WG WoT Discovery WebConf
From Web of Things Interest Group
The WoT Discovery task force is responsible for defining a distribution mechanism for WoT Thing Descriptions that can be used to facilitate access to WoT Things and services while supporting security and privacy.
WebConf Information
- Quick start guide for W3C teleconferences
- Table of all the WoT calls on our Web page
- W3C WG Calendar - Please use this for schedule and call-in logistics.
- Scripting APIs | Security | Discovery | Marketing | Use Cases | PlugFest/Testing | TD | Architecture | Profile
This is a call of the WoT Working Group (WG).
General Information
See also https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Discovery_TF
Schedule
Key Dates
- See new WG charter
Cancellations
- None currently
Actions
Future Topics
- Review https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/proposals/wot-discovery.md
- Need to update background review
- Organize wot-discovery repo
- HTML template
- Outline
- Use cases
- Privacy issues
- Fingerprinting based on discovery results, even if just a list of directories
- Existing discovery mechanisms and extensions
- IETF Liasion
Agendas
Upcoming
- Alignment with other docs
- See https://www.w3.org/2021/11/23-wot-ed-minutes.html
- Need to clean up use cases, terminology, put in right places
Next Meeting
Put proposed new agenda items here.
- Next charter
18 September 2023
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Cristiano
- Review Minutes
- Ontology for DID vocabulary (carried over)
- see previous agendas
- TPAC Followup
- Other Issues and PRs
- AOB
4 September 2023
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Kaz
- Review Minutes
- TPAC Planning
- Agenda
- Presentation materials - outline
- To dos
- Ontology for DID vocabulary (carried over)
- Other Issues and PRs
- AOB
7 August 2023
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Kaz
- Review Minutes
- Logistics
- Vacations, cancellations, etc during August?
- TPAC Planning
- Ontology for DID vocabulary
- Other Issues and PRs
- AOB
31 July 2023
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Kaz
- Review Minutes
- Ontology for DID vocabulary
- TPAC Planning
- Planning
- Use Cases and Requirements
- Other Issues and PRs
- AOB
24 July 2023
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Andrea/Kaz
- Review Minutes
- Ontology for DID vocabulary
- Planning
- Other Issues and PRs
- AOB
3 July 2023
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Andrea
- Review Minutes
- Detailed Planning
- Issues and PRs
- AOB
26 June 2023
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Kaz
- Review Minutes
- Detailed Planning
- Issues and PRs
- AOB
29 May 2023
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Kaz
- Review Minutes
- Review IR
- Other PRs
- Change Log
- AOB
22 May 2023
Duration: 2h (special case - to finalize PR draft)
Scribe: Farshid
- Review Minutes
- Finalize PR Draft
- AOB
15 May 2023
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Kaz
- Review Minutes
- Review Assertion Priorities and Test Data
- AOB
24 April 2023
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Christian Glomb
- Review Minutes
- Review Assertion Priorities:
- Update Schedule
- AOB
17 April 2023
CANCELLED - Poor Attendance. Hannover Fair, etc.
Duration: 1h
Developer Meeting!
However, no external attendees joined us (an unfortunate possibility) so converted to regular Discovery call and use #wot-discovery for minutes, and the following agenda:
- Review Minutes
- Review Assertions:
- Slides: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1HEI1uObGJdXEddWbg2vWFz_LjiCL44yHGac8EPUzGUs/edit#slide=id.p
- Plan to resolve...
- AOB
3 April 2023
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Farshid
- Review Minutes
- Developer Meeting Preparation
- Logistics: https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/tree/main/events/2023.03.DevMtg#discovery (April 17 in Discovery slot)
- Discovery Slides: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1HEI1uObGJdXEddWbg2vWFz_LjiCL44yHGac8EPUzGUs/edit?usp=sharing
- Review of at-risk items: https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/blob/main/testing/atrisk.csv
- PRs and Issues
- AOB
27 March 2023
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Jan
- Review Minutes
- PRs and Issues
- Dev Meeting Preparation
- Testing
- Also need to be resolved by PR: Testing
- AOB
20 March 2023
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Kaz
- Review Minutes
- PRs and Issues
- Priority: resolve by PR
- Testing
- Also need to be resolved by PR: Testing
- AOB
6 March 2023
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Jan
- Review Minutes
- PRs and Issues
- Close "Propose Closing" issues
- DID Registration
- Testing
- AOB
20 February 2023
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Andrea
- Review Minutes
- 23 January 2023
- Feb 13 meeting was cancelled due to Charter meetings
- CR Bugfixes
- Other agenda items from Feb 13 agenda
- DID Registration still open, need to fix URLs
- Other Issues and PRs
- Testing
- AOB
13 February 2023
CANCELLED - Agenda items below to be carried forward.
