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Upcoming Meetings

Each week:

  • [currently inactive] Find homework on Action Items page. Search for your name. Then search for highlighted words "Who else:" Complete items that are marked "Everyone". If time and interest, do things indicated "Anyone".
  • If you miss a meeting, read summary on this page and add your name as [done]
  • Update your Availability for Upcoming EOWG Teleconferences

1 August 2014 teleconference

  1. WCAG-EM Report Tool - Discuss:
    • Overall design and structure of the application.
    • The overall order and sequence of the steps. Is it clear where you are and what you can do at each step?
    • What should and should not collapse?
    • Are there any questions left unclear about the interface as you go through it?
    • (Let's not discuss bugs or feature requests — they can be put in the GitHub Issues List (preference) or the wiki page or e-mail.)
  2. Planning for Web Accessibility - Discuss approach and direction of "Introduction", "Establish Roles and Responsibilities", and "Develop an Organizational Policy" sections. (not word-smithing yet, though comments on the content and editorial tone of these sections is welcome) see 31 July e-mail
  3. Tutorials

Coming Soon

  • 8 August 2014 teleconference
  • 15 August 2014 teleconference
  • 22 August 2014 teleconference
  • 29 August 2014 teleconference
  • ...

Past Meetings

Prior to 28 March 2014, agendas and summaries are only included in the Minutes, which are listed in the EOWG Minutes Archive.

25 July 2014 teleconference

Agenda

  1. Planning and Managing Web Accessibility - review draft update
  2. Evaluation tools
  3. WAI WG docs for review - who will do?
  4. Tutorials - Schedule final review version of the tutorials

Summary

Kevin led the meeting off with a call for comment on his updates to the Planning and Managing Accessibility (P&M) project. EO participants are asked to review the overall structural approach on GitHub and to comment there or on the P&M pages of the EO wiki. Of most interest at this time are questions of structure and consistency of topic organization. Discussion ensued about the place of policy development in the sequence, the importance of organizational size in plan implementation, the emphasis on roles vs responsibilities and other questions. Shadi asked that everyone reserve time mid-week to take another look at how comments were processed and applied. The group then looked at the latest prototype of the Evaluation Tools database on GitHub. Shawn asked for a look especially at the filtering mechanism, has it been sufficiently clarified, how is it working? Annabelle had not seen it previously and when approaching the search with "beginner's mind" she felt overwhelmed, looked for qualitative information, and wished that there was a capability of filtering by platform/device. Shawn asked everyone to look at this during the week and send additional comments before the meeting. Next Shawn asked for volunteers to review the Developers' Guide to Features of Web Accessibility Evaluation Tools Draft and the updated techniques documents. Sharron, Wayne and Bim will review and invite Denis as well. They will send comments as individuals unless they encounter items for EO consideration. Finally, the WAI tutorials Cover Page, Images and Tables sections are ready for final review. Sharron to email group for final sign-off on publication.

Meeting Minutes 25 July 2014

Participants

  • Present: Shawn, Bim, Jan, EricE, AnnaBelle, Sharron, Kevin, Jon, Shadi, Helle, Wayne
  • Regrets: Vicki, Andrew (No survey results from Liam, Denis, Sylvie, Paul)

Read summary & skimmed minutes (people who missed the meeting):

  • [done] name, date

18 July 2014 teleconference

Agenda

  1. Tutorials
  2. Evaluation tools - review early rough Prototype of new database UI
    (Comments in Evaluation tools comments wiki page)
  3. Planning and Managing Web Accessibility feedback on new approach for Establish Responsibilities section
    (Comments can be added to that wiki page or sent in e-mail)

Summary

The meeting began with a consideration of how to reword EO's response to WCAG-WGs suggestion for the Images tutorial. WCAG-WG suggested that the reference to Image maps on mobile be omitted as not relevant to WCAG 2.0. EO felt that issue did, in fact, have accessibility impact and suggested rewording of the Note in Example 1 of Image Map page to reflect that. Next the group considered the reorganization of the Image Decision tree that was prompted by Howard's observations of the cognitive difficulty in understanding the original. The group agreed that clarity was greatly improved, made a few additional refinements and accepted the new design. The group then explored the UI for the Evaluation Tools Database on GitHub and provided first impressions and feedback. Next was consideration of the organizational structure for the planned update of the resources in support of Planning for Accessibility. Discussion included consideration of pagination, text heavy presentation, whether (and how) to use expand/collapse features and other organizational questions. Content was not discussed at this time. Shadi asked all to review and comment on the structure and the *amount* of content to the Implementation Feedback page of the EO wiki. Finally, Shawn reminded everyone that there is a great deal of review work coming up and asked that everyone stay alert to email and wiki notifications of documents that need consideration. Thanks to all.

