Main WoT WebConf/2019
Agenda
25 Dec 2019
No Meeting - Christmas Day
18 Dec 2019
Chair: McCool/Sebastian
- Quick Updates
- Singapore Govtech PoC/Testbed - Jan call being organized
- WG Charter
- AC review ended today, 17 Dec - appreciate the cooperation of AC Reps and you all
- Proposed Charter on GitHub has been updated based on the AC comments
- 22 supports, 5 suggestions and 3 abstains (Member-only)
- Had to send an agenda request to W3M yesterday but still getting reviews at that time, so asking the W3M for 1-month extension for the current WG Charter
- Will send a notification message regarding the recent changes to all the reviewers, and then ask the W3M to approve the new Charter
- How to deal with minutes from the TF calls?
- Got a comment from AC suggesting sending the TF minutes as well to the public list
- Propose if we do this, only for future minutes, not past minutes
- Proposed REC publication
- static version HTMLs for publication
- Thing Description - JavaScript bug on example 32 has been fixed
- Architecture
- transition requests for Proposed REC sent
- transition call required with W3M - date/time tbd
- Should discuss expected Press Release during the transition call
- Normally do during REC, also may want to wait until WoT WG recharter
- static version HTMLs for publication
- Future F2F Planning - any updates?
- March 2020 - date and host?
- Candidates
- Mozilla: Mountain View (75 people), San Francisco (50), Vancouver (30), Portland (60), Toronto (65), Taipei (25), Berlin (30)
- Siemens: Pune
- Note:
- IETF meeting will be 21-27 March in Vancouver
- there is conference in Taipei in April (https://www2020.thewebconf.org)
- Candidates
- June/July 2020 - date and host?
- Candidates: Helsinki (Intel), there is a ICWE conference in Helsinki (https://icwe2020.webengineering.org/), joint meeting with T2TRG?
- Collaborations: T2TRG, OPC UA
- October 2020 - TPAC in Vancouver
- March 2020 - date and host?
- Status of Binding Templates document?
- Resolution needed for publication?
- Remaining calls this year and first call for the next year?
- Remaining calls:
- Architecture - Dec 19
- No other calls this year - no TD call Dec 20
- Main call - Jan 8
- TF calls
- Security - Jan 13
- Scripting - Jan 13
- Thing Description - Jan 10? Discuss in Jan 8 main call
- Architecture - doodle TBD - week of Jan 6
- Marketing - use Testing/Plugfest slot temporarily, starting Jan 8
- Remaining calls:
- New TFs
- Discovery
- TF Reports
- Marketing
- date/time should be changed to avoid overlap with the Project Reviews - doodle tbd
- Scripting
- Architecture
- doodle poll ongoing to see a better slot
- Security
- Thing Description
- Binding Templates
- Marketing
- AOB?
11 Dec 2019
Chair: McCool/Sebastian
- Quick Updates
- WG Charter
- Deadline: 17 Dec
- Proposed Charter has been updated based on the new Charter template; notification of the change also has been sent to the ACs already reviewed the draft Charter
- 16 supports, 3 suggestions and 1 abstain so far (Member-only)
- please ask your AC to respond!
- need to see the three suggestions and respond
- Proposed REC publication preparation
- static version HTMLs for publication
- transition requests for Proposed REC (URLs TBD) - see also the transition requests repo
- final resolution for PR transitions
- Do we want a Press Release for the RECs?
- Discussion
- Normative interpretation of DataSchema for non-JSON payloads
- Issue: https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/839
- Tentative resolution to only use DataSchema for structured data, not for things like JPEG, etc.
- PR against TD spec is in progress
- Normative interpretation of DataSchema for non-JSON payloads
- Future F2F Planning - any updates?
- March 2020 - date and host?
- Candidates
- Mozilla: Mountain View (75 people), San Francisco (50), Vancouver (30), Portland (60), Toronto (65), Taipei (25), Berlin (30)
- Siemens: Pune
- Note:
- IETF meeting will be 21-27 March in Vancouver
- there is conference in Taipei in April (https://www2020.thewebconf.org)
- Candidates
- June/July 2020 - date and host?
- Candidates: Helsinki (Intel), there is a ICWE conference in Helsinki (https://icwe2020.webengineering.org/), joint meeting with T2TRG?
- Collaborations: T2TRG, OPC UA
- October 2020 - TPAC in Vancouver
- March 2020 - date and host?
- TF Reports
- Marketing
- date/time should be changed to avoid overlap with the Project Reviews
- Scripting
- Architecture
- doodle poll ongoing to see a better slot
- Security
- Thing Description
- Binding Templates
- Marketing
- AOB?
4 Dec 2019
Chair: Sebastian/McCool
- Quick updates
- Joint call with eCl@ss
- Markus Reigl, Siemens
- Christian Block, eCl@ss Office
- WG Charter
- Deadline: 17 Dec
- Proposed Charter updated based on the discussion last week; see also PR910 and PR911
- 11 supports, 1 suggestion and 1 abstain so far (Member-only)
- please ask your AC to respond!
- PR Resolutions
- CR2 period is now over - are we ready for a resolution?
- Final deadline is close...
- Future F2F Planning - any updates?
- March 2020 - date and host?
- Candidates
- Mozilla: Mountain View (75 people), San Francisco (50), Vancouver (30), Portland (60), Toronto (65), Taipei (25), Berlin (30)
- Siemens: Pune
- Note:
- IETF meeting will be 21-27 March in Vancouver
- there is conference in Taipei in April (https://www2020.thewebconf.org)
- Candidates
- June/July 2020 - date and host?
- Candidates: Helsinki (Intel), there is a ICWE conference in Helsinki (https://icwe2020.webengineering.org/), joint meeting with T2TRG?
- Collaborations: T2TRG, OPC UA
- October 2020 - TPAC in Vancouver
- March 2020 - date and host?
- TF Reports
- Marketing
- WG page and IG page can be updated by the WoT WG/IG, but need to continue discussion with the MarComm Team about the WoT Landing page
- do resolution about making decisions in the marketing TF
- discussion about next web meetings
- Scripting
- Architecture
- Security
- Thing Description
- Binding Templates
- Marketing
- AOB?