Duration: 1h
Scribe:
- Review Minutes
- Registrations: https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/187
- Well-known:
- https://www.iana.org/assignments/well-known-uris/well-known-uris.xhtml
- questions in issue addressed here: https://github.com/protocol-registries/well-known-uris/issues/24
- CoRE-RD: no response, ping sent
- Well-known:
- Draft CR2
- https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/462 - includes preview and diff
- Resolution proposed (email sent to group) for Feb 8 for CR2 publication by Feb 15
- Testing
- gaps
- at-risk items
- AOB
6 February 2023
cancelled
30 January 2023
cancelled
23 January 2023
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Farshid
- Review Minutes
- CR Publication
- 19 Jan 2023: https://www.w3.org/TR/wot-discovery/
- Yes, but...
- CR Problems
- DID service name registration needs *JSON-LD* context for new vocabulary
- ALSO it seems some last-minute changes to the DNS-SD text (splitting up TCP and UDP text entries to align with the IANA registration) did not get into the CR...
- Also, not clear registration for 11.1 (wot well-known name) has been done
- Needs CR2 to resolve (normative changes)
- Proposal:
- Update Editor's draft -> CR2 Candidate
- Issue call for resolution to issue new CR
- Two week internal WoT review
- Resolution to publish CR2 for Discovery on Feb 8
- Actual CR2 transition estimated on Feb 16
- Revised schedule: https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1049
- Next Charter
- Testing
- Review updated implementation report
- Who can address gaps?
- AOB
19 December 2022
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Kaz
- Review Minutes
- Logistics
- Schedule for rest of year and into 2023
- Due to Special Charter Meeting next Discovery call will be Jan 23.
- IANA Registration
- DID Registration
- DID service name registration needs JSON-LD context
- https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/402
- How can we add this during CR?
- Also, we need implementations of this...
- Next Charter
- Testing
- Review updated implementation report
- Who can address gaps?
- AOB
5 December 2022
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Christian Glomb
- Review Minutes
- Logistics
- Schedule for rest of year and into 2023
- CR Transition
- IANA Registration
- DID Registration
- Testing
- AOB
28 November 2022
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Ege
- Guests
- Review Minutes
- i18n Wide Review - Issue Resolution
- https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/labels/i18n-needs-resolution
- Unicode code points for sorting: https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/441
- Other TD issues: https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/1750
- Discovery CR Transition
- Issue requesting transition: https://github.com/w3c/transitions/issues/465
- Horizontal review open issues: https://www.w3.org/PM/horizontal/review.html?shortname=wot-discovery
- IANA Registration
- defined TXT keys not captured? See https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/403
- Other PRs
- Updated Implementation Report/template.csv: https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/442
- Testfest
- What at-risk items should we prioritize?
- Who will be working on what?
- AOB
21 November 2022
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Andrea
- Review Minutes
- CR Transition
- Issue requesting transition (still open): https://github.com/w3c/transitions/issues/465
- Horizontal review open issues: https://www.w3.org/PM/horizontal/review.html?shortname=wot-discovery
- IANA Registration
- Testfest
- AOB
14 November 2022
CANCELLED - McCool unavailable
7 November 2022
CANCELLED - McCool unavailable
31 October 2022
CANCELLED - Kaz unavailable
24 October 2022
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Jan
- Review Minutes
- Implementation Report & CR Transition
- IANA Registration
- Planning and Logistics
- AOB
17 October 2022
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Farshid
- Review Minutes
- Implementation Report & CR Transition
- Planning and Logistics
- AOB
10 October 2022
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Andrea
- Review Minutes
- PRs
- Testing
- CR Transition Readiness
- List of at-risk items
- Change log
- IANA Request
- AOB
26 September 2022
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Kaz
- Review Minutes
- Logistics
- Discovery meeting cancelled next week due to Testfest?
- PRs
- Testing
- CR Transition Preparation
- McCool will prep for mtg in two weeks
- Issue cleanup
- AOB
5 September 2022
Duration: 2h (will stop earlier if done)
Scribe: Christian/Cristiano
- Review Minutes
- PRs
- Issues
- CR Candidate Resolution
- More Issues
- Discovery Next
- Testing
- AOB
29 August 2022
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Farshid
- Review Minutes
- Logistics
- Next meeting - 2h?
- Zoom vs WebEx
- PRs
- Issues
- AOB
22 August 2022
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Kaz
- Review Minutes
- Logistics
- TPAC, Pre-TPAC, Post-TPAC, cancellations, etc.
- Zoom vs WebEx
- Pre-CR reviews and other necessities (e.g. scheduling)
- TAG Review
- Wide Review
- Done?
- Review IANA Registration Requirements
- May need more detail, a template, etc. etc.
- Next Charter Deliverables
- Discovery 1.1 vs. 2.0
- Issues
- AOB
8 August 2022
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Farshid
- Review Minutes
- Logistics
- Aug 15 is a holiday in Germany: cancel next mtg?
- TAG Review
- Wide Review
- Next Charter Deliverables
- Testing
- Issues
- AOB
1 August 2022
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Andrea
- Review Minutes
- PRs
- TAG Review
- https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/733 - Discovery, some small action items
- see also https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/736 - need to review security and privacy assertions, look for policy-like assertions
- Testing
- Issues
- AOB
25 July 2022
Testfest - Discovery call cancelled.
