Main WoT WebConf
The Main WoT Web Conference is for discussing general WoT IG and WG topics and logistics, and to provide an opportunity to summarize and coordinate the activities of the various task forces. For information on individual task forces, please see the WoT Web Page or follow the links below to the individual task force Wiki pages.
Contents
- 1 WebConf Information
- 2 Call Logistics
- 3 Schedule
- 4 Useful resources
- 5 Ongoing Items
- 6 Cancellations and Schedule Updates
- 7 Agenda
- 7.1 27 September 2023
- 7.1.1 Main Call Topics
- 7.2 20 September 2023
- 7.3 6 September 2023
- 7.4 9 August 2023
- 7.5 2 August 2023
- 7.6 26 July 2023
- 7.6.1 Main Call Topics
- 7.6.2 Planning Topics for the Next Charter
- 7.7 19 July 2023
- 7.7.1 Main Call Topics
- 7.7.2 Planning Topics for the Next Charter
- 7.8 12 July 2023
- 7.8.1 Main Call Topics
- 7.8.2 Planning Topics for the Next Charter
- 7.9 5 July 2023
- 7.9.1 Main Call Topics
- 7.9.2 Planning Topics for the Net Charter
- 7.10 28 June 2023
- 7.10.1 Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts
- 7.10.2 Minutes
- 7.10.3 Quick Updates
- 7.10.4 Schedule Changes
- 7.10.5 New WG Charter Review Status
- 7.10.6 TPAC 2023 planning
- 7.10.7 Publications
- 7.10.8 Planning - Current Charter
- 7.10.9 Planning - Next Charter
- 7.10.10 Meetups
- 7.10.11 Liaisons
- 7.10.12 Collaborations
- 7.10.13 Action Items
- 7.10.14 TF Reports
- 7.10.15 AOB?
- 7.11 21 June 2023
- 7.12 7 June 2023
- 7.12.1 Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts
- 7.12.2 Minutes
- 7.12.3 Quick Updates
- 7.12.4 Schedule Changes
- 7.12.5 WG Charter review status
- 7.12.6 TPAC 2023 planning
- 7.12.7 Publications
- 7.12.8 Planning - Current Charter
- 7.12.9 Planning - Next Charter
- 7.12.10 Review Liaisons
- 7.12.11 Review Collaborations
- 7.12.12 Review Ongoing Action Items
- 7.12.13 TF Reports
- 7.12.14 AOB?
- 7.13 31 May 2023
- 7.13.1 Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts
- 7.13.2 Minutes
- 7.13.3 Quick Updates
- 7.13.4 Schedule Changes
- 7.13.5 WG Charter review status
- 7.13.6 TPAC 2023 planning
- 7.13.7 Planning
- 7.13.8 Review Liaisons
- 7.13.9 Review Collaborations
- 7.13.10 Review Ongoing Action Items
- 7.13.11 TF Reports
- 7.13.12 AOB?
- 7.14 24 May 2023
- 7.15 17 May 2023
- 7.16 26 April 2023
- 7.17 19 April 2023
- 7.18 12 April 2023
- 7.19 5 April 2023
- 7.20 29 March 2023
- 7.21 22 March 2023
- 7.22 15 March 2023
- 7.23 8 March 2023
- 7.24 1 March 2023
- 7.25 22 February 2023
- 7.26 15 February 2023
- 7.27 8 February 2023
- 7.28 1 February 2023
- 7.29 25 January 2023
- 7.30 11 January 2023
- 7.1 27 September 2023
- 8 Repo Management
- 9 Past Content
WebConf Information
Call Logistics
Please see the W3C WG Calendar.
Schedule
Deliverable and F2F Meeting Plan
The schedule is under discussion; please see the draft in the wot repo.
Upcoming Publication Moratoriums
- None currently
Useful resources
- Kaz's slides on WoT Deliverable Options
- Kaz's slides on Tools for W3C Spec Work
- W3C WoT WG Calendar/IG Calendar
- Please export ICS files using "Personal Links", after logging in as a W3C member, to get personal calendar entries with joining information
Ongoing Items
Ongoing Action Items
Publication
Wide Review
Communications
Done
- Accessibility questionnaire; applies to all
- Security questionnaire; applies to all
- TD: Internationalization: completed, reviewed, (almost) all updates merged
Mostly Done
- TD: TAG: still under review, TAG has done first pass, "largely happy", but want to re-review after seeing Architecture
In Progress
- Architecture (TAG)
- Architecture - issue
- Discovery - issue
- Privacy
- Security
- Accessibility
- Internationalization
Drafts
- Architecture (TAG)
- To do: Profile
- Privacy
- See: https://github.com/w3cping/privacy-request/issues/new/choose
- To do: Profile
- Security
- See: https://github.com/w3c/security-request/issues/new/choose
- To do: Profile
- Internationalization:
- See: https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/issues/new/choose
- To do: Profile
- Accessibility
- See: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/new/choose
- To do: Profile and Architecture
To Do
- Clean up and label issues (all repos)
Explainers
NECESSARY for wide review process. Would be good to link them together.
- Complete:
- Explainers in progress for:
- Profiles (Lagally) - draft, review needed
Process
- Async PR process proposal
- Agreed to discuss as part of charter renewal
Resources
- Tools for W3C Spec Work
- Useful material for process, minute-taking IRC setup, wide review, etc.
- Any comments or requests for improvement?
Editors
- Ongoing topics to discuss in Editor's call:
- Terminology discussion
- Document consistency check between Architecture and other specs (Scripting, Discovery)
- Draft implementation reports
- Schedule review
Use Case Review
- Use case coverage and due diligence
Collaborations
Status of collaborations with Other W3C Groups.
WoT CG
- GitHub Issues to discuss the next steps, labelled with CG:
- To Do:
- work on WoT CG charter (See CG charter guide and repo)
- define which Marketing TF activities should move to the WoT CG
- define other collaboration: https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/288
- Open Issues
- Should the CG manage the WoT web page?
- Github issue, pros and cons.
- need to clarify which information to be handled by the CG and which by the IG/WG
- Question 1: Do we want to transfer all the WoT Marketing site to the CG?
- Question 2: Do we want to handle the CG(s) as part of the consolidated "WoT@W3C Activity" like the " Publishing@W3C Activity"?
- Call for meeting on 5 July in Marketing call to discuss, come to a consensus, follow up with discussion in main call
WoT Japanese CG
- Next event: Publishing, including Metaverse, October-ish
- Last event: Smart Building Use Cases, on April 22
Spatial Data on the Web IG
- Ontology needed for geolocation data for use with WoT
- Overlap with some external liaisons, e.g. with OGC, OpenAR, IEEE
- Joint discussion with the Spatial Data on the Web WG (SDW-WG) on Jun 23 - draft minutes
- joint call during TPAC not possible, instead want online meeting
- We need to define next-charter deliverables, e.g. geolocation ontologies, discovery extensions, etc.
- Next joint meeting on July 21 during the SDW call
Accessibility IG
- To Do: Update/Add Use Cases and Requirements
Charters
WG Rechartering
- AFTER the 12mo extension
- Draft WG Charter for the next period, 2022
- To do: update draft based on latest template for 2023
- To do: update deliverables, calendar, etc.
- See https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/978
- Need to finalize and submit the new WG charter a few months before the end of the extended charter
- Planned meetings Jan 16-18 to finalize new draft
- Monday Jan 16: 8am-9am Eastern
- Tuesday Jan 17: 8am-9am Eastern
- Wednesday Jan 18: 8am-10am Eastern
- should consider a common model for IoT security as well as data model and protocol
Liaisons
Status of engagements with external standards organizations.
OPC UA
- Issue for gathering collab requirements: https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/1016
- Joint meeting planned for July 1
- Logistics: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/12b636a2-d435-4752-bd77-6fde10d1b74e
- Planed slides for presentation: https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/liaisons/opcf/2022-07-01-OPC-UA-WOT-Pre-Meeting.pdf
- PR for technical objectives: https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1020
- Met with Jeff about the next steps on the OPC UA liaison on March 24
- minutes (Member-only)
- need to clarify the technical details on our expectations
- need to have further informal discussions with OPC representatives too
- Next steps
- Dedicated liaison calls including WoT and OPC UA representatives (Sebastian)
- Requirements discussion based on the current use case and proposed WoT/OPC UA technical requirements
- OPC UA PlugFest participation (similar to ECHONET)
ITU-T SG20
- Next steps
- ITU-T wants to "... focus on ontologies, digital twin and AI related aspects in the smart city context."
- Plan to develop a document on a new smart cities ontology as an initial step.
- Gyu Myoung Lee shared slides from WF-IoT
- Next SG20 mtg is 19-28 July 2022; need further followup before then
- We have proposed Gyu Myoung Lee joining a near-future main call for a 15 discussion
ECHONET
- Next steps:
- Clearly define concrete use cases and technical requirements for ECHONET/WoT Binding
- Gap analysis: Identify missing features needed in WoT-next (to be covered in next charter)
- Initial discussion to be done within the WoT-JP CG while we (WoT-WG/IG) are concentrating on spec finalization.
IEC CDD (Common Data Dictionary)
- Ontologies for various industries - IEC61360, IEC62656
- Units are a current topic of discussion, relevant to Profiles
- Previous contacts with ISO TC184/SC4:
- need clarification on how to refer to their ontologies from TD
- some specific examples would be useful
- parts are also used as upper ontology for ECLASS, so we will pick up a few things if we start with ECLASS
- New contact with current IEC SC 3D - talking about how to proceed
- They'd like to start with collaboration with the WoT-JP CG and bring feedback/input to the WoT-WG later.
- Kaz will join their meeting on July 22 to confirm the next steps.
- They already have liaison with ISO TC184/SC4 and ECLASS.
ECLASS
- overlap with IEC discussion (see above)
- need clarification on how to refer to their ontologies from TD
- also a question about ECLASS logo on the WoT web page --> we have to ok for doing so
- an example was given during the F2F that used ECLASS for Thing metadata, but there may be other use cases for interaction annotation; to be discussed
T2TRG/IETF
- May 5 - [link Digital Twin Meeting]
- Presentation given March 10
- https://github.com/t2trg/2022-03-summary
- Led to new DDOS security consideration for Discovery
OneDM
OGC/OpenAR - Geospatial Data
- Overlap in collaboration with Spatial Data on the Web IG
- some discussion during the Use Cases call on Jan-25
- Continue the discussion in Use Cases call
Microsoft DTDL
- resources
- Joint discussion with Microsoft DTDL on Tuesday, June 21
- Minutes
- Next steps:
- Another meeting in about month, in UC slot: July 19
- Agenda:
- Goal is interconversion
- need test plugfest project
- need mapping of features, identification of gaps in our specs (both TD and Discovery), vocabulary
IEEE P2874
- IEEE P2874 - Spatial Web Protocol, Architecture, and Governance Working Group
- Next meeting 29 June
- Need to follow up on June 1 meeting
Possible
- ASHRAE
- BACNET
- Brick
- OneM2M
- GaiaX
- Solid CG
- EdgeX Foundry
- Home Assistant
- CSA/Matter (formerly Zigbee Alliance/CHIP)
- Intel is now a member, McCool reviewing draft documents
- could just review Zigbee simple liaison
Cancellations and Schedule Updates
NOTE: If a meeting is marked as "tentative" in the W3C Calendar it means it is cancelled - people editing such calls should also put "CANCELLED" in the title. We are not "cancelling" meetings in that system since it can't be undone.
Holidays and Upcoming Events
- Tuesday, October 3 is Unity Day in Germany
- No cancellations planned; typically Oct 2 is taken off in Germany
- Monday, October 9 is Thanksgiving in Canada and Columbus Day in the US; also Sports Day in Japan
- Thursday, November 23 is Thanksgiving in the US; also Labor Appreciation Day in Japan
- Monday, December 25 is Christmas
- Last call of 2023: Wednesday, December 20
- January 1, 2, 3 are holidays in Japan
- First call of 2024: Monday, January 8
Cancellations
Status until September 30. Regular meetings will resume immediately after TPAC on Sept 18.
- Monday
- calls on October 2 are NOT cancelled
- All meetings cancelled on October 9 due to holidays
- Tuesday
- Marketing
- Call on October 3 cancelled
- Use Case
- Calls are suspended for the time being.
- Will restart soon
- Have reached out to APA to discuss TPAC followup
- Waiting until other calls are reorganized (e.g. TD) to schedule
- Marketing
- Wednesday
- Profile
- Calls are suspended for the time being.
- Profile
- Thursday
- Architecture:
- Calls are suspended for the time being.
- Architecture:
Note: Please look in W3C Calendar for updated WebEx invites for Use Cases and Editor's calls. Note that if you see both a canceled meeting and an "active" meeting, it means I had to "uncancel" a meeting by creating a new entry, and the meeting will be held.
Agenda
27 September 2023
Duration: 2h (to have time for policy discussion and resolutions)
Chair: McCool
Regrets:
Scribe: Ege/Koster
Main Call Topics
Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts
- W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG
- Patent Policy FAQ - Q6
- Membership classes and fees
- New Members: none
- New IE request: none
Minutes
- September-20
- Policy: https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/policies/minutes.md
- Members should review minutes in advance of meeting.
- Will immediately call for resolution to publish.
- Will only open for review in the meeting if someone raises an issue.
- NOTE: W3C minutes are installed on the W3C server and available as "https://www.w3.org/YYYY/MM/DD-wot-minutes.html"
Quick Updates
- IIWoT 2024 Workshop
- Paper deadline 8 October 2023
- Workshop to be held 6 Jan 2024
- Could use a position paper. Normal length is 6 pages.
- Who can write it?
Policies
- Review proposed policies and issue calls for resolution.
- Previously Announced Call for Resolutions (sent August 9; refreshed call Sept 20):
- Adopt the “Asynchronous Decisions” policy defined in https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/proposals/policies/async-decision.md (PR: https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1127)
- Adopt the “Chairs’ Decision Process and Quorum” policy defined in https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/proposals/policies/chair-decision-process.md (PR: https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1128)
- Adopt the “Group Decisions” policy clarifications defined in https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/proposals/policies/decisions.md (note: the base policy for this is already defined in the proposed 2023 WoT Charter) (PR: https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1129)
- Adopt the “Policy Adoption” policy defined in https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/proposals/policies/policy-adoption.md (PR: https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1130)
- Adopt the “Social Media” policy defined in https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/proposals/policies/social-media.md (PR: https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1131)
- Discussion
- https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/1117
- Any other new policies needed?
