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W3C TAG meeting 4-6 January 2012 in Cambridge, MA, USA
Back row: Jeni Tennison, Dan Appelquist, Ashok Malhotra, Yves Lafon, Jonathan Rees
Front row: Noah Mendelsohn, Peter Linss, Larry Masinter, Tim Berners-Lee
Agenda Summary
Logistics
- Venue
- MIT, Stata Center, 8th Floor Reading Room
32 Vassar Street
Cambidge, MA 02139
See logistics
for further details.
Preparation
See "(required reading)" annotations in agenda items below.
Agenda Details
- Convene, review agenda
- Scribes: TAG members are encouraged to sign up for scribing by using CVS to edit scribing assignments table, or by emailing the chair
- Roll call
- Approve minutes of teleconferences:
- F2F Main Goals:
- Commit to 2012 deliverables
- Make plan for (re)resolving issue httpRange-14
- Better focus work on copyrights and linking
- Decide whether and how the TAG will be involved in work on:
- Web protocols and SPDY
- Future versions of HTML
- Privacy
- Make progress on persistent references
- Update product pages to reflect F2F decisions
- TAG Priorities for 2012
- Goals:
- Identify key success criteria for TAG's work in 2012
- Update index to TAG product pages to
produce a clearer plan for the content, form, and expected date of TAG deliverables to achieve those goals.
- ISSUE-57 (HttpRedirections-57), ISSUE-63 (metadataArchitecture-63) and ISSUE-14 (HttpRange-14) : URI Definition Discovery; Metadata Architecture
- Goals:
- Background:
- Discussion on 22 December 2011
- Jonathan Rees has proposd a new plan for re-resolving httpRange-14 (required reading) and asks for TAG consideration of his proposal.
- Draft product page: URI Definition Discovery
- ACTION-624: on - Jonathan Rees - Draft for TAG consideration a call for httpRange-14 change proposals - Due: 2011-12-31 - PENDING REVIEW
- ACTION-625: on - Noah Mendelsohn - Schedule followup discussion of http://www.w3.org/wiki/HttpRange14Options (per agreement in Santa Clara) - Due: 2011-12-21 - PENDING REVIEW
- ACTION-589: on - Noah Mendelsohn - Work with Jonathan to update URI definition discovery product page Due: 2011-08-18 - Due: 2011-12-20 - OPEN
- Earlier background:
-
ISSUE-66 (mimeAndWeb-66-27): MIME and the Web
- Goals:
- Background:
- Product page: MIME architecture for the Web (24 Dec 2011 version) Commitments:
- Publication of a document satisfying stated success critera, most likely in the form of a finding
- Slides for discussion at January 2012 F2F from Larry Masinter (announcement e-mail)
- Larry Masinter announces a roadmap (required reading) and (after some
reformatting and splitting) the following components
of a draft publication (all are required reading):
- ACTION-531: on - Larry Masinter - Draft document on architectural good practice relating to registries - Due: 2011-12-26 - OPEN
- ACTION-595: on - Larry Masinter - Create a report on Mime and the Web - Due: 2011-12-29 - OPEN
- ACTION-636: on - Larry Masinter - Update product page for Mime and the Web - Due: 2011-12-08 - OPEN
- Note 8 Dec. 2011 discussion of whether scope should be broadened to extensibility hooks in general. The following was adopted:
- Earlier background
- Larry Masinter announces availability of
a draft document: this was later split
into the versions listed above as required reading.
- Drafts have been published at: http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/products/mimeweb.html
- See proposal at the top of the product page suggesting new goals for this effort.
- Blog posting from Larry that kicked off this work.
- ACTION-472: on - Larry Masinter - Update the mime-draft based on comments & review - Due: 2011-07-30 - OPEN
- ACTION-588: on - Noah Mendelsohn - Work with Larry to update mime-web product page Due 2011-08-18 - Due: 2011-09-15 - OPEN
- Closed actions:
- ACTION-425: on - Larry Masinter - Draft updated MIME finding(s), with help from DanA, based on www-tag discussion - Due: 2010-05-31 - CLOSED
- ACTION-458: on - Noah Mendelsohn - Schedule discussion of followup actions for TAG to coordinate with IETF on MIME-type related activities - Due: 2011-09-01 - CLOSED
- ACTION-467: on - Larry Masinter - Revise Mime & Web blog entry, perhaps leading to Internet Draft - Due: 2010-09-21 - CLOSED
- ISSUE-50 (URNsAndRegistries-50): Persistent references
- HTML.next
- Philippe le Hegaret will join us for this session.