27 Nov 2019
Note: US Thanksgiving is Nov 29
Chair: Sebastian
Regrets: McCool
- Quick updates
- members from eCl@ss will join next week main call (also see https://www.eclass.eu/en.html)
- Joint call with the Media and Entertainment IG
- joint call will be postponed to begin of 2020
- asking the MEIG participants about their availability using doodle poll
- Technical viewpoints:
- WoT side: (1) TV as an edge device for WoT and (2) video stream data for WoT
- ME side: (1) Event handling and (2) Time synchronization (possibly based on frame-by-frame accuracy)
- Possible presentations from WoT: WoT in general, expected future use cases, existing products, PlugFest effort
- WG Charter
- Proposed Charter
- 8 supports and 1 abstain so far (Member-only)
- please ask your AC to respond!
- need to watch out for US Thanksgiving (Nov 29) and Christmas (Dec 25)
- Future F2F Planning - any updates?
- March 2020 - date and host?
- Candidates: London (Mozilla), Pune (Siemens), Taipei (in April)
- June/July 2020 - date and host?
- Candidates: Helsinki (Intel), there is a ICWE conference in Helsinki (https://icwe2020.webengineering.org/), joint meeting with T2TRG?
- Candidates: Helsinki (Intel), London (Mozilla), Pune (Siemens)
- Collaborations: T2TRG, OPC UA
- October 2020 - TPAC in Vancouver
- IETF meeting will be 21-27 March in Vancouver
- there is conference in Taipei in April (https://www2020.thewebconf.org)
- March 2020 - date and host?
- TF Reports
- Marketing
- Sebastian received response from Coralie --> there are no plans for providing common group designs
- Sebastian asked if there is any objection if we start to have own new design for the WoT group space
- Scripting
- Architecture
- Security
- Thing Description
- who would be available on Friday?
- Binding Templates
- Marketing
- AOB?
20 Nov 2019
Chair: Kaz
Regrets: Sebastian/McCool
- Quick updates
- Feedback from the IRTF workshop (Nov. 15) and the IETF hackathon (Nov. 16-17) - Toumura-san?
- WoT/T2TRG Workshop
- IETF Hackathon (w/ T2TRG)
- Joint call with the Media and Entertainment IG
- MEIG would like to use the Dec-3 call for media-related topics from TPAC.
- doodle poll to collect people's availability for alternative slots. - Please respond! (to be sent to the MEIG guys as well)
- possible topics: WoT in general, expected future use cases, existing products, PlugFest effort
- Feedback from the IRTF workshop (Nov. 15) and the IETF hackathon (Nov. 16-17) - Toumura-san?
- WG Charter
- Proposed Charter
- sent out to the AC Review - Please ask your AC Reps to vote!
- need to watch out for US Thanksgiving (Nov 29) and Christmas (Dec 25)
- So far 4 supports (Member-only)
- Presentation by Lucas Bonvin
- Future F2F Planning - any preference/constraints?
- March 2020 - date and host?
- June/July 2020 - date and host?
- Candidates: Helsinki (Intel), London (Mozilla), Pune (Siemens), there is a ICWE conference in Helsinki (https://icwe2020.webengineering.org/)
- Collaborations: T2TRG, OPC UA
- October 2020 - TPAC in Vancouver
- TF Reports
- Marketing
- Scripting
- Architecture
- Security
- Thing Description
- Binding Templates
- AOB?
13 Nov 2019
Chair: Sebastian/McCool
- Quick updates
- Japanese member's meeting Nov 11, 2019
- Update on remote collaboration with the IRTF workshop (Nov. 15) and the IETF hackathon (Nov. 16-17) - 9am Singapore (SGT) is 10am JST / 3am EET / 2am CET / 8pm-1d EST / 5pm-1d PST
- WoT/T2TRG Workshop
- IETF Hackathon (w/ T2TRG)
- T2TRG Hackathon page
- T2TRG Jitsi connection
- IETF Hackathon Registration required
- Presentation and plugfest goals and participation
- Proposed topics
- Joint call with the Media and Entertainment IG
- Originally proposed for Dec. 3
- as discussed during TPAC
- to be postponed until January or February?
- Kaz has created a doodle poll to collect people's availability. - Please respond!
- still need speakers - possible topics: WoT in general, expected future use cases, existing products, PlugFest effort
- WG Charter
- Draft Charter
- under review by W3M - got a feedback from Alan Bird, and another possible feedback today
- IF and ONLY IF there are substantive issues to address:
- will have Charter call tomorrow at 9pm Japan Time
- will send out WebEx etc by email, draft available for review by Friday
- will still seek publication on Nov 20
- will probably go out for AC review by Nov 20, then we have 1 month to get 20 AC votes
- need to watch out for US Thanksgiving (Nov 29) and Christmas (Dec 25)
- Interest from Academics
- Discussed general policy during the prev call
- when to invite Lucas Bonvin?
- Future F2F Planning
- March 2020 - date and host?
- June/July 2020 - date and host?
- Candidates: Helsinki (Intel), London (Mozilla), Pune (Siemens), there is a ICWE conference in Helsinki (https://icwe2020.webengineering.org/)
- Collaborations: T2TRG, OPC UA
- October 2020 - TPAC in Vancouver
- TF Reports
- Marketing
- Kaz has installed Ege's generated Issue template to the wot-marketing repo
- Scripting
- Architecture
- Security
- Thing Description
- Binding Templates
- Marketing
- AOB?
6 Nov 2019
Chair: McCool
- Quick updates
- Meeting Schedule and events for 2019
- New Security Call slot?
- Had discussion during the Security call on Nov. 5
- Decided to go back to the original Security slot:
- Mondays, 5am PST / 8am EST / 2pm CET / 3pm EET / 10pm JST
- Kaz has allocated a new WebEx and has sent the coordinate out to the group emails
- Link to webex message is posted on WoT Security Wiki
- Update on remote collaboration with the IRTF workshop (Nov. 15) and the IETF hackathon (Nov. 16-17)
- Agenda available
- Workshop Registration required - Nov 1 deadline
- IETF Hackathon Registration required
- Presentation and plugfest goals and participation
- Proposed topics
- Joint call with the Media and Entertainment IG on Dec. 3
- as discussed during TPAC
- to be postponed until January or February?
