EOWG Meetings 2021

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Draft minutes are available at the end of the teleconference at the URI: http://www.w3.org/YYYY/MM/DD-eo-minutes where YYYY is the year, MM is the month, and DD the date. <-- you have to change that in the linked URI :)

17 December 2021 Teleconference

Minutes - 17 December 2021 EOWG Meeting

Agenda:

  1. How People With Disabilities Use the Web - (30-60 minutes)
  2. WAI Curricula - Designer Modules - (5-10 minutes)
    • Status Update
  3. Additions, if time permits
  4. Work for this Week - (5 minutes)

People who missed the meeting and have read or skimmed minutes:

  • Name, date

10 December 2021 Teleconference

Minutes - 10 December 2021 EOWG Meeting

Agenda:

  1. How People with Disabilities Use the Web - (30-45 minutes)
    • Discuss the new User Story "Blair"
    • Open floor for questions and/or comments to help you complete the thorough review survey - important to do a careful review
    • Editors may have additional topics based on comments participants put in the survey or GitHub this week
  2. Work for this Week - (5 minutes)

People who missed the meeting and have read or skimmed minutes:

  • Name, date

03 December 2021 Teleconference

Agenda

03 December 2021

  1. List of Courses - Discuss open issues - (30 minutes)
  2. How People with Disabilities Use the Web: Stories of Web Users - (10 minutes)
    • Monkey Review Survey [link coming] - Closes 14 December
    • Question/Comments about stories or survey?
  3. Work for this Week - (5 minutes)

03 December EOWG Meeting Minutes

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  • Name, date

19 November 2021 Teleconference

Agenda

19 November 2021

  1. WAI Curricula - Designer Modules - (10 minutes)
  2. WCAG support materials redesign - (20+- minutes)
  3. List of courses - Dragonfly Review results and changes (20 minutes)
  4. Work for this Week - (5 minutes)

19 November EOWG Meeting Minutes

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  • Name, date

05 November 2021 Teleconference

Agenda

  1. Special Announcement - EOWG is happy to welcome Kris Anne Kinney as a third Co-Chair for the Working Group!
  2. WAI Curricula Designer Modules
    • Teaching Designers and Developers together -- Designer Modules overview page, Introduction, last paragraph was added to explain rationale for previous structure.Do we need to keep this with the new structure?
    • Clarifying scope for Visual Design Orientation Cues -- learning outcomes for topic, last bullet.
      "use text cues to supplement information provided through vision only, for example available dates in a calendar marked with a background color" changed to
      "define methods to help users perceive and understand orientation cues, for example using text, color, and icons to convey the status of tasks in a project"
    • Is target size flexible? -- Where else could we discuss them if we think this topic is not the appropriate place?
    • Relationship between keyboard input and other input methods
      Interaction Design, Keyboard Interactions added learning outcomes first bullet: "explain how keyboard support favors other ways of interaction, including touch and voice".
  3. Work for this Week

Summary

The group warmly welcomed Kris Anne Kinney as new co-chair. She joins Brent and Sharron to help meet the new project management requirements for EO chairs that have arisen with Shadi's departure. Next Daniel walked the group through his proposed changes to the Designer curriculum modules with the following results:

  • The suggested phrase "These modules have been organized to facilitate teaching designers and developers together. If you are teaching in other environments, feel free to change the structure so that it fits your audience needs." was considered awkward and redundant. It will not be included. Rather, the emphasis on how to use the modules will be made in the general introduction and revisited when we have more actual user feedback from instructors.
  • The phrase "..."use text cues to supplement information provided through vision only, for example available dates in a calendar marked with a background color" was accepted with a suggestion to reflect this guidance in the teaching Ideas section.
  • The phrase "explain how keyboard support favors other ways of interaction, including touch and voice." was accepted with the stipulation to change "favors" to "benefits." Daniel will make that change and reflect it as well in supporting sections.

Brent wrapped the meeting, calling attention to the open survey and a number of upcoming conferences were referenced. Details in the full minutes.