- Goals:
- Define scope of TAG work on HTML.next
- Background:
- Teleconference discussion on 15 December 2011 (required reading)
- Karl DuBost and Paul Cotton suggest the following resources relating to HTML.next (required reading):
- ACTION-600: on - Dan Appelquist - Report to TAG on goals, scope and progress to date for HTML.next work - Due: 2011-10-25 - OPEN
- ACTION-641: on - Noah Mendelsohn - Try and find list of review issues relating to HTML5 from earlier discussions - Due: 2012-01-17 - OPEN
- ACTION-637: on - Noah Mendelsohn - Ask PLH to join us in Dec. to bring us up to speed on HTML.next, and also join in F2F discussion - Due: 2011-12-20 - CLOSED
- HTTP Futures and SPDY
- This session scheduled for Friday
morning so that Mark Nottingham can join us
- Goals:
- Decide next steps for TAG work on Web Protocols (HTTP) and SPDY
- Decide whether this become a major ("prodcut") focuse area for the TAG,
and if so, decide who should do the work
- Background:
- ISSUE-67 (HTML-XML-Divergence-67): HTML / XML Unification
- Norm Walsh will join us Thursday afternoon for a working session at Tim's house
- Goals:
- Background:
-
ISSUE-25 (deepLinking-25): Can publication of hyperlinks cause copyright infringment?
-
ACTION-545: Privacy
- Goals:
- Decide if and how the TAG will engage in privacy-related work during 2012 (Note: this is a continuation of the discussion started on 15 Sept 2011 at the Edinburgh F2F (minutes)
- Re-assign ACTION-566 to someone other than Dan Appelquist (or close it)
- Background:
- Ashok Malotra requests discussion of privacy at January 2012 F2F
- Some thoughts on Privacy from Ashok Malhotra (required reading — late addition to list)
- Note brief discussion of Privacy on 6 October 2011
- On 11 August 2011 we agreed to have "at most" 1/2 hour on this at the F2F, and much skepticism was expressed — in fact, we did have a combined session on security and privacy, but not much was done on the latter.
- ACTION-566: on - Dan Appelquist - Contact Alissa Cooper, organize a future joint discussion on privacy with IAB. - Due: 2011-10-18 - OPEN
- ACTION-583: on - Ashok Malhotra - (with help from Dan) organize TAG review of proposed W3C charter on tracking protection (privacy) Due 2011-07-26 - Due: 2011-08-30 - CLOSED
- E-mail from Ashok Malhotra (22 July 2011)
- ACTION-608: on - Noah Mendelsohn - Schedule telcon discussion of TAG goals on privacy - Due: 2011-10-04 - CLOSED
- Earlier background:
- Report of the W3C Workshop on Web Tracking and User Privacy (required reading)
- IETF/W3C Privacy workshop was held at MIT 8-98 December 2011. "Action Items" for W3C were proposed. See: Action items (PDF - may need rotating) collected at IETF/W3C Privacy Workshop wrapup
- ACTION-264: on - Ashok Malhotra - Draft agenda item for upcoming telcon discussion of geolocation and privacy - Due: 2009-08-04 - CLOSED
- ACTION-290: on - Noah Mendelsohn - Write to Geolocation WG saying "we have concern that the spec does not say enough user privacy" - Due: 2009-07-30 - CLOSED
- ACTION-408: on - Daniel Appelquist - Look into next steps on a workshop around device APIs, privacy etc. with tlr - Due: 2010-03-31 - CLOSED
- ACTION-460: on - Daniel Appelquist - Coordinate with IAB regarding next steps on privacy policy - Due: 2011-07-21 - CLOSED
- ACTION-550: on - Daniel Appelquist - With help from Noah to plan TAG work on privacy, leading to session at F2F, next step is contact with TLR - Due: 2011-05-12 - CLOSED
- ACTION-507: on - Daniel Appelquist - With Noah to suggest next steps for TAG on privacy - Due: 2011-05-03 - CLOSED
- ACTION-545: on - Ashok Malhotra - Report to TAG, after privacy workshop, regarding architecture issue on privacy and especially degree to which use cases beyond those addressed by "Do Not Track" need attention - Due: 2011-05-03 - CLOSED
- ACTION-506: on - Noah Mendelsohn - Noah to bring proposed W3C Actions on Privacy before the TAG - TLR to report back to IETF - Due: 2011-01-11 - CLOSED
- Papers from earlier IETF/W3C workshop on privacy were at http://www.iab.org/about/workshops/privacy/Privacy_Workshop_Papers.zip but that link appears not to work any more (ACTION-490: on - Noah Mendelsohn - Noah and others(?) going to privacy workshop to report back to the TAG? - Due: 2010-12-21 - CLOSED) (ACTION-506: on - Noah Mendelsohn - Noah to bring proposed W3C Actions on Privacy before the TAG - TLR to report back to IETF - Due: 2011-01-11 - CLOSED)
- Administration:
- Future TAG F2F meetings
- Sophia Antipolis 2-4 April 2012 (Mon-Wed...this is the
week after IETF in Paris)
- Plan a June and/or Sept meeting?