- still need speakers - possible topics: WoT in general, expected future use cases, existing products, PlugFest effort
- Report from the W3C Workshop on Data Models for Transportation - Taki
- WG Charter
- Draft Charter
- under review by W3M - possible feedback today or next Wednesday
- will probably go out for AC review by Nov 20...
- ...then we have 1 month to get 20 AC votes
- need to watch out for US Thanksgiving (Nov 29) and Christmas (Dec 25)
- Publication status
- Got approval for Architecture transition request and TD transition request
- Kaz has published these documents using Echidna today (Nov. 6):
- Interest from Academics
- e.g. recent inquiry from Lucas Bonvin
- Invite to participate?
- Possible presentation during the main call or the plugfest call?
- Discuss general policy...
- Future F2F Planning
- March 2020
- June/July 2020
- TF Reports
- Marketing
- Scripting
- Architecture
- Security
- Thing Description
- Binding Templates
- AOB?
30 Oct 2019
Chair: McCool/Sebastian
- Quick updates
- New Security Call slot?
- Doodle - no perfect time in the end.
- Proposal: 3:00pm (JT) Tuesday, starting Nov 5 (well... 4:00pm after daylight savings change!)
- Yet another reminder: Daylight Saving Time change
- All calls are booked relative to Eastern (Boston) Time.
- this week, after Sunday Oct 27, the calls will start one hour earlier in Europe (no change in US or Japan)
- next week and later, after Sunday Nov 3, the calls will start one hour later in Japan (no change in US; go back to usual time in Europe)
- See http://www.webexhibits.org/daylightsaving/b.html
- Update on possible collaboration with the IRTF workshop (Nov. 15) and the IETF hackathon (Nov. 16-17)
- Agenda available
- Workshop Registration required - Nov 1 deadline
- IETF Hackathon Registration required
- Presentation and plugfest goals and participation
- Joint call with the Media and Entertainment IG on Dec. 3
- as discussed during TPAC
- who to talk about what? - possibly: WoT in general, expected future use cases, existing products, PlugFest effort
- New Security Call slot?
- WG Charter - sent to W3M on Oct 25
- Draft Charter
- W3M discussion today (Oct 30) - Kaz need to move to the W3M call for a while
- CR2 publication - Transition requests submitted; pinged Ralph yesterday (Oct. 29)
- Architecture
- TD - a comment from Ralph and response from Kaz
- Other publications
- Scripting API - updated WD published
- Security and Privacy Guidelines - Draft ready for publication
- TF Reports
- Marketing
- Scripting
- Architecture
- Security
- Thing Description
- Binding Templates
- Other Business
- Interest from Academic - Invite to participate?
23 Oct 2019
Chair: McCool
- Quick updates
- Oliver Pfaff - Introduction
- New calls
- WG Charter Call - Thursday at 7am US Eastern / 1pm Europe / 8pm Japan
- Marketing Call - Thursdays at 9am US Eastern / 3pm Europe / 10pm Japan
- Security Call (TBD)
- Doodle - no good time, and so asking people again about availability with a bit wider candidate slots
- Daylight Saving Time change
- All calls are booked relative to Eastern (Boston) Time.
- next week, after Sunday Oct 27, the calls will start one hour earlier in Europe (no change in US or Japan)
- in two weeks and later, after Sunday Nov 3, the calls will start one hour later in Japan (no change in US; go back to usual time in Europe)
- See http://www.webexhibits.org/daylightsaving/b.html
- Update on possible collaboration with the IRTF workshop (Nov. 15) and the IETF hackathon (Nov. 16-17)
- Agenda available
- Workshop Registration required
- IETF Hackathon Registration required
- Presentation and plugfest goals and participation
- Brief report from the Project Review call with TAG - Minutes
- IG charter - Congrats!
- updated IG has been approved and AC announcement sent out - Forwarded anouncement
- CR2 publication status - Transition requests submitted
- Architecture
- TD
- Patch reviews
- WG Charter - should conclude at the next call on Oct 24, and then send it to W3M on Oct 25
- Scripting next steps (Zoltan) - ???
- TF Reports
- Marketing
- Scripting
- Architecture
- Security
- Thing Description
- Binding Templates
16 Oct 2019
Chair: McCool
- Quick updates
- Singapore F2F has been cancelled (member-only) - still should think about the possible remote participation in the IRTF workshop and the IETF hackathon
- TPAC minutes
- finalize the f2f minutes
- slide sets to be installed on the TPAC f2f area of the GitHub repo
- summary slides can be copied to the main PRESENTATIONS area
- New calls
- WG Charter Call - Thursday at 7am US Eastern / 1pm Europe / 8pm Japan
- Marketing Call - Thursdays at 9am US Eastern / 3pm Europe / 10pm Japan
- Security Call (TBD) - Doodle ongoing
- IG charter AC review
- Voting ended Oct 11: 24 supporters with one suggestion to add the Web&Networks IG to section "4.1 W3C Groups"
- PR to address the suggestion - to be merged
- asking the W3M for approval
- Privacy: Feedback from PLH (Member-only)
- TD update: TD Issues TD PRs
- Architecture: update Architecture Issues Architecture PRs
- Making terminology sections informative?
- Updated privacy risks and mitigations
- Updated timeline
- CR2 Process
- Release candidates available Oct 18 for Arch and TD
- If no objections, then CR2 transition will take place Oct 21 at 11:59pm JST (11am EDT)
- Scripting next steps (Zoltan) - ???
- TF Reports
- Marketing
- Scripting
- Architecture
- Security
- Thing Description
- Binding Templates
9 Oct 2019
Chair: McCool
- Quick updates
- Singapore logistics
- Status of the IG charter AC review
- Voting ends Oct 11
- 21 supporters so far. Thanks a lot for your collaboration!