Special Items
Meeting Schedule Changes
- Holidays and Upcoming Events
- Cancellations
- PLEASE CHECK W3C CALENDAR FOR UPDATES
- In general, wiki pages should *only* link to W3C Calendar and not replicate call-in information
- Zoom call notification - W3C Calendar has been updated
- PLEASE CHECK W3C CALENDAR FOR UPDATES
- Milestones calculator
- Schedule
New WG Charter Review Status
- Proposed WoT WG Charter
- Strategy pipeline issue - Strategy team review complete
- Charter has been approved, but some correction around security/privacy mitigation needed, around both the Charter template and the WoT WG Charter
- Kaz has talked with the commenter and the W3C Strategy Team during TPAC to resolve and publish
- WoT WG Charter has reverted "all known" for security/privacy mitigation
- See also:
- Expect to start new charter on 3 October 2023.
Publications
Proposed Recommendations
- AC Review completed
- TD 1.1 REC draft has been finalized
- Still need to complete static versions, etc.
- TD: Ege to do, Kaz to check
- Discovery and Architecture: McCool to do, Kaz to check
- one question about interoperability checks on the Implementation Reports
- describe that interoperability results could be included in the Implementation Reports by getting two implementations conforming to the specs and not out of scope
- also describe that more detail about the Plugfest efforts around interoperability tests to be linked from the Implementation Reports
- TO DO (McCool) Pull requests to update IR reports
- TD 1.1 REC draft has been finalized
- After those updates, Recommendation transitions will be done shortly
- aiming the end of September/start of October.
Related resources like Ontologies and Schemas
- Still need to publish content for URLs mentioned in specs (e.g. ontologies)
- Publication needs to ensure resources are "frozen" at point of publication
- Option 1:
- Create wot-resources repo (with limited access) to consolidate resources
- Option 2:
- Each task force manages resources in their own repo
- Would be good to have standard procedure for "freezing", e.g. putting in appropriate "publication" sub-directory
- Discovery resources are now ready: https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/tree/main/context
- Option 1:
- Notes
- Binding Templates and Scripting API - still pending
- Watch these URLs:
Press Release
- Schedule
- Need to aim for time of Recommendation transition
- https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/MARKETING/PressReleaseDrafts/2023/draft.md
- Issues and PRs:
- https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1133 - Mention Notes (to discuss)
- https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1116 - Editorial changes (Merged)
- https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1115 - Figure (update done, need to copy)
- 2 weeks for WG CfR review, 2 weeks for MarComm review...
- WG schedule
- Need to aim for time of Recommendation transition
- Testimonials
- Requests for testimonials have been made... still pending
- Only testimonials from members can be used in press release
- See calendar for updated deadlines
- Call for Resolution to publish on October 4 (two weeks from now):
- Proposal: Press Release to announce REC transitions for WoT TD 1.1, Architecture 1.1, and Discovery to be published.
TPAC 2023
- Draft minutes to be reviewed
- Need to summarize joint sessions too
- Also need to capture any notes and action items from the meetings
Other Topics
Meetups
- WoT CG planning events
- Meetup Oct 5 - Seam - Smart Homes: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/251e6917-340c-47f5-a0ed-a3ca85c71102/
- Bindings in Practice
- Constrained Devices
- WoT JP CG - planning an event on "Security"
- estimated in a few months; working on program cmte
- thinking of having regular, small seminars
- Possible Digital Twins meetup topic (Kaz)
Liaisons
- PR on OPC UA in wot repo
- https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1105
- Propose creating issue to capture further discussion from stakeholders (OPC UA, W3M, etc)
- OPC UA is making rapid progress - we should discuss how to support them
Collaborations
- Review Collaborations
Action Items
- Review Ongoing Action Items
TF Reports
- Scripting
- Security
- Discovery
- Marketing
- Use Cases
- PlugFest/Testing
- Thing Description/Binding Templates
- Architecture and Profiles
AOB?
For main call topics.
20 September 2023
Chair: McCool
Regrets:
Scribe: Luca
Main Call Topics
Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts
- W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG
- Patent Policy FAQ - Q6
- Membership classes and fees
- New Members: none
- New IE request: none
Minutes
- September-06
- Policy: https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/policies/minutes.md
- Members should review minutes in advance of meeting.
- Will immediately call for resolution to publish.
- Will only open for review in the meeting if someone raises an issue.
- NOTE: W3C minutes are installed on the W3C server and available as "https://www.w3.org/YYYY/MM/DD-wot-minutes.html"
Quick Updates
- IIWoT 2024 Workshop
- Paper deadline 8 October 2023
- Workshop to be held 6 Jan 2024
- Could use a position paper: Who can write it?
Policies
- Review proposed policies and issue calls for resolution.
- Previously Announced Call for Resolutions (sent August 9):
- Adopt the “Asynchronous Decisions” policy defined in https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/proposals/policies/async-decision.md
- Adopt the “Chairs’ Decision Process and Quorum” policy defined in https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/proposals/policies/chair-decision-process.md
- Adopt the “Group Decisions” policy clarifications defined in https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/proposals/policies/decisions.md (note: the base policy for this is already defined in the proposed 2023 WoT Charter)
- Adopt the “Policy Adoption” policy defined in https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/proposals/policies/policy-adoption.md
- Adopt the “Social Media” policy defined in https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/proposals/policies/social-media.md
- Discussion
- https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/1117
- Any other new policies needed?
Meeting Schedule Changes
- Holidays and Upcoming Events
- Cancellations
- PLEASE CHECK W3C CALENDAR FOR UPDATES
- In general, wiki pages should *only* link to W3C Calendar and not replicate call-in information
- Zoom call notification - W3C Calendar has been updated
- PLEASE CHECK W3C CALENDAR FOR UPDATES
- Milestones calculator
- Schedule
New WG Charter Review Status
- Proposed WoT WG Charter
- Strategy pipeline issue - Strategy team review complete
- Charter has been approved, but some correction around security/privacy mitigation needed, around both the Charter template and the WoT WG Charter
- Kaz has talked with the commenter and the W3C Strategy Team during TPAC to resolve and publish
- In short, both the Charter template and the WoT WG Charter will revert the removal of "all known" for security/privacy mitigation
- See also:
- Expect to start new charter on 1 October 2023.
Publications
Proposed Recommendations
- AC Review completed
- one comment on extra "at risk" note for WoT Thing Description 5.3.3.4
- one question about interoperability checks on the Implementation Reports
- describe that interoperability results could be included in the Implementation Reports by getting two implementations conforming to the specs and not out of scope
- also describe that more detail about the Plugfest efforts around interoperability tests to be linked from the Implementation Reports
- Pullrequests to be done
- After those updates, Recommendation transitions will be done shortly
- aiming the end of September/start of October.
Related resources like Ontologies and Schemas
- Still need to publish content for URLs mentioned in specs (e.g. ontologies)
- Publication needs to ensure resources are "frozen" at point of publication
- Option 1:
- Create wot-resources repo (with limited access) to consolidate resources
- Option 2:
- Each task force manages resources in their own repo
- Would be good to have standard procedure for "freezing", e.g. putting in appropriate "publication" sub-directory
- Discovery resources are now ready: https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/tree/main/context
- Option 1:
- Notes
- Binding Templates and Scripting API - still pending
- Watch these URLs:
Press Release
- Schedule
- Need to aim for time of Recommendation transition
- https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/MARKETING/PressReleaseDrafts/2023/draft.md
- Issues and PRs:
- https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1116 - Editorial changes
- https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1115 - Figure
- 2 weeks for WG CfR review, 2 weeks for MarComm review...
- WG schedule
- Need to aim for time of Recommendation transition
- Testimonials
- Requests for testimonials have been made... still pending
- Only testimonials from members can be used in press release
- See calendar for updated deadlines
- Call for Resolution to publish on October 4 (two weeks from now):
- Proposal: Press Release to announce REC transitions for WoT TD 1.1, Architecture 1.1, and Discovery to be published.
TPAC 2023
- Draft minutes to be reviewed
- Need to summarize joint sessions too
- Also need to capture any notes and action items from the meetings
Other Topics
Meetups
- WoT CG planning events
- Meetup Oct 5 - Seam - Smart Homes
- Bindings in Practice
- Constrained Devices
- WoT JP CG - planning an event on "Security"
- estimated in a few months; working on program cmte
- thinking of having regular, small seminars
- Possible Digital Twins meetup topic (Kaz)
Liaisons
- PR on OPC UA in wot repo
- https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1105
- Propose creating issue to capture further discussion from stakeholders (OPC UA, W3M, etc)
- OPC UA is making rapid progress - we should discuss how to support them
Collaborations
- Review Collaborations
Action Items
- Review Ongoing Action Items
TF Reports
- Scripting
- Security
- Discovery
- Marketing
- Use Cases
- PlugFest/Testing
- Thing Description/Binding Templates
- Architecture and Profiles
AOB?
For main call topics.
6 September 2023
Chair: McCool
Regrets:
Scribe: Sebastian
Main Call Topics
Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts
- W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG
- Patent Policy FAQ - Q6
- Membership classes and fees
- New Members: none
- New IE request: none
Minutes
- August-09
- Policy: https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/policies/minutes.md
- Members should review minutes in advance of meeting.
- Will immediately call for resolution to publish.
- Will only open for review in the meeting if someone raises an issue.
- NOTE: W3C minutes are installed on the W3C server and available as "https://www.w3.org/YYYY/MM/DD-wot-minutes.html"
Quick Updates
- IIWoT 2024 Workshop
- Paper deadline 8 October 2023
- Workshop to be held 6 Jan 2024
Policies
- Review proposed policies and issue calls for resolution.
- Previously Announced Call for Resolutions (sent August 9):
- Adopt the “Asynchronous Decisions” policy defined in https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/proposals/policies/async-decision.md
- Adopt the “Chairs’ Decision Process and Quorum” policy defined in https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/proposals/policies/chair-decision-process.md
- Adopt the “Group Decisions” policy clarifications defined in https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/proposals/policies/decisions.md (note: the base policy for this is already defined in the proposed 2023 WoT Charter)
- Adopt the “Policy Adoption” policy defined in https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/proposals/policies/policy-adoption.md
- Adopt the “Social Media” policy defined in https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/proposals/policies/social-media.md
- Discussion
- https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/1117
- Any other new policies needed?
Schedule Changes
- Cancellations
- PLEASE CHECK W3C CALENDAR FOR UPDATES
- In general, wiki pages should *only* link to W3C Calendar and not replicate call-in information
- Zoom call notification - W3C Calendar has been updated
- PLEASE CHECK W3C CALENDAR FOR UPDATES
- Post-TPAC Schedule
- Restart immediately after TPAC? Or cancel meetings for a week for recovery?
New WG Charter Review Status
- Proposed WoT WG Charter
- Strategy pipeline issue - Strategy team review complete
- W3M (TiLT) Review concluded and the Charter has been approved
- AC review concluded: 24 supports, 1 objection, 3 abstains
- Objection needs to be addressed, but can be dealt with by adding back "all known" to draft charter.
- Proposed Resolution: add back "all known" phrase to security success criteria in draft charter to resolve the objection.
- However, actually, it's caused by the latest Charter template and we can't fix by ourselves.
- Kaz is working with the W3C Strategy Team about the bigger issue on the Charter template.
- See also: https://github.com/w3c/charter-drafts/issues/416
Publications
- Schedule
- Proposed Recommendations
- AC Review completed
- Still working on Recommendation transitions
- Due to delays and TPAC publication moratorium, will likely now be mid to end of September.
- Changes to resolve TD issues and some AC review comments have been approved by director.
- Still need to publish content for URLs mentioned in specs (e.g. ontologies)
- Publication needs to ensure resources are "frozen" at point of publication
- Option 1:
- Create wot-resources repo (with limited access) to consolidate resources
- Option 2:
- Each task force manages resources in their own repo
- Would be good to have standard procedure for "freezing", e.g. putting in appropriate "publication" sub-directory
- Notes
- Binding Templates and Scripting API - still pending
- Watch these URLs:
Press Release
- Schedule
- Need to aim for time of Recommendation transition
- https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/MARKETING/PressReleaseDrafts/2023/draft.md
- Issues and PRs:
- https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1116 - Editorial changes
- https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1115 - Figure
- 2 weeks for WG CfR review, 2 weeks for MarComm review...
- WG schedule
- Need to aim for time of Recommendation transition
- Testimonials
- Requests for testimonials have been made... still pending
- Only testimonials from members can be used in press release
- Will have to figure out how timing aligns with vacations, etc.
TPAC 2023 planning
- TPAC 2023 official page
- WoT TPAC 2023 wiki
- Still need to clarify the agenda, including joint sessions
- Presentations repo
Other Topics
Meetups
- WoT CG planning events
- Bindings in Practice
- estimated end-July
- Constrained Devices
- no date yet
- Bindings in Practice
- WoT JP CG - planning an event on "Security"
- estimated in a few months; working on program cmte
- thinking of having regular, small seminars
- Possible Digital Twins meetup topic (Kaz)
Liaisons
- PR on OPC UA in wot repo
- https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1105
- Propose creating issue to capture further discussion from stakeholders (OPC UA, W3M, etc)
- OPC UA is making rapid progress - we should discuss how to support them
Collaborations
- Review Collaborations
Action Items
- Review Ongoing Action Items
TF Reports
- Scripting
- Security
- Discovery
- Marketing
- Use Cases
- PlugFest/Testing
- Thing Description/Binding Templates
- Architecture and Profiles
AOB?
For main call topics.
9 August 2023
Note: this will be regular meeting, about 55m.
Chair: McCool
Regrets:
Scribe: Koster
Main Call Topics
Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts
- W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG
- Patent Policy FAQ - Q6
- Membership classes and fees
- New Members: none
- New IE request: none
Minutes
- August-02
- Proposed policy: https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/proposals/policies/minutes.md
- ONCE ADOPTED (NOT YET, TECHNICALLY):
- Members should review minutes in advance of meeting.
- Will immediately call for resolution to publish.
- Will only open for review in the meeting if someone raises an issue.
- NOTE: W3C minutes are installed on the W3C server and available as "https://www.w3.org/YYYY/MM/DD-wot-minutes.html"
- Proposed policy: https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/proposals/policies/minutes.md
Quick Updates
- Any?
Policies
- Review proposed policies and issue calls for resolution.
- https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/proposals/policies/
- Call for Resolutions
- Below link should work for both members and invited experts now!
- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-wg/2023Aug/0000.html
- New Proposed Policies
- Close PR without merging? https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1005
- Close issue? https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/1028
- New issue: https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/1117
Schedule Changes
- Cancellations
- PLEASE CHECK W3C CALENDAR FOR UPDATES
- In general, wiki pages should *only* link to W3C Calendar and not replicate call-in information
- Zoom call notification - W3C Calendar has been updated
- Security call will be moving
- Starting Aug 7, Security call is starting 1h later - Calendar updated
- BUT: No Security or Discovery calls next three weeks, until Sept 4
- PLEASE CHECK W3C CALENDAR FOR UPDATES
- Schedule for next three weeks
- Other cancellations?
New WG Charter Review Status
- Proposed WoT WG Charter
- Strategy pipeline issue - Strategy team review complete
- W3M (TiLT) Review concluded and the Charter has been approved
- AC Review has started on August 3
- AC Review ongoing; deadline is August 31
- Please ask your AC rep to respond
- So far: 9 support, 1 abstain; need 20
- 2mo extension of the current charter (to end of Sept) also approved
Publications
- Schedule
- Proposed Recommendations
- Now published as of July 11!
- See also https://www.w3.org/news/2023/call-for-review-wot-architecture-1-1-thing-description-1-1-and-wot-discovery-are-w3c-proposed-recommendations/
- After publication, 1mo for AC review, then 1-2wks to 1mo for revision
- Expect earliest date for Recommendation transition is mid-August
- AC Review has started - deadline was August 8
- Need 20 supports
- Already have some comments
- https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/PR-wot-architecture11/results (Member-only)
- 23 supports, 1 suggests changes, 1 abstains
- https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/PR-wot-thing-description11/results (Member-only)
- 22 supports, 1 suggests changes, 1 does not support (non-blocking, fixable error), 2 abstain
- The problem is related to "108: td-security-combo-exclusive-oneof-or-allof" from the Implementation Report
- https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/PR-wot-discovery/results (Member-only)
- 22 supports, 1 change, 1 abstain
- Notes
- Binding Templates and Scripting API - still pending
- Watch these URLs:
Press Release
- Schedule
- Need to aim for time of Recommendation transition, e.g. end of August
- https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/MARKETING/PressReleaseDrafts/2023/draft.md
- Issues and PRs:
- https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1116 - Editorial changes
- https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1115 - Figure
- 2 weeks for WG CfR review, 2 weeks for MarComm review...
- WG schedule
- Need to aim for time of Recommendation transition, e.g. end of August
- Testimonials
- Assuming PR Draft is approved, Marcomm will be making requests shortly by email, based on draft
- Only testimonials from members can be used in press release
- Will have to figure out how timing aligns with vacations, etc.
TPAC 2023 planning
- TPAC 2023 official page
- WoT TPAC 2023 wiki
- Still need to clarify the agenda, including joint sessions
- Some input/meeting time suggestions from APA
- Still need to clarify the agenda, including joint sessions
Other Topics
Meetups
- WoT CG planning events
- Bindings in Practice
- estimated end-July
- Constrained Devices
- no date yet
- Bindings in Practice
- WoT JP CG - planning an event on "Security"
- estimated in a few months; working on program cmte
- thinking of having regular, small seminars
- Possible Digital Twins meetup topic (Kaz)
Liaisons
- PR on OPC UA in wot repo
- https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1105
- Propose merging this PR so we have a clean MD file and link
- Propose creating issue to capture further discussion from stakeholders (OPC UA, W3M, etc)
Collaborations
- Review Collaborations
Action Items
- Review Ongoing Action Items
TF Reports
- Scripting
- Security
- Discovery
- Marketing
- Use Cases
- PlugFest/Testing
- Thing Description/Binding Templates
- Architecture and Profiles
AOB?
For main call topics.
2 August 2023
Note: this will be regular meeting, about 55m.
Chair: McCool
Regrets:
Scribe: Ege
Main Call Topics
Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts
- W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG
- Patent Policy FAQ - Q6
- Membership classes and fees
- New Members: none
- New IE request: none
Minutes
- July-26
- Members should review in advance of meeting.
- Will immediately call for resolution to publish.
- Will only open for review in the meeting if someone raises an issue.
- Proposed policy: https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/proposals/policies/minutes.md
- NOTE: W3C minutes are installed on the W3C server and available as "https://www.w3.org/YYYY/MM/DD-wot-minutes.html"
Quick Updates
- Any?
Policies
- Review proposed policies and issue calls for resolution.
Schedule Changes
- Cancellations
- PLEASE CHECK W3C CALENDAR FOR UPDATES
- In general, wiki pages should *only* link to W3C Calendar and not replicate call-in information
- Zoom call notification - W3C Calendar has been updated
- Security call will be moving
- Starting Aug 7, Security call will start 1h later - Calendar to be updated
- PLEASE CHECK W3C CALENDAR FOR UPDATES
New WG Charter Review Status
- Proposed WoT WG Charter
- Strategy pipeline issue - Strategy team review complete
- W3M (TiLT) Review concluded and the Charter has been approved
- AC Review form and Draft Review Request have been sent to the MarComm Team
- AC Review will start soon - need 20 supports!
- AC Review officially takes 1mo
- 2mo extension of the current charter (to end of Sept) also approved
- Will discuss liaisons later during planning.
TPAC 2023 planning
- TPAC 2023 official page
- WoT TPAC 2023 wiki
- Still need to clarify the agenda, including joint sessions
- Some input/meeting time suggestions from APA
- Still need to clarify the agenda, including joint sessions
Publications
- Schedule
- Proposed Recommendations
- Now published as of July 11!
- See also https://www.w3.org/news/2023/call-for-review-wot-architecture-1-1-thing-description-1-1-and-wot-discovery-are-w3c-proposed-recommendations/
- After publication, 1mo for AC review, then 1-2wks to 1mo for revision
- Expect earliest date for Recommendation transition is mid-August
- AC Review has started
- Need 20 supports - so 5 more!
- Already have some comments
- https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/PR-wot-architecture11/results (Member-only)
- 15 supports
- https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/PR-wot-thing-description11/results (Member-only)
- 14 supports, 1 comment noting an error (that we can fix)
- The problem is related to "108: td-security-combo-exclusive-oneof-or-allof" from the Implementation Report
- https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/PR-wot-discovery/results (Member-only)
- 16 supports
- Notes
- Binding Templates and Scripting API - still pending
- Watch these URLs:
Press Release
- Schedule
- Need to aim for time of Recommendation transition, e.g. end of August
- https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/MARKETING/PressReleaseDrafts/2023/draft.md
- 2 weeks for WG CfR review, 2 weeks for MarComm review...
- WG schedule
- Need to aim for time of Recommendation transition, e.g. end of August
- Narrative
- Example from 2020
- Why is it important?
- (problem) Currently, IoT systems suffer from lack of interoperability and fragmentation.
- (user needs) Customers want to be able to choose devices from multiple vendors without redesign.
- (solution) The WoT recommendations provide a format for standardized descriptive information to allow easy integration of IoT devices and services.
- What is new?
- Thing Models – Provide a way to describe classes of things, such as products
- Discovery – Provide easy access to Thing Descriptions
- What is the impact?
- Testimonials from WG members
- Software packages and projects (OSS)
- Adoption by adjacent SDOs (ECHONET and OPC UA and IPA DADC)
- User community (users that are not WG members, WoT CG)
- Testimonials
- Will be making requests shortly by email, based on summary of main points
- However, only testimonials from members can be used in press release
- Should clarify narrative before asking for testimonials so they can be aligned
Other Topics
Meetups
- WoT CG planning events
- Bindings in Practice
- estimated end-July
- Constrained Devices
- no date yet
- Bindings in Practice
- WoT JP CG - planning an event on "Security"
- estimated in a few months; working on program cmte
- thinking of having regular, small seminars
- Possible Digital Twins meetup topic (Kaz)
Liaisons
- PR on OPC UA in wot repo
- https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1105
- Please review and comment
Collaborations
- Review Collaborations
Action Items
- Review Ongoing Action Items
TF Reports
- Scripting
- Security
- Discovery
- Marketing
- Use Cases
- PlugFest/Testing
- Thing Description/Binding Templates
- Architecture and Profiles
AOB?
For main call topics.
26 July 2023
Note: this will be an extended meeting, about 1h55m in total, with 55m for the Main call topics and 1h for Planning topics, going into the Testing call slot but using Main call meeting logistics (Zoom/IRC).
Chair: Sebastian (main call) / Sebastian/McCool (planning)
Regrets:
Scribe:
- Main: McCool
- Planning: Mahda
Main Call Topics
Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts
- W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG
- Patent Policy FAQ - Q6
- Membership classes and fees
- New Members: none
- New IE request: none
Minutes
- July-19
- Members should review in advance of meeting.
- Will immediately call for resolution to publish.
- Will only open for review in the meeting if someone raises an issue.
- Proposed policy: https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1102
- NOTE: W3C minutes are installed on the W3C server and available as "https://www.w3.org/YYYY/MM/DD-wot-minutes.html"
Quick Updates
- Any?
Schedule Changes
- Cancellations
- PLEASE CHECK W3C CALENDAR FOR UPDATES
- In general, wiki pages should *only* link to W3C Calendar and not replicate call-in information
- Zoom call notification - W3C Calendar has been updated
- Security call will be moving
- Starting Aug 7, Security call will start 1h later - Calendar to be updated
- Aug 1 meeting will be at the usual time
- PLEASE CHECK W3C CALENDAR FOR UPDATES
New WG Charter Review Status
- Proposed WoT WG Charter
- Strategy pipeline issue - Strategy team review complete
- W3M (TiLT) Review concluded and the Charter has been approved
- AC Review will start soon - need 20 supports!
- 2mo extension of the current charter (to end of Sept) also approved
- Will discuss liaisons later during planning.
TPAC 2023 planning
- TPAC 2023 official page
- WoT TPAC 2023 wiki
- Still need to clarify the agenda, including joint sessions
- Some input/meeting time suggestions from APA
- Still need to clarify the agenda, including joint sessions
Publications
- Schedule
- Proposed Recommendations
- Now published as of July 11!
- See also https://www.w3.org/news/2023/call-for-review-wot-architecture-1-1-thing-description-1-1-and-wot-discovery-are-w3c-proposed-recommendations/
- After publication, 1mo for AC review, then 1-2wks to 1mo for revision
- Expect earliest date for Recommendation transition is mid-August
- AC Review has started
- Need 20 supports - so 10 more!
- Already have some comments
- https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/PR-wot-architecture11/results (Member-only)
- 10 supports
- https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/PR-wot-thing-description11/results (Member-only)
- 8 supports, 1 comment noting an error (that we can fix)
- The problem is related to "108: td-security-combo-exclusive-oneof-or-allof" from the Implementation Report
- https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/PR-wot-discovery/results (Member-only)
- 9 supports
- Notes
- Binding Templates and Scripting API - still pending
- Watch these URLs:
Press Release
- Schedule
- Need to aim for time of Recommendation transition, e.g. end of August
- 1-2 weeks to draft, 2 weeks for WG CfR review, 2 weeks for MarComm review...
- WG schedule
- Need to aim for time of Recommendation transition, e.g. end of August
- Narrative
- Example from 2020
- Why is it important?
- (problem) Currently, IoT systems suffer from lack of interoperability and fragmentation.
- (user needs) Customers want to be able to choose devices from multiple vendors without redesign.
- (solution) The WoT recommendations provide a format for standardized descriptive information to allow easy integration of IoT devices and services.
- What is new?
- Thing Models – Provide a way to describe classes of things, such as products
- Discovery – Provide easy access to Thing Descriptions
- What is the impact?
- Testimonials from WG members
- Software packages and projects (OSS)
- Adoption by adjacent SDOs (ECHONET and OPC UA and IPA DADC)
- User community (users that are not WG members, WoT CG)
- Testimonials
- Will be making requests shortly by email, based on summary of main points
- However, only testimonials from members can be used in press release
- Should clarify narrative before asking for testimonials so they can be aligned
Other Topics
Meetups
- WoT CG planning events
- Bindings in Practice
- estimated end-July
- Constrained Devices
- no date yet
- Bindings in Practice
- WoT JP CG - planning an event on "Security"
- estimated in a few months; working on program cmte
- thinking of having regular, small seminars
- Possible Digital Twins meetup topic (Kaz)
Liaisons
- PR on OPC UA in wot repo
- https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1105
- Please review and comment
Collaborations
- Review Collaborations
Action Items
- Review Ongoing Action Items
TF Reports
- Scripting
- Security
- Discovery
- Marketing
- Use Cases
- PlugFest/Testing
- Thing Description/Binding Templates
- Architecture and Profiles
AOB?
For main call topics.
Planning Topics for the Next Charter
Continue planning discussing immediately after main call topics using "Testing" timeslot.
Find here the agenda and details of the previous planning meetings /2023_WoT_Next_Charter_Detailed_Planning
Agenda
- Review/Summary of Previous Discussion (Sebastian) - 10m
- Use Case and Requirements Analysis (McCool) - 25m
- Backlog
- Profiles - 25m
19 July 2023
Note: this will be an extended meeting, about 1h55m in total, with 45m for the Main call topics and 1h10m for Planning topics, going into the Testing call slot but using Main call meeting logistics (Zoom/IRC).
Chair: McCool (main call) / Sebastian/Koster (planning)
Regrets:
Scribe:
- Main: Sebastian
- Planning: Daniel
Main Call Topics
Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts
- W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG
- Patent Policy FAQ - Q6
- Membership classes and fees
- New Members: Mahda Noura (Siemens) - semantics and security
- New IE request: none
Minutes
- July-12
- Members should review in advance of meeting.
- Will immediately call for resolution to publish.
- Will only open for review in the meeting if someone raises an issue.
- Proposed policy: https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1102
Quick Updates
- Any?
Schedule Changes
- Cancellations
- PLEASE CHECK W3C CALENDAR FOR UPDATES
- In general, wiki pages should *only* link to W3C Calendar and not replicate call-in information
- Zoom call notification - W3C Calendar has been updated
- PLEASE CHECK W3C CALENDAR FOR UPDATES
New WG Charter Review Status
- Proposed WoT WG Charter
- Strategy pipeline issue - Strategy team review complete
- W3M (TiLT) Review concluded and the Charter has been approved
- AC Review will start shortly - need 20 supports!
- 2mo extension of the current charter (to end of Sept) also approved
- Will discuss liaisons later during planning.