Meeting Minutes 18 July 2014

Participants

  • Present: Kevin, Shawn, Bim, EricE, Sharron, Shadi, Jan, Wayne, Howard, Jon
  • Regrets: Helle, Vicki, Andrew (No survey results from AnnaBelle, Liam, Denis, Sylvie, Paul)

Read summary & skimmed minutes (people who missed the meeting):

  • [done] name, date

11 July 2014

No teleconference. Instead, please work on:

  1. Tutorials
  2. Evaluation tools - review early rough Prototype of new database UI and put comments in Evaluation tools comments wiki page

4 July 2014 teleconference

Agenda

  1. Tutorials
  2. Evaluation tools - review early rough Prototype of new database UI
  3. Accessibility Support Database - draft available for preview. If you want EOWG to discuss anything, let Sharron & Shawn know.
  4. Reminder: EOWG f2f Monday & Tuesday 27-28 October 2014 in California, with W3C TPAC - registration open
  5. Work for next week:

Meeting canceled due to lack of participants.

Participants

  • Present: Shadi, Kevin, Eric, Bim, Andrew, (Wayne)
  • Did not fill out survey: Anthony, Liam, Wayne
  • "Can" no shows: Denis, Sylvie, Sharron, Jan
  • "Maybe" and "not sure" no shows: Anna Belle, Howard
  • Regrets: Paul, Vicki, Helle, Shawn, Jonathan

27 June 2014 teleconference

Agenda

  1. WCAG Techniques for Specific Technologies - approve Location proposal
  2. WCAG-EM - (if needed) discuss any issues (WCAG-EM review e-mail)
  3. Tutorials
    • Discuss any additional comments on new material listed in 20 June agenda
    • Discuss revised cover page
      • Are we happy with what we convey on the cover page?
      • Is the tone right?
      • Should we mention both, HTML4 and HTML5?
      • Do we need the Accessibility Principles link on the top? (Concern is that it might be distracting for readers.)
      • Should we have Tips & FAQ even when no FAQ is present? (like in the tables tutorial)
      • Should we have FAQ at all? (Concern is that is may sound artificial, but may have a lot of benefits like being easy to scan…)
    • (if ready) Approve replies to WCAG comments (to be updated)
  4. Planning and Managing Web Accessibility - Discuss outline for overall information organization:
  5. Reminder: EOWG f2f Monday & Tuesday 27-28 October 2014 in California, with W3C TPAC - registration open

Summary

Shawn opened the meeting with a report of a series of meetings she and Michael Cooper held to determine placement of the agreed wording of the caution statement to be used for Accessibility Techniques for specific technologies. The group agreed with both the final wording and the placement. Wayne next reported on his review of the WCAG-EM document and gave kudos all around. He and Bim agreed that the resource was greatly improved in terms of clarity, organizational structure and general readability. Next the group considered the progress made on the WAI Web Tutorials. Finally, Kevin walked us through the plan for creating the new suite of documents for Planning and Implementing Web Accessibility. He shared the outline for the Implementation Plan and described the steps needed for completion, asking the group to weigh in on what they ultimately want the resources to look like. Once that is finalized, Kevin will develop milestones and timelines to get us there. After a brief overview, Kevin asked others to make comments on the Planning and Implementation feedback pages of the EO wiki. Shawn asked everyone to provide feedback on the ongoing projects, register for the Face to Face if possible, and adjourned the meeting.