- Privacy
- Meeting report
- Schedule
- Charter Call
- Pending issues and PRs
- Marketing Call time
- Doodle
- Thurs 10pm (JST), although Kaz may have a monthly W3C conflict
- Security Call time
- Scripting next steps (Zoltan) - 30mins
- Review and update Use Cases and Requirements
- Possible next work items and use cases:
- "TD API" (current) vs "Simple API" or "No API" options
- SW Deployment model (e.g. WASM?)
- Linkable SW modules? Dependency management (modules, Things?)
- Management API: device/SW module lifecycle etc.
- TF Reports
- Marketing
- Scripting
- Architecture
- Security
- Thing Description
- Binding Templates
2 Oct 2019
Chair: McCool
- Quick updates
- Singapore logistics
- IG charter review
- Voting ends Oct 11
- Only 8 supporters so far! Need 20...
- Still missing many votes from active WG members
- Remind your AC rep
- Privacy
- Marketing TF meeting time
- Problem: Marcom conflict
- Proposal: keep current call until WG Charter done, then use that slot (8pm Thursday)
- Initial Website sketch (see here)
- Web Things Protocol CG Charter (proposal) (Francis)
- Scripting next steps (Zoltan)
- Review and update Use Cases and Requirements
- Possible next work items and use cases:
- "TD API" (current) vs "Simple API" or "No API" options
- SW Deployment model (e.g. WASM?)
- Linkable SW modules? Dependency management (modules, Things?)
- Management API: device/SW module lifecycle etc.
- TF Reports
- Marketing
- Scripting
- Architecture
- Security
- Thing Description
- Binding Templates
25 Sept 2019
Chair: McCool/Sebastian
- Quick updates
- Singapore logistics
- Chair/Editors' call
- IG charter review
- Need more supporters - ask your AC rep!
- T2TRG Workshop Agenda
- WoT Proposals
- Discovery
- TD HATEOS - Complex Interactions - RESTful Actions & Events
- Protocol Bindings - CoAP vocab
- Scripting and Management API
- Next mtg: Thursday Oct 3
- WoT Proposals
- TPAC Followup
- TPAC minutes (draft)
- Marketing TF
- Call on Monday at 8am Eastern; wiki/webex in progress
- Group Liaisons
- Decentralized ID WG (McCool/Ezell)
- SSI for IoT Task Force of the Sovrin Governance Framework Working Group
- Edge Computing (Web and Networks IG) (McCool/Matthias)
- Privacy IG (McCool/Elena)
- JSON-LD 1.1 WG (Sebastian/Victor)
- Media and Entertainment IG (Kaz)
- Joint call Dec 3rd
- Accessibility IG (McCool/Kaz)
- Decentralized ID WG (McCool/Ezell)
- Presentations
- Check for "TBD" in minutes for missing slides
- Normative Privacy
- CR update deadline: mid-October
- Need strawman proposal... proposed changes to Arch and TD
- Need reference for requirements (McCool to ask Sam Weiler)
- Call Tuesday 7am Eastern - see email for confirmation and webex
- WG Charter Updates
- New Topics (PRs needed)
- Timeline change
- Call next week? Webex already set up for Thursday at 7am Eastern
- Web Things Protocol CG Charter (proposal) (Francis)
- Scripting next steps (Zoltan)
- Review and update Use Cases and Requirements
- Possible next work items and use cases:
- "TD API" (current) vs "Simple API" or "No API" options
- SW Deployment model (e.g. WASM?)
- Linkable SW modules? Dependency management (modules, Things?)
- Management API: device/SW module lifecycle etc.
- AOB
11 Sept 2019
Chair: McCool
- Quick updates
- IG Charter Extension and Update
- Taki to present at Transportation and Data Model W3C Workshop in Palo Alto
- Resolutions
- Publish updated working draft of Scripting API
- Publish update to Security and Privacy Considerations/Guidelines (as Note)
- Marketing
- F2F Logistics
- Call schedule
- the rest of this week
- next week
- Registrants and Observer Requests
- Demo Logistics
- Demo/breakout format
- Plugfest preparation registration
- Breakout session proposal (TBD)
- Demo session (to be updated)
- Call schedule
- F2F Agenda
- Topics
- Constraints
- Lunchtime at 12 noon to 1 pm
- Observers and Joint Meetings
- TF Reports
- Thing Description
- Binding Templates
- Architecture
- Security
- New time: 7pm (Japan Time) Monday
- Scripting
- AOB
4 Sept 2019
Chair: McCool
- Quick updates
- 13-17 November, Singapore
- Discovery draft in progress...
- IG Charter discussed today in W3M
- PR Transitions
- Process
- Schedule
- WG Charter
- F2F Logistics
- 16-20 September, Fukuoka
- Registrants and Observer Requests
- Demo
- F2F Agenda
- Topics
- Constraints
- Observers and Joint Meetings
- Online Plugfest - Sept 10
- Doodle for time
- Proposal: 4pm-7pm JT, 9am-12am CEST
- TF Reports
- Thing Description
- Binding Templates
- Architecture
- Security
- New time: 7pm (Japan Time) Monday
- Scripting
- AOB
28 Aug 2019
Chair: McCool
- Quick updates
- Seeking vector versions of WoT Logo
- IG Charter Draft
- Accessibility WoT PR854 (Rendered)
- Internationalization WoT PR855 (Rendered)
- Call for resolution: Submit to W3M?
- WG Charter Draft
- F2F and Plugfest Logistics
- Online Plugfest
- Profiles (Lagally)
- TF Reports
- Thing Description
- Binding Templates
- Architecture
- Security
- AOB
21 Aug 2019
Chair: McCool
- Quick updates
- Online PlugFest
- Mozilla has confirmed 29 Aug 2019, but others can't make it
- Doodle to pick date
- Demo logistics
- Wednesday schedule
- breakout session proposal
- Demo session
- Registration site for weekend prep at Fujitsu (Sunday Sept 15): TBD
- PR preview setting for GitHub
- Online PlugFest
- IG Charter Feedback
- TAG Feedback response
- SDF and One Data Model (Koster)
- F2F Planning
- TF Reports
- Thing Description and Binding Templates
- Architecture
- Security
- AOB
14 Aug 2019
Chair: McCool
- Quick updates
- Conexxus Strategy Conference
- Convenience stores and gas stations in North America
- Currently working on updating data models, considering SDF/WoT TDs/OpenAPI
- WoT status and roadmap presentation given by McCool Aug 13
- Conexxus members have joined WoT and will be attending main call next week
- Online PlugFest: 29 Aug 2019
- Mozilla has confirmed
- Kaz to set up doodle to pick time
- Mozilla to ship HW (to McCool) for demo at TPAC
- Report from TAG meeting
- WoT: Improve explainer use cases, design decisions
- TAG: Update github issues
- Conexxus Strategy Conference
- TPAC Planning
- Agenda
- IG Re-Charter
- TODO: Chair selection
- Resolution to submit
- Next F2F: IETF106 Singapore
- McCool is in contact with Carsten Bormann, Barry Leiba, and Kathy Giori...