05 November EOWG Meeting Minutes

People who missed the meeting and have read or skimmed minutes:

  • Name, date

29 October 2021 Teleconference

Minutes - 29 October 2021 EOWG Meeting

Agenda:

  1. WAI Curricula Designer Modules (~30+ minutes)
    • Proposal: Topic Form Elements
      • Accessibility versus usability -- How well does this cover specific accessibility issues without crossing the line between accessibility and overall usability?
      • Standard versus non-standard -- How well does this communicate the accessibility implications between standard and non-standard form elements?
  2. Replacing 'colorblind' -- summary e-mail
  3. The WCAG 2 Documents -- draft revision (old version) (~15+ minutes)
  4. List of Courses resource - Submission Form draft for review (10 minutes)
  5. Work for this Week (5 minutes)

People who missed the meeting and have read or skimmed minutes:

  • Sharron, 05 November
  • Name, date

22 October 2021 Teleconference

Minutes - 22 October 2021 EOWG Meeting

Agenda:

  1. Curricula Designer Modules - (45 minutes)
    • Module 7: Forms Design
      • Anything missing? Anything that should not be there?
      • Further suggestions on topic name for "Error Prevention".
        Proposals: "Error Handling", "Error Managing", "Errors" ... Others?.
    • Notifications Coverage -- Notifications apply to forms but also to other widgets and applications. Proposal is to:
    • Clarifying confusing example
      • Visual Design, Orientation Cues -- Learning outcomes last bullet said: "use text cues to supplement information provided through vision only, for example available dates in a calendar marked with a background color". Little to do with orientation but with use of color.
      • Proposal: change to "use text cues to supplement information provided through vision only, for example using text and icons to convey when a form field is required"
  2. Update on the term Color Blind - (10 minutes)
  3. Work for this Week - (5 minutes)

People who missed the meeting and have read or skimmed minutes:

  • Sharron, 05 November 2021
  • Andrew, 10 December 2021
  • Name, date

8 October 2021 Teleconference

Minutes - 8 October 2021 EOWG Meeting

  1. Curricula - Designer Modules - discuss the following issues - (45 minutes)
  2. Accessibility of Remote Meetings - (20 minutes)
  3. Work for this Week & Weekly Survey - (5 minutes)

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  • Name, date

1 October 2021 Teleconference

Minutes - 1 October 2021 EOWG Meeting

  1. New Editor Introduction - Steve Lee - (5 minutes)
  2. Authoring Tools List - (15 minutes)
  3. List of Courses - (30 minutes)
  4. Audio & Video Media - Description Page - (20 minutes)
  5. Work for this Week - (5 minutes)

People who missed the meeting and have read or skimmed minutes:

  • Name, date

24 September 2021 Teleconference

Minutes - 24 September 2021 EOWG Meeting

  1. New template for WCAG - Techniques, Understanding, ACT-Rules, Supplemental Guidance (30+ minutes)
    • Reminder of goals and scope in redesign requirements analysis
    • Schedule to get EOWG review and publish in less than 1 month
    • Discuss latest prototypes: [not updated before the meeting ; see minutes for links] — any comments now? (better than later!)
  2. Updated WCAG Overview pages (30+ minutes)
  3. Work for this Week (5 minutes)

People who missed the meeting and have read or skimmed minutes:

  • Name, date

? September

27 August 2021 Teleconference

Agenda

  1. WCAG-EM Report Tool
    • Comments have been addressed
    • Updates since EO approval
    • Chairs provided permission to fix bugs and back-end stuff with no further review needed by EO, with one exception, below:
      • PDF to be included as "technologies relied upon"
  2. Curricula: Designer Modules -
  3. Work for this Week & Weekly Survey

Summary

Hidde introduced two outstanding issues for resolution before publication of the newly redesigned tool. After discussion, these are the outcomes:

  1. PDF will be included as a default "relied upon" technology option
  2. The introductory banner with a link to the old version of the tool will remain but be revised to remove the yellow warning box and rewritten with clearer language.