Discovery TF members should prioritize attending the Testfest calls.
See https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/blob/main/events/2022.07.Online/README.md for logistics of Testfest calls.
18 July 2022
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Christian
- Review Minutes
- PRs
- Testing
- manual.csv updated, in wot-discovery
- Test tools updated...
- Should link rather than copy (both for manual.csv and template.csv)
- Should use new directory for July testfest for new PRs
- Publication Preparation
- Issues
- TAG Review and Security and Privacy assertions
- need to review, see https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/736
- TAG Review and Security and Privacy assertions
- AOB
11 July 2022
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Farshid
- Review Minutes
- Testing
- Tooling, CSV file updates?
- PRs
- Publication Preparation
- Charter Topics
- Issues
- AOB
4 July 2022
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Andrea
- Review Minutes
- Quick Updates
- Testing tool being updated - new assertions, manual/auto, notifications
- Should be ready in a few days
- PRs
- Publication Preparation
- Implementation Report
- Issues
- AOB
27 June 2022
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Cristiano
- Review Minutes
- Update
- Duplicate IDs (merged): https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/358
- Other PRs
- Privacy updates
- Change log
- Other
- Publication Preparation
- Treating as "CR Snapshot" although probably should be just WD - to discuss
- Most PubRule errors resolved in publication/3-cr version, except for Link Checker
- Implementation Report
- Updates to manual.csv?
- Need to finalize at-risk list and markup if we are going for CR Transition
- CR Transition
- Resolution this Wed planned for main call
- Confirm: CR transition
- Updates since cr-candidate branch... need to make a diff
- Issues
- AOB
20 June 2022
Duration: 1h
Regrets: Christian
Scribe: Kaz
- Review Minutes
- PRs
- Implementation Report
- Issues
- AOB
13 June 2022
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Christian
- Review Minutes
- PRs
- CoAP TD Servers
- Content-Type
- TLS Fixes
- Discoverer Fixes
- Implementation Report
- Issues
- ID Rotation, see above
- WD Publication
- Restart 2-week review?
- AOB
6 June 2022
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Farshid
- Review Minutes
- PRs
- TD Server - basic Exploration Service that Serves one TD
- two (mutually exclusive) options
- TD Server separate from Self-Description
- Self-Description as a special case of a TD Server
- Others
- TD Server - basic Exploration Service that Serves one TD
- Testfest
- template.csv update
- Needed: manual.csv
- Implementation Report Draft
- AOB
30 May 2022
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Kaz
- Review Minutes
- Discovery Explainer (draft)
- Proceed with wide reviews? Need to capture branch, publish WD...
- PRs
- Internationalization Questionnaire updates
- Security Bootstrapping
- 302 or 303 temporary redirections
- rewording to make optional - don't want to force (weaker) security when not needed
- Suppress Unused Dfns Respec Error
- Update Discovery overview figure and Architecture section
- Service Exploration - depends on/extends PR #323
- Wide Review
- Need to publish a WD to support reviews
- Scripting - Discovery support
- Issues
- AOB
23 May 2022
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Cristiano
- Review Minutes
- Discovery Explainer (draft)
- PRs
- Wide Review
- Need to publish a WD to support reviews
- Scripting - Discovery support
- Issues
- AOB
16 May 2022
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Andrea
- Review Minutes
- Discovery Explainer (draft)
- Testing
- Implementation descriptions
- PRs
- Issues
- AOB
9 May 2022
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Farshid
- Review Minutes
- Security and Privacy
- TLS and access controls - Please review
- Terminology
- Update Discoverer, add Registrant Definitions - please review
- Testing
- TDs needed for TDDs
- New Implementation: Simple TD Directory for Home Assistant interfacing
- Also need implementation descriptions, under Architecture/Impls
- Issues
- PRs
- AOB
2 May 2022
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Andrea
- Review Minutes
- Review use case requirements:
- https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/blob/main/USE-CASES/coverage.csv
- Define small set of tags, e.g. "ad-hoc", "dev time", etc. and fill in Discovery column
- Submit Directory TDs for TDDs to wot-testing
- Good TD tests, certain features only used by TDDs
- Logilab has done theirs (see TD/logilab)
- Also need to add manual assertions, add to batchValidation.sh
- Explainer
- Wide Review
- Guidelines
- Issues:
- Architecture (TAG)
- Security
- Privacy
- Internationalization
- Accessibility
- To do, using these answers to APA FAST questionnaire in WoT Architecture
- PRs
- Issues
- Schedule
- WD Update
- CR Candidate
- AOB
11 April 2022
Duration: 1h
Scribe: McCool
- Review Minutes
- Testing/IR
- PRs
- Schedule
- Issues
- AOB
4 April 2022
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Andrea/Kaz
- Review Minutes
- PRs
- Use Case Review
- Wide Reviews
- https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/280
- Still working on internationalization, security, etc.
- Testing
- AOB
28 March 2022
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Christian
- Review Minutes
- PRs
- Testing
- Draft Implementation Report
- Schedule
- Issues
- Security and Privacy Considerations: Normative?