TPAC 2023 planning
- TPAC 2023 official page
- WoT TPAC 2023 wiki
- Still need to clarify the agenda, including joint sessions
- Some input/meeting time suggestions from APA
- Still need to clarify the agenda, including joint sessions
Publications
- Schedule
- Proposed Recommendations
- Now published as of July 11!
- See also https://www.w3.org/news/2023/call-for-review-wot-architecture-1-1-thing-description-1-1-and-wot-discovery-are-w3c-proposed-recommendations/
- After publication, 1mo for AC review, then 1-2wks to 1mo for revision
- Expect earliest date for Recommendation transition is mid-August
- Notes
- Binding Templates and Scripting API - still pending
- Watch these URLs:
Testimonials for Press Release
- Could still use more, please talk to your AC representative
- Note they are now separate from implementation descriptions
- For Press Release will look for separate testimonials from management
- Need to aim for time of Recommendation transition, e.g. mid-August
- Example from 2020
- Would also be good to make statement about adoption, e.g. list of users
- Also need to define the narrative: why is this important?
- However, only testimonials from members can be used in press release
- Should clarify narrative before asking for testimonials so they can be aligned
- WG schedule - see dates for the above
- Have started negotiation with MarCom
- Need to justify a Press Release, it is NOT automatic
- What is new? Why is it important?
- Have started negotiation with MarCom
- See https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/425 for discussion
- Please comment on issue
- Will be discussed further in joint Marketing/Chairs on July 25 (2h - 7-9 Eastern)
- Starting with Marketing call logistics
Other Topics
Meetups
- WoT CG planning events
- Bindings in Practice
- estimated end-July
- Constrained Devices
- no date yet
- Bindings in Practice
- WoT JP CG - planning an event on "Security"
- estimated in a few months; working on program cmte
- thinking of having regular, small seminars
- Possible Digital Twins meetup topic (Kaz)
Liaisons
Will discuss as part of planning meeting after main call topics.
Collaborations
- Review Collaborations
Action Items
- Review Ongoing Action Items
TF Reports
- Scripting
- Security
- Discovery
- Marketing
- LinkedIn presence
- Twitter on main WoT page: https://www.w3.org/WoT/ - API issues...
- Use Cases
- PlugFest/Testing
- Thing Description/Binding Templates
- Architecture and Profiles
AOB?
For main call topics.
Planning Topics for the Next Charter
Continue planning discussing immediately after main call topics using "Testing" timeslot.
Find here the agenda and details of the previous planning meetings /2023_WoT_Next_Charter_Detailed_Planning
Agenda
- Overall structure
- Decide what we should do with the Protocol Binding based PRs in wot-charter-drafts repo
- TD Planning
- Issues
- Versioning Discussion: https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/1082
- Weekly web conference schedule
12 July 2023
Note: this will be an extended meeting, about 1h55m in total, with 45m for the Main call topics and 1h10m for Planning topics, going into the Testing call slot but using Main call meeting logistics (Zoom/IRC).
Chair: McCool (main call) / Sebastian/Koster (planning)
Regrets:
Scribe:
- Main: Ege
- Planning: Luca
Main Call Topics
Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts
- W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG
- Patent Policy FAQ - Q6
- Membership classes and fees
- New Members: none
- New IE request: none
Minutes
- July-05
- Members should review in advance of meeting.
- Will immediately call for resolution to publish.
- Will only open for review in the meeting if someone raises an issue.
- Proposed policy: https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1102
Quick Updates
- Any?
Schedule Changes
- Cancellations
- PLEASE CHECK W3C CALENDAR FOR UPDATES
- In general, wiki pages should *only* link to W3C Calendar and not replicate call-in information
- Zoom call notification - W3C Calendar has been updated
- PLEASE CHECK W3C CALENDAR FOR UPDATES
New WG Charter Review Status
- Proposed WoT WG Charter
- Strategy pipeline issue - Strategy team review complete
- Have begun W3M Review - ongoing, some comments; still in progress
- Usually takes 2 weeks (followed by the AC Review, which usually takes one month or so)
- Calendar has been updated but at this point we may need a small extension of the current charter
- To deal with OPC UA Binding and liaison some changes may be needed, but can be done separately - will discuss later during planning.
- PR (merged last week) to tweak start date, remove "details" link: https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/pull/117
- Kaz has generated a PR to handle the comments from the TiLT Team: https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/pull/118
- Let's quickly review it and merge the PR to move ahead!
TPAC 2023 planning
- TPAC 2023 official page
- WoT TPAC 2023 wiki
- Still need to clarify the agenda, including joint sessions
- Some input/meeting time suggestions from APA
- Still need to clarify the agenda, including joint sessions
Publications
- Schedule
- Proposed Recommendations
- Now published as of July 11!
- See also https://www.w3.org/news/2023/call-for-review-wot-architecture-1-1-thing-description-1-1-and-wot-discovery-are-w3c-proposed-recommendations/
- After publication, 1mo for AC review, then 1-2wks to 1mo for revision
- Expect earliest date for Recommendation transition is mid-August
- Notes
- Binding Templates and Scripting API - still pending
- Watch these URLs:
Testimonials for Press Release
- Could still use more, please talk to your AC representative
- Note they are now separate from implementation descriptions
- For Press Release will look for separate testimonials from management
- Need to aim for time of Recommendation transition, e.g. mid-August
- Example from 2020
- Would also be good to make statement about adoption, e.g. list of users
- Also need to define the narrative: why is this important?
- However, only testimonials from members can be used in press release
- Should clarify narrative before asking for testimonials so they can be aligned
- WG schedule - see dates for the above
- Have started negotiation with MarCom
- Need to justify a Press Release, it is NOT automatic
- What is new? Why is it important?
- Have started negotiation with MarCom
- See https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/425 for discussion
- Please comment on issue
- Will be discussed further in Marketing on July 18
Other Topics
Meetups
- WoT CG planning events
- Bindings in Practice
- estimated end-July
- Constrained Devices
- no date yet
- Bindings in Practice
- WoT JP CG - planning an event on "Security"
- estimated in a few months; working on program cmte
- thinking of having regular, small seminars
- Possible Digital Twins meetup topic (Kaz)
Liaisons
Will discuss as part of planning meeting after main call topics.
Collaborations
- Review Collaborations
Action Items
- Review Ongoing Action Items
TF Reports
- Scripting
- Security
- Discovery
- Marketing
- LinkedIn presence
- Twitter on main WoT page: https://www.w3.org/WoT/ - API issues...
- Use Cases
- PlugFest/Testing
- Thing Description/Binding Templates
- Architecture and Profiles
AOB?
For main call topics.
Planning Topics for the Next Charter
Continue planning discussing immediately after main call topics using "Testing" timeslot.
Find here the agenda and details of the previous planning meetings /2023_WoT_Next_Charter_Detailed_Planning
Agenda
- Overall structure
- Decide what we should do with the Protocol Binding based PRs in wot-charter-drafts repo
- TD Planning
- Issues
- Versioning Discussion: https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/1082
- Weekly web conference schedule
5 July 2023
Note: this will be an extended meeting, about 1h25 in total, with 40m for the Main call topics and 45m for Planning topics, going into the Testing call slot but using Main call meeting logistics (Zoom/IRC).
Chair: McCool (main call) / Sebastian (planning)
Regrets:
Scribe: Luca
Main Call Topics
Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts
- W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG
- Patent Policy FAQ - Q6
- Membership classes and fees
- New Members: none
- New IE request: none
Minutes
- June-28
- Members should review in advance of meeting.
- Will immediately call for resolution to publish.
- Will only open for review in the meeting if someone raises an issue.
- Proposed policy: https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1102
Quick Updates
- Any?
Schedule Changes
- Cancellations
- PLEASE CHECK W3C CALENDAR FOR UPDATES
- In general, wiki pages should *only* link to W3C Calendar and not replicate call-in information
- Zoom call notification - W3C Calendar has been updated
- PLEASE CHECK W3C CALENDAR FOR UPDATES
New WG Charter Review Status
- Proposed WoT WG Charter
- Strategy pipeline issue - Strategy team review complete
- Have begun W3M Review - ongoing, some comments
- Usually takes 2 weeks (followed by the AC Review, which usually takes one month or so)
- Calendar has been updated but at this point we may need a small extension of the current charter
- To deal with OPC UA Binding and liaison some changes may be needed, but can be done separately - will discuss later during planning.
- PR to tweak start date, remove "details" link: https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/pull/117
TPAC 2023 planning
- TPAC 2023 official page
- WoT TPAC 2023 wiki
- Still need to clarify the agenda, including joint sessions
Publications
- Schedule
- Proposed Recommendations
- Architecture 1.1, Thing Description 1.1, and Discovery all now in "Awaiting Publication" state
- See https://github.com/w3c/transitions/issues
- Watch these URLs; still all in "Candidate Recommendation Snapshot" status:
- After publication, 1mo for AC review, then 1-2wks to 1mo for revision
- Expect earliest date for Recommendation transition is mid-August
- Notes
- Binding Templates and Scripting API
- Watch these URLs:
- Kaz still working on publication process for the above.
Testimonials for Press Release
- Could still use more, please talk to your AC representative
- Note they are now separate from implementation descriptions
- For Press Release will look for separate testimonials from management
- Need to aim for time of Recommendation transition, e.g. mid-August
- Example from 2020
- Would also be good to make statement about adoption, e.g. list of users
- Also need to define the narrative: why is this important?
- However, only testimonials from members can be used in press release
- WG schedule - see dates for the above
- Have started negotiation with MarCom
- Need to justify a Press Release, it is NOT automatic
- What is new? Why is it important?
- Have started negotiation with MarCom
Other Topics
Meetups
- WoT CG planning an event on "Bindings in Practice"
- estimated end-July
- WoT JP CG - planning an event on "Security"
- estimated in a few months
- thinking of having regular, small seminars
Liaisons
Will discuss as part of planning meeting after main call topics.
Collaborations
- Review Collaborations
Action Items
- Review Ongoing Action Items
TF Reports
- Scripting
- Security
- Discovery
- Marketing
- LinkedIn presence
- Use Cases
- PlugFest/Testing
- Thing Description/Binding Templates
- Architecture and Profiles
AOB?
For main call topics.
Planning Topics for the Net Charter
Continue planning discussing immediately after main call topics using "Testing" timeslot.
Approval of the planning meeting minutes
- No comments so far, so should be approved
Agenda
28 June 2023
Chair: McCool
Regrets: Sebastian, Ege (?)
Scribe: Koster
Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts
- W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG
- Patent Policy FAQ - Q6
- Membership classes and fees
- New Members: none
- New IE request: none
Minutes
- June-21 (review the main call part)
Quick Updates
- Any?
Schedule Changes
- Cancellations
- Security next week cancelled - conflict with OPC UA meeting
- PLEASE CHECK W3C CALENDAR FOR UPDATES
- In general, wiki pages should *only* link to W3C Calendar and not replicate call-in information
Zoom call notification - W3C Calendar has been updated
New WG Charter Review Status
- Proposed WoT WG Charter
- Strategy pipeline issue
- Kaz to report out on result of W3C Strategy Team Meeting
- got approval for W3M Review, which usually takes 2 weeks (followed by the AC Review, which usually takes one month or so)
TPAC 2023 planning
- TPAC 2023 official page
- WoT TPAC 2023 wiki
- Still need to clarify the agenda, including joint sessions
Publications
- Schedule
- Proposed Recommendations
- Architecture 1.1, Thing Description 1.1, and Discovery all now in "Awaiting Publication" state
- See https://github.com/w3c/transitions/issues
- Kaz will work on the actual publication, should be done soon
- After publication, 1mo for AC review, then 1-2wks to 1mo for revision
- Expect earliest date for Recommendation transition is mid-August
- Notes
- Binding Templates and Scripting API
- Kaz is also working on these, should be done soon
Planning - Current Charter
- Testimonials
- Could still use more, please talk to your AC representative
- Note they are now separate from implementation descriptions
- For Press Release will look for separate testimonials from management
- Need to aim for time of Recommendation transition, e.g. mid-August
- Example from 2020
- Would also be good to make statement about adoption, e.g. list of users
- Also need to define the narrative: why is this important?
- However, only testimonials from members can be used in press release
- WG schedule - see dates for the above
- Should probably start negotiation with Marcom and narrative NOW
Planning - Next Charter
- Summary of progress last week
- Minutes
- To do
- PRs related to Profile: https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/labels/Detailed%20Work%20Items against https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/blob/main/wot-wg-2023-details.html
- Will handle in TD call (next week)
- Once merged, will move details to planning/details.md, update links
- Capture presentations
- Either export as PDF and make PRs against planning directory or make an MD file with a link to presentations from this directory (e.g. if presentation under "PRESENTATIONS")
- Fix links from draft charter to "details" document after it is moved
- Discuss work process and schedule
- Task Forces
- Who leads what TF?
- What is the policy for selecting editors?
- What is our TF schedule?
- Clarify other policies (see PRs above for process)
- PRs related to Profile: https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/labels/Detailed%20Work%20Items against https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/blob/main/wot-wg-2023-details.html
Meetups
- Binding Meetup
- JP Meetup by WoT-JP CG
- Schedule under discussion
- two more meetings with IPA DADC (Takenaka) and NHK being planned for later this year
- Possible Global Meetup?
Liaisons
- Review Liaisons
- OPC UA
- OPC UA Conference last week, presentations by Sebastian and Erich
- Joint call (with chairs) planned for Monday
Collaborations
- Review Collaborations
Action Items
- Review Ongoing Action Items
TF Reports
- Scripting
- Security
- Discovery
- Marketing
- LinkedIn presence
- Use Cases
- PlugFest/Testing
- Thing Description/Binding Templates
- Architecture and Profiles
AOB?
21 June 2023
Chair: McCool
Scribe: Cristiano
- Minutes
- Quick updates
- W3C web page redesigned
- announcement to chair's list
- some marketing followup maybe needed, e.g. logo updates, etc.
- TPAC Registration
- https://www.w3.org/2023/09/TPAC/ 11-15 Sept
- Deadlines: July 15 early bird, August 31 standard, after 3x
- W3C web page redesigned
- Progress check
- PR transition issues
- Bindings WD publication
- AOB
7 June 2023
Chair: McCool
Regrets: Sebastian
Scribe: Daniel
Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts
- W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG
- Patent Policy FAQ - Q6
- Membership classes and fees
- New Members: none
- New IE request: none
Minutes
Quick Updates
- Cancellations
- Switching the teleconf system from WebEx to Zoom
- Kaz got OK for the proposed Web-based Digital Twins IG during the Strategy meeting on May 30.