27 June Meeting Minutes

Participants

  • Present: Shawn, Bim, Shadi, Sharron, Kevin, EricE, Helle, Andrew, Howard, Wayne
  • Regrets: Jan, AnnaBelle, Paul (No survey results from Anthony, Liam, Wayne)

Read summary & skimmed minutes (people who missed the meeting):

  • [done] Jonathan, July 07, 2014

20 June 2014 teleconference

Agenda

  1. WCAG-EM Report Tool
  2. WCAG-EM final review coming next week - who will review it?
  3. Tutorials
  4. Planning and Managing Web Accessibility
  5. EOWG comments on longdesc - confirm we're satisfied with the edits.
  6. Reminder: EOWG f2f Monday & Tuesday 27-28 October 2014 in California, with W3C TPAC - registration open

Summary

20 June Minutes

Wilco Fiers was introduced to EO participants. Wilco is leading the Auto-WCAG Community Group, formed to develop automated WCAG monitoring and testing. Shadi led the next discussion about the WCAG-EM Report Tool. Shadi asked participants to review the prototype of the tool on GitHub and comment, bearing in mind that the purpose of the tools is both to give new evaluators a good foundation to jump right in as well as to provide experienced evaluators with an integrated approach. Next was a reminder that final review comments are due for WCAG-EM, considerably revised with EO input and other public comments. If EO participants have more to say, do it now. Next up was a review of the response to EO comments on longdescription. There were no objections voiced and Bim was going to do a final review after the meeting ended. Shawn reminded all of the upcoming Face 2 Face Meeting at TPAC - registration is open, please respond as soon as you know whether you can attend. Shawn also asked for input early next week on the Personas within the Planning and Managing accessibility wiki. Finally, Eric updated the group on the progress of WAI Tutorials and asked for continued input.

Participants

  • Present: Shadi, Shawn, EricE, Jon, Wilco, Bim, LiamM, Kevin, Andrew, Wayne, Howard
  • Regrets: Jan, Paul, Sharron, AnnaBelle, Vicki, Helle (No survey results from Anthony, Liam)

Read summary & skimmed minutes (people who missed the meeting):

  • [done] Sharron, June 25, 2014
  • [done], Helle, June 27 2014

13 June 2014 teleconference

Agenda

Summary

Meeting was centrally focused on the recent work on the Table Tutorials and the comments received from WCAG-WG and others. Simple tables were redefined to be those that do not require scope. Examples were organized within that definition and rearranged. It was agreed to emphasize best practice as well as making clear what were WCAG requirements. There was extensive discussion about the information flow, how scope and headings are addressed, and how to promote a clear understanding among developers that as tables are made easier to understand for people with cognitive disabilities we also solve other problems. Helle, Jan, and Andrew will look for research and suggest possible wording for making that point. Next, Kevin announced that he has reviewed existing resources for planning and managing and is making notes for consideration and discussion. The idea is to review existing documents, some of which have not as yet been published and to identify what is missing to develop them further. Other documents are proposed to help organizations meet the requirements for accessible ICT. The goal will be to develop personas and then craft the resources to meet the needs of as many of them as possible. Existing personas have been consolidated into six basic personas who will benefit from these resources. EO is asked to review and comment. Shadi then introduced the features list for an Interactive Guide for Web Evaluations and asked for group input. Shawn thanked everyone and the meeting adjourned.

13 June Minutes

Participants

  • Present: Kevin, Sharron, Shawn, Bim, EricE, AnnaBelle, Jonathan, Jan, Paul, Andrew, Shadi, Helle, Sylvie Duchateau
  • Regrets: Wayne, Denis, Vicki, Howard (No survey results from Anthony, Liam)

Read summary & skimmed minutes (people who missed the meeting):

  • [done], Howard, June 19, 2014 (Reviewed minutes - will read summary when posted)
  • [done], name, date

6 June 2014 teleconference

Agenda

Summary

The meeting began with brief introductions of new EO participants Jonathan Metz and Kevin White. The rest of meeting was spent considering the WCAG-WG comments on the Tutorials. Eric brought to EO those comments that needed group considerations including the following:

  • Tables Tutorials organization: Noting that the overlap was not entirely clear between "simple" tables and those we have called "irregular" or "complex," WCAG-WG suggested reorganization. Discussion included consideration of how far a tutorial should go in explaining the difference between how code should render and the inadequacies of certain AT and/or browsers. Recognizing the need to separate best practice from requirements, it was agreed that Eric will draft a revision in which <th> is used alone only on the first example, will introduce <scope> in second example and will pull in Example 1 from "Irregular."
  • Image Maps: The question here was whether the Note that image maps do not always render properly on mobile and the attendant suggestion of redundant links was seen by WCAG-WG as unnecessary due to it being a more general problem rather than a specific accessibility barrier. After Bim's observation that a mandate for WAI-ACT was to address mobile technologies, EO decided to keep the reference with some modification and Eric will justify the decision based on discussion.
  • Table Summary: Comment was that HTML summary attribute should not be given such emphasis and HTML5 solutions could be given more. Eric will include more varied ways to provide table summary.
  • ARIA references The comment from WCAG-WG began with a note about groups of images which was then generalized to include a desire for more ARIA references throughout. EOWG agreed to better clarify that it is OK to use ARIA with HTML4 and that it will probably render OK with most browsers and AT but you may have code validation errors. We also expect that as the topics become more complex, we will use ARIA references in context and as appropriate.
  • Cognitive Load: Discussion tabled until next week when AndrewA will be at the meeting
  • FAQ for Images Tutorial: Considered Shadi's suggestion to have a Q to address the question of text-only sites. Agreed if it is worded so as *NOT* to inadvertently reinforce the myth that it is a good accessibility solution.

EOWG participants are advised to stay alert to Eric's edits this week and be available to respond quickly. Thanks all!

06 June Minutes

Participants

  • Present: Kevin, Sharron, Shawn, Bim, EricE, AnnaBelle, Jonathan, Jan, Paul, Howard, Sylvie Duchateau
  • Regrets: Wayne, Andrew, Shadi, Denis, Helle, Vicki. (No survey results from Anthony, Liam)

Read summary & skimmed minutes (people who missed the meeting):

  • [done] Wayne, 9 June 2014
  • [done], Helle, 13 June 2014
  • [done], Andrew, 13 June 2014
  • [done], name, date

30 May 2014 teleconference

Agenda

Summary

The Education and Outreach Working Group (EOWG) met with the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group (WCAG WG) to discuss and reach consensus on wording that EOWG previously submitted for Understanding WCAG.

Background: Techniques for Specific Technologies has notes on EOWG's original discussion, EOWG proposed wording, WCAG WG's edited wording, and EOWG's additional discussion.

Judy Brewer acted as neutral facilitator, allowing co-chairs to participate in the discussion without having to represent their full WGs. After much discussion, the following language was agreed upon, with the caveat that today's participants must seek approval from their full groups:

Publication of techniques for a specific technology does not imply that the technology can be used in all situations to create content that meets WCAG 2.0 success criteria and conformance criteria. Developers need to be aware of the limitations of specific technologies and provide content in a way that is accessible to people with disabilities.

[post meeting note: "conformance criteria" should be "conformance requirements"]

EO further suggested that the language be placed in numerous instances where specific technology techniques were offered. By the time this was suggested, however, several WCAG reps had left the meeting and after a brief exchange of perspectives on that question, it was determined that EO would submit the suggestion as a separate matter for WCAG consideration. Judy thanked everyone and she and remaining WCAG participants left the meeting.

EO participants remained to discuss the timeline and extended deadline for participants to complete the Tutorials surveys. Shawn asked that everyone be sure to do that and to provide as well edit suggestions for the main Tutorials landing page with marketing and messaging in mind. Suggestions are welcome on GitHub and/or on the wiki or by email to the list.

30 May minutes

Participants

  • Present: Bruce Bailey, Judy Brewer, AnnaBelle, David MacDonald, Shawn, Paul Schantz, Sharron, Andrew Kirkpatrick, Sylvie Duchateau, Joshue, Marc Johlic, Andrew Arch, Michael Cooper, Howard Kramer, Denis Boudreau, Liam M, Jan, Wayne
  • Regrets: Eric, Shadi, Bim, Helle, Vicki
  • Availability survey empty: Anthony

Read summary & skimmed minutes (people who missed the meeting):

  • [done] Vicki, June 3, 2014
  • [done] Helle, 13 June 2014
  • [done], name, date

