the 50 % selected – randomly?

Proposed Change:

We mean that it is important for WCAG to decide in advance which of the Level 3 criteria shall be met to obtain Triple-A conformance.
We have changed the definition of Level AAA conformance so that all Level AAA Success Criteria that apply to the content types used must be satisfied. tocheck
LC-818 Priti <priti.rohra@n-syst.com> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Web authors can easily conform to this success criteria by simply providing a descriptive text label for non-text content. By providing the option to define only the purpose of the non-text content, we are giving the developer the option of ignoring accessibility.

Proposed Change:
Thank you for your comment. The only times it is acceptable to simply identify the purpose of the non text content are described by the situations listed in the revised criterion. For example, for a Webcam at a ski resort, the Web site might offer information on the snowfall amount for the last 24 hours, but the Webcam allows users who can see to actually see what the weather is at that moment in time. Because the Webcam is live video-only, a text alternative cannot provide equivalent information and so a descriptive text label is sufficient. We have modified 1.1.1 as follows:

1.1.1 Non-text Content: All non-text content has a text alternative that presents equivalent information, except for the situations listed below.

* Controls-Input: If non-text content is a control or accepts user input, then it has a name that describes its purpose. (See also Guideline 4.1 Maximize compatibility with current and future user agents, including assistive technologies )
* Media, Test, Sensory: If non-text content is multimedia , live audio-only or live video-only content, a test or exercise that must be presented in non-text format , or primarily intended to create a specific sensory experience , then text alternatives at least identify the non-text content with a descriptive text label. (For multimedia, see also Guideline 1.2 Provide synchronized alternatives for multimedia .)
* CAPTCHA: If the purpose of non-text content is to confirm that content is being accessed by a person rather than a computer, then text alternatives that identify and describe the purpose of the non-text content are provided and alternative forms in different modalities are provided to accommodate different disabilities.
* Decoration, Formatting, Invisible: If non-text content is pure decoration, or used only for visual formatting, or if it is not presented to users, then it is implemented such that it can be ignored by assistive technology.
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LC-651 Rich Caloggero <rich_caloggero@wgbh.org> on behalf of WGBH NCAM (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: GE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

I think 2.0 is bloated, and hard to understand. I can see on the one hand why it might need to be a bit more weighty than 1.0 because its scope is much wider (other formats besides HTML are considered). However, what they have come up with is exceedingly complex, convoluted, and not very comprehensible. Its not going to make promotion of accessibility any easier or more practical. In fact, it may have the opposite effect; people will avoid it like the plague, because they don\'t understand it, and they don\'t have time or energy to bother trying!

I\'m not sure exactly what this means in practical terms. I see large corporations saying \"we don\'t have time to deal with this\", and the \"little guys\" just won\'t be bothered at all.


Proposed Change:

I think that instead of trying to incorporate all technologies and all \"disabilities\" into one large framework, WAI should consider breaking it up by technology (HTML/web, PDF and other stand-alone \"document\" formats, etc). Of course, then we get into issues like \"well when will w3c address my xxx format\", but I think format-specific accessibility issues and techniques for addressing those issues are complex enough to warrent being addressed separately. There might also be a more general introductory document that tries to unify things a bit by highlighting the general accessibility issues common among all formats.

Breaking things down by disability might be useful, but again thorny issues arise like \"why hasn\'t the w3c addressed the needs of people with xxx disability\". Realistically, however, most accessibility issues relate to people with vision and hearing loss. Many solutions which address people with these disabilities will also address the needs of people with mobility impairments (input device independence). People with learning disabilities can also bennefit from guidelines not explicitly written for that group: if pages can be used via screen reader, then other intermediary software could use the same information to present the document in a way more conducive to folks with LD. In effect, making something usable by someone using a screen reader means that it is written in such a way that a software entity (in this case, a screen reader) can act as an intermediary in a way that preserves all the ritchness and semantics of the original document. If this is true, then we should be able to replace the screen reader with another software agent aimed at helping LD folks.

Again, the points here are that the spec is too bloated and complex because its scope is too wide. Any kind of modularization, either as outlined above, or by breaking it down some other way, is good.
We agree with the need to simplify the guidelines and have taken extensive steps to do so. Some of these include:

Easier language to understand
- Wrote simpler guidelines
- Removed as many technical terms (jargon) as possible replacing them with plainer language or, where possible, their definitions
- Eliminated several new or unfamiliar terms. (authored unit, etc.)
- Removed the term Baseline and replaced it with “web technologies that are accessibility supported� and then defined what it means to be accessibility supported.
- Removed the nesting of definitions where we could (i.e. definitions that pointed to other definitions)
- Tried to word things in manners that are more understandable to different levels of Web expertise
- Added short names/handles on each success criterion to make them easier to find and compare etc.
- Simplified the conformance

Shortening the document overall
- Shortened the introduction
- Moved much of the discussion out of the guidelines and put it in the Understanding WCAG 2.0 document
- Shortened the conformance section and moved it after the guidelines
- Moved mapping from WCAG 1 to a separate support document (so it can be updated more easily)

Creating a Quick Practitioner-oriented Summary / Checklist-like document
- Created a Quick Reference document that has just the Guidelines, success criteria and the techniques for meeting the success criteria.
With regard to creating a separate set of guidelines for different disabilities, we don't think that would be effective. Web authors have enough trouble without having to consult multiple documents in order to create one accessible site for people with disabilities.
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LC-1370 Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org> on behalf of I18N WG (archived comment)
Comment from the i18n review of:
http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-WCAG20-20060427/

Comment 1
At http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/0606-wcag2/
Editorial/substantive: E
Owner: RI

Location in reviewed document:
Introduction

Comment:
The content of the introduction is long and written in a legalistic style that is hard to get through. I think this can putoff, or at least scare, web designers and content authors.


I suggest that you provide short summaries of each major section, written in a friendly style, so that people can get thegist of the section. That way the complex normative text can remain, but does not have to be read in detail until needed.


Also, use more active phrasing. For example, "The set of technologies that an author assumes are supported and turned on inaccessible user agents is called a baseline." could be written "A baseline is what we call the set of technologies that an author assumes aresupported and turned on in accessible user agents." This is easier to read, makes it easier to find the definition of 'baseline', and gives a quickeridea of the content of the paragraph for those who are skimming text.
We have reworked the entire document to make it shorter and easier to read and understand with different levels of expertise. This includes

Easier language to understand
- Wrote simpler guidelines
- Removed as many technical terms (jargon) as possible replacing them with plainer language or, where possible, their definitions
- Eliminated several new or unfamiliar terms. (authored unit, etc.)
- Removed the term Baseline and replaced it with “web technologies that are accessibility supported� and then defined what it means to be accessibility supported.
- Removed the nesting of definitions where we could (i.e. definitions that pointed to other definitions)
- Tried to word things in manners that are more understandable to different levels of Web expertise
- Added short names/handles on each success criterion to make them easier to find and compare etc.
- Simplified the conformance

Shortening the document overall
- Shortened the introduction
- Moved much of the discussion out of the guidelines and put it in the Understanding WCAG 2.0 document
- Shortened the conformance section and moved it after the guidelines
- Moved mapping from WCAG 1 to a separate support document (so it can be updated more easily)

Creating a Quick Practitioner-oriented Summary / Checklist-like document
- Created a Quick Reference document that has just the Guidelines, success criteria and the techniques for meeting the success criteria.

We can't always use active phrasing but we have tried to use it wherever we could - much more than in last draft (though success criteria need to be in a true/false format)

We have summary information at the front, and each guideline and SC has a link to more explanatory info.

See if this version isn't easier to use and understand.
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LC-1371 Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org> on behalf of I18N WG (archived comment)
Comment from the i18n review of:
http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-WCAG20-20060427/

Comment 2
At http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/0606-wcag2/
Editorial/substantive: S/E
Owner: RI

Location in reviewed document:
Guideline 3.1

Comment:
The term 'primary' is used here in a different way than currently used in i18n documents. We use 'primary language' to meanthe intended audience of the document - as specified in the HTTP header or the meta statement. Our equivalent for your term 'primary language' wouldbe 'default text-processing language', based on the associated explanations. This is what is expressed via the language attribute(s) on the html element. (Note that we are currently considering options for replacing the term 'primary language' with something less ambiguous and moreaccurate.)


For a summary of our current usage see
http://www.w3.org/TR/i18n-html-tech-lang/#ri20040808.100519373 [http://www.w3.org/TR/i18n-html-tech-lang/#ri20040808.100519373]


We believe that what is necessary for accessibility is identification of the text-processing language - ie. so that text-to-speech systems know what language they are dealing with.


We suggest that you say "The natural language or languages of the Web unit..."
We have revised our terminology to "default human language". We have changed the use of this term in both the guidelines and techniques. yes
LC-830 Rick Hill <rrhill@ucdavis.edu> (archived comment)
2. Being able to define entire directories of your site as off-limits
to accessibility should only be allowed when the content cannot be
made accessible.
The "Scope out" language has been removed. Conformance claims must describe the set of Web pages covered by the claim. tocheck
LC-831 Rick Hill <rrhill@ucdavis.edu> (archived comment)
3. The compliance "levels" do not seem to have become simpler.
Perhaps more cryptic. And I would like to see a move toward
enforcible standrads rather than merely guidelines (as in what was
attempted with the language of 508).
The description of conformance levels in WCAG 2 has been rewritten to clarify the differences (see http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#overview-levels ):

"The word "levels" does not mean that some success criteria are more important than others. Each success criterion in WCAG 2.0 is essential to some users, and the levels build upon each other. However, even content that conforms at AAA (triple-A) may not be fully accessible to every person with a disability.

*In general, Level A success criteria achieve accessibility by supporting assistive technology while putting the fewest possible limits on presentation. Thus people with a wide range of disabilities using a wide range of assistive technologies, from voice input and eye-tracking devices to screen readers and screen magnifiers, are able to access content in different ways. In other words, Level A success criteria support the ability of both mainstream and specialized user agents to adapt content to formats that meet their users' needs.

*The success criteria in Level AA provide additional support for assistive technology. At the same time, they also support direct access to content by the many people who use conventional user agents without assistive technology. In general, Level AA success criteria place more limits on visual presentation and other aspects of content than the success criteria in Level A.

*Level AAA success criteria increase both direct access and access through assistive technology. They place tighter limits on both presentation and content."

We have made testability a high priority in WCAG 2, in hopes of gaining some of the benefits of a standard versus a guideline.
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LC-832 Rick Hill <rrhill@ucdavis.edu> (archived comment)
6. It would seem that WCAG 2 proposes maintaining separate accessible
and inaccessible versions of the same pages.
WCAG 2 does not promote the idea of maintaining separate accessible
and inaccessible versions of the same pages, but does not prohibit maintaining separate accessible and inaccessible versions of the same pages as this accommodates the provision of versions of pages optimized for use by people with specific disabilities.
Authors may use technologies that are not accessibility-supported Web technologies provided that the authors do not rely upon those technologies for conveying any information or functionality. That is, the information and functionality provided through the non-qualifying technology is also provided using accessibility-supported Web technologies. In addition, the presence of content in the non-accessibility-supported technology must not block the ability of the users to access the content via the accessible technologies. More information can be found on this in the Conformance section, http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#conformance .
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LC-829 Rick Hill <rrhill@ucdavis.edu> (archived comment)
1. The provision to define a technology as a "baseline"Â? is not
useful unless there is either some way to make sure that the
technology is inherently accessible and/or that there are provisions
to provide alternate technologies to provide accessible versions of the content where the baseline technology fails.
Even if a technology contains features that are not accessiblity supported, it can still be possible to produce conforming content as long as those features do not occur in the content. For example, let's imagine a technology that fully conforms to WCAG 2.0 with the only exception that non-text content cannot be supported with alternative text. You may not logically expect to see this technology used in a WCAG 2.0 compliance site. But the author can use this technology and claim conformance if there is no non-text content of this technology in the web pages. tocheck
LC-681 Robert C. Baker <Robert.C.Baker@ssa.gov> on behalf of Social Security Administration (archived comment)
The Social Security Administration welcomes the opportunity to comment on the proposed WCAG 2.0 standards. In general, SSA finds that the general content of the proposed standards addresses many shortcomings of the previous version of the standards. In addition, the baseline concept for establishing a testing environment provides excellent direction for accessibility and validation testing. However, SSA has some concerns that should be addressed before the final version is published.

§ The principles are broken down into 4 simple components – perceivable, operable, understandable and robust, which we agree is an excellent way to structure the standards at a high level. However, the explanations and further breakdown tend to be confusing and navigation through the 400 plus pages is unwieldy. As a result - it can be difficult to determine if appropriate standards exists to guide development activities.

§ Specific techniques for meeting the guidelines are very scientific and precise, however from a pragmatic perspective will be difficult to implement due to focus on mathematic calculations to address unfamiliar issues such as luminosity and audio levels.

§ Success criteria in some cases are very general and in need of further definition to support proper implementation (for example: minimal level of accessibility is defined as the target - but the criteria for meeting this requirement are not defined).


§ The guidelines do not address the following:

§ Alt text for images, links, etc. that are normally exposed by mouse over capabilities must also be accessible by the keyboard.

§ For error handling, there must be a way for users to know where errors are in a form and be able to navigate directly to the input in error.

§ Guidelines for creating HTML documentation and Help must be stated and Help using navigational techniques must also be documented for accessibility.

§ Informational text and instructions within web applications must have a focal point achieved by using tab indices of zero or some equivalent technique.

§ Applets and plug-ins used with web pages or applications must be referenced with specific guidelines for accessibility.

§ Standardized keyboard navigation through frames.

§ Search facility guidelines for navigation and focus.

§ Mark-up of textual information for carets and other pointers.

§ Avoiding conflicts between browser and web application commands.


§ In addition, we recommend the W3C address the following items at a later date:

§ Guidelines should provide additional guidance and examples are needed to address user navigation to errors once they are identified.

§ Guidelines should address keyboard access, however additional guidance is needed for when to assign hotkeys, defining logical tab order, hotkeys shown on buttons, and defining tab indices for text focus and search functionality. Also, guidance is needed to determine what is an acceptable number of keystrokes to perform the equivalent of one mouse action to provide comparable access.

§ Guidelines should address e-learning considerations, such as navigation, registration, administration, courseware, simulations, test taking, and reporting results.

§ Guidelines should address context sensitive help built into the HTML structure.

§ Guidelines should address table navigation for magnification users.

Respectfully,
Robert Baker
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§ The principles are broken down into 4 simple components – perceivable, operable, understandable and robust, which we agree is an excellent way to structure the standards at a high level. However, the explanations and further breakdown tend to be confusing and navigation through the 400 plus pages is unwieldy. As a result - it can be difficult to determine if appropriate standards exists to guide development activities.

§ Specific techniques for meeting the guidelines are very scientific and precise, however from a pragmatic perspective will be difficult to implement due to focus on mathematic calculations to address unfamiliar issues such as luminosity and audio levels.

§ Success criteria in some cases are very general and in need of further definition to support proper implementation (for example: minimal level of accessibility is defined as the target - but the criteria for meeting this requirement are not defined).

We agree with this assesment and have created the QUICK REFERENCE document (http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/quickref/). We believe that this will address your concern by putting the requirements and a succinct list of techniques for meeting them all in one document. The sufficient techniques are very concrete and have full descriptions, examples and tests associated with them.

With regard to the technique requiring calculation, we provide links to free tools that will automatically carry out the calculations and evaluate content for you. In the past we only said things like "use sufficent contrast" which provided no guidance and did not allow authors to ever determine if they had met the guideline or not.
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§ Alt text for images, links, etc. that are normally exposed by mouse over capabilities must also be accessible by the keyboard.

Keyboard operations requirement and alt text are already in the guideline at level A. Assuming content meets WCAG 2.0, it is the user agent that determines if alt text can be exposed by keyboard only. If a 'mouseover' event is used in scripting then SC 2.1.1 would require that moving the focus to the item by keyboard would also trigger the same action as mouseover. So the concern is either met (in one case) or a user agent issue (in the other case).
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§ For error handling, there must be a way for users to know where errors are in a form and be able to navigate directly to the input in error.

The working group considered adding this requirement as a success criterion, and decided not to because it is too specific to apply to all technologies and all environments. However, there are several advisory techniques provided that will help authors who wish to design more usable forms.
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§ Guidelines for creating HTML documentation and Help must be stated and Help using navigational techniques must also be documented for accessibility.

We agree that Help and documentation that is available *on the web* is web content and hence that it should conform to these Guidelines. Note that although the same issues appear for documentation and Help files for desktop applications, these guidelines do not address that content. However, we feel that attempting to single out specific examples of Web content is likely to lead people to believe that only the listed examples are covered.
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§ Informational text and instructions within web applications must have a focal point achieved by using tab indices of zero or some equivalent technique.

The working group believes that there are some instances where deliberately putting focus on something (like error messages) can be helpful, but that attempting to control the way a user interacts with all pages, especially where it may conflict with expected behaviors for forms or other user interface components, is problematic.
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§ Applets and plug-ins used with web pages or applications must be referenced with specific guidelines for accessibility.

Programmatic content (applets, etc.) are covered in several ways. If they are not accessibility supported, then conformance requirement6 requires that the inaccessible content do no harm and conformance requirement 4 requires that an accessible version also be provided.

If the technologies are accessibility supported, then SC 4.1.2 requires that the programmatic content be compatible with assistive technologies and be accessible. In addition, all of the other success criteria (such as keyboard operability) in the guidelines would also need to be met by the programmatic content.

The term "plug-in" is usually used for extensions to user agents, and is related to the definitions of "user agent" and "assistive technology". Guidelines related to the accessibility of plug-ins themselves can be found in the User Agent Accessibility Guidelines (http://www.w3.org/TR/UAAG10/).
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§ Standardized keyboard navigation through frames.

The success criteria in guideline 2.1 require that all content be operable via the keyboard. How user agents provide keyboard navigation through frames is a user agent issue.
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§ Search facility guidelines for navigation and focus.

While this can be helpful for improving the experience with Windows Narrator, more fully-featured screen readers have the ability to allow users to interact with all kinds of text. Users of those screen readers are used to the way they interact with structured pages, and don't need this extra help.

In addition, there are many issues for other types of users with this non-standard approach. For example,

1) Unexpected behavior for all users
2) Developers often attach events to paragraphs and other non-actionable elements when they have focus, and this is not compatible with AT.
3) This will be more difficult for sighted keyboard users, as they will have to tab through parts of the page that are not normally tabbable.
4) Confusing for experienced screen-reader users, because they expect that everything tabbable in a form is an editable field
5) Optimized for forms mode, but also used on non-form pages. This is very strange when in browse mode, because users expect to be able to tab to find links.
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§ Mark-up of textual information for carets and other pointers.

The user agent issue is, of course, outside of our guidelines and would be in the domain of the user agent guidelines. From a content perspective, any non-text content must have text equivalents under SC 1.1.1. Structure (lists etc.) must be programatically determinable under SC 1.3.1. Other use of characters that convey information required to understand and operate content should be addressed by SC 1.3.3 (formerly 1.3.5).
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§ Avoiding conflicts between browser and web application commands.

We will be adding an advisory technique titled "Avoiding use of common user-agent keyboard commands for other purposes."
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§ Guidelines should provide additional guidance and examples are needed to address user navigation to errors once they are identified.

There are advisory techniques for SC 2.5.3 that cover much of the SSA recommendations. They include.
-Validating form submissions on the server (future link)
-Re-displaying a form with a summary of errors (future link)
-Providing error notification as the user enters information (future link)
-Assisting the user in making corrections by providing links to each error (future link)
-Highlighting or visually emphasizing errors where they occur (future link)
-Supplementing text with non-text content when reporting errors (future link)

In addition, we are adding the following advisory techniques.
-"Placing focus in the field containing the error"
-"Avoiding use of the same words or letter combinations to begin each item of a drop-down list"

And we have linked this SC to the following advisory technique:
"Providing client-side validation and alert"

NOTE: "(future link)" is what we call all techniques that we have identified and are listed in our "Understanding WCAG" and our "Quick Reference" documents but have not yet been fully written up.
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§ Guidelines should address keyboard access, however additional guidance is needed for when to assign hotkeys, defining logical tab order, hotkeys shown on buttons, and defining tab indices for text focus and search functionality. Also, guidance is needed to determine what is an acceptable number of keystrokes to perform the equivalent of one mouse action to provide comparable access.

This type of topic would be handled in an application notes. We would love to write an Application Note “Enhancing Keyboard Access to Web Content� that would provide guidance on assigning hotkeys, defining logical tab order, defining hotkeys shown on buttons, and defining tab indices for text focus and search functionality. It might also discuss the topic of “number of keystrokes to perform the equivalent of one mouse action� but it won’t be able to define “comparable access� since it would differ so much based on individual abilities to point or create keystrokes. User agent support for access keys is so bad that developers have started looking for server-side solutions that allow users to define access keys (see http://juicystudio.com/article/user-defined-accesskeys.php and http://juicystudio.com/article/user-defined-access-keys-aspversion.php). If you are aware of a good paper or application note on this we would be most interested.
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§ Guidelines should address e-learning considerations, such as navigation, registration, administration, courseware, simulations, test taking, and reporting results.

We belive that all of the fundamental issues raised in making these applications accessible are included in the guidelines. The guidelines cover form controls, text, images, multimedia and programmatic elements (applets and the like). The EO group working with WCAG WG will be working on application notes to look at particular applications in the future and we expect that additional techniques in this area will become available in the future. However, the basics should already all be in place.
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§ Guidelines should address context sensitive help built into the HTML structure.

Thank you, we have added an advisory technique (which will be completed at later date) titled "Using the title attribute to provide context-sensitive help" and another titled, "Using scripts to provide context-sensitive bubble help."
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§ Guidelines should address table navigation for magnification users.

Success criterion 1.3.1 includes requirements related to the use of table markup. The working group believes that this is a user agent issue rather than a content issue.

If you have suggestions for techniques that would improve table navigation for screen magnification users, please submit them so we can include them. (Refer to the techniques submission form at http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/TECHS-SUBMIT/).
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LC-718 Robert C. Baker <Robert.C.Baker@ssa.gov> on behalf of Social Security Administration (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

(See LC 681 for complete submission)

The guidelines do not address the following:

§ Alt text for images, links, etc. that are normally exposed by mouse over capabilities must also be accessible by the keyboard.

Proposed Change:
Keyboard operations requirement and alt text are already in the guideline at level A. Assuming content meets WCAG 2.0, it is the user agent that determines if alt text can be exposed by keyboard only. If a 'mouseover' event is used in scripting then the Keyboard operation SC (2.1.1) would require that moving the focus to the item by keyboard would also trigger the same action as mouseover. So the concern is either met (in one case) or a user agent issue (in the other case). tocheck
LC-722 Robert C. Baker <Robert.C.Baker@ssa.gov> on behalf of Social Security Administration (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

(See LC 681 for complete submission)

The guidelines do not address the following:

§Applets and plug-ins used with web pages or applications must be referenced with specific guidelines for accessibility.

Proposed Change:
Programmatic content (applets, etc.) are covered in several ways. If they are not accessibility supported, then conformance requirement6 requires that the inaccessible content do no harm and conformance requirement 4 requires that an accessible version also be provided.

If the technologies are accessibility supported, then SC 4.1.2 requires that the programmatic content be compatible with assistive technologies and be accessible. In addition, all of the other success criteria (such as keyboard operability) in the guidelines would also need to be met by the programmatic content.

The term "plug-in" is usually used for extensions to user agents, and is related to the definitions of "user agent" and "assistive technology". Guidelines related to the accessibility of plug-ins themselves can be found in the User Agent Accessibility Guidelines (http://www.w3.org/TR/UAAG10/).
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LC-725 Robert C. Baker <Robert.C.Baker@ssa.gov> on behalf of Social Security Administration (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

(See LC 681 for complete submission)

The guidelines do not address the following:

§Mark-up of textual information for carets and other pointers.

Proposed Change:

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SENT FOR CLARIFICATION
* Not sure on this one. If you mean graphic carets etc - they are covered under 1.1 which says that ALL non-text content must have text equivalents. If you mean text characters, -- well they are already text so I guess that isn't the problem. Does 1.1's requirement for text alternative for all graphics, and 1.3's requirement for content to be separable from presentation - (which would mean all bullets (lists) would need to be evident programmatically) - address your concern here? If not could you tell us more and give us an example that contains carets and other pointers so we can see what you mean?


CLARIFICATION RECEIVED

This is another extension of the issue with focal point. It is probably more of an issue with the user agent or browser. Browsers that supply an actual caret indicating where focus is can make web pages and applications easier to navigate like fat clients, word processors etc.
The user agent issue is, of course, outside of our guidelines and would be in the domain of the user agent guidelines. From a content perspective, any non-text content must have text equivalents under SC 1.1.1. Structure (lists etc.) must be programatically determinable under SC 1.3.1. Other use of characters that convey information required to understand and operate content should be addressed by SC 1.3.3 (formerly 1.3.5). tocheck
LC-726 Robert C. Baker <Robert.C.Baker@ssa.gov> on behalf of Social Security Administration (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

(See LC 681 for complete submission)

The guidelines do not address the following:

§Avoiding conflicts between browser and web application commands.

Proposed Change:
We will be adding an advisory technique titled "Avoiding use of common user-agent keyboard commands for other purposes." tocheck
LC-727 Robert C. Baker <Robert.C.Baker@ssa.gov> on behalf of Social Security Administration (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

(See LC 681 for complete submission)

In addition, we recommend the W3C address the following items at a later date:

§ Guidelines should provide additional guidance and examples are needed to address user navigation to errors once they are identified.

Proposed Change:
There are advisory techniques for SC 2.5.3 that cover much of the SSA recommendations. They include.
-Validating form submissions on the server (future link)
-Re-displaying a form with a summary of errors (future link)
-Providing error notification as the user enters information (future link)
-Assisting the user in making corrections by providing links to each error (future link)
-Highlighting or visually emphasizing errors where they occur (future link)
-Supplementing text with non-text content when reporting errors (future link)

In addition, we are adding the following advisory techniques.
-"Placing focus in the field containing the error"
-"Avoiding use of the same words or letter combinations to begin each item of a drop-down list"

And we have linked this SC to the following advisory technique:
"Providing client-side validation and alert"

NOTE: "(future link)" is what we call all techniques that we have identified and are listed in our "Understanding WCAG" and our "Quick Reference" documents but have not yet been fully written up.
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LC-728 Robert C. Baker <Robert.C.Baker@ssa.gov> on behalf of Social Security Administration (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

(See LC 681 for complete submission)

In addition, we recommend the W3C address the following items at a later date:

§ Guidelines should address keyboard access, however additional guidance is needed for when to assign hotkeys, defining logical tab order, hotkeys shown on buttons, and defining tab indices for text focus and search functionality. Also, guidance is needed to determine what is an acceptable number of keystrokes to perform the equivalent of one mouse action to provide comparable access.

Proposed Change:
This type of topic would be handled in an application notes. We would love to write an Application Note “Enhancing Keyboard Access to Web Content� that would provide guidance on assigning hotkeys, defining logical tab order, defining hotkeys shown on buttons, and defining tab indices for text focus and search functionality. It might also discuss the topic of “number of keystrokes to perform the equivalent of one mouse action� but it won’t be able to define “comparable access� since it would differ so much based on individual abilities to point or create keystrokes. User agent support for access keys is so bad that developers have started looking for server-side solutions that allow users to define access keys (see http://juicystudio.com/article/user-defined-accesskeys.php and http://juicystudio.com/article/user-defined-access-keys-aspversion.php). If you are aware of a good paper or application note on this we would be most interested. tocheck
LC-729 Robert C. Baker <Robert.C.Baker@ssa.gov> on behalf of Social Security Administration (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

(See LC 681 for complete submission)

In addition, we recommend the W3C address the following items at a later date:

§ Guidelines should address e-learning considerations, such as navigation, registration, administration, courseware, simulations, test taking, and reporting results.

Proposed Change:
We belive that all of the fundamental issues raised in making these applications accessible are included in the guidelines. The guidelines cover form controls, text, images, multimedia and programmatic elements (applets and the like). The EO group working with WCAG WG will be working on application notes to look at particular applications in the future and we expect that additional techniques in this area will become available in the future. However, the basics should already all be in place. tocheck
LC-730 Robert C. Baker <Robert.C.Baker@ssa.gov> on behalf of Social Security Administration (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

(See LC 681 for complete submission)

In addition, we recommend the W3C address the following items at a later date:

§ Guidelines should address context sensitive help built into the HTML structure.

Proposed Change:
Thank you, we have added an advisory technique (which will be completed at later date) titled "Using the title attribute to provide context-sensitive help" and another titled, "Using scripts to provide context-sensitive bubble help." tocheck
LC-807 Robert Whittaker <robert.whittaker@gmail.com> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

The baseline concept is not wery well explained in the guidelines, and is never really defined properly. External docuemnts should not be relied upon to define key conepts.

Also, the descriptive use of \"technologies\" without further explanation is not good when you\'re really refering to data formats, markup and scripting languages (rather than software).

Proposed Change:

Provide a clearer definition / explanation of the baseline concept in the guidelines themselves.

Provide at least one example of a baseline specification (perhaps with the examples under the \"Who sets baselines?\" heading).
The conformance section of WCAG2 has been completely rewritten. The term "baseline" has been replaced by "accessibility-supported Web technologies". The issue of what it means to be an accessibility-supported Web technology is addressed in the section "Accessibility Support of Web Technologies" at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#accessibility-support . tocheck
LC-808 Robert Whittaker <robert.whittaker@gmail.com> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: GE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

The terminology for \"authored unit\", \"authored component\", \"web unit\" seems rather excessive, and potentially confusing. Can it be simplified with fewer (and perhaps more natural) terms?

Proposed Change:
We have replaced the term "Web unit" with "Web page" and have reformulated the success criteria and glossary to remove both "authored unit" and "authored component" from the guidelines. tocheck
LC-809 Robert Whittaker <robert.whittaker@gmail.com> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: GE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

The definition of "parsed unambiguously" is rather ambiguous, and the gudelines themselves don't explain what is required. Does this mean a particular UA must have the same structure on each parsing of the same page (which only requires that UA behave deterministically) or that *all* UAs get the same structure (which is impossible without having all UAs store their data in the same way)?

For accessibility, it is vital that data be presented in a manner that complies with a published standard - otherwise how do UA-makers, or people who want/need to write their own parsing tools know what to expect and how to handle the data. With a multiplicity of UAs, the only sensible interpretation of "parsed unambiguously" is that the data stream complies with a published standard. That being the case, the guidelines should state this.

Proposed Change:

Simplify and strengthen the guidelines by removing the concept of "parsed unambiguously", and replace it with a guideline that says that data formats used must comply with a published specification (to be referenced in the baseline).

(Of course this may be an author-published one - though authors should be discouraged from doing so.)
To make this requirement easier to understand, we have reworded SC 4.1.1 as follows:

Content implemented using markup languages has elements with complete start and end tags, except as allowed by their specifications, and are nested according to their specifications.

Note: Start and end tags that are missing a critical character in their formation, such as a closing angle bracket or a mismatched attribute value quote are not complete.

The working group looked at this topic carefully over an extended period of time and concluded that requiring strict adherence to all aspects of specifications does not necessarily result in an increase in accessibility. For example, it is possible to create invalid pages that present no accessibility barriers. It is also possible in certain situations to enhance accessibility through the use of markup that is not part of the specification.

The working group must work within its charter and only include things that directly affected accessibility. Some aspects of "use technologies according to specification" and validity do relate to accessibility. However, others do not. So requiring validity would take us beyond our charter. We do recommend it though and it is our #1 technique listed for conforming to SC 4.1.1.
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LC-470 Roger Hudson <rhudson@usability.com.au> (archived comment)
Item Number: Make text content readable and understandable.
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

Guideline 3.1 is concerned with the need to make text readable and understandable. In general WCAG 2.0 contains very few provisions for improving the accessibility of web content for people with cognitive disabilities or learning difficulties. There is the level 3 SC 3.1.5, which is concerned with the reading level of text, however it is a fallacy to assume all cognitive disabilities somehow relate to a persons ability to read.

WCAG 1.0 contained the Priority 1 Checkpoint 14.1 (Use the Clearest and simplest language appropriate for a site's content). It also contained the Priority 2 Checkpoint 12.3 (Divide large blocks of information into more manageable groups where natural and appropriate). Combined these two checkpoints communicated the desirability of preparing content that could be accessed by people with a range of cognitive and intellectual abilities and suggestions for how this could be achieved. Unfortunately, WCAG 2.0 does not appear to contain a similar commitment or guidance to these issues.

Proposed Change:
Guideline 3.1 should contain two new Level 2 success criteria, which read:

1. "When web units contain text, the clearest and simplest language appropriate for the users of the content is used and large blocks of information are presented using appropriate headings and subheading."

2. "When forms are presented, the controls in similar areas of a form should be grouped together and appropriately identified."
The working group was unable to come up with a testable equivalent of WCAG1 14.1. However, we have added an advisory technique to guideline 3.1 and SC 3.1.5 that reads, "Using the clearest and simplest language appropriate for the content."

We have also added a new Success Criterion to GL 3.1, "Pages are organized into sub-sections with titles", to address some of the properties covered by Checkpoint 12.3.

We have added language to the Introduction to highlight the fact that WCAG 2 only addresses some of the needs of people with cognitive, learning, and language disabilities, and calls out the need for more research in this area. WAI is exploring ways in which to support and encourage work in this important area.

We have added some best practices for cognitive, learning, and language disabilities as advisory techniques. We have not been able to propose many additional success criteria that meet WCAG's testability requirements.
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LC-472 Roger Hudson <rhudson@usability.com.au> (archived comment)
Item Number: Success Criterion 4.1.1
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

The "Understanding WCAG 2.0" comments relating to SC 4.1.1 indicate poorly coded content may not be correctly rendered by assistive technologies. This accurate comment was presumably one of the guiding principles behind the WCAG 1.0 Checkpoint 3.2, "Create documents that validate to published formal grammars."

Although there is a view WCAG 2.0 needs to be technologically neutral, I believe we should be mindful of the fact that most web pages today use (x)html and this is likely to continue to be the case for the foreseeable future. Over the years a suite of recognised standards (html, css, mathml, etc) have emerged. Many assistive technologies (and other devices) use these standards, and associated document type declarations, and an increasing number of developers know that it is desirable to produce code that complies with them.

It seems to me, the weasel words used in SC 4.1.1 are a tortured and misguided attempt to avoid saying websites should use valid code. Why? Surely, the W3C is one organization that should be wholeheartedly committed to the notion of promoting clearly defined standards. Instead, we seem to have abandoned the guideline that required the use of valid code in favour of, what? I was interested to notice that the "Understanding WCAG 2.0" Techniques for this SC contain three techniques, but details are only provided for the one that relates to "Validating web units". The last suggested technique is, "Fully conforming to specification". No details at all appear to be provided about what these specifications are, or who will determine them.

Proposed Change:
I believe SC 4.1.1 should remain a level 1 SC but should be rewritten to read, "Web Units or authored components validate to formal grammars published by the W3C."
We have modified the success criterion to clarify that content can be parsed successfully using the rules of the specification for the technology in use.

The working group looked at this topic carefully over an extended period of time and concluded that requiring strict adherence to all aspects of specifications does not necessarily result in an increase in accessibility. For example, it is possible to create invalid pages that present no accessibility barriers. It is also possible in certain situations to enhance accessibility through the use of markup that is not part of the specification.

