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Agenda of 13 December 2012 TAG Teleconference

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1. Convene
   • Chair: Noah Mendelsohn, Scribe: Peter Linss(confirmed)
   • Regrets: Tim-Berners
   • Future regrets:
   • Agenda Review - this agenda
   • Next Meeting: 20 Dec. 2012, Chair: Noah Mendelsohn
   • Future scribes: Peter Linss -> Yves Lafon -> Henry Thompson
2. Approve minutes of prior meeting(s)
   • 6 December 2012
3. Administrative items
   • Agree on telcon schedule from now into January
   • Reminder: January TAG meeting is now 14-16 January (Mon-Wed) in Cambridge, MA USA. This is a change from earlier plans to meet on the West Coast. The March meeting may be moved to San Jose.
4. ISSUE-67 (HTML-XML-Divergence-67): HTML / XML Unification
   • Norm Walsh will be joining us by phone for this session
   • Goals:
     • Review, correct if necessary, and agree to send draft e-mail on polyglot from Jeni Tennison (see also thread following from Jeni's posting)
   • Background:
     • E-mail from Sam Ruby (26 March 2010) conveying to HTML WG the TAG's request that a "there should be in TR space a document which specifies how one can create a set of bits which can be served EITHER as text/html OR as application/xhtml+xml, which will work identically in a browser in both bases."
     • Telcon discussion on 6 December 2012 during which we assigned ACTION-771: on - Jeni Tennison - Draft e-mail responding to request to rescind polyglot request to HTML WG?
     • draft e-mail on polyglot from Jeni Tennison (see also thread following from Jeni's posting)
     • Sam's request appears to be a follow-on to a joint discussion between the TAG and the HTML working group chairs which occurred on 24 March 2010 (minutes). Tim Berners-Lee is quoted in those minutes as saying "I want that there should be in TR space a document which specifies how I can create a set of bits which I can server EITHER as text/html OR as xhtml+xml, which will work in a browser in both cases, as Sam does on his web site." (typos fixed [Noah]).
     • W3C Working Group Note HTML/XML Task Force Report W3C Working Group Note 9 February 2012
     • Request from Henri Sivonen that the TAG Rescind the request to the HTML WG to develop a polyglot guide (Henri and the HTML working group chairs clarify that this request is from Henri as an individual, not formally on behalf of the HTML working group. Nonetheless, it will be useful to the working group to have guidance within the next two weeks.)
     • Comments on Henri's request from Larry Masinter
     • HTML WG Bugzilla Entry requesting change in status from REC to Note for polyglot
     • E-mail from Henri Sivonen to HTML WG giving rationale for requesting change (referenced from bugzilla entry)
     • E-mail from Lachlan Hunt to HTML WG giving rationale for requesting change (referenced from bugzilla entry)
     • E-mail from Noah Mendelsohn suggesting that Sam Ruby's blog posting be considered. Note that same also references a proposal to drop the term XHTML from the title of the polyglot specification
5. Start planning F2F agenda
6. TAG focus
   • Goals:
     • Start thinking about some of the ideas for refocusing the TAG that have come up in discussions of candidates' statements
   • Background:
     • TAG candidates position statements are now public
     • Several threads relating to TAG effectiveness, election procedures, etc. in Dec. archives of the www-tag mailing list
7. Pending Review Items:
   • Pending review actions in Tracker
8. Overdue Action Items:
   • Overdue actions in Tracker
9. Any other business