EPUB 3 Working Group Telco — Minutes
Date: 2021-09-30
See also the Agenda and the IRC Log
Attendees
Present: Murata Makoto, Toshiaki Koike, Ben Schroeter, Wendy Reid, Masakazu Kitahara, Brady Duga, Dave Cramer, Shinya Takami (高見真也), Matt Garrish
Regrets: Matthew Chan
Guests:
Chair: Wendy Reid
Scribe(s): Ben Schroeter
Content:
- 1. TPAC Registration
- 2. Global Language Support
- 3. Schema in EPUB Accessibility
- 4. Testing Update
- 5. Resolutions
1. TPAC Registration
Wendy Reid: See TPAC Registration page
Wendy Reid: don’t forget to register for TPAC
2. Global Language Support
See github issue #1809.
See github pull request #1816.
Matt Garrish: Global language support is talked about in EPUB3 overview… does it belong there?
Murata Makoto: no strong opinion, but at that time global language support was important to promote EPUB3; this is no longer the case.
Wendy Reid: change would make the overview more like a W3C document instead of a sales document
Matt Garrish: I’m good either way
Proposed resolution: Merge PR 1816, close issue 1809 (Wendy Reid)
Ben Schroeter: +1
Toshiaki Koike: +1
Brady Duga: +1
Shinya Takami (高見真也): +1
Murata Makoto: +1
Wendy Reid: +1
Matt Garrish: +1
Masakazu Kitahara: +1
Dan Lazin: +1
Dave Cramer: +1
Resolution #1: Merge PR 1816, close issue 1809
3. Schema in EPUB Accessibility
See github issue #1799.
See github pull request #1808.
Matt Garrish: we started off listing the schema.org
properties, then we went to the ISO version of the document where schema.org
is not considered very normative, so we referred to the techniques document… so we have to prove that schema.org
is a stable and valid reference
… we need to show there is a method for maintaining the vocabularies. Need to work with W3C; it is an ongoing conversation. Still in limbo until we have a proper home for the metadata.
Dave Cramer: can we merge the pull request?
Matt Garrish: would like to get a formal ok first from Ivan
Dave Cramer: we should merge it instead of leaving it hanging as we seek horizontal reviews, etc.
Wendy Reid: we reference schema elsewhere
Matt Garrish: we have a mapping file in those cases
Murata Makoto: can we use living document?
Wendy Reid: there are procedures for using living documents
Dave Cramer: can we propose to merge the PR?
Matt Garrish: it’s been referenced in other standards, yet we need to show stability even though it’s been allowed elsewhere
… need a repository and issue tracker to show that we maintain it properly
Murata Makoto: Registries are considered a back door for extending international standards; that’s why ISO doesn’t like it. Also there are fees associated.
Matt Garrish: it’s a gray area. It’s part of the web and we have to work with it.
Murata Makoto: Let’s make Ivan’s life interesting!
Proposed resolution: Merge PR 1808, leave issue 1799 open until schema issue is resolved (Wendy Reid)
Dave Cramer: +1
Shinya Takami (高見真也): +1
Murata Makoto: +1
Matt Garrish: +1
Wendy Reid: +1
Toshiaki Koike: +1
Masakazu Kitahara: +1
Dan Lazin: +1
Ben Schroeter: 0
Resolution #2: Merge PR 1808, leave issue 1799 open until schema issue is resolved
4. Testing Update
Wendy Reid: See Video of last weeks presentation
Wendy Reid: See EPUB test repository
Wendy Reid: We did an update on testing last week. Lot’s of updates to the testing repository. There’s a link to the video on how to create tests. Also step by step instructions.
… there are templates, you can create tests, snd track what’s been tested.
Dan Lazin: we’ve been tracking on a spreadsheet which may be obsolete with these better tools
Murata Makoto: do we need a test for every feature in EPUB3?
Dan Lazin: we need to test for every MUST and some SHOULDs
Wendy Reid: See See the description of testing
Dan Lazin: if you’re going to write a test, you should explain in the test repo what you are testing (and what not)
Wendy Reid: if there is an item you would like to see on the TPAC agenda, let us know.
Dave Cramer: TPAC may be our last chance to do big things in EPUB 3.3 - we don’t want to make major changes after CR unless it’s a result of testing
Dave Cramer: RRSAgent: bye
5. Resolutions
- Resolution #1: Merge PR 1816, close issue 1809
- Resolution #2: Merge PR 1808, leave issue 1799 open until schema issue is resolved