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The Main WoT Web Conference is for discussing general WoT IG and WG topics and logistics, and to provide an opportunity to summarize and coordinate the activities of the various task forces. For information on individual task forces, please see the WoT Web Page or follow the links below to the individual task force Wiki pages.

Contents

WebConf Information

Call Logistics

Please see the W3C WG Calendar.

Schedule

Deliverable and F2F Meeting Plan

The schedule is under discussion; please see the draft in the wot repo.

Upcoming Publication Moratoriums

  • None currently

Useful resources

Ongoing Items

Ongoing Action Items

Publication

Wide Review

Communications
Done
Mostly Done
  • TD: TAG: still under review, TAG has done first pass, "largely happy", but want to re-review after seeing Architecture
In Progress
Drafts
To Do
  • Clean up and label issues (all repos)

Explainers

NECESSARY for wide review process. Would be good to link them together.

Process

Resources

  • Tools for W3C Spec Work
  • Useful material for process, minute-taking IRC setup, wide review, etc.
  • Any comments or requests for improvement?

Editors

  • Ongoing topics to discuss in Editor's call:
    • Terminology discussion
    • Document consistency check between Architecture and other specs (Scripting, Discovery)
    • Draft implementation reports
    • Schedule review

Use Case Review

Collaborations

Status of collaborations with Other W3C Groups.

WoT CG

WoT Japanese CG

Spatial Data on the Web IG

  • Ontology needed for geolocation data for use with WoT
  • Overlap with some external liaisons, e.g. with OGC, OpenAR, IEEE
  • Joint discussion with the Spatial Data on the Web WG (SDW-WG) on Jun 23 - draft minutes
    • joint call during TPAC not possible, instead want online meeting
    • We need to define next-charter deliverables, e.g. geolocation ontologies, discovery extensions, etc.
    • Next joint meeting on July 21 during the SDW call

Accessibility IG

  • To Do: Update/Add Use Cases and Requirements

Charters

WG Rechartering

  • AFTER the 12mo extension
  • Draft WG Charter for the next period, 2022
  • To do: update draft based on latest template for 2023
  • To do: update deliverables, calendar, etc.
  • See https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/978
  • Need to finalize and submit the new WG charter a few months before the end of the extended charter
  • Planned meetings Jan 16-18 to finalize new draft
    • Monday Jan 16: 8am-9am Eastern
    • Tuesday Jan 17: 8am-9am Eastern
    • Wednesday Jan 18: 8am-10am Eastern
  • should consider a common model for IoT security as well as data model and protocol

Liaisons

Status of engagements with external standards organizations.

OPC UA

ITU-T SG20

  • Next steps
    • ITU-T wants to "... focus on ontologies, digital twin and AI related aspects in the smart city context."
    • Plan to develop a document on a new smart cities ontology as an initial step.
    • Gyu Myoung Lee shared slides from WF-IoT
    • Next SG20 mtg is 19-28 July 2022; need further followup before then
    • We have proposed Gyu Myoung Lee joining a near-future main call for a 15 discussion

ECHONET

  • Next steps:
    • Clearly define concrete use cases and technical requirements for ECHONET/WoT Binding
    • Gap analysis: Identify missing features needed in WoT-next (to be covered in next charter)
    • Initial discussion to be done within the WoT-JP CG while we (WoT-WG/IG) are concentrating on spec finalization.

IEC CDD (Common Data Dictionary)

  • Ontologies for various industries - IEC61360, IEC62656
    • Units are a current topic of discussion, relevant to Profiles
  • Previous contacts with ISO TC184/SC4:
    • need clarification on how to refer to their ontologies from TD
    • some specific examples would be useful
    • parts are also used as upper ontology for ECLASS, so we will pick up a few things if we start with ECLASS
  • New contact with current IEC SC 3D - talking about how to proceed
    • They'd like to start with collaboration with the WoT-JP CG and bring feedback/input to the WoT-WG later.
    • Kaz will join their meeting on July 22 to confirm the next steps.
    • They already have liaison with ISO TC184/SC4 and ECLASS.

ECLASS

  • overlap with IEC discussion (see above)
  • need clarification on how to refer to their ontologies from TD
  • also a question about ECLASS logo on the WoT web page --> we have to ok for doing so
  • an example was given during the F2F that used ECLASS for Thing metadata, but there may be other use cases for interaction annotation; to be discussed

T2TRG/IETF

OneDM

OGC/OpenAR - Geospatial Data

  • Overlap in collaboration with Spatial Data on the Web IG
  • some discussion during the Use Cases call on Jan-25
  • Continue the discussion in Use Cases call

Microsoft DTDL

  • resources
  • Joint discussion with Microsoft DTDL on Tuesday, June 21
    • Minutes
    • Next steps:
      • Another meeting in about month, in UC slot: July 19
      • Agenda:
        • Goal is interconversion
        • need test plugfest project
        • need mapping of features, identification of gaps in our specs (both TD and Discovery), vocabulary

IEEE P2874

Possible

Cancellations and Schedule Updates

NOTE: If a meeting is marked as "tentative" in the W3C Calendar it means it is cancelled - people editing such calls should also put "CANCELLED" in the title. We are not "cancelling" meetings in that system since it can't be undone.