- F2F Nov 13-14, T2TRG Workshop Nov 15, IETF Hackathon/WoT plugfest Nov 16-17
- SDF and One Data Model (Koster)
- TF Reports
- Thing Description
- Binding Templates
- Architecture
- Security
- AOB
7 Aug 2019
Chair: Matthias
- Quick updates
- PR transition feedback, TAG
- Mozilla collab
- Workshop report
- Future agendas
- e@Class, SDF, profiles...
- F2F Logistics
- TPAC2019 in Fukuoka
- F2F topics and agenda
- WG charter, PR transitions
- F2F topics and agenda
- Next plugfest/F2F
- online plugfest, incl. Mozilla; date?
- co-locate with IETF106 in Singapore?
- co-locate with IETF107 in Vancouver?
- TPAC2019 in Fukuoka
- TF Reports
- Thing Description
- Binding Templates
- Architecture
- Security
- AOB
31 July 2019
- Quick updates
- IG Charter updates
- Review feedback
- Report on Privacy meeting (Weiler:McCool) at IETF105
- TAG meeting rescheduled to Aug 8
- TF Reports
- Thing Description
- Binding Templates
- WG Charter
- F2F planning and logistics
- Plugfest discussion
- Online plugfests/testfests
- TPAC plugfest
- Future: IETF Hackathons
- IETF106: Singapore, November 16-17, 2019
- IETF107: Vancouver, March 21-22, 2020
- AOB
24 July 2019
- Quick updates
- Michael/Matthias presenting WoT update to WISHI at IETF105
- Discussion within W3 Staff regarding how to manage wide reviews
- Tutorial session being planned
- Can fix the mintues from WS and F2F?
- WS minutes
- F2F minutes
- working on the workshop report with Lagally and Sebastian
- IG Charter
- Wendy's comments
- add links to supplementary documents like the Explainer?
- Alan's comments
- Wendy's comments
- WG Charter
- Matthias' slides as the starting point
- Lagally's slides on Profile proposal
- TAG and PING
- joint call with TAG postponed - next candidate is August 8
- expected call with PING tbd
- Spec status
- Demo prep
- detailed discussion during the PlugFest call
- demo prep schedule
- Demo page
- logistics information to be reorganized
17 July 2019
- Quick updates
- TPAC registration and hotel reservation
- IETF105 Montreal July 20-27
- Clean-up: "architecture" and "proposals" moved to "ARCHIVE"
- Conexxus strategy conference: McCool speaking August 13
- Minutes
- Review Feedback
- TPAC/WoT F2F Planning
- Next IG Charter
- Next WG Charter
- Profile discussion
- TF Reports
- Security
- Thing Description
- Architecture
- Scripting
- AOB
10 July 2019
- Quick updates
- Reminder of TPAC registration and hotel reservation
- Registration: https://www.w3.org/2019/09/TPAC/registration.html
- Early bird rate is over, standard rate until August 31.
- Hotel reservation: https://www.w3.org/2019/09/TPAC/travel.html
- Registration: https://www.w3.org/2019/09/TPAC/registration.html
- W3C Data Models for Transportation Workshop
- 12-13 Sept, Palo Alto
- Deadline extended to Friday, July 12: https://www.w3.org/auto/events/data-ws-2019/cfp.html#call-for-participation
- IETF105 Montreal July 20-27: https://www.ietf.org/how/meetings/105/
- WISHI, Hackathon, etc.
- Michael McCool and Michael Koster attending
- WISHI/OMA-Specworks mtg Friday, July 19th
- Reminder of TPAC registration and hotel reservation
- Web presence clean-up
- https://w3c.github.io/wot/proposals/json-td/ showing "W3C Editor's Draft 08 July 2019"
- Charter Extensions
- 6mo extension to WG approved (to Dec 31, 2019)
- IG charter still under review, some feedback: https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/835
- Review Feedback
- Still waiting for official TAG and PING reviews
- TPAC Planning
- Next WG Charter
- restarted the discussion based on Matthias' summary slides last week
- continue the discussion based on Lagally's dependency diagram
- Profiles
- Joint Oracle-Smart Things proposal on "core" profile.
- TF Reports
- Security
- Thing Description
- Architecture
- Scripting
- AOB
Note: Demo preparation planning to take place in "plugfest" call.
3 July 2019
- Quick updates
- Reminder of TPAC registration and hotel reservation
- Registration: https://www.w3.org/2019/09/TPAC/registration.html
- Hotel reservation: https://www.w3.org/2019/09/TPAC/travel.html
- Note: The room rate might be more expensive than 13,000 JPY depending on your schedule. In that case, please contact the hotel via telephone at +81-92-8448111.
- IoT World 2020 (12-13 March 2020)
- W3C Data Models for Transportation Workshop
- 12-13 Sept, Palo Alto; deadline is July 8.
- Reminder of TPAC registration and hotel reservation
- Spec status
- No responses from TAG or PING - Kaz to send yet another reminder
- Other security reviews (Intel and Siemens?)
- Security TF to work on security aspects and possible PRs on Monday
- Wrapping up Current Charter
- Timeline for completion
- Kaz talked with PLH; W3M discussion again today on July 3
- Other publications
- Binding Templates
- Scripting API
- Security and Privacy Guidelines
- Minutes, slides, etc. from the Workshop and F2F
- Still ongoing (including the final participants list of the Workshop) - sorry for the delay
- Workshop pages fixed
- TPAC demo logistics
- Preparation - please let us know about your preference by visiting the F2F wiki
- Demo during the Plenary Day on September 18
- Restricted to 2 hours at max in the afternoon due to the sponsorship policy
- First hour: one-hour breakout slot
- PM1 session starting at 1pm? Looking for a slot with time for setup before...
