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Workshop Report at 25/Mar/2016

attendees

  • LGCNS: Sean Kim, Baeck Seung Eun, Han Seung Jun
  • Konkuk Univ: Nick Lee
  • Blocko: Allan Jonghwan Kim, Seok Ho Chul, Kim Won Beom
  • ETRI: Phillip Seyoung Huh
  • PayGate: Mountie Lee
  • Kookmin Bank: Hyugsoon Kwon

workshop purpose

  • approaching open standards based on blockchain
  • recommend usage guideline of storage including torrent, public/private blockchain, sidechain and CDN
  • study and evalue new techs
  • initial preparing workshop
  • approaching details, prototyping

Perspectives from Blockchain Industry

  • https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/17KmamYtO9J4Ae1DMLd9MGtWrjPNaYjGVsTu2Dn4QFuA/edit?usp=sharing
  • share basic understanding for blockchain
  • Proliferation of blockchain applications
    • various applications are introduced currently
    • blockchain is the key tech for new generation
    • strong industry requirement
  • Blockchain-based Applications in Real World
    • many interests
    • but less implementations
    • same experience at the starting stage of PC, Internet
  • Case Study: Blockchain-base Auth
    • different implementations by different vendors
    • Blocko suggest a standard compliant with existing PKI utilizing blockchain tech
    • faced numerous problems in adoption
    • Problems
      • Lack of Understanding
        • peoples don’t understand well
        • same experience for new techs
      • Lack of Engineering Standard
        • how data should be represented and stored?
        • which cryptography?
        • how to integrate with existing security subsystems?
        • no goto-toolkit
        • many bitcoin libraries but too many choices
      • Lack of Evaluation/Audit
        • on regulation side, audit is important like CC
        • best-practices are not shared well
    • What to do? we need killer applications
    • Solutions
      • Education
        • need effective education path with organized efforts
        • coffee-break style education is also considerable
      • Standardization of Engineering Assets
        • need standards and recommendations
      • Standardization of Protocols/Specs
        • need basic spec
        • lessoned learn from FIDO
          • FIDO provides specs, education and certification
          • two specs: biometric and two factor auth
          • suggesting architecture, protocol and api
          • doing educational efforts and give certification
          • but FIDO seams commercial oriented
  • Benefits from Standarization
    • experts are preparing well with their own spec
    • reduced effort
    • more secure
    • robust implementations
    • more credibility and usability for end users
    • with standard, we can expect many blockchain based applications at near future
  • Blocko’s contributions

Perspectives from Banking Industry

  • R3
    • MS azure, 5 more blockchains are tested. ethereum is tested lastly
    • MS BaaS
      • providing almost free for blockchain industries
      • IBM and MS compete
    • R3 requested too much annual fee over 250,000USD
    • R3 has more interest now non-bank participants
  • Cloud Service
    • we have several sensitive issues using cloud services
    • adopting cloud service like MS BaaS in financial industry is currently unavailable in some countries like Korea
    • same issue in EU
  • ISO20022
    • ISO20022 is trying to define message and flow of financial institutions
    • Korean banks is refusing ISO20022 standard because of cost and other legacy systems
    • KB Bank has strong interest for blockchain. but not so much interest on ISO20022
  • in ethereum, IBAN code is added in spec recently. in address structure

Perspectives from non-Banking Industry

  • blockchain tech and capital market (link : https://goo.gl/E4IYMa )
  • pros and cons of blockchain
    • pros
      • reduce settlement time between institutions
      • easy document management
      • reduce system risk
      • improve effectiveness of M/O, B/O operation
      • reduce cost of ledger system management
    • cons
      • technical limitation
      • unable to revoke
      • limit of market and regulation
      • different attitudes of institutions
  • multiple marketplaces for stock exchange
  • experience of stock market and OTC market limitation
    • use OTC marketplace for growth momentum
    • structure of open platform for startup exit
    • issue stock at blockchain as example implementation at 2015
    • issuing stock based on open asset. manage stockholder list via blockchain
    • store evidence of stock exchanging to blockchain for OTC stock
    • trying to use public blockchain. but institutions has more interest for private chain
    • use separated private storage to manage details
    • are the existing players restricting access to private chain from other players? => they don’t think 3rd party players
    • now starting new different private market (confirmed by regulator)
    • researches
      • Australia marketplace focused on settlement only
      • researched nasdaq case : still non-Live status but no detail
      • crowd funding case
        • central repository has role to manage crowd funding investors. conflict with blockchain
    • other types of digital assets can be placed to same model of OTC stock
    • what was the biggest issues : how to post maker value
  • smart contract
    • value awareness concept is important
    • how to interface external system which is keeping value with blockchain
  • document stamping
    • currently generalized now
  • Augur
    • it is illegal in US or other country
    • answer “is futures trading gambling”?
    • we have to recommend minimum guideline to regulator
  • blockchain can be base of IoT service

study and evaluate other techs related to blockchain

  • including activities
    • digital currency group
    • W3C groups: CryptoLedgers, InterLedger
    • Chinese Groups
      • Chinese Blockchain Miner’s association is not standardizing body
      • they has different color
  • Ethereum
    • LGCNS reviewed other techs and activities but picked Ethereum
    • is it really possible to implement IoT service with Ethereum?
  • we don’t need to develop totally new standard but improvement by referencing other standards, activities and techs
    • de-facto is actually important

Storage

  • Torrent as a storage
    • magnet link of torrent? is this permant? magnet link is hash value
    • we can consider distributed hash table tech. bit-torrent is one of example of implementations
    • consider open source distributed file system
  • Public Blockchain
    • any concerns using public-blockchain? ==> not so much reststance
    • store linked-data at blockchain, store main data to CDN or other distributed storage
    • scalability
      • TPS has totally different view between blockchain and financial trans
      • mis-understanding
      • Eris has different approach. changing consensus algorithm will increase scalability
  • blockchain 2.0
    • calculate guess value. set guess-limit. no-limit for size

Use Cases

  • store non face-to-face evidence in blockchain
  • using blockchain as replacement (fully or partially) of CA/RA
  • inter-bank communications (payment, balance check…)
  • stock(OTC) issue/exchange
  • content licensing

ACTION Items

  • generalize OpenKeyChain spec
    • prepare english version
    • put on WIKI
    • generaze it
  • share knowledge about ISO20022
  • develop UseCases
  • announce
    • chair will announce for group formation
    • reference : https://goo.gl/Kvycbe

Group Formation

  • scope
    • we don’t need to focus on Web only
    • to define scope
      • need to study or take full view of other technologies including ethereum, bitcoin
      • and including more for Eris, Tendermint, Hyperledger, IBM’s OBC-peers
    • try to narrow scope as much as we can
    • bitcoin and ethereum is good starting point
    • Blockchain CG focus on which boundaries? narrow to financial industries or more generalized scope?
    • research use cases more
  • chairs
    • nicklee002 (LEE YOUNG HWAN)
    • reserve room for other participant as co-chair
  • language
    • do we use bi-lingual communication? or officially using ONE language?
    • English as Main language (unofficially use local languages)
  • communication
    • communication channel: irc, mailing list, teleconference, f2f meeting(incl workshop)
    • teleconference
      • tool : hangout
      • date & time : Thursday 4:00 PM KST bi-weekly (next teleconference : 7/Apr/2016 KST)
  • F2F meetings
    • 1/Jun/2016 in KR as first F2F meeting
    • at TPAC 2016 at Lisbon
  • charter
    • Blocko will edit charter draft
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