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Comment LC-716

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Commenter: Wayne Dick <wed@csulb.edu> on behalf of CSU Long Beach

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[Free text description]Document as a wholeIntroduction Related Documents Authoring tools The Role of User Agents The Four Principles of Accessibility Important New Terms Used in WCAG 2.0 Conformance Technology assumptions and the "baseline" Conformance levels and the baseline Conformance claims Content that conforms to WCAG 1.0 How to refer to WCAG 2.0 from other documents Guideline 1.1 Success Criterion 1.1.1 Guideline 1.2 Success Criterion 1.2.1 Success Criterion 1.2.2 Success Criterion 1.2.3 Success Criterion 1.2.4 Success Criterion 1.2.5 Success Criterion 1.2.6 Success Criterion 1.2.7 Guideline 1.3 Success Criterion 1.3.1 Success Criterion 1.3.2 Success Criterion 1.3.3 Success Criterion 1.3.4 Success Criterion 1.3.5 Guideline 1.4 Success Criterion 1.4.1 Success Criterion 1.4.2 Success Criterion 1.4.3 Success Criterion 1.4.4 Guideline 2.1 Success Criterion 2.1.1 Success Criterion 2.1.2 Guideline 2.2 Success Criterion 2.2.1 Success Criterion 2.2.2 Success Criterion 2.2.3 Success Criterion 2.2.4 Success Criterion 2.2.5 Success Criterion 2.2.6 Guideline 2.3 Success Criterion 2.3.1 Success Criterion 2.3.2 Guideline 2.4 Success Criterion 2.4.1 Success Criterion 2.4.2 Success Criterion 2.4.3 Success Criterion 2.4.4 Success Criterion 2.4.5 Success Criterion 2.4.6 Success Criterion 2.4.7 Success Criterion 2.4.8 Guideline 2.5 Success Criterion 2.5.1 Success Criterion 2.5.2 Success Criterion 2.5.3 Success Criterion 2.5.4 Guideline 3.1 Success Criterion 3.1.1 Success Criterion 3.1.2 Success Criterion 3.1.3 Success Criterion 3.1.4 Success Criterion 3.1.5 Success Criterion 3.1.6 Guideline 3.2 Success Criterion 3.2.1 Success Criterion 3.2.2 Success Criterion 3.2.3 Success Criterion 3.2.4 Success Criterion 3.2.5 Guideline 4.1 Success Criterion 4.1.1 Success Criterion 4.1.2 Guideline 4.2 Success Criterion 4.2.1 Success Criterion 4.2.2 Success Criterion 4.2.3 Success Criterion 4.2.4 Appendix A: Glossary Appendix B: Checklist Appendix C: Acknowledgements Appendix D: Comparison of WCAG 1.0 checkpoints to WCAG 2.0 Appendix E: References
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open proposal pending resolved_yes resolved_no resolved_partial other assigned to Nobody Abma, Jake Abou-Zahra, Shadi Allan, Jim Auclair, Christopher Avila, Jonathan Babinszki, Tom Bailey, Bruce Bernard, Renaldo Bernier, Alex Blake, Matthew Boudreau, Denis Brewer, Judy Butler, Shari Campbell, Alastair Carlson, Laura Chakravarthula, Srinivasu Cirrincione, Pietro Conway, Vivienne Cooper, Michael Crutchfield, Elizabeth Deltour, Romain Dick, Wayne Ding, Chaohai Dirks, Kim Dixit, Shwetank Draffan, E.A. Duggin, Alistair Eggert, Eric Elledge, Michael Faulkner, Steve Ferraz, Reinaldo Fiers, Wilco Fischer, Detlev Foliot, John Garrish, Matt Garrison, Alistair Gower, Michael Guarino Reid, Loretta Hakkinen, Markku Haritos-Shea, Katie Henry, Shawn Hoffmann, Thomas Horton, Sarah Isager, Kasper Jensen, Tobias Christian Johansson, Stefan Johlic, Marc Johnson, Rick Jones, Crystal Joys Andersen, Wilhelm Kapoor, Shilpi Keim, Oliver Kirkpatrick, Andrew Kirkwood, John Kiss, Jason Kraft, Maureen Ku, JaEun Kurapati, Sujasree Lauke, Patrick Lauriat, Shawn Lee, Steve Lemon, Gez Li, Alex Li, Kepeng Li, Liangcheng Loiselle, Chris Lowney, Greg Lui, Edwina Lund, Adam Ma, Jia MacDonald, David Mace, Amanda Manser, Erich Martin, Debra McCormack, Scott McMeeking, Chris McSorley, Jan Milliken, Neil Montgomery, Rachael Mueller, Mary Jo nicole, windmann Niemann, Gundula Nurthen, James O Connor, Joshue Oh, Jeong-Hun Panchang, Sailesh Pandhi, Charu Pasi, Aparna Patch, Kimberly Philipp, Melanie Pluke, Mike Pouncey, Ian Repsher, Stephen Rochford, John Runyan, Marla Savva, Andreas Sawczyn, Steve Schnabel, Stefan Seeman-Kestenbaum, Lisa Sims, Glenda Singh, Avneesh Skotkjerra, Stein Erik Sloan, David Smith, Alan Smith, Jim Solomon, Adam Spellman, Jeanne F Strobbe, Christophe Suprock, Greg Swallow, David Thompson, Kenneth Thyme, Anne Ueki, Makoto Vaishnav, Jatin Vanderheiden, Gregg Venkata, Manoj Wahlbin, Kathleen Wang, Can WANG, WEI White, Jason Zelmanowicz, Erica Zerner, Adam Zhang, Mengni