Holidays and Upcoming Events

  • Tuesday, October 3 is Unity Day in Germany
    • No cancellations planned; typically Oct 2 is taken off in Germany
  • Monday, October 9 is Thanksgiving in Canada and Columbus Day in the US; also Sports Day in Japan
  • Thursday, November 23 is Thanksgiving in the US; also Labor Appreciation Day in Japan
  • Monday, December 25 is Christmas
    • Last call of 2023: Wednesday, December 20
  • January 1, 2, 3 are holidays in Japan
    • First call of 2024: Monday, January 8

Cancellations

Status until September 30. Regular meetings will resume immediately after TPAC on Sept 18.

  • Monday
    • calls on October 2 are NOT cancelled
    • All meetings cancelled on October 9 due to holidays
  • Tuesday
    • Marketing
      • Call on October 3 cancelled
    • Use Case
      • Calls are suspended for the time being.
      • Will restart soon
      • Have reached out to APA to discuss TPAC followup
      • Waiting until other calls are reorganized (e.g. TD) to schedule
  • Wednesday
    • Profile
      • Calls are suspended for the time being.
  • Thursday
    • Architecture:
      • Calls are suspended for the time being.

Note: Please look in W3C Calendar for updated WebEx invites for Use Cases and Editor's calls. Note that if you see both a canceled meeting and an "active" meeting, it means I had to "uncancel" a meeting by creating a new entry, and the meeting will be held.

Agenda

27 September 2023

Duration: 2h (to have time for policy discussion and resolutions)

Chair: McCool

Regrets:

Scribe: Ege/Koster

Main Call Topics

Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts

Minutes

Quick Updates

  • IIWoT 2024 Workshop
    • Paper deadline 8 October 2023
    • Workshop to be held 6 Jan 2024
    • Could use a position paper. Normal length is 6 pages.
      • Who can write it?

Policies

Special Items


Meeting Schedule Changes

New WG Charter Review Status

Publications

Proposed Recommendations
  • AC Review completed
    • TD 1.1 REC draft has been finalized
      • Still need to complete static versions, etc.
      • TD: Ege to do, Kaz to check
      • Discovery and Architecture: McCool to do, Kaz to check
    • one question about interoperability checks on the Implementation Reports
      • describe that interoperability results could be included in the Implementation Reports by getting two implementations conforming to the specs and not out of scope
      • also describe that more detail about the Plugfest efforts around interoperability tests to be linked from the Implementation Reports
      • TO DO (McCool) Pull requests to update IR reports
  • After those updates, Recommendation transitions will be done shortly
    • aiming the end of September/start of October.
Related resources like Ontologies and Schemas

Press Release

TPAC 2023

Other Topics

Meetups
Liaisons
  • PR on OPC UA in wot repo
    • https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1105
    • Propose creating issue to capture further discussion from stakeholders (OPC UA, W3M, etc)
    • OPC UA is making rapid progress - we should discuss how to support them
Collaborations
Action Items
TF Reports
AOB?

For main call topics.

20 September 2023

Chair: McCool

Regrets:

Scribe: Luca

Main Call Topics

Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts

Minutes

Quick Updates

  • IIWoT 2024 Workshop
    • Paper deadline 8 October 2023
    • Workshop to be held 6 Jan 2024
    • Could use a position paper: Who can write it?

Policies

Meeting Schedule Changes

New WG Charter Review Status

Publications

Proposed Recommendations
  • AC Review completed
    • one comment on extra "at risk" note for WoT Thing Description 5.3.3.4
    • one question about interoperability checks on the Implementation Reports
      • describe that interoperability results could be included in the Implementation Reports by getting two implementations conforming to the specs and not out of scope
      • also describe that more detail about the Plugfest efforts around interoperability tests to be linked from the Implementation Reports
      • Pullrequests to be done
  • After those updates, Recommendation transitions will be done shortly
    • aiming the end of September/start of October.
Related resources like Ontologies and Schemas

Press Release

TPAC 2023

Other Topics

Meetups
  • WoT CG planning events
    • Meetup Oct 5 - Seam - Smart Homes
    • Bindings in Practice
    • Constrained Devices
  • WoT JP CG - planning an event on "Security"
    • estimated in a few months; working on program cmte
    • thinking of having regular, small seminars
    • Possible Digital Twins meetup topic (Kaz)
Liaisons
  • PR on OPC UA in wot repo
    • https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1105
    • Propose creating issue to capture further discussion from stakeholders (OPC UA, W3M, etc)
    • OPC UA is making rapid progress - we should discuss how to support them
Collaborations
Action Items
TF Reports
AOB?

For main call topics.

6 September 2023

Chair: McCool

Regrets:

Scribe: Sebastian

Main Call Topics

Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts

Minutes

Quick Updates

Policies

Schedule Changes

New WG Charter Review Status

  • Proposed WoT WG Charter
    • Strategy pipeline issue - Strategy team review complete
    • W3M (TiLT) Review concluded and the Charter has been approved
    • AC review concluded: 24 supports, 1 objection, 3 abstains
      • Objection needs to be addressed, but can be dealt with by adding back "all known" to draft charter.
      • Proposed Resolution: add back "all known" phrase to security success criteria in draft charter to resolve the objection.
      • However, actually, it's caused by the latest Charter template and we can't fix by ourselves.

