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Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference

15 Mar 2017

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
janina, Joanmarie_Diggs, tdrake, MichaelC, Léonie, JF
Regrets
Chair
Janina
Scribe
Léonie

Contents


preview agenda with items from two minutes

<scribe> scribenick: tink

<scribe> scribe: Léonie

JS: The RQTF is starting to get traction.
... It needs more participation though.
... Shadi and I attended the WoT meeting in Berlin.
... Tried to submit a paper but received pushback because the accessibility of WoT interfaces was "taken as a given".
... We need to liaise with Johannes Hund (co-chair of the WoT WG) on this.

LW: TPG has two peole in the WoT WG already.

GZ: I follow ismilar groups under ISO too.
... One use case is assisted living.
... My feeling is that these groups work in isolation from each other though.

JS: Yes.
... There are accessibility, security and privacy questions that relate to WoT.

GZ: I had the feeling there was little interest in working with us, from the WoT WG.

JS: We'll let the RQTF follow up on this for now.

APA Task Forces; APA CfC

<janina> TV Remote Control: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2017Mar/0003.html

JS: Two CFCs open at the moment.

<janina> Web Payments CG: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2017Mar/0002.html

JS: The TV Control CFC is based on an amendment to the last CFC.
... When you talk about remote control, one expectation is that volume can be controlled.
... But this is being handled through a separate API apparently.

Community Groups Review https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Community_Groups

JS: We have a number of sub-teams, including one on web payments.
... Through WAI IG more (non-member) participants have been identified.
... Leading to the cration of a CG.
... To develop a payments usability requirements document.

Ted, for the CSS TF is there anything we can do?

scribe: Can you give us an update next week?

TD: Yes, that works for me.

JS: Expect an update on RQTF from Jason next week too.
... They're revisiting the CAPTCHA doc we published a while ago.

TD: Google just announced its new evolution of CAPTCHA.

<tdrake> https://www.google.com/recaptcha/intro/invisible.html

MC: There may be privacy concerns with the new Google approach.

TD: My understanding is that around 40% of people will still be sent through to a puzzle.

JS: RQTF is aware of this though.

Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8

action-2118?

<trackbot> action-2118 -- Ted Drake to Manage review of css containment module level 1 https://www.w3.org/tr/css-contain-1/ -- due 2017-03-01 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2118

TD: Unfinished.

action-2116?

<trackbot> action-2116 -- John Foliot to Review ttml profiles for internet media subtitles and captions 1.0.1 (imsc1) https://www.w3.org/tr/ttml-imsc1.0.1/ -- due 2017-02-15 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2116

JF: Still open?
... Need to check. Thought it was done.

<MichaelC> action-2116 due 1 week

<trackbot> Set action-2116 Review ttml profiles for internet media subtitles and captions 1.0.1 (imsc1) https://www.w3.org/tr/ttml-imsc1.0.1/ due date to 2017-03-22.

MC: If you've done it, close it.

action-2113?

<trackbot> action-2113 -- Ted Drake to Review css display module level 3 https://www.w3.org/tr/css-display-3/ -- due 2017-03-08 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2113

TD: Not done.

<MichaelC> action-2113 due 1 week

<trackbot> Set action-2113 Review css display module level 3 https://www.w3.org/tr/css-display-3/ due date to 2017-03-22.

<MichaelC> action-2118 due 1 week

<trackbot> Set action-2118 Manage review of css containment module level 1 https://www.w3.org/tr/css-contain-1/ due date to 2017-03-22.

action-2112?

<trackbot> action-2112 -- Janina Sajka to Re-review push api https://w3c.github.io/push-api/ -- due 2017-03-01 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2112

<MichaelC> action-2112 due 1 week

<trackbot> Set action-2112 Re-review push api https://w3c.github.io/push-api/ due date to 2017-03-22.

JS: Not done.

action-2099?

<trackbot> action-2099 -- Michael Cooper to Ping review of css table module level 3 -- due 2017-03-08 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2099

MC: Wanted to come back to this.
... Spec was updated last week, so perhaps we should look again?

JS: Ted is helping us assign these, so give it to Ted for now with a couple of weeks.

TD: Next week I should have time.

action-2094?

<trackbot> action-2094 -- Janina Sajka to Review tv control api specification https://www.w3.org/tr/tvcontrol-api/ -- due 2017-02-15 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2094

JS: The CFC is out relating to this.

<MichaelC> close action-2094

<trackbot> Closed action-2094.

action-2088?

<trackbot> action-2088 -- Michael Cooper to Trigger apa review of html 5.2 after it´s had a chance to develop -- due 2017-03-03 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2088

LW: WD was just updated and we're aiming to be in CR in June.

JS: Theres a diff?

LW: Yes, a changelog in thet ToC.

JS: I'll do it, give me a month. Anyone else?

<MichaelC> ACTION: janina to review HTML 5.2 https://www.w3.org/TR/html52/ - due 4 weeks [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/15-apa-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2119 - Review html 5.2 https://www.w3.org/tr/html52/ [on Janina Sajka - due 2017-04-12].

<MichaelC> action-2119: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/HTML_5.2

<trackbot> Notes added to action-2119 Review html 5.2 https://www.w3.org/tr/html52/.

<MichaelC> close action-2088

<trackbot> Closed action-2088.

action-2070?

