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Comment LC-890

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Commenter: Shibu.T <shibuonline@cdactvm.in> on behalf of CDAC

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[Free text description]Document as a wholeIntroduction Related Documents Authoring tools The Role of User Agents The Four Principles of Accessibility Important New Terms Used in WCAG 2.0 Conformance Technology assumptions and the "baseline" Conformance levels and the baseline Conformance claims Content that conforms to WCAG 1.0 How to refer to WCAG 2.0 from other documents Guideline 1.1 Success Criterion 1.1.1 Guideline 1.2 Success Criterion 1.2.1 Success Criterion 1.2.2 Success Criterion 1.2.3 Success Criterion 1.2.4 Success Criterion 1.2.5 Success Criterion 1.2.6 Success Criterion 1.2.7 Guideline 1.3 Success Criterion 1.3.1 Success Criterion 1.3.2 Success Criterion 1.3.3 Success Criterion 1.3.4 Success Criterion 1.3.5 Guideline 1.4 Success Criterion 1.4.1 Success Criterion 1.4.2 Success Criterion 1.4.3 Success Criterion 1.4.4 Guideline 2.1 Success Criterion 2.1.1 Success Criterion 2.1.2 Guideline 2.2 Success Criterion 2.2.1 Success Criterion 2.2.2 Success Criterion 2.2.3 Success Criterion 2.2.4 Success Criterion 2.2.5 Success Criterion 2.2.6 Guideline 2.3 Success Criterion 2.3.1 Success Criterion 2.3.2 Guideline 2.4 Success Criterion 2.4.1 Success Criterion 2.4.2 Success Criterion 2.4.3 Success Criterion 2.4.4 Success Criterion 2.4.5 Success Criterion 2.4.6 Success Criterion 2.4.7 Success Criterion 2.4.8 Guideline 2.5 Success Criterion 2.5.1 Success Criterion 2.5.2 Success Criterion 2.5.3 Success Criterion 2.5.4 Guideline 3.1 Success Criterion 3.1.1 Success Criterion 3.1.2 Success Criterion 3.1.3 Success Criterion 3.1.4 Success Criterion 3.1.5 Success Criterion 3.1.6 Guideline 3.2 Success Criterion 3.2.1 Success Criterion 3.2.2 Success Criterion 3.2.3 Success Criterion 3.2.4 Success Criterion 3.2.5 Guideline 4.1 Success Criterion 4.1.1 Success Criterion 4.1.2 Guideline 4.2 Success Criterion 4.2.1 Success Criterion 4.2.2 Success Criterion 4.2.3 Success Criterion 4.2.4 Appendix A: Glossary Appendix B: Checklist Appendix C: Acknowledgements Appendix D: Comparison of WCAG 1.0 checkpoints to WCAG 2.0 Appendix E: References
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open proposal pending resolved_yes resolved_no resolved_partial other assigned to Nobody Abma, Jake Abou-Zahra, Shadi Allan, Jim Auclair, Christopher Avila, Jonathan Babinszki, Tom Bailey, Bruce Bernard, Renaldo Bernier, Alex Blake, Matthew Boudreau, Denis Brewer, Judy Butler, Shari Campbell, Alastair Carlson, Laura Chakravarthula, Srinivasu Cirrincione, Pietro Conway, Vivienne Cooper, Michael Crutchfield, Elizabeth Deltour, Romain Dick, Wayne Ding, Chaohai Dirks, Kim Dixit, Shwetank Draffan, E.A. Duggin, Alistair Eggert, Eric Elledge, Michael Faulkner, Steve Ferraz, Reinaldo Fiers, Wilco Fischer, Detlev Foliot, John Garrish, Matt Garrison, Alistair Gower, Michael Guarino Reid, Loretta Hakkinen, Markku Haritos-Shea, Katie Henry, Shawn Hoffmann, Thomas Horton, Sarah Isager, Kasper Jensen, Tobias Christian Johansson, Stefan Johlic, Marc Johnson, Rick Jones, Crystal Joys Andersen, Wilhelm Kapoor, Shilpi Keim, Oliver Kirkpatrick, Andrew Kirkwood, John Kiss, Jason Kraft, Maureen Ku, JaEun Kurapati, Sujasree Lauke, Patrick Lauriat, Shawn Lee, Steve Lemon, Gez Li, Alex Li, Kepeng Li, Liangcheng Loiselle, Chris Lowney, Greg Lui, Edwina Lund, Adam Ma, Jia MacDonald, David Mace, Amanda Manser, Erich Martin, Debra McCormack, Scott McMeeking, Chris McSorley, Jan Milliken, Neil Montgomery, Rachael Mueller, Mary Jo nicole, windmann Niemann, Gundula Nurthen, James O Connor, Joshue Oh, Jeong-Hun Panchang, Sailesh Pandhi, Charu Pasi, Aparna Patch, Kimberly Philipp, Melanie Pluke, Mike Pouncey, Ian Repsher, Stephen Rochford, John Runyan, Marla Savva, Andreas Sawczyn, Steve Schnabel, Stefan Seeman-Kestenbaum, Lisa Sims, Glenda Singh, Avneesh Skotkjerra, Stein Erik Sloan, David Smith, Alan Smith, Jim Solomon, Adam Spellman, Jeanne F Strobbe, Christophe Suprock, Greg Swallow, David Thompson, Kenneth Thyme, Anne Ueki, Makoto Vaishnav, Jatin Vanderheiden, Gregg Venkata, Manoj Wahlbin, Kathleen Wang, Can WANG, WEI White, Jason Zelmanowicz, Erica Zerner, Adam Zhang, Mengni