Daniel then reviewed the structural and content changes made, which were significant. Rather than talk through all of them, Daniel will post a survey to be completed by 05 September. Michelle has several useful observations and Daniel invited her to join the next TF meeting. Estella pointed people to her current work on the Universal Design Project and encouraged using it in our own work. With a reminder to stay in touch with Work for This Week and thanks to all for their contributions, the meeting adjourned.

Minutes - 27 August 2021 EOWG Meeting

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  • Shawn, 30 August
  • Kevin, 31 August
  • Sylvie, 02 September

20 August 2021 Teleconference

No meeting this week

13 August 2021 Teleconference

No meeting this week

30 July 2021 Teleconference

Agenda

  1. WCAG-EM Report Tool - Approval to Publish update
  2. Curricula - Designer Modules
  3. List of Accessibility Courses draft ready for Eagle Review Survey
  4. EOWG Process - commenting and responding to surveys
    • Editor shoes
    • Review Stages and Levels (bottom line: big stuff early)
    • Comments
    • Surveys — need more time (inform editor and eo-plan ASAP), abstaining (future comments), completing (indicates engagement)
  5. Work for this Week
    • User Stories survey
    • Weekly survey for reading above and these minutes

Summary

The group worked through agenda items listed above. Approval to Publish the WCAG-EM report tool is affirmed. In service to efficiency and time management in the development of the Designer Module Curriculum, Daniel will incorporate the structural and language issues raised in the survey into the changes he is implementing based on other feedback. Next, recognizing that EO work has been recently quite dependent on reliable timely survey responses, we reviewed the stages of resource development. We walked a bit in the resource editor shoes and considered what kind of feedback is most useful at which stage. We agreed to make substantive comments early in the resource development process and to be clear and timely in suggested changes in content, approach, and structure. We wrapped up with a look at the Work for the week and set off with wishes for a happy Friday and enjoyable weekend - thanks all!

Minutes - 30 July 2021 EOWG Meeting

People who missed the meeting and have read or skimmed minutes:

  • Andrew, 6 Aug
  • Vicki, 9 Aug
  • Kevin, 24 Aug

23 July 2021 Teleconference

Agenda

  1. Template design for WCAG Techniques, Understanding WCAG, ACT Rules for WCAG, Supplemental Guidance to WCAG, ARIA APG
  2. Outreach - examples of tweet replies and other mentions
  3. Work for today and next week

Summary

Topics included:

  1. ACT Rules - survey is posted and group is asked to respond with two things in mind:
    • resource is not intended for general public but for auto tool makers and those who develop manual review methodologies.
    • survey will focus on the framework, navigation, and ease of understanding where you are and how to find what you are specifically seeking
  2. Outreach - part of the name of our group and the expectations of us from W3C. Please continue to make note of:
    • your own outreach and promotional efforts (blog posts, social media activity, etc)
    • accessibility related topics that others post, especially if you respond with a pointer to WAI resources (much appreciated)
    • any references to WAI materials in newsletters, blog posts, webinars done by others.
  3. Work for this Week - has been updated. Surveys are listed in priority order. Remember that you can save answers in surveys and return to complete at a later time. Also even if you are unable to complete the review, please register that fact using the option in the review level question in each survey - Thanks!

Minutes - 23 July 2021 EOWG Meeting

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9 July 2021 Teleconference

Agenda

  1. WAI Curricula — Curricula designer modules Starfish Review survey
  2. Videos — proposed shift from WCAG SCs to How People with Disabilities Use the Web sub-pages
  3. Work for this Week
    • Curricula survey ready now
    • WCAG-EM Report Tool butterfly/approval-to-publish survey coming end of next week
    • Outreach - record your activities and other things you see

Summary

Daniel explained how the comments from the last survey and meeting conversations had been addressed. He asked that the group take plenty of time and carefully review the Designer modules and comment in the survey linked in the agenda. This is the final review before we will be asked for permission to publish. There are two weeks allocated to completing the survey - remember that you can save your answers and return to the survey over that time. Shadi reviewed with the group the current plans for video production. Rather than include the short videos that were proposed to illustrate the SC of the Accessibility Guidelines, the focus has shifted specifically to videos that illustrate the AT use and concepts related to How People with Disabilities Use the Web. The group considered this shift and determined that it was a good decision and likely to be very effective in its purpose. Hidde reported that a approval to publish survey would post near the end of this week for the WCAG-EM Report Tool, please watch for it. A review of the Work for This Week and discussion of our outreach efforts wrapped up the meeting - thanks all!

