ISSUE-14: What is the range of the HTTP dereference function?

httpRange-14

What is the range of the HTTP dereference function?

State:
CLOSED
Product:
Raised by:
Tim Berners-Lee
Opened on:
2002-03-25
Description:
TBL's argument that HTTP URIs (without "#") should be understood as referring to documents, not cars.

[httpRange-14] Resolved
From: Roy T. Fielding <fielding@gbiv.com>
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 21:25:42 -0700
Message-Id: <3fc8037bc096da8c801ebc8c1295e09b@gbiv.com>
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2005Jun/0039.html
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Related notes:

re-opened 30 May in order to write up earlier decision
http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2007/05/30-minutes#item04

24 Aug 2007, 00:00:00

Roy's announcement of the resolution: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2005Jun/0039.html

Jonathan Rees, 22 Mar 2010, 15:38:33

Here is the entry in the old (pre-tracker) issues list. Has links to useful documents, action history, etc.
http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html?type=1#httpRange-14

Jonathan Rees, 15 Feb 2011, 21:41:03

On scouring the archives, here's the earliest TAG discussion of the issue I could find:
http://www.w3.org/2002/03/18-tagmem-irc.html
and Tim's followup email
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2002Mar/0092.html

Jonathan Rees, 21 Feb 2011, 15:10:37

Not sure why this was showing closed. Clearly we're working on this, and the last change log entry in 2007 shows it being reopened. So, I'm marking it OPEN.

Noah Mendelsohn, 4 May 2012, 14:11:50

Note that, as of 2011 or so, most of the active work relating to this is being tracked under ISSUE-57, which is somewhat broader than ISSUE-14. ISSUE-14 should be closed when/if we come to a stable answer on the range of the HTTP dereference function in particular.

Noah Mendelsohn, 4 May 2012, 15:07:33

Re-CLOSING, at least for now, due to concerns raised by TAG members regarding lack of explicit decision to re-open.

Noah Mendelsohn, 8 May 2012, 14:22:34

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