The working group must work within its charter and only include things that directly affected accessibility. Some aspects of "use technologies according to specification" and validity do relate to accessibility. However, others do not. So requiring validity would take us beyond our charter. We do recommend it though and it is our #1 technique listed for conforming to SC 4.1.1.
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LC-473 Roger Hudson <rhudson@usability.com.au> (archived comment)
Item Number: Success Criterion 2.4.4
Part of Item:
Comment Type: GE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):
Although the wording of SC 2.4.4 is convoluted, it is presumably a replacement for WCAG 1.0, Checkpoint 13.1 "Clearly identify the target of each link [Priority 2]". However 13.1 also required the link text to meaningful enough to make sense when read out of context, either on their own or as a sequence of links, and this does not appear to be the case with SC 2.4.4.

In my experience, many screen reader users extensively use the screen-reader facility that enables them to obtain a list of links on a page. This is often the preferred technique when looking for information on a site or undertaking a task, and in virtually all situations it is only effective when the link text indicates the link destination. While I believe it is possible with some screen readers to select an option that provides context from the surrounding text I have never seen this done. However, many times I have seen screen reader users become frustrated with links that contain only the words "more", "next" or "click here".

I believe it is very important for link text to provide a clear indication of the link destination. Also, the link text should make sense without the need to rely on surrounding contextual information or a title attribute within the link element.

Proposed Change:

I believe 2.4.4 should remain a level 2 SC, but should be rewritten to read, "The target or destination of each link should be clearly indicated by the link text."
WCAG 1.0, Checkpoint 13.1 is the equivalent of SC 2.4.8, since SC 2.4.4 permits the use of programmatically determined context. SC 2.4.8 is at level AAA because of the potential usability problems introduced by requiring that the link text alone be sufficient. For instance, in a table of links, repeating the table header information in each cell makes the table much more difficult to use.

The basic requirement that assistive technology be able to determine the purpose of the link is covered by SC 2.4.4. This success criterion has been moved to level A.
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LC-527 Roger Hudson <rhudson@usability.com.au> (archived comment)
Item Number: (none selected)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: ED
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

The language used in the Last Call version of WCAG 2 is considerably more readable and understandable than that used in the previous draft. However, the desire for technological neutrality means that WCAG 2 provides very little practical guidance in how to improve the accessibility of websites. The supporting documents do contain specific examples and techniques, but in reality most site developers are very busy and not particularly interested in accessibility and so there is little chance of them searching out this information.

For example, I wonder how many people are likely to realise the need to use header elements appropriately is covered by 1.3.1, "Information and relationships conveyed through presentation can be programmatically determined, and notification of changes to these is available to user agents, including assistive technologies."

Proposed Change:

Since at this time most people use HTML, it would be useful to include specific HTML-related example of how to implement the guidelines in the core document. With reference to the example above, include the following (which is out of WCAG 1) “User header elements to convey document structure. For example, in HTML, use H2 to indicate a subsection of H1.
In an effort to make it clear what is normative and what is informative, we have kept all examples out of the guidelines themselves. We expect many texts to be developed that would do a better job of teaching the guidelines. We have had to focus our efforts on creating a clean and concise version of the guidelines. We have tried to put links to "how to meet" next to each guideline to make it easier without putting all the informative information directly into the guidelines.

We'd also like to bring your attention to the draft "WCAG 2.0 Quick Reference" document. The WCAG 2.0 Quick Reference is a summary of all WCAG 2.0 requirements (success criteria) and techniques sufficient to meet them. http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/quickref/
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LC-562 Roger Hudson <rhudson@usability.com.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: GE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Guideline 2.4 is concerned with providing mechanisms to help users find content, orientate themselves within it and navigate through it. Nearly all text-based information on the web is currently presented using (x)html, and WCAG 1.0 required the appropriate use of header elements to convey the structure of these documents. That is, the H1 header element should be used for the main heading of the page. Subsequent headers (H2, H3 etc) should be used to identify and present different sections and sub-sections of content on the page.

Many users of assistive technologies rely on appropriate header elements to skim through information and easily locate the different sections of a page. The Last Call draft puts the requirement to use headers appropriately under SC 1.3.1. I am concerned that if there is no specific SC relating to this issue, we will increasingly see a range of different CSS classes being used to identify (and control the presentation of) headings or heaven forbid, a return to the font element. Such a situation will greatly compromise the ability of screen reader users to find content and navigate through documents.


Proposed Change:

Given the importance of well-structured headers for screen reader users, I believe Guideline 2.4 should contain an additional Level 1 Success Criteria that reads, "Each heading and subheading is presented using appropriate header elements that reflect the structure of the document and can be reliably interpreted by users agents including assistive technologies."
Appropriate use of headers is covered under SC 1.3.1. In particular, "Failure of SC 1.3.1 and 1.3.4 due to using CSS to create variations in presentation of text that conveys information without also using the appropriate markup or text" prohibit CSS classes or font usage without appropriate heading markup. However, because of the importance of headings to navigation, we have added discussion to How To Meet 2.4, drawing attention to SC 1.3.1 and the role of headings in navigation. tocheck
LC-563 Roger Hudson <rhudson@usability.com.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Guideline 2.4 is concerned with providing mechanisms to help users find content and orientate themselves and navigate through it. However, I am concerned that there does not appear to be a success criteria relating to the need to title frames whereas WCAG 1.0 had a Priority 1 issue relating to this.

Although the use of frames has diminished and modern screen readers are much better at handling frames, a significant number of sites still contain frames. Many people, who depend on screen readers, continue to use older version of their technologies, often for financial reasons, and have problems orientating themselves in framed sites and navigating through these sites.


Proposed Change:

I suggest Guideline 2.4 should contain a new Level 2 Success Criteria that reads, \"When a web unit contains frame elements, each frame has an appropriate title to facilitate frame identification and navigation.\"
We have included a sufficient technique about providing titles for frames to Success Criterion 4.1.2 titled "Using the title attribute of the frame element." tocheck
LC-564 Roger Hudson <rhudson@usability.com.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Guideline 1.4 is concerned with making it easy to distinguish foreground information from the background. Many people with impaired vision, including a significant proportion of the older population, often find it hard to read the default text size. The use of absolute values for font sizes can make it very difficult for people with impaired vision to increase the size of the text on the screen. Sometime these people have the knowledge and opportunity to change the default computer settings but this is often not the case.

Proposed Change:

I suggest Guideline 1.4 should contain a new level 2 Success Criteria that requires the use of relative rather than absolute values to control the size of all text including headings.
Although resizing is primarily a user agent function, we have added new success criteria to address the author's responsibility for supporting text resizing:

Level AA: Visually rendered text can be resized without assistive technology up to 200 percent and down to 50 percent without loss of content or functionality.

Level AAA: Visually rendered text can be resized without assistive technology up to 200 percent and down to 50 percent without loss of content or functionality and in a way that does not require the user to scroll horizontally.
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LC-565 Roger Hudson <rhudson@usability.com.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Guideline 4.1 is concerned with ensuring compatibility with current and future user agents including assistive technologies. However, within WCAG 2.0 there does not appear to be any requirement to avoid the use of deprecated W3C technologies. Also there is no explicit indication that layout tables should not use structural markup for the purpose of visual formatting. It appears that many of the issues relating to the use of tables are intended to be covered by SC 1.3.1, however the HTML techniques relating to this SC in the \"Understanding WCAG 2.0\" document make no reference to the inappropriate use of table markup.

Proposed Change:

I suggest Guideline 4.1 contain a Level 1 Success Criteria which reads, \"When a table is used for layout, it does not use structural markup for the purpose of visual formatting.\"

I suggest Guideline 4.1 contain a Level 2 Success Criteria which reads, \"Deprecated features of W3C technologies are not used.\"
The Working Group agrees that misuse of layout tables should be a failure. However 1.3.1 is the proper place for this and this is covered by two HTML failures under 1.3.1 titled "Failure of SC 1.3.1 due to using th elements, caption elements, or non-empty summary attributes in layout tables" and "Failure of SC 1.3.1 due to using structural markup in a way that does not represent relationships in the content".

RE Deprecated W3C technologies: [The Working Group assumes this refers to deprecated features rather than deprecated technologies.] Not all deprecated features are accessibility issues or problems for assistive technologies. A blanket prohibition is therefore not felt to be appropriate. If we receive information about any such issues that we don't already know about, we will create failure techniques for them."
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LC-567 Roger Hudson <rhudson@usability.com.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Success Criteria 2.4.1 is a Level 1 criteria concerned with provide mechanisms that will allow users to by pass blocks of content that are repeated on different web pages, eg navigation menus. The HTML techniques relating to this SC in the Understanding WCAG 2.0 document include the use of skip links, but there does not appear to be a requirement to make the skip links visible.

Skip links allow the user to bypass sections of the page. However, skip links that are not visible offer no benefit to sighted users of the web who rely on switching devices.

A user who is dependent on a switching device, such as a pressure switch in a headrest or a \'suck –puff\' straw, often has to physically activate the device many times as they tab though many navigation links on their way to the page content. The inclusion of a visible \"skip to content\" link at the top of the page would allow them to jump directly to the content.


Proposed Change:

I suggest the Working Group explicitly require skip links to be present and to be visible.
This issue has been discussed by the working group many times. Providing skip links that are visible is one instance that satisfies SC 2.4.1 (A mechanism is available to bypass blocks of content that are repeated on multiple web pages), but is not required. Providing visible skip navigation links was considered a difficult requirement for all content at Level A because of the potential for visual clutter making content harder to understand. However, the Working Group recognizes the importance of visible skip navigation for switch users, those using techniques that generate keyboard strokes slowly and others, and have changed the Example 2 in G1 to reflect this. A note has been added which says "NOTE: When possible, a visible link is preferred over a hidden link. Visible links are necessary for those navigating with a keyboard including switch users, those using techniques that generate keyboard strokes slowly, screen magnification software users, screen reader users working with sighted collegues, keyboard only users and those navigating using voice recognition software." tocheck
LC-568 Roger Hudson <rhudson@usability.com.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Guideline 2.5 states, \"Help users avoid mistakes and make it easy to correct mistakes that do occur.\" The Level 1 and Level 2 Success Criteria for this Guideline all appear to be concerned helping people recover from mistakes. The only SC that relates to avoiding mistakes in the first place is a Level 3 criterion.

Proposed Change:

I suggest the Working Group consider including more information on how mistakes can be avoided. At the least, Success Criteria 2.5.4 should be a Level 2 criterion.
We have created a Level AA success criterion intended to help users avoid errors: "Labels or instructions are provided when content requires user input". tocheck
LC-569 Roger Hudson <rhudson@usability.com.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

I have two main concerns with 3.1.5:
First, the nominated Success Criterion is Level 3, which suggests that it is only necessary to \"achieve additional accessibility enhancements\" and does not need to apply to all Web resources (without any indication of the resources it should apply to).
Second, 3.1.5 concentrates solely on a persons reading ability, which is only one of the factors that can influence how well different people with cognitive disabilities or learning difficulties are able to understand a document. For example, what about people who can read well but have considerable difficulty negotiating a complex text-type or comprehending what is written? Or, the additional burden fully justified text and the use of long line lengths can place on many people with reading difficulties?


Proposed Change:

I suggest SC 3.1.5 be a Level 2 criterion at the minimum.
The working group agrees that writing as clearly and simply as possible is highly desirable, but could not find a way to test whether this had been achieved.

The description of conformance levels in WCAG 2 has been rewritten to clarify the levels ( see http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#overview-levels ) :

The word "levels" does not mean that some success criteria are more important than others. Each success criterion in WCAG 2.0 is essential to some users, and the levels build upon each other. However, even content that conforms at AAA (triple-A) may not be fully accessible to every person with a disability.

*In general, Level A success criteria achieve accessibility by supporting assistive technology while putting the fewest possible limits on presentation. Thus people with a wide range of disabilities using a wide range of assistive technologies, from voice input and eye-tracking devices to screen readers and screen magnifiers, are able to access content in different ways. In other words, Level A success criteria support the ability of both mainstream and specialized user agents to adapt content to formats that meet their users' needs.
* The success criteria in Level AA provide additional support for assistive technology. At the same time, they also support direct access to content by the many people who use conventional user agents without assistive technology. In general, Level AA success criteria place more limits on visual presentation and other aspects of content than the success criteria in Level A.
*Level AAA success criteria increase both direct access and access through assistive technology. They place tighter limits on both presentation and content.

Because of the tighter limits that this success criterion places on content, we feel it is appropriate at level AAA.

We have added new success criteria addressing scalability of text:

Level AA: Visually rendered text can be resized without assistive technology up to 200 percent and down to 50 percent without loss of content or functionality.

Level AAA: Visually rendered text can be resized without assistive technology up to 200 percent and down to 50 percent without loss of content or functionality and in a way that does not require the user to scroll horizontally.

In addition, we have added advisory techniques to improve the legibility of text:
- Avoiding justified text
- Providing sufficient inter-line and inter-column spacing
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LC-812 Sailesh Panchang <sailesh.panchang@deque.com> on behalf of Deque Systems Inc (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: GE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Conformance and Definition of L1, L2 and L3 for success criteria
For L1 and L2, the chief distinction is between ‘minimum level’ and ‘enhanced level’ of accessibility as the second factor (reasonably applies to all Web content) is common.
I contend that the terms ‘minimum’ and enhanced’ cannot be viewed in a vacuum without a context. For a user with particular kind of vision impairment (VI), ability to manipulate background / foreground colors may provide minimum accessibility and ability to manipulate text size may provide enhanced level of accessibility. For another person with VI, both or just the second one may be needed to provide minimum accessibility.
Question: So in what context is the level determined?


Proposed Change:

Integrate the baseline into the definition of L1, L2 etc. This will mean that SC at L1 exploit all accessibility features available in the baseline technology and this provides the necessary context.
In doing so the WG will be able to justify its statement: ‘WG believes that all success criteria of WCAG 2.0 are essential for some people’ and yet not say that one checkpoint is more important than another like in WCAG 1.0.

At present obviously an SC at L1 is more important than one at L2 because the former is supposed to provide ‘minimum accessibility’ and a developer will be encouraged to implement these first.
We have completely rewritten the description of levels of conformance(see http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#overview-levels ):

"The word "levels" does not mean that some success criteria are more important than others. Each success criterion in WCAG 2.0 is essential to some users, and the levels build upon each other. However, even content that conforms at AAA (triple-A) may not be fully accessible to every person with a disability.

*In general, Level A success criteria achieve accessibility by supporting assistive technology while putting the fewest possible limits on presentation. Thus people with a wide range of disabilities using a wide range of assistive technologies, from voice input and eye-tracking devices to screen readers and screen magnifiers, are able to access content in different ways. In other words, Level A success criteria support the ability of both mainstream and specialized user agents to adapt content to formats that meet their users' needs.

*The success criteria in Level AA provide additional support for assistive technology. At the same time, they also support direct access to content by the many people who use conventional user agents without assistive technology. In general, Level AA success criteria place more limits on visual presentation and other aspects of content than the success criteria in Level A.

*Level AAA success criteria increase both direct access and access through assistive technology. They place tighter limits on both presentation and content."
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LC-510 Steven Faulkner <steven.faulkner@nils.org.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item: Intent
Comment Type: TE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

The term "programmatically associated" is used but not defined.

Proposed Change:

Provide a definition of "programmatically associated" within Appendix A: Glossary.
We have reworded SC 2.4.4 to clarify its intent and to remove the term "programmatically associated". It now reads:
2.4.4 The purpose of each link can be determined from the link text and its programmatically determined link context.

where "Programmatically determined link context" is defined as:
http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#pdlinkcontextdef

programmatically determined link context
1. Additional information that can be programmatically determined from relationships with a link; and
2. can be extracted, combined with the link text, and presented to users in different modalities.

Example 1: Screen readers provide commands to read the current sentence when focus is on a link.
Example 2: Examples of information that can be extracted, combined with link text, and presented to users in different modalities include text that is in the same sentence, paragraph, list, or table cell as the link or in a table header cell that is associated with the table cell that contains the link.
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LC-1562 Trevor Barton <Trevor.Barton@admin.ox.ac.uk> on behalf of Web Officer, Oxford University, UK (archived comment)
Item number: 3.1.6
Comment type: Editorial

Comment: What is the overlap here to UAAG?

Proposed change: What does the website developer have to do here, and what
does the UA developer have to do?
The website developer must ensure that information about pronunciation is available when it is needed. For most text, the words themselves should be sufficient. However, in cases where there is ambiguity about the pronunciation, or the pronunciation can't be determined from the word at all, pronunciation information must be provided as part of the content.

The User Agent responsibility is to rendered the text as speech, using the information provided.
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LC-604 Wayne Dick <wed@csulb.edu> on behalf of California State University, Long Beach, EOWG Rep (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Rationale: In my experience, simple magnification is not very helpful for reading web pages. Visual readers with print disabilities always need more. Now, lots of software labeled \"screen magnifier\" does more than magnify, but some products just zoom and that is not very helpful. In the WCAG 2.0 Glossary definition of Assistive Technology, the example of screen magnifier is the only remedy given for individuals with partial sight. There are no examples, other than screen readers, given for other print disabled readers who are sighted. I am afraid that developers who want to test WCAG 2.0 compliance will test against screen magnifiers (especially simple zoom magnifiers) and conclude they have met the needs of sighted users with print disabilities. The example does mention change in color, but there are many other style changes that assist visual reading. Also, motor limitations cause some print disability rather than the more common conditions, dyslexia or partial sight. So I suggest the following example. Note: I had no word for this type of technology so I just coined \"Visual Reading Assistants\". Examples of visual reading assistant products are: specialized style sheets, IBM\'s WebAdapt2Me and Home Page Reader and WYNN from Freedom Scientific. I talked to Phill Jenkins from IBM and he suggested \"Reading Assistive Technology\". That\'s good but might seem circular in the definition of assistive technology. There is a significant needs difference between readers with sight who have print disabilities and readers without sight. While screen readers work for both, sighted readers are never trained in Braille so visually accessible text represents the only static medium available for sighted readers with print disabilities. A static reading medium is necessary for serious literature that requires deep concentration. A non-aural medium is also necessary for deaf readers with print disabilities. Zoom technology does not comes close to addressing this need, so I don\'t want developers coming away with the impression that screen magnifiers solve the problem for this population.


Proposed Change:

Change to definition -- Assistive Technology... Example...
Visual Reading Assistants - Several products modify the document styles such as font size and color, spacing of lines, letters and words, and the font family. These products may also synchronize speech with text, reflow large text to fit the page and add keyboard navigations. They are used by print disabled readers who are sighted but who cannot read standard print formats owing to a variety of visual, perceptual or motor limitations.
We have revised the bullet on screen magnifiers in the definition of assistive technology to:
"screen magnifiers and other visual reading assistants, which are used by people with visual, perceptual and physical print disabilities to change text font, size, spacing, color, synchronization with speech, etc in order to improve the visual readability of rendered text and images;"
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LC-714 Wayne Dick <wed@csulb.edu> on behalf of CSU Long Beach (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: GE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Rationale: In the term programmatically determined, the concept of total determinism is not clear enough. There needs to be a clear difference between programmatically determined (recognized by a deterministic algorithm) and non-deterministically accessed by an AI heuristic --as in optical character recognition.

Proposed Change:

Change: In Introduction: Important New Terms Used in WCAG 2.0
Add to the description of programmatically determined…\"This means that the author is responsible for ensuring that the content is delivered in such a way that software can access it [with no chance of error]\". You could also say positively… [with perfect accuracy].
We have clarified the meaning of "programatically determined" in the section on Important New Terms Used in WCAG 2.0. See http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#new-terms . yes
LC-715 Wayne Dick <wed@csulb.edu> on behalf of CSU Long Beach (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Rationale: Often the \"variation in text\" can be determined programmatically but the information this variation conveys cannot.

Proposed Change:

Change: Include the bracketed words…
1.3.4 Information that is conveyed by variations in presentation of text is also conveyed in text, or [the information conveyed by] the variations in presentation of text can be programmatically determined. [How to meet 1.3.4]
SC 1.3.1 and 1.3.4 have been combined to read "Information and relationships conveyed through presentation can be programmatically determined or are available in text, and notification of changes to these is available to user agents, including assistive technologies." This wording ensures that it is the meaning conveyed by the presentation that must be programmatically determined, and allows the author to indicate the meaning in text if it is not feasible to do so programmatically. The How to Meet document describes this in some detail. yes
LC-732 Wayne Dick <wed@csulb.edu> on behalf of CSU Long Beach (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: GE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

I found the definition of Assistive Technology a little unclear. The concept of retrieving data from host agents is difficult. Maybe the attached wording could help.

Assistive technology (in the context of this document)

a user agent that:

1. provides services beyond those offered by the host user agents to meet the requirements of users with disabilities. Additional services include alternative renderings (e.g., as synthesized speech or magnified content), alternative input methods (e.g., voice), additional navigation or orientation mechanisms, and content transformations (e.g., to make tables more accessible).
2.relies on services provided by one or more other \"host\" user agents. Assistive technologies communicate data and messages with host user agents by using and monitoring.APIs.

Note: In this definition the host user agents are user agents in the general sense of the term. The output of host user agents may not be easily read by any humans, but it may provide important services to assistive technologies like retrieving Web content from program objects or parsing markup into identifiable bundles.

Example: Examples of assistive technologies that are important in the context of this document include the following:

* screen magnifiers, which are used by people with visual disabilities to enlarge and change colors on the screen to improve the visual readability of rendered text and images;
* screen readers, which are used by people who are blind or have reading disabilities to read textual information through synthesized speech or braille displays;
* voice recognition software, which may be used by people who have some physical disabilities;
* alternative keyboards, which are used by people with certain physical disabilities to simulate the keyboard;
* alternative pointing devices, which are used by people with certain physical disabilities to simulate mouse pointing and button activations.

Note: This definition is based on User Agent Accessibility Guidelines 1.0 Glossary

Proposed Change:
Thank you for the suggestions for how to improve the definition of Assistive Technology. We have modified the definition based on your suggestions. yes
LC-1312 P.J. Gardner <pjg@gidi.biz> (archived comment)
WAI WCAG 2.0 Working Group:

In an e-mail dated 26 May 2006, called "Extending Deadline on WCAG 2.0 Last
Call Review", Judy Brewer said:

"I encourage you to read the guidelines while they are in Last Call Working
Draft; evaluate them against your own needs and
expectations; then share with the Working Group your comments on what you
think needs to change in the document."

I want to add my voice to the chorus of people responding to the Last Call
Working Draft. I already participated as one of the chief authors in a
subcommittee of the AccessAbility SIG of the Society for Technical
Communication that submitted a response earlier today
(http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006Jun/), but I
also wanted to add some personal notes as a Web Accessibility advocate and
an independent accessible web designer.

I am founder of Boston-IA, a networking organization for web developers, web
authors, and other internet professionals to teach them about accessibility
and advocate to make the web a more accessible place. I am program director
to bring Knowbility's Accessible Internet Rally (AIR) program to Boston in
2007 to teach individual web developers how to build accessible web sites
for non-profit organizations. I am a web accessibility consultant, and I
build accessible web sites for small (very small) businesses and non-profit
organizations with small budgets. I am a career technical communications
professional, I consult with greater Boston businesses in web design and
information architecture, and I am a member of the STC AccessAbility SIG. I
have a graduate certificate in Accessible Web Design from Northeastern
University.

I know how to build an accessible web site, and I understand the new
technologies that we will be struggling with over the next few years. But I
think the new WCAG will not help me advocate for accessibility, assess web
sites for accessibility, train people in accessibility, or teach me, any
more than I learned from WCAG 1.0, how to build accessible web sites or how
to consult with the companies who ask me to help them meet accessibility
standards.

I think that much of the emphasis of the latest draft of the WCAG 2.0 is
focused on the web development efforts of very large corporations and on the
applications that are being developed under the latest technologies. I want
to focus again on the people in the trenches who often perform the work of
accessibility on their own. While the attention of larger organizations may
be focused on accessibility compliance (conformance in WCAG 2.0 language)
because of increasing business pressures, the focus of the small accessible
web developer is on accessibility adherence. Many of us already want to
make web sites accessible, and we need help spreading the word to fellow
standards-based coders.

Independents are looking to the Web Accessibility Initiative and the Web
Content Accessibility Guidelines for guidance, but our needs as developers
are being lost in the shuffle with the new document. This surprises me,
given the large number of members of the International Webmaster
Association/Help Writers Guild (of which I am also a member) in the Working
Group.

The documents are so cumbersome, and the problems are so firmly entrenched
in the current approach, that my comments about individual items in the
basic WCAG 2.0 document will be hard to communicate quickly, although I will
try to address them in separate e-mails about the individual documents that
support the rather slim WCAG 2.0 (which is really just a table of
contents)--one at a time. But the basic approach is flawed, and we cannot
make the documents more usable for the independent web developer without a
major redesign.

Please keep in mind the solo web developer, the independent web
accessibility consultant, the people in small web design firms, and in a
non-profit organizations or educational institutions that may want to meet
accessibility standards but have no budget to undertake months-long
accessibility initiatives. This group needs very basic guidance about how
to build accessible web sites, not guidance on how to comply or how to
establish baseline statements. We need support to keep convincing people
that web accessibility is worth undertaking, even without a big budget or a
huge staff.

Please help us make the World Wide Web more accessible than it is today.

Best Regards,
P.J.

.............................................
P.J. Gardner
Web Accessibility Consultant

Gardner Information Design, Inc. (www.gidi.biz)
Boston-IA (www.boston-ia.org)
AIR-Boston (www.knowbility.org/air-boston)
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It is indeed hard to make a technical reference and a practical user guide in the same doc. Also one for advance technologies that are now appearing on the web and one that works for the bulk of the basic bread and butter web developers.

In the new draft, we have tried to make it much easier to read and understand. We also created a Quick Reference doc that pulls together what developers need most (the basic requirements and the practical techniques for meeting them).

Some other things we have done include:

Addressing users with different expertise levels
- Tried to create language that is simpler to understand but also includes the technical background for those who want to delve into the technical underpinnings.

Testability
- tightening up testability, identifying tools for key hard to measure areas, and having tests for all documented techniques cited as sufficient

Easier language to understand
- Writing simpler guidelines
- Removing as many technical terms (jargon) as possible replacing them with plainer language or, where possible, their definitions
- Eliminating several new or unfamiliar terms. (authored unit, etc.)
- Removing the term Baseline and replacing it with “web technologies that are accessibility supported� and then defining what it means to be accessibility supported.
- Removing the nesting of definitions where we could (i.e. definitions that pointed to other definitions)
- Trying to word things in manners that are more understandable to different levels of Web expertise
- Adding short names/handles on each success criterion to make them easier to find and compare etc.
- Simplifying the conformance section

Shortening the document overall
- Shortening the introduction
- Moving much of the discussion out of the guidelines and into the Understanding WCAG 2.0 document
- Shortening the conformance section and moving it after the guidelines
- Moving information about mapping between WCAG 1 and WCAG 2 to a separate support document (so it can be updated more easily)
Creating a Quick Practitioner-oriented Summary / Checklist-like document
- Creating a Quick Reference document that has just the Guidelines, success criteria and the techniques for meeting the success criteria.

Let us know if the better meets your needs and those of your colleagues.
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LC-984 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
This is a general usability matter; while doing well on this helps PWD, it is not clear that it meets your claimed requirement for inclusion that there be a markedly disproportionate effect on the experience of the PWD user.

Proposed Change:

Re-state filter criterion for practices in terms of "do cover usability enhancements that are readily achievable and make major contributions to mitigating PWD hazards in the browse experience. But generally good usability practices that have a generally comparable benefit for PWD and TAB users are not covered here." I.e. lead with positive because navigation, view controls, and labeling/prompting are general usability strategies and are of the essence in securing a Web that works for PWD.
Thank you for your comment. We have adopted your proposed wording in the Introduction.

SC 3.2.4 explicitly outlines benefits to people with disabilities in the "Intent of this success criterion" section of How To Meet SC 3.2.4. The intent of this success criterion is to ensure consistent identification of functional components that appear repeatedly within a set of Web pages. A strategy that people who use screen readers use when operating a Web site is to rely heavily on their familiarity with functions that may appear on different Web pages. If identical functions have different labels on different Web pages, the site will be considerably more difficult to use. It may also be confusing and increase the cognitive load for people with cognitive limitations. Therefore, consistent labeling will help.
yes
LC-1205 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
Seizures are actual harm to the user independent of whether there is any value in the Web content there to be accessed. True, the seizures can prevent access to value in the content but before one even gets there there is harm done.

Proposed Change:

Break out a separate "first, do no harm" principle and put 2.3 under it. Introduce no impediments to people citing or implementing this provision as severable from any of the rest.
This makes sense, but we don't want to have a principle with only one provision under it. We have, however, added the following conformance criterion:

Non-Interference: Use of any technologies that are not accessibility-supported content technologies does not interfere with use of the accessibility-supported content technologies used to conform to these guidelines. Specifically, content meets the following criteria even if the content uses non-accessibility-supported technologies:
1. No Keyboard Trap: If focus can be moved to technologies that are not accessibility supported using a keyboard interface, then focus can be moved away from that content using only a keyboard interface, and the method for doing so is described before the content is encountered and in a way that meets all Level A success criteria.
2. Flash Threshold: To minimize the risk of seizures due to photosensitivity, content does not contain anything that flashes more than three times in any one second period, or the flash is below the general flash and red flash thresholds (see Success Criterion 2.3.1).
3. Non support: The content continues to meet the conformance requirements when the (non accessibility-supported) technology is turned on, turned off, or is not supported by a user agent.
yes
LC-1207 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
Compatibility with the future is a guaranteed "cannot complete a valid Candidate Recommendation" clause.

PF definitely sympathizes with your desire to have the content create a responsible document object model regardless of the AT uptake of the information at the moment. We want that to. But the way to achieve this is to have a concrete proposition as to the information that has to be available in machinable form; not to say "anything the user may infer from the rendered content must be encoded in a machine-recognizable notation." That isn't going to work. The way to success is, for example, take a label. The requirement here is indicated by the dialog:

Q1: Can the user do something, here?
A1: Yes.
Q2: what can they do?
A2: <action>
Q3: what in the user experience tells them that?
A3: This <label>.

If the association of A3 as label for the action is machine recognizable, and the user should be able to recognize A2 from A3, then we are done.

That is the general pattern to be replicated across the essential information to answer questions of

"Where am I?"

"What is _there_?"

"What can I do?"

.. at a fine enough grain so that
the answers are always in the context
that the use can recall or associate
with their current place-in-browse (e.g. focussed object or reading cursor).

Proposed Change:

Build on contribution expected from IBM as to how to reword 4.1. We need to connect several things: information required for an 'informed' user browse; machinable notations so UA can map to API the AT understands; format specs that afford the ability to have a shared understanding among author, author-automation, user-automation, and user.

Spell out information requirements in Principle 3 -- what the user needs to be able to understand (including about what they can do).
Thank you for your comment. We have removed the phrase to read: "The goal of this approach makes it possible to apply WCAG 2.0 to a variety of situations and technologies."

We have also added a section to Understanding WCAG 2.0 titled, "Understanding the Four Principles of Accessibility." which includes additional explanation about the principles.
yes
LC-1209 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
This document is trying to be universal in two many dimensions at once. What results is impenetrable access-babble.

Proposed Change:

*executive summary*

break down the cases addressed by assertions (guidelines, success criteria, and testable assertions in test methods) using sub-categories both of content and of presentation.

- content: genre and task

genre: distinguish narratives, grids, mash-ups, etc. (see details for more).

task: navigating passive content, interacting wth atomic controls, interacting with composite widgets, following multi-stage tasks, checkout from a business process, etc.

- presentation: specialization of the delivery context, describably using terms such as in the W3C Delivery Context Overview and the IMS Global Learning Consortium Accessibility Specification terms for user preferences.

*details*

Testable assertions should come in collections of test conditions that have the same content presented in multiple alternate look-and-feel adaptations. Check multiple assertions in each of these renderings. Don't try to make things universal across prsentation and testable at the same time where that is hard. Allow yourself the ability to say "Must A under condition B and must C under condition D, etc."

This is particularly applicable to the suitability of requred text explanations. It is possible by controlling the exposure of the content to the tester through a prescribed dialog to make all necessary judgements determinable by a lay person; not an accessibility-knowledgeable individual. We need to get there or go home.

The second axis of particularization that has been missed and needs to be put to use is the classification of content by task and genre or structural texture. The structure classes:

- bag (collection of random-category items)

- collection (collection of like-category items)

- list (collection of items with an intrinsic semantic order -- alphabetical does not count)

- narrative (stream of text etc. that tells a coherent tale)

- tree (collection of content with embedded smaller, tighter collections)

- grid (two-dimensional array of content fragments)

- graph (collection of articulable objects linked by significant relationships)

.. these are structure classes that apply to regions in the content, and guide the applicability of information requirements -- each of these cases has its own proper short list of what needs to be in the "what user needs to be able to understand -- through user comprehensible media connected by machine-comprehensible associations."

Likewise if we break out tasks such as:

- managing navigation within the page

- managing navigation around the site

- interacting with an atomic control

- interacting with a composite control (HTML forms and Windows Combo Boxes and Dialogs are examples of the latter).

- money-free On Line Transaction Processing -- getting something to happen at or through the server site.

- money-involving OLTP

- security-sensitive OLTP

We will have a much better handle on what the requirements are for the content.
Thank you for your comment. Much of what you propose here would require a complete restructuring of the document or changing it into a note. Without a concrete restructuring proposal that shows how this would happen without creating other problems, we are not able to evaluate this clearly. If there are specific changes that you could suggest particularly around your idea of providing additional information on scope or application of success criteria and techniques we would be very happy to consider them as we move forward on evolving the understanding and techniques documents. We will also keep these comments in mind as we are working on these documents and trying to provide such information as we identify it ourselves. yes
LC-1217 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
One can reasonably interpret what the Web Characterization Terminology meant by "simultaneously" to mean "concurrently." The point is that your concept is their concept, you are just straining at gnats over the term 'simultaneously' as if it implies 'instantaneously.'

You just don't know how much street cred you lose by using funny-money terms like "web unit" when what you mean is what the web designer means by a "web page."

Proposed Change:

Use "web page."

State that the concept is essentially the same as in the Web Characterization Terminology.

Add something on the order of "Owing to the increasingly dynamic nature of web pages today, one would be more likely to say 'rendered concurrently' rather than 'rendered simultaneously' so people don't think that there has to be an instant rendering of a static page. The requirement is that fluctuations in the page view take place in a context which is stable enough so that the user's perception is that they are in the same place.
We have revised the guidelines and eliminated the word "Web unit" in favor of "Web page." We have defined "Web page" as follows (see http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#webpagedef ):

Web page

a resource that is referenced by a URI and is not embedded in another resource, plus any other resources that are used in the rendering or intended to be rendered together with it

Note: Although any "other resources" would be rendered together with the primary resource, they would not necessarily be rendered simultaneously with each other.

Example 1: When you enter http://shopping.example.com/ in your browser you enter a movie-like interactive shopping environment where you visually move about a store dragging products off of the shelves around you into a visual shopping cart in front of you. Clicking on a product causes it to be demonstrated with a specification sheet floating alongside.

Example 2: A Web resource including all embedded images and media.

Example 3: A Web mail program built using Asynchronous JavaScript and XML (AJAX). The program lives entirely at http://mail.example.com, but includes an inbox, a contacts area and a calendar. Links or buttons are provided that cause the the inbox, contacts, or calendar to display, but do not change the URL of the page as a whole.

Example 4: A customizable portal site, where users can choose content to display from a set of different content modules.
yes
LC-1219 Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> (archived comment)
criterion is the singular of criteria. criteria is a plural noun.

Proposed Change:

use 'criterion' where singular is meant.
Thanks. We have updated the draft accordingly. yes
LC-923 Andi Snow-Weaver <andisnow@us.ibm.com> on behalf of IBM (archived comment)
"The document states: ""The author is responsible for ensuring that the content is delivered in such a way that software can access it.""

""Software"" is confusing here. What type of software are you referring to?"