- Kaz will generate an updated draft Charter based on the current draft Charter.
Schedule Changes
- TD call changes => continue to use the current TD slot on Wednesday during the current Charter period (until the end of July)
- Chair call changes => tentatively using the Use Cases slot on Tuesday
- Dial-in information on the TF wiki pages is out-of-date. => To be discussed next time, because we need to concentrate on the Proposed REC publication and the Next Charter Planning Meeting.
- Question: How to link the *new* Zoom credentials?
- opt 1: Visit the Calendar page and search for the target call on the page
- opt 2: send dedicated emails for each TF one by one like the previous email notification
- opt 3: any other ideas?
- Question: How to link the *new* Zoom credentials?
WG Charter review status
- Proposed WoT WG Charter
- Strategy pipeline issue
- Still waiting for the review by the Privacy group.
- Also need to clarify the roles of the proposed three co-Chairs.
- Kaz will talk about the next step during the next Strategy meeting on June 13.
TPAC 2023 planning
- TPAC 2023 official page
- WoT TPAC 2023 wiki
- (Member-only) TPAC 2023 Group Meeting Questionnaire finalized
- Meetings afternoon on Thursday (Sep 14) and Friday (Sep 15): schedule confirmed
- need to clarify the agenda
- potential joint sessions: JSON-LD, Spatial Data, Privacy, Accessibility, Media and Entertainment
- requests: Web Agents, LBD, Digital Twin
Publications
- Schedule
- Proposed Recommendation Transition
- Architecture
- Need to discuss these PRs:
- Proposed resolution: Proceed with transition to Proposed Recommendation status for Web of Things (WoT) Architecture 1.1 based on the current Editors' draft and Implementation Report at https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture
- Discovery
- Proposed resolution: Proceed with transition to Proposed Recommendation status for Web of Things (WoT) Discovery based on the current Editors' draft and Implementation Report at https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery
- Thing Description
- Proposed resolution: Proceed with transition to Proposed Recommendation status for Web of Things (WoT) Thing Description 1.1 based on the current Editors' draft and Implementation Report at https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description
- Architecture
Planning - Current Charter
- Testimonials
- Could still use more, please talk to your AC representative
- Note they are now separate from implementation descriptions
- For Press Release will look for separate testimonials from management
- Example from 2020
- Would also be good to make statement about adoption, e.g. list of users
- Also need to define the narrative: why is this important?
- However, only testimonials from members can be used in press release
- Need to clarify the deadline on the WG schedule - between PR and REC; need 1mo for W3M to review
- Should probably start negotiation with Marcom and narrative NOW
Planning - Next Charter
- Have a number of PRs still here: https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/labels/Detailed%20Work%20Items against https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/blob/main/wot-wg-2023-details.html
- Where and how should we organize the detailed work plan for the next charter?
- We also need a schedule
- https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1088 - Propose June 19-23, 2023, 8-10am Eastern M/T/W/Th
- Doodle to identify the time slots
- /2023_WoT_Next_Charter_Detailed_Planning
- There is a link in the draft charter to the above document we want to avoid breaking...
- Task Forces
- Who leads what TF?
- What is the policy for selecting editors?
- What is our TF schedule?
- Wide Review Feedback
- Profiles
- Input from Testfest and Internationalization and TAG
- Potential TAG meeting - Monday, June 19? June 26 better for Kaz
- Profiles
- Meetups
- Binding Meetup
- JP Meetup by WoT-JP CG
- Schedule under discussion
- two more meetings with IPA DADC (Takenaka) and NHK being planned for later this year
- Possible Global Meetup?
Review Liaisons
- should be discussed as part of the new WG Charter topic.
- OPC UA
- Now discussing next steps with OPC UA execs and W3M
- Tech requirements: https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/liaisons/opcf/tech_reqs.md
- Need another DTDL meeting
- Post-TPAC due to Erich's availability
Review Collaborations
- Anything?
Review Ongoing Action Items
TF Reports
- Scripting
- Security
- Discovery
- Marketing
- LinkedIn presence
- Use Cases
- PlugFest/Testing
- Thing Description/Binding Templates
- Architecture and Profiles
AOB?
31 May 2023
Chair: McCool
Regrets: Sebastian
Scribe: Ege
Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts
- W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG
- Patent Policy FAQ - Q6
- Membership classes and fees
- New Members: none
- New IE request: none
Minutes
Quick Updates
- Cancellations
- Switching the teleconf system from WebEx to Zoom
- PLEASE CHECK W3C CALENDAR FOR UPDATES
Schedule Changes
- TD call changes
- Chair call changes
WG Charter review status
- Proposed WoT WG Charter
- Strategy pipeline issue
- Still waiting for the review by the Privacy group.
- Also need to clarify the roles of the proposed three co-Chairs.
- Kaz will talk about the next step during the next Strategy meeting on June 13.
TPAC 2023 planning
- TPAC 2023 official page
- WoT TPAC 2023 wiki
- (Member-only) TPAC 2023 Group Meeting Questionnaire finalized
- Meetings afternoon on Thursday (Sep 14) and Friday (Sep 15): schedule confirmed
- need to clarify the agenda
- potential joint sessions: JSON-LD, Spatial Data, Privacy, Accessibility, Media and Entertainment
- requests: Web Agents
Planning
- For the current Charter period
- Publication schedule
- Milestones calculator
- publication schedule
- PR Draft Finalization: Outstanding PRs
- Architecture
- Uplevel Profile description
- Accessibility Considerations
- Proposal: Merge the above PRs into the Proposed Recommendation draft
- Discovery
- Now working on updating Implementation Report
- Thing Description
- Will discuss in TD call
- Architecture
- Testimonials
- Could still use more, please talk to your AC representative
- Note they are now separate from implementation descriptions
- For Press Release will look for separate testimonials from management
- Example from 2020
- Would also be good to make statement about adoption, e.g. list of users
- Also need to define the narrative: why is this important?
- However, only testimonials from members can be used in press release
- Need to clarify the deadline on the WG schedule - between PR and REC; need 1mo for W3M to review
- Should probably start negotiation with Marcom and narrative NOW
- Publication schedule
- For the next Charter period
- Detailed work item planning for the next Charter
- Have a number of PRs still here: https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/labels/Detailed%20Work%20Items against https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/blob/main/wot-wg-2023-details.html
- Where and how should we organize the detailed work plan for the next charter?
- We also need a schedule
- https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1088 - Propose June 19-23, 2023
- /2023_WoT_Next_Charter_Detailed_Planning
- There is a link in the draft charter to the above document we want to avoid breaking...
- How to deal with TFs led by Michael Lagally (Architecture, Profile and Use Cases)?
- Tentatively led by McCool, but what would be the mechanism for the next Charter period?
- Note there is input in the Testfest and review feedback from Internationalization on Profiles to be dealt with
- Let's discuss when to resume Profile calls in detailed planning meeting
- Binding Meetup
- JP Meetup by WoT-JP CG
- two more meetings with IPA DADC (Takenaka) and NHK being planned for later this year
- What about a possible Global Meetup?
- JP Meetup by WoT-JP CG
- Tentatively led by McCool, but what would be the mechanism for the next Charter period?
- Detailed work item planning for the next Charter
Review Liaisons
- should be discussed as part of the new WG Charter topic.
- OPC UA
- Now discussing next steps with OPC UA execs and W3M
- Tech requirements: https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/liaisons/opcf/tech_reqs.md
- Need another DTDL meeting
- Post-TPAC due to Erich's availability
Review Collaborations
- Anything?
Review Ongoing Action Items
TF Reports
- Scripting
- Security
- Discovery
- Marketing
- Use Cases
- PlugFest/Testing
- Thing Description/Binding Templates
- Architecture and Profiles
AOB?
24 May 2023
Chair: McCool
Regrets: Sebastian
Scribe: Luca
- Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts
- W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG
- Patent Policy FAQ - Q6
- Membership classes and fees
- New Member: none
- New IE request: none
- Minutes
- Quick updates
- Cancellations
- Switching the teleconf system from WebEx to Zoom
- Note that the MIT WebEx will be expired by the end of June. (Remember the message sent to the Chairs list.)
- PROPOSE WE START ZOOM CALLS NEXT WEEK FROM MONDAY MAY 29
- WG Charter review status
- Proposed WoT WG Charter
- Strategy pipeline issue
- Still waiting for the review by the Privacy group.
- Also need to clarify the roles of the proposed three co-Chairs.
- Kaz will talk about the next step during the Strategy meeting on May 30.
- TPAC 2023 planning
- TPAC 2023 official page
- WoT TPAC 2023 wiki
- (Member-only) TPAC 2023 Group Meeting Questionnaire finalized
- We'll meet in the aftenoon on Thursday (Sep 14) and Friday (Sep 15)
- need to clarify the agenda
- potential joint sessions: JSON-LD, Spatial Data, Privacy, Accessibility, Media and Entertainment
- Planning
- Testfest minutes
- For the current Charter period
- Publication schedule
- Milestones calculator
- publication schedule
- PR Draft Finalization: Outstanding PRs
- Architecture
- Discovery
- Thing Description
- Will discuss in TD call
- Testimonials
- Could still use more, please talk to your AC representative
- Note they are now separate from implementation descriptions
- For Press Release will look for separate testimonials from management
- Example from 2020
- Would also be good to make statement about adoption, e.g. list of users
- Also need to define the narrative: why is this important?
- However, only testimonials from members can be used in press release
- Need to clarify the deadline on the WG schedule - between PR and REC; need 1mo for W3M to review
- Should probably start negotiation with Marcom and narrative NOW
- Societal Impact Questionnaire
- https://w3ctag.github.io/societal-impact-questionnaire/
- Has been submitted
- Was actually not required - Qs was still a draft
- Publication schedule
- For the next Charter period
- Detailed work item planning for the next Charter
- Have a number of PRs still here: https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/labels/Detailed%20Work%20Items against https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/blob/main/wot-wg-2023-details.html
- Where and how should we organize the detailed work plan for the next charter?
- We also need a schedule
- https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1088 - Propose June 19-23, 2023
- /2023_WoT_Next_Charter_Detailed_Planning
- There is a link in the draft charter to the above document we want to avoid breaking...
- How to deal with TFs led by Michael Lagally (Architecture, Profile and Use Cases)?
- Tentatively led by McCool, but what would be the mechanism for the next Charter period?
- Note there is input in the Testfest and review feedback from Internationalization on Profiles to be dealt with
- Will resume Profile calls from next week
- Binding Meetup
- JP Meetup by WoT-JP CG
- two more meetings with IPA DADC (Takenaka) and NHK to be organized after the Test Dev Meeting
- What about a possible Global Meetup?
- JP Meetup by WoT-JP CG
- Tentatively led by McCool, but what would be the mechanism for the next Charter period?
- Detailed work item planning for the next Charter
- Review Liaisons - should be discussed as part of the new WG Charter topic.
- OPC UA
- Now discussing next steps with OPC UA execs and W3M
- Tech requirements: https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/liaisons/opcf/tech_reqs.md
- Need another DTDL meeting
- Post-TPAC due to Erich's availability
- OPC UA
- Review Collaborations
- Anything?
- Review Ongoing Action Items
- TF Reports
- AOB?
17 May 2023
Chair: McCool/Sebastian
Regrets: any?
Scribe: Sebastian
- Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts
- W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG
- Patent Policy FAQ - Q6
- Membership classes and fees
- New Member: none
- New IE request: Ahmed Ali from 1&1 Mail & Media Development & Technology GmbH
- Minutes
- Quick updates
- Cancellations
- Quick debrief from the AC Meeting 2023 in Sophia-Antipolis (Member-only)
- WG Charter review status
- Proposed WoT WG Charter
- Strategy pipeline issue
- got a comment from APA WG (Accessibility) on onbording
- Kaz will talk about the next step during the Strategy meeting on May 23.
- TPAC 2023 planning
- TPAC 2023 page
- WoT TPAC 2023 wiki
- need to check the attendance and expected joint meetings
- (Member-only) TPAC 2023 Group Meeting Questionnaire
- deadline extended till May 22 but initial response has been already submitted
- Planning
- For the current Charter period
- Publication schedule
- Milestones calculator
- publication schedule
- Updates to schedule
- Note May 17 deadline for testing contributions (& ripple effect), change to start date of new charter to 1 July
- Proposed Planning Directory
- Testfest results
- Minutes
- results on the logistics page
- Proposed Resolution: Conclude testing and proceed with preparation of the PR draft for TD 1.1.
- Proposed Resolution: Conclude testing and proceed with preparation of the PR draft for Architecture 1.1.
- Proposed Resolution: Conclude testing and proceed with preparation of the PR draft for Discovery.
- Testimonials
- Could still use more, please talk to your AC representative
- Note they are now separate from implementation descriptions
- For Press Release will look for separate testimonials from management
- Example from 2020
- Would also be good to make statement about adoption, e.g. list of users
- Also need to define the narrative: why is this important?
- However, only testimonials from members can be used in press release
- Need to clarify the deadline on the WG schedule - between PR and REC; need 1mo for W3M to review
- Should probably start negotiation with Marcom and narrative NOW
- Societal Impact Questionnaire
- https://w3ctag.github.io/societal-impact-questionnaire/
- McCool has created a draft, please review and comment on the PR, will update as appropriate
- Will just do one for all of WoT... PR is against Arch repo where other similar documents are
- Need to clarify the deadline on the WG schedule
- Given we've got just a few responses, it would make sense to have a debriefing during the main call.
- Publication schedule
- For the next Charter period
- Detailed work item planning for the next Charter
- Have a number of PRs still here: https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/labels/Detailed%20Work%20Items against https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/blob/main/wot-wg-2023-details.html
- Where and how should we organize the detailed work plan for the next charter?
- We also need a schedule
- https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1088 - Propose June 19-23, 2023
- /2023_WoT_Next_Charter_Detailed_Planning
- There is a link in the draft charter to the above document we want to avoid breaking...
- How to deal with TFs led by Michael Lagally (Architecture, Profile and Use Cases)?
- Tentatively led by McCool, but what would be the mechanism for the next Charter period?
- Note there is input in the Testfest and review feedback from Internationalization on Profiles to be dealt with
- Will resume Profile calls from next week
- Binding Meetup
- JP Meetup by WoT-JP CG
- two more meetings with IPA DADC (Takenaka) and NHK to be organized after the Test Dev Meeting
- What about a possible Global Meetup?
- JP Meetup by WoT-JP CG
- Tentatively led by McCool, but what would be the mechanism for the next Charter period?
