Re: Agenda: APA Weekly Teleconference; Wednesday 6 Januray 2021 at 1700z from Matthew Atkinson on 2021-01-06 (public-apa@w3.org from January 2021)

From: Matthew Atkinson <matkinson@paciellogroup.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2021 18:05:40 +0000
To: Becky Gibson <becky@knowbility.org>, W3C WAI Accessible Platform Architectures <public-apa@w3.org>
Message-ID: <4D13C8BF-5FC1-42F7-981C-CE3B0967993F@tpgi.com>
Hello all,

You can find minutes at https://www.w3.org/2021/01/06-apa-minutes.html and below in plaintext.

Best regards,


Matthew

  – DRAFT –
Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference


06 January 2021

IRC log. <https://www.w3.org/2021/01/06-apa-irc>


    Attendees

Present
    amy_c, becky, Ela, IrfanA, JF, joconnor, JPaton, Léonie (tink),
    Matthew_Atkinson, NeilS, paul_grenier
Regrets
    -
Chair
    becky
Scribe
    Matthew_Atkinson


    Contents

1. Agenda Review & Announcements <#t01>
2. APA Rechartering
    -https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/charter-2021/charter.html <#t02>
3. Task Force Updates <#t03>
4. FAST Progress Josh <#t04>
5. New Charters Review
    https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22%22

    <#t05>
6. new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html <#t06>
7. CSS Checkin (Amy) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues <#t07>
8. Actions Checkin (Specs)
    https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open <#t08>
9. Horizontal Review Issues Tracker
    https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review

    <#t09>
10. Other Business <#t10>
11. be done <#t11>
12. Summary of action items <#ActionSummary>


    Meeting minutes


      Agenda Review & Announcements

Becky: Happy new year, all. Welcome to our new member Emanuela.


      APA Rechartering
      -https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/charter-2021/charter.html

      <https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/charter-2021/charter.html>

<becky> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/charter-2021/charter.html

<https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/charter-2021/charter.html>

Becky: Looking for comments soon (need to have a final draft this
month). Particularly the Scope and Out of scope sections.

JF: Concerned about the out-of-scope "technologies that do not interact
with web content"—is XR web content?

Léonie: WebXR is web content.

Janina: Could say that when a UA is involved it's considered web content
(or the port on which it's transmitted).

JF: Should we state that our remit doesn't extend to hardware or
applications?

Léonie: for the XR aspect, should we scope it explicitly to WebXR?

Janina: RQTF sometimes explores areas a bit more widely than strictly
web-only (recent example: media synchronization, captions).

Janina: (this sometimes helps feed back in to the web work)

Paul: XR/AR could be used in games, that may be on console (not web) or
the web. Why would some of these experiences be considered, but not others?

Neil: Does this depend on APIs being used?

Becky: Should we scope it to W3C/web specifcations, as Léonie mentioned?
Does anyone want to have a go at a revised description (offline)? Is it
sufficient as-is?

Janina/Becky: let's develop any counterproposals on-list/GitHub.

Becky: if you have suggestions, please send to the list for discussion
next time.

Becky: Are the bullets in those sections OK? (For big issues, we can
discuss here; for editorial, we can use the list)


      Task Force Updates

Paul: Pronunciation: we're focusing on chartering currently too. We are
also creating approachable demos/artefacts to explain what we're working
on to the general public.

Becky: Personalization: Also working on the charter; action items so
that we can go to CR with our first module, on content.

Becky: Working on implementors and getting prepared to ask WHATWG for a
prefix.

Janina: RQTF: Continuing to work through WebRTC Accessibility User
Requirements document—some new use cases have come to light and we are
having fruitful discussion. Working on a Working Draft before trying to
finalize it.

Janina: also considering what RQTF would like to add to the APA charter.

Becky: APA met with Web of Things at TPAC and we're both keen to meet.
This will likely be of most interest to RQTF. There will be a meeting in
the RQTF slot on the 27th of January. Check for list traffic.


      FAST Progress Josh

Michael: Work will be resuming shortly. The main document of user needs
and the checklist are the current focuses, as well as integration with
Silver.


      New Charters Review
      https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22%22

      <https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22%22>


      new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html

      <http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html>

<MichaelC> CSS Backgrounds and Borders Module Level 3
<https://www.w3.org/TR/css-backgrounds-3/>

Michael: this is a CR snapshot.

Janina: there may be need for cross-reference with Silver with respect
to color contrast beyond text.

Michael: We asked for something like this in the Color module.

Janina: heads up that the spec will have mathematical formulae in it
that will enable a tool to help check for more contrast issues.

Michael: will defer this for now until we have the extra info.

<MichaelC> CSS Box Model Module Level 3 <https://www.w3.org/TR/css-box-3/>

Michael: this is a CR snapshot too.

Amy: *to review*

<MichaelC> CSS Snapshot 2020 <https://www.w3.org/TR/css-2020/>

Michael: this is a Working Group note. Do we want to review it?

Michael: *suggests probably not*

Becky/Janina/Amy: no need to review

<MichaelC> Data Catalog Vocabulary (DCAT) - Version 3
<https://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-dcat-3/>

Michael: This is FPWD.