Publications

  • Schedule
  • Proposed Recommendations
    • AC Review completed
    • Still working on Recommendation transitions
      • Due to delays and TPAC publication moratorium, will likely now be mid to end of September.
    • Changes to resolve TD issues and some AC review comments have been approved by director.
  • Still need to publish content for URLs mentioned in specs (e.g. ontologies)
    • Publication needs to ensure resources are "frozen" at point of publication
    • Option 1:
      • Create wot-resources repo (with limited access) to consolidate resources
    • Option 2:
      • Each task force manages resources in their own repo
      • Would be good to have standard procedure for "freezing", e.g. putting in appropriate "publication" sub-directory
  • Notes

Press Release

TPAC 2023 planning

Other Topics

Meetups
  • WoT CG planning events
    • Bindings in Practice
      • estimated end-July
    • Constrained Devices
      • no date yet
  • WoT JP CG - planning an event on "Security"
    • estimated in a few months; working on program cmte
    • thinking of having regular, small seminars
    • Possible Digital Twins meetup topic (Kaz)
Liaisons
  • PR on OPC UA in wot repo
    • https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1105
    • Propose creating issue to capture further discussion from stakeholders (OPC UA, W3M, etc)
    • OPC UA is making rapid progress - we should discuss how to support them
Collaborations
Action Items
TF Reports
AOB?

For main call topics.

9 August 2023

Note: this will be regular meeting, about 55m.

Chair: McCool

Regrets:

Scribe: Koster

Main Call Topics

Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts

Minutes

Quick Updates

  • Any?

Policies

Schedule Changes

New WG Charter Review Status

  • Proposed WoT WG Charter
    • Strategy pipeline issue - Strategy team review complete
    • W3M (TiLT) Review concluded and the Charter has been approved
    • AC Review has started on August 3
      • AC Review ongoing; deadline is August 31
      • Please ask your AC rep to respond
      • So far: 9 support, 1 abstain; need 20
      • 2mo extension of the current charter (to end of Sept) also approved

Publications

Press Release

TPAC 2023 planning

Other Topics

Meetups
  • WoT CG planning events
    • Bindings in Practice
      • estimated end-July
    • Constrained Devices
      • no date yet
  • WoT JP CG - planning an event on "Security"
    • estimated in a few months; working on program cmte
    • thinking of having regular, small seminars
    • Possible Digital Twins meetup topic (Kaz)
Liaisons
  • PR on OPC UA in wot repo
    • https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1105
    • Propose merging this PR so we have a clean MD file and link
    • Propose creating issue to capture further discussion from stakeholders (OPC UA, W3M, etc)
Collaborations
Action Items
TF Reports
AOB?

For main call topics.

2 August 2023

Note: this will be regular meeting, about 55m.

Chair: McCool

Regrets:

Scribe: Ege

Main Call Topics

Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts

Minutes

Quick Updates

  • Any?

Policies

Schedule Changes

New WG Charter Review Status

  • Proposed WoT WG Charter
    • Strategy pipeline issue - Strategy team review complete
    • W3M (TiLT) Review concluded and the Charter has been approved
    • AC Review form and Draft Review Request have been sent to the MarComm Team
    • AC Review will start soon - need 20 supports!
      • AC Review officially takes 1mo
      • 2mo extension of the current charter (to end of Sept) also approved
    • Will discuss liaisons later during planning.

TPAC 2023 planning

Publications

Press Release

  • Schedule
  • Narrative
    • Example from 2020
    • Why is it important?
      • (problem) Currently, IoT systems suffer from lack of interoperability and fragmentation.
      • (user needs) Customers want to be able to choose devices from multiple vendors without redesign.
      • (solution) The WoT recommendations provide a format for standardized descriptive information to allow easy integration of IoT devices and services.
    • What is new?
      • Thing Models – Provide a way to describe classes of things, such as products
      • Discovery – Provide easy access to Thing Descriptions
    • What is the impact?
      • Testimonials from WG members
      • Software packages and projects (OSS)
      • Adoption by adjacent SDOs (ECHONET and OPC UA and IPA DADC)
      • User community (users that are not WG members, WoT CG)
  • Testimonials
    • Will be making requests shortly by email, based on summary of main points
    • However, only testimonials from members can be used in press release
    • Should clarify narrative before asking for testimonials so they can be aligned

Other Topics

Meetups
  • WoT CG planning events
    • Bindings in Practice
      • estimated end-July
    • Constrained Devices
      • no date yet
  • WoT JP CG - planning an event on "Security"
    • estimated in a few months; working on program cmte
    • thinking of having regular, small seminars
    • Possible Digital Twins meetup topic (Kaz)
Liaisons
Collaborations
Action Items
TF Reports
AOB?

For main call topics.

26 July 2023

Note: this will be an extended meeting, about 1h55m in total, with 55m for the Main call topics and 1h for Planning topics, going into the Testing call slot but using Main call meeting logistics (Zoom/IRC).

Chair: Sebastian (main call) / Sebastian/McCool (planning)

Regrets:

Scribe:

  • Main: McCool
  • Planning: Mahda

Main Call Topics

Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts

Minutes

Quick Updates

  • Any?