- AOB
21 March 2022
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Kaz
- Review Minutes
- PRs
- Testing
- Draft Implementation Report - see PR
- Improvements to test results data (CSV format issues, possible ID changes...)
- Plan to address gaps
- Schedule
- Issues
- AOB
14 March 2022
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Christian
- Review Minutes
- PRs
- Testing
- AOB
7 March 2022
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Farshid
- Review Minutes
- Schedule
- Wide Review
- Process: https://www.w3.org/Guide/documentreview/#how_to_get_horizontal_review
- Security and Privacy:
- Review needed: https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1382
- Accessibility:
- Internationalization:
- Testing and Testfest
- Review and Discuss PRs
- Clean up Terminology Respec errors (external definitions)
- Also need to clean up "Discoverer" definition still
- And order of introduction of terms, e.g. TDD
- AOB
28 February 2022
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Andrea
- Review Minutes
- Wide Review
- Process: https://www.w3.org/Guide/documentreview/#how_to_get_horizontal_review
- Security and Privacy:
- Review needed: https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1382
- Accessibility:
- Internationalization:
- Review and Discuss PRs
- Clean up Terminology Respec errors (external definitions)
- AOB
21 February 2022
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Kaz
- Review Minutes
- Review and Discuss PRs
- Clean up Terminology Respec errors (external definitions)
- AOB
14 February 2022
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Christian
- Review Minutes
- Review and Discuss PRs
- Client Discovery Process
- Others
- Publication process
- Resolutions
- Schedule
- Wide Reviews
- See draft issue for TD
- We need to do something similar; also, explainer, etc.
- Security Review
- Issue Cleanup
- AOB
7 February 2022
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Cristiano
- Review Minutes
- Review and Discuss PRs
- Thing Link
- Publication process
- Resolutions
- Schedule
- Wide Reviews
- Issue Cleanup
- AOB
31 January 2022
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Christian
- Review Minutes
- Review and Discuss PRs
- Normative Feature Freeze
- Wide Review, WD Update, etc.
- Other
- Geolocation - ongoing, mtg tomorrow with Christine Perey
- Issue Cleanup
- Next Meeting Planning
- AOB
24 January 2022
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Farshid
- Review Minutes
- PRs
- Security and Privacy Considerations
- Other
- Geolocation
- SDW-WG - request to write section in their best practices on geofencing
- GeoPose update - draft specification available: https://github.com/opengeospatial/GeoPose/blob/main/standard/pdf/geopose_standard.pdf
- IEEE P2874 update - detailed proposal available: https://sagroups.ieee.org/2874/
- Geolocation
- Issue Cleanup
- Next Meeting Planning
- AOB
17 January 2022
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Jan
- Review Minutes
- Quick Updates
- Security and Privacy Considerations
- Geolocation
- SDW-WG - request to write section in their best practices on geofencing
- GeoPose update - draft specification available: https://github.com/opengeospatial/GeoPose/blob/main/standard/pdf/geopose_standard.pdf
- IEEE P2874 update - detailed proposal available: https://sagroups.ieee.org/2874/
- WoT Use Cases
- Proposed information model etc.
- PRs
- Issues
- AOB
10 January 2022
Note: Michael McCool cannot attend. Farshid will chair.
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Andrea
- Review Minutes
- PRs
- Add Thing Model: https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/253
- Assertion for optional Notification API: https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/252
- Change event type's naming convention to thing_<past-verb>: https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/251
- Issues
- Directories should notify subscribers when a TD is updated: https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/28
- Capture requirements for JSONPath: https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/100
- Consider using "JSON Lines" for large TDs: https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/93
- Need information model for directory: https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/98
- Define Out-of-Band Information: https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/30
- Review Comments from Ege Korkan: https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/178
- AOB
13 December 2021
Last meeting of 2021.
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Kaz
- Review Minutes
- Meeting logistics
- McCool has a conflict Jan 10 and cannot attend
- PRs
- Issues
- TD Vocab for Discovery: https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/1033
- Others
- AOB
6 December 2021
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Christian
- Review Minutes
- Logistics
- Meeting schedule
- Review PRs
- Review issues above and on repo
- AOB
29 November 2021
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Farshid
- Review Minutes
- Review "Upcoming Issues", above
- Review Issues and PRs
- TD/Thing ID issue
- Summary of point made in TD mtg: id is for a Thing, why don't TDDs just assign a local id for TDs stored in it?
- We discussed this (having "local ids" for the TDD record separate from the TD.id field) at length before. Reopening this would however require a major restructuring of the current discovery API, changes to implementations, etc. What to do?
- Issue cleanup/schedule
- What can we close?
- What can we defer to Discovery 1.1/2.0?
- What do we have to finish before CR?