- Detailed work item planning for the next Charter
- For the current Charter period
- Review Liaisons - should be discussed as part of the new WG Charter topic.
- OPC UA
- Now discussing next steps with OPC UA execs and W3M
- Tech requirements: https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/liaisons/opcf/tech_reqs.md
- Need another DTDL meeting
- Post-TPAC due to Erich's availability
- OPC UA
- Review Collaborations
- Anything?
- Review Ongoing Action Items
- TF Reports
- AOB?
26 April 2023
Chair: Sebastian/McCool
Regrets: any?
Scribe: Cristiano
- Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts
- W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG
- Patent Policy FAQ - Q6
- Membership classes and fees
- New Member: none
- New IE request: none
- Minutes
- Quick updates
- New WG Charter review status
- Proposed WoT WG Charter
- Strategy pipeline issue - Horizontal review ongoing
- Small fix to remove links to template: https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/pull/116
- Scripting API Task-force would like to discuss the possibility of normative Note again
- Proposed WoT WG Charter
- TPAC 2023 planning
- TPAC 2023 page
- (Member-only) TPAC 2023 Group Meeting Questionnaire - deadline is May 8
- WoT TPAC 2023 wiki
- Would be good to get it done before April 28 due to Golden Week
- Planning
- For the current Charter period
- Publication schedule
- Milestones calculator
- publication schedule
- Updates to schedule
- Note May 10 deadline for implementation report contributions
- Proposed Planning Directory
- Testing
- Wrapping up the Dev Meetings
- Will revisit at-risk statuses after Testfest
- Slides explaining TD At-Risk Items
- Slides explaining Architecture At-Risk Items
- Slides explaining Discovery At-Risk Items
- Testfest ongoing this week
- Testfest logistics (Apr 25-27 - 1h meeting a day)
-
Tuesday, April 25 at 8am Eastern (use cases call) - Wednesday, April 26 at 9am Eastern (testing call)
- Thursday, April 27 at 6am Eastern (arch call)
-
- Testfest logistics (Apr 25-27 - 1h meeting a day)
- Wrapping up the Dev Meetings
- Testimonials
- Could still use more, please talk to your AC representative
- Note they are now separate from implementation descriptions
- For Press Release will look for separate testimonials from management
- Example from 2020
- Would also be good to make statement about adoption, e.g. list of users
- Also need to define the narrative: why is this important?
- However, only testimonials from members can be used in press release
- Need to clarify the deadline on the WG schedule - between PR and REC; need 1mo for W3M to review
- Should probably start negotiation with Marcom and narrative NOW
- Societal Impact Questionnaire
- https://w3ctag.github.io/societal-impact-questionnaire/
- McCool has created a draft, please review and comment on the PR, will update as appropriate
- Will just do one for all of WoT... PR is against Arch repo where other similar documents are
- Need to clarify the deadline on the WG schedule
- Given we've got just a few responses, it would make sense to have a debriefing during the main call.
- Publication schedule
- For the next Charter period
- Detailed work item planning for the next Charter
- Have a number of PRs still here: https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/labels/Detailed%20Work%20Items against https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/blob/main/wot-wg-2023-details.html
- Where and how should we organize the detailed work plan for the next charter?
- We also need a schedule
- https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1088 - Propose June 19-23, 2023
- There is a link the above charter to the above document we want to avoid breaking...
- How to deal with TFs led by Michael Lagally (Architecture, Profile and Use Cases)?
- Tentatively led by McCool, but what would be the mechanism for the next Charter period?
- Note there is input in the Testfest and review feedback from Internationalization on Profiles to be dealt with
- Will resume Profile calls from next week
- Binding Meetup
- JP Meetup by WoT-JP CG
- two more meetings with IPA DADC (Takenaka) and NHK to be organized after the Test Dev Meeting
- What about a possible Global Meetup?
- JP Meetup by WoT-JP CG
- Tentatively led by McCool, but what would be the mechanism for the next Charter period?
- Detailed work item planning for the next Charter
- For the current Charter period
- Review Liaisons - should be discussed as part of the new WG Charter topic.
- OPC UA
- Now discussing next steps with OPC UA execs and W3M
- Tech requirements: https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/liaisons/opcf/tech_reqs.md
- Need another DTDL meeting
- Post-TPAC due to Erich's availability
- OPC UA
- Review Collaborations
- Anything?
- Review Ongoing Action Items
- TF Reports
- AOB?
19 April 2023
Chair: McCool
Regrets: Sebastian, Ege
Scribe: Lagally
- Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts
- W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG
- Patent Policy FAQ - Q6
- Membership classes and fees
- New Member: none
- New IE request: none
- Minutes
- Quick updates
- Announcement from Michael Lagally
- Cancellations
- Scripting API Task-force resolution to publish update (with pending editorial PR469)
- TPAC 2023 planning
- (Member-only) TPAC 2023 Group Meeting Questionnaire - deadline is May 8
- WoT TPAC 2023 wiki
- Would be good to get it done before April 28 due to Golden Week
- Use Cases discussion for the current Charter period to be suspended
- Policy to handle Use Case proposals from WG/IG participants, related W3C groups and external SDOs to be discussed as part of the Planning topic later.
- any other topics?
- WG Charter
- Proposed WoT WG Charter
- Strategy pipeline issue - Horizontal review ongoing
- Testimonials
- Need to start collecting these, note they are now separate from implementation descriptions
- Who/For What/Until When/How?
- Societal Impact Questionnaire
- https://w3ctag.github.io/societal-impact-questionnaire/
- McCool has created a draft, please review and comment on the PR, will update as appropriate
- Will just do one for all of WoT... PR is against Arch repo where other similar documents are
- Proposed WoT WG Charter
- Planning
- Specs for the current Charter period
- Publication schedule
- Testing
- Dev Meeting
- Dev Meeting logistics
- First meeting for TD
- done on March 29 during the second hour of the TD slot
- Slides explaining TD At-Risk Items
- Second meeting for Architecture
- done on April 12 (Second hour of TD call slot)
- Slides explaining Architecture At-Risk Items
- Third meeting for Discovery
- done on April 17 (Discovery call slot)
- Slides explaining Discovery At-Risk Items
- Testfest
- Testfest logistics (Apr 25-27 - 1h meeting a day)
- Tuesday, April 25 at 10am Eastern (after use cases call)
- Wednesday, April 26 at 9am Eastern (testing call)
- Thursday, April 27 at 9am Eastern (after arch call)
- Testfest logistics (Apr 25-27 - 1h meeting a day)
- Dev Meeting
- Specs for the next Charter period
- Detailed work item planning for the next Charter
- Have a number of PRs still here: https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/labels/Detailed%20Work%20Items against https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/blob/main/wot-wg-2023-details.html
- Where and how should we organize the detailed work plan for the next charter?
- We also need a schedule
- There is a link the above charter to the above document we want to avoid breaking...
- Binding Meetup
- JP Meetup by WoT-JP CG
- two more meetings with IPA DADC (Takenaka) and NHK to be organized after the Test Dev Meeting
- What about a possible Global Meetup?
- JP Meetup by WoT-JP CG
- Detailed work item planning for the next Charter
- Specs for the current Charter period
- Review Liaisons - should be discussed as part of the new WG Charter topic.
- OPC UA
- Now discussing next steps with OPC UA execs and W3M
- Tech requirements: https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/liaisons/opcf/tech_reqs.md
- Need another DTDL meeting
- Post-TPAC due to Erich's availability
- OPC UA
- Review Collaborations
- Anything?
- Review Ongoing Action Items
- TF Reports
- AOB?
12 April 2023
Chair: Sebastian/McCool
Regrets: any?
Scribe: McCool
- Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts
- W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG
- Patent Policy FAQ - Q6
- Membership classes and fees
- New Member: Salvador González Gerpe from Universidad Politécnica de Madrid (UPM)
- New IE request: none
- Minutes
- Quick updates
- Cancellations
- May 8 deadline for TPAC qs: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2023JanMar/0078.html (Member-only)
- Kaz has conflicts with the MEIG meeting on Monday/Tuesday (probably afternoons)
- Need: number of people, days/times, joint meetings, other conflicts, /2023_WoT_TPAC_Agenda (est. total hours)
- Pre-TPAC F2F? Pre-TPAC vF2F? Post-TPAC?
- Demos/breakouts handled separately
- any other topics?
- WG Charter
- Proposed WoT WG Charter
- Strategy pipeline issue - Horizontal review requested
- finalizing the minutes from the /2022_Next_Charter meetings - Resolution to publish today on April 12
- Testimonials
- Need to start collecting these, note they are now separate from implementation descriptions
- Who/For What/Until When/How?
- Societal Impact Questionnaire
- https://w3ctag.github.io/societal-impact-questionnaire/
- McCool has created a draft, please review and comment on the PR, will update as appropriate
- Will just do one for all of WoT... PR is against Arch repo where other similar documents are
- Proposed WoT WG Charter
- Planning
- Test Dev Meeting
- Draft Slides: WG/IG Members Invited Experts
- First meeting for TD
- done on March 29 during the second hour of the TD slot
- how to handle the recorded video from the call on March 29?
- also how to record the video from the upcoming Dev Meetings? - Kaz suggests we use Zoom instead of WebEx.
- how to handle the recorded video?
- Second meeting for Architecture
- Global meeting: April 12 (Second hour of TD call slot)
- JP meeting: to be decided
- Third meeting for Discovery
- Global meeting: April 17 (Discovery call slot)
- JP meeting: to be decided
- Testfest during the week of April 24
- 3 days - 1h meeting a day
- Tuesday, April 25 at 10am Eastern (after use cases call)
- Wednesday, April 26 at 9am Eastern (testing call)
- Thursday, April 27 at 9am Eastern (after arch call)
- Binding Meetup
- JP Meetup by WoT-JP CG
- two more meetings with IPA DADC (Takenaka) and NHK to be organized after the Test Dev Meeting
- What about a possible Global Meetup?
- JP Meetup by WoT-JP CG
- Detailed work item planning
- Have a number of PRs still here: https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/labels/Detailed%20Work%20Items against https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/blob/main/wot-wg-2023-details.html
- Where and how should we organize the detailed work plan for the next charter?
- We also need a schedule
- There is a link the above charter to the above document we want to avoid breaking...
- Test Dev Meeting
- Publications progress check
- Review Liaisons - should be discussed as part of the new WG Charter topic.
- OPC UA
- Now discussing next steps with OPC UA execs and W3M
- Tech requirements: https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/liaisons/opcf/tech_reqs.md
- Need another DTDL meeting
- Post-TPAC due to Erich's availability
- OPC UA
- Review Collaborations
- Anything?
- Review Ongoing Action Items
- TF Reports
- AOB?
5 April 2023
Chair: McCool
Regrets: any?
Scribe: Ege
- Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts
- W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG
- Patent Policy FAQ - Q6
- Membership classes and fees
- New Member: none
- New IE request: none
- Minutes
- Quick updates
- Cancellations
- Workshop in Q2 2024?
- Call for Review of WoT Scripting API note publication
- May 8 deadline for TPAC qs: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2023JanMar/0078.html (Member-only)
- any other topics?
- Draft proposed WG Charter
- need a resolution to send for AC review
- Proposed Resolution: After merging PR 113 at https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/pull/113 regarding the history table, begin the AC review process for the resulting proposed 2023 WG charter at https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/blob/main/wot-wg-2023-draft.html with the intention of establishing the next charter for the WoT WG.
- Note: need to revert the history table. See also: https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/issues/112 and https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/pull/113
- how to finalize the minutes from the Charter Meetings?
- list of all the minutes from the Charter meetings
- Proposal: Call for Resolution to publish on April 12 main call.
- In the meantime any corrections should be sent by email to Kaz.
- We will not be reviewing these in detail in the main call.
- Testimonials
- Need to start collecting these, note they are now separate from implementation descriptions
- Who/For What/Until When/How?
- Societal Impact Questionnaire
- https://w3ctag.github.io/societal-impact-questionnaire/
- McCool has created a draft, please review and comment on the PR, will update as appropriate
- Will just do one for all of WoT... PR is against Arch repo where other similar documents are
- need a resolution to send for AC review
- Planning
- Detailed work item planning
- Have a number of PRs still here: https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/labels/Detailed%20Work%20Items against https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/blob/main/wot-wg-2023-details.html
- Where and how should we organize the detailed work plan for the next charter?
- We also need a schedule
- There is a link the above charter to the above document we want to avoid breaking...
- Test Dev Meeting
- Draft Slides: WG/IG Members Invited Experts
- Second meeting for Architecture
- Global meeting: April 12 (Second hour of TD call slot)
- JP meeting: to be decided
- Third meeting for Discovery
- Global meeting: April 17 (Discovery call slot)
- JP meeting: to be decided
- Testfest during the week of April 24
- 3 days - 1h meeting a day
- Tuesday, April 25 at 10am Eastern (after use cases call)
- Wednesday, April 26 at 9am Eastern (testing call)
- Thursday, April 27 at 9am Eastern (after arch call)
- Binding Meetup
- JP Meetup by WoT-JP CG
- two more meetings with IPA DADC (Takenaka) and NHK to be organized after the Test Dev Meeting
- What about a possible Global Meetup?
- JP Meetup by WoT-JP CG
- Detailed work item planning
- Publications progress check
- Review Liaisons - should be discussed as part of the new WG Charter topic.
- OPC UA
- Now discussing next steps with OPC UA execs and W3M
- Tech requirements: https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/liaisons/opcf/tech_reqs.md
- Need another DTDL meeting
- Post-TPAC due to Erich's availability
- OPC UA
- Review Collaborations
- Anything?
- Review Ongoing Action Items
- TF Reports
- AOB?
29 March 2023
Chair: McCool
Regrets: any?
Scribe: Koster
- Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts
- W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG
- Patent Policy FAQ - Q6
- Membership classes and fees
- New Member: none
- New IE request: none
- Minutes
- Quick updates
- any?
- Planning
- Test Dev Meeting
- First meeting for TD
- Global Meeting: second hour of TD slot - 3/29 15:00 UTC
- JP Meeting: 3/28 14:00 JST - done yesteday
- Second meeting for Architecture - to be decided
- Use Arch call Mar 30 to finalize Dev review material for Arch?
- Arch call cancelled March 30, reviews to be done offline
- Dev meetings for Arch on April 12? (Second hour of TD call slot)
- Third meeting for Discovery - to be decided
- Use Discovery calls Apr 3/10 to prep Dev review material for Discovery?