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WCAG 2.0, addresses almost all the open issues against the previous working draft. WCAG 2.0 working draft Guidelines and success criteria are more robust and testable. We\'ve reviewed the draft and have the following suggestions:


Proposed Change:

*The issues of multiple disabled persons should be specified in the Draft.
*All the imperative sentences should be changed to declarative sentences for the easiness of reference.
*Check for the proper usage of the words, ‘Criteria’ (plural) and ‘Criterion’(singular).

*Splitting of words should be avoided for the proper understanding of the users who are using assistive technologies like screen readers and we would like to add this issue to WCAG 2.0.

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WG Notes: [EDITORZ] Discussed in the 20 July 2006 telecon: Resolution: refered back to address part 4 of commenter's proposal. http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-wai-wcag-minutes.html BBC: Updated to include response to 4th part of comment. Discussed in the 17 August 2006 telecon: resolution: unanimous consent to accept the following proposals from the Editorz: LC-847, LC-849, LC-850, LC-1006, LC-987, LC-936, LC-890, LC-852 resolution: unanimous consent to accept the following proposals from Team C: LC-1047, LC-1082, LC-1089, LC-1116, LC-1117, LC-1196, LC-1326 resolution: unanimous consent to accept the following proposals from Team B: LC-1127 http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2006/08/17-wai-wcag-minutes.htm DONE make sure criteria and criterion are used properly throughout (added to list of grammar checks in style guide) Response: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2007Jun/0005.html

Resolution: Regarding multiple disabilities: We aren't specifying disabilities in the guidelines themselves. In the support documents we refer to people by characteristics they may have. Thus a single person may be referred to in different places for having different disabilities. Also, disability pairs like deaf-blindness that have particular significance we try to mention where they are specifically addressed. If you see additional places where we missed a disability-pair, please let us know. Regarding imperatives: The guidelines (which are general directives) are all imperatives. However all of the success criteria are declaratives. We are keeping the guidelines as imperatives so that they are not confused with the success criteria and so that people do not try to assess them as testable when they are meant to be directive. Regarding Criteria/Criterion: Thank you. We hope to have caught them all and fixed them. I'm sure we have them all in the guidelines themselves now. If you see any in any of the support documents, just drop us a note any time. Regarding splitting of words: The working group believes this issue is covered by success criterion 1.3.3, "When the sequence of the content affects its meaning, that sequence can be programmatically determined." Specifically, F32: Failure of SC 1.3.3 due to using white space characters to control spacing within a word (http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-TECHS/Overview.html#F32) illustrates situations where the use of blank characters to visually format individual words will make it difficult for users of assistive technology to understand the content.

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