Schedule Changes

New WG Charter Review Status

  • Proposed WoT WG Charter
    • Strategy pipeline issue - Strategy team review complete
    • W3M (TiLT) Review concluded and the Charter has been approved
    • AC Review will start soon - need 20 supports!
      • 2mo extension of the current charter (to end of Sept) also approved
    • Will discuss liaisons later during planning.

TPAC 2023 planning

Publications

Press Release

  • Schedule
    • Need to aim for time of Recommendation transition, e.g. end of August
      • 1-2 weeks to draft, 2 weeks for WG CfR review, 2 weeks for MarComm review...
      • WG schedule
  • Narrative
    • Example from 2020
    • Why is it important?
      • (problem) Currently, IoT systems suffer from lack of interoperability and fragmentation.
      • (user needs) Customers want to be able to choose devices from multiple vendors without redesign.
      • (solution) The WoT recommendations provide a format for standardized descriptive information to allow easy integration of IoT devices and services.
    • What is new?
      • Thing Models – Provide a way to describe classes of things, such as products
      • Discovery – Provide easy access to Thing Descriptions
    • What is the impact?
      • Testimonials from WG members
      • Software packages and projects (OSS)
      • Adoption by adjacent SDOs (ECHONET and OPC UA and IPA DADC)
      • User community (users that are not WG members, WoT CG)
  • Testimonials
    • Will be making requests shortly by email, based on summary of main points
    • However, only testimonials from members can be used in press release
    • Should clarify narrative before asking for testimonials so they can be aligned

Other Topics

Meetups
  • WoT CG planning events
    • Bindings in Practice
      • estimated end-July
    • Constrained Devices
      • no date yet
  • WoT JP CG - planning an event on "Security"
    • estimated in a few months; working on program cmte
    • thinking of having regular, small seminars
    • Possible Digital Twins meetup topic (Kaz)
Liaisons
Collaborations
Action Items
TF Reports
AOB?

For main call topics.

Planning Topics for the Next Charter

Continue planning discussing immediately after main call topics using "Testing" timeslot.

Find here the agenda and details of the previous planning meetings /2023_WoT_Next_Charter_Detailed_Planning

Agenda
  1. Review/Summary of Previous Discussion (Sebastian) - 10m
    1. also see https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/planning
  2. Use Case and Requirements Analysis (McCool) - 25m
  3. Backlog
    1. Profiles - 25m

19 July 2023

Note: this will be an extended meeting, about 1h55m in total, with 45m for the Main call topics and 1h10m for Planning topics, going into the Testing call slot but using Main call meeting logistics (Zoom/IRC).

Chair: McCool (main call) / Sebastian/Koster (planning)

Regrets:

Scribe:

  • Main: Sebastian
  • Planning: Daniel

Main Call Topics

Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts

Minutes

  • July-12
    • Members should review in advance of meeting.
    • Will immediately call for resolution to publish.
    • Will only open for review in the meeting if someone raises an issue.
    • Proposed policy: https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1102

Quick Updates

  • Any?

Schedule Changes

New WG Charter Review Status

  • Proposed WoT WG Charter
    • Strategy pipeline issue - Strategy team review complete
    • W3M (TiLT) Review concluded and the Charter has been approved
      • AC Review will start shortly - need 20 supports!
      • 2mo extension of the current charter (to end of Sept) also approved
    • Will discuss liaisons later during planning.

TPAC 2023 planning

Publications

Testimonials for Press Release

  • Could still use more, please talk to your AC representative
  • Note they are now separate from implementation descriptions
  • For Press Release will look for separate testimonials from management
    • Need to aim for time of Recommendation transition, e.g. mid-August
    • Example from 2020
    • Would also be good to make statement about adoption, e.g. list of users
    • Also need to define the narrative: why is this important?
    • However, only testimonials from members can be used in press release
    • Should clarify narrative before asking for testimonials so they can be aligned
  • WG schedule - see dates for the above
    • Have started negotiation with MarCom
      • Need to justify a Press Release, it is NOT automatic
      • What is new? Why is it important?
  • See https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/425 for discussion
    • Please comment on issue
    • Will be discussed further in joint Marketing/Chairs on July 25 (2h - 7-9 Eastern)
      • Starting with Marketing call logistics

Other Topics

Meetups
  • WoT CG planning events
    • Bindings in Practice
      • estimated end-July
    • Constrained Devices
      • no date yet
  • WoT JP CG - planning an event on "Security"
    • estimated in a few months; working on program cmte
    • thinking of having regular, small seminars
    • Possible Digital Twins meetup topic (Kaz)
Liaisons

Will discuss as part of planning meeting after main call topics.

Collaborations
Action Items
TF Reports
AOB?

For main call topics.

Planning Topics for the Next Charter

Continue planning discussing immediately after main call topics using "Testing" timeslot.