Minutes - 9 July 2021 EOWG Meeting

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25 June 2021 Teleconference

Agenda

  1. WCAG-EM Report Tool - Discuss issues raised in survey and GitHub issues tagged EOWG agenda+
    1. updated overview page
    2. 'all results' on Report Findings page?
    3. other comments
  2. User Stories - Discuss open issues around draft User Stories, Personas prototype
  3. Meeting Scribe - Scribe Rotation and Scribing Instructions/Tips
  4. Work for this Week

Summary

Meeting began with brief introductions from all participants and welcome to our new colleague, Michele Williams who has an extensive background in usability at Pearson and elsewhere. The group then considered comments that had been submitted for the updates to the page design for the WCAG-EM Report Tool. Among the comments were preferences about Save, expand/collapse, and findability. Hidde is taking comments and will use them to guide next steps. Next was discussion of open issues around the User Stories draft that the group will consider. Reminder to the group that we will begin Scribe Rotation and provisions of instructions for how to manage that. The meeting wrapped up with pointers to current work and the sad but exciting news that Shadi is leaving W3C in September to take a position with a major tech company. Good luck Shadi, we will miss you!

View full 25 June meeting minutes .

People who missed the meeting and have read or skimmed minutes:

  • Billie Johnston, 25 June 2021

11 June, 2021 Teleconference

Agenda

  1. Introductions
  2. Curricula - Understanding and Involving Users module draft
    Discussion
    • Module fit -- How does this module fit in the curricula? does it fit in the designer modules?
    • Explaining different types of feedback -- Feedback from testing with users vs from involving users in the analysis, design, and development phases
      Is that difference clear throughout the module? How could we make that difference more explicit?
    • Including real people versus desk research (research without real people)
      Does current wording acknowledge that some organizations are not able to involve real people and will do mainly desk research?
  3. Scribe rotation for Friday Meetings
  4. Work for this Week

Summary

Discussion of the agenda items previously listed resulted in the following:

  1. The curriculum TF will reconsider the placement of the current content, including the idea of moving much of the information about involving users to the Foundations modules.
  2. Based on the outcome of that reconsideration, discussion of the additional curriculum questions were tabled.
  3. Scribe rotation method will be introduced at the next EOWG meeting.

Meeting Minutes 11 June 2021

07 May, 2021 Teleconference

Agenda

Videos Subgroup Meeting (in place of EOWG meeting)

  1. WCAG Video Project

30 April 2021 Teleconference

Agenda

  1. Style for EOWG Resources
  2. Style Guide update
    • Broadened "For persona names, include different ethnicities and genders." to include pictures, descriptions, ages, disabilities
    • diff, resulting bullets
  3. Work for this Week

Minutes 30 April 2021

16 April, 2021 Teleconference

Agenda

  1. WCAG-EM Report Tool:
  2. WCAG Videos Update
  3. Using GitHub videos - Any comments on these draft videos on using GitHub for WAI resources ?
  4. Work for this Week
  5. Work on reviews, surveys, and other Work for this Week - (remaining time :-)
  6. (optional) GitHub tips live

Summary

The group considered and discussed agenda items listed above. No votes or resolutions were taken.

View full 16 April meeting minutes .