23 May 2014 teleconference

Agenda

Summary

Shadi led the meeting and began by observing how few people had managed to complete the survey. He and Eric asked if participants would be able to meet an extended deadline for completing the acceptance questionnaires for the Tutorial work to date. Those in attendance agreed that they would meet the deadline which was extended to June 2 with strong encouragement to complete before that date. Looking at the comments that were made, the group discussed copyedits to the Concepts page of the Tables section, improvements to the Irregular Tables section, considered a suggestion to say sometimes tables are "impossible" rather than "hard" to understand, and more. Considering the overall Tutorials introduction, it was determined that greater emphasis is needed of the fact that for many content providers the CMS will become an important determining factor of success. Rather than try to make disclaimers throughout the tutorials, it was suggested to make a stronger case on the overall Tutorials introduction with supporting references in the individual topics as needed. Tables is an example where accessibility features made with an authoring tool may not be carried over in conversion to the web. In addition, there was support for encouraging Project Managers to think about the Tutorials as a way to provide leadership and resources to their teams. In closing, Eric asks for specific comments on the alt text of the table icons as people do their review. Shadi thanked Eric for his dedication and progress and gave kudos all around to how the group works together.

23 May minutes

Participants

  • Present:
  • Regrets:
  • Availability survey empty:

Read summary & skimmed minutes (people who missed the meeting):

  • [done] Shawn, 28 May 2014
  • [done], Helle 13 June 2014
  • [done], name, date

16 May 2014 Teleconference

Agenda

  1. Tutorials - discuss:
  2. IndieUI Requirements - discuss EOWG comment on use cases not scenarios
  3. Availability for Upcoming EOWG Teleconferences & discussion with WCAG WG on Techniques for Technologies wording & location on 30 May or 6 June

Summary

In review of the Tables Tutorials the group was generally pleased with how the icons have evolved. Suggestions were made for possible alternatives to positioning, link status, number of icons for each example, bulleted text and more. On the question of linked icons, it was agreed that there should be no linking to internal page content, but rather to the general background and overview of each table type. Eric quickly mocked up examples for all to see and it was agreed to make clickable icons, floated left, with only one example of each type, and no bullets.

Consideration was given to the question of the opening language being "too scary" for those who are not coders. Several said that, well, in fact it IS for coders and don't want to try to make the language so simple it is no longer useful to primary audience. All agreed that language could be clarified and somewhat simplified without being dumbed down. Goal is to be useful to primary users while being less intimidating to users of CMS who may not be coders. Discussion of series of large chain link images with "Permalink" designation in alt text led to conclusion that first the large images were distracting and second the term permalink may be confusing to many. Eric will work on alternative visual presentation and wording. The Tutorials cover page emphasis was to be copy edited with an emphasis on the goal of these materials to help make the web "more accessible to all users."

The group agreed to recommend to Indie-UI the use of the term "use case" throughout and that they NOT use scenario. Most availability for co-meeting with WCAG-WG was May 30. Shawn reminded everyone to stay alert to comments on the wiki and to complete the questionnaire.

16 May 2014 Minutes

Participants

  • Present: Sharron, Bim, AnnaBelle, Shawn, EricE, Paul, Wayne, Jan, Sylvie, Vicki
  • Regrets: Helle, Shadi, Howard, Andrew
  • Availability survey empty: Liam, Anthony

Read summary & skimmed minutes (people who missed the meeting):

  • [done] {Andrew, 2014.05.30}
  • [done] Helle 13 June 2014
  • [done], name, date

9 May 2014 Teleconference

Agenda

  1. Tables tutorial - discuss any open issues (which Eric will prepare for discussion)
  2. Coming soon: "WBS" questionnaires for approval to publish Tutorials cover page, Images Tutorial, Tables Tutorial - please schedule time for these
  3. IndieUI Requirements -
  4. Worksession - for those who want to refine the Tutorials cover page

Summary

The first discussion and majority of meeting time was devoted to the Tutorials - examining the open issues from the Tables Tutorial and wrapping up the Images Tutorial comments. There was some discussion of the Tables thumbnail icons, how detailed they should be, how they should be placed, and what alt text was appropriate. Eric thanked AnnaBelle for her excellent copy-edits to the Images Tutorials and felt confident that Images is in good shape for final review. Shawn told everyone to look for a questionnaire and to please make the time to complete it since the goal is to have these completed in may. With the expectation that there will be more comments, suggested changes to Tables Tutorials, Eric asked that those be the priority when completing the questionnaire. Next was a discussion of the Indie-UI Requirements draft and Wayne's comments. Some general comments from Wayne and Liam will be submitted by them as individuals and Sharron took the action to submit one comment from the group. That is the observation that terms "use case" and "scenario" seem to be used randomly. We propose that Indie-UI refer only to "use cases" since that is the more accurate term in this context. Finally, for those who are more productive in working group activities, some participants remained to discuss the Tutorials Cover Page and others left to work on their own.