Find here the agenda and details of the previous planning meetings /2023_WoT_Next_Charter_Detailed_Planning

Agenda
  1. Overall structure
  2. Decide what we should do with the Protocol Binding based PRs in wot-charter-drafts repo
    1. https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Detailed+Work+Items%22
  3. TD Planning
    1. https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1106
  4. Issues
    1. Versioning Discussion: https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/1082
  5. Weekly web conference schedule

12 July 2023

Note: this will be an extended meeting, about 1h55m in total, with 45m for the Main call topics and 1h10m for Planning topics, going into the Testing call slot but using Main call meeting logistics (Zoom/IRC).

Chair: McCool (main call) / Sebastian/Koster (planning)

Regrets:

Scribe:

  • Main: Ege
  • Planning: Luca

Main Call Topics

Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts

Minutes

  • July-05
    • Members should review in advance of meeting.
    • Will immediately call for resolution to publish.
    • Will only open for review in the meeting if someone raises an issue.
    • Proposed policy: https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1102

Quick Updates

  • Any?

Schedule Changes

New WG Charter Review Status

  • Proposed WoT WG Charter
    • Strategy pipeline issue - Strategy team review complete
    • Have begun W3M Review - ongoing, some comments; still in progress
    • Usually takes 2 weeks (followed by the AC Review, which usually takes one month or so)
    • Calendar has been updated but at this point we may need a small extension of the current charter
    • To deal with OPC UA Binding and liaison some changes may be needed, but can be done separately - will discuss later during planning.
    • PR (merged last week) to tweak start date, remove "details" link: https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/pull/117
    • Kaz has generated a PR to handle the comments from the TiLT Team: https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/pull/118
      • Let's quickly review it and merge the PR to move ahead!

TPAC 2023 planning

Publications

Testimonials for Press Release

  • Could still use more, please talk to your AC representative
  • Note they are now separate from implementation descriptions
  • For Press Release will look for separate testimonials from management
    • Need to aim for time of Recommendation transition, e.g. mid-August
    • Example from 2020
    • Would also be good to make statement about adoption, e.g. list of users
    • Also need to define the narrative: why is this important?
    • However, only testimonials from members can be used in press release
    • Should clarify narrative before asking for testimonials so they can be aligned
  • WG schedule - see dates for the above
    • Have started negotiation with MarCom
      • Need to justify a Press Release, it is NOT automatic
      • What is new? Why is it important?
  • See https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/425 for discussion
    • Please comment on issue
    • Will be discussed further in Marketing on July 18

Other Topics

Meetups
  • WoT CG planning events
    • Bindings in Practice
      • estimated end-July
    • Constrained Devices
      • no date yet
  • WoT JP CG - planning an event on "Security"
    • estimated in a few months; working on program cmte
    • thinking of having regular, small seminars
    • Possible Digital Twins meetup topic (Kaz)
Liaisons

Will discuss as part of planning meeting after main call topics.

Collaborations
Action Items
TF Reports
AOB?

For main call topics.

Planning Topics for the Next Charter

Continue planning discussing immediately after main call topics using "Testing" timeslot.

Find here the agenda and details of the previous planning meetings /2023_WoT_Next_Charter_Detailed_Planning

Agenda
  1. Overall structure
  2. Decide what we should do with the Protocol Binding based PRs in wot-charter-drafts repo
    1. https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Detailed+Work+Items%22
  3. TD Planning
    1. https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1106
  4. Issues
    1. Versioning Discussion: https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/1082
  5. Weekly web conference schedule

5 July 2023

Note: this will be an extended meeting, about 1h25 in total, with 40m for the Main call topics and 45m for Planning topics, going into the Testing call slot but using Main call meeting logistics (Zoom/IRC).

Chair: McCool (main call) / Sebastian (planning)

Regrets:

Scribe: Luca

Main Call Topics

Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts

Minutes

  • June-28
    • Members should review in advance of meeting.
    • Will immediately call for resolution to publish.
    • Will only open for review in the meeting if someone raises an issue.
    • Proposed policy: https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1102

Quick Updates

  • Any?

Schedule Changes

New WG Charter Review Status

  • Proposed WoT WG Charter
    • Strategy pipeline issue - Strategy team review complete
    • Have begun W3M Review - ongoing, some comments
    • Usually takes 2 weeks (followed by the AC Review, which usually takes one month or so)
    • Calendar has been updated but at this point we may need a small extension of the current charter
    • To deal with OPC UA Binding and liaison some changes may be needed, but can be done separately - will discuss later during planning.
    • PR to tweak start date, remove "details" link: https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/pull/117

TPAC 2023 planning

Publications

Testimonials for Press Release

  • Could still use more, please talk to your AC representative
  • Note they are now separate from implementation descriptions
  • For Press Release will look for separate testimonials from management
    • Need to aim for time of Recommendation transition, e.g. mid-August
    • Example from 2020
    • Would also be good to make statement about adoption, e.g. list of users
    • Also need to define the narrative: why is this important?
    • However, only testimonials from members can be used in press release
  • WG schedule - see dates for the above
    • Have started negotiation with MarCom
      • Need to justify a Press Release, it is NOT automatic
      • What is new? Why is it important?

Other Topics

Meetups
  • WoT CG planning an event on "Bindings in Practice"
    • estimated end-July
  • WoT JP CG - planning an event on "Security"
    • estimated in a few months
    • thinking of having regular, small seminars
Liaisons

Will discuss as part of planning meeting after main call topics.