- Second hour: additional one-hour demo slot (with only one table)
- Proposed IG Charter
- W3M comments from Alan Bird (Member-only)
- Next WG Charter
- restarted the discussion based on Matthias' summary slides last week
- continue the discussion based on Lagally's dependency diagram
- Profiles
- Joint Oracle-Smart Things proposal on "core" profile.
26 June 2019
- Quick updates
- Reminder of TPAC registration and hotel reservation
- Registration: https://www.w3.org/2019/09/TPAC/registration.html
- Hotel reservation: https://www.w3.org/2019/09/TPAC/travel.html (The online booking link is tentatively unavailable now. sorry)
- Conexxus talk in Toronto on Aug 13: McCool
- IETF Hackathon on IoT Semantics (Wishi) in Montreal on July 20-21: McCool, Koster
- Reminder of TPAC registration and hotel reservation
- Spec status - comments from TAG and PING
- TAG will discuss Dave Barron's comment during their call today
- Asking PING for comments with the deadline of tomorrow, June 27
- Planning to meet Friday (during TD call) to prepare a coordinated response
- Security TF to work on security aspects and possible PRs on Monday
- Will finalize responses to TAG and PING for both Arch and TD by next main call
- Please don't post "personal" responses in the meantime...
- Wrapping up Current Charter
- Timeline for completion
- Jeff suggests we ask W3M for extension, so now asking W3M about that
- Other security reviews (Intel and Siemens?)
- Other publications
- Binding Templates
- Scripting API
- Security and Privacy Guidelines
- Minutes, slides, etc. from the Workshop and F2F
- Ongoing (including the final participants list of the Workshop) - sorry for the delay
- Workshop pages broken and to be fixed
- TPAC demo logistics
- Preparation
- option a: at the W3C Team staff room with restricted time on Mon/Tue
- option b: somewhere else at the Member companies during weekend
- option c: lobby
- Demo during the Plenary Day on September 18
- Restricted to 2 hours at max in the afternoon due to the sponsorship policy
- First hour: one-hour breakout slot
- PM1 session starting at 1pm? Looking for a slot with time for setup before...
- Second hour: additional one-hour demo slot (with only one table)
- Preparation
- Next WG Charter
- Should restart the discussion based on Matthias' summary slides
19 June 2019
- Quick Updates
- PR Transition
- Critical Issues
- unobserveproperty (blocker!) -- Ege on it
- proxy within SecurityScheme (at-risk but important) -- Matthias will verify node-wot, which has an implementation
- Open Issues Architecture
- 3 minor PRs -- Lagally merge?
- Open Issues TD
- Changelog
- Wrong caption for Figure 2 (JSON Schema instead of Data Schema)
- Default values checkbox for full examples
- Ontology files
- Text forms with array attributes (same as links, e.g., when multiple rel attributes)
- TD Processer MUST parse AND serialize
- Implementation descriptions (update here)
- Remove unimplemented at-risk features from spec
- Digest QoP -- but keep DigestSecurityScheme
- OAuth2 flows except code -- but keep OAuth2SecurityScheme!
- PoPSecurityScheme
- PSKSecurityScheme -- later with CoAPS vocab
- CertSecurityScheme -- later with CoAPS vocab
- PublicSecurityScheme -- later with CoAPS vocab
- Resolutions
- Proposal: PR WoT Arch
- Proposal: PR WoT TD
- Proposal: WG Note WoT Security
- Critical Issues
- AoB
12 June 2019
- Quick Updates
- Information for TPAC
- Privacy IG review
- Implementation Report
- Report generation pipeline
- Missing critical feature reports
- Missing at-risk feature reports
- PR transition
- WoT Architecture issues and editorial updates
- WoT Thing Description issues and editorial updates
- Resolution on 19 June 2019
29 May 2019
- Quick Updates
- Chair call confirmation for IG and WG
- Workshop
- F2F Logistics
- IG Charter
- PR Publication Tasks
- TD Updates: TD-PR757 TD-PR751
- Testing results
- TAG Reviews
- Security Reviews - requested for June 12
- Update Deliverables
- Proposed Resolutions:
- Rename Security and Privacy Considerations to Security and Privacy Guidelines (WG)
- Remove Test Cases from WG Deliverables; will be documented as part of TD Implementation Report
- Add Security Testing Plan to the Security and Privacy Guidelines and include in update.
- Hold Security Best Practices until the new IG charter.
- Proposed Resolutions:
- Marketing
- IG page needs update
- Entry page needs update
- Task Force Reports
- WoT Thing Description
- WoT Architecture
- WoT Binding Templates
- WoT Scripting API
- WoT Security
- AOB
22 May 2019
- Quick Updates
- IIC Member's Meeting, May 20-26, Cork Ireland
- Intel IoT DevFest IV proposal accepted - June 17, online
- Charter
- IG charter resolution
- WG charter
- PR Publication Tasks
- Update TDs for test report!
- Created PR for draft Implementation Report to update most TDs so they validate...
- BUT technically these updates need to be submitted/confirmed by implementers.
- TAG Review
- Security review
- Requests for external reviewers via IIC and Intel done
- Additional reviewers would be welcome
- Have given deadline of June 10 for comments
- Test Cases and Report (schedule)
- Reconfirm list of deliverables
- Name change of Security and Privacy Considerations/Guidelines?
- Update TDs for test report!
- Workshop and Demos
- F2F Logistics
- Marketing
- WG page is up-to-date
- IG page needs update
- Entry page needs update
- Other material?