Michael/Becky: Don't need to review (low-level)?

Paul: If this is about metadata, we would need to ensure that e.g. alt
text is transmitted with metadata for an image.

Paul: *will review*

*Action:* Paul to review Editing Data Catalog Vocabulary (DCAT) - Version 3

<trackbot> 'Paul' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different
identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., paulbohman, pgrenier).

*Action:* grenier to review Editing Data Catalog Vocabulary (DCAT) -
Version 3

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2277 - Review editing data catalog vocabulary
(dcat) - version 3 [on Paul Grenier - due 2021-01-13].

<MichaelC> The Screen Fold API <https://www.w3.org/TR/screen-fold/>

Michael: This is FPWD too.

Becky/Janina: is there anything about what to _do_ with the info?

Paul: there was a sentance in parens about locking (though this relates
to the screen orientation API)

Michael: Perhaps changing the SHOULD there (in Posture values table) to
something else. (First glance only.)

Paul: Can't allow one posture to be locked in.

*Action:* grenier to review The Screen Fold API

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2278 - Review the screen fold api [on Paul
Grenier - due 2021-01-13].

Janina: *suggests posting to the list so we can make a WG comment*

<MichaelC> Web Authentication: An API for accessing Public Key
Credentials Level 2
<https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Web_Authentication:_An_API_for_accessing_Public_Key_Credentials_Level_2>

Michael: This was re-published as CR snapshot.

Janina: John Rockford [sp?] offered help with what's changed *will
follow up*


     CSS Checkin (Amy) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues

      <https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues>

<amy_c> https://www.w3.org/TR/css-color-adjust-1/

<https://www.w3.org/TR/css-color-adjust-1/>

Amy: This is fine. A lot of mention is made of the fact that good
contrast is not necessarily guaranteed and that it's important.

<MichaelC> action-2277: https://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-dcat-3/

<https://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-dcat-3/>

<trackbot> Notes added to action-2277 Review editing data catalog
vocabulary (dcat) - version 3.

<MichaelC> action-2277:
https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary_(DCAT)_-_Version_3
<https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary_(DCAT)_-_Version_3>

<trackbot> Notes added to action-2277 Review editing data catalog
vocabulary (dcat) - version 3.

<MichaelC> action-2278: https://www.w3.org/TR/screen-fold/

<https://www.w3.org/TR/screen-fold/>

<trackbot> Notes added to action-2278 Review the screen fold api.

<MichaelC> action-2278:
https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/The_Screen_Fold_API

<https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/The_Screen_Fold_API>

<trackbot> Notes added to action-2278 Review the screen fold api.

Amy: (could potentially include an accessibility section in future)

Janina: may be worth adding a note about upcoming tools to help people
find/address contrast issues.

<amy_c> https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues/20

<https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues/20>

Amy: This issue is from 2018; looking for help tracking the conversation
at the time.

Amy: alt was added and then apparently deprecated as a property (though
implemented in Safari)

<amy_c> https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues/21

<https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues/21>

Amy: this issue is related to the preivous one.

Amy: Do we need to keep these, or are they being discussed, or dropped?

<paul_grenier> (blog I mentioned
https://adrianroselli.com/2020/10/alternative-text-for-css-generated-content.html)
<https://adrianroselli.com/2020/10/alternative-text-for-css-generated-content.html)>

Janina: ARIA has come up in a few issues across TFs today; shall we
collect our thoughts and submit them for consideration for ARIA 1.3?
Joint meeting?

<amy_c> blog from Bruce Lawson I mentioned
https://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2014/notes-on-draft-css-alt-property/

<https://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2014/notes-on-draft-css-alt-property/>

Michael: (Likely ARIA 1.4.) Some of this perhaps fits the Accessibility
Object Model and may help prgoress things there.

Janina: seems we have an interesting set of use cases (e.g. from WebRTC).

Janina/Becky/Michael: we should start a [wiki?] page to collect the
info; contact ARIA.


      Actions Checkin (Specs)
      https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open

      <https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open>


      Horizontal Review Issues Tracker
      https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review

      <https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review>

Michael: https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/6218

<https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/6218> - needs more discussion later.


      Other Business

Becky: May need another community groups review at some point soon.


      be done


    Summary of action items

1. Paul to review Editing Data Catalog Vocabulary (DCAT) - Version 3 <#a01>
2. grenier to review Editing Data Catalog Vocabulary (DCAT) - Version 3
    <#a02>
3. grenier to review The Screen Fold API <#a03>

Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl
<https://w3c.github.io/scribe2/scribedoc.html> version 127 (Wed Dec 30
17:39:58 2020 UTC).