Collaborations
Action Items
TF Reports
AOB?

For main call topics.

Planning Topics for the Net Charter

Continue planning discussing immediately after main call topics using "Testing" timeslot.

Approval of the planning meeting minutes
Agenda

28 June 2023

Chair: McCool

Regrets: Sebastian, Ege (?)

Scribe: Koster

Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts

Minutes

  • June-21 (review the main call part)

Quick Updates

  • Any?

Schedule Changes

Zoom call notification - W3C Calendar has been updated

New WG Charter Review Status

TPAC 2023 planning

Publications

  • Schedule
  • Proposed Recommendations
    • Architecture 1.1, Thing Description 1.1, and Discovery all now in "Awaiting Publication" state
    • See https://github.com/w3c/transitions/issues
    • Kaz will work on the actual publication, should be done soon
    • After publication, 1mo for AC review, then 1-2wks to 1mo for revision
      • Expect earliest date for Recommendation transition is mid-August
  • Notes
    • Binding Templates and Scripting API
    • Kaz is also working on these, should be done soon

Planning - Current Charter

  • Testimonials
    • Could still use more, please talk to your AC representative
    • Note they are now separate from implementation descriptions
    • For Press Release will look for separate testimonials from management
      • Need to aim for time of Recommendation transition, e.g. mid-August
      • Example from 2020
      • Would also be good to make statement about adoption, e.g. list of users
      • Also need to define the narrative: why is this important?
      • However, only testimonials from members can be used in press release
    • WG schedule - see dates for the above
      • Should probably start negotiation with Marcom and narrative NOW

Planning - Next Charter

Meetups

  • Binding Meetup
  • JP Meetup by WoT-JP CG
    • Schedule under discussion
    • two more meetings with IPA DADC (Takenaka) and NHK being planned for later this year
  • Possible Global Meetup?

Liaisons

  • Review Liaisons
  • OPC UA
    • OPC UA Conference last week, presentations by Sebastian and Erich
    • Joint call (with chairs) planned for Monday

Collaborations

Action Items

TF Reports

AOB?

21 June 2023

Chair: McCool

Scribe: Cristiano

7 June 2023

Chair: McCool

Regrets: Sebastian

Scribe: Daniel

Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts

Minutes

Quick Updates

Schedule Changes

  • TD call changes => continue to use the current TD slot on Wednesday during the current Charter period (until the end of July)
  • Chair call changes => tentatively using the Use Cases slot on Tuesday
  • Dial-in information on the TF wiki pages is out-of-date. => To be discussed next time, because we need to concentrate on the Proposed REC publication and the Next Charter Planning Meeting.
    • Question: How to link the *new* Zoom credentials?

WG Charter review status

  • Proposed WoT WG Charter
  • Strategy pipeline issue
    • Still waiting for the review by the Privacy group.
    • Also need to clarify the roles of the proposed three co-Chairs.
    • Kaz will talk about the next step during the next Strategy meeting on June 13.

TPAC 2023 planning

Publications

Planning - Current Charter

  • Testimonials
    • Could still use more, please talk to your AC representative
    • Note they are now separate from implementation descriptions
    • For Press Release will look for separate testimonials from management
      • Example from 2020
      • Would also be good to make statement about adoption, e.g. list of users
      • Also need to define the narrative: why is this important?
      • However, only testimonials from members can be used in press release
    • Need to clarify the deadline on the WG schedule - between PR and REC; need 1mo for W3M to review
      • Should probably start negotiation with Marcom and narrative NOW

Planning - Next Charter

Review Liaisons

Review Collaborations

  • Anything?

Review Ongoing Action Items

TF Reports

AOB?

31 May 2023

Chair: McCool

Regrets: Sebastian

Scribe: Ege

Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts

Minutes

Quick Updates

Schedule Changes

  • TD call changes
  • Chair call changes

WG Charter review status

  • Proposed WoT WG Charter
  • Strategy pipeline issue
    • Still waiting for the review by the Privacy group.
    • Also need to clarify the roles of the proposed three co-Chairs.
    • Kaz will talk about the next step during the next Strategy meeting on June 13.

TPAC 2023 planning

Planning

  • For the current Charter period
    • Publication schedule
    • Testimonials
      • Could still use more, please talk to your AC representative
      • Note they are now separate from implementation descriptions
      • For Press Release will look for separate testimonials from management
        • Example from 2020
        • Would also be good to make statement about adoption, e.g. list of users
        • Also need to define the narrative: why is this important?
        • However, only testimonials from members can be used in press release
      • Need to clarify the deadline on the WG schedule - between PR and REC; need 1mo for W3M to review
        • Should probably start negotiation with Marcom and narrative NOW
  • For the next Charter period

Review Liaisons

Review Collaborations

  • Anything?

Review Ongoing Action Items

TF Reports

AOB?

24 May 2023

Chair: McCool

Regrets: Sebastian

Scribe: Luca

17 May 2023

Chair: McCool/Sebastian

Regrets: any?

Scribe: Sebastian

26 April 2023

Chair: Sebastian/McCool

Regrets: any?

Scribe: Cristiano

19 April 2023

Chair: McCool

Regrets: Sebastian, Ege

Scribe: Lagally

12 April 2023

Chair: Sebastian/McCool

Regrets: any?