- Dev meetings for Discovery on April 17? (Discovery call slot)
- First meeting for TD
- Testfest during the week of April 3
- 3 days - 1h meeting a day
- Tuesday at 10am Eastern (after use cases call)
- Wed at 9am Eastern (testing call)
- Thursday at 9am Eastern (after arch call)
- Binding Meetup
- JP Meetup by WoT-JP CG
- two more meetings with IPA DADC (Takenaka) and NHK to be organized after the Test Dev Meeting
- What about a possible Global Meetup?
- JP Meetup by WoT-JP CG
- Test Dev Meeting
- Publications progress check
- WG Charter
- Draft proposed WG Charter
- How to proceed?
- need a resolution to send for AC review
- continue Charter Meetings... see Session 6, Day 2 agenda
- When can we make a resolution to send the draft WG Charter to the W3M/Wide review/AC review?
- what to be described by the Charter
- abstract description of each expected deliverable (including why it's necessary)
- relationship among deliverables
- policy on how to deal with contributions and liaisons, etc.
- we should update the details document, if we link it from the charter; don't necessarily have to finish policy docs if not linked
- Testimonials
- Need to start collecting these, note they are now separate from implementation descriptions
- Who/For What/Until When/How?
- Societal Impact Questionnaire
- https://w3ctag.github.io/societal-impact-questionnaire/
- McCool has created a draft, please review and comment on the PR, will update as appropriate
- Will just do one for all of WoT... PR is against Arch repo where other similar documents are
- Review Liaisons - should be discussed as part of the new WG Charter topic.
- OPC UA
- Now discussing next steps with OPC UA execs and W3M
- Tech requirements: https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/liaisons/opcf/tech_reqs.md
- Need another DTDL meeting
- Post-TPAC due to Erich's availability
- OPC UA
- Review Collaborations
- Anything?
- Review Ongoing Action Items
- TF Reports
- AOB?
22 March 2023
Chair: Sebastian
Regrets: McCool
Scribe: Cristiano
- Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts
- W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG
- Patent Policy FAQ - Q6
- Membership classes and fees
- New Member: none
- New IE request: none
- Minutes
- Quick updates
- Use Case policy discussion
- Policy for use case collection to be decided, e.g., how to get use cases from which industry how, and how to extract requirements from those industry-based use cases
- Use Case Requirements - Template - Geolocation PR
- Should be discussed during the Use Cases calls.
- Use Case policy discussion
- Planning
- Testing
- Testing Developer Meeting during the week of March 27 - Doodle
- Global Meeting:
- Reuse second hour of TD slot: 3/29 15:00 UTC
- Use Architecture call too?
- JP Meeting:
- 3/30 11:00 JST
- Note: Takenaka can't make March 30th, so should consider 3/28 13:00 JST as well.
- WoT-JP guys need clarification on what all the at-risk features really mean before the JP Meeting.
- Is 1h enough for both Arch and TD? What about Discovery?
- We may need to have additional Dev meetings...
- What order do we do them in? Material for TD is mostly ready, others not.
- Proposal (McCool):
- Use Arch call Mar 23 to finalize charter
- Use Dev meetings Mar 28/29 to review TD assertions
- Use Arch call Mar 30 to finalize Dev review material for Arch
- Use Discovery calls Apr 3/10 to prep Dev review material for Discovery
- Schedule additional Dev meetings for Arch and Discovery, maybe April 5 and April 12.
- Global Meeting:
- Testfest during the week of April 3
- 3 days - 1h meeting a day
- Tuesday at 10am Eastern (after use cases call)
- Wed at 9am Eastern (testing call)
- Thursday at 9am Eastern (after arch call)
- Testing Developer Meeting during the week of March 27 - Doodle
- Binding Meetup
- JP Meetup by WoT-JP CG
- two more meetings planned with IPA DADC and NHK to be organized
- What about a possible Global Meetup?
- JP Meetup by WoT-JP CG
- Testing
- Publications progress check
- WG Charter
- Draft proposed WG Charter
- How to proceed?
- need a resolution to send for AC review
- continue Charter Meetings... see Session 6, Day 2 agenda
- When can we make a resolution to send the draft WG Charter to the W3M/Wide review/AC review?
- what to be described by the Charter
- abstract description of each expected deliverable (including why it's necessary)
- relationship among deliverables
- policy on how to deal with contributions and liaisons, etc.
- we should update the details document, if we link it from the charter; don't necessarily have to finish policy docs if not linked
- Testimonials
- Need to start collecting these, note they are now separate from implementation descriptions
- Who/For What/Until When/How?
- Societal Impact Questionnaire
- https://w3ctag.github.io/societal-impact-questionnaire/
- McCool has created a draft, please review and comment on the PR, will update as appropriate
- Will just do one for all of WoT... PR is against Arch repo where other similar documents are
- Review Liaisons - should be discussed as part of the new WG Charter topic.
- OPC UA
- Now discussing next steps with OPC UA execs and W3M
- Tech requirements: https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/liaisons/opcf/tech_reqs.md
- Need another DTDL meeting
- Post-TPAC due to Erich's availability
- OPC UA
- Review Collaborations
- Anything?
- Review Ongoing Action Items
- TF Reports
- AOB?
15 March 2023
Chair: McCool
Regrets: any?
Scribe: Sebastian
- Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts
- W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG
- Patent Policy FAQ - Q6
- Membership classes and fees
- New Member: none
- New IE request: none
- Minutes - review skipped?
- Quick updates
- Use Cases call on March 14 cancelled due to DST change confusion - When to have the next call?
- Discussion:
- Policy for use case collection to be decided, e.g., how to get use cases from which industry how, and how to extract requirements from those industry-based use cases
- Use Case Requirements - Template - Geolocation PR
- Discussion:
- Cancellations and TF Meeting Schedule
- Use Cases call on March 14 cancelled due to DST change confusion - When to have the next call?
- Planning
- Testing
- Testfest during the week of March 20 - Doodle
- Current candidates
- Monday, 3/20 12:00 UTC (5:00 PDT, 9:00 ADT, 13:00 CET, 21:00 JST)
- Monday, 3/20 13:00 UTC (6:00 PDT, 10:00 ADT, 14:00 CET, 22:00 JST)
- Monday, 3/20 14:00 UTC (7:00 PDT, 11:00 ADT, 15:00 CET, 23:00 JST)
- Wednesday, 3/22 13:00 UTC (6:00 PDT, 10:00 ADT, 14:00 CET, 22:00 JST)
- Thursday, 3/23 13:00 UTC (6:00 PDT, 10:00 ADT, 14:00 CET, 22:00 JST)
- Thursday, 3/23 14:00 UTC (7:00 PDT, 11:00 ADT, 15:00 CET, 23:00 JST)
- Current candidates
- Testing Developer Meeting during the week of March 27 - Doodle
- Global Meeting candidates:
- 3/27 13:00 UTC (6:00 PDT, 10:00 ADT, 14:00 CET, 22:00 JST) w/o Toumura
- 3/28 12:00 UTC (5:00 PDT, 9:00 ADT, 13:00 CET, 21:00 JST) w/o Lagally
- 3/28 13:00 UTC (6:00 PDT, 10:00 ADT, 14:00 CET, 22:00 JST) w/o Lagally
- 3/29 01:00 UTC (18:00-1d PDT, 21:00-1d ADT, 02:00 CET, 10:00 JST) w/o Lagally
- 3/29 02:00 UTC (19:00-1d PDT, 22:00-1d ADT, 03:00 CET, 11:00 JST) w/o Lagally
- 3/29 13:00 UTC (6:00 PDT, 10:00 ADT, 14:00 CET, 22:00 JST) w/o Lagally
- 3/30 01:00 UTC (18:00-1d PDT, 21:00-1d ADT, 02:00 CET, 10:00 JST) w/o Lagally
- 3/30 02:00 UTC (19:00-1d PDT, 22:00-1d ADT, 03:00 CET, 11:00 JST) w/o Lagally
- 3/30 09:00 UTC (02:00 PDT, 05:00 ADT, 11:00 CET, 18:00 JST) w/o Koster
- 3/30 13:00 UTC (6:00 PDT, 10:00 ADT, 14:00 CET, 22:00 JST) w/o Lagally
- 3/30 14:00 UTC (7:00 PDT, 11:00 ADT, 15:00 CET, 23:00 JST) w/o Lagally
- JP Meeting candidates
- 3/28 13:00 JST
- 3/30 11:00 JST
- Global Meeting candidates:
- Testfest during the week of March 20 - Doodle
- Testing
- Binding Meetup
- JP Meetup by WoT-JP CG
- two more meetings planned with IPA DADC and NHK to be organized
- What about a possible Global Meetup?
- JP Meetup by WoT-JP CG
- Binding Meetup
- Publications progress check
- WG Charter
- Draft proposed WG Charter
- How to proceed?
- need a resolution to send for AC review
- continue Charter Meetings... see Session 6, Day 2 agenda
- When can we make a resolution to send the draft WG Charter to the W3M/Wide review/AC review?
- what to be described by the Charter
- abstract description of each expected deliverable (including why it's necessary)
- relationship among deliverables
- policy on how to deal with contributions and liaisons, etc.
- we should update the details document, if we link it from the charter; don't necessarily have to finish policy docs if not linked
- Testimonials
- Need to start collecting these, note they are now separate from implementation descriptions
- Who/For What/Until When/How?
- Societal Impact Questionnaire
- https://w3ctag.github.io/societal-impact-questionnaire/
- McCool will create draft, can be edited by others and submitted next week
- Will just do one for all of WoT... PR against Arch repo
- Review Liaisons - should be discussed as part of the new WG Charter topic.
- OPC UA
- Now discussing next steps with OPC UA execs and W3M
- Tech requirements: https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/liaisons/opcf/tech_reqs.md
- Need another DTDL meeting
- Post-TPAC due to Erich's availability
- OPC UA
- Review Collaborations
- Anything?
- Review Ongoing Action Items
- TF Reports
- AOB?
8 March 2023
Chair: McCool
Regrets: Sebastian
Scribe: Daniel
- Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts
- W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG
- Patent Policy FAQ - Q6
- Membership classes and fees
- New Member: none
- New IE request: none
- Minutes
- Quick updates
- Next Use Cases call on March 14
- Discussion:
- Policy for use case collection to be decided, e.g., how to get use cases from which industry how, and how to extract requirements from those industry-based use cases
- Use Case Requirements - Template - Geolocation PR
- Discussion:
- Cancellations and TF Meeting Schedule
- Next Use Cases call on March 14
- Planning
- Testing
- Developer Meeting - Doodle
- Another Testfest during the week of March 20 - Doodle
- Binding Meetup
- JP Meetup by WoT-JP CG
- held on Feb 27 with ECHONET
- two more meetings planned with IPA DADC and NHK
- What about a possible Global Meetup?
- JP Meetup by WoT-JP CG
- Testing
- Publications progress check
- WG Charter
- Draft proposed WG Charter
- Question: Should Scripting API be a REC Track spec?
- See also: Scripting minutes
- Question: Should Scripting API be a REC Track spec?
- Minutes from the Charter meetings
- Session 1
- 16 Jan 2023 - reviewed on Feb 1
- 17 Jan 2023 - reviewed on Feb 1
- 18 Jan 2023 - reviewed on Feb 1
- 19 Jan 2023 - reviewed on Feb 1
- Session 2
- Session 3
- Session 4
- Session 1
- How to proceed?
- Another meeting tomorrow on March 9, in place of Architecture?
- need a resolution to send for AC review
- When can we make a resolution to send the draft WG Charter to the W3M/Wide review/AC review?
- what to be described by the Charter
- abstract description of each expected deliverable (including why it's necessary)
- relationship among deliverables
- policy on how to deal with contributions and liaisons, etc.
- we should update the details document, if we link it from the charter; don't necessarily have to finish policy docs if not linked
- Another meeting tomorrow on March 9, in place of Architecture?
- Testimonials
- Need to start collecting these, note they are now separate from implementation descriptions
- Who/For What/Until When/How?
- Societal Impact Questionnaire
- https://w3ctag.github.io/societal-impact-questionnaire/
- McCool will create draft, can be edited by others and submitted next week
- Will just do one for all of WoT... PR against Arch repo
- Draft proposed WG Charter
- Review Liaisons - should be discussed as part of the new WG Charter topic.
- OPC UA
- Now discussing next steps with OPC UA execs and W3M
- Tech requirements: https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/liaisons/opcf/tech_reqs.md
- Need another DTDL meeting
- Post-TPAC due to Erich's availability
- OPC UA
- Review Collaborations
- Anything?
- Review Ongoing Action Items
- TF Reports
- AOB?
1 March 2023
Used for charter discussion.
22 February 2023
Chair: McCool/Sebastian
Regrets: any?
Scribe: Ege
- Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts
- W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG
- Patent Policy FAQ - Q6
- Membership classes and fees
- New Member: none
- New IE request: none
- Minutes
- Quick updates
- Next Use Cases call on Feb 28?
- Note: Use Cases call will be held every Tuesday for a while.
- Discussion:
- Policy for use case collection to be decided, e.g., how to get use cases from which industry how, and how to extract requirements from those industry-based use cases
- Use Case Requirements - Template - Geolocation PR
- Marketing call on Feb 28 to discuss the policy on collaboration with CGs
- Cancellations and TF Meeting Schedule
- Next Use Cases call on Feb 28?
- Planning
- Testing
- Developer Meeting
- Another Testfest in March?
- Binding Meetup
- JP Meetup by WoT-JP CG on Feb 27
- What about a possible Global Meetup?
- Testing
- Publications progress check
- WG Charter
- Minutes from the Charter meetings - https://github.com/w3c/wot-charter-drafts/pull/12
- Draft proposed WG Charter
- How to proceed?
- Another meeting Feb 23, in place of Architecture - will confirm by email.
- Probably need another call - suggest using Discovery Feb 27 slot
- When can we make a resolution to send the draft WG Charter to the W3M/Wide review/AC review?
- Aim for draft charter end of Feb 27, have resolution to send for AC review on Mar 1 in main call.
- Probably we should update the details document, if we link it from the charter; don't necessarily have to finish policy docs if not linked
- Probably still need to clarify what to be described by the Charter
- abstract description of each expected deliverable (including why it's necessary)
- relationship among deliverables
- policy on how to deal with contributions and liaisons, etc.
- Charter Organizational Issues
- Issues/PRs on the old wot repo cleaned up
- Testimonials
- Need to start collecting these, note they are now separate from implementation descriptions
- Who/For What/Until When/How?