Proposed Change:

Change

""The author is responsible for ensuring that the content is delivered in such a way that software can access it.""

to

""The author is responsible for ensuring that the content is delivered in such a way that user agents and assistive technologies can access it.""
We have revised this sentence to read as follows:

This means that the content is delivered in such a way that user agents, including assistive technologies, can access the information.
yes
LC-925 Andi Snow-Weaver <andisnow@us.ibm.com> on behalf of IBM (archived comment)
How should we classify an interactive multimedia game that is continuously drawing to a visual canvas? Is this pre-recorded or live multimedia?
We have added a note to the SC:

Note: If multimedia is completely computer generated, it is not live and is subject to the requirements for pre-recorded multimedia in WCAG 2.0.
yes
LC-929 Andi Snow-Weaver <andisnow@us.ibm.com> on behalf of IBM (archived comment)
The definition of Web unit may not work for SVG.
We have modified the term "Web unit" to be "Web page" and have updated the definition, http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#webpagedef .

Web page

a resource that is referenced by a URI and is not embedded in another resource, plus any other resources that are used in the rendering or intended to be rendered together with it

Note: Although any "other resources" would be rendered together with the primary resource, they would not necessarily be rendered simultaneously with each other.

Example 1: When you enter http://shopping.example.com/ in your browser you enter a movie-like interactive shopping environment where you visually move about a store dragging products off of the shelves around you into a visual shopping cart in front of you. Clicking on a product causes it to be demonstrated with a specification sheet floating alongside.

Example 2: A Web resource including all embedded images and media.

Example 3: A Web mail program built using Asynchronous JavaScript and XML (AJAX). The program lives entirely at http://mail.example.com, but includes an inbox, a contacts area and a calendar. Links or buttons are provided that cause the the inbox, contacts, or calendar to display, but do not change the URL of the page as a whole.

Example 4: A customizable portal site, where users can choose content to display from a set of different content modules.
yes
LC-931 Andi Snow-Weaver <andisnow@us.ibm.com> on behalf of IBM (archived comment)
Some technologies, such as SVG, do not have a way to specify the language of the document.
It is our understanding that SVG 1.1 (2003) has xml:lang on many elements including svg, title, text, tspan and textpath. SVG 1.0 (2001) has xml:lang on many elements including svg, g, title, text, tspan, textpath and a. This success criterion could be met by adding xml:lang to the svg element.

If any technology cannot specify the language used, it may be necessary to embed them in a technology that does provide this support, such as HTML. Or such technologies might not be considered accessibility-supported until they did provide such a mechanism.
yes
LC-936 Andi Snow-Weaver <andisnow@us.ibm.com> on behalf of IBM (archived comment)
SVG is not likely to be compliant in its current form.
It is the working group's opinion that this is best handled from the SVG end and doesn't impact the WCAG document itself. From our discussion I take it you agree but that you were just pointing this out in an informative way and are not asking for action on the part of the WCAG WG. yes
LC-1261 Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@visionaustralia.org> on behalf of Vision Australia (archived comment)
Comment: para 1 says "as a result authoring tools WILL play an important role ..." - implying a future role for authoring at some time in the future. Authoring tolls paly an important role NOW.

Proposed Change:

change wording to "as a result authoring tools play an important role ..."
This was meant to refer to the future when WCAG 2.0 was out. But this wording should be written to match that future. The draft has been updated as proposed. Good catch. yes
LC-1262 Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@visionaustralia.org> on behalf of Vision Australia (archived comment)
Comment: para 2 talks about ATAG 1.0 and ATAG 2.0 in relation to the current date. This sentence will date rapidly depending on the relative releases of WCAG 2.0 and ATAG 2.0.

Proposed Change:

change wording to reflect the 'current' ATAG release - possibly by specifying ATAG 1.0 release year and just saying that ATAG 2.0 is due for release in 200x (x = 6/7/8??)
Direct discussion of the role of authoring tools has been removed from WCAG. The Components of Web Accessibility section directs readers to the ATAG overview. yes
LC-1263 Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@visionaustralia.org> on behalf of Vision Australia (archived comment)
Comment: the term 'web unit' needs some examples about when the term 'web page' may not apply

Proposed Change:

add some examples to "..may not apply" such as 'webcast' or 'multimedia object'
We have replaced the term "Web unit" with "Web page" and have modified the section on new terms, http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#new-terms, to describe our use of the term "Web page" in greater detail. We have also added an example of content that may not immediately be recognized as a "Web page." See http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#webpagedef .

Web page

a resource that is referenced by a URI and is not embedded in another resource, plus any other resources that are used in the rendering or intended to be rendered together with it

Note: Although any "other resources" would be rendered together with the primary resource, they would not necessarily be rendered simultaneously with each other.

Example 1: When you enter http://shopping.example.com/ in your browser you enter a movie-like interactive shopping environment where you visually move about a store dragging products off of the shelves around you into a visual shopping cart in front of you. Clicking on a product causes it to be demonstrated with a specification sheet floating alongside.

Example 2: A Web resource including all embedded images and media.

Example 3: A Web mail program built using Asynchronous JavaScript and XML (AJAX). The program lives entirely at http://mail.example.com, but includes an inbox, a contacts area and a calendar. Links or buttons are provided that cause the the inbox, contacts, or calendar to display, but do not change the URL of the page as a whole.

Example 4: A customizable portal site, where users can choose content to display from a set of different content modules.
yes
LC-1268 Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@visionaustralia.org> on behalf of Vision Australia (archived comment)
Comment: Note (para 5) - reads like an 'out' - could be taken to give developers the option of using any technique they deem to be accessible, regardless of how a PWD uses the web

Proposed Change:

Strengthen/change the Note to make it clearer what a developer is expected to do. No concrete suggestion.
The Working Group is not in a position to identify all possible techniques in all possible technologies that could be used to satisfy a success criterion, particularly as user agents and assistive technology continue to evolve. The sufficient techniques are listed to provide developers with guidance on approaches that are known to be acceptable. A developer who uses a different technique needs to justify how that technique is sufficient for the success criterion. We have added the following sentence to the paragraph to emphasize that this should not be done lightly:

"When using such externally-provided techniques to meet WCAG 2.0 requirements, it is important that they be created by individuals or organizations who are knowledgeable about the requirements of WCAG 2.0 and the needs of people with disabilities."
yes
LC-1271 Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@visionaustralia.org> on behalf of Vision Australia (archived comment)
Comment: para 2 - "browser" is used - should it be "user agent"?

Proposed Change:

consider changing sentence "since some users many have user agents that support them"
Thanks. This section has been completely rewritten and this error removed. yes
LC-1272 Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@visionaustralia.org> on behalf of Vision Australia (archived comment)
Comment: para 1 - I didn't understand "customers" setting baselines - for a large organisation doing it's own development, the concept of its 'customers' setting the basleine is ridiculous

Proposed Change:

openiong sentence may need clarification

Also - 'governmental' does not seem right, should it just be 'government'?
The conformance section of WCAG2 has been completely rewritten. The term "baseline" has been replaced by "accessibility-supported web technologies". The issue of what it means to be an accessibility-supported web technology is addressed in the section "Accessibility Support of Web Technologies" at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#accessibility-support .

WCAG doesn't specify who might set create a documented lists of accessibility-supported Web Technologies. It describes the requirements for a technology to be considered accessibility supported. Although the author is responsible for choosing accessibility-supported technologies, we recognize that extensive knowledge of the capabilities of user agents and assistive technologies is needed to make this choice. We hope that knowledgeable organizations will become repositories of this knowledge and make it available to authors so that they can make well-grounded choices.
yes
LC-1277 Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@visionaustralia.org> on behalf of Vision Australia (archived comment)
Comment: Para one is all abut working group process - leave out

The second para in this section opens with stuff about W3C (working group) process - it doesn't seem to belong here at all

Proposed Change:

Reconsider this whole section - TR readers don't need to know about the workings or history of the working group.
We have modified the document as you suggested. yes
LC-1278 Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@visionaustralia.org> on behalf of Vision Australia (archived comment)
Comment: Some screen readers do not recognise addition levels of <TH> within a data table.

Proposed Change:

Split Comparison table into a series of tables at each <TH> row. Also better for printing when browsers support CSS 'keep with next' approach in print stylesheet.
The mapping has been removed from the WCAG document itself so that it will be easier to maintain over time and to reflect new techniques as they come out. The working group will work in coordination with the EOWG WCAG 2.0 Materials Support Task Force in the creation of transition materials and will consider these comments when the mapping is updated. yes
LC-1281 Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@visionaustralia.org> on behalf of Vision Australia (archived comment)
Comment: "If text alternatives cannot serve the same purpose, then text alternatives at least identify the purpose of the non-text content." Surely in this case the content has failed SC 1.1.1?

Proposed Change:

leave the second sentence out!
Thank you for pointing out this issue with the wording of the first bullet in SC 1.1.1. The intent of the second sentence, as explained in the How to Meet SC 1.1.1 document, is to cover cases such as a test where a particular sense must be used or where content is designed to create a specific sensory experience. We have modified the success criteria to clarify this. yes
LC-1282 Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@visionaustralia.org> on behalf of Vision Australia (archived comment)
Comment: "If the purpose of non-text content is to confirm that content is being operated by a person rather than a computer, different forms are provided to accommodate multiple disabilities."

Proposed Change:

"If the purpose of non-text content is to confirm that content is being ?accessed? by a person rather than a computer, different forms are provided to accommodate multiple disabilities."
Thank you for suggesting this change. We have implemented your suggestion. yes
LC-1286 Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@visionaustralia.org> on behalf of Vision Australia (archived comment)
Comment: Under the new Conformance level definitions, I strongly suggest that 1.4.1 & 1.4.2 should be Level 1 and that 1.4.3 & 1.4.4 should be Level 2

Proposed Change:

reconsider the Levels the SC fall under - move them up a level
The description of conformance levels in WCAG 2 has been rewritten to clarify the levels (see http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#overview-levels ).

Because background audio can interfere with assistive technology, SC 1.4.1 (formerly 1.4.2) has been moved to level A.

Because level A attempts to put the fewest possible limitations on presentation, and because assistive technology will be able to present the text or text equivalents of this content to the user, the working group felt that SC 1.4.2 (formerly 1.4.1) was most appropriate at level AA.

Because of the additional limitations they put on presentation, the working group felt that SC 1.4.4 (formerly 1.4.3) and SC 1.4.5 (formerly 1.4.4) are most appropriate at level AAA.
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LC-1290 Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@visionaustralia.org> on behalf of Vision Australia (archived comment)
Comment: What is the difference between 2.4.4 & 2.4.8? They seem very similar.
We have reworded SC 2.4.4 to clarify its intent and to remove the term "programmatically associated". It now reads:
2.4.4 The purpose of each link can be determined from the link text and its programmatically determined link context.

where "Programmatically determined link context" is defined at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#pdlinkcontextdef as:

programmatically determined link context
1. Additional information that can be programmatically determined from relationships with a link; and
2. can be extracted, combined with the link text, and presented to users in different modalities.

Example 1: Screen readers provide commands to read the current sentence when focus is on a link.

Example 2: Examples of information that can be extracted, combined with link text, and presented to users in different modalities include text that is in the same sentence, paragraph, list, or table cell as the link or in a table header cell that is associated with the table cell that contains the link.
yes
LC-1296 Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@visionaustralia.org> on behalf of Vision Australia (archived comment)
Comment: needs a qualifier

Proposed Change:

change wording to "The natural language of each passage or phrase in the Web unit can be programmatically determined when it differes from the natural language of the web unit"
The working group believes that current wording of the success criterion is sufficient, since the default human language is used for any text that does not otherwise have a language specified. We have rewritten the Intent section of How To Meet 3.1.2 to make this clearer. yes
LC-525 anthony <abrewitt@googlemail.com> on behalf of designbit.co.uk (archived comment)
Item Number: Important New Terms Used in WCAG 2.0
Part of Item:
Comment Type: GE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

Very simple really; WCAG guidelines language is too technical and very hard to follow, never mind tweaking a web page to adhere to these standards, if you want universality you should write in a accessible language.

Proposed Change:

use common understandable language for 2.0!
We understand that the language is technical in places. We have tried to make it as easy to read as possible while still being technology independent and accurate. It is very hard. We have made some changes again in response to last call comments. Suggestions are always welcome. tocheck
LC-1330 Art Wagner <zllrwgnr@yahoo.com> (archived comment)
I have supported WCAG 1 and have implemented its guidelines in the sites I build. The guidelines were relatively easy to understand and implement.

My eyes glaze over looking at the massive volumes produced to explain WCAG 2. Isn't the purpose of WCAG 2 to promote website accessibility? If these bloated, dense, inscrutable texts are approved, WCAG 2 risks becoming utterly irrelevant to small to medium web development shops. Accessibility will suffer.

Let's do the right thing and rework these guidelines for usability. We've got to make them easy for developers to understand and use.

Art Zoller Wagner www.DigitalDesign.us
We have reworked the entire document to make it shorter and easier to read. This includes:
- Shortening the introduction
- Moving much of the discussion out of the guidelines and puttin it in the Understanding WCAG 2.0 document
- Shortening the conformance section and moving it after the guidelines
- Writing simpler guidelines
- Removing as many technical terms (jargon) as possible, replacing them with simpler language or their definitions
- Removing the nesting of definitions where we could (i.e. definitions that pointed to other definitions)
- Moving information about mapping between WCAG 1 and WCAG 2 to a separate support document (so it can be updated more easily)
- Creating a Quick Reference documents that has just the Guidelines, success criteria and the techniques for meeting the success criteria.
- Trying to word things in manners that are more understandable to different levels of Web expertise
- Adding short names/handles on each success criterion to make them easier to find and compare etc.
- Simplifying the conformance section
- Using plainer language wherever possible (e.g. – use “Web page� instead of “Web Unit�)
- Eliminating several new or unfamiliar terms. (authored unit, etc.)
- Making the whole document much shorter.
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LC-1332 Arun Ranganathan <arunranga@aol.com> on behalf of Advisory Committee Representative to the W3C for AOL LLC (archived comment)
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

The purpose of the following LC Comment is to highlight issues that we believe warrant further consideration by the Web Content Accessibility working group before assigning a Level 1 requirement to Guideline 1.2.1: "captions are provided for prerecorded multimedia," particularly as the WAI's Web Content Accessibility guidelines are used as the benchmark for web accessibility by government and other policy-making bodies.

AOL LLC fully understands and supports the need for captioned multimedia, and we do provide the same on several of our highly trafficked areas. AOL was the first commercial Internet Service Provider to offer captioned video. Today, we provide captions for two cartoon series "Princess Natasha" and "SKWOD" on KOL, AOL's online channel for kids ages 6-12, and on video help tutorials developed for the AOL 9.0 software. Additionally, we are currently testing delivery of captioned news and entertainment content through our video portal. We continue to work hard at this area, and plan on announcing further such developments as they take place.

Technologies such as SMIL, Microsoft's SAMI and Apple’s QuickTime all enable display of closed captions on multimedia, and tools like Caption Keeper from the WGBH Media Access Group can be used to repurpose Line 21 television caption data. However, AOL's research to date shows that the acquisition process and production model for the majority of video content distributed by commercial Internet portals such as AOL LLC does not support cost-effective and efficient processes for delivery of closed captions in a timely manner. A collaborative effort between the Internet industry, content producers and web accessibility experts is required to develop solutions before commercial web portals can fully conform to this Level 1 requirement to caption prerecorded multimedia. Guideline 1.2.1 assumes that the web site displaying the multimedia content is the producer of the content. What is not considered is the barriers created by the process of acquiring repurposed third party content, or who is responsible for captioning content produced by a third party and distributed via multiple web sites/services. While AOL LLC has made substantial progress towards captioning of our video content, there are three barriers inhibiting AOL LLC's goal of complete conformance to a Level 1 success criteria:

i. Internet production units of broadcast networks prepare the content for streaming before the content is captioned, usually in real time. For example, field packages produced for TV networks' nightly newscasts are often streamed before they air. As a result, Internet portals receive the video asset too far up stream in the content production workflow. This presents two possible scenarios:

- A content aggregator (Internet portal such as AOL's) needs to manually caption a video stream produced and owned by a separate content provider. Neither is this scalable, nor are vendor solutions robust enough at this point (e.g leveraging a programmed transcript which only provides the text of the audio, and excludes ambient sounds and time stamp data).

- Captions are added to the streaming video long after it has been published to the web site assuming the portal and partner repurpose the captions originally created during the TV broadcast. This is problematic as some videos have a very short shelf life.

ii. Lack of information on the whereabouts of existing caption files when broadcast content is repurposed for the Internet. There is an increasing amount of "video on demand" products online that allow people to view archives of current or old TV series, movies, music videos, short films, etc. It is very likely that most of the content has been captioned. Unfortunately there isn't a central database that Internet portals or content partners can search to locate the caption agency who captioned a particular season of a show. It is important to note that the content provider to the portal may not always be the content producer or the entity responsible for captioning the content for television.

iii. Need for a common delivery protocol. Commercial Internet portals receive video from many of the same content providers (broadcast networks, etc.). Internet production units are generally very small in terms of staff so delivering multiple text formats to multiple portals is not feasible. Solutions are required to ensure content providers can deliver caption data in an efficient, cost-effective manner. This is a solvable problem, but identifying solutions will require cooperation from many players.

AOL LLC proposes changing the Level 1 Success Criteria for Guideline 1.2, namely 1.2.1 and 1.2.2, to Level 2 Success Criteria. This change reflects the ground realities of being a content aggregator on the Web. This proposal is necessitated by the current reality that content aggregators on the Web partner with multiple content providers. Issues such as who is responsible for producing captions, delivery of caption text files and other barriers described above must be addressed before policy-making bodies can effectively leverage this guideline. Alternatively, we recommend adding language which recognizes the current barriers to wide scale availability of captions for prerecorded multimedia, and encourages development of solutions to resolve them.
The working group considered carefully the levels assigned to all the GL 1.2 success criteria. SC 1.2.1 and 1.2.2 are level A success criteria because vision and hearing impaired users will not be able to access multimedia without this information. SC 1.2.2 can be satisfied by a full transcript. But captioning is a much better augmentation for the deaf than a separate transcript, since much can be communicated non-verbally, even when there is no action.

The working group acknowledges that current acquisition process and production model for the much of the video content distributed by commercial Internet portals creates a problem in creating captions for time-sensitive material in a timely manner, and that this may present a near term barrier for multimedia that is time-sensitive.

However, without captions individuals who are deaf or hard-of-hearing cannot access multimedia, and AT cannot compensate for lack of captions. There are other alternatives, like full text alternatives, but they face similar issues and are less useful to people who are deaf. WCAG conformance is also based on the state of the content, not the process by which it is produced. Captioning therefore belongs at Level A.

We have added the following language to How To Meet SC 1.2.1 that recognizes the current barriers to captions.

"It is acknowledged that at the present time there may be difficulty in creating captions for time sensitive material and this may result in the author being faced with the choice of delaying the information until captions are available, or publishing time-sensitive content that is inaccessible to the deaf, at least for the interval until captions are available. Over time, the tools for captioning as well as building the captioning into the delivery process can shorten or eliminate such delays."
yes
LC-683 Bruno von Niman <ANEC_W3CRep_Bruno@vonniman.com> on behalf of ANEC (ANEC-ICT-2006-W3C-006) (archived comment)
Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

(European) cultural diversity issues should be
addressed in more detail and be included as
conformance criteria (e.g. image texts)

Proposed Change:

WCAG 2.0 should provide at least cross-references to
other work addressing multicultural issues related to
accessibility, more than Japanese and Chinese
Many of the suggestions you provide appear to be cultural accommodations and the accessibility implications are not always clear. We have adapted some of your suggestions as advisory techniques for Guideline 3.1 and have added the following placeholder to How to Meet Guideline 3.1:

Setting expectations about auto-generated or user-contributed content (future link)
yes
LC-684 Bruno von Niman <ANEC_W3CRep_Bruno@vonniman.com> on behalf of ANEC (ANEC-ICT-2006-W3C-006) (archived comment)
Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

Learning disabilities and cognitive limitations are not
addressed! This may be perceived as usability issues
but we believe the consumer should not have to
know the difference between usability and accessibi-
lity! Older consumers, a numerous part of the EU
population, will face severe problems!

Proposed Change:

Should be covered by the WCAG 2.0 documents.
Otherwise, the opposite must be explicitely claimed,
to avoid misunderstandings.
Another option would be to continue work on a set of
extension guidelines to address these needs.
We have added language to the Introduction, the Conformance section, and the Quick Reference to highlight the fact that WCAG 2 only addresses some of the needs of people with cognitive, learning, and language disabilities, and to call out the need for more research in this area. WAI is exploring ways in which to support and encourage work in this important area.

We have added some best practices for cognitive, learning, and language disabilities as advisory techniques, and we have proposed 3 new success criteria in this area.
yes
LC-685 Bruno von Niman <ANEC_W3CRep_Bruno@vonniman.com> on behalf of ANEC (ANEC-ICT-2006-W3C-006) (archived comment)
Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

Accessibility of the mobile Web should be covered
better

Proposed Change:

Mobile Web accessibility issues should be more
detailed and the cross-referencing with the Mobile
Web Best Practices made more detailed
We are considering adding a section in Understanding WCAG 2.0 that would cover "other benefits". If we do we will include the benefits and similarities with Mobile Web in this section. There has been some discussion however, that we should not include broader benefits in the documents and that we should stick just to the accessibility issues. The "other benefits section" would allow us to keep the focus on disability while acknowledging the broader implications. Since this work would not affect the WCAG 2.0 Guidelines document, we have postponed making this decision. yes
LC-686 Bruno von Niman <ANEC_W3CRep_Bruno@vonniman.com> on behalf of ANEC (ANEC-ICT-2006-W3C-006) (archived comment)
Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

Training and educational packages should be
developed for designers and developers

Proposed Change:

Should be developed and cover the typical segments
of designer groups
This is outside the scope (charter) of the WCAG working group. However we are working with the Education and Outreach (EO) working group that is developing such materials." yes
LC-689 Bruno von Niman <ANEC_W3CRep_Bruno@vonniman.com> on behalf of ANEC (ANEC-ICT-2006-W3C-006) (archived comment)
Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

We would like to see WCAG 2.0 applied to as many
non-public (or "commercial") sites as possible

Proposed Change:

The use of language and terminoology should be
simple and as free of technical jargong as possible

The navigation between the various documents
should be simplified (now far too complex)
We have reworked the entire document to make it shorter and easier to read. This includes:
- Shortening the introduction
- Moving much of the discussion out of the guidelines and puttin it in the Understanding WCAG 2.0 document
- Shortening the conformance section and moving it after the guidelines
- Writing simpler guidelines
- Removing as many technical terms (jargon) as possible, replacing them with simpler language or their definitions
- Removing the nesting of definitions where we could (i.e. definitions that pointed to other definitions)
- Moving information about mapping between WCAG 1 and WCAG 2 to a separate support document (so it can be updated more easily)
- Creating a Quick Reference documents that has just the Guidelines, success criteria and the techniques for meeting the success criteria.
- Trying to word things in manners that are more understandable to different levels of Web expertise
- Adding short names/handles on each success criterion to make them easier to find and compare etc.
- Simplifying the conformance section
- Using plainer language wherever possible (e.g. – use “Web page�? instead of “Web Unit�?)
- Eliminating several new or unfamiliar terms. (authored unit, etc.)
- Making the whole document much shorter.
yes
LC-694 Bruno von Niman <ANEC_W3CRep_Bruno@vonniman.com> on behalf of ANEC (ANEC-ICT-2006-W3C-006) (archived comment)
Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

A Table of Content should be added to all documents
to simplify THE navigation of printed documents

Proposed Change:

The question is how to add it for print-outs, supporting
page numbers
When the guidelines are complete, a print version (PostScript and PDF) will be available. This version will include a printable table of contents and references to printed page numbers. yes
LC-696 Bruno von Niman <ANEC_W3CRep_Bruno@vonniman.com> on behalf of ANEC (ANEC-ICT-2006-W3C-006) (archived comment)
Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

ANEC would like to encourage the early translation of
the WCAG 2.0 documents to all official EU languages

Proposed Change:

The EC and their Translation services could be
approached and the W3C translation process, now
well in place, applied?
A number of unofficial translations have already been created for working drafts of WCAG 2.0 and are available on the working group's homepage at http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/#translations. The W3C actively encourages individuals and organizations to participate in the process of creating translations.

Note: for those interested in creating translations, please see the W3C Translations page at http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Translation/. WCAG 2.0 translations are not currently indexed at this location. However, as the document matures we expect to include our translations in this location resource.
yes
LC-697 Bruno von Niman <ANEC_W3CRep_Bruno@vonniman.com> on behalf of ANEC (ANEC-ICT-2006-W3C-006) (archived comment)
Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

The comment provision form is not usable- see
this sheet

Proposed Change:

The Excel sheet needs considerable improvements
(e.g. text string input limitations)
Yes, Excel does give error messages if you try to type too much into a cell. It will take much more than it says it will. For those with long comments, we provided several methods for commenting. We also changed the instructions to make it clearer that comments can be sent in using the on line form, sheets or by sending an open email to the public comments list. yes
LC-879 Christophe Strobbe <christophe.strobbe@esat.kuleuven.be> on behalf of DocArch - K.U.Leuven (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: question
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Please define or point to criteria for \"high inter-rater reliability\". This is important for developing evaluation procedures based on WCAG 2.0 (especially evaluation procedures that can be repeated with the same results for the same content, although, after reading http://www.socialresearchmethods.net/kb/reltypes.htm and http://www2.chass.ncsu.edu/garson/pa765/reliab.htm, inter-rater reliability is not the same thing as test-retest reliability).

There was an action item for research on inter-rater reliability (http://www.w3.org/2005/04/27-wai-wcag-minutes.html#item02) but I don\'t know what came out of it.

Proposed Change:
Inter-rater reliability is the extent to which multiple evaluators of a task or performance give identical ratings. This is often measured by Cohen's kappa, where 0 indicates agreement due to chance alone and 1 indicating perfect agreement. See http://www.measurementexperts.org/instrument/term_pocket_terms.asp

Test-retest refers to the ability of the same person to come up with the same results each time they rate something.

Inter-rater reliability is a tougher standard than test-retest.

We no longer use this term in WCAG 2.0. Instead, we have revised this section to say "The same results should be obtained with a high level of confidence when people who understand how people with different types of disabilities use the Web test the same content."
yes
LC-881 Christophe Strobbe <christophe.strobbe@esat.kuleuven.be> on behalf of DocArch - K.U.Leuven (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: substantive
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Item 4 of \'optional components of a conformance claim\' reads: \"A list of user agents that the content has been tested on. This *should* include assistive technologies\" (emphasis added).
\'Should\' is not a very useful verb in optional information: it boils down to a non-requirement within a non-requirement.

Proposed Change:

Replace item 4 of \'optional components of a conformance claim\' with: \"A list of user agents, including assistive technologies, that the content has been tested on.\"
The draft has been updated as proposed. yes
LC-1471 Christophe Strobbe <christophe.strobbe@esat.kuleuven.be> on behalf of Katholieke Universiteit Leuven (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: editorial
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

While translating the guidelines into Dutch (http://purl.org/NET/error404/xp/wcag20/WD-WCAG20-20060427/guidelines.html) I ran into the following problem: \"legal\" (in SC 2.5.3) can be translated into Dutch as:
- \"wettig\" (compliant with the law, as opposed to \"illegal\", or
- \"wettelijk\" (described in law).
I picked the second meaning, but it would be clearer if the SC said: \"commitments recognized by the law\" or \"legal commitments\" instead of \"legal transactions\".

Proposed Change:

Reword SC 2.5.3 from \"For forms that cause legal or financial transactions to occur ...\" to \"For forms that cause legal commitments or financial transactions to occur ...\" or to \"For forms that cause commitments recognized by the law, that cuase financial transactions to occur ...\".

Alternatively/additionally, clarify \"legal transaction\" (or the substituted term) in HtM 2.5.3, with something like:
\"Legal transactions are transactions where the person incurs a legally binding obligation or benefit (a marriage license, a stock trade (financial and legal), a will, a loan, adoption, signing up for the army, a contract of any type, etcetera).\" (And thank Gregg for the proposed wording.)
We have revised the success criterion to read, "For forms that cause legal commitments or financial transactions to occur, that modify or delete user-controllable data in data storage systems, or that submit test responses, at least one of the following is true..." We have also added a definition for legal committments. yes
LC-1517 Christophe Strobbe <christophe.strobbe@esat.kuleuven.be> on behalf of Katholieke Universiteit Leuven - DocArch (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: general comment
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

If a conformance claim is made for http://example.com/, does this include subdomains like http://www.example.com/, http://lists.example.com/ and http://cvs.example.com/?
I would assume that they are all covered, unless some of them are explicitly excluded. This approach would be in line with RDF Content Labels [http://www.w3.org/2004/12/q/doc/content-labels-schema.htm] and URI Pattern Matching by the Web Content Labels Incubator Group [http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/wcl/matching.html].

Proposed Change:

Add the following to item 6 of \"Required components of a conformance claim\":
\"If only the URI of a host (e.g. http://example.com) is given without specifying subdomains, all subdomains (e.g. http://www.example.com/ and http://lists.example.com) are assumed to be covered, unless some subdomains are explicitly excluded.\"
We have clarified item 4 under "Required components of conformance claim:"

A description of the URIs that the claim is being made for, including whether subdomains are included in the claim.
yes
LC-467 Csaba Gabor <csaba@alum.mit.edu> (archived comment)
Item Number: Make all functionality operable via a keyboard interface
Part of Item:
Comment Type: GE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):
A few years back I tried to pay my Sprint account online and found that even though I could submit a payment form via an image, the payment was not accepted because the x and y coordinates which are automatically submitted with the image (and are 0 in the case of a keyboard click) were both 0. This was bad programming on their part, but the point is:

If an element has focus where a mouse click would take an action that takes the mouse location into account, then using the arrow keys at that point (or some other keyboard means) should allow the user to set the mouse position that will be used upon keyboard simulated clicking (such as using the spacebar) of the element.

This example may be too specific for this document, but I thought I'd mention it as a concrete case that really troubled me.

Csaba Gabor from Vienna

Proposed Change:
Thank you for your note. You will be happy to know that Guideline 2.1 and SC 2.1.1 of WCAG 2.0 require that all functionality of content be operable from the keyboard interface (unless the underlying function requires input that depends on the path of the user's movement and not just the endpoints - which yours doesn't). So the Web page you describe would not pass WCAG 2.0 even at the basic level of conformance. tocheck
LC-878 David Keech <david.keech@bsi-global.com> on behalf of British Standards Instution, London, UK (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: general comment
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

British Standards Institution (BSI) submission to the W3C on Web Content Accessibility Guidelines 2.0 (WCAG 2.0).

BSI as the National Standards Body of the United Kingdom proposes to raise the following issues in comments:

General Substantive Issues
1. Addressing Cognitive and Learning Disability [see LC-1408]

WCAG 2.0 claims to define and address the requirements for making Web content accessible to those with learning difficulties, cognitive limitations and others. We do not accept that claim.

Specifically, the success criteria requirements for making content understandable largely ignore the needs of people with learning difficulties and cognitive limitations. Please note that there are guidelines published by other groups that will make content much more accessible to these users. However, with the WCAG claim to address learning difficulties and cognitive limitations, people will not know that they need to look further.

We would like to see continued work in this field and a statement in the WCAG 2.0 abstract and introduction modifying the claim that they currently address accessibility for learning disabilities. Specifically, we recommend removing learning difficulties and cognitive limitations from the list of supported disabilities. A sentence may be added later in the abstract that "these guidelines may also provide some benefits for people with learning difficulties and cognitive limitations". We would then like to see a statement of intent such as: "the working group intends to build additional success criteria to address accessibility for learning disabilities and cognitive limitations."

2. Metadata [see LC-1409]

We recommend that WCAG 2.0 address the issue of locating good or useable resources by requiring that every resource carry or refer to a description of its accessibility characteristics. Without this the best resources may not be found and a resource that is not universally accessible may not be made available to
a user that could use it even if it is not useable to others.

This comment has also been made in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public comments wcag20/2006Jun/0091.html with which we agree.


Technical Comments

3. [see LC-1410] WCAG defines a "web unit" as "one or more resources, intended to be rendered together, and identified by a single Uniform Resource Identifier ". Resources can in addition consist of moving images, or pages where part of the material is rendered through links into Web Services (such as with AJAX technology). The example given in the definition is static in nature - however in many situations in today's web the end result is not static, or defined solely by a single URI.

This appears to be clarified for a web unit in the section "Conformance claims" - where it states that it "can also take the form of a fully interactive and immersive environment"

However the situation becomes confused by later referring to "Aggregated content" and giving, as an example of this, "a web unit which is assembled from multiple sources that may or may not have their own levels of conformance". In a traditional web page, containing graphics, (as is given as an example in the definition of a "web unit"), this is conventionally exactly how images etc are rendered using the <IMG> tag.

Statements such as "The conformance level for a Web unit that contains authored units is equal to the lowest conformance level claimed for the Web unit content and any of the authored units it contains – including any claims pertaining to aggregated authored units" are extremely unclear, and indeed may be recursive following the unclear distinction apparently made between "web units" and "aggregated content". A "web page" on the other hand is fairly well understood. BSI recommend(s) a closer look at an accurately defined and understood syntax which is not open to misinterpretation and clearly conveys the ideas being communicated.

4. Typo, section \"Choosing baseline technologies\": \"Both conditions are necessary since some users many have browsers that support them while others may not. " - should be ..may have browsers

5. Typo, section "Use of technologies outside of the baseline" - "All content and functionality are available .." should be ".. is available"

6. In the section "Optional components of a conformance claim consideration should be given to replacing the word “CANNOT� is not an appropriate use of language. The language here needs clarifying (“shall not� ?).


7. [see LC-1411] In the section "Examples of conformance claims", "jpeg" is specified as a requirement of one example (examples use "Real Video" and "png" in a similar manner). These are not testable specifications in the same sense as XHTML 1.0 (Strict) - for example progressive jpeg support was only added to many browsers long after the basic sub-baseline jpeg (actually correctly JPEG) decoding was implemented. IS 10918-1 | T.81 (which presumably is what is intended by JPEG) defines a 'shopping list' of image compression techniques, including a baseline. Actual JPEG implementations excludes many items in the list, and add other items (typically JFIF/EXIF file support), and are, almost without exception, sub-baseline. A claim that an item "relies upon" jpeg (sic) is fairly meaningless, and is dependent on many things other than a correct interpretation of parts of IS 10918-1 (for example bit resolution and colour rendering of the display)

8 [see LC-1412] A number of the test criteria and suggested 'solutions' are far from clear. For example, Guideline 1.2 at level 3 success criteria suggests the use of sign language interpretation for multimedia. Following the references in the specification lead to the "Understanding WCAG 2.0" document suggests including a sign language interpreter in the corner of the video stream. There are many sign languages - for example English and US sign languages are different and believed to be mutually unintelligible. No suggestion is made as to how to resolve this for (for example) an English language documentary. Clearly in this instance one possible solutions would be to use overlay replaceable video technology (as offered for example in MPEG-4 technology) rather than conventional digitised video as offered by MPEG1 or MPEG2 technology.

9 [see LC-1413] Comments on Appendix A - Glossary (Normative). This section should be re-written (preferably by a standards editor). Almost every definition is inaccurate, inappropriate or unnecessary. Several are simply incorrect. Starting just with those beginning with
A...

Definition of acronym is incorrect (relates to definition of abbreviation and initialism). An acronym is \"A word formed from the initial letters or parts of other words\" (SOED). An initialism is a subset of this, being formed from initials. Missing out the words 'parts of other words' is both incorrect and makes initialism and acronym identical.

Definition of "activity where timing is essential". 'Timing' should be defined for clarification (or better described in the definition).