Scribe: McCool

5 April 2023

Chair: McCool

Regrets: any?

Scribe: Ege

29 March 2023

Chair: McCool

Regrets: any?

Scribe: Koster

  • Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts
  • Minutes
  • Quick updates
    • any?
  • Planning
    • Test Dev Meeting
      • First meeting for TD
        • Global Meeting: second hour of TD slot - 3/29 15:00 UTC
        • JP Meeting: 3/28 14:00 JST - done yesteday
      • Second meeting for Architecture - to be decided
        • Use Arch call Mar 30 to finalize Dev review material for Arch?
        • Arch call cancelled March 30, reviews to be done offline
        • Dev meetings for Arch on April 12? (Second hour of TD call slot)
      • Third meeting for Discovery - to be decided
        • Use Discovery calls Apr 3/10 to prep Dev review material for Discovery?
        • Dev meetings for Discovery on April 17? (Discovery call slot)
    • Testfest during the week of April 3
      • 3 days - 1h meeting a day
      • Tuesday at 10am Eastern (after use cases call)
      • Wed at 9am Eastern (testing call)
      • Thursday at 9am Eastern (after arch call)
    • Binding Meetup
      • JP Meetup by WoT-JP CG
        • two more meetings with IPA DADC (Takenaka) and NHK to be organized after the Test Dev Meeting
      • What about a possible Global Meetup?
  • Publications progress check
  • WG Charter
    • Draft proposed WG Charter
    • How to proceed?
      • need a resolution to send for AC review
      • continue Charter Meetings... see Session 6, Day 2 agenda
        • When can we make a resolution to send the draft WG Charter to the W3M/Wide review/AC review?
        • what to be described by the Charter
        • abstract description of each expected deliverable (including why it's necessary)
        • relationship among deliverables
        • policy on how to deal with contributions and liaisons, etc.
      • we should update the details document, if we link it from the charter; don't necessarily have to finish policy docs if not linked
    • Testimonials
      • Need to start collecting these, note they are now separate from implementation descriptions
      • Who/For What/Until When/How?
    • Societal Impact Questionnaire
  • Review Liaisons - should be discussed as part of the new WG Charter topic.
  • Review Collaborations
    • Anything?
  • Review Ongoing Action Items
  • TF Reports
  • AOB?

22 March 2023

Chair: Sebastian

Regrets: McCool

Scribe: Cristiano

  • Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts
  • Minutes
  • Quick updates
    • Use Case policy discussion
      • Policy for use case collection to be decided, e.g., how to get use cases from which industry how, and how to extract requirements from those industry-based use cases
      • Use Case Requirements - Template - Geolocation PR
      • Should be discussed during the Use Cases calls.
  • Planning
    • Testing
      • Testing Developer Meeting during the week of March 27 - Doodle
        • Global Meeting:
          • Reuse second hour of TD slot: 3/29 15:00 UTC
          • Use Architecture call too?
        • JP Meeting:
          • 3/30 11:00 JST
          • Note: Takenaka can't make March 30th, so should consider 3/28 13:00 JST as well.
          • WoT-JP guys need clarification on what all the at-risk features really mean before the JP Meeting.
        • Is 1h enough for both Arch and TD? What about Discovery?
        • We may need to have additional Dev meetings...
        • What order do we do them in? Material for TD is mostly ready, others not.
        • Proposal (McCool):
          • Use Arch call Mar 23 to finalize charter
          • Use Dev meetings Mar 28/29 to review TD assertions
          • Use Arch call Mar 30 to finalize Dev review material for Arch
          • Use Discovery calls Apr 3/10 to prep Dev review material for Discovery
          • Schedule additional Dev meetings for Arch and Discovery, maybe April 5 and April 12.
      • Testfest during the week of April 3
        • 3 days - 1h meeting a day
        • Tuesday at 10am Eastern (after use cases call)
        • Wed at 9am Eastern (testing call)
        • Thursday at 9am Eastern (after arch call)
    • Binding Meetup
      • JP Meetup by WoT-JP CG
        • two more meetings planned with IPA DADC and NHK to be organized
      • What about a possible Global Meetup?
  • Publications progress check
  • WG Charter
    • Draft proposed WG Charter
    • How to proceed?
      • need a resolution to send for AC review
      • continue Charter Meetings... see Session 6, Day 2 agenda
        • When can we make a resolution to send the draft WG Charter to the W3M/Wide review/AC review?
        • what to be described by the Charter
        • abstract description of each expected deliverable (including why it's necessary)
        • relationship among deliverables
        • policy on how to deal with contributions and liaisons, etc.
      • we should update the details document, if we link it from the charter; don't necessarily have to finish policy docs if not linked
    • Testimonials
      • Need to start collecting these, note they are now separate from implementation descriptions
      • Who/For What/Until When/How?
    • Societal Impact Questionnaire
  • Review Liaisons - should be discussed as part of the new WG Charter topic.
  • Review Collaborations
    • Anything?
  • Review Ongoing Action Items
  • TF Reports
  • AOB?

15 March 2023

Chair: McCool

Regrets: any?