9 May 2014 Minutes

Participants

  • Present: Shawn, Sharron, Wayne, Bim, EricE, Jan, Andrew, LiamM
  • Regrets: Shadi, Helle, AnnaBelle, Sylvie
  • Availability survey empty: Anthony, Howard, Paul

Read summary & skimmed minutes (people who missed the meeting):

  • [done] {Sylvie, 6 June, 2014}
  • [done] Helle 13 June 2014
  • [done], name, date

2 May 2014 Worksession

Optional worksession to review Tables tutorial. Put changes in GitHub or comments in Tables wiki page.

2 May 2014 worksession notes

25 April 2014 teleconference

Agenda

  1. Tables tutorial - discuss issues in Tables wiki page
  2. IndieUI Requirements - volunteers to review (and/or comment on "use cases" versus "scenarios"): Wayne, ?
  3. EO work focusing on Tutorials - plan your 2 hours for that most weeks

Summary

In looking at Eric's progress on the Tables tutorial, Shawn noted that only she and Vicki had made documented comments. Helle said she had looked at the Table Tutorial but had trouble navigating the GitHub interface. Shawn reminded everyone they could still use the wiki and/or email to comment. Eric suggested the group take a look now during the meeting and offer comments. One major concern is the question of how to promote best practice (for example with table captions) while making the distinction clear between what is required and what is recommended as a best practice. Discussion included the observation that loading the tutorials with disclaimers and W3C "normative" jargon could seriously undermine the pedagogy of these which are meant to be teaching documents. The group agreed that we want to avoid "noise:" and yet we must make the distinction clear. Several suggestions were offered and Eric will incorporate them for group consideration. Concern was offered as well about the use of terms like "ambiguous tables," Multi-level tables" etc and the group asked for greater clarity, suggesting perhaps the use of "irregular." Next was Shawn's request for volunteers to review the draft of "Indie-UI" with particular attention to the way they reference "use cases" and "scenarios." Jan, Helle and Wayne agreed to review. Helle asked that meeting dates be put back on the EO home page, it was agreed to do so. Sharron asked for an update on the WAI response to a request for anayltics. Shawn said Sharron and Liam should submit the questions that they want answered and she will see what we can do. Denis asked for a meeting to continue the Tables tutorial review in real time as a group and they settled on a time on May 2 for anyone wishing to join.

25 April 2014 Minutes

Participants

  • Present: Shawn, Sharron, EricE, Shadi, Helle, Jan, Denis, Bim, PaulSchantz, Wayne
  • Regrets: Sylvie, Andrew
  • Availability survey empty: Liam, Howard, Anthony

Read summary & skimmed minutes (people who missed the meeting):

  • [done] {Vicki, June 3, 2014}
  • [done] {name, date}

18 April 2014 - no teleconference

11 April 2014

Agenda

  1. ATAG promo debrief and ATAG status update
  2. Introduction for those interested in providing GitHub Tutorial feedback and a review of Tutorials feedback on the EO wiki
  3. Procurement Resources - discuss draft and what's needed before moving it to WAI-Engage wiki
  4. Review and discuss content of Finding Your WAI page. "New Resources" are not so new...and what else could be improved from an outreach perspective?
  5. Discuss Michael Ellidge's suggestion for Easy Checks on WAI-editors list
  6. Actions reminders
    • Each week, search for your name. Then search for highlighted words "Who else:" Complete items that are marked "Everyone". If time and interest, do things indicated "Anyone".
    • When you miss a meeting, read summary on this page and add your name as [done]