Definition of "analog, time-dependent input" - This is 'analog, time-dependent movement', presumably as opposed to "digital, time dependent movement". Whilst not being very clear, adding a definition which constrains this to a very specific meaning in the context of a pointing device may not be useful. The wording should stand on its own as English text, and is not proper to a definition section.

Definition of ASCII art. It is assumed that an image rendered from many small images would classify as ASCII art (examples exist). The spatial arrangement is therefore of glyphs (or similar small sized graphical objects), not characters - their rendition is what provides the pseudo-photographic output.

Definition of "authored unit" (and implicitly "authored component"). See comments above about confusion between authored unit, component and web unit)

Other errors include: Re-definition of text (SOED: the wording of something written or printed). Unicode is defined by the Unicode Consortium (www.unicode.org) and no longer aligns with ISOIEC 10646-1 (or 106464, whatever that is supposed to be!)

Some definitions (eg Luminosity contrast ratio) are in the vein of defining pi as 22/7 - input from the relevant standards body (eg CIE) could have avoided these basic errors. In several places, values are referred to as RGB without any reference to colour spaces. Many definition would be much improved by using the same word definitions as are used in other Standards, where similar terms are correctly defined, and then simply referred to the appropriate Standard in the definition (or worst case by repeating verbatim the wording used in the Standard)

10. For any reader who needs to get to grips with WCAG 2.0, the volume of associated written material is daunting to say the least, with the three core WCAG 2 documents coming in at 160,000 words. The fact that the ‘understanding WCAG 2’ document is more than double the length of the document it explains is worrying. Ultimately, (and ironically) the new web standard for accessibility is initially made inaccessible by the density and volume of associated material.

11. It is not desirable to still be able to use tables for layout, as in http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-TECHS/#N11001

12. [see LC-1414] The role of blinking and flashing content is confused -
http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/complete.html#time-limits-blink and
http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/#seizure-does-not-violate-terms

Proposed Change:
Where they were tracked individually in our database, the issues number assigned to individual items are included in square brackets.

#1 Addressing Cognitive and Learning Disability [LC-1408]
We have added language to the Introduction, the Conformance section, and the Quick Reference to highlight the fact that WCAG 2 only addresses some of the needs of people with cognitive, learning, and language disabilities, and to call out the need for more research in this area. WAI is exploring ways in which to support and encourage work in this important area.

We have added some best practices for cognitive, learning, and language disabilities as advisory techniques, and we have proposed 3 new success criteria in this area.
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#2 Metadata. [LC-1409]
While the working group agrees that metadata describing the accessibility of a resource is beneficial for a number of reasons, WCAG 2.0 does not require this information. There are many reasons we do not, including the fact that conformance claims are not always required, may not be available publicly and in some cases can not be made due to legal constraints.

Although we are not changing WCAG conformance, we recognize the value of what you request. Therefore, the WG hopes to provide WCAG 2.0 supplementary materials containing techniques for generating conformance claims as well as guidance about the various strategies for providing accessibility metadata that are available today.

This approach allows us to revise recommendations about accessibility metadata over time to adapt to changing technologies and recommendations related to generating and providing this information.
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#3. [LC 1410]
We have replaced the term "Web unit" with "Web page" and have modified the conformance section to clarify these concerns.
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#4.
This was removed in a rewrite of the conformance section.
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#5
Edit accepted
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#6
The Conformance section has been completely rewritten. It no longer uses the word "cannot".
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#7 [LC-1411]
The conformance section of WCAG2 has been completely rewritten. The term "baseline" has been replaced by "accessibility-supported Web technologies". The issue of what it means to be an accessibility-supported Web technology is addressed in the section "Accessibility Support of Web Technologies" at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#accessibility-support .

The reason that JPEG is specified in this example is that non-text formats such as JPEG or PNG may be "relied upon" technologies for conformance claims which include success criterion 3.1.5, which encourages authors to provide additional content that illustrates or clarifies the primary content.

While we agree that there is ambiguity in simply listing "JPEG" when it comes to the implementation details you outline in your comment, we believe that this concern would be covered by the definition of accessibility-supported technologies, which includes support by a wide range of user agents and assistive technologies.
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#8 [LC-1412]
There is already a note on the technique which addresses the first part of your issue. It reads:
"Note: Since sign language is not usually a signed version of the printed language, the author has to decide which sign language to include. Usually the sign language of the primary audience would be used. If intended for multiple audiences, multiple sign languages may be used. Refer to advisory techniques for multiple sign languages."

With regard to the second aspect of your comment - Yes, it is also an approach and is mentioned in G81 ("displayed in a different viewport or overlaid on the image by the player"). We also have a SMIL technique for doing this. If you would like to write up another technique on that we would be happy to review for inclusion. Techniques can be submitted to http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/TECHS-SUBMIT/
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#9 [LC-1413]
We appreciate responses of people in the standards field and have received much input which has helped us arrive at the definitions we currently have. We have taken into consideration your comments and have made the following changes:

The definition of acronym now reads "abbreviated form made from the initial letters or parts of other words (in a name or phrase) which may be pronounced as a word
Example: NOAA is an acronym made from the initial letters of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration in the United States."

Timing: This is the ordinary dictionary definition of 'timing'. By policy we don't define words that are used in their ordinary fashion.

"analog, time dependent": We have removed this term from the success criterion and from the glossary.

ASCII ART: We have changed "characters" to "characters or glyphs"

Authored Unit: We have eliminated the definition of authored unit for (among others) the reasons you have cited.

Text/Unicode: We have removed references to Unicode.

Luminosity contrast Ratio: This has been revised to include references to the standards on which it was based as well as tie to color space specifications.
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#10
The guidelines are only 12 pages long. We have removed some very long appendices to make the document shorter. The Understanding WCAG 2.0 should be much longer than WCAG. It is intended to act as a reference text with much supplemental material. A sort of reference text book. For a nice short version of the guidelines we recommend you check out the Quick Reference at www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/quickref/. It has all the WCAG 2.0 requirements along with sufficient techniques to meet them and it is approximately 20 pages long. It can be made shorter if you are only interested in some types of techniques.
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#11
Regarding use of layout tables, if done properly, they do not pose accessibility issues. WCAG tries to characterize the difference between accessible use and common uses that are inaccessible.

While WCAG2 does not prohibit layout tables, it recommends the use of CSS: "Although WCAG 2 does not prohibit the use of layout tables, CSS-based layouts are recommended in order to retain the defined semantic meaning of the HTML table elements and to conform to the coding practice of separating presentation from content."
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#12 [LC 1414]
We have made the following changes to clarify the differences between blink and flash:

The following note was added to the definition of "blink":
Note: The slower blink is in contrast with flashing, which refers to rapid changes in brightness which can cause seizures. See general flash and red flash thresholds.

The following paragraph was added to the intent section of How to Meet Success Criterion 2.3.1:

"Flashing can be caused by the display, the computer rendering the image or by the content being rendered. The author has no control of the first two. They can be addressed by the design and speed of the display and computer. The intent of this criterion is to ensure that flicker that violates the flash thresholds is not caused by the content itself. For example, the content could contain a video clip or animated image of a series of strobe flashes or close-ups of rapid fire explosions."
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LC-1305 David MacDonald <Befree@magma.ca> on behalf of E-Ramp Inc... Working Group member (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: general comment
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Loretta, Michael , Cynthia and myself have been looking at the Level 3 compliance issue. And one of the things we felf we needed to determine is if it is actually possible to do Level 3, without there being some conflict between the guidelines that would make it impossible.

It appears there is a conflict.

2.2.4 Except for real-time events, timing is not an essential part of the event or activity presented by the content.

The problem arises when we consider that captioning, sign language, and most multi-media require a capacity to react or understand within a certain time frame, and therefore they are content where timing is an essential part of the event.

Multi media is amajor helper to people so we don\'t want to forbid it. We don\'t want Level 3 to omit content that can address cognitive issues such as 2.2.4.

Proposed Change:

Propose to make other exceptions besides \"real-time events\" in 2.2.4.

2.2.4 \"Except for captions, sign language, and non-interactive multimedia (i.e., movies), timing is not an essential part of the
event provided by the content...\"

Then we would could define \"non-interactive\" as something that requires does not require an action from the user.

The multimedia would have to have a pause and play button but perhaps that is a user agent issue.
Thank you, this clarification has been accepted. SC 2.2.4 has been modified to read, "Timing: Timing is not an essential part of the event or activity presented by the content, except for non-interactive multimedia and real-time events." and a note added to the Intent section of How to Meet 2.2.4 to read, "Note: Video only, such as sign language, is covered in Guideline 1.1". yes
LC-611 Diarmaid McGleenan <deemaglee@yahoo.com> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: GE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

You have not provided long enough for public review of these guidelines. You\'ve had over 5 years to get them together. Can\'t you give us more than a month?

Proposed Change:

Give us more time to review the guidelines please.
We agreed. Three weeks of additional time was provided. tocheck
LC-570 Dr Philip J Naylor <P.J.Naylor@bristol.ac.uk> on behalf of University of Bristol (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: ED
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):
Actually this comment relates to the "Conformance" overview, which isn't selectable from the menu on the comments web form.

It is a concern that organizations will retain the mindset that AA conformance is enough to claim "reasonable effort" in descrimination cases, even if their environment supports easy implementation of level 3 success criteria. The change of approach from "priorities" to "levels" should be emphasised, especially that even AAA conformance does not imply that a site is accessible.

Proposed Change:

Emphasise the paragraph beginning "This method of grouping success criteris differs...", especially the last sentence.
We clarified the meanings of the conformance levels to make WCAG 2.0's use of conformance level clearer. See http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#overview-levels . yes
LC-571 Dr Philip J Naylor <P.J.Naylor@bristol.ac.uk> on behalf of University of Bristol (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: ED
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Typo.

Proposed Change:

Last sentence of "Choosing baseline technologies" should read "...users may have..." not "...users many have...".
This section has been rewritten and the error no longer occurs. yes
LC-572 Dr Philip J Naylor <P.J.Naylor@bristol.ac.uk> on behalf of University of Bristol (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

It is not at all clear how one would provide a regular expression to scope a claim that would apply to a whole site except one or two
diretories, e.g. the whole of http://www.example.com/ except /videos/

Proposed Change:

Add examples for less straight forward conformance scope regular expressions.
An example of both a boolean and a regular expression conformance claim has been added (see http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20-20070517/Overview.html#uc-239-head ):

Example 4: (using boolean logic) On 6 July 2008, http://example.com/ AND NOT (http://example.com/archive/ OR http://example.com/publications/archive/) conforms to Web Content Accessibility Guidelines 2.0 at http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-WCAG20-YYYYMMDD/. Double-A (AA) conformance. The documented set of accessibility-supported content technologies used for this claim is ISA- AsCTset#1-2008 at http://ISA.example.gov/AsCTsets/AS2-2008.

Example 5: (using a regular expression) On 12 August 2008, http://www.example.com/(marketing|sales|contact)/.* conforms to Web Content Accessibility Guidelines 2.0 at http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-WCAG20-YYYYMMDD/. Double-A (AA) conformance. The technologies that this content "relies upon" is: XHTML 1.0 Transitional. The technologies that this content "uses but does not rely upon" are CSS 1.0 and JavaScript 1.2.
yes
LC-574 Dr Philip J Naylor <P.J.Naylor@bristol.ac.uk> on behalf of University of Bristol (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: GE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

The success criteria, stripped of the supporting documentattion, are amazingly concise - well done to all concerned.

Proposed Change:
(none)
Thank you. We appreciate you taking the time to fill out the comment form to include this feedback. yes
LC-893 Emmanuelle Gutiérrez y Restrepo <coordina@sidar.org> on behalf of Sidar Foundation (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: general comment
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

The National Confederation of Deaf Persons of Spain (CNSE)have requested to us that we support to obtain an improvement in the accessibility for the deaf people.
Being conscious of the differences between the languages of signs worldwide and the lack of equivalence with the languages spoken in each country, we considered that some reasonable advances by means of the following changes could be included.

Proposed Change:

To add a requirement to offer, always, an alternative in sign language interpretation for certain textual contents. Level 1 (a)
For example:
- Page of presentation of the website: presentation of the authors, people in charge, objectives of the site, scheme of the content (map of the site).
- Possible services that are supplied and instructions to make use of such.
- Possible supplied products and instructions for its handling, acquisition or manipulation, etc.
- Information on the contact form and steps to follow to clarify doubts, to resolve incidences, to contribute suggestions, etc.
Although we recognize that reading text may be challenging for some deaf people, the working group believes that providing text versions of the content is the basic accessibility requirement. We are also not clear how to characterize the classes of content for which you are requesting that sign language versions be required.

Because sign language interpretation can be an accessibility enhancement for deaf users, we have added an advisory technique to GL 3.1 to provide sign language interpretation for all text content.
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LC-1490 Eric Hansen 1 <ehansen@ets.org> on behalf of Educational Testing Service (archived comment)
alternate version
version that provides all of the same information and functionality and is as up to date as [the] non-conformant content [This definition is loaded, but may be fine…]
We have incorporated your suggestion to replace "any" with "the" in the definition of "alternate version." tocheck
LC-1492 Eric Hansen 1 <ehansen@ets.org> on behalf of Educational Testing Service (archived comment)
In standard audio description, narration is added during existing pauses in dialogue. (See also [Why initial cap?]Extended audio descriptions.)
Thanks for catching. We have fixed the typo. yes
LC-1496 Eric Hansen 1 <ehansen@ets.org> on behalf of Educational Testing Service (archived comment)
full multimedia text alternative including any interaction [Is this what used to be called collated text transcript?]
Yes. We have revised the term to read, "full text alternative for multimedia including any interaction." based on this and other feedback. yes
LC-1498 Eric Hansen 1 <ehansen@ets.org> on behalf of Educational Testing Service (archived comment)
label
text, image, or sound that is presented to a user to identify a component within Web content [Is it simply text that is the critical piece…. ?]
Yes. This definition now reads:

label
text, or other component with a text alternative, that is presented to a user to identify a component within Web content
yes
LC-1503 Eric Hansen 1 <ehansen@ets.org> on behalf of Educational Testing Service (archived comment)
real-time event
event that a) occurs at the same time as the viewing, b) is not completely generated by the content[?], and c) is not pre-recorded
[Describe the examples as shown in edits..]
Example 1: A Webcast of a live performance (occurs at the same time as the viewing).
Example 2: An on-line auction with people bidding (is not prerecorded).
Example 3: Live humans interacting in a fantasy world using avatars (is not completely generated by the content and occurs at the same time as the viewing).[Is there a better of example of something that is only “not completely generated by content.�]
We have included the parentheticals almost as proposed. Regarding your question about examples of things "not completely generated by content," this phrase is used to exclude situations where the content itself is designed to react in a predetermined fashion to input. For example, if you click on a picture - it falls from the wall. This happens when you click on it but the action is completely determined by the content and could have a description included. yes
LC-1504 Eric Hansen 1 <ehansen@ets.org> on behalf of Educational Testing Service (archived comment)
(revisions to note on "sign language interpretation" definition)
Note: Although some languages have [an artificially created] signed counterpart, <add>true</add> <del>most</del> sign languages are independent languages that are unrelated to the spoken language of the same country or culture.
Thank you. We have modified the definition as you proposed. yes
LC-1505 Eric Hansen 1 <ehansen@ets.org> on behalf of Educational Testing Service (archived comment)
supplemental content
additional content, which users may use in addition to or instead of the default content[Is it the case the supplemental content is not an alternative version or a text alternative? What is the relationship between supplemental content and text alternatives?????], that illustrates or clarifies the default content
Example: Examples of supplemental content may include text, images and audio.
[Do we nNeed a definition of Default Content?
Do URIs for the supplemental content need to be supplied within the claim?
Does supplemental content need to be an explicit part of the scope?]
]]
Thank you for pointing out the overlap between these two terms. We have revised the definition to read, "additional content that illustrates or clarifies the primary content" and have added a series of examples to help clarify the issue. We have also modified the success criterion to allow for both supplemental content and alternative versions. yes
LC-1506 Eric Hansen 1 <ehansen@ets.org> on behalf of Educational Testing Service (archived comment)
test or exercise that must use a particular sense
test or exercise where the content must be presented in a particular sensory format
Example: Color blindness test, hearing test, vision exercise, spelling test

[Not sure if it is possible to improve on this….However, there is a wider range of situations, where providing alternate content could undermine the validity of the result of the effectiveness of the application. The conflict may or may not be “sensory� in nature. For example, the issue may be cognitive/linguistic, etc. It may be worth trying to fine tune this issue more for this document.].
We have updated this term and its definition as follows:

must be presented in non-text format:
would be invalid if presented in text

Example: Color blindness test, hearing test, vision exercise, spelling test
yes
LC-1507 Eric Hansen 1 <ehansen@ets.org> on behalf of Educational Testing Service (archived comment)
text alternative
programmatically determined text that is used in place of non-text content, or text that is used in addition to non-text content and referred to from the programmatically determined text. [It seems that there should be a clearer way to say this… Or perhaps better, give a couple of examples.. This is so fundamental, one wants it to be absolutely clear.]
[[
Relation to non-text content Referred to from
1. Used in place of 1. [Is this information missing from def?]
2. Used in addition to 2. programmatically determined text
]]
We have included an example to make this clear.

Example: An image of a chart is described in text in the paragraph after the chart. The short text-alternative for the chart indicates that a description follows.
yes
LC-1508 Eric Hansen 1 <ehansen@ets.org> on behalf of Educational Testing Service (archived comment)
used in an unusual restricted way
words used in such a way that users must know exactly what definition to apply in order to understand the content correctly
Example: The word "representational" means something quite different if it occurs in a discussion of visual art as opposed to a treatise on government[Very obscure example… Could there be a simpler example?], but the appropriate definition can be determined from context. By contrast, the word "text" is used in a very specific way in WCAG 2.0, so a definition is supplied in the glossary.[Maybe just say that many of the words in the glossary may be described this way.]
We have simplified the example per your request, but have kept the reference to "text" because it is a good example of how we are using it in a restricted way. yes
LC-1509 Eric Hansen 1 <ehansen@ets.org> on behalf of Educational Testing Service (archived comment)
user-agent-supported [Priority AA]
implemented by user agents <del>and assistive technologies</del>[Are not ATs also user agents? See previous glossary entry]
Note: One of the factors that should be considered before adding a technology to a baseline is the availability of affordable user agents<del>and assistive technologies</del> which support the technology.
We removed the term "user-agent-supported" from the definition of programmatically determined, so it no longer occurs in the glossary.

The definition of "programmatically determined" now reads "determined by software from author-supplied data provided in a way that different user agents, including assistive technologies, can extract and present this information to users in different modalities".
yes
LC-1511 Eric Hansen 1 <ehansen@ets.org> on behalf of Educational Testing Service (archived comment)
Wisconsin Computer Equivalence Algorithm for Flash Pattern Analysis (FPA)
a method developed at the University of Wisconsin, working in conjunction with Dr. Graham Harding and Cambridge Research Associates, for applying the United Kingdom's "Ofcom Guidance Note on Flashing Images and Regular Patterns in Television (Re-issued as Ofcom Notes 25 July 2005)" to content displayed on a computer screen, such as Web pages and other computer content[What is intended benefit?]
Because the algorithm developed by Dr. Harding was based on average viewing distances from television sets, this work needed to be adapted to match viewing distances and screen sizes for computer screens. Additional information about the benefits is available in Understanding Guideline 2.3. yes
LC-738 Eric Hansen <ehansen@ets.org> on behalf of Educational Testing Service (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: ED
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

• If non-text content presents information or responds to user input, text alternatives serve the same purpose and present the same information as the non-text content. If text alternatives cannot serve the same purpose, then text alternatives at least identify the purpose of the non-text content.

Should this “If� better be a “Where�? General comment… I find myself wanting to see a “then� at the beginning of the consequence…

Proposed Change:
We agree that "where" could be used. We have chosen "if" however to keep a common format in the guidelines. We have added "then" to bullets #1, #3 and #4. yes
LC-741 Eric Hansen <ehansen@ets.org> on behalf of Educational Testing Service (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

1.2.5 Sign language interpretation is provided for multimedia.

Why apparent bias towards sign language instead of other forms of manual communication?

Proposed Change:
Thank you for your new proposed definitions. We have revised the definitions to read:

sign language
a visual language using combinations of movements of the hands and arms, facial expressions, and body positions to convey meaning

sign language interpretation
translation of one language, generally a spoken language, into a sign language

Note: Most sign languages are independent languages that are unrelated to the spoken language(s) of the same country or region.
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LC-746 Eric Hansen <ehansen@ets.org> on behalf of Educational Testing Service (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

2.4.3 Web units have titles.

The How to Meet material seems to view Web units as pages, but the definition is really broader….

Proposed Change:
Thank you for catching this. We have removed the examples that are not Web pages and added an example of a Web application. yes
LC-1023 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
AAA conformance - It is not clear how one achieves AAA conformance. In the WCAG 2.0 document (under the 'Conformance' heading) there is a note "Because not all level 3 success criteria can be used with all types of content, Triple-A conformance only requires conformance to a portion of level 3 success criteria". Does this mean a site can claim Triple-A conformance if they comply with all Level A and Level AA SC and one Triple-A SC? This statement is in contradiction with information in the "Baseline" document which states (under the 'Vertical and Horizontal scoping in conformance statements' - first question) "Any web content for which Level AAA conformance is claimed must meet all Level 1 and Level 2 success criteria plus at least 50% of applicable Level 3 success criteria".

Proposed Change:

Firstly, there must be consistency between the two documents and how to claim AAA conformance must be clearly detailed. I do not understand why AAA is being treated differently to A and AA. I believe AAA compliance should mean compliance with all AAA SC, not just ones the developer chooses to implement.
We have changed the definition of Level AAA conformance so that all Level AAA Success Criteria that apply to the content types used must be satisfied. yes
LC-1028 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
Baseline - From reading the Baseline documents, it appears that if a baseline technology does not have particular functionality (for example, the ability to navigate using only the keyboard), then the site can still be compliant with WCAG2 (but obviously not accessible). I think it is reprehensible that the main body advocating accessibility is about to release a set of guidelines that patently allow inaccessible web sites.

Proposed Change:

Remove the baseline theory, or allow only UAAG compliant programs in baseline.
Your concern seems to arise from a different understanding of the meaning of Baseline than that intended by the Working Group. To help address this the conformance section has been completely rewritten, and the term "baseline" has been replaced by "accessibility-supported Web technologies".

In order to claim conformance, a Web page must satisfy the WCAG success criteria using a technology that has assistive technology support and works with the accessibility features in user agents.

If a technology does not have a particular functionality that is necessary to satisfy some WCAG success criterion (such as keyboard support), then it is impossible to create a conforming Web page relying on that technology. The page would need to meet that success criterion using one of the other technologies upon which it relies.

NOTE: The technologies referred to are not the user agents, so they couldn't conform to UAAG. They are the technologies used to build the page (like HTML, CSS etc.) The question of whether a technology is accessibility supported is affected by the behavior of user agents and assistive technology for the technology.
yes
LC-1029 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
Baseline - From reading the Baseline documents, it appears that if a baseline technology does not have particular functionality (for example, the ability to navigate using only the keyboard), then the site can still be compliant with WCAG2 (but obviously not accessible). This acts as a disincentive for big corporations to develop accessibility features. Developers want things to be easy - it's a lot easier to click "Print to PDF" in a Word document than it is to tag a PDF. So what is to stop Adobe (sorry Loretta!) superceding their PDF technology with a new "SDF" technology that has no accessibility features? In that case it would be a lot easier for a person to create a WCAG2 compliant SDF document than it would be to create a WCAG2 compliant PDF document. In another example, if someone had CSS in their baseline then it would be WCAG2 compliant to use CSS markup to highlight a specific word without having an HTML alternative, and which would not be able to be interpreted by a screen reader

Proposed Change:

Remove the baseline theory, or allow only UAAG compliant programs in baseline. If I have misinterpreted the baseline theory, then the WG needs to develop a document to be used in conjunction with WCAG2 that lists what baseline technologies must be able to do (similar to UAAG)
The conformance section has been completely rewritten, and the term "baseline" has been replaced by "accessibility-supported Web technologies".

If a technology doesn't have AT support then you can't use that technology to meet WCAG according to our conformance requirements. So the problem you cite would be covered.

Determining whether a technology is accessible-supported is based on the availability and support for that technology in users' user agent and AT. The purpose is to ensure that content can be accessed with the user's AT.

NOTE: The technologies referred to are not user agent technologies. They are the technologies used to build the page (like HTML, CSS etc.)
yes
LC-1030 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
Baseline - Baseline needs to be defined, just like all other terms in WCAG2. There is no specific definition

Proposed Change:

Provide a definition for baseline
The conformance section of WCAG2 has been completely rewritten. The term "baseline" has been replaced by "accessibility-supported Web technologies". The issue of what it means to be an accessibility-supported Web technology is addressed in the section "Accessibility Support of Web Technologies" at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#accessibility-support . yes
LC-1033 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
Baseline - Under "Examples of baselines and what they mean" (example 1) it says "The baseline includes HTML 4.01, in addition to GIF and JPEG images… this extremely limited baseline…". I object to the use of the words "extremely limited" - it is a deliberately pejorative statement

Proposed Change:

Remove the words "extremely limited"
The words have been removed. They are no longer used in WCAG. yes
LC-1037 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
Baseline - I believe it is not possible to fully comment on baseline due to the lack of a definition and the statement "The W3C-WAI may also prepare "A Guide for Policy Makers" to help organizations choose a baseline that will ensure the maximum accessibility for their environments". This policy document is mandatory to fully understand baseline and how it is to be applied.

Proposed Change:

Develop "A Guide for Policy Makers" and allow the public to comment prior to releasing WCAG2 as a W3C Recommendation
The conformance section of WCAG2 has been completely rewritten. The term "baseline" has been replaced by "accessibility-supported Web technologies". The issue of what it means to be an accessibility-supported Web technology is addressed in the section "Accessibility Support of Web Technologies" at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#accessibility-support . yes
LC-1038 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
Baseline - Under 'Additional information' it says that a conformance claim "CANNOT specify physical, sensory or cognitive requirements". Is the conformance claim not allowed to say "We have developed this site specifically for people with vision impairments" - because that is something that would be important to a vision impairment organisation.

Proposed Change:

This section needs to delineate between specifying actual physical, sensory or cognitive requirements a person needs to access a site, via physical, sensory or cognitive disabilities that are catered for
We have rewritten the conformance section, and this statement has been removed. yes
LC-1039 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
Baseline - The dates need to be changed in all the examples. One example date is 23 March 2005. All dates should be after the estimated date of release for WCAG2

Proposed Change:

All dates should be after the estimated date of release for WCAG2
Thank you. All dates in examples are changed to 2008 so they will look fresh for a while after release. yes
LC-1040 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
Vertical scoping - Vertical scoping outlaws saying "This site complies except for all movies and animations" but does not outlaw putting all movies and animations in a subdirectory (eg "movies") and scoping out that subdirectory (eg. Www.site.com/movies). It also doesn't outlaw a supermarket site saying "This site complies except for the shopping cart" or a bank web site saying "This site complies except for the internet banking section."

Proposed Change:

Remove the concept of vertical scoping.
The "Scope out" language has now been removed from the Conformance section and conformance is now based on Web page(s): that is a primary resource referenced by a URI and any other resources that are rendered simultaneously with it with the understanding that different sub elements or resources may be rendered simultaneously with the primary resource at different points in time. The conformance claim process requires the claimant to state which URIs the claim applies to.

We have also added a conformance criterion regarding pages that are part of a process:

Complete processes: If a Web page that is part of a process does not conform at some level, then no conformance claim is made at that level for any Web pages in that process.
yes
LC-1041 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
Baseline - The section "Initial Guidance" is even more confusing than other parts of the documents. There are no definitions or rules for following baseline, just examples in this section.

Proposed Change:

Develop "A Guide for Policy Makers" and allow the public to comment prior to releasing WCAG2 as a W3C Recommendation. Develop a document, for use with WCAG2, that list suitable technologies for baseline. This document can be updated by the WG or the W3C every year. Provide a definition for baseline.
The conformance section of WCAG2 has been completely rewritten. The term "baseline" has been replaced by "accessibility-supported Web technologies". The issue of what it means to be an accessibility-supported Web technology is addressed in the section "Accessibility Support of Web Technologies" at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#accessibility-support . yes
LC-1044 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
Term: success criteria - The term "Success Criteria" is not explained in the "Important new terms used in WCAG 2.0" section of the WCAG2 document

Proposed Change:

The term "Success Criteria" should be added to the "Important new terms used in WCAG 2.0" section of the WCAG2 document
We have added a paragraph to this section that describes the term. See http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#overview-sc . yes
LC-1052 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
2.4.5: This should be at Level 1. Descriptions, headings, labels etc are very important for both people who use screen readers and people with cognitive disabilities. Equivalent checkpoints in WCAG 1.0 are at Level AA

Proposed Change:

Move to Level 1
We have added "descriptive" to SC 2.4.2 (formerly 2.4.3) and moved it to level A.

SC 2.4.6 (formerly 2.4.5) has been moved to Level AA. It addresses descriptive headings and labels, which may need to be understood in context. While headings may not have sufficient descriptive power in isolation, when viewed in the context of a structured document, they do have sufficient descriptive power.
yes
LC-1053 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
2.4.6: This should be at Level 1. Order of information is very important to both people who use screen readers and people with cognitive disabilities.

Proposed Change:

Move to Level 1
Because assistive technology cannot provide access to rerendered content if this success criterion is not satisfied, it has been moved to level A. yes
LC-1061 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
WCAG 2 Quick Reference: While this is an excellent idea, it violates 3.2.1

Proposed Change:

Ensure that all the W3C WCAG 2 documents comply with at least L1 of WCAG2
Quick Reference has two places where it changes content.

One is the expanding check boxes at the top. This causes changes in content - but not changes in context. It is the working groups specific intent that the types of changes represented by the Quick Reference be allowed. In fact the Quick Reference was designed to provide an example of what was not a change of context but only a change of content.

The second part is the changing of the full document contents. This does change the meaning of the page and would constitute a change of context. This addresses the success criterion by providing information in advance that explains how this changes. We have recently also changed the introductory text to better reflect what happens as you change the settings at the top.
yes
LC-1065 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
4.2.4: This SC does not make sense. Shouldn't this be at Level 2?

Proposed Change:

Explain this SC
We have completely rewritten the conformance section of the guidelines, and we have moved most of GL 4.2 into the conformance section. This is no longer a success criterion. The section titled "Three levels of conformance" contains:
"It is recommended that even non-conforming content conform to the extent possible."

This applies independent of conformance level.
yes
LC-1085 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
Level 1: There should be Level 1 equivalents of 1.4.1 and 1.4.2.

Proposed Change:

Create new SC or move 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 to Level 1
Because background audio can interfere with assistive technology, SC 1.4.1 (formerly 1.4.2) has been moved to level A.

Because level A attempts to put the fewest possible limitations on presentation, and because assistive technology will be able to present the text or text equivalents of this content to the user, the working group felt that SC 1.4.2 (formerly 1.4.1) was most appropriate at level AA.
yes
LC-1097 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
Example - A questionnaire with a timeout: In this example, there are several recommendations that certainly would make the questionnaire more accessible (alert popups, information on timeout etc) but these do not actually relate to this (or any) SC. These are excellent requirements - they should be developed into SC

Proposed Change:

Create new SC (I am happy to help with this)
This example illustrates the use of techniques for both 2.2.6 and 2.2.1. To make this clear, we have added a note that reads, "Refer to [Techniques for Addressing Success Criterion 2.2.1] for techniques related to providing notifications about time-outs." to the listing of sufficient techniques in 2.2.6. tocheck
LC-1098 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
Flash: Where is the research that underpins the decision to allow flashing within certain areas on a screen? How were these values decided?

Proposed Change:

Clarify the SC
This decision is based on the existing seizure disorder research and the broadcast industry guidelines in place in several countries. It is primarily based on the work of Jeavons and Harding and on the guidelines developed in UK and used elsewhere. References to the research are available from the resource links provided in the How to Meet and the techniques documents.

Response: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2007Jul/0085.html
yes
LC-1141 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
SC: Change the SC to "Web units have descriptive titles". There is no point having random titles for pages -they should indicate the content

Proposed Change:

Rewrite the SC
We have changed SC 2.4.2 (formerly 2.4.3) to "Web pages have descriptive titles" and have also reflected this change in success criterion 2.4.6 (formerly 2.4.5) and the support documents for both success criteria. yes
LC-1142 Gian Sampson-Wild <gian@tkh.com.au> (archived comment)
There does not seem to be an appreciable difference between SC 2.4.4 and 2.4.8

Proposed Change:

Clarify the SC
We have reworded both SC 2.4.8 and SC 2.4.4 to clarify the differences. They now read:

2.4.4 The purpose of each link can be determined from the link text and its programmatically determined link context.
2.4.8 The purpose of each link can be identified from the link text.

where "Programmatically determined link context" is defined as:

programmatically determined link context
1. Additional information that can be programmatically determined from relationships with a link; and
2. can be extracted, combined with the link text, and presented to users in different modalities.

Example 1: Screen readers provide commands to read the current sentence when focus is on a link.

Example 2: Examples of information that can be extracted, combined with link text, and presented to users in different modalities include text that is in the same sentence, paragraph, list, or table cell as the link or in a table header cell that is associated with the table cell that contains the link.
yes
LC-895 Giorgio Brajnik <giorgio@dimi.uniud.it> on behalf of University of Udine, Italy (archived comment)
it would be useful to read an example of web unit that is NOT a web page.
We have replaced the term "Web unit" with "Web page" and have modified the section on new terms to describe our use of the term "Web page" in greater detail. We have also added an example of content that may not immediately be recognized as a "Web page." See http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#webpagedef .

Web page

a resource that is referenced by a URI and is not embedded in another resource, plus any other resources that are used in the rendering or intended to be rendered together with it

Note: Although any "other resources" would be rendered together with the primary resource, they would not necessarily be rendered simultaneously with each other.

Example 1: When you enter http://shopping.example.com/ in your browser you enter a movie-like interactive shopping environment where you visually move about a store dragging products off of the shelves around you into a visual shopping cart in front of you. Clicking on a product causes it to be demonstrated with a specification sheet floating alongside.

Example 2: A Web resource including all embedded images and media.

Example 3: A Web mail program built using Asynchronous JavaScript and XML (AJAX). The program lives entirely at http://mail.example.com, but includes an inbox, a contacts area and a calendar. Links or buttons are provided that cause the the inbox, contacts, or calendar to display, but do not change the URL of the page as a whole.

Example 4: A customizable portal site, where users can choose content to display from a set of different content modules.
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LC-896 Giorgio Brajnik <giorgio@dimi.uniud.it> on behalf of University of Udine, Italy (archived comment)
in note 1 you refer to triple A but that concept has not been yet defined
Thank you for catching this. We have completely rewritten the conformance section, and triple A is now defined before it is used. tocheck
LC-904 Giorgio Brajnik <giorgio@dimi.uniud.it> on behalf of University of Udine, Italy (archived comment)
say that “information� is defined below
The meaning here is the common meaning of the word. Per a rule to not keep words in glossary that are used in their standard dictionary defined way, we have removed 'information' from our glossary. tocheck
LC-906 Giorgio Brajnik <giorgio@dimi.uniud.it> on behalf of University of Udine, Italy (archived comment)
provide references to support your def. This is important to achieve a higher level of credibility.
The 5:1 contrast ratio provides a minimum contrast of around 3:1 for the major types of color blindness. A contrast ratio of 3:1 is the minimum level recommended by ANSI/HFS 100-1988. 10:1 provides approximately 7:1 contrast ratio for individuals with color blindness, which is the recommended contrast level in ANSI/HFS 100-1988.