- Group photo
- Action item review:
Under consideration
The following items are at risk of not being
included in the final agenda due to lack of sufficient material to discuss
and/or due to lack of time on the agenda.
- TAG work on W3C architecture pages:
- Jeni, and perhaps others, have promised drafts for discussion
- This session will be scheduled if drafts are available in time
- CORS and Web Security
- Technology analysis for Jeff Jaffe:
- ACTION-568: on - Noah Mendelsohn - Draft note for Jeff Jaffe listing 5 top TAG priorities as trackable items. - Due: 2012-01-03 - OPEN
- In private conversation with the chair, Yves Lafon has agreed to take the lead in preparing a draft note for consideration by the TAG
- API Minimization
- On Dec. 1, Dan Appelquist asked for a likely slot on minimization, but what we'd discuss was at the time unclear. If nothing else, we'll have to
consider the effect of Dan's departure on this work.
- As of 1 Dec. 2011 we were unclear as to whether there would be substantial progress to discuss relating to storage. The chair is inclined to schedule
a session if there's time.
- ACTION-523: on - Ashok Malhotra - (with help from Noah) build good product page for client storage finding, identifying top questions to be answered on client side storage - Due: 2011-12-20 - OPEN
- Possible review/triage of old open issues
- Our issues list seems to be good institutional memory for why we did things, but a poor guide to daily work. Maybe we should skim them looking for things we should work on. Is it worth the time to close each one individuatlly? Note:
from our charter:
The TAG will also resolve issues involving general Web architecture brought to the TAG.
Should we only keep issues open in the case where something has been
explicitly brought to the TAG for resolution?
- Fragment identifiers:
- Per discussion on 1 Dec 2011, Fragids: will not be ready for January F2F (HT and PL) — will get to it in January from minutes of 1 Dec: Tentative conclusion, don't discuss this at F2F, unless Henry or Peter proposes a particular issue
-
ISSUE-60 (webApplicationState-60): Web Applications: Client-side Storage
- Goals:
- Decide whether we're serious about moving on ACTION-475: on - Ashok Malhotra - Write finding on client-side storage, DanA to review - Due: 2011-05-24 - OPEN
- Discuss Slides from Ashok to be presented at this F2F
- Get organized for further work in this area. What are specific goals in terms of questions to be answered for the community, dates and deliverables? TAG "Product page" needed?
- Currently tracking under ISSUE-60, which is the same one we're using for more transient client-side state. Is ISSUE-60 appropriate for both?
- Background:
- Required reading: Slides from Ashok to be presented at this F2F (announcement email)
- From discussion of storage at Feb 2011 F2F:
NM: Assuming this is a separate
document, what are the top three questions it will answer for the
community?
AM: Give me three weeks
NM: OK, let's suspend judgement on
the long-term future of this work until we see your response
- Ashok' slides from Feb 2011 F2F "Client-Side Storage" (ppt, pdf)
- Required reading: Client-side Storage : this version was prepared for the October 2010 F2F
- ACTION-475: on - Ashok Malhotra - Write finding on client-side storage, DanA to review - Due: 2011-05-24 - OPEN
- ACTION-482: on - Ashok Malhotra - Write a draft on client-side storage with help from DanA Due: 2010-11-30 - Due: 2010-10-27 - CLOSED — it was noted that this action was redundant with ACTION-475
Noah Mendelsohn for the TAG
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