Summary

First on the agenda was to hear from Jeanne about the ATAG outreach at CSUN with the buttons and cards. Jeanne reported great success, more than 13 people volunteered to test and more applications are still coming in. She now has more than 20 testers. Implementation outreach was good as well, although they are slower to be finalized. Jeanne is hoping for implementers using Drupal and Wayne and Paul will help her find those within CSU system. Andrew will put Jeanne in touch with Drupal authors using modules for accessibility. Jeanne thanks ed everyone for their efforts and will consider what else to ask EO for, including the possibility of creating a WAI-Engage project to keep the momentum moving forward and to manage volunteer engagement. Next Eric reviewed the ways to comment on the Tutorials, first through GitHub Tutorial feedback and second through the Tutorials feedback page of the EO wiki. Links to the specific tutorials as well as GitHub links are maintained on that wiki page. Eric emphasized that no one needs to feel obligated to participate in GitHub, although Liam encouraged everyone to try, especially for editing typos and other trivial items. Wayne introduced the fact that GitHub was actually easier for him to navigate than the wiki. He requested that all EO participants try to do their EO homework within the wiki enlarged to 200%. Eric has sent Wayne a revised styles sheet and we will check in to see how that is working. Sylvie and Bim emphasized the fact that dates and clear sectioning help navigate the wiki with a screenreader.

Next the group considered the status of the Procurement Resources wiki page and its readiness to go to WAI-Engage. Sharron voiced a concern that we have not had success putting things on WAI-Engage in the past and would like EO to think about how to launch it with incentives for participation. Sharron and Wayne will talk with procurement people in universities and state agencies to see if we can get commitment to participate when the project moves to the public wiki. The next item was a consideration the Finding Your WAI page on the main WAI website. Highlighted items are dated and we need to think about the purpose of the page and how well it is succeeding. What does this page do that is not done on Getting Started, the site map, or What's New? EO participants are asked to comment on the YourWAI wiki page. In the meantime, Eric will ask Shawn and Shadi about including some open source analytic tools. Next the group considered the response to an EasyChecks solution posted to WAI editor's list and agreed to thank Michael for his input and add his suggestions to a list of future improvements. The meeting ended with a reminder that EO will not meet on April 18th.

Participants

  • Present: Sharron, Jeanne, Jan, Wayne, Eric, Bim, Sylvie, Paul, Andrew, Liam,
  • Regrets: Shawn, Shadi, AnnaBelle, Denis, Vicki, Helle
  • Availability survey empty: Howard, Anthony

Read summary & skimmed minutes (people who missed the meeting):

  • [done] Shawn, 15 April 2014
  • [done] Helle, 23 April 2014
  • [done] Vicki, 24 April 2014
  • [done] Anna Belle, 29 April 2014

04 April 2014

Agenda

  1. Resources for|on Alternative Text for Images - Draft page comments in wiki
  2. Easy Checks disclaimer - discuss comments and finalize
  3. Evaluation Tool Guidance - discuss new title idea
  4. Tutorials cover page - discuss comments in wiki and Github as needed
  5. Tutorial Concepts - debrief from F2F and discuss ideas
  6. (if time) Procurement Resources - plan for developing it more and moving it to WAI-Engage wiki
  7. Actions reminders
    • Every week, search for your name. Then search for "Who else:", which is highlighted and do all things indicated "Everyone". If time and interest, do things indicated "Anyone".
    • When you miss a meeting, read the Sharron's ever so helpful summary on this page and add your name as [done]

Summary

We tabled the first agenda item, the discussion of the HTML5 Images resource page, until Mark could join, later in the meeting. Next on the agenda was consideration of the Easy Checks disclaimer. Discussion resolved with approval of the shaded box for the text but a decision to place the disclaimer in just one location on the page, right before the Expand All option. Otherwise the feeling was that it creates to much visual noise and distraction if placed in front of each and every check. Next was a discussion of wiki Eval tool comments regarding the title of the Tool Developer Guide. EO felt that the title had been significantly improved to be "Developer (or Developer's or Developers')Guide to Features of Web Accessibility Evaluation Tools" and left the final grammatical decision to Shadi's WG to decide. Also approved the acronym "WAET Guide." Next up was a discussion of the Tutorials cover page and a recap of the Tutorials Concept work done at CSUN F2F. Eric appreciated the wiki input and asked for everyone to continue adding thoughts and comments. Discussion followed about the additions and final disposition of the Procurement Resources on the EO wiki. While the intent is to polish the page a bit more and add to the WAI-Engage wiki, questions arose about how to promote wider participation. Citing lack of response to past efforts to engage people through WAI-Engage, a need was expressed to develop a more active outreach effort if we try this again. Sharron and Wayne will reach out to people they know with procurement responsibility to try to get their commitment of active engagement before we post the resource to WAI-Engage. In the meantime EO participants are encouraged to continue to post resources.