We have added the following to the Intent sections of SC 1.4.1 and 1.4.4:

The 5:1 contrast ratio provides a minimum contrast of around 3:1 for the major types of color blindness. A contrast ratio of 3:1 is the minimum level recommended by [ISO-9241-3] and [ANSI-HFES-100-1988].

Calculations in ISO 9241-3 and ANSI/HFS 100-1988 are for body text. A relaxed contrast ratio is provided for text that is much larger (twice as tall and with three time the thickness of lines in the character).

Notes on formula

Conversion from nonlinear to linear RGB values is based on IEC/4WD 61966-2-1 [IEC-4WD] and on "A Standard Default Color Space for the Internet - sRGB" [sRGB].

The formula (L1/L2) for contrast is based on ISO 9241-3 and ANSI/HFS 100-1988 standards.

The ANSI/HFS 100-1988 standard calls for the contribution from ambient light to be included in the calculation of L1 and L2. The .05 value used is based on Typical Viewing Flare from IEC/4WD 61966-2-1 and the sRGB paper by M. Stokes et al.

This success criterion and its definitions uses the terms contrast ratio and relative luminance rather than luminance to reflect the fact that Web content does not emit light itself. The contrast ratio gives a measure of the relative luminance that would result when displayed. (Because it is a ratio, it is dimensionless.)

Note: Refer to related resources for a list of tools that utilize the contrast ratio to analyze the contrast of Web content.
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LC-907 Giorgio Brajnik <giorgio@dimi.uniud.it> on behalf of University of Udine, Italy (archived comment)
is a smiley nontext content?
Yes:
- if it is an image, it is non-text content
- if it is in characters, it is ASCII art - which is also non-text content per definition in the glossary.
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LC-915 Giorgio Brajnik <giorgio@dimi.uniud.it> on behalf of University of Udine, Italy (archived comment)
with “identifying� do you mean “a mechanism is available to the user for identifying...�?
The success criteria allows for direct or user-agent provided mechanisms: the mechanism can either make the information available to the user or programmatically available to user agents which can then make it available to the user. We have added an example to Success Criterion 3.1.4 to demonstrate mechanisms provided to the user by the user agent. tocheck
LC-465 Greg Gay <g.gay@utoronto.ca> on behalf of ATRC UofT (archived comment)
Item Number: Success Criterion 4.2.1
Part of Item:
Comment Type: GE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):
4.2.1 also suggests that the accessible version be the primary version, with a link to the inaccessible version. In reality that is never the case, nor would you likely be able convince a client/developer to use an HTML version of their splash page in favour of a fancy Flash version

Proposed Change:
Ideally there should be reciprocol links between the two versions.
We have moved discussion of alternate versions of content to the Conformance section of the Guidelines.

"Alternate Versions: If the Web page does not meet all of the success criteria for a specified level, then a mechanism to obtain an alternate version that meets all of the success criteria can be derived from the nonconforming content or its URI, and that mechanism meets all success criteria for the specified level of conformance. The alternate version does not need to be matched page for page with the original (e.g. the alternative to a page may consist of multiple pages). If multiple language versions are available, then conforming versions are required for each language offered."

We have also added an advisory technique titled, "Providing reciprocal links between conforming and non-conforming versions."
yes
LC-466 Greg Gay <g.gay@utoronto.ca> on behalf of ATRC UofT (archived comment)
Item Number: Success Criterion 4.2.1
Part of Item:
Comment Type: ED
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):
Wording of 4.2.1 is easily misinterpreted.

Proposed Change:
"Where content is presented using a technology that is not in the baseline, or is in the baseline but does not meet level 1 success criteria, provide reciprocol links between that version and another version of that same content, with equivalent functionality, that does meet level 1 success criteria."
We have moved discussion of alternate versions of content to the Conformance section of the Guidelines.

Alternate Versions: If the Web page does not meet all of the success criteria for a specified level, then a mechanism to obtain an alternate version that meets all of the success criteria can be derived from the nonconforming content or its URI, and that mechanism meets all success criteria for the specified level of conformance. The alternate version does not need to be matched page for page with the original (e.g. the alternative to a page may consist of multiple pages). If multiple language versions are available, then conforming versions are required for each language offered.

We have also added an advisory technique titled, "Providing reciprocal links between conforming and non-conforming versions."
yes
LC-469 Greg Gay <g.gay@utoronto.ca> on behalf of ATRC UofT (archived comment)
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):
There is currently no item number relevant to this comment. Technique G96 seems to be the only place within the WCAG 2.0 documents that mentions anything about "relative positioning", or more specifically use of relative measures. Using relative measures is particularly important for low vision users who use a browser function to blow up the text size. It is also important for those using small screens like PDAs.

Proposed Change:
This requirement seems to fit best under WCAG principle 4, regarding robust. Perhaps a new guideline 4.1.3, at level 2. something like "Ensure that content can be resized without losing its symmetry" Then in the techniques describing the use of relative measures for sizing block level items, text, images, etc.
Although resizing is primarily a user agent function, we have added new success criteria to address the author's responsibility for supporting text resizing:

Level AA: Visually rendered text can be resized without assistive technology up to 200 percent and down to 50 percent without loss of content or functionality.

Level AAA: Visually rendered text can be resized without assistive technology up to 200 percent and down to 50 percent without loss of content or functionality and in a way that does not require the user to scroll horizontally.
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LC-532 Greg Gay <g.gay@utoronto.ca> on behalf of ATRC UofT (archived comment)
Item Number: Technology assumptions and the
Part of Item:
Comment Type: ED
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

For the section prior to ...assumptions and the baseline... which isn't included in the items that can be commented on.

References are made to Level 1 2 3, then Note 1 that follows refers to Triple-A conformance. Prior to this though, there has been no mention of A, AA, AAA confomance rankings. Novices to the guidelines may not make the connection if it is not described explicitely. Not until much further down the page is the association made.

Proposed Change:

Perhaps a note explaining the association, or a reference to an anchor further down the page would be appropriate here.
We have completely rewritten the introduction and the conformance section, and conformance levels are now defined before they are used. yes
LC-543 Greg Gay <g.gay@utoronto.ca> on behalf of ATRC UofT (archived comment)
Item Number: Success Criterion 3.1.6
Part of Item:
Comment Type: QU
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

Is guideline 3.1.6 relevant to alphabetic langauges. I was unable to determine the meaning of this guideline as it applies to English, or other alphabetic languages. If it is relevant to alphabetic languages, examples should be provided, or it should be stated that it applies to syllabic, or orthographic languages.

Proposed Change:
Guideline 3.1.6 is indeed relevant to alphabetic languagues. Examples have been added to the "Intent of this success criterion" section of "How to Meet 3.1.6" to illustrate this. The revised section reads as follows:

"For example, in the English language heteronyms are words that are spelled the same but have different pronunciations and meanings, such as the words desert (abandon) and desert (arid region). Additionally, in some languages certain characters can be pronounced in different ways. In Japanese, for example, there are characters like Han characters(Kanji) which have multiple pronunciations. Screen readers may speak the characters incorrectly without the information on pronunciation. When read incorrectly, the content will not make sense to users."
yes
LC-1150 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
The paragraph defining "user agent" implies that it incldues all AT, whereas it really only includes some AT. It reads: "It is important to note that assistive technologies are included in this definition. Assistive technologies include screen readers, screen magnifiers, on-screen and alternative keyboards, single switches, voice recognition, and a wide variety of input and output devices that meet the needs of people with disabilities."

Proposed Change:

Add phrases shown in upper case: "It is important to note that MANY assistive technologies are included in this definition. SUCH assistive technologies include screen readers, screen magnifiers, on-screen and alternative keyboards, single switches, voice recognition, and a wide variety of input and output devices that meet the needs of people with disabilities."
We removed this paragraph because it was redundant with the definitions and we were removing unnecessary informative information from the conformance section. We have clarified the relationship between user agents and assistive techologies in the current definitions. yes
LC-1154 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
The guidance says that when referencing WCAG 2.0 with its full name and URI, a period should be used after the date and before the parenthetical URI. However, this is not how it's shown in the Examples. I suggest removing the period from the guidance and leaving the examples as they are.

Proposed Change:

Remove period after date, to read: "Web Content Accessibility Guidelines 2.0, W3C World Wide Web Consortium Recommendation XX Month Year (http://www.w3.org/TR/200X/REC-WCAG20-YYYYMMDD/, Latest version at http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/)"
The draft has been updated as proposed. yes
LC-1165 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
2.2.1 Is there a difference between a "time-out" and a "time limit"? The title refers to "time limits" but the wording of the SC uses "time-outs" in all but one instance.

Proposed Change:

Change "time-out" to "time limit" throughout 2.2.1.
We have updated SC 2.2.1 to use the term "time limit" instead of "time-out". yes
LC-1167 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
Is it intended that ticket purchasing Web sites fail to conform because they only give the user two minutes to confirm a purchase before the seats are returned to the general pool and the user must start the process over again? If you don't want that fail, which of the exceptions would it fall under? (I don't see it falling under any of them as currently written.) If you do want it to fail, what would you recommend such sites do in order to become compliant, allow the user to extend the time limit up to a maximum number of times? This would be a good example to add.

Proposed Change:

Add to Understanding of Techniques an example of a ticket-purchasing Web site that allows the user two minutes to confirm purchase of selected seats, but warns the user when their time is almost out and allows the user to extend this time limit some number of times with a simple action such as clicking a "Extend time limit" button.
Ticket purchasing Web sites in which tickets must be purchased quickly and cannot be held indefinitely would fall under the exception in the final bullet, in which the timeout is essential and cannot be extended without invalidating the activity. We have added an example to clarify this, and indicated that there could be ways to minimize the accessibility barrier provided. We also provide an example to indicate that tickets whose sale are not time sensitive do not fall under this exception. yes
LC-1175 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
Definition of ACRONYM is defined incorrectly as an "abbreviation made from the initial letters", but it should be "abbreviation made from non-contiguous letters of a name or phrase". These are usually the initial letters, but not always; the name being abbreviated is usually made up of more than one word, but not always; and the acronym sometimes contains extra letters that don't occur in the original phrase, but are added in to aid in pronunciation.

Proposed Change:

Change to "abbreviation made from non-contiguous letters of a name or phrase".
We have revised the definition to read, "abbreviated form made from the initial letters or parts of other words (in a name or phrase) which may be pronounced as a word." yes
LC-1176 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
Definition of ALTERNATE VERSION is defined using the term "functionality", which should be a link to that definition.

Proposed Change:

Make the word "functionality" a link to that definition.
The draft has been updated as proposed. yes
LC-1179 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
Definition of AUTHORED UNIT should be reviewed to make sure that it agrees, at a technical level, with the committee's intention. Currently it seems ambiguous about whether a Web unit is one type of authored unit, or whether an authored unit must consist of more than one Web units. Similarly, it is ambiguous about whether a subset of the content on a Web unit (e.g. a paragraph) written by a separate author than the surrounding content, is an authored unit. Finally, it clearly implies that a set of Web units written by multiple authors but intended to be used together as a set would not be an authored unit. Are those all correct interpretations?
We have reformulated the success criteria and glossary to remove both "authored unit" and "authored component" from the guidelines.

3.2.2 On Input: Changing the setting of any user interface component
does not automatically cause a change of context unless the user has been advised of the behavior before using the component.
yes
LC-1181 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
Definition of INITIALISM should make it clear that initialisms are not pronounced as words; if they are, they would be acronyms instead of initialisms. (At least, that's how I've heard it explained.)

Proposed Change:

Add "Note: Initialisms are generally read as strings of individual letters rather than being pronounced as words."
The draft has been updated as proposed. yes
LC-1182 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
Definition of LUMINOSITY CONTRAST RATIO assumes that the foreground is text, but one success criterion applies it to non-text content such as diagrams.

Proposed Change:

Replaced both occurances of "text" with "foreground" in the definition.
We have updated the definition as proposed. yes
LC-1183 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
Definition of LUMINOSITY CONTRAST RATIO assumes that the foreground and background are both solid colors; it is unclear how this would be applied when that is not the case, such as when the background is a gradient or image, or when the foreground consists of many colors. A particularly interesting case is when the foreground is anti-aliased, causing different pixels to be different brightness (or, in the case of Microsoft's ClearType technology, even different colors) but all designed to be perceived as a single brightness of a single color.
Thank you, the definition of contrast has been updated to address your concerns. The new definition text is:

contrast ratio
(L1 + 0.05) / (L2 + 0.05), where

* L1 is the relative luminance of the lighter of the foreground or background colors, and
* L2 is the relative luminance of the darker of the foreground or background colors.

Note 1: Contrast ratios can range from 1 to 21 (commonly written 1:1 to 21:1).
Note 2: For dithered colors, use the average values of the colors that are dithered (average R, average G, and average B).
Note 3: Text can be evaluated with anti-aliasing turned off.
Note 4: Background color is the specified color of content over which the text is to be rendered in normal usage. If no background color is specified, then white is assumed.
Note 5: For text displayed over gradients and background images, authors should ensure that sufficient contrast exists for each part of each character in the content.
yes
LC-1184 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
Definition of NATURAL LANGUAGE is "language used by humans to communicate", but this is so broad that Fortran would be included, as it is a way humans communicate with software.

Proposed Change:

Change to read "language used by humans to communicate with one another".
The guidelines now use "human language" instead of "natural language". The definition of human language is "language that is spoken, written or signed (visually or tactilely) by humans to communicate with one another". yes
LC-1186 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
Definition of PRESENTATION says "rendering of the content and structure in a form that can be perceived by the user". This is not technically correct, as (a) it could render just the content, not the structure, (b) it is a form *designed* to be perceived by *a* user. With the current definition, if the user is blind, nothing on the display counts as presentation.

Proposed Change:

Change to read "rendering of the content and structure in a form designed to be perceived by the user".
The definition has been changed to: "rendering of the content in a form to be perceived by users". yes
LC-1187 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
Definitions of GENEAL FLASH THRESHOLD and RED FLASH THRESHOLD each have three criteria, the first of which is a combined area of flashes occurring concurrently and occupying more than one quarter of any 341 x 256 pixel rectangle anywhere on the displayed screen area when the content is viewed at 1024 x 768. Isn't that just another way of saying one quarter of any rectangle that's 1/3 of the screen high and 1/3 of the screen wide? Wouldn't the latter be sound less confusing and easier to test on non-1024x768 screens?

Proposed Change:

In both GENERAL FLASH THRESHOLD and RED FLASH THRESHOLD, change list item 1 to read "the combined area of flashes occurring concurrently (but not necessarily contiguously) occupies more than one quarter of any rectangular region that is one third of the screen high and one third of the screen wide".
Screen size is not what determines the size of the analysis window. it is angle of view area. So, we have changed the provision to state this and provided the information on what is a good estimate for general Web content as a note.

2.3.1 Three Flashes or Threshold: Content does contain anything that flashes more than three times in any one second period, or the flash is below the general flash threshold and the red flash threshold.

2.3.2 Three Flashes: Content does not contain anything that flashes more than three times in any one second period.

http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#seizure
yes
LC-1189 Greg Lowney <gcl-0039@access-research.org> on behalf of Lowney Access Research, LLC (archived comment)
Definition of SPECIFIC SENSORY EXPERIENCE could use an example to help readers understand it. I find it hard to come up with an example that one couldn't argue also performs a function, even if that function is creating a specific sensory experience.

Proposed Change:

Add "Example: A Web site advertising a horror-themed game plays subtly disturbing music in order to make the user feel a sense of immersion in the theme." (However, one could argue that such music "performs a function" in this case.)
The following has been added to the definition.
"Examples include a performance of a flute solo, works of visual art etc. "
yes
LC-1247 Henny Swan <henny.swan@rnib.org.uk> on behalf of Royal National Institute of the Blind (archived comment)
Comment: The paragraphs describing baselines, what's included not included and what you have to confirm to depending on this, is very difficult to read.

Proposed Change:

Perhaps a couple of examples can be given explaining in each one what is included, not included and what is expected, some use scenarios i.e. "Is you include X, Y and Z in you baseline then...if U and V are not included then you must....".
We have completely rewritten the Conformance section, and hope that baselines (now accessibility-supported Web technologies) is now a clearer concept. We hope to publish some examples of the user agent and assistive technology support available for several technologies, as an example. yes
LC-1256 Henny Swan <henny.swan@rnib.org.uk> on behalf of Royal National Institute of the Blind (archived comment)
WCAG1, 3.4 (use relative fonts) not in WCAG 2. Unsure why this is.
Although resizing is primarily a user agent function, we have added new success criteria to address the author's responsibility for supporting text resizing:

Level AA: Visually rendered text can be resized without assistive technology up to 200 percent and down to 50 percent without loss of content or functionality.

Level AAA: Visually rendered text can be resized without assistive technology up to 200 percent and down to 50 percent without loss of content or functionality and in a way that does not require the user to scroll horizontally.
yes
LC-1257 Henny Swan <henny.swan@rnib.org.uk> on behalf of Royal National Institute of the Blind (archived comment)
Comment: WCAG1, 1.5 (redundant text links for client-side image maps) not in WCAG2. Says this is due to user agents now being able to render text alternatives for client-side images. True however this does not take into account screen magnification users who can get easily lost in a complex image map.
The AT support described in the mapping document also applies to screen magnification software, which could use the text alternatives to present the user with a list of links should they get lost in a complex image map.

WCAG 1.0 Checkpoint 1.5 is really subsumed by Success Criteria 1.1.1. Even with high levels of magnification, image maps are readily keyboard accessible using only the tab key. The consensus of the working group was that redundant text links were not necessary, even though some people might prefer them.

Note: The mapping has been removed from the WCAG document itself. The working group will work in coordination with the EOWG WCAG 2.0 Materials Support Task Force in the creation of transition materials and will consider these comments when the mapping is updated.
yes
LC-658 Jason Gottshall <jgottshall@capwiz.com> (archived comment)
As a web developer who has not yet begun implementing accessibility
standards, I'm confused and daunted by the current proposed WCAG 2.0
standard. From what I have read so far, it is at times incomplete,
contradictory, and meaningless. I can't even begin to explain what's
wrong, because I can't even begin to understand what's right.

Please take some more time to re-evaluate this document. Don't give us a
standard we can't use.

Jason Gottshall
Developer
Knowlegis.net

--
Jason Gottshall
jgottshall@capitoladvantage.com
We have done an extensive rewrite of the guidelines with a focus on making them easier to understand and to remove any apparent conflicts.

We have also shortened and simplified them. Some of the things we have done include:

Easier language to understand
- Wrote simpler guidelines
- Removed as many technical terms (jargon) as possible replacing them with plainer language or, where possible, their definitions
- Eliminated several new or unfamiliar terms. (authored unit, etc.)
- Removed the term Baseline and replaced it with “web technologies that are accessibility supported� and then defined what it means to be accessibility supported.
- Removed the nesting of definitions where we could (i.e. definitions that pointed to other definitions)
- Tried to word things in manners that are more understandable to different levels of Web expertise
- Added short names/handles on each success criterion to make them easier to find and compare etc.
- Simplified the conformance

Shortening the document overall
- Shortened the introduction
- Moved much of the discussion out of the guidelines and put it in the Understanding WCAG 2.0 document
- Shortened the conformance section and moved it after the guidelines
- Moved mapping from WCAG 1 to a separate support document (so it can be updated more easily)

Creating a Quick Practitioner-oriented Summary / Checklist-like document
- Created a Quick Reference document that has just the Guidelines, success criteria and the techniques for meeting the success criteria.

Hopefully, this new version will much better meet your needs.
yes
LC-481 Jason White <jasonw@ariel.its.unimelb.edu.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: ED
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

In the definition of "Web unit":
"identified by a single Uniform Resource Identifier (such as URLs)"

This is not only grammatically wrong but rather sloppy language for a specification.

Proposed Change:

"identified by a single Uniform Resource Identifier (URI)"

Consider whether to add a note stating that a URI is either a Uniform Resource Locator (URL) or a Uniform Resource Name (URN). Is this still correct?
We changed "identified by a single Uniform Resource Identifier (such as URLs)" to "identified by a single Uniform Resource Identifier (URI)." tocheck
LC-484 Jason White <jasonw@ariel.its.unimelb.edu.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: ED
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

"If individual authored units do not carry a conformance claim, then the claim must be based on the Web unit with the authored units in place." This is expressed in terms of claims rather than in terms of conformance. It should be more accurately stated thus:

"If individual authored units do not carry conformance claims, then the conformance of any Web units in which they occur is determined as the level of conformance, if any, attained by those Web units with all aggregated content in place".

Proposed Change:

See wording proposed above.
We have completely revised the conformance section. Issues related to aggregation are now discussed in the section "Statement of partial conformance" at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#conformance-partial . tocheck
LC-487 Jason White <jasonw@ariel.its.unimelb.edu.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

Guideline 1.2 does not require, at any conformance level, audio descriptions of live video; only prerecorded video is covered. Audio description of live video is possible, at least in some circumstances. It can indeed be accomplished at a high level of quality, as in live plays where describers have access to scripts in advance. In other situations, such a degree of quality and accuracy may not be attainable, but descriptions could still be attempted. Are there situations in which it would be technically and practically infeasible to provide audio descriptions of live video? If so, this item could be introduced at level 3, otherwise it is a candidate for level 2.

Proposed Change:

Add a success criterion at an appropriate level requiring audio descriptions of live video.
A criterion similar to this proposal was included in previous drafts of WCAG 2.0. However, the working group decided to remove it since this is almost impossible to do unless the live multimedia is scripted. The working group did not feel that live scripted events were applicable to a wide enough range of web content to be included at the success criterion level, but has included an advisory technique (details to be completed in a future draft) about providing audio descriptions for live multimedia. tocheck
LC-494 Jason White <jasonw@ariel.its.unimelb.edu.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: ED
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

Sc 2.3.1 refers to "content", but sc 2.3.2 refers instead to "Web units". Since any content conforming to the guidelines consists of one or more Web units, the word "content" should refer to all Web units within the scope of the conformance.

The main point here is this: terminology should be consistently used. If there is a technical distinction to be drawn between "content" (2.3.1) and "Web units" (2.3.2), it needs to be explained, or better, expressed directly in the text of the criteria.

Proposed Change:

Change "Web units do not contain any components that flash" to "Content does not flash", or "The content does not flash".
Thanks. We changed 2.3.2 from "Web units do not contain any components that…" to "Content does not contain anything that flashes…" tocheck
LC-497 Jason White <jasonw@ariel.its.unimelb.edu.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: QU
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

How does 2.4.8 differ from 2.4.4? How can the purpose of a link be programmatically determined?

Proposed Change:

Rewrite this sc to clarify what is required and how it differs from 2.4.4, or rewrite 2.4.4 to cover the same issues, or delete 2.4.8.
We have changed SC 2.4.4 to make it clearer that it may be necessary for the user to request context information to understand the purpose of the link at level A. At level AAA, the purpose of the link can be understood from the link independent of its context. We have also changed the language to clarify that the text describing the purpose, and not the purpose itself, is what can be programmatically determined tocheck
LC-500 Jason White <jasonw@ariel.its.unimelb.edu.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: ED
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

Principle 3 refers to "controls" ("content and controls"). Are "controls" the same as "user interface components within the content" mentioned in guideline 2? I think they are, or should be, the same and accordingly that the same terminology should be used.

Proposed Change:

Change "content and controls" in Principle 3 to "content and user interface components" or, perhaps better, "content (including any user interface components it contains)".
We are trying to avoid parentheticals in the princples so Principle 3 has been updated to read, "Principle 3: Understandable - Information and operation of user interface must be understandable by the user. " tocheck
LC-501 Jason White <jasonw@ariel.its.unimelb.edu.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: ED
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

The content (i.e., everything within the scope of conformance), can and in many instances will consist of multiple Web units.

Proposed Change:

Change "the Web unit" to "every Web unit", or "every Web unit within the content".
Success Criterion 3.1.1 has been changed to read, "The default human language of each Web page within the content can be programmatically determined." tocheck
LC-502 Jason White <jasonw@ariel.its.unimelb.edu.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: ED
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

The same as 3.1.1.

Proposed Change:

Change "the Web unit" to "Every Web unit" (or whatever language is chosen to clarify this).
"Web unit" is not needed here because the requirement applies to any type of content for which a claim would be made. Success Criterion 3.1.2 has been revised to read, "The human language of each passage or phrase in the content can be programmatically determined." tocheck
LC-505 Jason White <jasonw@ariel.its.unimelb.edu.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

It isn't clear what "or other primary resources" means other than a set of Web units.

Proposed Change:

Delete "or other primary resources", or define what a "primary resource" is. The former is preferable as there are enough terms already - "Web unit", "authored unit", and "authored component". Alternatively, replace "or other primary resources" with "or authored components", as this seems the most relevant term.
Thanks for catching this editing error. We have removed the phrase, "or other primary resources" from this criterion. tocheck
LC-512 Jason White <jasonw@ariel.its.unimelb.edu.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: QU
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

To what extent is this implicit in the definition of "programmatically determined" and all of the criteria requiring that aspects of the content must be able to be "programmatically determined"?

Does programmatic determination impose a stronger requirement than sc 4.1.1 in so far as it demands the use of representations supported by user agents? It is unclear how one could satisfy 1.3 if the user agents can't unambiguously parse the content in the first place.

Proposed Change:
There is often overlap but not necessarily always overlap. For example, two browsers might parse a document differently using repair techniques. A particular item might be programmatically determinable but be located in two different places on the page in the two renderings. It doesn’t affect the meaning, but the inability to parse the markup can break AT where it doesn’t break other browsers. tocheck
LC-516 Jason White <jasonw@ariel.its.unimelb.edu.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: QU
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

Should there be a criterion corresponding to 4.2.1 and 4.2.3 introduced at level 3, requiring that at least one version of (each Web unit in the) content satisfy at least 50% of the applicable level 3 success criteria? Alternatively, is it sufficient that all versions of the content together meet 50% of the relevant success criteria in order to constitute level 3 conformance?

Proposed Change:
We have changed the definition of Level AAA conformance so that all Level AAA Success Criteria that apply to the content types used must be satisfied. And we have changed the handling of alternate versions so that the former SC 4.2.1 and 4.2.3 are addressed in the Alternate Version conformance criterion, applies to all levels. tocheck
LC-817 Jason White <jasonw@ariel.its.unimelb.edu.au> on behalf of none (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: GE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/quickref/
This reference document is highly accessible in
my hardware and software environment, and the
material is well organized, offering a
summary of each technique with a link to the full
explanation in the techniques documents.

I am confident this reference will be useful to
content developers who want to know how to apply
the guidelines with their chosen technologies,
wish to avoid working through lengthy techniques
documents, but find the application of the
high-level success criteria in the normative
document not to be straightforwardly obvious.

Proposed Change:

Consider whether to add a view in which all the
glossary definitions in the guidelines are
(optionally, of course) inserted into the body of
the document, as in the \"key terms\" sections of
\"Understanding WCAG 2.0\".
Consider also whether to publish the PHP source
code of the quick reference in case developers
want to install it on their intranets.

I would further suggest that when WCAG 2.0
reaches the Candidate Recommendation stage, a
prominent link be provided from the normative
guidelines document to the Quick Reference. For
many developers, I expect, the Quick Reference
will be the preferred means of reading the
guidelines.
All of the definitions are linked to directly from the words in the Quick Reference. Clicking on any term will take you to the relevant item in the glossary. The glossary itself is quite long, so we do not want to include it directly in the Quick Reference.

We have added links from the Guidelines to the Quick Reference. The How To Meet links for the success criteria now take the reader to the Quick Reference instead of the Understanding document.

With regard to the source code - we will be consider this in conjunction with the EO working group as the Quick Reference becomes stable.
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LC-843 Joe Clark 2 <joeclark@joeclark.org> (archived comment)
From http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0119.html

The documents are unreadable

Every attempt has been made to make WCAG 2.0 and the related documents listed above as readable and usable as possible while retaining the accuracy and clarity needed in a technical specification. Sometimes technical terms are needed for clarity or testability.

In fact, at 72 pages and 20,800 words, the WCAG 2 main document is half a book's length and is studded with jargon. Informed people with no disability whatsoever will find it hard to understand. The Working Group has failed to deliver a standards document that can be understood unto itself without reference to two other documents (notably the WCAG 2).
We received a great deal of input on the last call draft and have made a large number of changes including a rewrite of much of the draft to make it easier to understand. We have also included a new quick reference document that provides a tool for practitioners who just want the bottom line on the requirements and the techniques for meeting them in different technologies. We also shortened the Guidelines document considerably.

Here are some of the things we have done.

Easier language to understand
- Wrote simpler guidelines
- Removed as many technical terms (jargon) as possible replacing them with plainer language or, where possible, their definitions
- Eliminated several new or unfamiliar terms. (authored unit, etc.)
- Removed the term Baseline and replaced it with “web technologies that are accessibility supported� and then defined what it means to be accessibility supported.
- Removed the nesting of definitions where we could (i.e. definitions that pointed to other definitions)
- Tried to word things in manners that are more understandable to different levels of Web expertise
- Added short names/handles on each success criterion to make them easier to find and compare etc.
- Simplified the conformance

Shortening the document overall
- Shortened the introduction
- Moved much of the discussion out of the guidelines and put it in the Understanding WCAG 2.0 document
- Shortened the conformance section and moved it after the guidelines
- Moved mapping from WCAG 1 to a separate support document (so it can be updated more easily)

Creating a Quick Practitioner-oriented Summary / Checklist-like document
- Created a Quick Reference document that has just the Guidelines, success criteria and the techniques for meeting the success criteria.
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LC-988 Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org> on behalf of W3C/WAI, on behalf of EOWG (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: editorial
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Having an empty Quick Table of Contents is confusing


Proposed Change:

Eliminate the Quick Table of Contents, unless subsections are added so that a Quick TOC is needed.
The guidelines are no longer split into multiple pages, so the quick TOC is no longer in use. yes
LC-989 Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org> on behalf of W3C/WAI, on behalf of Education and Outreach Working Group (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: general comment
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

It is initially unclear that this comparison table is complex, showing both correspondences and differences between WCAG 1.0 and WCAG 2.0.



Proposed Change:

Clarify by:
- adding an explanation in the introduction to the comparison table that this is a complex comparison, showing both the correspondences and the differences between WCAG 1.0 checkpoints and WCAG 2.0 success criteria; and
- adding an additional column to the table, identifying whether the correspondence shown is a parallel reference, a difference, a gap, etc.
The mapping has been removed from the WCAG document itself so that it will be easier to maintain over time and to reflect new techniques as they come out. The working group will work in coordination with the EOWG WCAG 2.0 Materials Support Task Force in the creation of transition materials and will consider these comments when the mapping is updated. yes
LC-990 Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org> on behalf of W3C/WAI, on behalf of Education and Outreach Working Group (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: editorial
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

People may need to use the comparison table in very different ways, but the current organization of the mapping table does not easily allow for that. Also, some users may not initially realize the various ways it can be helpful, or may misunderstand it as solely as mapping table, or gap table, etc.


Proposed Change:

Clarify purpose & uses of the table by:

1. Adding a column for keywords, and enable multiple views of the comparison table, for instance:

-- sequencing by WCAG 2.0 success criteria

-- sequencing by WCAG 1.0 checkpoint number

-- sequencing by level

-- sequencing by keyword

2. Adding a few very brief use-cases as a mini-introduction, to highlight what this comparison table can be used for; for example:

-- if you are currently using WCAG 1.0, and want to see what the corresponding provision might be in WCAG 2.0;

-- if you are already using WCAG 2.0, but need to demonstrate conformance to WCAG 1.0;

-- if you need to compare what is required under a given priority or level of conformance;

-- if you need to find how a certain issue, such as color contrast, is handled in both WCAG 1.0 and WCAG 2.0
The mapping has been removed from the WCAG document itself so that it will be easier to maintain over time and to reflect new techniques as they come out. The working group will work in coordination with the EOWG WCAG 2.0 Materials Support Task Force in the creation of transition materials and will consider these comments when the mapping is updated. yes
LC-991 Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org> on behalf of W3C/WAI, on behalf of Education and Outreach Working Group (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: editorial
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

The title \"Comparison of WCAG 1.0 checkpoints to WCAG 2.0\" of this appendix is unclear; similarly, the heading of the left column is unclear.



Proposed Change:

Change the title of this appendix to: \"Comparison of WCAG 1.0 Checkpoints and WCAG 2.0 Success Criteria,\" and add a more explicit heading (e.g. \"WCAG 1.0 Checkpoint\") to the left column.
The mapping has been removed from the WCAG document itself so that it will be easier to maintain over time and to reflect new techniques as they come out. The working group will work in coordination with the EOWG WCAG 2.0 Materials Support Task Force in the creation of transition materials and will consider these comments when the mapping is updated. yes
LC-993 Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org> on behalf of W3C/WAI, on behalf of Education and Outreach Working Group (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: editorial
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

The comparison table is complex, and is consequently currently difficult to read with screen magnification, and also via screen reader. Simple linearization may not help much because of the complexity of the table.



Proposed Change:

Add extensive orientation notes to an accessible version. Check readability with magnification and with speech or braille output. [Note: an EOWG participant may send more specific suggestions.]
The mapping has been removed from the WCAG document itself so that it will be easier to maintain over time and to reflect new techniques as they come out. The working group will work in coordination with the EOWG WCAG 2.0 Materials Support Task Force in the creation of transition materials and will consider these comments when the mapping is updated. yes
LC-994 Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org> on behalf of W3C/WAI, on behalf of the Education and Outreach Working Group (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: editorial
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

The format of the explanatory text following the success criteria is difficult to follow, as the linked text is overly marked up with underline, color, italics (which increase reading difficulty), and on-hover highlights.


Proposed Change:

Eliminate the italics and possibly also the on-hover highlights.
We have removed the italics from the terms and have removed the square brackets from the links to "How to Meet SC X.X.X." The on-hover highlights on links are assigned by base.css which is a required W3C Style. yes
LC-996 Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org> on behalf of W3C/WAI, on behalf of the Education and Outreach Working Group (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: editorial
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

The term \"time-out\" (also written as \"timeout\" in the same section) is not a familiar term for many readers.



Proposed Change:

Add a glossary entry for \"time-out.\"
We have updated SC 2.2.1 to use the term "time limit" instead of "time-out". yes
LC-997 Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org> on behalf of W3C/WAI, on behalf of the Education and Outreach Working Group (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: editorial
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Each time EOWG discusses the baseline concept, there are a number of concerns raised about potential mis-uses of baseline, and people can think of a number of scenarios of potential abuse.


Proposed Change:

EOWG recommends adding a much clearer statement of the intent of baseline into the WCAG 2.0 TR document, so that this can be referenced in any debates about potential mis-uses or abuses of baseline. EOWG would be happy to give feedback on draft explanations of the intent.
The conformance section of WCAG2 has been completely rewritten. The term "baseline" has been replaced by "accessibility-supported Web technologies". The issue of what it means to be an accessibility-supported Web technology is addressed in the section "Accessibility Support of Web Technologies" at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#accessibility-support . yes
LC-998 Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org> on behalf of W3C/WAI, on behalf of the Education and Outreach Working Group (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: editorial
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

In the discussion of baseline and conformance, it seems that there is potential for misuse of baseline (e.g. authors might be able to just declare their own level of technology). The actual/potential audience, not just perceived/target audience or what developers wish they could reply on, should define baseline.


Proposed Change:

EOWG recommends that the WCAG WG re-consider the following strategies: to give guidance on what is a realistic baseline for most Web sites today, W3C should publish a \'reasonable/realistic\' baseline recommended for a general audience, outside of the WCAG 2.0 normative document, with an explanation about why the particular baseline is recommended; and it should update this recommended baseline annually or periodically.
The conformance section of WCAG2 has been completely rewritten. The term "baseline" has been replaced by "accessibility-supported Web technologies". The issue of what it means to be an accessibility-supported Web technology is addressed in the section "Accessibility Support of Web Technologies" at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#accessibility-support . yes
LC-1002 Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org> on behalf of W3C/WAI, on behalf of the Education and Outreach Working Group (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: editorial
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Some of the Glossary items are hard to follow because of the Notes.