- AOB
22 November 2021
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Andrea
- Review Minutes
- Review Issues and PRs
- AOB
15 November 2021
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Christian Glomb
- Review Minutes
- JSON Path
- Use cases
- Current spec lacks regexes and any way to do substring compares
- Review Issues and PRs
- AOB
8 November 2021
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Andrea
- Review Minutes
- Review Issues and PRs
- AOB
1 November 2021
Duration: 2h
Scribe: Kaz
- Review Minutes
- Review Draft F2F Minutes
- 5 October 2021
- Action items:
- Use of fragment identifiers in IDs to resolve "is ID that of TD or of Thing?" problem
- Discussed here https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/190
- See discussion of this issue also in the Oct 28 F2F minutes: https://www.w3.org/2021/10/28-wot-minutes.html#t07
- But: see https://www.w3.org/Addressing/URL/4_2_Fragments.html
- "Fragment identifiers do NOT address the question of objects which are different versions of a "living" object, nor of expressing the relationships between different versions and the living object."
- Maybe use "?view=X" or something? Need to see if there is a mechanism for versioning in UUID or something.
- Use of fragment identifiers in IDs to resolve "is ID that of TD or of Thing?" problem
- Review Issues and PRs
- AOB
25 October 2021
Cancelled due to F2F/TPAC
- Not a direct conflict, but Kaz has other meetings that week that conflict
- In general we have been asked to avoid scheduling WG meetings during TPAC week
18 October 2021
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Farshid
- Minutes
- Action items from F2F
- JSONPath
- simple version for narrow use case
- JSONPath
- PRs
- Review and label issues
- AOB
11 October 2021
Cancelled due to OpenDay conflict
4 October 2021
Duration: 1h Scribe: Christiano
Agenda:
- Prep for F2F
27 September 2021
Cancelled due to plugfest
20 September 2021
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Jan
- Minutes
- PRs
- Review and label issues
- AOB
13 September 2021
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Andrea
- Minutes
- (no PRs in wot-discovery)
- Review and label issues
- AOB
6 September 2021
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Andrea
- Minutes
- Planning
- Timelines, priorities, testing, etc.
- Need a "review" release (WD Update) done by Sept 30
- See issues marked with following labels
- Issues
- AOB
30 August 2021
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Christian
- Minutes
- Geolocation
- TPAC joint session
- Liaisons (esp. OGC)
- Relationship to Smart City activity
- Document writing up current experience/proposal/references, etc.
- Planning
- Timelines, priorities, testing, etc.
- Issues and PRs
- AOB
26 July 2021
Duration: 2h
Scribe: Andrea
- Minutes
- Cancellation schedule
- Timeline
- Publications
- Testing
- Issues and PRs
- AOB
19 July 2021
Duration: 2h
Scribe: Christian Glomb (first hour)
- Minutes
- Publication of update
- Issues and PRs
- AOB
12 July 2021
Duration: 1h
Scribe: Farshid
- Minutes
- Schedule
- Vacations in August
- 1h or 2h slots for next three weeks?
- Issues and PRs
- AOB
21 June 2021
Duration: 1h
CANCELLED
Scribe: Farshid
- Minutes
- F2F Prep
- PRs
- AOB
14 June 2021
Scribe: Andrea
- Minutes
- PRs
- Schedule and next pub
- F2F
- Testing
- Results
- Plan
- Report
- AOB
7 June 2021
Scribe: Cristiano
- Minutes
- Quick updates
- WD update publication
- Issues and PRs
- Testing (Testfest)
- AOB
31 May 2021
Scribe: Ben
- Minutes
- Quick updates
- WD update publication
- Diff
- Changes section needs to be updated, otherwise ready
- TD Signature WIP
- WD update publication
- Issues and PRs
- To Revise, Refactor, Restructure, or Redo
- AOB
24 May 2021
Note: Holiday in Canada and Europe, having meeting anyway...
Scribe: Ege
- Minutes
- Quick updates
- WD update publication
- F2F planning
- Session subtopics for Discovery
- Issues and PRs
- Pagination - https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/168
- Data Model/Ontology - https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/175
- Use of TD
- Others
- Planning
- Next steps, priorities
- AOB
17 May 2021
Scribe: Andrea
- Minutes
- Quick updates
- WD update publication
- Issues
- PRs
- Planning
- Next steps, priorities
- AOB
10 May 2021
Scribe: Farshid
Regrets: Christian G
- Minutes
- Quick updates
- WD update publication
- Planning
- Schedule review
- Issues and PRs
- AOB
3 May 2021
Scribe: Daniel
Regrets: Christian G, Andrea
- Minutes
- Quick updates
- WD publication update
- from TD TF: canonicalization
- from security TF: WIP, TD signing
- Scripting
- PRs
- Testing
- Issues
- AOB
26 April 2021
Scribe: Christiano
- Minutes
- Quick updates
- Resolution planned for April 28
- PRs
- Testing
- Issues
- AOB
19 April 2021
Scribe: Christian
- Minutes
- Quick updates
- Plan updates to working draft (for resolution April 28)
- PRs
- Issues
- AOB
12 April 2021
Scribe: Kaz
- Minutes
- Quick updates
- S&P updates pending
- validation
- we need to cite and select a level (intermediate? lower-intermediate: no extensions?)
