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<kaz> scribenick: dape
MK: Any update on Agenda?
... have been travelling recently
... Upcoming F2F is one topic
<kaz> F2F wiki
<kaz> Registration
<kaz> registration results so far
MK: recommend registering earlier than last time
<mkovatsc> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#15_Mar_2017
Kaz: japanese companies are
interested in joining open day events
... interest in plugfest as well
<mkovatsc> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_May_2017,_Osaka,_Japan
MK: Suggest adding information on F2F wiki
Kaz: Okay
<kaz> [ and done :) ]
Naka: for next F2F meeting...
please register as soon as possible
... are currently organizing dinner... would need number of
people soon
MK: Sebastian & Johannes are still on vacation.. will ping them as soon as they are back
<mkovatsc> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/WoTF2F201705/
MK: last meetings it was just in
time before meeting..
... suggest we do better this time
<mkovatsc> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_May_2017,_Osaka,_Japan#Input
MK: One more reminder... input
section for F2F is also still pretty empty
... OCP liason has meeting next week.. will join ... will not
be able to join WoT call
... will give presentation about WoT
... need to find common strategy
... joined plugfest could be also of interest
TK: TD telecon time has been
settled
... will start this week or next week (Friday)
... this week is not sure yet
<mkovatsc> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Thing_Description_WebConf
MK: Can you update wiki page
Kaz: Did update wiki.. should be
correct..
... Fridays at 3:30am EDT / 0:30am PDT / 8:30am CET / 4:30pm
JST
MK: Not sure about daylight saving time
<kaz> New TD slot (Member-only)
MK: Please check wiki page for
the exact time.. (will change due to summer time)
... For Scripting no one on the call
Kaz: Updated all task force
wikis
... will update again before 27th... to keep up with the exact
times
<taki> +q
MK: Darko, any news on Semantics?
Darko: we had first kick off
meeting
... 1. Charter review (by Dave)
... 2. I gaive presentation on scope (can be found on
wiki)
... please raise issues in github
... will have meeting this friday
... will consolidate issues w.r.t. to charter
<kaz> LD minutes
<inserted> LD TF wiki
Darko: this week 3 pm CET
(usually at 4 pm CET)
... would like to also invite more participants
... check wiki for scope/plans
... in direction to extending TD ontology
... also w.r.t. OCF work
... plan to work on more expand semantics
TK: Matsukura-san asked me to
report synchronization task force
... first telecon will be kicked-off beginning in April
... telecon time will likely be Tuesday
MK: Last Thursday/Friday I
attended T2T meeting
... Michael McCool also attended with OCF
... Security became more important
... Thorsten from Google
... Rich from Cisco
... Both are involved in the MUD work (manufacturer usage
description)
... kind of manifest file
... similar to Android App permissions
... proposal so far is just about what the manufacturer intends
to do
... see overlap with thing description
... could also include client role (currently more server
oriented)
... they also try to fix existing issues (DynDNS)
... yang model can be plugged in
... third person was Francesca from Ericsson
... proxies in the middle are possible (payload is still
secured)
... I would like to involve security persons in WoT ...
(reviewer role)
Koster: Jim Schaad also made a lot of comments
<mkovatsc> Thorsten Dahm, Google and Steven Rich, Cisco
MK: Friday joined session with
OCF
... rely more with what is out there
... doing so helps liason
... OCF makes use of IETF specification also
... also interested in WebForms
... and how to apply this to machines
... in TD we have similar concept (input vs output etc)
... planned to lay out Web forms with initial draft in IETF
Koster: actions as resource
types
... static part
... dynamic part
... add functionality that can be inspected
... I am writing that up currently.. will try to share soon
MK: in line with T2T forms (can be annotated)
Koster: HSML update is available also (for review)
MK: Could be good input for
HATEOS task force
... there will be HATEOS task force to improve actions and
error handling
... will add information to next F2F input section
... any update on technical work
MK: communication task force?
YY: last week I talked about 2
topics
... 1. press release (no response yet from Karen; will
follow-up)
... 2. participation in the WG (outreach)
... are looking for more people
MK: Need to figure out why IG people don't join WG
YY: Kaz prepared table for
outreach
... responsible person for each company
MK: Correct... also bi-literal
contacts
... need to update the list (https://www.w3.org/2016/07/WoT-outreach.html) (Member-only)
... add/select contact person
YY: will do that
MK: YY, you mentioned press
release
... which press release is it exactly
<mkovatsc> https://www.w3.org/2017/02/wot-f2f/slides/2017_F2F-Next.pdf
YY: For our first public working draft... timeline says this will happen in April
MK: we expect first public working draft after Düsseldorf F2F (in July)
YY: Thanks. No hurry
MK: In July it will be about
Architecture
... others are scheduled after March 2018
Kaz: 2 points
... 1. would be nice to have roadmap on wiki
... 2. talked about WG deliverables. I am wondering about IG
deliverables
<yingying> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Roadmap old roadmap wiki
MK: Correct, planned to publish
CP
... finalized several documents.. lost a bit track what has
been published
DP: suggest having a section in wiki with link to published version and link to editors draft
MK: In wiki we have links...
remember styling issues but somehow that work got stucked
... Kaz, can you check what has been released
Kaz: original plan was to publish
3 documents
... this failed
... can publish as IG note
MK: Need to take care.. regarding architecture, not confuse people with WG deliverables
Kaz: will check (tech landscape, use case and CP)
MK: One more "outreach"
topic
... roadmap more accessible
... on co-chairs list Dave started thread on cleaner landing
pages
... we do have to many pages anyhow
... propose having cleaner and more concise landing page
<yingying> https://www.w3.org/WoT/
MK: need someone updating the content
DP: might also harmonize styles
MK: send out proposal to staff
list... this morning
... get rid of things that get out-dated very quickly
... Styles should be harmonized also
... will discuss it in co-chair call
... input for next meeting.
... any presentation?
MC: w.r.t landing page.. need to
find volunteer
... "massage" it towards simplicity
... simple and concise
MK: Who can moderate next call?
MC: Need security people /talks for Osaka ...
MK: I will be at the OPC foundation meeting
MC: can moderate the call
Kaz: 9pm in Japan
<kaz> see also the main call wiki
[ adjourned ]