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W3C TAG meeting 18-20 March 2013 in Cambridge, MA, USA

Back row: Yves Lafon, Tim Berners-Lee, Jeni Tennison, Noah Mendelsohn;
Front row: Yehuda Katz, Anne van Kesteren, Alex Russell, Marcos Caceres, Peter Linss

Agenda Summary

Logistics

Required Reading

• For now, look for the highlighted (required reading) markers as the agenda items below, and see email from Noah on required reading (6th paragraph).

Agenda Details

1. Convene, review agenda
   • Scribes: TAG members are encouraged to sign up for scribing by using CVS to edit scribing assignments table, or by emailing the chair
   • Roll call
     • Regrets: Alex Russell, Henry Thompson, (Tim Berners-Lee will attend only the first two days)
     • We expect Henry Thompson and former TAG member Jonathan Rees to join us Tuesday afternoon
   • Approve minutes of teleconferences:
     • 28 February 2013
   • F2F Main Goals:
     • Begin to establish agreement on TAG goals and success criteria for 2013 & 2014
     • Establish shared understanding and working relationships among new & incumbent TAG members
     • Identify two or three significant new initiatives. (There's no need for long term commitment yet, but we should try to pick areas that look promising.)
     • Revisit established TAG positions that are proving controversial (e.g. polyglot and authoritative metadata)
     • Agree to publish fragment identifiers as Candidate Recommendation
     • Decide future directions for existing projects: especially Publishing and Linking and httpRange14
2. Layering:
   • Goal:
     • Consider proposals from Alex Russell and Yehuda Katz for TAG work on layering in Web architecture (Yehuda will present)
     • If work is to be initiated:
       • Capture goal and success criteria in initial "product page"
       • Determine next steps with due dates
       • Assign TAG members to coordinate the effort and edit draft findings/recommendations, etc.
   • Background:
     • Layers of Confusion: http://infrequently.org/2012/11/layers-of-confusion/ (required reading)
     • Other reading:
       • Alex's campaign post: http://infrequently.org/2012/12/reforming-the-w3c-tag/
       • Bedrock: http://infrequently.org/2012/04/bedrock/
       • For Dave and David: http://infrequently.org/2012/04/one-for-dave-and-david/
       • Yehuda Katz's campaign statement for the TAG Election: I'm running to reform the W3C's TAG
     • Standards and discussion:
       • HTML5 App Cache
       • Discussion about App Cache Limitations
       • Introduction to Web Components
     • ACTION-784: on - Alex Russell - with help from Yehuda to frame F2F discussion of layering - Due: 2013-03-04 - OPEN
     • During 7 March 2013 discussion of F2F agenda, Yehuda and Alex propose TAG consider work on layering.
3. Fragment identifier semantics:
   • Product page: TAG Product: Fragment Identifiers and Mime Types
   • TAG members assigned (as listed in product page): Jeni Tennison, Larry Masinter (offered to help on 3 May 2012),
   • Goals:
     • Decide whether the TAG should continue on course to Rec with the fragids document
     • if so, work out what the CR exit criteria should be
   • Background:
     • Email from Jeni Tennison on context of Fragids work (required reading)
     • Email from Jeni Tennison suggesting structure and direction for this F2F session (required reading)
     • TAG Recommendation on Fragment IDS:
       • Best Practices for Fragment Identifiers and Media Type Definitions W3C Editor's Draft 12 March 2013 (required reading) — See also Last Call Working Draft
       • Product Page (required reading)
     • RFC 3023bis and Fragment ID Semantics
       • ACTION-689: on - Henry Thompson - work with Noah to draft a further request to the 3023bis editor from the TAG to include advice regarding what a particular +xml media type registration should do wrt fragid semantics along the lines in the discussion on media types and fragment identifiers at the f2f on 2012-04-04 - Due: 2012-10-01 - CLOSED
       • RFC 3023bis regarding fragment ID semantics for +xml media types
4. ISSUE-24: Authoritative metadata
   • Goal:
     • Decide whether the TAG wishes to reopen discussion of the conclusions reached in its 2006 finding Authoritative Metadata
   • Background:
     • TAG Findings
       • Authoritative Metadata (12 April 2006) (required reading)
       • The Self-Describing Web (7 February 2009) (required reading)
       • The use of Metadata in URIs (2 January 2007) (required reading)
     • TAG ISSUES:
       • ISSUE-24 Can a specification include rules for overriding HTTPcontent type parameters? (OPEN)
       • ISSUE-38: Relation of HTTP PUT to GET, and whether client headers to server are authoritative (CLOSED)
       • ISSUE-21: Do all "shoulds" of RFC 3023 section 7.1apply?
       • ISSUE-20: What should specifications say about error handling?
     • Long thread starting with e-mail from Robin Berjon in which he writes: I would support the TAG revisiting the topic of Authoritative Metadata, but with a view on pointing out that it is an architectural antipattern. (required reading)
     • ACTION-668: on - Noah Mendelsohn - Eventually, probably after registries work is done, ask whether TAG wants to reinvest in MIME/Web Due 2013-01-31 - Due: 2013-03-20 - OPEN
     • Anne van Kesteren has offered to summarize both sides of the controversy.
5. Coordination with ECMA TC39:
   • Goal:
     • Consider opportunities for improving coordination between the TAG and ECMA TC39, the standards group responsible for ECMAScript (JavaScript)
   • Background:
     • ACTION-788: on - Yehuda Katz - Frame F2F discussion of liaison with ECMA TC39 - Due: 2013-03-07 - OPEN