Mark joined the call and thanked EO for the wiki comments. He debriefed the group on the background of the HTML5 Images guide and the group expressed their appreciation of the document. Suggestions were made including: consider expanding the topics that are covered by this type of resource; if so, provide an additional folder with a common root; consider if there is a relationship to yourWAI; if so consider page type more closely related to Tutorials or WAI. Mark said there was little chance that other topics could be included at this time since HTML5 is progressing rapidly but will take suggestions for future consideration.

The meeting closed with a discussion of the new EO wiki structure, specifically the consolidation of meeting agendas, minute summaries and action items. While this is generally acceptable and even preferable for most participants, some expressed a preference for having at least some brief info about meetings on the EO home page. Additional discussion of the wiki in general surfaced problems with way-finding - what is supposed be commented upon and where to comment? - as well as the fact that pages grow to unwieldy lengths and become hard to navigate. Wayne reminded the group that he was entirely unable to navigate or use the wiki and felt that he missed a great deal of interaction - comments and responses - by being unable to use the wiki platform. Sharron will take these matters up with Shawn and welcomes further input about how to manage participation.

Participants

  • Present: Sharron, Shadi, Wayne, Denis, Eric, Bim, Vicki, Sylvie, Howard, Jan, Andrew, Liam, Helle, Mark_Sadecki
  • Regrets: Shawn, AnnaBelle,
  • Availability survey empty: Suzette, Anthony, Emmanuelle, Howard

Read summary & skimmed minutes (people who missed the meeting):

  • [done] Shawn, 15 April 2014
  • [done] Anna Belle, 29 April 2014

28 March 2014

Agenda

  1. CSUN debrief
  2. Easy Checks - discuss March changes
  3. Alt guidance - OK for EOWG to be in critical path?
  4. Evaluation tool guidance - comments on Features of web accessibility evaluation tools: Guidance on the development and selection of tools
  5. Procurement Resources - discuss issues with seeding WAI-Engage wiki page
  6. Techniques for Specific Technologies - comment for April discussion
  7. Actions reminders - every week, search for your name, then search for "Who else:", which is highlighted.
  8. Availability for Upcoming EOWG Teleconferences - why not filling out?

Summary

The meeting began with a recap of CSUN highlights shared by those who had attended, including increased attention to procurement resources, great interest in Easy Checks, and a general feeling that the field was maturing. Because there was such low attendance at the F2F, the group must consider whether we want to plan to meet at CSUN again next year (so that space can be reserved) or pass and find other venues for face to face meetings. Next Shadi asked the group to consider the development of a new document for helping toolmakers include accessibility evaluation features. Shadi particularly asked for help with the framing of the document, especially the title, the abstract and the introduction. The group brainstormed titles that more clearly targeted the audience of tools makers. Discussion followed about seeding the WAI-Engage wiki with policy and procurement resources. Caution was expressed about being clear that this is not legal advice and to steer clear of contract language. Otherwise, the idea seems useful and will be pursued. In exploring why the availability survey was not being completed, we found several people locked out from their log-in. Once that is solved, Shawn urged everyone to keep the EO participant attendance survey up to date. Next the group looked at the newly organized EO wiki and associated actions - now structured by topic rather than by person. Members are encouraged to visit the wiki once or twice a week, search for your name associated with a topic and then search for "Who Else." If it says everyone, a response is required; if it says anyone, you are encouraged to comment - even to agree with previous comments or say you have no opinion. Going forward, the meeting agendas and summaries will also be found on the wiki for your convenience.

In Techniques for Specific Technologies, read Background and Notes. Comment under "Additional Discussion on Wording" and "Location". (+1 is enough of a comment)

Rough minutes 28-March-2014

Participants

  • Present: Shawn, Sharron, Jan, Andrew, PaulSchantz, Bim, Helle, Shadi, Howard (second part)
  • Regrets: AnnaBelle, Vicki, Howard, Eric, Liam, Sylvie, Wayne
  • Availability survey empty: Wayne, Denis

Read summary & skimmed minutes:

  • [done] Vicki, 24-April-2014
  • [done] Anna Belle, 29-April-2014