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The section of the Principle 4 is most confusing. Throughout success criteria for 4.2 there references by link to earlier success critera the linking language is so terse that it is hard to follow.

Proposed Change:

Go through the entire section and add more descriptive language than in the earlier principles. This is 4 is trickier. In most of the document keeping things short is good, but in 4 the cross referencing makes it hard to interpret what is being said.

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WG Notes: [TEAMB] for 4.2 SC 7 Sept, LGR: Email commenter again asking for clarification. 5 Sept: Commenter was emailed on 16 August for clarification by Sorcha. No response has been received yet. The only reference to an earlier SC in SC 4.2 is in 4.2.2 "2. Content conforms to success criterion 2.3.1 (general and red f Response: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2007Jun/0055.htmllash)." All other references are to the glossary (which is why the link text is terse). There is a link to "Guideline 4.2 (accessible-alternatives) Issues" at the bottom. 16 Aug: Sorcha to contact commenter for clarification. Discussed in the 07 September 2006 telecon: resolution: sent back to Team B to consider survey comments (http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/teamb09072006/results#xlc716) http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2006/09/07-wai-wcag-minutes.html Discussed in the 21 September 2006 telecon: Resolution: accept LC-716 as amended with "To minimize the risk of seizures due to photosensitivity, content does not violate the general flash threshold or the red flash threshold (see SC 2.3.1)." http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2006/09/21-wai-wcag-minutes.html {??} DONE Change 4.2.2, item 2: Flash Threshold: To minimize the risk of seizures due to photosensitivity, content does not violate the general flash threshold or the red flash threshold (see Success Criterion 2.3.1). Updated Intnernal WD 22 September. Response: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2007Jun/0055.html

Resolution: To make this easier to understand, we have moved the former success criteria for 4.2 into the conformance section. Conformance requirement 4 addresses conditions that must be satisfied when multiple versions of content are provided. There may be multiple versions because the author wishes to provide a version that uses technologies that are not accessibility supported, or because versions are provided that are tailored for supporting people with particular disabilities. Conformance requirement 6 describes the conditions necessary to keep the alternate versions from interfering with the user's ability to access the conforming version of the content.

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