People who missed the meeting and have read or skimmed minutes:

  • [done] name, 00 Month 2021
  • [done] Sylvie, 30 April 2021

09 April, 2021 Teleconference

Agenda

Videos Subgroup Meeting (in place of EOWG meeting)

  1. WCAG Videos

26 March, 2021 Teleconference

Agenda

  1. WAI Style Guide Update - (15+ minutes)
    • See proposed revised wording in Talk:Style.
      • The most significant change is the 2 sentences and 2 bullets starting with:
        "Note: Be aware that a plural pronoun for an individual..."
      • Diff in .doc
    • (optional example in case it's useful) Example of options being considered for Tal in Content Usable document.
  2. WCAG Video Project (Overview and what to review for) - (~60 minutes)
  3. [Tentative] - Curricula update on Designer modules - (5-10 minutes)
  4. Work for this Week - (5 minutes)

19 March, 2021 Teleconference

Agenda

Note meeting time is one hour different in Europe and other places

Meeting for those who are commenting on the COGA Content Usable document:

  1. COGA Content Usable
    • Background: EOWG comments and COGA replies (.doc) — COGA replies are in purple boxes starting with "March2021"; the number is a link to the GitHub issue, the next text is their topic (in italics); the next paragraph is their reply.
    • Discuss situation and approach to commenting (e.g., please do share perspectives, and think about level)
    • Any questions about the Survey on COGA Replies?
      (note: survey Introduction was updated Wednesday, and new questions coming Thursday)
  2. Work for today (Friday 19 March)

05 March, 2021 Teleconference

Agenda

WCAG Videos Meeting (Optional for other EOWG Participants)

full 05 March meeting minutes .

People who missed the meeting and have read or skimmed minutes:

  • [done] name, 00 Month 2021

26 February 2021 Teleconference

Agenda

  1. List of Accessibility Courses (~30 minutes)
  2. Correct Speech Recognition (instead of Voice Recognition) (~40 minutes)
    • Description in WAI Style Guide
    • Proposed edits to Speech Recognition Perspectives Video page: preview, diff
    • Any comments on proposed edits?
    • With the transcript, is a Note about the change.
      What are the Pros and Cons of putting something about it earlier on the page?
    • Leave URI "voice" OK, or importance to change?
  3. WAI Project Opportunities - call for volunteers (some EOWG projects and some not) (~20 minutes)
    • Any questions?
    • Any ideas of who might be qualified and interested?
  4. Work for this Week (5 minutes)
    • Note "Review minor changes" and "Optional — Provide input on open issues" under Work for this Week

Summary

EOWG worked through the items listed in the agenda above. There were no resolutions or action items. Calls for volunteers have been posted. View full 26 March meeting minutes .

People who missed the meeting and have read or skimmed minutes:

  • [done] name, 00 Month 2021

19 February 2021 - no teleconference

12 February 2021 - no teleconference

05 February 2021 Teleconference

Agenda

  1. Curricula title - consider the title used in different contexts - front-load title? comments in GitHub (~30 minutes)
  2. Work for this Week (~15 minutes)
    • How to review changes in GitHub

Minutes 05 February 2021

People who missed the meeting and have read or skimmed minutes:

  • [done] name, 00 Month 2021

15 January 2021 Teleconference

Agenda

  1. Media Resource (~30+ minutes)
  2. COGA Content Usable document, survey results, UT question (~30+ minutes)
    • Update on status of EOWG comments and coordination
    • Additional input needed on usability testing content
    • Sentences for referencing EOWG resources
  3. Videos for WCAG requirements (~30+ minutes)
  4. Work for this Week & Weekly Survey (5 minutes)

Minutes 15 Month 2021

People who missed the meeting and have read or skimmed minutes:

  • [done] name, 00 Month 2021

08 January 2021 Teleconference

Agenda

  1. Media Resource Revisions (~60 minutes)
  2. COGA Content Usable Survey (~30 minutes)
    • Discuss initial survey results
    • Any questions or clarifications to help understand the issues in order to provide more useful survey comments?
  3. Work for this Week (5 minutes)
    • COGA Survey due Monday 11 January
  4. (optional) Curricula

Minutes 08 Month 2021

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