- Societal Impact Questionnaire
- https://w3ctag.github.io/societal-impact-questionnaire/
- McCool will create draft, can be edited by others and submitted next week
- Will just do one for all of WoT... PR against Arch repo
- Review Liaisons - should be discussed as part of the new WG Charter topic.
- OPC UA
- Now discussing next steps with OPC UA execs and W3M
- Tech requirements: https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/liaisons/opcf/tech_reqs.md
- Need another DTDL meeting
- Post-TPAC due to Erich's availability
- OPC UA
- Review Collaborations
- Anything?
- Review Ongoing Action Items
- TF Reports
- AOB?
15 February 2023
Cancelled due to the Charter Meeting.
8 February 2023
Chair: Sebastian/McCool
Regrets: any?
Scribe: Daniel
- Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts
- W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG
- Patent Policy FAQ - Q6
- Membership classes and fees
- New Member: Luca Barbato from Luminem
- New IE request: none
- Minutes
- Quick updates
- Next Use Cases call on Feb 14? - conflict with the 2nd Charter meeting?
- Note: Use Cases call will be held every Tuesday for a while.
- Discussion: Policy for use case collection to be decided, e.g., how to get use cases from which industry how, and how to extract requirements from those industry-based use cases
- Marketing call on Feb 28 to discuss the policy on collaboration with CGs
- New Wiki for Profile TF
- Use Case Requirements - Template - Geolocation PR
- Debriefing from the meeting between Sebastian and PLH around OPC UA liaison (see below)
- Next Use Cases call on Feb 14? - conflict with the 2nd Charter meeting?
- Planning
- WoT Workshop in 2024?
- Normally done for "new" topics... Digital Twins? Smart Cities? Edge Computing?
- Another Testfest during current (extended) charter? March?
- Developer Meeting
- Next F2F meeting? TPAC? Special WoT meeting/Testing before/after? In Spain or elsewhere in the EU?
- WoT Workshop in 2024?
- Cancellations and TF Meeting Schedule
- Publications progress check
- Milestones calculator
- publication schedule
- Planning for the Developer Meeting on Testing?
- WG Charter
- Doodle poll for the 2nd Charter Meeting
- Draft proposed WG Charter
- Several PRs against charter draft still open
- How to proceed:
- Each TF refines PRs (moved to a new repo to make it easier to see diffs)
- WG work on current set of PRs for draft WG 2023 charter until Feb 8
- WG will propose a resolution to merge into a first draft charter
- WG will schedule a set of meetings the week of Feb 13 to restructure, with the goal of publishing the final draft representing the consensus on Feb 22
- need to clarify what is really needed for the Charter
- abstract description of each expected deliverable (including why it's necessary)
- relationship among deliverables
- policy on how to deal with contributions and liaisons, etc.
- Charter Organizational Issues
- Older charter discussion
- Testimonials
- Need to start collecting these, note they are now separate from implementation descriptions
- Who/For What/Until When/How?
- Societal Impact Questionnaire
- https://w3ctag.github.io/societal-impact-questionnaire/
- McCool will create draft, can be edited by others and submitted next week
- Will just do one for all of WoT... PR against Arch repo
- Review Liaisons - should be discussed as part of the new WG Charter topic.
- OPC UA
- Now discussing next steps with OPC UA execs and W3M
- Tech requirements: https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/liaisons/opcf/tech_reqs.md
- Need another DTDL meeting
- Post-TPAC due to Erich's availability
- OPC UA
- Review Collaborations
- Anything?
- Review Ongoing Action Items
- TF Reports
- AOB?
1 February 2023
Chair: McCool/Sebastian
Regrets: any?
Scribe: Sebastian
- Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts
- W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG
- Patent Policy FAQ - Q6
- Membership classes and fees
- New Member: none
- New IE request: none
- Minutes
- Quick updates
- Next Use Cases call on Feb 7
- Note: Use Cases call will be held every Tuesday for a while.
- Discussion: Policy for use case collection to be decided, e.g., how to get use cases from which industry how, and how to extract requirements from those industry-based use cases
- Debriefing from the meeting between McCool and PLH?
- PLH is OK with proposed fixes to Arch 1.1 (for DTLS 1.3) and Discovery (DID and DNS-SD) without a new CR
- Would like DID to check Discovery updates
- Also OK with testimonial/implementation approach, OPC UA to be discussed further
- Next Use Cases call on Feb 7
- Cancellations and TF Meeting Schedule
- Publications - Milestones calculator
- PROGRESS CHECK: continue to check the progress
- WG Charter
- Current WG Charter has been extended till July 31
- Review the minutes from the Charter meeting?
- Next steps - how to proceed?
- Draft proposed WG Charter
- Several PRs against charter draft still open
- Another set of meetings
- Doodle poll
- Each TF refines PRs (will move to a new repo to make it easier to see diffs)
- WG work on current set of PRs for draft WG 2023 charter until Feb 8
- WG will propose a resolution to merge into a first draft charter
- WG will schedule a set of meetings the week of Feb 13 to restructure, with the goal of publishing the final draft representing the consensus on Feb 22
- need to clarify what is really needed for the Charter
- abstract description of each expected deliverable (including why it's necessary)
- relationship among deliverables
- policy on how to deal with contributions and liaisons, etc.
- Charter Organizational Issues
- Older charter discussion
- Testimonials
- Need to start collecting these, note they are now separate from implementation descriptions
- Who/For What/Until When/How?
- Societal Impact Questionnaire
- https://w3ctag.github.io/societal-impact-questionnaire/
- McCool will create draft, can be edited by others and submitted next week
- Will just do one for all of WoT... PR against Arch repo
- Review Liaisons - should be discussed as part of the new WG Charter topic.
- OPC UA
- Now discussing next steps with OPC UA execs and W3M
- Tech requirements: https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/liaisons/opcf/tech_reqs.md
- Need another DTDL meeting
- Post-TPAC due to Erich's availability
- OPC UA
- Review Collaborations
- Anything?
- Review Ongoing Action Items
- TF Reports
- AOB?
25 January 2023
Chair: Sebastian/McCool
Regrets: any?
Scribe: Michael Koster
- Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts
- W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG
- Patent Policy FAQ - Q6
- Membership classes and fees
- New Member: none
- New IE request: none
- Minutes
- Quick updates
- Debriefing from CCNC2023 - International Workshop on IoT Interoperability and the Web of Things (IIWOT'23)
- Next Use Cases call?
- proposal to have a meeting on Jan 31
- just one-time or regular calls?
- Policy for use case collection to be decided, e.g., how to get use cases from which industry how, and how to extract requirements from those industry-based use cases
- Call Logistics and Schedule
- Cancellations and TF Meeting Schedule
- Need to move from WebEx to Zoom by June 30
- Calendar entries need to be extended - wait until extension approved, then will update
- Publications - Milestones calculator
- All the three CRs were published on Jan 19:
- WoT Architecture 1.1
- WoT Thing Description 1.1
- WoT Discovery
- However, several issues which may require a 2nd CR, e.g., https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/449
- need to talk with PLH
- WoT Profile updated WD was also published on Jan 18
- PROGRESS CHECK: continue to check the progress
- current plan
- proposed schedule for extension
- also update the schedule on the WoT main wiki
- All the three CRs were published on Jan 19:
- WG Charter
- current Charter will be extended by 6 months so that we can finalize our specs and new WG Charter
- Kaz has sent an extension request to W3M; will be discussed by W3M today on Jan 25
- Special Charter meeting
- Next steps?
- Several PRs against charter draft still open
- Another set of meetings?
- Proposal:
- Each TF refines PRs over next two weeks
- Feb 14, Use case call slot: Meeting to merge PRs into "first draft", decide how to restructure
- Proposal:
- Clarify what is really needed for the charter?
- Charter Organizational Issues
- Older charter discussion
- Testimonials
- Need to start collecting these, note they are now separate from implementation descriptions
- Who/For What/Until When/How?
- Societal Impact Questionnaire
- https://w3ctag.github.io/societal-impact-questionnaire/
- McCool will create draft, can be edited by others and submitted next week
- Will just do one for all of WoT... PR against Arch repo
- Review Liaisons - should be discussed as part of the new WG Charter topic.
- OPC UA
- Now discussing next steps with OPC UA execs and W3M
- Tech requirements: https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/liaisons/opcf/tech_reqs.md
- Need another DTDL meeting
- Post-TPAC due to Erich's availability
- OPC UA
- Review Collaborations
- Anything?
- Review Ongoing Action Items
- TF Reports
- AOB?
11 January 2023
Chair: McCool/Sebastian
Regrets: any?
Scribe: Cristiano
- Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts
- W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG
- Patent Policy FAQ - Q6
- Membership classes and fees
- New Member: none
- New IE request: none
- Minutes
- CCNC2023 - International Workshop on IoT Interoperability and the Web of Things (IIWOT'23)
- McCool will remotely give a 45m keynote speech at the workshop on Jan 11. - PR 1047 for draft slides
- Videos and/or slides from commercial apps potentially useful
- CG contributions too, but need to ask for permission; ex MagentaZuhauseApp
- Quick updates
- Cancellations and updates
- Chairs and each TF Moderators should clarify the schedule around year end/new year.
- Special charter meeting Jan 16-18; see below
- Use Cases update
- Jan-10 minutes
- Next meeting: to be confirmed
- Policy for use case collection specifically for the next Charter period?
- Testfest updates
- 2022.12.Online - work area for the Testfest 2022 Dec.
- Cancellations and updates
- Publications - Milestones calculator
- All the three CR Transition Requests, Architecture, TD and Discovery, have been approved.
- Kaz is working with the Webmaster for publication - preferably before EOY
- Architecture CR Transition Request
- Note: need Resolution to close Issue 809
- TD CR Transition Request
- Discovery CR Transition Request
- However, issue with DID that needs a normative change: https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/449
- Architecture CR Transition Request
- Kaz is working with the Webmaster for publication - preferably before EOY
- Problem: we will not be able to reach PR during the current charter
- Proposed Resolution: In order to have time to reach PR status for our deliverables, the WoT WG will request a 4-month extension to the current charter, to May 31, 2023
- This would also imply the next charter would start June 1, 2023
- Proposed Resolution: In order to have time to reach PR status for our deliverables, the WoT WG will request a 4-month extension to the current charter, to May 31, 2023
- Testimonials
- Need to start collecting these, note they are now separate from implementation descriptions
- Who/For What/Until When/How?
- Other notes
- IANA registration for Discovery has been fixed
- See: wot entries
- Working on registering DID service endpoint names
- McCool made a PR against DID repos
- BUT needs an @context for DID document
- Can update the example, but... needs a normative reference or assertion
- But since can't make normative changes in CR, we can't do this...
- Proposal: proceed with CR as resolved but will need an updated CR to address DID issue
- IANA registration for Discovery has been fixed
- Profile:
- Resolution during the main call on Nov-2
- WoT Profile ED
- Latest Draft Implementation Report
- WD candidate publication still in progress
- WD draft has been prepared
- gathered implementation experience in the Dec 12-16 Testfest/plugfest.
- Societal Impact Questionnaire
- https://w3ctag.github.io/societal-impact-questionnaire/
- McCool will create draft, can be edited by others and submitted next week
- Will just do one for all of WoT... PR against Arch repo
- PROGRESS CHECK: continue to check the progress based on the updated plan
- also update the schedule on the WoT main wiki
- Some deadlines need to be updated, for example TD
- potential delay due to the lack of implementations for at-risk features
- All the three CR Transition Requests, Architecture, TD and Discovery, have been approved.
- New WG Charter
- Special Meeting Series on Jan 16-18 to complete a finalized new WG charter
- Proposals should go into https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/proposals/deliverable-proposals
- Use Case calls held Dec 20 and Jan 10 to gather requirements
- Developing summary coverage-map.md document for review in charter discussion
- We should clarify our policy for the next WG Charter period, e.g., prioritize WoT's actual applications for industries working with existing IoT standards like OPC UA and ECHONET Lite Web API.
- For that purpose, we should consider how to deal with the liaisons with OPC and ECHONET within the new WG Charter.
- See also https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/206
- Example deliverable template:
- What: Binding Templates, Vocabulary and Ontology, Conformance tests
- How: A separate joint WG?, WoT WG as a joint WG?, a TF within the WoT WG?, just part of the TD/Binding discussion?
- Who: Editors from W3C, OPC and/or ECHONET?
- Resources: Technical Requirements for OPC UA liaison
- Special Meeting Series on Jan 16-18 to complete a finalized new WG charter
- Other topics
- Relationship between the WoT-IG/WG and the WoT CG
- Usage of the W3C WoT Twitter account - Kaz would suggest we simply split the CG work from the chartered WG/IG work including the Twitter account to avoid this kind of discussion for topic by topic.
- Relationship between the WoT-IG/WG and the WoT CG
- Review Liaisons
- OPC UA
- Now discussing next steps with OPC UA execs and W3M
- Tech requirements: https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/liaisons/opcf/tech_reqs.md
- Need another DTDL meeting
- Post-TPAC due to Erich's availability
- OPC UA
- Review Collaborations
- Anything?
- Review Ongoing Action Items
- TF Reports
- AOB?
Repo Management
Renaming Master to Main
See: Renaming the "master" branches to "main" (Member-only)
- Make sure to update your forks and local copies
- BEFORE making change in local copies or fork, check in all pending edits/updates
- Do NOT rebase a fork until you make this change
- To change in forks, look under Settings/Branches and change "master" to "main"
- For local copies...
- Simple way: delete and reclone
- Alternatively, for local direct clones of the w3c repo
-
git branch -m master main
-
git fetch origin
-
git branch -u origin/main main
-
- See above link for instructions
You can understand what this does better by reading the git branch docs.
Here -m
"moves" the branch (renaming master
to main
locally, basically) and -u
associates a remote "upstream" branch with a local branch, so that git pull
does the right thing (for instance). Note this means that you MUST update the remote first before trying to update your local copies. If you have other remotes you don't have to do anything, just either use the new branch name explicitly (e.g. git fetch upstream; git merge upstream/main
) or make sure the upstream repo has renamed master
to main
if you want fetch and merge corresponding branches in one step using git pull upstream
. Here upstream
is the name that I (McCool) use for a remote pointing at the w3c repo in MY setup. I cloned my original local copies from my own fork on github, so I have origin
pointing at my own fork. I then used git remote add upstream https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing
to add an additional remote called upstream
pointed at the corresponding W3C repo I can use for rebasing, etc. I do PRs by pushing up changes to my own fork, then doing PRs to the W3C repos from there using the web interface. See above link for more instructions.