Proposed Change:

EOWG recommends integrating the Notes back into the main definitions, and linking back to the main use of the defined term in the guidelines.
We don't want to change the format away from the format we are using for definitions, where the definition can substitute for the word or phrase. We will be adjusting the spacing, however, so that the notes are tucked up against the definitions rather than looking like they are separate entities. This also allows the notes to be formatted for easier understanding for many of the definitions.

Regarding the suggestion to link back to the main use of terms, many terms are used many times and there isn't really a main use to link back to.
yes
LC-1003 Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org> on behalf of W3C/WAI, on behalf of the Education and Outreach Working Group (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: editorial
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

BUG: The caption for each table (guideline number and title) does not display in Opera 8


Proposed Change:

Please fix.
This issue has been resolved. yes
LC-1004 Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org> on behalf of W3C/WAI, on behalf of the Education and Outreach Working Group (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: editorial
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

The mouse-over highlighting color adds confusion



Proposed Change:

EOWG suggests removing it.
Agree. It has been removed. yes
LC-1005 Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org> on behalf of W3C/WAI, on behalf of the Education and Outreach Working Group (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: editorial
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

The \"L1\" is unclear.


Proposed Change:

Change \'L1\' to \'Level 1\' etc, and add a heading of \'Level\' to the first column
We have added a heading of "Level" to the first column as proposed and have replaced L1, L2, L3 with the appropriate level. yes
LC-1006 Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org> on behalf of W3C/WAI, on behalf of the Education and Outreach Working Group (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: editorial
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Some readers may not realize that you can save the checklist and add comments to the fourth column as a report.


Proposed Change:

In the 'blurb' explaining what the checklist is for, explain that it is intended that you can save the document and add comments to the fourth column as a report.
Alternatively, provide a simpler table and also a downloadable (RTF) document for evaluation reporting and annotation purposes.
The checklist has been removed form the WCAG document itself. At this point there are no longer any checklists, just the Quick Reference. Since you and the EO working group will be involved in the creation of Checklists in the future we are forwarding your comment back to EO for use in that work. yes
LC-1007 Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org> on behalf of W3C/WAI, on behalf of the Education and Outreach Working Group (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: general comment
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

EOWG approved the following comments prepared by Shawn Henry. Background first, on distribution of material among WCAG 2.0 and supporting documents:

1. WCAG 2.0: Purpose is a stable reference for policies, etc. Keep it as simple and succinct as possible. Clearly point to other documents for important information, such as more info on baseline (which is done in current draft). Leave out any historical info and such (take out some of what is there now).

2. Checklist: Purpose is quick list for people who already know WCAG 2.0 and just need to check off that they’re remembering everything when doing an evaluation, for example. [Other common uses?] (Note that it’s *not* useful as an overview for newbies.)

3. “Understanding�? [or other title]: Purpose is *the* document that most people will use most of the time. Note that since all the guidelines and success criteria are in here I think few people will even look at /TR/WCAG20. [Do you agree?]
* @@

4. Techniques: Purpose is details for implementing. Assume developers are the only target audience. [correct?]

5. Overview (w3.org/WAI/intro/wcag20): Purpose is simple, friendly, directive front door to WCAG 2.0 docs. I think almost all references to WCAG 2.0 (for example, links in other WAI Resources, slides, and such) should point to this overview.

6. [About Baselines]: Eliminate this document. Put the pertinent information about baselines in “Understanding�?, as there’s no reason to send people to yet another document for this information. The non-pertinent info that’s there now could go in 7 below.
7. [something like Background, or WG Notes, or History, or QA or�?¦]: Purpose is to communicate reasons why things were done, address some concerns or issues, and such. For example, move to here most of the “Background�? section from About Baselines, “Why wasn't UAAG used as baseline?�?, and why 2.0 Levels different from 1.0 Priorities (currently in WCAG20 Conformance).

8. [Application Notes] Purpose is to help developers working on a specific thing, such as images, links, forms, data tables. (Brief description is under http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/wcag20.php#related) Note that I think these should cover just the basics, and point back to "Understanding" & "Techniques" for the more complex issues.

9. [Plain-Language Version WCAG 2.0 "101" WCAG 2.0 "for Dummies" WCAG 2.0 Intent] Purpose is for the average person to be able to understand the basics of WCAG 2.0. I imagine taking each guideline and success criteria and providing it in an understandable way. Perhaps this is mostly pulling out the information from the “Intent�? section of "Understanding". Note that this is problematic as it would have to be carefully and clearly positioned, since it would *not* cover all the issues.

10. [Quick Tips] Purpose is something short that touches on the basics to help people get started on accessibility " to fit on a business-card-sized handout.

Proposed Change:
The main change from what is in the current WCAG 2.0 documents and above is moving out of the main /TR/WCAG20 document Comparison with WCAG 1.0, explanatory examples, and other details. In addition to simplifying the normative doc, this puts the explanatory information where it can be updated to reflect changes over time as necessary. It also limits the need for repetition across documents (e.g., now some information in /TR/WCAG20 Conformance is repeated in About Baselines, and not at all in Understanding). I think it also would ensure that people don’t miss important information. (Since it becomes clear that the /TR/WCAG20 only contains the standards, and all other info is in Understanding.)

Based on above, I propose moving the following sections out of /TR/WCAG20 Conformance:

I. Move into a new "Baselines" section of "Understanding":
a. Under Who sets baselines?:
"
...
There are several reasons for this. First, what is appropriate in a baseline may differ for different environments. For example, in the case of content that will be viewed only by employees of a particular company, it may be possible to assume that user agents support more advanced technologies if the company provides the necessary user agents (including assistive technology) to all employees. For public Websites, however, a more conservative level of technology may be all that can be reasonably assumed. Baselines may also vary by jurisdiction. Finally, the level of technology that can be assumed to be supported by accessible user agents will certainly change over time.

Some examples of baselines:

Example 1: A government site that provides information to the public. A government agency publishes information intended for the general public. The specified baseline includes only technologies that have been widely supported by more than one accessible and affordable user agent for more than one release. The government periodically changes the baseline it requires for developers of public sites to reflect the increasing ability of affordable user agents (including assistive technology) to work with newer technologies.

Example 2: A particular government provides high level accessible user agents to all citizens who need them. A government provides all citizens with user agents that support newer technologies. The government is thus able to specify a baseline that includes these newer technologies for all of its Websites for its citizens since the government can assume its citizens' user agents can handle the technologies.

Example 3: A private intranet. An organization (public or private) provides its employees with the information technology tools they need to do their jobs. The baseline for intranet sites used only by employees includes newer technologies that are supported only by the user agent that the organization provides for its employees. Because the company controls the user agents that will view its internal content, the author has a very accurate knowledge of the technologies that those user agents (including assistive technologies) support.

Note: In the examples above, the baseline is not specified in terms of specific user agents but rather in terms of the Web content technologies that are supported and enabled in those user agents (including assistive technologies).
"

b. All of Examples of conformance claims:
"
Examples of conformance claims

Example 1: On 23 March 2005, http://www.wondercall.example.com conforms to W3C's WCAG 2.0, Conformance Level A. The baseline for this claim is XHTML 1.0. The specification that this content "relies upon" is: HTML 4.01. The specifications that this content "uses but does not rely on" are: CSS2, and gif. This content was tested using the following user agents and assistive technologies: Firefox 1.5 on Windows 2000 SP4 with Jaws 7.0, Firefox 1.5 on Windows XP SP 2 with Jaws 7.0, IE 6.0 on Windows 2000 SP4 with Jaws 4.51, IE 6.0 on Windows 2000 SP4 with Jaws 7.0, and Firefox 1.5 on Windows XP SP2 with Jaws 7.0, Safari 2.0 with OS X 10.4.

Example 2: On 5 May 2006, "G7: An Introduction" http://telcor.example.com/nav/G7/intro.html conforms to W3C's WCAG 2.0. Conformance Level Double-A. The following additional success criteria have also been met: 1.1.2, 1.2.5, and 1.4.3. The baseline for this claim is UDBaseline#1-2006 at http://UDLabs.org/Baseline#1-2006.html. The specification that this content "relies upon" is: XHTML 1.0 (Strict), and Real Video. The specifications that this content "uses but does not rely on" are: JavaScript 1.2, CSS2.

Example 3: On 21 June 2007, http://example.com/nav and http://example.com/docs conform to W3C's WCAG 2.0, Conformance Triple-A. The baseline is ISA-Baseline#2-2007 at http://ISA.example.gov/Baselines/BL2-2007. The specifications that this content "relies upon" are: XHTML 1.0 (Strict), CSS2, JavaScript 1.2, jpeg, png. " The technologies this content has been tested with can be found at http://example.com/docs/WCAG20/test/technologies.html.

"
c. All of Content that conforms to WCAG 1.0:

"
Content that conforms to WCAG 1.0

This Working Draft of WCAG 2.0 builds upon WCAG 1.0 and reflects feedback received since the publication of WCAG 1.0 in May 1999.

The Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group is working to ensure that organizations and individuals who are currently using WCAG 1.0 (which remains stable and normative at this time) will be able to smoothly transition to WCAG 2.0. For more information about the similarities and differences between WCAG 1.0 Checkpoints and WCAG 2.0 Guidelines and success criteria, please refer to the (draft) Mapping between WCAG 1.0 and the WCAG 2.0 Working Draft.

Authors whose content currently conforms to WCAG 1.0 may wish to capitalize on past accessibility efforts when making the transition to WCAG 2.0. A qualified conformance statement could allow them this flexibility. For example, a conformance claim might include the following statement: "Materials with creation or modification dates before 31 December 2006 conform to WCAG 1.0. Materials with creation or modification dates after 31 December 2006 conform to WCAG 2.0."

"
II. Move to Document #7 [Background, or WG Notes, or History, or Q&A] above:

"This method of grouping success criteria differs in important ways from the approach taken in WCAG 1.0. Each checkpoint in WCAG 1.0 was assigned a "priority" according to its impact on accessibility. Thus, Priority 3 checkpoints appeared to be less important than Priority 1 checkpoints. The WCAG Working Group now believes that all success criteria of WCAG 2.0 are essential for some people. Thus, the system of checkpoints and priorities used in WCAG 1.0 has been replaced by success criteria under Levels 1, 2, and 3 as described above. Note that even conformance to all three levels will not make Web content accessible to all people."
These are excellent suggestions. Below is a partial list of the actions taken to address these, and a couple of things that we have not addressed.

#9 - a simple version. We have a draft but do not want to confuse people by releasing it at this time. Once the main document is out we want to work with EO to complete this.

#10 Quick Tips. EO did a great job of this last time. We would like to help you to do this rather than do one ourselves. We think this would be good to do in conjunction with the SIMPLE version above.

The 12 guidelines are a good starting point.

We have reworked the entire document to make it shorter and easier to read and understand with different levels of expertise. This includes

Easier language to understand
- Wrote simpler guidelines
- Removed as many technical terms (jargon) as possible replacing them with plainer language or, where possible, their definitions
- Eliminated several new or unfamiliar terms. (authored unit, etc.)
- Removed the term Baseline and replaced it with “web technologies that are accessibility supported�? and then defined what it means to be accessibility supported.
- Removed the nesting of definitions where we could (i.e. definitions that pointed to other definitions)
- Tried to word things in manners that are more understandable to different levels of Web expertise
- Added short names/handles on each success criterion to make them easier to find and compare etc.
- Simplified the conformance

Shortening the document overall
- Shortened the introduction
- Moved much of the discussion out of the guidelines and put it in the Understanding WCAG 2.0 document
- Shortened the conformance section and moved it after the guidelines
- Moved mapping from WCAG 1 to a separate support document (so it can be updated more easily)

Creating a Quick Practitioner-oriented Summary / Checklist-like document
- Created a Quick Reference document that has just the Guidelines, success criteria and the techniques for meeting the success criteria.
yes
LC-1008 Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org> on behalf of W3C/WAI, on behalf of the Education and Outreach Working Group (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: editorial
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

The \"Quick Table of Contents\" at the start of the introduction section is confusing; it\'s unclear whether this is for the section or for the whole document.


Proposed Change:

Clarify that the intro section is part of a set of pages. Please see detailed comment and suggestions on re-wording at: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-eo/2006AprJun/0109.html
We have removed the multi-part version of the guidelines, so the "Quick Table of Contents" is no longer present. However, we will take these recommendations into consideration as we develop other views of the WCAG 2.0 supporting materials. yes
LC-1009 Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org> on behalf of W3C/WAI, on behalf of the Education and Outreach Working Group (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: editorial
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

The confusion between the Intro page & the whole WCAG 2.0 continues in the \"Related Documents\" subsection



Proposed Change:
Clarify there that \"this document\" refers to the whole set of WCAG 2.0 pages. E.g., these are the things w/in WCAG 2.0, and then these are the things outside of WCAG 2.0 (or the WCAG 2.0 TR doc)
We have completely revised this section of the Introduction and believe that this issue has been addressed. yes
LC-1010 Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org> on behalf of W3C/WAI, on behalf of the Education and Outreach Working Group (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: editorial
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

The amount of jargon in the introduction makes it less helpful than possible as introductory material; for instance, "conformance", "success criteria", "how to meet links", "intent",
"sufficient techniques", "baseline assumptions."


Proposed Change:

Copyedit for increased use of plain English explanations; and/or introduce the jargon later in the introduction.
We have reworked the entire document to make it shorter and easier to read. This includes:
- Shortening the introduction
- Moving much of the discussion out of the guidelines and puttin it in the Understanding WCAG 2.0 document
- Shortening the conformance section and moving it after the guidelines
- Writing simpler guidelines
- Removing as many technical terms (jargon) as possible, replacing them with simpler language or their definitions
- Removing the nesting of definitions where we could (i.e. definitions that pointed to other definitions)
- Moving information about mapping between WCAG 1 and WCAG 2 to a separate support document (so it can be updated more easily)
- Creating a Quick Reference documents that has just the Guidelines, success criteria and the techniques for meeting the success criteria.
- Trying to word things in manners that are more understandable to different levels of Web expertise
- Adding short names/handles on each success criterion to make them easier to find and compare etc.
- Simplifying the conformance section
- Using plainer language wherever possible (e.g. – use “Web page�? instead of “Web Unit�?)
- Eliminating several new or unfamiliar terms. (authored unit, etc.)
- Making the whole document much shorter.
yes
LC-1012 Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org> on behalf of W3C/WAI, on behalf of the Education and Outreach Working Group (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: editorial
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

The fourth bulleted item (\"How to meet\" links to information on intent..\") is hard to parse

Proposed Change:

Re-word the fourth bulleted item for readability, for instance \"Each success criteria contains links to how to meet that criteria\"
We have revised this item to read as follows:
"How to Meet" links to information about how to meet each success criterion, including a description of the intent of the success criterion, sufficient techniques for meeting it, examples, and benefits."
yes
LC-1013 Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org> on behalf of W3C/WAI, on behalf of the Education and Outreach Working Group (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: editorial
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

The penultimate paragraph (\"Several success criteria require...\") is difficult to understand and contains more detail than seems necessary or appropriate for an introduction.




Proposed Change:

Copyedit to clarify and simplify.
We have rewritten the paragraph to be simpler and we have removed the examples of transformations that could be performed by user agents. yes
LC-1240 Kiyochika Nakamura <nakamura-kiyochika@mitsue.co.jp> on behalf of Mitsue-Links Co., Ltd. (archived comment)
Comment: In example 3, the Japanese phrase after the round bracket, "ã?©ã?†ã?™ã‚‹ã?“ã?¨ã‚‚ã?§ã??ã?ªã??ã?ªã‚Šã€?ã?‚ã??らã‚?ã‚‹ã?“ã?¨", is the meaning of the phrase "ã?•ã?˜ã‚’投ã?’ã‚‹". Therefore, it doesn't need to be inserted here. Also, this Japanese expression is a present form. So, either changing the Japanese phrase into past tense or the English sentense into present form is needed.

Proposed Change:

Remove the characters between the round bracket and the closing double quotation mark (including the round bracket.) Then, either change "��を投�る" into "��を投��", or English verbs into past forms.
Thank you for pointing this out. We've deleted the explanation in parenthesis and have fixed some grammatical errors in the example based on other comments. The example now reads, "Example 3: In Japanese, the phrase "��を投�る" literally translates into "he throws a spoon". But it means that there is nothing he can do and finally he gives up." yes
LC-733 Lachlan Hunt <lachlan.hunt@lachy.id.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: ED
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

COMMENT 1

1) W2

2) Abstract

3) N/A

4) E

5) Poor use of grammar in the following sentence. \"usable to\" should be
changed to \"usable by\".

\"Accessible\" means usable to a wide range of people with
disabilities...

6) \"Accessible\" means usable [by] a wide range of people with
disabilities...

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COMMENT 2

1) W2

2) Introduction

3) N/A

4) E

5) Poor use of grammar in the following sentence. \"usable to\" should be changed to \"usable by\".

Following these guidelines will also make your Web content
more usable to many other users, including...

6) Following these guidelines will also make your Web content
more usable [by] many other users, including...

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COMMENT 3

1) W2

2) Related Documents


3) Application Notes

4) E

5) Remove the extraneous comma before the word \"and\" from the following sentence:

For example, an application note on forms will provide a collection of techniques, and strategies for creating accessible forms.

6) For example, an application note on forms will provide a collection of techniques and strategies for creating accessible forms.

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COMMENT 4

1) W2

2) The Four Principles of Accessibility

3) N/A

4) E

5) Remove the extraneous comma before the word \"and\" from the following sentence:

WCAG 2.0 offers information about how to increase the ability of people with disabilities to perceive, operate, and understand Web content.

6) WCAG 2.0 offers information about how to increase the ability of people with disabilities to perceive, operate and understand Web content.

Proposed Change:
The draft has been updated to include these revisions. yes
LC-613 Lisa Seeman 3 <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of Invited expert at W3C, UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0137.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/att-0137/wcagform3ch.html

Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

To get to CR (candidate recommendation we believe two things are required.
1, Concrete checkpoints or list of requirements
2, Tests that completion of the minimum requirements of success criteria at each level will make sites progressively usable for people with disabilities listed in the overview.

Proposed Change:

Create a list of "what to do" checkpoint
We have released the Quick Reference document (http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/quickref/) which provides a compact list of the success criteria (the checklist items for WCAG 2.0) with the techniques that are sufficient listed directly beneath them. Each technique has a test that can be used to confirm implementation.

If you mean that we need a checklist for getting to CR, there is a list of things that must be met in W3C Process Document.

With regard to your second point, this type of testing is beyond what can be done in CR. This would be an interesting research project but would require considerable funding.
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LC-615 Lisa Seeman 3 <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of Invited expert at W3C, UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0137.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/att-0137/wcagform3ch.html

Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

The claim in http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/Overview.html learning difficulties, cognitive limitations,

However the checkpoints towards understandability even at level 3 addresses only secondary education level – in other word usable for mainstream people without these disabilities. The basic mechanism for simplifications have not been included, or use of symbols or conversion to symbols. Also left out are use for controlled languages

The result: I read a lot of complex specification. I am even writing W3C specifications, but WXAG is the only on that I can not follow though because of my disability. I can understand the concepts, but the presentation requires remembering what technique 3.1.3 was for, and then (if I forgot what 3.2.3 stood for, going back to the original guidelines finding it, hopefully not confusing it with 1..3.2 etc – why because WCAG are following there own specifications, so I, as a person with a disability, can not use their material.

to say “this document contains principles, guidelines, and success criteria that define and explain the requirements for making Web-based information and applications accessible� and to include learning difficulties, cognitive limitations is an insult to anyone with learning memory or cognitive impairments. there are many clear sets of guidelines that do that. WCAG is not one of them.

Proposed Change:

Practical proposal – state clearly that learning difficulties, cognitive limitations are not fully addressed beyond a very limited way. Then work on a extended guideline, be it optional and untestable, success criteria that does the job.
We have added language to the Introduction, the Conformance section, and the Quick Reference to highlight the fact that WCAG 2 only addresses some of the needs of people with cognitive, learning, and language disabilities, and to call out the need for more research in this area. WAI is exploring ways in which to support and encourage work in this important area.

We have added some best practices for cognitive, learning, and language disabilities as advisory techniques, and we have proposed 3 new success criteria in this area.
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LC-620 Lisa Seeman 4 <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of Invited expert at W3C, UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/0137.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006May/att-0137/wcagform4ch.html

Comment (including rationale for any proposed change):

This document contains principles, guidelines, and success criteria that define and explain the requirements for making Web-based information and applications accessible. "Accessible" means usable to a wide range of people with disabilities, including blindness and low vision, deafness and hearing loss, learning difficulties, cognitive limitations...

I am not sure that if pages are fixed to comply to WCAG they will be more accessible to LD

Proposed Change:

Change to exclude Learning disabilities.
We have added language to the Introduction, the Conformance section, and the Quick Reference to highlight the fact that WCAG 2 only addresses some of the needs of people with cognitive, learning, and language disabilities, and to call out the need for more research in this area. WAI is exploring ways in which to support and encourage work in this important area.

We have added some best practices for cognitive, learning, and language disabilities as advisory techniques, and we have proposed 3 new success criteria in this area.
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LC-866 Lisa Seeman <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006Jun/0131.html

Part of Item:
Comment Type: general comment
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Are we OK with the support robust technology section?

To me , if I were reading a guideline to support robust technology I would expect: Support more then one operating system. Or support at least on free operating system, and free useragents were possible. Use technologies that support more then one independent assistive technology . That type of thing...

When they say something can be parsed - they do not say by who - is it some proprietary format that only works on one environment?



Proposed Change:
To make this requirement easier to understand, we have reworded SC 4.1.1 to clarify that it must be possible to parse content without the need for user agent repair. The revised SC reads as follows:

4.1.1 Content implemented using markup languages has elements with complete start and end tags, except as allowed by their specifications, and are nested according to their specifications. (Level A)

Note: Start and end tags that are missing a critical character in their formation, such as a closing angle bracket or a mismatched attribute value quote are not complete.
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LC-868 Lisa Seeman <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006Jun/0132.html

Part of Item:
Comment Type: general comment
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):


The success criteria a are not stable in the future, and do not capture everything that you need to do. They are the testable aspects of current conformance
I think this limitation needs to be emphersized. Specicly
Success criteria by themselves do not necciraly mean that the piont of the giudline was acheived

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Proposed Change:

Why not putting rules of thumb in the guidelines themselves? Success criteria are only measurable aspects of a rule of thumb.
People should not turn success criteria into a checklist whilst ignoring that.
The success criteria need to be testable or else people cannot tell when they have conformed to the success criteria and thus WCAG 2.0. The document states that more can be done than the SC and provides advisory techniques to that end. We have added more advisory techniques to cover recommendations for which we have not been able to develop testable success criteria. We have also clarified in the introduction that even satisfying all success criteria will not meet the needs of all people with all disabilities. tocheck
LC-870 Lisa Seeman <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006Jun/0133.html

Part of Item:
Comment Type: general comment
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

The success criteria are not stable in the future, and do not capture everything that you need to do. They are the testable aspects of current conformance
I think this limitation needs to be emphasized. Specificly
Success criteria by themselves do not neccesarily mean that the point of the guidleine was achieved-



Proposed Change:



Change the name consistently or currently testable criteria
Since the success criteria are the set of testable statements that can be used in determining conformance to WCAG 2.0, the working group felt that the addition of "consistently" or "currently" would not be helpful in clarifying this issue. However, we have modified the the last paragraph of "The Four Principles of Accessibility" to clarify that meeting the success criterion may not fully address the general principles and guidelines that they relate to, and that additional advisory techniques are provided to go further.

The Understanding WCAG 2.0 document also makes this clear and lists the advisory techniques for guidelines and success criteria. This gives the working group the option of making techniques available to authors that make it possible to go above and beyond the conformance requirements and more completely address the intent of the guidelines and principles.
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LC-871 Lisa Seeman <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006Jun/0136.html

Part of Item:
Comment Type: general comment
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

These are the steps or tasks that have been identified to make script based interfaces operable. This is taken from http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/GUI/roleTaxonomy-20060508.html and was well researched. Without any one of these tasks many interfaces will not be accessible.

My I suggest that we review WCAG to test if these steps are suffiently included and WACG does require each task as described hear. For
for example
3.1.3 Information and relationships conveyed through presentation can be programmatically determined, and notification of changes to these is available to user agents, including assistive technologies.


Does that include all the group identification as necciasy

Anyway, hope this is useful


steps or tasks are as follows......
3.1 How To Build Applications Using Roles
This section is informative.

3.1.1 Step 1: Use your native mark up as well as you can
Use the semantic elements that are defined in the native markup language. For example, if you are using [XHTML] it is better to use the [XHTML] checkbox than to use a div element with role checkbox. Because properly used [XHTML] content is already repurposible, roles are best used when the mark up language does not support all the semantics that you need. When a role is used the semantics and behavior of the element are overridden by the role behavior.

3.1.2 Step 2: Find the right roles
Set roles to make sure elements behave predictably and that correctly describes the behavior of each element within your application (unless elements behaviors are fully described by the native markup language). Roles for interactive elements should support all the states that the element could use.

3.1.3 Step 3: Look for groups
Look for groups within a page, and mark them using the most appropriate role that best describes their usage.

For example: a region of the page that is contains a group of elements that are likely to change through an AJAX application could be tagged as a \"liveregion\".

3.1.4 Step 4: Build relationships
Look for relationships between groups and mark the using the most appropriate property or attribute.

Sometimes the relationships can be made clear via the native mark up language, such as the label tag in [<a href=\"#ref_HTML\">HTML</a>].

Sometimes this can be implied via the DOM. For example, when a well marked up list contains list items it is known that they belong to the containing list. In such cases you do not need to set additional properties to make that explicit.

In other cases use the states and adaptable properties module to state relationships. For example: if a container A contains search results, and container B contains the search controls, the mark each container as a region and set the aaa:controledby property in region B to region A.

3.1.5 Step 5: Set properties
Set properties until the behavior of the element is defined.
Control the behavior of the element using device independent events, states, and properties.
Extra states and properties have been provided by the States and Adaptable Properties Module. For example: If the user is required to fill in a form element set the aaa:required property to true.

An important addition in the States and Adaptable Properties Module is new extensions of TABINDEX. Now, with the TABINDEX change, the author is allowed to give any element keyboard focus (and not just form elements or anchors). In this paradigm shift, the user experience should be to use tabbing or keyboard mnemonics to move focus to widgets on the web page and then use the arrow keys to navigate the object.

Example: building a tree view in XHTML 1.0
This section is informative.



A basic tree view allows the user to select different list items and expand and collapse embedded lists. Arrow keys are used to navigate through a tree, including left/right to collapse/expand sub trees. Double clicking with mouse also toggles expansion.

Step one: Look at your native mark up language
There is no a tree element in [XHTML] 1.0 that supports our behavior including expansion, so we will need to use roles. Therefore, our first step is setting roles.

Step two: Finding the right roles
Our tree will need roles that support embedded list behavior and expandable/collapsible embedded lists. The roles that support tree behavior for a tree are:

Tree: the main container element for our treeA form of a Select (or, generally, of a list having groups inside groups) - where sub trees can be collapsed and expanded.

Treegroup: This is a group of sibling tee items that have a common parent. Intended use is for creating groups of treeitems within a tree container.

Treeitem: An option item of a tree. This is an element within a tree which may be expanded or collapsed.

Step three and four: Look for groups and build relationships
Tree relationships can be made simply via the Dom and logical structure of your page.

A tree element will be the main container containing all other elements in the tree.

Each selectable item in the tree will be a treeitem

When a tree item contains a embedded list of tree items they will be all embedded in a treegroup. A treegroup should be contained inside the tree item that is the parent item.

Tree relationships are like list relationships in [XHTML]. A treegroup and tree elements act like list containers (OL and UL). A tree item acts like a list item (li) in [XHTML].

Because treeitems and treegroups are commonly both use div elements it is recommended to ad a comment next to closing treeitems that contain embedded tree groups

<div x2:role=\"wairole:tree\" >
<div x2:role=\"wairole:treeitem\" >Veggies
<div x2:role=\"wairole:treegroup\">
<div x2:role=\"wairole:treeitem\">Green
<div x2:role=\"wairole:treegroup\">
<div x2:role=\"wairole:treeitem\">Asparagus</div>
<div x2:role=\"wairole:treeitem\">Kale</div>
<div x2:role=\"wairole:treeitem\" >Leafy
<div x2:role=\"wairole:treegroup\">
<div x2:role=\"wairole:treeitem\">Lettuce</div>
<div x2:role=\"wairole:treeitem\">Kale</div>
<div x2:role=\"wairole:treeitem\">Spinach</div>
<div x2:role=\"wairole:treeitem\">Chard</div>
</div>
</div> ---close leafy
<div x2:role=\"wairole:treeitem\">Green beans</div>
</div>
</div> ---close green
<div x2:role=\"wairole:treeitem\">Legumes</div>
<div x2:role=\"wairole:treeitem\" >Yellow
<div x2:role=\"wairole:treegroup\">
<div x2:role=\"wairole:treeitem\">Bell peppers</div>
<div x2:role=\"wairole:treeitem\">Squash</div>
</div>
</div> ---close yellow
</div>
</div> ---close veggies

</div> ---close tree
Sometimes a tree structure is not explicit via the Dom and logical structure of a page. In such cases the relationships must still be made explicit using the properties module.

Example:

<div x2:role=\"wairole:treeitem\" aaa:haschild=yellowtreegroup�>Yellow<div>
..
<div id=\"yellowtreegroup\" x2:role=\"wairole:treegroup\">
<div x2:role=\"wairole:treeitem\">Bell peppers</div>
<div x2:role=\"wairole:treeitem\">Squash</div>
</div>
Although this is allowed it may affect performance

Step 5: Use properties
Control the behavior of the element using Events and states,

For example, use the aaa name space with supporting scripts to control what tree elements are expanded

<div tabindex=\"-1\" x2:role=\"wairole:treeitem\" aaa:expanded=\"true\">Yellow</div>
And use events to device independent events with supporting javascripts to handle user interaction.

<div x2:role=\"wairole:tree\" tabindex=\"-1\"
onfocus=\"return treeItemFocus(event);\"
onclick=\"return treeItemEvent(event);\"
ondblclick=\"return treeItemEvent(event);\"
onkeydown=\"return treeItemEvent(event);\"
onkeypress=\"return treeItemEvent(event);\">
Then create javascript support to control the event driven behavior or the application.



Proposed Change:
During the development of WCAG 2.0 the Working Group made certain that the success criterion do not prevent the use of Dynamic Web Content Accessibility techniques. We believe that each of the steps you cite are covered by one of the success criterion listed below:

1.3.1: Information and relationships conveyed through presentation can be programmatically determined, and notification of changes to these is available to user agents, including assistive technologies.

2.1.1: All functionality of the content is operable through a keyboard interface without requiring specific timings for individual keystrokes, except where the underlying function requires input that depends on the path of the user's movement and not just the endpoints.

4.1.1: Content implemented using markup languages has elements with complete start and end tags, except as allowed by their specifications, and are nested according to their specifications.

4.1.2: For all user interface components, the name and role can be programmatically determined, states, properties, and values that can be set by the user can be programmatically determined and programmatically set, and notification of changes to these items is available to user agents, including assistive technologies.

The steps in your example map to one or more success criteria:
Step 1: Use your native mark up as well as you can is covered by SC 1.3.1, 4.1.1, and 4.1.2
Step 2: Find the right roles is covered by 4.1.2,
Step 3: Look for groups is covered by 1.3.1, 4.1.1, and 4.1.2. Although these success criteria do not explicitly mention groups, they do cover relationships. This satisfies the group requirement for current technologies such as HTML which do not allow for the addition of specific group roles but do convey the meaning of groups through specific elements such as lists. Dynamic Web Content Accessibility techniques can be used to add roles to HTML when Dynamic Web Content Accessibility technologies are included the baseline.
Step 4: Build relationships is covered by 1.3.1, 4.1.1, and 4.1.2. Again, this may not be as explicit as you would like but is supported by current technologies.
Step 5: Set properties is covered by 4.1.2.
Any requirements for keyboard support are covered by 2.1.1 and 2.1.2.
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LC-877 Lisa Seeman <lisa@ubaccess.com> on behalf of UB access (archived comment)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2006Jun/0149.html

Part of Item:
Comment Type: general comment
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

I think WCAG itself (agendas forms etc) need to be more usable for people with Cognitive Imparments like impaired short term /visual / auditory memory

If we can not make our own system usable then people with these imapairments can nt comment and affect the guidlines

It also clearly shows a lack of understanding of how to make content accessible for people with LD and Cognitive limitatsions


As a side note I have participated in a few W3C groups and I find WCAG the hardest for people with LD to participate in.

If anyone thinks I am unable to undersatnd the concepts they should refier to http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/GUI/roleTaxonomy-20060508.html

It is the presention that makes it inaccessible not the content


Proposed Change:
We have attempted to make our processes and documents more accessible, but recognize that they have a long way to go. We have limited tools and resources and are open to specific suggestions for improvement. tocheck
LC-950 M.F. Laughton <adio@crc.ca> on behalf of Government of Canada (archived comment)
Some of the suggestions made in this submission - if not implemented in W2 - will possibly find inclusion in a future version of the Government of Canada's "Common Look and Feel Policy" for federal Web sites either as standards (requirements) or guidelines (optional/best practices). Unfortunately, this will lead to a "disharmonization" [sic] of standards which is in no-one's best interest.
We have considered your suggestions (and all the others that we have received) very carefully, and have tried hard to address your issues, either in the guidelines or in advisory techniques.

We agree that harmonization among accessibility standards is highly desirable.
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LC-951 M.F. Laughton <adio@crc.ca> on behalf of Government of Canada (archived comment)
The baseline concept is still difficult to comprehend in real-world terms, in spite of progressive reworkings of the baseline explanation in "About Baselines and WCAG 2.0" and the less comprehensible "Conformance" section in W2.
The conformance section of WCAG2 has been completely rewritten. The term "baseline" has been replaced by "accessibility-supported Web technologies". The issue of what it means to be an accessibility-supported Web technology is addressed in the section "Accessibility Support of Web Technologies" at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#accessibility-support . yes
LC-952 M.F. Laughton <adio@crc.ca> on behalf of Government of Canada (archived comment)
This customizable "view" of WCAG 2.0 is far and away the best thing the working group has done for the average end user. We hope this resource continues to be developed and maintained. It is likely to be the main entry point to W2 for many of our users. The opportunity to bypass inapplicable content is irresistable.

Proposed Change:

The same paradigm should be used for future support materials created by the GL working group and/or the Education and Outreach working group.
Thank you.
it is our plan to continue this resource and we also figured that it would be the primary entry point for developers.
yes
LC-1220 Masafumi Nakane <max@wide.ad.jp> on behalf of Keio University (archived comment)
The concept of baselines can greatly improve the flexibility of how authors produce Web content. However, this is true only if appropriate and realistic baselines for the community which the content is targeted can be specified without much difficulty. While this may not be an issue in countries where population of assistive technology users is not so small and there are more than a few accessibility experts, this will be an issue in many places where assistive technologies are not widely deployed or advanced. Therefore, WAI (or W3C) should do its best to encourage important, and trusted players in various communities, such as different disability communities in different countries, to help build typical and reasonable baselines. Otherwise, the baseline concept may be misunderstood and misused, and many conforming, but inaccessible content could be produced.
The conformance section of WCAG2 has been completely rewritten. The term "baseline" has been replaced by "accessibility-supported Web technologies". The issue of what it means to be an accessibility-supported Web technology is addressed in the section " Accessibility Support of Web Technologies" at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#accessibility-support .