<trackbot> action-2070 -- Ted Drake to Pick up the thread with https://www.w3.org/tr/css-counter-styles-3/ css counter styles level 3 on needing reply to their response to us -- due 2017-03-08 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2070

TD: Not done yet.

<MichaelC> action-2070 due 1 week

<trackbot> Set action-2070 Pick up the thread with https://www.w3.org/tr/css-counter-styles-3/ css counter styles level 3 on needing reply to their response to us due date to 2017-03-22.

action-2062?

<trackbot> action-2062 -- Ted Drake to Re-review custom counter styles https://www.w3.org/tr/predefined-counter-styles/ -- due 2017-03-08 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2062

MC: Duplicate?

<MichaelC> close action-2062

<trackbot> Closed action-2062.

action-2055?

<trackbot> action-2055 -- Janina Sajka to Review css painting api level 1 https://www.w3.org/tr/css-paint-api-1/ -- due 2017-03-09 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2055

JS: Can I give this to Ted?
... Think it was a placeholder action.

action-2029?

<trackbot> action-2029 -- John Foliot to Review discovery & registration of multimodal modality components: state handling https://www.w3.org/tr/mmi-mc-discovery/ -- due 2017-02-02 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2029

JS: Multi-Modal is closed, no?

JF: Don't recall this one.

MC: Yes, we can close.

<MichaelC> close action-2029

<trackbot> Closed action-2029.

action-2011?

<trackbot> action-2011 -- Ted Drake to Janina to draft examples of how the hand-wavey stuff in CSS Transitions accessibility statement could be solidified -- due 2016-06-29 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2011

TD: Didn't know about this one.

JS: Michiel tried to write something, but we felt it needed more but didn't then get anywhere.

<MichaelC> action-2011 due 1 week

<trackbot> Set action-2011 Janina to draft examples of how the hand-wavey stuff in CSS Transitions accessibility statement could be solidified due date to 2017-03-22.

TD: Could be useful to do this.

LW: Did we review the Screen Orientation API?
... I had a note that we did but cant find trace of the place we said so.

JS: Think we had concerns about locking orientation.

JF: We don't want that ability.

ED: Native apps have this ability.

JF: Yes, the user might want to, but do we want authors to?

JS: This wasn't a user override.

LW: It's a JS API that enables authors to lock orientation.
... Think this is author guidance because the API could be used either way.
... to give the user control or to enable author control of orientation.

JF: There is a proposed SC in WCAG 2.1.
... SC2.6.2 Level AA.

JS: Ok, guess we dont need anything here.

<JF> Proposed: https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG21/#orientation

<JF> Content is not locked to a specific orientation, and functionality of the content is operable in all orientations, except where orientation is essential for use of the content.

JS: we should mention this in the wiki.

new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html

CG review

<MichaelC> APA wiki for Community Groups

MC: Have put my recommendations for what to do with these CGs into the ^^ doc.

JS: Suggest we all take this as homework... to review and comment on Michael's recommendations.
... We'll also report to the WAI IG in case someone there is interested in trackig a particular CG on our hhelaf.

LW: +1

<JF> +1 I will take a stab

new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html

<MichaelC> Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG) 2.1

JS: No need to review.

<MichaelC> Web Publications

<MichaelC> Web Publications Use Cases and Requirements

MC: Suggest we review the use cases document.
... It has an a11y section.

JF: The editors are know and trusted, but we should review and I'm happy to do it.

<MichaelC> ACTION: JF to review Web Publications Use Cases and Requirements https://www.w3.org/TR/pwp-ucr/ [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/15-apa-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2120 - Review web publications use cases and requirements https://www.w3.org/tr/pwp-ucr/ [on John Foliot - due 2017-03-22].

<MichaelC> action-2120: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Web_Publications_Use_Cases_and_Requirements

<trackbot> Notes added to action-2120 Review web publications use cases and requirements https://www.w3.org/tr/pwp-ucr/.

<MichaelC> Embedding Web Annotations in HTML

MC: Think this is closed.
... Sugest we skip it.

<MichaelC> CSS Basic User Interface Module Level 3 (CSS3 UI)

LW: Happy to review this.

<MichaelC> ACTION: Léonie to review CSS Basic User Interface Module Level 3 (CSS3 UI) https://www.w3.org/TR/css-ui-3/ [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/15-apa-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2121 - Review css basic user interface module level 3 (css3 ui) https://www.w3.org/tr/css-ui-3/ [on Léonie Watson - due 2017-03-22].

<MichaelC> CSS Rhythmic Sizing

<MichaelC> ACTION: Ted to manage review of CSS Rhythmic Sizing https://www.w3.org/TR/css-rhythm-1/ [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/15-apa-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2122 - Manage review of css rhythmic sizing https://www.w3.org/tr/css-rhythm-1/ [on Ted Drake - due 2017-03-22].

<MichaelC> Selectors and States

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: janina to review HTML 5.2 https://www.w3.org/TR/html52/ - due 4 weeks [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/15-apa-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: JF to review Web Publications Use Cases and Requirements https://www.w3.org/TR/pwp-ucr/ [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/15-apa-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Léonie to review CSS Basic User Interface Module Level 3 (CSS3 UI) https://www.w3.org/TR/css-ui-3/ [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/15-apa-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Ted to manage review of CSS Rhythmic Sizing https://www.w3.org/TR/css-rhythm-1/ [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/15-apa-minutes.html#action04]
 

Summary of Resolutions

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