- Task Force Updates
- WoT Thing Description
- WoT Architecture
- WoT Binding Templates
- WoT Scripting API
- WoT Security
- AOB
15 May 2019
- Quick Updates
- Automotive WG
- Sebastian gave update 05.13
- IoT Week (17-21 June in Denmark)
- See email, speaker request
- Intel Global IoT DevFest IV (online web conference)
- McCool to submit abstract and present WoT update, post-workshop
- IIC Member's Meeting, May 20-26, Cork Ireland
- McCool attending
- EU Project applying WoT to Elderly needs
- GATEKEEPER - Dave Raggett, Madrid
- Automotive WG
- CR Transition Confirmation Resolutions
- WoT Architecture
- WoT Thing Description
- CR Publication Tasks
- Spell checking, ReSpec fixes, link checking, etc...
- Post-CR Activities and Schedule
- How updates can be done, which ones are valid, process
- Testing updates, priorities, and schedule
- Security review
- PR transition schedule and requirements
- Workshop, Demos, and F2F Logistics
- F2F Wiki: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_6-7_June_2019,_Munich,_Germany
- Demos
- TUM on weekend before WS for demo testing/plugfest
- Registration page
- Charter
- IG
- WG
- Marketing
- Web page update
- TPAC
- Task Force Updates
- WoT Thing Description
- WoT Architecture
- WoT Binding Templates
- WoT Scripting API
- WoT Security
- AOB
8 May 2019
- Quick Updates
- Namespace discussion with Ralph Swick and decision
- Minutes of April 24 mtg: https://github.com/w3ctag/meetings/blob/gh-pages/2019/telcons/04-24-minutes.md
- CR Transition Resolutions
- WoT Architecture
- WoT Thing Description
- Workshop Logistics
- Wiki: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_6-7_June_2019,_Munich,_Germany
- TUM on weekend before WS for demo testing/plugfest?
- Registration page for F2F?
- Task Force Updates
- WoT Thing Description
- WoT Architecture
- WoT Binding Templates
- WoT Scripting API
- WoT Security
- AOB
1 May 2019
- Cancelled due to holiday
24 April 2019
- Quick Updates
- TAG telecon postponed until May 8
- We are talking to W3M to see what our options are...
- Feedback from Internationalization group
- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-wg/2019Apr/0029.html
- Default language identification
- Self-review form
- TAG telecon postponed until May 8
- Workshop Logistics
- Reviews
- F2F Planning: June 6-7
- Demo planning: in "Plugfest" meeting...
- Rechairing
- Rechartering of IG and WG
- Timing
- Chair selection process
- Marketing
- Text on web page(s) needs to be revised
- Task Force Updates
- WoT Thing Description
- media type/namespace => call with PLH/Ralph in planning
- https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/357
- WoT Architecture
- WoT Binding Templates
- WoT Scripting API
- WoT Security
- WoT Thing Description
- AOB
17 Apr 2019
- Quick Updates
- TAG telecon postponed until April 24
- Other wide reviews: sent requests to a11y, i18n, json-ld
- Workshop
- First PC call April 15
- Next call April 23rd due to German holiday
- Possible F2F before or after workshop?
- Maybe at TUM (Ege)
- But... Japanese members can't come May 31
- After (June 6-7) lets us do followup from workshop
- PR Transition is June 11; but no spec changes, but testing report
- Maybe at TUM (Ege)
- Demo
- Setup/plugfest possible at Siemens Friday before
- Planning - plugfest call, starting today
- Preparation (weekend before?)
- First PC call April 15
- Recharter
- How to select chairs?
- TPAC F2F Planning
- Will be Thurs/Fri due to conflict with Media and Entertainment
- Demo session on Wed (but no setup during the weekend)
- Can we get access for network testing on Mon or Tues (night?)
- Need to consider Plugfest and F2F
- Possible Panasonic location...
- TF updates
- WoT Thing Description
- media type/namespace => dedicated call with PLH/Ralph
- https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/357
- WoT Architecture
- Terminology and section 6 update
- https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/355
- WoT Binding Templates
- WoT Scripting API
- Review of updated proposal (20m)
- WoT Security
- WoT Thing Description
- AOB
10 Apr 2019
- Quick Updates
- WoT Summary Pres at AC Meeting
- No Testing call today
- Workshop
- TAG Reviews
- TAG Telecon scheduled for 04-17
- TF updates
- WoT Thing Description
- WoT Architecture
- WoT Binding Templates
- WoT Scripting API
- WoT Security
- Demo Scenarios
- AOB
3 Apr 2019
- Quick Updates
- Reviews
- Wide review
- JSON-LD
- Internationalization
- Accessibility
- IETF
- Tag
- Wide review
- W3C WoT Workshop
- TF updates
- WoT Architecture
- Will be a call tomorrow to prepare PRs
- WoT Thing Description
- Testing update (no Testing call today)
- WoT Binding Templates
- WoT Scripting API
- WoT Security
- WoT Architecture
- AOB
27 Mar 2019
- Quick Updates
- TAG Review
- WoT Architecture
- WoT Thing Description
- Requested results by Friday April 5, need to do CR on Tuesday April 8
- So any updates need to happen over the weekend, and be confirmed by TAG on Monday April 7!
- Also this is during the AC Meeting
- Wide Review
- Requests for external security reviews sent
- Security and Privacy Questionnaire responses updated
- Rechartering
- Selection of chairs
- Charters (both IG and WG)
- Workshop
- Doodle poll results for Workshop PC members
- Tentatively Monday 10pm JT - Start Monday April 1
- Workshop deadline is April 15
- Submission Instructions
- Doodle poll results for Workshop PC members
- One Data Model
- TF updates
- WoT Architecture
- Will be a call tomorrow to prepare PRs
- WoT Thing Description
- Testing update (no Testing call today)
- WoT Binding Templates
- WoT Scripting API
- WoT Security
- WoT Architecture
- AOB
20 Mar 2019
- Quick Updates
- Doodle poll for Workshop PC members
- One Data Model update
- Preparation for CR Transition
- Schedule: See above
- TD to TAG by March 22
- Arch to TAG by March 25
- Wide review formal input - signoff
- Schedule: See above
- TF updates
- WoT Architecture
- WoT Runtime definition
- See https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/130
- Schedule extra meetings so can hit March 25 deadline?
- WoT Thing Description
- JSON-LD 1.1 Acceptance of Required Features; resolves WR
- Kaz's message (member-only)
- How to update TD spec?