Scribe: Sebastian

  • Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts
  • Minutes - review skipped?
  • Quick updates
    • Use Cases call on March 14 cancelled due to DST change confusion - When to have the next call?
      • Discussion:
        • Policy for use case collection to be decided, e.g., how to get use cases from which industry how, and how to extract requirements from those industry-based use cases
        • Use Case Requirements - Template - Geolocation PR
    • Cancellations and TF Meeting Schedule
  • Planning
    • Testing
      • Testfest during the week of March 20 - Doodle
        • Current candidates
          • Monday, 3/20 12:00 UTC (5:00 PDT, 9:00 ADT, 13:00 CET, 21:00 JST)
          • Monday, 3/20 13:00 UTC (6:00 PDT, 10:00 ADT, 14:00 CET, 22:00 JST)
          • Monday, 3/20 14:00 UTC (7:00 PDT, 11:00 ADT, 15:00 CET, 23:00 JST)
          • Wednesday, 3/22 13:00 UTC (6:00 PDT, 10:00 ADT, 14:00 CET, 22:00 JST)
          • Thursday, 3/23 13:00 UTC (6:00 PDT, 10:00 ADT, 14:00 CET, 22:00 JST)
          • Thursday, 3/23 14:00 UTC (7:00 PDT, 11:00 ADT, 15:00 CET, 23:00 JST)
      • Testing Developer Meeting during the week of March 27 - Doodle
        • Global Meeting candidates:
          • 3/27 13:00 UTC (6:00 PDT, 10:00 ADT, 14:00 CET, 22:00 JST) w/o Toumura
          • 3/28 12:00 UTC (5:00 PDT, 9:00 ADT, 13:00 CET, 21:00 JST) w/o Lagally
          • 3/28 13:00 UTC (6:00 PDT, 10:00 ADT, 14:00 CET, 22:00 JST) w/o Lagally
          • 3/29 01:00 UTC (18:00-1d PDT, 21:00-1d ADT, 02:00 CET, 10:00 JST) w/o Lagally
          • 3/29 02:00 UTC (19:00-1d PDT, 22:00-1d ADT, 03:00 CET, 11:00 JST) w/o Lagally
          • 3/29 13:00 UTC (6:00 PDT, 10:00 ADT, 14:00 CET, 22:00 JST) w/o Lagally
          • 3/30 01:00 UTC (18:00-1d PDT, 21:00-1d ADT, 02:00 CET, 10:00 JST) w/o Lagally
          • 3/30 02:00 UTC (19:00-1d PDT, 22:00-1d ADT, 03:00 CET, 11:00 JST) w/o Lagally
          • 3/30 09:00 UTC (02:00 PDT, 05:00 ADT, 11:00 CET, 18:00 JST) w/o Koster
          • 3/30 13:00 UTC (6:00 PDT, 10:00 ADT, 14:00 CET, 22:00 JST) w/o Lagally
          • 3/30 14:00 UTC (7:00 PDT, 11:00 ADT, 15:00 CET, 23:00 JST) w/o Lagally
        • JP Meeting candidates
          • 3/28 13:00 JST
          • 3/30 11:00 JST

8 March 2023

Chair: McCool

Regrets: Sebastian

Scribe: Daniel

1 March 2023

Used for charter discussion.

22 February 2023

Chair: McCool/Sebastian

Regrets: any?

Scribe: Ege

15 February 2023

Cancelled due to the Charter Meeting.

8 February 2023

Chair: Sebastian/McCool

Regrets: any?

Scribe: Daniel

1 February 2023

Chair: McCool/Sebastian

Regrets: any?

Scribe: Sebastian

25 January 2023

Chair: Sebastian/McCool

Regrets: any?

Scribe: Michael Koster

11 January 2023

Chair: McCool/Sebastian

Regrets: any?

Scribe: Cristiano

Repo Management

Renaming Master to Main

See: Renaming the "master" branches to "main" (Member-only)

  • Make sure to update your forks and local copies
  • BEFORE making change in local copies or fork, check in all pending edits/updates
  • Do NOT rebase a fork until you make this change
  • To change in forks, look under Settings/Branches and change "master" to "main"
  • For local copies...
  • Simple way: delete and reclone
  • Alternatively, for local direct clones of the w3c repo
      1. git branch -m master main
      2. git fetch origin
      3. git branch -u origin/main main
  • See above link for instructions

You can understand what this does better by reading the git branch docs.

Here -m "moves" the branch (renaming master to main locally, basically) and -u associates a remote "upstream" branch with a local branch, so that git pull does the right thing (for instance). Note this means that you MUST update the remote first before trying to update your local copies. If you have other remotes you don't have to do anything, just either use the new branch name explicitly (e.g. git fetch upstream; git merge upstream/main) or make sure the upstream repo has renamed master to main if you want fetch and merge corresponding branches in one step using git pull upstream. Here upstream is the name that I (McCool) use for a remote pointing at the w3c repo in MY setup. I cloned my original local copies from my own fork on github, so I have origin pointing at my own fork. I then used git remote add upstream https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing to add an additional remote called upstream pointed at the corresponding W3C repo I can use for rebasing, etc. I do PRs by pushing up changes to my own fork, then doing PRs to the W3C repos from there using the web interface. See above link for more instructions.

Past Content

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