- canonicalization
- Pending, items to discuss
- Plan B: store original string in directories still an option/safe fallback
- Review pagination
- Blocked by anonymous TDs - see below
- PRs and issues
- [https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/151 HTML formatting
- Anonymous TDs - blocker
- Finalize draft update, call for review
- AOB
29 March 2021
- Decide on pagination
- Our own content-based approach
- Our own header-based approach, but which is quite similar to the following (HTTP protocol specific)
- Just use https://www.w3.org/TR/ldp-paging/ as-is.
- TD support for this generally? Eg "paginated" annotation for interaction
8 March 2021
Scribe: Farshid
- Minutes
- Quick updates
- Scripting
- Pagination API for TDs, support for small devices
- Scripting API side needs to align with peer-to-peer Discovery network API
- Small devices might want to extract TD fragments/elements
- Maybe make JSONpath optional in peer-to-peer TD retrieval
- Could be supported on either server or client side, or both
- If producer does not support, then client could filter
- Producer could return an error if does not support queries, consumer could retry by fetching full TD, then doing client-side filtering
- Issues to be created (in both scripting and discovery, cross-ref)
- Scripting
- Plugfest report out
- Logistics
- F2F
- Cancellations
- Issues and PRs
- Pagination
- AOB
1 March 2021
Scribe: Andrea
- Minutes
- Quick Updates
- Plugfest happening this week
- Logistics
- Meeting cancellations during vF2F
- F2F agenda review
- wiki
- Review presentations week before F2F (March 8)
- upload presentations here: https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/master/PRESENTATIONS/2021-03-online-f2f
- PRs
- Planning
- Schedule
- Prioritization
- Following is a summary of "hot topics", but details in issue tracker (use "Priority" label for things that definitely need to be in the pre-CR draft)
- Directories
- JSONPath queries - limiting JS scripts for security
- SPARQL queries - RDF/JSON-LD framing, incl support for extensions
- TTL
- Validation spec for TDs
- Peer-to-Peer
- Query filters - @type keywords only
- Introductions
- Spec requirements, i.e. DNS-SD service names, DID resource types, etc.
- Geolocation
- Geolocation query filters on directories; and peer-to-peer?
- Alignment with OGC information models and APIs
- Issues
- AoB
22 February 2021
Note: special 2h meeting today
Scribe: Christiano/Christian
- Minutes
- Quick Updates
- Plugfest happening this week; Directory instances available? Projects?
- Logistics
- Cancel meeting during plugfest week?
- No, will have a 1h meeting, try to close on pagination (e.g. merge PR)
- F2F topics
- wiki
- Review presentations week before F2F (March 8)
- Cancel meeting during plugfest week?
- PRs
- Resource Types for RD Introductions
- Security and Privacy Considerations
- Issues
- Pagination
- AoB
15 February 2021
Scribe: Farshid
- Minutes
- Quick Updates
- Logistics
- 2h slot to prep for F2F
- F2F agenda
- PRs
- Discussion
- Terminology (views, data models, information models, serialization)
- Format of what is returned from discovery
- additionalResponses - dataschemas per response?
- Pagination - among TDs, within TDs
- Information model - changes?
- TD size limits and profiles
- Signing, canonicalization, validation, queries in P2P discovery
- Issues
- Ongoing
- AOB
8 February 2021
Scribe: Christian
- Minutes
- Quick Updates
- Review Information Model
- Pagination/streaming (and impact on information model)
- Issues and PRs
- Ongoing
- AOB
1 February 2021
Scribe: Christine
- Guests: Christine Perey is now an Invited Expert
- Minutes
- Quick Updates
- OCG Liaison
- Implementations
- Status and goals to get feature coverage
- Blockers: Frames
- Issues and PRs
- Security and Privacy Considerations for Discovery
- Requirement: encrypted TDs with visible (but periodically updated) IDs
- Security and Privacy Considerations for Discovery
- AOB
25 January 2021
Scribe: Andrea
- Guest: Christine Perey
- Minutes
- 18 January 2021
- 11 January 2021 (did not review last time)
- Quick Updates
- Testing planning
- Issues and PRs
- AOB
18 January 2021
Scribe: Cristiano
- Guest: Christine Perey
- Minutes
- 11 January 2021 (did not review... next time)
- Schedule and Publication Requirements
- 1 July, 2021: Target CR Transition (need implementation PLAN)
- 1 September, 2021: Target PR Transition for all publications (need implementation REPORT)
- Quick Updates
- Issues and PRs
- AOB
11 January 2021
Scribe: Farshid
- Minutes
- Issues and PRs
- AOB
4 January 2021
Scribe: Jack
- Minutes
- Scheduling
- Issues and PRs
- AOB
7 December 2020
Scribe: Farshid
- Minutes
- Scheduling
- Issues and PRs
- AOB
30 November 2020
Scribe: Christian
- Minutes
- Scheduling
- Issues and PRs
- AOB
23 November 2020
Scribe: Kaz
- Minutes
- Scheduling/Cancellations
- FPWD
- Issues and PRs
- Planning Next Steps
- AOB
16 November 2020
Scribe: Andrea
- Minutes
- Planning Next Steps
- Issues and PRs
- AOB
9 November 2020
Scribe: Farshid
- Minutes
- Planning Next Steps
- ??