- JSON-LD 1.1 Acceptance of Required Features; resolves WR
- WoT Binding Templates
- WoT Scripting API
- WoT Security
- Cross-alliance IoT Baseline Security Workshop
- WoT Architecture
- AOB
13 Mar 2019
- Quick Updates
- Workshop CFP
- Watch out for Daylight Savings changes! (see below, EU changes pending)
- Preparation for CR Transition
- TAG Review Explainers
- Implementation Report update
- Wide Review
- JSON-LD Review
- Internationalization
- Accessibility
- Others?
- Schedule revisited
- TF updates
- WoT Architecture
- WoT Thing Description
- WoT Binding Templates
- WoT Scripting API
- WoT Security
- Cross-alliance IoT Baseline Security Workshop - Spreadsheet
- AOB
6 Mar 2019
- Quick Updates
- Workshop - Almost Certainly Probably Final CFP
- Watch out for Daylight Savings Change next week! (see below)
- AC Meeting April 7-9
- Lighting Talk on WoT
- McCool to present: will do draft; just 3-4 slides, 5-10 minutes
- Verifiable Claims F2F Update
- Soapbox: Definitions
- Preparation for TAG Review
- Schedule
- Explainers
- Freezing/Snapshots/Tags
- Implementation Report update - Summary
- TF updates
- WoT Architecture
- WoT Thing Description
- WoT Binding Templates
- WoT Scripting API
- WoT Security
- AOB
27 Feb 2019
- Quick Updates
- Workshop - Updated CFP
- Daylight Savings starts soon, and so does mass confusion...
- Calls are all scheduled in US Eastern Time, and European daylight savings starts on a different date, so...
- In Europe, calls will start one hour earlier after March 10 and then and then go back one hour later after March 31.
- In Japan, calls will start one hour earlier after March 10.
- For this meeting, March 6 will be as usual, then the one after that will be an hour earlier, except in the US (generally...)
- WG onboarding information
- Schedule
- Explainer documents needed for TAG review
- Draft: TD TF (Tuesday, March 5th); Architecture TF (Tuesday, March 5th)
- Chairs to finalize (Wednesday, March 6th), present in main call
- TAG Review Start: Start of March (Friday, March 8th)
- CR Transition Target: March 30th (allows 2wks for TAG Review)
- Transition request examples: email version, GitHub version
- Explainer documents needed for TAG review
- TF updates
- WoT Architecture
- New meeting time: Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 4:00 am Eastern Standard Time
- WoT Thing Description
- WoT Binding Templates
- WoT Scripting API
- WoT Security
- WoT Architecture
- AOB
20 Feb 2019
- Quick Updates
- IG extension announcement sent
- Workshop
- Finalizing F2F minutes
- How to deal with JSON-LD capability within TD?
- discussion with Manu Sporny from VCWG/JSON-LD WG
- TestFest status check
- Action items: At-risk "fixers"
- New results at 2019-3-online directory
- Assertion Checker tool
- CR schedule including Testing work
- TF updates
- WoT Architecture
- WoT Thing Description
- WoT Binding Templates
- WoT Scripting API
- WoT Security and Privacy Guidelines
13 Feb 2019
- Quick Updates
- IG extension
- F2F minutes
- Draft minutes
- Action items
- GitHub area for presentations from Princeton meeting
- TestFest results rollover
- Action items: At-risk "fixers"
- New results should go into 2019-3-online directory
- Draft minutes
- Scripting, F2F follow-up (10-15m, Zoltan)
- code examples on API options
- developer feedback (new)
- discussion
- WG Timeline and Document Deadlines
- WoT Architecture
- WoT Thing Description
- WoT Binding Templates
- WoT Scripting API
- WoT WoT Security and Privacy Guidelines
- Workshop
6 Feb 2019
- F2F debrief (Scripting detail below)
- Draft minutes
- Action items
- GitHub area for presentations from Princeton meeting
- TestFest results rollover
- Action items: At-risk "fixers"
- New results should go into 2019-3-online directory after TD call this Friday
- Draft minutes
- T2TRG @ IETF 104
- Premeeting on Fri, 22 Mar 2018
- IETF Hackathon Sat/Sun 23/24 Mar 2018
- Potential W3C WoT Sidemeeting during IETF week
- Latest updates
- Architecture
- Workshop
- IG extension
- Scripting, F2F follow-up (10-15m, Zoltan)
- code examples on API options
- developer feedback (new)
- discussion
23 Jan 2019
- Quick Updates
- F2F and TestFest Updates
- Registration
- Session scheduling
- OpenDay: Observers, proposed speakers
- Any other updates?
- (TestFest details to be discussed during the Testing call following this call)
- Architecture
- New Working Draft - Word diff
- Will create branch on main repo with all merged (tentative) PRs
- Friday TD slot will be used this week for additional discussion (instead of TD call)
- Scripting
- Browser or Not?
- Thing Description
- Assertion and Implementation Report Updates
- Behavioral assertions PR
- ITU Liaison feedback? (can revisit this during f2f)
- Other Task Force Reports:
- Binding
- Security
- Other Business
16 Jan 2019
- Quick Updates
- WoT Workshop
- WoT Architecture
- One Data Model
- Liaisons
- Next TPAC
- 16-20 September 2019 in Fukuoka, Japan
- Probably in the Hilton - City Hall Hotel
- F2F Logistics
- Already registered
- Registration
- Including remote registrants
- OpenDay
- Session Schedule
- Task Force Reports
- Thing Description
- Changes and Finalization
- HTML diff between 21 Oct 2018 (published WD) and 16 Jan 2019
- Security
- Scripting
- Thing Description
- TestFest Planning
9 Jan 2019
- Quick Updates
- WoT Workshop
- New Security Testing Plan and Security Best Practices document repos
- WoT Architecture draft
- Regular meeting time (discuss result of Doodle)
- Inclusion of Oracle's input
- Matsukura-san suggesting a simpler structure with rationale description for the architecture
- F2F Logistics
- Registration
- OpenDay Schedule
- Topics and sessions
- TestFest Logistics
- Access
- Network
- Testing planning
- Pre-work
- Other
- Task Force reports