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Accessibility Education and Outreach Working Group (EOWG) Teleconference

23 July 2021

Attendees

Present
Brent, Carlos, Donna, Jade, Kris Anne, Laura, Leticia, Michele, Shadi, Sharron, Shawn, Wilco
Regrets
Billie, Daniel, Estella, Howard, Jen, Mark, Sylvie, Vicki
Chair
Brent
Scribe
Sharron

Meeting minutes

ACT Rules design

Shawn: Wilco and others have been putting the ACT rules into the new format. Today we want to look at the Act Rules which are about to publish, we want to look at it both from the perspective of approval to publish as well as looking at the format itself since it will be used as a proof of concept for the other WCAG supporting documents.
… Hidde has been working on this but was pulled away. Techniques have been addressed, Supplemental Guidance is in progress, the design for the docs are not yet finalized but we are excited to get this done. Today's conversation will provide context, will have a survey next week. Any questions?

Sharron: Does this mean that the ACT Rules publication will be a template for all of the supporting docs?

Shadi: Hidde started to work on the Supplemental Guidance and supporting docs to WCAG, Techniques, Understanding, etc. Hidde did research we looked at several of the doc types and Hidde worked with Wilco for the ACT rules and others have been working on other docs. Since ACT Rules is the most advanced toward publication we are taking what we learned doing this one to later on apply to the others.

<brentb> Requirements: https://github.com/w3c/wai-wcag-supporting-documents-redesign/wiki/Requirements-Analysis

Shadi: Please look at these with the idea that tehy will apply to the others but the actual focus is the ACT Rules.

Shawn: When we moved those to the new website we understood that we needed to do a redesign of the presentation - to make them easier to find and use - so there are remaining inconsistancies that we hope to begin to address with this review and survey.

Shadi: And Carlos is the other co-chair with Wilco, any comments?

Carlos: Looking at it now, wonder if it needs a Table of Contents?

Shawn: Yes I thought that was part of the plan.

Shadi: While you review, keep in mind that the ACT Rules are meant for makers of automated tools and manual testing methodologies, not for the general public. The people who decide how to test and what makes a pass or fail. So the review is not really for the content - it more about the framing, the cross linking, the navigation. As you review, look at how you find your way through the doc and understand how to find the specific inofrmation you are looking for and can access the specific rule or rules you are researching.
… another thing is the question of videos but Shawn and I can take this offline.

Shawn: Any other comments or questions or guidance from Carlos or Wilco? If not - a reminder that this will post on Monday and we would greatly appreciate quick turnaround for discussion next Friday.

Outreach

Shawn: There are several things we encourage everyone to do for outreach - look at the Work for this Week (W4TW). In addition to doing your own outreach, think about responding to other social media conversations and pointing to WAI resources. As well, we want to get better about recording how our resources are being used. I found reference to them for example in A List Apart and wanted to make note of it.
… this helps us understand and demonstrate our value. So three things: Actively promote, respond to other tweets, and make note of where it has been mentioned.

Michele: I attended a webinar, Girls Who Code...the topic was accessibility but they knew so little it was painful. What is our respnonse to something like that?

Shawn: We would identify what they need, see if we have things we can point them too or if not, use that need as a lense and maybe modify and elevate our wish list for materials that would be relelvant and appropriate for that type audience.

Michele: In some ways as I attend these webinars, it is to be aware of whether or not groups even understand these resources exist.

Shawn: Great idea and when possible send to the presenter in advance

<shawn> look at https://www.w3.org/WAI/resources/

Michele: Yes that could work but I did not know the presenters to offer resources in advance and the content was unfortunatly inaccurate. There was no really appropriate way to correct it in progress.
… so would it be useful to do webinars specifically about "let's talk about WCAG?"

Shawn: As an individual you can do what ever you have time and energy for, and we can point you to the recordings of what we've done in the past. Would love to followup.

Sharron:Shawn and Brent and I have done presentations at various conferences with names like the WAI to Accessibility or "A Walk theough WAI resources" to try to give people more of an understanding of the depth and bredth of the freely available resources we have developeed. It continues to astound me that so many people still don't know about our resources.
... While that can be discouraging it is truly gratifying to watch as we share them to see how well received (like bringing water to thirsty people in the desert). In my view it is one of the things EOWG does best - makes this thing that is complicated and often inspires fear and risk aversion - we turn it into a human centered activity that facilitates understanding from the perspective of serving genuine user needs.

Shawn: Part of the intro video course that WAI produced did include a tour of the WAI website but it got sidelined. Our biggest issue is not ideas for outreach but bandwidth to implement them effectively.

<shawn> TechShare Pro

Jade: The conference Tech Share Pro in Novemenber may be a great session and there is a massive audience.

Sharron: and good for us to do things outside of the strictly accessibility conferences

Michele: Accessibility folks tend to talk with one another. We should continue to try to reach larger audiences, I agree.

Shawn: Great thanks for all these ideas. Let's try to keep track these efforts.

Work for this Week

<brentb> Work for this Week: https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/EOWG_Meetings#Work_for_this_Week

Shawn: We are juggling several things, trying to balance between what feedback people need and the survey assignements. Several times recently we have asked you to do surveys instead of meeting. Updated user stories, curricula and more need your careful attention. Please don't wait to review, the editors work on the comments as soon as they are submitted. You can always add more comments as time permits later on since the survey results can be saved and completed later on.
… WCAG EM Report tool is one question, we did not have the bandwidth to do formal usability testing, we took input from those who use the existing tool but please do go through and try it out, commenters have found some glitches.
… you are welcome to ask for more time but please try not to wait for the last minute. We added a questions - have you finished?
… Survey for List of Courses is coming, survey will post next week and so that is something to be aware of. Also in W4TW is the outreach and the requirements for the changes to the video production plans (optional)
… the surveys are listed in priority order.

<shawn> https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/EOWG_Meetings#Work_for_this_Week

Brent: When we give you back the meeting time for survey, it is important that we have good participation in the surveys.

Shawn: As a W3C working group, we operate under a charter renewable every 3 or 4 years. The mentions of where our resources are being used demonstrates our value to the W3C and the greater community. As they renew the charter the adminstrators review meeting and survey participation. When you are unable to answer, please do register that you have seen the survey and unable to respond. Thanks.

Brent: So yes do please look at the surveys that have lined up schedule some time to do them and contribute as possible, much appreciated - thanks. That's all for today.
… any questions?

Carlos: Where do I get the T-shirts?

Shadi: TPAC when they are in person. Thanks all, see you next week.

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