- Issues and PRs
- AOB
26 October 2020
Note: not a discovery meeting, but a breakout prep meeting. Minutes will be reviewed in main call.
- Breakout preparation
- Logistics
- Demo videos
- Demo scenarios
12 October 2020
Scribe: Christian Glomb
- Guest
- Christian Kurze, MongoDB
- Jack Dickinson, Conexxus
- Minutes
- TPAC Prep
- FPWD Updates
- Plugfest recap
- Issues and PRs
- AOB
28 September 2020
Scribe: Cristiano
- Minutes
- Updates
- Plugfest activity
- AOB
21 September 2020
Scribe: Andrea
14 September 2020
Scribe: Cristiano
Regrets: Christian_Glomb
- Minutes
- TPAC vF2F Planning
- Joint meeting agenda items: DID, Privacy, JSON-LD
- Directory security requirements
- Review PRs
- Review Issues
- AOB
7 September 2020
Scribe: Kaz
- Minutes
- 17 Aug 2020 (not reviewed on Aug 24 or 31)
- 31 Aug 2020
- TPAC vF2F Planning
- Joint meeting agenda items: DID, Privacy, JSON-LD
- Schedule discussion for FPWD
- Review PRs
- Review Issues
- AOB
31 August 2020
Scribe: Farshid
- Minutes
- Security and TD Issues
- Review PRs
- Review Issues
- TPAC Planning
- vF2F timeslot reservation
- Joint meeting agendas
- Plugfest plans
- AOB
24 August 2020
Scribe: Christian Glomb
Regrets: Farshid
- Guests
- Christian Kurze
- Minutes
- Security and TD Issues
- Review PRs
- Review Issues
- Use case review
- Discovery Use Case (PR)
- Directories for TD Models
- Discovery Use Case (PR)
- AOB
17 August 2020
Scribe: Farshid/Zoltan
- Minutes
- Review PRs
- Issues
- Use case review
- Discovery Use Case (PR)
- Directories for TD Models (previously known as TD Templates)?
- Discovery Use Case (PR)
- AOB
10 August 2020
Scribe: Andrea
- Guests
- Christian Kurze
- Minutes
- MongoDB
- Review progress on draft
- Use case review
- Directories for TDTs
- PRs and issues
- AOB
3 August 2020
Scribe: Daniel
Regrets: Christian
- Minutes
- Review progress on draft
- AOB
27 July 2020
Scribe: David
Regrets: Christian
- Guests
- Christian Kurze
- Minutes
- Draft outline
- Publishing schedule update
- RDF Summaries
- Protocol to distinguish Directory from Thing
- Directory levels, query levels (profiles), JSONPath/XPath standardization...
- Use cases
- Discovery - wot-usecases PR 33
- Vertical connections: Retail, Smart City, Smart Home...
- Edge Computing - wot-usecases PR 31
- Discovery - wot-usecases PR 33
- AOB
20 July 2020
Scribe: Cristiano
- Minutes
- Draft outline
- AOB
13 July 2020
- Scribe: Farshid
- Minutes
- PRs
- Use cases
- AOB
6 July 2020
- Scribe: Andrea Cimmino
- Minutes
- New requirements/discussion points from F2F
- Untyped introductions
- Links in directories
- UPnP as introduction
- Acronym for Thing (Description) Directory; "TD" is no good
- Proof chaining
- Define purpose(s) of TTL; protocol-specific requirements
- Streaming (for delivering large TDs from directories...)
- Local vs. global IDs
- OpenID
- New requirements/discussion points from Plugfest
- IDs from TDs troublesome as primary keys since they are optional
- JSON Path implementation incompleteness problem; XPath
- DNS-SD service types
- Issues
- PRs
- IETF Discovery Liaison
- Need to review IETF RFCs and drafts
- Manifests, etc.
29 June 2020
Cancelled - post F2F rest week.
22 June 2020
Cancelled. Regular schedule replaced with (virtual) F2F schedule.
15 June 2020
During the WoT Plugfest, but we need to meet (during the regular time) to finalize F2F presentation material.
- Guests
- F2F Planning
- Presentation planning
- AOB
8 June 2020
Cancelled due to conflict with T2TRG/WoT Joint Workshop.
1 June 2020
- Guests
- Minutes
- F2F Planning
- PRs and issues
- Design document
- AOB
25 May 2020
- Minutes
- Review PRs and Issues
- Review requirements document
- Discuss how to capture "design decisions" (resolutions) and alternatives
- https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/blob/master/design.md
- Additional resolutions needed for
- Use of HTTP for directory services
- Use of JSON-LD 1.1 to encode results from directory services
- Allow directories to return more than one result
- Part-of-TD return values allowed for each result
- Pagination at result granularity (up to full TD)
- Allow use of JWT for directory service authentication
- API for directory service will be described with a TD (version "next" as needed)
- For discussion
- Allow use of OAuth2 (flow TBD) for directory service authentication
- Allow use of WebID (certificate rather a token; would need "cert" scheme) for directory service authentication
- Use of out-of-band information model (avoid modification of TDs in case of signed TDs) for timestamps, etc.