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From: Becky Gibson <becky@knowbility.org>
Date: Tuesday, 5 January 2021 at 22:21
To: W3C WAI Accessible Platform Architectures <public-apa@w3.org>
Subject: Agenda: APA Weekly Teleconference; Wednesday 6 Januray 2021 at 1700z
Resent from: <public-apa@w3.org>
Resent date: Tuesday, 5 January 2021 at 22:21

Zoom teleconference info is available at this non-public page:
https://www.w3.org/2017/08/telecon-info_apa


Minutes from our last teleconference are available at:
  <https://www.w3.org/2020/07/29-apa-minutes.html> https://www.w3.org/2020/12/16-apa-minutes.html


What: APA Weekly Teleconference
When:     January 6, 2021 at 17:00z
12:00 PM Boston -- U.S. Eastern Time (EST: UTC -5)
Corresponding times in other time zones are:
     <http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=APA+Teleconference&iso=20200805T12&p1=43&ah=1> https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=APA+Teleconference&iso=20210106T12&p1=43&ah=1

Where: Zoom Teleconference Service
https://www.w3.org/2017/08/telecon-info_apa

IRC: irc.w3.org<unsafe:about:blank> Channel: #apa
Additional logistics below

** Preliminary Agenda for APA WG Telecon  January 6

agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
agenda+ APA Rechartering -https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/charter-2021/charter.html

agenda+ Task Force Updates
agenda+ FAST Progress Josh
agenda+ New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22%22

agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html

agenda+ CSS Checkin (Amy) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues

agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open

agenda+ Horizontal Review Issues Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review

agenda+ Other Business
agenda+ be done

 Resource: APA & Task Force Teleconference Minutes
APA Telecon: https://www.w3.org/2020/12/16-apa-minutes.html

RQTF:  https://www.w3.org/2020/12/09-rqtf-minutes.html<https://www.w3.org/2020/12/17-coga-minutes.html>
COGA TF: https://www.w3.org/2020/12/17-coga-minutes.html

p13n: https://www.w3.org/2020/12/14-personalization-minutes.html

Pronunciation: https://www.w3.org/2020/12/16-pronunciation-minutes.html<https://www.w3.org/2020/10/07-pronunciation-minutes.html>

Resource: FAST & Horizontal Reviews
Framework: http://w3c.github.io/apa/fast/

Checklist: http://w3c.github.io/apa/fast/checklist

Resource: Pronunciation Task Force
Email: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pronunciation/

Wiki: https://github.com/w3c/pronunciation/wiki

Issues: https://github.com/w3c/pronunciation/issues

github: https://github.com/w3c/pronunciation

Home Page: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/pronunciation/

Work Statement: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/pronunciation/work-statement


Resource: Personalization Task Force:
Overview: https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/wiki/TPAC2019-WebApps-Symbols-Overview

Specification: https://www.w3.org/TR/personalization-semantics-1.0/

Email Archive: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-personalization-tf/

Wiki: https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/wiki

Issue Tracker: https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/issues

Home Page: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/personalization/

Work Statement: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/personalization/work-statement


Resource: COGA Task Force
Wiki: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/

Email Archive: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/

Publication: https://raw.githack.com/w3c/coga/changes-after-0327/content-usable/index.html

Home Page: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/

Work Statement: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/work-statement


Resource: Research Questions Task Force (RQTF)
Wiki: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/research-questions/wiki/Main_Page

Email Archive: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rqtf/

Home Page: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/research-questions/

Work Statement: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/research-questions/work-statement


Resource: CSS Accessibility Task Force
Home Page: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/css-a11y/

Work Statement: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/css-a11y/work-statement

Issue Tracker: https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues


Resource: Key APA Pages For Reference
Your personal tracker: http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/users/my

APA Tracker (Issues and Actions): http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track

Issues Dashboard: https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review

Spec Review History: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review

CG Review Matrix: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Community_Groups

Verticals Matrix: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Verticals_to_Track

Home Page: http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/

Charter: http://www.w3.org/2015/10/apa-charter.html

Decision Policy: http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/decision-policy

Member List: https://www.w3.org/2004/01/pp-impl/83907/status

W3C Process for Busy People:
https://github.com/w3c/wg-effectiveness/blob/master/process.md


Resource: Webex & Teleconference Logistics
Teleconference Data: https://www.w3.org/2017/08/telecon-info_apa

Zoom Best Practices: https://www.w3.org/Guide/meetings/zoom.html


*IRC Logistics
IRC: server: irc.w3.org<unsafe:about:blank>, channel: #APA

IMPORTANT: Upon joining IRC, please identify yourself:
present+ [your_name]
Ex: present+ Janina_Sajka

* Some helpful Scribing and Participation Tips
http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/wiki/Teleconference_cheat_sheet


For more on the IRC setup and the robots we use for agenda and speaker
queuing and for posting the log to the web, see:

- For RRSAgent, that captures and posts the log with special attention
 to action items:
http://www.w3.org/2002/03/RRSAgent


- For Zakim, the IRC interface to the bridge manager, that will maintain
 speaker and agenda queues:
http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot


- For a Web gateway to IRC you can use if your network administrators
 forbid IRC, see:
http://www.w3.org/2001/01/cgi-irc


- For more on W3C use of IRC see:
http://www.w3.org/Project/IRC/


Becky Gibson | Sr. Accessibility Strategist, Knowbility.org becky@knowbility.org
Pronouns: she/her/hers

Co-chair Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group | W3C
Received on Wednesday, 6 January 2021 18:06:01 UTC