WAI definitely encourages knowledgeable players in various communities to evaluate user agent and assistive technology support and determine what technologies are accessibility-supported content technologies for their community. Making this information available to authors would be an extremely important step towards accessible content.
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LC-1221 Masafumi Nakane <max@wide.ad.jp> on behalf of Keio University (archived comment)
Specifying baselines in terms of Web technologies in stead of browsers is reasonable and understandable technically, however, is not realistic.When an author specifies HTML 4.01 and CSS Level 2 in the baseline, for example, that could mean the content can include some HTML elements and/or CSS properties that are not supported by any of existing browsers and still being WCAG compliant. There should be a mechanism to specify the baseline in more detailed manner, probably a way to refer to particular set of functionalities of the technologies in question.
The term "baseline" has been replaced by "accessibility-supported Web technologies". So we would now talk about whether a technology was accessibility supported, instead of whether or not it was in the baseline.

Content must still satisfy the success criteria. The descriptions of the sufficient techniques for different technologies include a section for User Agent Notes. This is where a developer can find information about different User Agents that may not support the technique properly.

When documenting support for "Accessibility Supported Web Technologies", user agent support, including assistive technology support, would definitely be examined and documented. This would be a good place to record limitations in the support for different features. This would provide a more complex description of the accessibility support for the technology.
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LC-1224 Masafumi Nakane <max@wide.ad.jp> on behalf of Keio University (archived comment)
Some multimedia content is accessible even without audio description. They can be understood without any problem from the background sounds, narration, etc. Setting this success criterion to be level 1 or 2 can cause redundancy the information provided in audio, and may hinder the accessibility of such simple content.

Proposed Change:

Make this applicable only to those content that cannot be understood without audio description. There may be a discussion how to determine if piece of content is accessible without audio description, but that should be as easy as determining if added audio description insufficient to make the content accessible.
If the audio track provides full information about the video (as in your example) then it is accessible already and no Audio Description would be necessary. We have added a note to G78: Providing a sound track that includes audio description that describes this exception. tocheck
LC-1225 Masafumi Nakane <max@wide.ad.jp> on behalf of Keio University (archived comment)
Is there any scientific fact that supports luminosity contrast ration of5:1 is sufficient? Unless this is a scientifically proven ration and isn’t likely to be changed in future, such a value should not be included in a normative part of the document.
The 5:1 contrast ratio provides a minimum contrast of around 3:1 for the major types of color blindness. A contrast ratio of 3:1 is the minimum level recommended by ANSI/HFS 100-1988. 10:1 provides approximately 7:1 contrast ratio for individuals with color blindness, which is the recommended contrast level in ANSI/HFS 100-1988.

We have added the following to the Intent sections of SC 1.4.1 and 1.4.4:

The 5:1 contrast ratio provides a minimum contrast of around 3:1 for the major types of color blindness. A contrast ratio of 3:1 is the minimum level recommended by [ISO-9241-3] and [ANSI-HFES-100-1988].

Calculations in ISO 9241-3 and ANSI/HFS 100-1988 are for body text. A relaxed contrast ratio is provided for text that is much larger (twice as tall and with three time the thickness of lines in the character).

Notes on formula

Conversion from nonlinear to linear RGB values is based on IEC/4WD 61966-2-1 [IEC-4WD] and on "A Standard Default Color Space for the Internet - sRGB" [sRGB].

The formula (L1/L2) for contrast is based on ISO 9241-3 and ANSI/HFS 100-1988 standards.

The ANSI/HFS 100-1988 standard calls for the contribution from ambient light to be included in the calculation of L1 and L2. The .05 value used is based on Typical Viewing Flare from IEC/4WD 61966-2-1 and the sRGB paper by M. Stokes et al.

This success criterion and its definitions uses the terms contrast ratio and relative luminance rather than luminance to reflect the fact that Web content does not emit light itself. The contrast ratio gives a measure of the relative luminance that would result when displayed. (Because it is a ratio, it is dimensionless.)

Note: Refer to related resources for a list of tools that utilize the contrast ratio to analyze the contrast of Web content.
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LC-1226 Masafumi Nakane <max@wide.ad.jp> on behalf of Keio University (archived comment)
Is there any scientific fact that supports luminosity contrast ration of10:1 is sufficient? Unless this is a scientifically proven ration and isn’t likely to be changed in future, such a value should not be included in a normative part of the document.
The 10:1 contrast ratio provides a minimum contrast of around 7:1 for the major types of color blindness. A contrast ratio of 7:1 is recommended by [ANSI-HFES-100-1988].

We have added the following to the Intent sections of SC 1.4.1 and 1.4.4:

Calculations in ISO 9241-3 and ANSI/HFS 100-1988 are for body text. A relaxed contrast ratio is provided for text that is much larger (twice as tall and with three time the thickness of lines in the character).

Notes on formula

Conversion from nonlinear to linear RGB values is based on IEC/4WD 61966-2-1 [IEC-4WD] and on "A Standard Default Color Space for the Internet - sRGB" [sRGB].

The formula (L1/L2) for contrast is based on ISO 9241-3 and ANSI/HFS 100-1988 standards.

The ANSI/HFS 100-1988 standard calls for the contribution from ambient light to be included in the calculation of L1 and L2. The .05 value used is based on Typical Viewing Flare from IEC/4WD 61966-2-1 and the sRGB paper by M. Stokes et al.

This success criterion and its definitions uses the terms contrast ratio and relative luminance rather than luminance to reflect the fact that Web content does not emit light itself. The contrast ratio gives a measure of the relative luminance that would result when displayed. (Because it is a ratio, it is dimensionless.)

Note: Refer to related resources for a list of tools that utilize the contrast ratio to analyze the contrast of Web content.
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LC-1228 Masafumi Nakane <max@wide.ad.jp> on behalf of Keio University (archived comment)
Is there any scientific fact that supports 20db is sufficient? Unless this is a scientifically proven value and is not likely to be changed in future, such a value should not be included in a normative part of the document.
There are a number of studies that this is based on. One is the Report done for the Access Board in 1999. In that study, 75% of the subjects needed a S/N of 18 dB to be minimally acceptable. http://www.hearingresearch.org/Pubs/Access_Bd_Final_Report.pdf

The most recent is Interference in Hearing Aids from Digital Wireless
Telephones by Levitt, Kozma-Spytek, and Harkins in Seminars in Hearing/Volume 26, Number 2, 2005. It found that a signal to noise ratio of 32 to 28 db was needed for 90% to find phones highly usable, 24 to 20 db for 90% to for minor limitation on use and 15 to 12 db for Major Limitation of use.
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LC-1230 Masafumi Nakane <max@wide.ad.jp> on behalf of Keio University (archived comment)
Is there any scientific fact that supports the figures given in this success criterion (10 times, 20 seconds) are sufficient? Unless these are scientifically proven values and are not likely to be changed in future, such values should not be included in a normative part of the document.

CLARIFICATION FROM Makoto Ueki: Nakane-san wanted to say that WG should explain the reason why the number is chosen more clearly in the documents. If WG doesn't do that, for example, a web developer only can say "WCAG 2.0 says so." to the client. He doesn't want the number to be removed.
It is not clear what you mean by scientific fact. There is no number that is sufficient for all users. For some individuals, these values would not be enough. For others, they are. Still others do not need values this high. Removal of the numbers would make the success criterion untestable, so that is not an option. In the opinion of those on the working group and those consulted who work with populations with timing problems, these figures are sufficient to cover most users and the numbers harmonize with other accessibility standards efforts.

The following text has been added to the "how to meet" document for 2.2.1 to provide more information on the numbers used.

* 10 times the default was chosen based on clinical experience and other guidelines. For example, if 15 seconds is allowed for a user to respond and hit a switch, 150 seconds would be sufficient to allow almost all users to hit a switch even if they had trouble.

* 20 seconds was also based on clinical experience and other guidelines. 20 seconds to hit 'any switch' is sufficient for almost all users including those with spasticity. Some would fail, but some would fail all lengths of time. A reasonable period for requesting more time is required since an arbitrarily long time can provide security risks to all users, including those with disabilities, for some applications. For example, with kiosks or terminals that are used for financial transactions, it is quite common for people to walk away without signing off. This leaves them vulnerable to those walking up behind them. Providing a long period of inactivity before asking, and then providing a long period for the person to indicate that they are present can leave terminals open for abuse. If there is no activity the system should ask if the user is there. It should then ask for an indication that a person is there ('hit any key') and then wait long enough for almost anyone to respond. For "hit any key" 20 seconds would meet this. If the person indicates that they are still present, the device should return the user to the exact condition that existed before it asked the question.
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LC-1231 Masafumi Nakane <max@wide.ad.jp> on behalf of Keio University (archived comment)
Is there any scientific fact that supports 3 seconds is sufficient? Unless this is a scientifically proven value and is not likely to be changed in future, such a value should not be included in a normative part of the document.
This guideline is designed to prevent people with attention deficit disorders from being unable to access a page because of blinking text. However being able to use blinking to draw attention to important information is helpful to many people including people with cognitive disabilities. The three seconds was selected as a testable length of time that was long enough to attract attention, but not too long a time for people to wait it out. tocheck
LC-1232 Masafumi Nakane <max@wide.ad.jp> on behalf of Keio University (archived comment)
While 2.3.1 is written using the terms "general flash threshold" and� red flash threshold", this success criterion is written with a specific number. Since the UW document is informative, and those values can be changed if needed, this way of writing could cause future inconsistency. If there is any possibility of these values to be changed in future, the specific values should not be mentioned in a normative part of the document.
This number is based on extensive research by multiple researchers. The number comes from existing broadcast standards. This success criterion addresses the problem of consumer that might enlarge parts of the screen. By satisfying this success criterion, users can meet accepted guidelines for avoiding photosensitive seizures even if they enlarge flashing areas of the screen. These numbers are based on human physiology (not technology) so it is unlikely that these numbers will change. tocheck
LC-1233 Masafumi Nakane <max@wide.ad.jp> on behalf of Keio University (archived comment)
When a Web unit is not valid, or not conforming to a specification, how can one be sure if the Web unit is able to be parsed unambiguously?
To make this requirement easier to understand, we have reworded SC 4.1.1 as follows:

Content implemented using markup languages has elements with complete start and end tags, except as allowed by their specifications, and are nested according to their specifications.

Note: Start and end tags that are missing a critical character in their formation, such as a closing angle bracket or a mismatched attribute value quote are not complete.

The working group looked at this topic carefully over an extended period of time and concluded that requiring strict adherence to all aspects of specifications does not necessarily result in an increase in accessibility. For example, it is possible to create invalid pages that present no accessibility barriers. It is also possible in certain situations to enhance accessibility through the use of markup that is not part of the specification.

The working group must work within its charter and only include things that directly affected accessibility. Some aspects of "use technologies according to specification" and validity do relate to accessibility. However, others do not. So requiring validity would take us beyond our charter. We do recommend it though and it is our #1 technique listed for conforming to SC 4.1.1.
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LC-884 Monica Løland, The Danish Council of Organisations of Disabled People (DSI) <mol@handicap.dk> on behalf of The Danish Council of Organisations of Disabled People (DSI) (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: general comment
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

In general DSI would like to point out that some of the new terms and their definitions makes the language used in WCAG 2.0 difficult to understand, especially for foreigners and consequently difficult to translate into other languages.

Proposed Change:

Simplify the language and carefully explain new terms.
We have reworked the entire document to make it shorter and easier to read. This includes:
- Shortening the introduction
- Moving much of the discussion out of the guidelines and puttin it in the Understanding WCAG 2.0 document
- Shortening the conformance section and moving it after the guidelines
- Writing simpler guidelines
- Removing as many technical terms (jargon) as possible, replacing them with simpler language or their definitions
- Removing the nesting of definitions where we could (i.e. definitions that pointed to other definitions)
- Moving information about mapping between WCAG 1 and WCAG 2 to a separate support document (so it can be updated more easily)
- Creating a Quick Reference documents that has just the Guidelines, success criteria and the techniques for meeting the success criteria.
- Trying to word things in manners that are more understandable to different levels of Web expertise
- Adding short names/handles on each success criterion to make them easier to find and compare etc.
- Simplifying the conformance section
- Using plainer language wherever possible (e.g. – use “Web page� instead of “Web Unit�)
- Eliminating several new or unfamiliar terms. (authored unit, etc.)
- Making the whole document much shorter.
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LC-885 Monica Løland, The Danish Council of Organisations of Disabled People (DSI) <mol@handicap.dk> on behalf of The Danish Council of Organisations of Disabled People (DSI) (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: editorial
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Success criteria 1.1.1 is difficult to parse. When using the phrase “One of the following is true� to a criteria where several of the following can be true, if different types of non-text content are used, the criteria can be misinterpreted. DSI recommend that the phrasing of parallel logical conditions should be consistent across all success criteria. In 2.2.1 the phrase is used correctly.

Proposed Change:

We mean that the success criteria of 1.1.1 should be rephrased or split up into several success criteria.
We have modified 1.1.1 as follows:

1.1.1 Non-text Content: All non-text content has a text alternative that presents equivalent information, except for the situations listed below.

* Controls-Input: If non-text content is a control or accepts user input, then it has a name that describes its purpose. (See also Guideline 4.1 Maximize compatibility with current and future user agents, including assistive technologies )
* Media, Test, Sensory: If non-text content is multimedia , live audio-only or live video-only content, a test or exercise that must be presented in non-text format , or primarily intended to create a specific sensory experience , then text alternatives at least identify the non-text content with a descriptive text label. (For multimedia, see also Guideline 1.2 Provide synchronized alternatives for multimedia .)
* CAPTCHA: If the purpose of non-text content is to confirm that content is being accessed by a person rather than a computer, then text alternatives that identify and describe the purpose of the non-text content are provided and alternative forms in different modalities are provided to accommodate different disabilities.
* Decoration, Formatting, Invisible: If non-text content is pure decoration, or used only for visual formatting, or if it is not presented to users, then it is implemented such that it can be ignored by assistive technology
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LC-889 Monica Løland, The Danish Council of Organisations of Disabled People (DSI) <mol@handicap.dk> on behalf of The Danish Council of Organisations of Disabled People (DSI) (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: general comment
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

WCAG 2.0 introduces the new term baseline in the conformance section which is difficult to understand.

Proposed Change:

The introduction of the conformance section in WCAG 2.0 should be provided with a clear explanation of what a baseline is and how it should be used. If the term baseline is not understood it might be misused.
The conformance section of WCAG2 has been completely rewritten. The term "baseline" has been replaced by "accessibility-supported Web technologies". The issue of what it means to be an accessibility-supported Web technology is addressed in the section "Accessibility Support of Web Technologies" at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#accessibility-support . tocheck
LC-1372 Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org> on behalf of I18N WG (archived comment)
Comment from the i18n review of:
http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-WCAG20-20060427/

Comment 3
At http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/0606-wcag2/
Editorial/substantive: E
Owner: RI

Location in reviewed document:
Glossary: Natural languages

Comment:
Nit: "Natural languages" -> "Natural language" ?
The draft has been updated as proposed. yes
LC-737 Rick Hill <rrhill@ucdavis.edu> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: GE
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

I for one do not have the time to read all of the WCAG 2 documents in
the 30-day review time-frame that has been provided. Having read Joe
Clark\'s comments at http://www.alistapart.com/articles/
tohellwithwcag2 and http://joeclark.org/access/webaccess/WCAG/ as
well as postings at http://technorati.com/tag/WCAG2. If only 10% of
the issues that are identified on these sites are true, then WCAG 2
is NOT ready for prime time. If it is true that web pages that meet
WCAG 2 need not be valid HTML/XHTML then that is utterly contrary to
the concept of web standards and is a HUGE step in the wrong
direction. I would hope that the WCAG 2 standards build on and
enhance the standards of WCAG 1 that many of us have worked hard to
promote in our work places. Other comments:


1. The provision to define a technology as a “baseline,� is not
useful unless there is either some way to make sure that the
technology is inherently accessible and/or that there are provisions
to provide alternate technologies to provide accessible versions of
the content where the baseline technology fails.

2. Being able to define entire directories of your site as off-limits
to accessibility should only be allowed when the content cannot be
made accessible.

3. The compliance \"levels\" do not seem to have become simpler.
Perhaps more cryptic. And I would like to see a move toward
enforcible standrads rather than merely guidelines (as in what was
attempted with the language of 508).

4. You can’t use offscreen positioning to add labels (e.g., to forms)
that only some people, like users of assistive technology, can
perceive. Everybody has to see them.

5. Source order must match presentation order even at the lowest
level ... why?

6. It would seem that WCAG 2 proposes maintaining separate accessible
and inaccessible versions of the same pages.

Again, I wish I had the time to drop my day-to-day tasks, stop
pushing for web standard design in our environment (including
accessible design) and devote my time to being able to read an
comment on the final WCAG 2 draft. However, the comments from folks
in the know and in the filed have not been encouraging. So, I
decided to drop a line and express my concerns and fears. SInce it
took years for the committee to reach this point, it would seem a
slightly longer review period to allow comment is in order. And one
would hope, if the public (those folks working to promote accessible
design) have real concerns about the standard, then the committee
needs to regroup and address those concerns, not publish a set of
guidelines that will not be accepted or used in practice ...

Proposed Change:
(thank you etc)

Extensive changes have been made in response to the comments received on the last draft of the guidelines.

{insert text regarding validity here}


### include replies from issues 829-834 here
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LC-526 Roger Hudson <rhudson@usability.com.au> (archived comment)
Item Number: (none selected)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: ED
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

Currently the introduction identifies cognitive limitations as one of the disabilities that WCAG 2 addresses. Unlike WCAG 1.0, WCAG 2 gives only scant recognition to the needs of people with disabilities.

Proposed Change:

Either improve WCAG 2.0 or remove the suggestion that the needs of people with cognitive limitations (or difficulties) will be met.
We have added language to the Introduction, the Conformance section, and the Quick Reference to highlight the fact that WCAG 2 only addresses some of the needs of people with cognitive, learning, and language disabilities, and to call out the need for more research in this area. WAI is exploring ways in which to support and encourage work in this important area.

We have added some best practices for cognitive, learning, and language disabilities as advisory techniques, and we have proposed 3 new success criteria in this area.
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LC-528 Roger Hudson <rhudson@usability.com.au> (archived comment)
Item Number: Important New Terms Used in WCAG 2.0
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

The number of guidelines that use the term "programmatically determined" concerns me. At best the glossary definition of "programmatically determined"Â? is perfunctory and the term looks to me like an example of "weasel words". A simple change to the meaning of "programmatically determined" could have a profound impact on the meaning of some important guidelines. How and who will be responsible for redefining words?

Proposed Change:

Avoid wherever possible the use of specialist terms that have the potential to qualify or distort the meaning of guidelines.

Provide a clear, unambiguous and understandable definition for all specialist terms.
Terms like "programmatically determined" are defined in the glossary, which is normative. The definitions cannot be changed without submitting updated drafts to W3C process, which requires review by the WCAG WG, the general public and the W3C.

Much effort was put into the definition of programmatically determined. We have examined it again and tried to make it easier to understand by adding some examples to the definition. The current definition, at
http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#programmaticallydetermineddef , is :

programmatically determined

determined by software from author-supplied data provided in a way that different user agents, including assistive technologies, can extract and present this information to users in different modalities

Example: Determined in a mark-up language from elements and attributes that are accessed directly by commonly available assistive technology.

Example: Determined from technology-specific data structures in a non-mark-up language and exposed to assistive technology via an accessibility API that is supported by commonly available assitive technology.
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LC-530 Roger Hudson <rhudson@usability.com.au> (archived comment)
Item Number: Technology assumptions and the
Part of Item:
Comment Type: GE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

The introduction of the “baseline� could result in some web content providers believing that it is acceptable to provide content that will be inaccessible to some people with disabilities. It appears that under WCAG 2.0, a site developer or some higher authority (eg Government regulator) can set a baseline using W3C and non-W3C technologies so long as there are “assumed� accessible user agents that support them.

WCAG 2.0 allows develops to "assume"Â? a technology will be supported and provides no guidance on what this assumption should be based on. In addition, there is no definition of what constitutes an "accessible user agent"Â?. Are the early versions of PDF and Flash plug-ins accessible user agents? Or, only more recent versions? And, who decides whether a current or future user agent is accessible or not?

The guidelines provide examples of assistive technologies, but there appears to be no requirement for a nominated baseline technology to be supported by a significant proportion of assistive technologies that are in current use.

With WCAG 2.0 it appears that it will be up to the person with a disability to obtain (purchase) the technology, which the site proprietor deems appropriate, in order to access a site, rather than the responsibility of the site proprietor to ensure their content is accessible to users of a wide range of assistive technologies. Such a requirement is unreasonable, especially given the high unemployment rate among people with disabilities, and it is also not in accord with "beneficial"Â? approaches to disability such as those adopted in disability discrimination legislation. Such approaches recognise that everyone has a responsibility to make society more universally accessible.

Finally, I am concerned the introduction of the proposed "baseline"Â? concept will place a greater burden on organizations who are responsible for promoting and ensuring best practice in the area of website accessibility, in many different countries.

Proposed Change:

In my view the whole baseline concept needs to be revisited. However, since this is unlikely I would like to suggest the Working Group considers the following.

1. Avoid the use of the words "assume" and "assumed"Â?. If they are used, provide a clear indication of what can and cannot be assumed.

2. Define what is meant by an accessible user agent (as distinct from a user agent).

3. Include a requirement for all technologies used on a site to be supported by a wide range of assistive devices that are at least one generation older than the version in current release. (Clearly there will be a need to indicate what is a "wide range" and the number is likely to be different for different technologies - eg for screen readers perhaps it might be four programs whereas for magnifiers it might just be two.)
The conformance section of WCAG2 has been completely rewritten. The term "baseline" has been replaced by "accessibility-supported Web technologies". The issue of what it means to be an accessibility-supported Web technology is addressed in the section " Accessibility Support of Web Technologies", at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#accessibility-support . tocheck
LC-800 Sailesh Panchang <sailesh.panchang@deque.com> on behalf of Deque Systems Inc (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: ED
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

1. Editorial: Refer to How to meet 1.1.1
• If the purpose of non-text content is to confirm that content is being operated by a person rather than a computer, different forms are provided to accommodate
multiple disabilities.
Comment: Do you mean ‘multiple’ disabilities or ‘different’ disabilities / ‘various kinds of disabilities’?


Proposed Change:

Replace ‘multiple’ disabilities with ‘different’ disabilities / ‘various kinds of disabilities’
The bullet has been revised to read:
If the purpose of non-text content is to confirm that content is being accessed by a person rather than a computer, then text alternatives that identify and describe the purpose of the non-text content are provided and alternative forms in different modalities are provided to accommodate different disabilities.
yes
LC-801 Sailesh Panchang <sailesh.panchang@deque.com> on behalf of Deque Systems Inc (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: ED
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Punctuational correction

Proposed Change:

Replace semi-colons with comma as suitable in list item that reads:
• If non-text content is multimedia…
Semicolons have been changed to commas. yes
LC-810 Sailesh Panchang <sailesh.panchang@deque.com> on behalf of Deque Systems Inc (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: ED
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Refer to the term ‘full multimedia text alternative including any interaction ’ :
The term needs to be re-worded to be more meaningful and correct. Consider:
‘text alternative for multimedia ‘
Or
‘text alternative for interactive multimedia ‘


SORRY: I submitted this yesterday (June 14) but used the word \'equivalents\' instead of \'alternative\' as I really intended

Proposed Change:

Refer to the term ‘full multimedia text alternative including any interaction ’ :
The term needs to be re-worded to be more meaningful and correct. Consider:
‘text alternative for multimedia ‘
Or
‘text alternative for interactive multimedia ‘

Its description in the glossary should be
‘document including correctly sequenced descriptions of all visual settings, actions, and non-speech sounds combined with descriptive transcripts of all dialogue. This also applies to multimedia-based interactions, if any, with the user.‘
Our current "full multimedia text alternative" term could be confusing. 'Text alternative for multimedia' doesn't work because we already require one of those in SC 1.1.1 but it is just a label. ‘Text alternative for interactive multimedia ‘ doesn't work because this applies to all multimedia, not just interactive multimedia. We are therefore changing it to "full text alternative for multimedia including any interaction."

The success criterion now reads, "1.2.2 Audio descriptions of video, or a full text alternative for multimedia including any interaction, are provided for prerecorded multimedia."
yes
LC-814 Sailesh Panchang <sailesh.panchang@deque.com> on behalf of Deque Systems Inc (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: QU
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Although the term \'synchronized\' is used in the guideline 1.2, it is not used to describe any of the requirements in the various SC. Why not?
If it is a matter of detail or technique, then why has \'extended\' audio descriptions been explicitly specified against 1.2.6? (By the way I suggested do away with 1.2.6 in an earlier issue I raised.)

Proposed Change:

I think synchronized is a key word and needs to be included in the SC too.
Synchronization is not used because it is inherent in the definition of the terms used in the success criteria except for SC 1.2.7. "Captions", "audio description" and "interpretation" all require simultaneity. For SC 1.2.7, the parallel issue is handled by the definition of "full multimedia text alternative including any interaction". yes
LC-816 Sailesh Panchang <sailesh.panchang@deque.com> on behalf of Deque Systems Inc (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: ED
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Current wording:
1.3.3 When the sequence of the content affects its meaning, that sequence can be
programmatically determined.

Wording can be better.


Proposed Change:

1.3.3. When content needs to be presented in a particular order to convey logical sequence (/ meaning ??), the sequence can be programmatically determined
To clarify that SC 1.3.2 (formerly 1.3.3) is about sequential reading order of content, SC 1.3.2 was worded: "When the sequence in which content is presented affects its meaning, a correct reading sequence can be programmatically determined and sequential navigation of interactive components is consistent with that sequence." yes
LC-961 Shawn Henry <shawn@w3.org> on behalf of W3C WAI (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: editorial
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Editorial suggestions

Proposed Change:

note: some similar suggestions for other appendices and so any changes should be synched

suggestion: unbold \"Note:\" and \"Example:\" (rationale: with them bold my eye is drawn from the bold term to the bold Note or Example, bypassing the actual definition. also makes it harder to skim the terms )

suggestion: remove the numbers from the notes and examples -- e.g., instead of \"Note 1:\", \"Note 2:\", \"Note 3:\" just have \"Note:\", \"Note:\", Note:\".. (rationale: simplifies, makes more friendly and less engineering-like and formal)

suggestion: consider putting the referenced terms in regular font style, not italic (rationale: simplify visual design). consider using standard link colours for terms

suggestion: consider removing [brackets] from references. (rationale: simplifies visual design. also some people will not know what the brackets mean and will waste cognitive processing trying to figure it out.)

suggestion: Consider deleting one of the “normative�?s -- from the <h1>: \"Appendix A: Glossary (Normative)\" or from the first sentence: “This section is normative.�? If leave first sentence, change to “Appendix A: Glossary is normative.�?

suggestion: clean up top matter (\"Quick Table of Contents\" extraneous? \"Appendix A: Glossary (Normative)\" repetitive with <h1> and links to self)

question: should the <title> and the <h1> match, or be more similar?
suggestion: unbold \"Note:\" and \"Example:\" (rationale: with them bold my eye is drawn from the bold term to the bold Note or Example, bypassing the actual definition. also makes it harder to skim the terms )

response: We have unbolded both "Note:" and "Example:" throughout.

suggestion: remove the numbers from the notes and examples -- e.g., instead of \"Note 1:\", \"Note 2:\", \"Note 3:\" just have \"Note:\", \"Note:\", Note:\".. (rationale: simplifies, makes more friendly and less engineering-like and formal)

response: Numbering notes is a common practice within standards and makes them easier to reference, so we have decided to keep the numbers. Note that the numbering only appears when multiple notes are present.

suggestion: consider putting the referenced terms in regular font style, not italic (rationale: simplify visual design). consider using standard link colours for terms

response: We have removed the italics from the terms, but have retained the link colors to make it easier to differentiate between links to the glossary and links to other locations.

suggestion: consider removing [brackets] from references. (rationale: simplifies visual design. also some people will not know what the brackets mean and will waste cognitive processing trying to figure it out.)

response: We have removed the square brackets from the links to "How to Meet" at the end of each success criterion. However, the use of square brackets for references (links to the references appendix) is part of the W3C style (http://www.w3.org/2001/06/manual/#References).

suggestion: Consider deleting one of the “normative�?s -- from the <h1>: \"Appendix A: Glossary (Normative)\" or from the first sentence: “This section is normative.�? If leave first sentence, change to “Appendix A: Glossary is normative.�?

response: We have removed the parentheticals "(Informative)" and "(Non-Normative)" from the appendices and have replaced occurrences of non-normative with informative throughout. We have also included links to the glossary definition of informative in the glossary where appropriate.

suggestion: clean up top matter (\"Quick Table of Contents\" extraneous? \"Appendix A: Glossary (Normative)\" repetitive with <h1> and links to self)
question: should the <title> and the <h1> match, or be more similar?

response: The guidelines are no longer split into multiple pages, so the quick TOC and variations between <title> and <h1> are no longer an issue.
yes
LC-962 Shawn Henry <shawn@w3.org> on behalf of W3C WAI (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: editorial
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Editorial suggestions

Proposed Change:

note: some similar suggestions for other appendices and so any changes should be synched

suggestion: Edit first paragraph -- will help with specific suggestions – e.g., “The Web Content Accessibility Guidelines 2.0 Checklist serves as an appendix to Web Content Accessibility Guidelines 2.0 [WCAG20]�? is unnecessary given the title; explain where the “[How to meet]�? links go. Keep in mind that this page will be pointed to, printed, and used as a separate document. Add pointer to Overview of WCAG 2.0 Documents www.w3.org/WAI/intro/wcag20 (which will explain “For many readers, the Checklist provides a quick reference and overview to the information in WCAG 2.0.�? and so probably delete it here.)

suggestion: Use “Informative�? rather than “Non-Normative�? and link “informative�? to the glossary definition. Consider deleting one of them – either from the <h1> or from the first sentence. If leave first sentence, change to “Appendix B: Checklist is informative.�?

suggestion: within table, align top (note with my configuration (Opera at 150%) I see nothing in the first 2 columns at the top of the first table)

suggestion: remove hover colour (rationale: adds unnecessary complexity, complicates colour coding because highlight colour is same at Level 2 colour) note: in Opera 8.5 Windows the entire row is highlighted

suggestion: put a column heading on the first column (“Level�?) and underneath it use either “Level #�? or just “#�? (rather than current “L#�?)

suggestion: remove line under Guideline (rationale: adds visual complexity, unnecessary since all that is under it is table)

suggestion: consider putting the referenced terms in regular font style, not italic (rationale: simplify visual design) consider using standard link colours for terms

suggestion: consider putting the success criteria numbers in regular font style, not italic (rationale: simplify visual design)

question: why not include [Understanding] links for the guidelines?

suggestion: clean up top matter (\"Quick Table of Contents\" extraneous? \" Appendix B: Checklist�? repetitive with <h1> and links to self)

question: should the <title> and the <h1> match, or be more similar?
The checklist has been removed from the WCAG 2.0 appendices. However, a number of the issues raised here have been addressed in responses to suggestions made in other issues. We have also added "Understanding Guideline X.X" links to the guidelines. yes
LC-966 Shawn Henry <shawn@w3.org> on behalf of W3C WAI (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: general comment
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Editorial suggestions

Proposed Change:

note: some similar suggestions for other appendices and so any changes should be synched

suggestion: Use “Informative�? rather than “Non-Normative�? and link “informative�? to the glossary definition. Consider deleting one of them – either from the <h1> or from the first sentence. If leave first sentence, change to “Appendix C: Acknowledgements is informative.�?

suggestion: remove “C.1�? and “C.2�? from the <h2>s (rationale: simpler, friendlier, less formal)

suggestion: clean up top matter (\"Quick Table of Contents\" extraneous? \" Appendix C: Acknowledgements\" repetitive with <h1> and links to self)

question: should the <title> and the <h1> match, or be more similar?

question: should WCAG WG be spelled out? (yes, if consider this separate document, no if consider this a section of large document where it is spelled out in first reference)

suggestion: consider linking WCAG WG to www.w3.org.WAI/GL/
suggestion: Use “Informative�? rather than “Non-Normative�? and link “informative�? to the glossary definition. Consider deleting one of them – either from the <h1> or from the first sentence. If leave first sentence, change to “Appendix C: Acknowledgements is informative.�?

response: We have removed the parentheticals "(Informative)" and "(Non-Normative)" from the appendices and have replaced occurrences of non-normative with informative throughout. We have also included links to the glossary definition of informative in the glossary where appropriate.

suggestion: remove “C.1�? and “C.2�? from the <h2>s (rationale: simpler, friendlier, less formal)

response: We have removed the heading numbering for the appendices.

suggestion: clean up top matter (\"Quick Table of Contents\" extraneous? \" Appendix C: Acknowledgements\" repetitive with <h1> and links to self)
question: should the <title> and the <h1> match, or be more similar?

response: The guidelines are no longer split into multiple pages, so the quick TOC and variations between <title> and <h1> are no longer an issue.

question: should WCAG WG be spelled out? (yes, if consider this separate document, no if consider this a section of large document where it is spelled out in first reference)
suggestion: consider linking WCAG WG to www.w3.org.WAI/GL/

response: We have added a paragraph to this appendix that both spells out the acronym and links to the working group's home page.
yes
LC-967 Shawn Henry <shawn@w3.org> on behalf of W3C WAI (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: general comment
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Editorial suggestions

Proposed Change:

note: some similar suggestions for other appendices and so any changes should be synched

suggestion: Use “Informative�? rather than “Non-Normative�? and link “informative�? to the glossary definition. Consider deleting one of them – either from the <h1> or from the first sentence. If leave first sentence, change to “Appendix D: Comparison of WCAG 1.0 checkpoints to WCAG 2.0 is informative.�?

suggestion: within table, align top (note with my configuration (Opera at 150%) I see nothing in the left column at the top of the first table)

suggestion: combine “New Level 1 requirements in WCAG 2.0 not mapped above�?, “New Level 2…�? and “New Level 3…�? into “WCAG 2.0 Success Criteria not mapped above�? (already have the level at the end of each success criteria) (rationale: groups information better by topic instead of splitting topics across multiple sections)

suggestion: Change column heading “WCAG 2.0 Success Criteria�? to “WCAG 2.0�? since that column includes some techniques and other info

suggestion: capitalize “Checkpoints�? in headings (including <h1>)

suggestion: consider putting the referenced terms in regular font style, not italic (rationale: simplify visual design) consider using standard link colours for terms

suggestion: consider putting the success criteria numbers in regular font style, not italic (rationale: simplify visual design)

suggestion: clean up top matter (\"Quick Table of Contents\" extraneous? \"Appendix D: Comparison of WCAG 1.0 checkpoints to WCAG 2.0\" repetitive with <h1> and links to self)

question: should the <title> and the <h1> match, or be more similar?
The mapping has been removed form the WCAG document itself. Since you and the EOWG WCAG 2.0 Materials Support Task Force will be involved in the creation of transition materials, we are forwarding your comment back to you for consideration in future versions of the mapping. Thanks for taking this on. yes
LC-970 Shawn Henry <shawn@w3.org> on behalf of W3C WAI (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: editorial
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Editorial suggestions

Proposed Change:

note: some similar suggestions for other appendices and so any changes should be synched

suggestion: Use “Informative�? rather than “Non-Normative�? and link “informative�? to the glossary definition. Consider deleting one of them – either from the <h1> or from the first sentence. If leave first sentence, change to “Appendix E: References is informative.�?

suggestion: clean up top matter (\"Quick Table of Contents\" extraneous? \" Appendix E: References\" repetitive with <h1> and links to self)

question: should the <title> and the <h1> match, or be more similar?

question: WCAG20 reference is circular. not sure why it’s there?
suggestion: Use “Informative�? rather than “Non-Normative�? and link “informative�? to the glossary definition. Consider deleting one of them – either from the <h1> or from the first sentence. If leave first sentence, change to “Appendix E: References is informative.�?

response: We have removed the parentheticals "(Informative)" and "(Non-Normative)" from the appendices and have replaced occurrences of non-normative with informative throughout. We have also included links to the glossary definition of informative in the glossary where appropriate.

suggestion: clean up top matter (\"Quick Table of Contents\" extraneous? \" Appendix E: References\" repetitive with <h1> and links to self)
question: should the <title> and the <h1> match, or be more similar?

response: The guidelines are no longer split into multiple pages, so the quick TOC and variations between <title> and <h1> are no longer an issue.

question: WCAG20 reference is circular. not sure why it’s there?

response: We have removed this reference.
yes
LC-987 Shawn Henry <shawn@w3.org> on behalf of W3C WAI (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: general comment
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Organizing by WCAG 1.0 Priorities makes it quite difficult to process the information. Topics (such as forms, tables) are split across different sections and tables. Checkpoints are not in order.