     • ACTION-786: on - Marcos Caceres - frame, with help from Alex, discussion of Javascript API Design Issues for F2F - Due: 2013-03-04 - OPEN (Marcos and the chair agreed that ACTION-786 would not be prepared for this F2F, but it's listed here because it's pertinent)
6. Outreach to developer community:
   • Goal:
     • Explore ways in which the TAG might work more closely with, learn more from, and be of more benefit to the developer community.
   • Background:
     • ACTION-785: on - Noah Mendelsohn - schedule discussion of developer involvement/outreach at F2F - Due: 2013-03-04 - PENDING REVIEW
     • Regarding co-location of TAG meetings with developer events, the chair notes that we have struggled to do this in the past, typically because:
       • Nobody will pay for meeting rooms, etc. at the sites, many of which are expensive or booked in the days before and after meetings
       • Many events run full week, and TAG members are reluctant to stay through or work through the weekends
       • Some TAG members (often including the chair) can't get funding to attend the developer event itself
7. Publishing and linking on the Web:
   • TAG members assigned: Larry Masinter (outgoing), Ashok Malhotra
   • Goals:
     • Review comments on Last Call Working Draft Publishing and Linking on the Web: W3C Working Draft — 25 October 2012
     • Decide whether and how the TAG should pursue this work in the future
     • Update product page to reflect current plans, goals and success criteria
   • Background:
     • Last Call Working Draft Publishing and Linking on the Web: W3C Working Draft — 25 October 2012 (required reading)
     • ACTION-776: on - Ashok Malhotra - With help from Larry to redraft Publishing and Linking, responding to comments, for review at F2F - Due: 2013-01-10 - OPEN
     • ACTION-779: on - Noah Mendelsohn - schedule F2F discussion of whether and how to pursue Publishing and Linking - Due: 2013-03-01 - PENDING REVIEW
     • ACTION-667: on - Noah Mendelsohn - Check, when publishing and linking wraps, whether it's time to reinvest in http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2011/12/evolution/Registries.html - Due: 2012-07-15 - OPEN
     • E-mail from Larry Masinter (required reading) discussing future directions for Publishing and Linking, and relating it to issues relating to governance (see blog post on governance from Larry)
     • E-mail from Ashok Malhotra (required reading)
     • Earlier actions:
       • ACTION-732: on - Larry Masinter - prepare FPWD on Publishing and Linking - Due: 2012-09-05 - CLOSED
       • ACTION-737: on - Yves Lafon - On Tuesday 4 Sept, if no objections, publish FPWD on Publishing and Linking - Due: 2012-09-06 - CLOSED
8. Meeting with W3C CEO Jeff Jaffe:
   • Goal:
     • Introduce Jeff to new TAG members and discuss new TAG priorities and deliverables
     • W3C Update from Jeff
     • Alert Jeff to technical issues of concern
   • Background:
     • ACTION-568: on - Noah Mendelsohn - Draft note for Jeff Jaffe listing 5 top TAG priorities as trackable items. - Due: 2012-01-03 - CLOSED
9. Identification of data in local storage:
   • Goal:
     • Follow up on Monday morning discussion of identification of data in local storage
   • Background:
     • During the discussion Tuesday morning, the chair was asked to schedule this discussion.
10. Polyglot and DOM support of XML
    • Goals:
      • Clarify path to a decision on what approach, if any, the TAG wishes to advocate (stated differently: decide whether and why we might reconsider the path the TAG has advocated to date).
    • Background:
      • 14 February 2013 TAG teleconference discussion Polyglot and DOM support of XML (required reading)
      • Request from Alex Russell for discussion of polyglot). From his email: I'd like to understand what our collective options are for making a decision; also come to at least a timeframe for whatever decision we need to make.
      • 24 January 2012 discussion of DOM support for XML (part 1, part 2)
    • E-mail from Larry Masinter summarizing reasons he believes that specifying polyglot is both appropriate and important (late addition to the reading list)
    • ACTION-782: on - Noah Mendelsohn - schedule F2F discussion of polyglot, the TAG's request to HTML WG on polygot, and HTML/XML Unification - Due: 2013-03-01 - PENDING REVIEW
11. URIs in data primer draft updated & httpRange-14:
    • Product page: Discovering Documentation for Individual URIs
    • TAG members assigned (as listed in product page): Jeni Tennison, Henry Thompson
    • Goals:
      • Agree to publish the URIs in data primer as a FPWD (possibly with modification)
      • Identify & assign other follow-on action (eg creation of Community Group)
    • Background:
      • URIs in Data Primer W3C Editor's Draft 07 March 2013 (including background)(required reading)
      • ACTION-781: on - Jeni Tennison - prepare reading and discussion on Defining URIS (ISSUE-57) for March F2F - Due: 2013-03-05 - OPEN
12. Action item review:
    • Pending review actions in Tracker
    • Overdue actions in Tracker
    • Open actions in Tracker
13. Administration:
    • Future TAG F2F meetings
      • Top Priority: establish place/dates for late spring meeting which all members can attend
      • Start thinking about location/dates for autumn
      • Brief discussion of summer plans
    • Scribing and CVS
    • Everyone up to speed on actions, issues and tracker?
    • Anything else?
    • Group photo: we'll likely do this at lunch either Mon. or Tues.
14. Open issue review:
    • This is an optional agenda item: we'll do it if there's time
    • Goal: review our list of open issues — look especially for issues that are open but dormant decide to assign resource/close/leave as background activity.
15. Outplan:
    • The following are potentially worth discussing, but are not formally scheduled on the agenda:
      • Some items may be listed here eventually