- Query support (and format? Perhaps can just start with desired capabilities)
- Name/type registrations: DID link types, DHCP records, DNS-SD types, etc. for both devices and directories
- Kinds of directory services: fixed (.well-known), basic (keyword query, eg JSONPath/XPath), advanced (SPARQL).
- Other?
- When/how should we get started on a draft index.html
- Outline
- Editors
- https://w3c.github.io/manual-of-style/
- Schedule...
- Explainer
- Do this in parallel with the index.html?
- AOB
18 May 2020
Cancelled due to conflict with AC meeting.
11 May 2020
- Guests
- Cristiano Aguzzi
- Minutes
- Review PRs
- Fujitsu's directory implementation
- UPM's use case - distributed directories for campus services
- Propose resolution about pagination
- Information model for "extra" data in directory
- Review requirements document
- https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/blob/master/requirements.md
- Discuss how to capture "design decisions" and alternatives
- Resolutions on two-phase approach, directories?
- AOB
4 May 2020
- Minutes
- TD Template/Partial TD/"Part of TD" support
- TTL Support
- Multiple results
- Is there a standard we can adopt?
- In general need some way to avoid huge results...
- https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/16
- Compare and contrast query/filter approaches
- Use case review
- AOB
27 Apr 2020
- Minutes
- LinkSmart (WoT Thing Directory Implementation) Discussion Continuation
- https://raw.githubusercontent.com/wiki/linksmart/thing-directory/presentations/thing-directory-wot-call-2020-4-15.pdf
- Questions here... https://www.w3.org/2020/04/15-wot-minutes.html; summary: use case, meta-data, edgeX integration (and integration with other stacks...), ttl, validation with semantic extensions, notification of TD updates, search/filtering mechanism, partial TDs, dids, links for metadata
- TTL: https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/18
- Queries: https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/17
- Capture "Smart Building Energy Efficiency" Use case: https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/481
- WoT Directories returning Partial TDs
- See resolution in 06 Apr 2020 minutes; should it be extended?
- Other PRs and Issues
- AOB
20 Apr 2020
- Guests
- Bosch, Kevin Olotu
- New Members
- Fraunhofer, Shreekantha Devasya, Farshid Tavakolizadeh
- Minutes
- LinkSmart (WoT Thing Directory Implementation) Discussion Continuation
- WoT Directories returning Partial TDs
- See resolution in prev minutes; should it be extended?
- PRs and Issues
- AOB
13 Apr 2020
- Cancelled - Easter Monday
6 Apr 2020
- Guests
- Bosch, Kevin Olotu
- Minutes
- Meeting Schedule
- Easter Monday
- PRs and Issues
- AOB
30 Mar 2020
- Guests
- Bosch, Kevin Olotu
- Minutes
- PRs and Issues
- AOB
23 Mar 2020
- Minutes
- (No call March 9)
- 16 Mar 2020 - Virtual F2F
- Continue discussion on Vorto repository and WoT TDs (with Kevin Olotu, Bosch)
- Vorto presentation from Virtual F2F
- Continue discussion of Conexxus/EdgeX PoC
- Conexxus/EdgeX presentation from Virtual F2F
- Discuss Two-Phase proposal
- PRs and Issues
- AOB
16 Mar 2020
- Guests
- Introduction: Kevin Olotu, Bosch
- Virtual F2F Meeting
9 Mar 2020
- Minutes
- Directories and Queries
- Victor Charpenay - invite to discuss past WoT work
- Location semantics?
- Issues and PRs
- AOB
2 Mar 2020
- Minutes
- Semantic Discovery (Koster)
- One Data Model, Semantic Discovery
- Discovery in Scripting API (Zoltan)
- Comparison to/integration with two-phase proposal
- Use Cases - Brainstorming
- Virtual F2F Planning
- Issues and PRs
- AOB
24 Feb 2020
- Minutes
- Repo reorg
- Issues and PRs
- Review of DID
- Discovery in Scripting API (Zoltan)
- Semantic Discovery (Koster)
- One Data Model, Semantic Discovery
- Use Cases - Brainstorming
- AOB
17 Feb 2020
- Minutes
- Ongoing org
- Discovery_TF wiki page
- Is older material (2015) but should be incorporated into current discussion
- Issues and PRs
- Review of DID
- Registries and resolution
- Use Cases - Brainstorming
- AOB
10 Feb 2020
- IP Policy review for guests
- Organizational logistics
- Planning
- Create wot-discovery repo
- Moving existing proposal and backgrounder to wot-discovery repo
- Use Cases
- Other actions
- Upcoming events
- W3C Web and Networks presentation on edge computing Feb 13
- IETF
- T2TRG Workshop on Friday March 20 prior to IETF
- Helsinki Workshop and F2F in June
- https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_6-11_June_2020,_Helsinki
- T2TRG/WoT will be on Monday June 8
- AOB
