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Comment LC-1245: Comment Shortname:; Commenter: Henny Swan <henny.swan@rnib.org.uk> on behalf of Royal National Institute of the Blind; Message-id:; Section of the document concerned:

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Comment: The ext is verbose and confusing: "...If the test(s) for a "sufficient" technique or combination of techniques is passed, then the Working Group would consider that success criterion met. However, passing all tests for all techniques is not necessary. Nor is it necessary to meet a success criterion using one of the sufficient techniques. There may be other techniques which are not documented by the working group that would also meet the success criterion."

I had to re-read this a few times to understand it. In addition to this the reference to "the Working Group consider" also makes the explanation a bit more wordy.

Proposed Change:

It may read better if cut down and simplified to: "If the test(s) for a "sufficient" technique or combination of techniques is passed, then that success criterion has been met. Passing all tests for all techniques is not necessary. Alternatively a success criterion could be met using a technique that is not referenced in this document."; Related issues: (space separated ids); WG Notes: [TEAMA] Discussed in the 08 February 2007 telecon: resolution: accept 1245 as ammended http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2007/02/08-wai-wcag-minutes.html {Accept} Internal WD updated 22 March 2007. BBC: Note that the instructions on this resolution was a bit unclear. Based on the fact that this was accepted after the rewrite of the conformance section was accepted, I added the last sentence regarding techniques being written by knowledgeable sources.; Resolution: We want to keep the emphasis on the last idea though so we have adapted your wording in the discussion of success criteria at http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#overview-sc as follows: For each success criterion, there is a list of techniques deemed by the Working Group to be sufficient to meet the requirement. For each sufficient technique, there is a test to determine whether the technique has been successfully implemented. If the test(s) for a "sufficient" technique (or combination of techniques) are passed, then that success criterion has been satisfied. Passing all tests for all sufficient techniques is not necessary. Most success criteria have multiple "sufficient techniques" listed. Any of the listed "sufficient techniques" can be used to meet the success criterion. Note that it is not necessary to meet a success criterion using one of the sufficient techniques that have been documented by the WCAG working group. There may be other techniques which are not documented by the working group that would also meet the success criterion. The working group went through the effort to document these "sufficient techniques" in order to make it easy for authors to identify techniques that meet each success criterion and to have confidence (and evidence) that the techniques meet the success criterion. When using other externally-provided techniques to meet WCAG 2.0 requirements, it is important that they be created by individuals or organizations who are knowledgeable about the requirements of WCAG 2.0 and the needs of people with disabilities. The working group will continue to add new "sufficient techniques" as they are identified, developed, or made effective by advances in user agents including assistive technologies.; (Please make sure the resolution is adapted for public consumption)