If it was organized as in WCAG 1.0 (that is, numerically), it would be much easier to both understand the differences in how topics are addressed, and to find individual checkpoints.


Proposed Change:

Organize as is in WCAG 1.0, that is, numerically, rather than grouping by priorities.
The mapping has been removed from the WCAG document itself. Since you and the EOWG WCAG 2.0 Materials Support Task Force will be involved in the creation of transition materials, we are forwarding your comment back to you for use in future versions of the mapping.
Thanks for taking this on.
yes
LC-1011 Shawn Henry <shawn@w3.org> on behalf of W3C WAI (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: general comment
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Editorial suggestions for http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/guidelines.html

Proposed Change:


Consider:
* Move <h1> before the Contents list
* Delete “WCAG 2.0 Guidelines�? at the top, which links to itself and is redundant with <title> and <h1>
* Remove line under from “Quick Table of Contents�? and change to something like “Page Contents�?
* In “This section is normative.�? sentence, link “normative�? to glossary definition.
* Re-consider this <title> and <h1> in relationship with http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/Overview.html <title> and <h1>
* When there are no Success Criteria at a level, combine the current heading and sentence into a single heading, e.g.:
instead of:
<h4>Level 2 Success Criteria for Guideline 1.1
<p>(No level 2 success criteria for this guideline.)
have:
<h4>(No Level 2 Success Criteria for Guideline 1.1)
* Put “See also�? links in regular font style, not italic (rationale: simplify visual design). (example: “For multimedia, see also Guideline 1.2 Provide synchronized alternatives for multimedia.�?)
* Consider putting the referenced terms in regular font style, not italic (rationale: simplify visual design). consider using standard link colours for terms
* Consider putting the success criteria numbers in regular font style, not italic (rationale: simplify visual design)
* Move <h1> before the Contents list
* Delete “WCAG 2.0 Guidelines�? at the top, which links to itself and is redundant with <title> and <h1>
* Remove line under from “Quick Table of Contents�? and change to something like “Page Contents�?
* Re-consider this <title> and <h1> in relationship with http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/Overview.html <title> and <h1>

response: The guidelines are no longer split into multiple pages, so the quick TOC and related comments above are no longer an issue.

* In “This section is normative.�? sentence, link “normative�? to glossary definition.

response: We have added the link as proposed.

* When there are no Success Criteria at a level, combine the current heading and sentence into a single heading, e.g.:
instead of:
<h4>Level AA Success Criteria for Guideline 1.1
<p>(No level AA success criteria for this guideline.)
have:
<h4>(No Level AA Success Criteria for Guideline 1.1)

resposne: We have removed the <h4> for empty level AA and AAA sections and replaced with "(No Level X SC for GL X.X)." The reason for not including these as headers was to avoid situations where users would could navigate to headers which contained no content.

* Put “See also�? links in regular font style, not italic (rationale: simplify visual design). (example: “For multimedia, see also Guideline 1.2 Provide synchronized alternatives for multimedia.�?)

response: We have removed the italics from these references.

* Consider putting the referenced terms in regular font style, not italic (rationale: simplify visual design). consider using standard link colours for terms

response: We have removed the italics from the terms, but have retained the link colors to make it easier to differentiate between links to the glossary and links to other locations.

* Consider putting the success criteria numbers in regular font style, not italic (rationale: simplify visual design)

response: We have removed the italics for the SC numbers and handles.
yes
LC-1014 Shawn Henry <shawn@w3.org> on behalf of W3C WAI (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: general comment
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

Suggest re-focusing documents

Proposed Change:


Rough thoughts on content and positioning of the different WCAG 2.0 documents and change suggestions below (revised somewhat since < http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-eo/2006AprJun/0091.html>).
Note: Some of the changes below have already been discussed within the WCAG WG and are planned, and some are my own ideas that have not yet been discussed and are likely to continue to evolve.
High level summary:
- Take all but the minimum out of the /TR/WCAG20 pages, especially moving out a lot of the text from Introduction and Conformance, and moving Checklist and Comparison (“mapping�?) Appendices
- Make /TR/WCAG20 the formal reference only, and direct all informative pointers to the Overview doc, and from there to the UI (next point)
- Create a user interface (UI) to access the “atoms�? of Understanding and Techniques as needed, rather than the primary interaction being through /TR/WCAG20 to the middle of a large docs
Details:
1. /TR/WCAG20: Purpose is formal Technical Specification/W3C Recommendation/Standard that is stable and referenceable. Keep it as simple and succinct as possible. Include only the minimum needed for the actual technical specification. Clearly point to other documents for important information, such as more info on baseline.
Note: Encourage all general references to WCAG to go to the Overview doc <www.w3.org/WAI/intro/wcag20>, and only formal references in policies and such to point to /TR/WCAG20 (and there to also point to the Overview doc as informative).
Changes & Rationale:

The main change I suggest is moving out of the main /TR/WCAG20 Introduction and Conformance pages the Comparison with WCAG 1.0, explanatory examples, and other details. In addition to simplifying the normative doc, this puts the explanatory information where it can be updated to reflect changes over time as necessary. It also limits the need for repetition across documents (e.g., now some information in /TR/WCAG20 Conformance is repeated in About Baselines). I think it also would ensure that people don’t miss important information (since it becomes clear that the /TR/WCAG20 only contains the standards, and all other info is in Understanding).

* Move all information explanatory information not necessary for the technical specification, such as what is listed under “Based on above, I propose moving the following sections out of /TR/WCAG20 Conformance:�? in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-eo/2006AprJun/0091.html

* Move “Appendix B: Checklist�?. Now that the guidelines are so nicely free of extraneous information (i.e., moved extra information that was within the guidelines themselves in WCAG 1.0 to “Understanding 2.0�?), this checklist is not needed as part of /TR/WCAG20. Now http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/appendixB.html pretty much equals http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/guidelines.html and is therefore redundant. (See more with #@@ below)

* Move “Appendix D: Comparison of WCAG 1.0 checkpoints to WCAG 2.0�? from the formal /TR/WCAG20 doc and make it a supporting doc. (See above for rationale, including that it can be more easily edited if outside of the /TR/WCAG20 Recommendation.)

2. Overview </WAI/intro/wcag20>: Purpose is clear, friendly, directive intro and map to WCAG 2.0 docs.

Note: Encourage all general references to WCAG to point to the Overview doc www.w3.org/WAI/intro/wcag20 (and only formal references in policies and such to point to /TR/WCAG20).

Changes:

* Edit to be more effective in this purpose. (Action, Shawn)

3. WCAG 2.0 Quick Reference www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/quickref/: List of requirements and techniques, customizable to make as short and focused as needed for specific situations. This may evolve into the primary tool/doc that most people use most of the time as the main page to WCAG 2.0 information.

Changes:

* Consider additional customization options, such “[ ] Show Common Failures�? to be able to turn them off and shorten the doc.

* Perhaps design this to also replace the Checklist, e.g. by adding:

[ ] Show Techniques

[ ] Include Comment column and checkbox

* Evaluate usability for possible UI improvements.

4. [Checklist </TR/WCAG20/appendixB.html>]: Purpose is quick list for people who already know WCAG 2.0 and want a short list to check off that they’re remembering everything when doing an evaluation, for example. [Other common uses?]

Changes & Rationale:

See under #1 about it being redundant with http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/guidelines.html. The WCAG 1.0 Checklist was very useful as a quick reference and overview of 1.0 guidelines for newbies. This WCAG 2.0 Checklist is not. We already made a Quick Reference, and we might make something for newbies.

I wonder if we want to provide this 2.0 Checklist at all? Perhaps the benefit some people will get from it is not worth the complication of having yet another WCAG 2.0 document? If we do keep it, I think it should be carefully positioned for what it is and what it is not, and not detract from the other documents that might meet most needs better.

5. “Understanding�? [or other title]: Purpose is to provide details for people who want to understand the guidelines in depth.

Changes & Rationale:

* Consider changing title. (I think others have provided rationale and suggestions.)

* Move into this document details on Conformance and Baseline.

* Add brief explanations of the Principles.

* Add pointer to Overview doc near front.

* Develop UI that lets people easily get the “atoms�? of info that they want at a time, and navigate between atoms here, from Techniques, and other related documents as appropriate.

6. Techniques: Purpose is details for implementing. Developers are the main target audience.

Changes:

* Develop UI that lets people easily get the “atoms�? of info that they want at a time, and navigate between atoms here, from Understanding, and other related documents as appropriate.



7. [Application Notes] Purpose is to help developers working on a specific thing, such as images, links, forms, data tables. (Brief description is under http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/wcag20.php#related) Note that I think these should cover just the basics, and point back to “Understanding�? & “Techniques�? for the more complex issues.



8. [Web Accessibility Basics] (document not yet defined) Purpose would be for the average Web developer to be able to understand the basics of Web accessibility under WCAG 2.0. An easy-to-understand list of what one needs to do for a simple site with HTML and CSS.

(Acknowledge that this would have to be very carefully and clearly positioned, since it would not cover all the issues.)

9. [Quick Tips] Purpose is something short that touches on the basics to help people get started on accessibility – to fit on a business-card-sized handout.

10. [About Baselines]: Eliminate this document. Put the pertinent information about baselines in “Understanding�?, as there’s no reason to send people to yet another document for this information. The non-pertinent info that’s there now could go in 11 below.

11. [something like Background, or WG Notes, or History, or FAQ, or…]: Purpose is to communicate reasons why things were done, address some concerns or issues, and such. For example, from About Baselines move to here most of the “Background�? section and “Why wasn\'t UAAG used as baseline?�?.

12. [Transition from WCAG 1.0 to WCAG 2.0] (document not yet defined) Not sure if a single document, or series of documents?

Changes:

* Move “Comparison of WCAG 1.0 checkpoints to WCAG 2.0�? from /TR/WCAG20 appendix to here

* Move why 2.0 Levels different from 1.0 Priorities (currently in WCAG20 Conformance) to here
We believe we have substantially addressed these issues with revisions to the introduction, conformance section, and appendices. yes
LC-890 Shibu.T <shibuonline@cdactvm.in> on behalf of CDAC (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: general comment
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

WCAG 2.0, addresses almost all the open issues against the previous working draft. WCAG 2.0 working draft Guidelines and success criteria are more robust and testable. We\'ve reviewed the draft and have the following suggestions:


Proposed Change:

*The issues of multiple disabled persons should be specified in the Draft.
*All the imperative sentences should be changed to declarative sentences for the easiness of reference.
*Check for the proper usage of the words, ‘Criteria’ (plural) and ‘Criterion’(singular).

*Splitting of words should be avoided for the proper understanding of the users who are using assistive technologies like screen readers and we would like to add this issue to WCAG 2.0.
Regarding multiple disabilities: We aren't specifying disabilities in the guidelines themselves. In the support documents we refer to people by characteristics they may have. Thus a single person may be referred to in different places for having different disabilities. Also, disability pairs like deaf-blindness that have particular significance we try to mention where they are specifically addressed. If you see additional places where we missed a disability-pair, please let us know.

Regarding imperatives: The guidelines (which are general directives) are all imperatives. However all of the success criteria are declaratives. We are keeping the guidelines as imperatives so that they are not confused with the success criteria and so that people do not try to assess them as testable when they are meant to be directive.

Regarding Criteria/Criterion: Thank you. We hope to have caught them all and fixed them. I'm sure we have them all in the guidelines themselves now. If you see any in any of the support documents, just drop us a note any time.

Regarding splitting of words: The working group believes this issue is covered by success criterion 1.3.3, "When the sequence of the content affects its meaning, that sequence can be programmatically determined." Specifically, F32: Failure of SC 1.3.3 due to using white space characters to control spacing within a word (http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-TECHS/Overview.html#F32) illustrates situations where the use of blank characters to visually format individual words will make it difficult for users of assistive technology to understand the content.
yes
LC-1665 Skip Knox <sknox@boisestate.edu> (archived comment)
Augh. RGB?

Most of us use hexadecimal to set colors. That's what I've spent five
years teaching my user base. Now you give a method for determining
luminosity contrast ratios that assume we're setting colors with RGB.

Is there any chance you can also provide a method of calculation in
hex?
The Hex already is RGB.
So this formula works great for what you want to do.
Just take the HEX number and break it into three pieces and use the three
pieces directly (they are R, G and B)
Or you can use one of the tools that do this automatically for you using the
formula.

Here is one tool. They have an updated one with the latest equations and it should appear at this address soon.
http://www.wat-c.org/tools/CCA/LCRA/index.html
yes
LC-511 Steven Faulkner <steven.faulkner@nils.org.au> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: TE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

The success criterion refers to "Text or diagrams". From the definiton of "text" in Appendix A:Glossary, it appears that images of text are not included. This can result in web authors using images of text (with a foreground/background luminosity ratio of less than 5:1) to circumvent this Success criterion.

Proposed Change:

Include an explicit reference to the inclusion of images of text in terms of this success criterion.
The Working Group agrees with this issue and has revised SC 1.4.3 (formerly 1.4.1) and 1.4.5 (formerly 1.4.3) as follows:

SC 1.4.3 Text (and images of text) have a contrast ratio of at least 5:1, except if the text is pure decoration. Larger-scale text or images of text can have a contrast ratio of 3:1.

SC 1.4.5 Text (and images of text) have a contrast ratio of at least 7:1, except if the text is pure decoration. Larger-scale text or images of text can have a contrast ratio of 5:1.

We also added an advisory technique "Using unicode text and style sheets instead of images of text"
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LC-1301 Susan Lesch <lesch@w3.org> (archived comment)
Hello,

Congratulations on Last Call.

I just wanted to mention that fewer documents and terms might aid readers and
implementers. Currently there are so many resources linking to resources
linking to resources (I had this feeling recently on Wikipedia when trying to
find the right way to do something -- I wasn't sure after reading four
different help files if I knew the answer). I apologize for making this
comment because I have not read all of these documents.

The Guidelines might be more focused and accessible to readers if some of the
supplementary steps and documents were eliminated or folded in to annotations
in the spec itself [1]. Again sorry if my assumption here is wrong that
eventually the Recommendation itself is intended to express its goal.

Techniques
Guidelines
Principles
Benefits
Advisories
Situations
Examples
Related Resources
Intents
Additional Techniques (Advisory)
How To
Success Criterion
Common Failures
Essential Components
Overview
About
Glossary
Key Terms
Quick Reference
How to Comment

Hope this helps and if not please feel free to ignore this comment. Good luck
on your project.

[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-WCAG20-20060427/
We have struggled with the large amount of information developed for WCAG2 and the needs for different views of the information. For instance, we need to separate normative from non-normative information. We have attempted to simplify the presentation and number of documents. We hope that the Quick Reference will help users operate primarily out of a single document. yes
LC-1313 Takayuki Watanabe, Makoto Ueki, and Masahiro Umegaki <nabe@lab.twcu.ac.jp> on behalf of JIS WG2 (archived comment)
Comment: Baseline is a good concept. We support this concept because technologies that are considered to be accessible may differ among countries and among user domains. Baseline concept in principle enables us to adopt WCAG 2.0 in various countries.
We hope that the concept of baseline (now accessibility supported Web technologies) will help authors understand the situation for the human language of their content, so that they can create content that will be suitable for their users. tocheck
LC-1314 Takayuki Watanabe, Makoto Ueki, and Masahiro Umegaki <nabe@lab.twcu.ac.jp> on behalf of JIS WG2 (archived comment)
Comment: Baseline concept may cause accessibility degeneracy. We may have Web sites that conform to WCAG 2.0 but inaccessible to users.

Baseline concept separates the responsibility of content from that of user agents, which means content authors do not have to pay attention to what kinds of user agents can access their content but just use some baselines. Content authors can use XHTML 1.0 even if not all major user agents can access the content written in XHTML 1.0. (This is a case in Japan. Major Japanese user agents can not use structure markups of HTML 4.01 and XHTML 1.0.) In WCAG 2.0 this inaccessibility is blamed on user agents. If there are major user agents that cannot access the technology included in the baseline, user cannot use the content even if content is made accessible.

Proposed Change:

New subsection "Attention to user agent capabilities" should be included to discuss this issue. Having a good UAAG and public awareness to UAAG is also important.
The conformance section of WCAG2 has been completely rewritten. The term "baseline" has been replaced by "accessibility-supported Web technologies". The issue of what it means to be an accessibility-supported Web technology is addressed in the section "Accessibility Support of Web Technologies" at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#accessibility-support .

Since user agent and assistive technology support varies widely in different regions of the world, we encourage knowledgeable organizations to become respositories of this knowledge and make it available to authors so that they can make well-grounded choices. We hope that this would also encourage user agent developers to improve the support provided by their user agents.
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LC-1315 Takayuki Watanabe, Makoto Ueki, and Masahiro Umegaki <nabe@lab.twcu.ac.jp> on behalf of JIS WG2 (archived comment)
Comment: WCAG 2.0 should put more emphasis on the importance of having a list of user agents that the content has been tested on. As pointed out in the comment #2, knowledge of which user agents can access that content is very important.

In Japan, our research [1] showed that Japanese major user agents were divided into two groups: JAWS and HPR can use structure markups and other important functions, while 95-Reader and PC-Talker can not. Most Japanese users do not know the benefits of skip navigation, heading navigation, table-structure navigation, or search text in a page because their user agents do not have these capabilities. (X)HTML is the basic technology which must be included in all baselines but major Japanese user agents cannot use some important accessibility functions of (X)HTML. Thus, we can say that baseline concept is too rough to show which technologies are accessible to users. Information of user agents is necessary to show that content is accessible to users.

In addition to that, user agents might be different among users with various disabilities. It may happen that the same content is accessible to users with cognitive disabilities but not accessible to visual disabilities.

We think conformance claims that include a list of user agents that have been tested on and a detail list of specific capabilities of those user agents is an ideal but we know it requires too much burden to the authors. Thus, we propose that WCAG 2.0 should put more emphasis on the importance of having a list of user agents that the content has been tested on.

[1] Watanabe, T. and Umegaki, M.
"Capability Survey of Japanese User Agents and Its Impact on Web Accessibility",
Proceedings of W4A 2006.
http://www.w4a.info/2006/prog/6-watanabe.pdf
The conformance section of WCAG2 has been completely rewritten. The term "baseline" has been replaced by "accessibility-supported Web technologies". The issue of what it means to be an accessibility-supported Web technology is addressed in the section "Accessibility Support of Web Technologies" at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#accessibility-support .

WCAG describes the requirements for a technology to be an accessiblity-supported Web technology. Although the author is responsible for choosing accessibility-supported technologies, we recognize that extensive knowledge of the capabilities of user agents and assistive technologies is needed to make this choice. Since user agent and assistive technology support varies widely in different regions of the world, we encourage knowledgeable organizations to become respositories of this knowledge and make it available to authors so that they can make well-grounded choices.
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LC-1316 Takayuki Watanabe, Makoto Ueki, and Masahiro Umegaki <nabe@lab.twcu.ac.jp> on behalf of JIS WG2 (archived comment)
Comment: We need more concrete and realistic examples of baseline. For example, the baseline used in public web sites in the US, the baseline used in W3C web sites.
The conformance section of WCAG2 has been completely rewritten. The term "baseline" has been replaced by "accessibility-supported Web technologies". The issue of what it means to be an accessibility-supported Web technology is addressed in the section "Accessibility Support of Web Technologies" at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#accessibility-support .

So the question becomes "What technologies are considered accessibility-supported for public web pages?", that is, web pages for which the author has no special knowledge about what user agents and assistive technologies are available to users.

To answer this, one would need need:
1. Accessibility support analyses for candidate technologies, documenting the user agent (browser and assistive technology) support for that technology.
2. Analysis of browser and assistive technology available to users.

Ideally, this information would be gathered in a publicly available location that could be consulted by anyone creating a public website. Until such a database is available, it may be necessary for authors to consult with knowledgeable sources for advice.
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LC-1317 Takayuki Watanabe, Makoto Ueki, and Masahiro Umegaki <nabe@lab.twcu.ac.jp> on behalf of JIS WG2 (archived comment)
Comment: Conformance claims should be expressed in RDF format so as to both human and tools can read them. Creative Commons License is a good example to have information both in normal text and marked with metadata.
Conformance to WCAG neither requires or prohibits the use of specific formats for describing conformance. The working group expects to provide informative information describing a variety of strategies for documenting conformance in cooperation with the education and outreach working group in the future. tocheck
LC-1318 Takayuki Watanabe, Makoto Ueki, and Masahiro Umegaki <nabe@lab.twcu.ac.jp> on behalf of JIS WG2 (archived comment)
Comment: We think it is a good idea for WCAG 2.0 explaining how aggregated contents conform to WCAG because of their popularity. Aggregated contents must be considered carefully because such kinds of content have been increasing on the web. This paragraph, however, is difficult to understand: This paragraph deals with aggregated content, Web unit, authored units, and aggregated (authored) units, which terms and their differences are difficult. It is difficult to understand what 'aggregated content' means. Thus, Good examples of aggregated content, Web unit, and authored units are needed.

In addition to that we can not understand the responsibility of Web authors and aggregated contents. We also can not understand how authors make a conformance claim to aggregated content.
We have completely rewritten the conformance section. We have removed the terms authored units and aggregated (authored) units.

We have made conformance claims less regulatory and more descriptive, that is, a conformance claim describes what is conformant to the guidelines. We think it is more appropriate for policy makers to determine appropriate exceptions.

We have provided a way to make a statement about parts of a page that do conform if the whole page doesn't.

We have clarified the situation by removing all exceptions and adding the following at the end of the conformance section:

Note: If pages can not conform (for example, conformance test pages or example pages) they would not be included in the conformance claim.

Statement of partial conformance (See http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#conformance-partial )

Sometimes, Web pages are created that will later have additional content added to them. For example, an email program, a blog, or an article that allows users to add comments to the bottom. Another example would be a company or individual who compiles a page from multiple sources. Sometimes, the content from the other sources is automatically inserted into the page over time.

In both of these cases, it is not possible to know at the time of original posting what the content of the pages will be. Two options are available:

1. A conformance claim is made based on best knowledge. If a page of this type is monitored and kept conformant (non-conforming content is immediately removed or made conforming) then a conformance claim can be made since, except for error periods, the page is conformant. No conformance claim should be made if it is not possible to monitor or correct non-conforming content.
2. A "statement of partial conformance" is made. A statement that the page does not conform, but could conform if certain parts were removed can be made. The form of that statement would be, "This page would conform to WCAG 2.0 at level X if the following parts from uncontrolled sources were removed."
1. This "statement of partial conformance" cannot be used for content that is under the author's control.
2. The "following parts" of the page that would need to be removed would be described in terms that users can understand. (e.g. they can't be described as "all parts that we do not have control of" unless they are clearly marked as such.)
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LC-1319 Takayuki Watanabe, Makoto Ueki, and Masahiro Umegaki <nabe@lab.twcu.ac.jp> on behalf of JIS WG2 (archived comment)
Comment: What is the difference between "authored unit" and "authored component"? We couldn't understand their meaning clearly. The words used in WCAG 2.0 are ambiguous. We need much more concrete examples of the current web technologies. It allows the readers to understand the WCAG 2.0 more clearly.
We have have reformulated the success criteria and glossary to remove both "authored unit" and "authored component" from the guidelines. tocheck
LC-1323 Takayuki Watanabe, Makoto Ueki, and Masahiro Umegaki <nabe@lab.twcu.ac.jp> on behalf of JIS WG2 (archived comment)
Comment: WCAG 2.0 doesn't require validity. Can authors use UA-specific elements such as marquee, blink and so on? It is less certain on this issue through the documents.
Not all deprecated elements and attributes present a problem for assistive technologies. The blink element is covered by F47: Failure of SC 2.2.2 due to using the blink element. For marquee, authors would need to meet the requirements defined in SC 2.2.3.

The working group looked at this topic carefully over an extended period of time and concluded that requiring strict adherence to all aspects of specifications does not necessarily result in an increase in accessibility. For example, it is possible to create invalid pages that present no accessibility barriers. It is also possible in certain situations to enhance accessibility through the use of markup that is not part of the specification.

The working group must work within its charter and only include things that directly affected accessibility. Some aspects of "use technologies according to specification" and validity do relate to accessibility. However, others do not. So requiring validity would take us beyond our charter. We do recommend it though and it is our #1 technique listed for conforming to SC 4.1.1.
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LC-1325 Takayuki Watanabe, Makoto Ueki, and Masahiro Umegaki <nabe@lab.twcu.ac.jp> on behalf of JIS WG2 (archived comment)
Comment: WCAG 2.0 doesn't mention about the speed of text which is moving on the page. It is hard for people with visual disabilities and cognitive limitations to read and understand the text. Can the author use the fast scrolling text?
Text that is being scrolled automatically would be covered by SC 2.2.3 and F16:

2.2.3 Content can be paused by the user unless the timing or movement is part of an activity where timing or movement is essential.
F16: Failure of SC 2.2.3 due to including scrolling content where there is not a mechanism to pause and restart the content

If an author uses scrolling text, there must be a way to pause the text to give the person time to read and understand it.
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LC-835 Terry Thompson <tft@u.washington.edu> on behalf of University of Washington (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: general comment
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

As a person who provides accessibility training to web designers, I\'m afraid that many of the folks I work with, all of whom are strapped for time and want quick-and-dirty recommendations (just tell me what to do!), would not have the patience to deal with the daunting girth of WCAG 2.0. This has grown enormously since I saw it last, and as I\'m trying to wade now through the complete WCAG 2.0 package, including supporting documents, I\'m frankly overwhelmed by the amount of information that\'s presented here. I think this has more to do with presentation than with content, and could be remedied with very few changes to the actual content that\'s being presented.

Here\'s an example: I\'m coding in HTML and I want to find the WCAG 2.0 - recommended technique for marking up alt text on decorative images. Here are the steps required for me to find what I\'m looking for:

1. Open the WCAG 2.0 normative doc.
2. 4 principles - I select the most relevant.
3. 4 guidelines - I select the most relevant.
4. Four Level 1 success criteria - I read them all and find a relevant success criterion, but still don\'t have a specific solution.
5. I follow the \"How to meet 1.1.1\" link, expecting to find techniques
6. Instead of techniques, the first thing I find is a repeat of the Level 1 success criteria. Didn\'t I alredy read this?
7. Not one to give up easily, I read on, past a dozen or so definitions of key terms, a lengthy \"Intent of this success criteria\" section, then finally arrive at a section headed \"Techniques for Addressing Success Criterion 1.1\".
8. Now I have an introductory paragraph, a paragraph of instructions, and five situations that take a while to read through. My particular situation is Situation E, but after reading it I still don\'t have a technique that I can apply. (I\'m also distracted in this section by the word USING always appearing in caps - is this done to enhance readability? For me it has the opposite effect).
9. At last I arrive at \"Technology-Specific Techniques\", which is where I find the answer I was looking for. As a sighted user with no known cognitive disabilities and past experience with both WCAG 1.0 and 2.0, the entire exercise took about 20 minutes.

I suspect that at this late stage in WCAG 2.0\'s development cycle, all of that verbiage between Step 1 and Step 9 is important, and is not going away. However, it was *not* important for my purposes.

So, the problem: How can all of this information be made available, but be optional to users? I think a more useful WCAG 2.0 would be one that is simple and straightforward, with all information only a click or two away.


Proposed Change:

I can think of two ways to address this problem.

1. Provide more links to the various components of the \"How to\" sections in the Understanding document. Instead of showing me the success criteria (again), and the key terms, and the scenarios, and the techniques, link to each of these sections, so I can choose whether or not to see them.

Personally I would even prefer to have this information linked directly from the normative document, thus I could get to Techniques in only a single click rather than two. However, that may have a tendency to clutter up the normative document.

2. Develop a WCAG 2.0 Wizard. Present nothing but the four guidelines on the opening page. Each time I select something, I\'m presented with additional options. Without adding intelligence to this application, a wizard wouldn\'t reduce the number of steps, but it would greatly reduce the amount of noise and make the WCAG 2.0 experience less daunting.

The number of steps could be reduced by adding intelligence to the wizard. Perhaps a keyword search, supplemented with some additional options to help filter the results (e.g., search any of the following: All WCAG 2.0 documents, Success Critera only, HTML Techniques only, CSS Techniques only, etc.)
Thank you for your comment. We had a similar concern. We think we have addressed this issue with the Quick Reference. It provides all the guidelines and success criteria along with sufficient techniques to meet them. The full technique descriptions are thus just one click away. You can find it at www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/quickref/.

There are also plans in conjunction with Education and Outreach Working group to develop an application note providing the basics for making accessible content in HTML.
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LC-1328 Trevor Barton <Trevor.Barton@admin.ox.ac.uk> on behalf of Web Officer, Oxford University, UK (archived comment)
Item number: Whole document

Comment type: Editorial

Comment: The success criteria have rather lengthy titles because the
titles and the descriptions of them are one and the same thing. It would
be helpful for web development project meetings to have short-form names
for all the success criteria (and perhaps for the Guidelines as well - but
it is less relevant for the principles as there are only four of them).

Example 1: 'Make all functionality operable in a keyboard'

Example 2: 'For each time-out, one of the following is true: user can
deactivate it/ default can be changed by a factor of 10x/ a simple action
can extend the time-out at least 10x on a sliding scale and the user is
given a 20 second warning/ no alternative to the time-out is possible/ it
is an activity where timing is essential.'

Proposed Change:
We have included short handles in the draft to make the success criterion easier to reference. tocheck
LC-840 Ulrike Peter <upeter@ifib.de> (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: general comment
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

We are concerned about Principle 3 “Content and controls must be understandable�.

Restructuring
We appreciate the restructuring of WCAG2 into four general principles allowing more independence of technology. But we fear that in practice the focus will be exclusively on the success criteria. This risk should be countered.
We demand that the principles and the guidelines of WCAG2 are given more importance and value. The success criteria should be defined as one (of several) possibilities to secure the WCAG2. The limitations of the success criteria have to be pointed out. The focus should be laid on the assurance of the principles and guidelines.


Criticism on the success criteria of the third principle
In the more general formulations of the revised WCAG2, also those checkpoints of WCAG1 can be found which have already become law in many European countries. Comparing the concrete implementation recommendations of WCAG2 (the success criteria) with those of WCAG1 (the checkpoints), it shows for the area of understandability that the aspects relating to the contents have got lost: In WCAG1, the requirement 14.1 „Use the clearest and simplest language appropriate for a site\'s content“ has the highest priority. In WCAG2, the guideline 3.1 includes content aspects of readability and text understanding. In the success criteria for 3.1, however, these requirements are missing. The success criteria included in WCAG2 now represent only side aspects of understandability which can be technologically checked. The much more important aspects in the area of understandability can only be submitted to standardized tests on the basis of expertise and considering the specific target groups of the web offer. In Germany, this is established practice, and know-how is available. The certification procedure based on the BITV, the German adoption of WCAG1, as well as the BIENE Award procedure follow these requirements on the basis of German law demanding not only the implementation of the „conditions“ (corresponding to the checkpoints of WCAG1), but also the implementation of the „requirements“ (corresponding to the guidelines of WCAG1).

The certification procedure of DIN CERTCO has been developed by leading representatives of science, practice and associations of people with disabilities. Beside the product quality of the web offer, also the process quality of the content tendance is evaluated. The BIENE Award is a competition carried out since 4 years awarding prizes to the best accessible German-language web offers which thus become models for the discussion. Besides expert tests, the test procedure also includes tests with people with different disabilities.

Exclusion of people with learning difficulties and cognitive limitations
The definition of target groups in the WCAG2 explicitly refers to people with learning difficulties and cognitive limitations. On the level of principles and guidelines we find the requirements of this target group, but not on the level of success criteria. This is where the exclusion takes place. Though the success criterium 3.1.5 demands that additional contents is offered if the language level of the texts is above the secondary education level, this does not mean that the requirements of the target group with learning difficulties and cognitive limitations are met. Further, it remains unclear how it is made sure that the texts keep the required level.



Proposed Change:
Thank you for the reference to the DIN CERTCO certification process and to the BIENE Award.

The working group has had difficulty developing success criteria for Principle 3 that are testable, human-language independent and that apply to all web pages, and that address the needs of people with different cognitive, language, and learning disabilities.

We have added language to the Introduction to highlight the fact that WCAG 2 only addresses some of the needs of people with cognitive, learning, and language disabilities, and calls out the need for more research in this area. WAI is exploring ways in which to support and encourage work in this important area.

We have added some best practices for cognitive, learning, and language disabilities as advisory techniques. Since advisory techniques do not need to be testable or universal, we have been able to include techniques based on some of the BIENE requirements, as well as best practices suggested by researchers on cognitive, learning, and language disabilities. The new advisory techniques include:

*Using the clearest and simplest language appropriate for the content
*Avoiding centrally aligned text
*Avoiding text that is fully justified (to both left and right margins) in a way that causes poor spacing between words or characters
*Using left-justified text for languages that are written left to right
*Using appropriate justification for languages that are written right-to-left
*Limiting text column width
*Avoiding chunks of italic text
*Avoiding overuse of different styles on individual pages and in sites
*Making links visually distinct
*Using images, illustrations, video, audio, or symbols to clarify meaning
*Providing practical examples to clarify content
*Using a light pastel background rather than a white background behind black text
*Highlighting a link or control when the mouse hovers over it
*Avoiding the use of unique interface controls unnecessarily
*Using upper and lower case according to the spelling rules of the text language
*Avoiding unusual foreign words
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LC-509 Vincent Eldefors <tartareandesire@yahoo.com> on behalf of Editor, web programmer (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: GE
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):

I think you should make a VERY clear statement regarding the recommended use of CSS methods (DIVs and such) over tables when it comes to page layouts. There are many discussions over this matter....

Proposed Change:
While WCAG 2.0 does not forbid the use of layout tables, the working group does discourage their use. The working group does not provide techniques about how to use layout tables, but has added an advisory technique to SC 1.3.1 titled, "Using CSS rather than tables for page layout" to describe this issue in greater detail. tocheck
LC-716 Wayne Dick <wed@csulb.edu> on behalf of CSU Long Beach (archived comment)
Part of Item:
Comment Type: QU
Comment (including rationale for proposed change):

The section of the Principle 4 is most confusing. Throughout success criteria for 4.2 there references by link to earlier success critera the linking language is so terse that it is hard to follow.

Proposed Change:

Go through the entire section and add more descriptive language than in the earlier principles. This is 4 is trickier. In most of the document keeping things short is good, but in 4 the cross referencing makes it hard to interpret what is being said.
To make this easier to understand, we have moved the former success criteria for 4.2 into the conformance section.

Conformance requirement 4 addresses conditions that must be satisfied when multiple versions of content are provided. There may be multiple versions because the author wishes to provide a version that uses technologies that are not accessibility supported, or because versions are provided that are tailored for supporting people with particular disabilities. Conformance requirement 6 describes the conditions necessary to keep the alternate versions from interfering with the user's ability to access the conforming version of the content.
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