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Agenda of 11 June 2009 TAG teleconference

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1. Convene
   • Chair: Noah, Scribe: Dan Connolly (confirmed)
   • Roll call -- Regrets: Ashok, Henry, Tim, Larry
   • Note future regrets: Larry (June 2 -> just before F2F), Raman (F2F)
   • Agenda Review - this agenda
   • Next Telcon: 18 June 2009 Chair: Noah; Scribe: Ashok Malhotra (unconfirmed)
   • Future scribes: John -> Jonathan -> Larry
2. Approval of Minutes from previous telcons and meetings
   • 28 May 2009
3. Administrative items (Brief)
   • Sam Ruby is joining us on today's telcon for discussion of HTML.
   • Reminder that a Call for Exclusions has been sent for patents relating to the First Public Working Draft of our Finding on Usage Patterns For Client-Side URL parameters.
   • Reminder that chair has sent a summary of materials relating to TAG priorities and a request that the next round of discussions of goals and priorities be done using email, starting now. So far, only Tim has responded.
   • Reminder of future F2F meetings:
     • 23-25 June 2009 @ MIT - Link to draft agenda to be supplied (local arrangements - W3C member-only)
     • 22-24 Sept 2009 @ MIT
4. TagSoupIntegration-54 (ISSUE-54) and liaison with HTML working group
   • HTML Working Group chair Sam Ruby will be joining us for this discussion
   • Background:
     • On teleconference of 28 May 2009, the chair was asked to invite HTML WG chair Sam Ruby to join us on a TAG telcon soon, and/or to invite him to call in to one of our F2F sessions.
     • Efforts at AC meeting, etc., to bring HTML5 and XHTML communities together
     • Draft on versioning and HTML (originally prepared by Larry Masinter; checked into W3C URI space by Jonathan Rees (announcement email). NOTE: this document has not been reviewed in detail by other TAG members; it does not represent consensus of the TAG.
     • Microdata section in HTML 5 Draft Specification
   • Goals:
     • Get an update from Sam on areas of mutual interest, including efforts to bring HTML5/XHTML communities, RDFa discussions, etc.
     • Briefly review with Sam the work is doing in areas of potential interest for HTML
     • Explore how the TAG can be most helpful to the HTML WG and associated community
     • Review with Sam the TAG's tentative explorations of language versioning in the context of HTML (next topic)
5. LanguageVersioning-41 (formerly XMLVersioning-41) (ISSUE-41).
   • Background (recent):
     • ACTION-272 - Report back to the TAG on outcome of collaboration with LM on Versioning - on Jonathan Rees - Due on: 2009-06-04
     • Draft on versioning and HTML (originally prepared by Larry Masinter; checked into W3C URI space by Jonathan Rees (announcement email). NOTE: this document has not been reviewed in detail by other TAG members; it does not represent consensus of the TAG.
   • Background (older reference material):
     • Larry Masinter email update ISSUE-41, including announcement that Larry has "renamed this issue from 'XML Versioning' to 'Language Versioning', updated the description, and added a note about the direction [he hopes] our discussion will take" (29 April 2009)
     • Larry Masinter email Versioning and HTML - recap (1 May 2009)
     • Chair's message summarizing status of versioning work in the TAG (sent 24 March 2009).
     • Sam Ruby blog posting on HTML reunification
     • Larry Masinter review of TAG work on versioning
     • 9 April 2009 TAG teleconference discussion of versioning and 16 April 2009 TAG teleconference discussion of versioning (minutes not yet available).
     • HTML working group action 108 requests that the TAG consider HTML when working on versioning
     • The TAG had earlier decided not to actively pursue development of the finding on versioning.
     • TAG Blog posting: Version Identifiers Reconsidered
     • Thread starting with John Kemp email on updating AWWW good practice note on versioning
     • At 23 March 2009 AC meeting there was at least an informal sense that the AC wanted the TAG to help with the extensibility issue, primarily in the context of HTML. Tim took an action (from the AC, not the TAG) to see that the TAG takes a look at this.
     • The following TAG actions are open or pending under ISSUE-41:
       • ACTION-272 - Report back to the TAG on outcome of collaboration with LM on Versioning - on Jonathan Rees - Due on: 2009-06-04
   • Goals:
     • Review progress on ACTION 272
     • Continue consideration of Larry's recap note
     • Try to move toward framing discussion of versioning, in the context of HTML, for the June F2F
6. F2F Agenda Planning
   • Background
     • ACTION-271 Work with jar to draft strawman agenda for F2F - due 28 May 2009 (unclear whether a draft will be ready for discussion on Thurs. Will make best effort. [Noah])
     • Discussion of F2F planning from 28 May 2009 teleconference.
     • List of open actions
     • Draft agenda for the F2F
     • Email (member-only) outlining responsibilities of shepherds.
   • Goals
     • Review and refine the draft F2F agenda
     • Review responsibilities of shepherds.
7. Should the TAG look into architectural issues relating to APIs?
   • Background
     • ACTION-273 Carry forward framing issues around Archicture of APIs, with help from JK and LM - on Ashok Malhotra - Due 4 June 2009 - OPEN
     • ACTION-274 See if I can reconstruct a discussion with tlr where present course and speed will lead to GET-based links becoming regarded as unsafe - on Dan Connolly - PENDING REVIEW
     • Caja A source-to-source translator for securing Javascript-based web content (and similar architectures being considered for standardization in ECMAScript.
   • Goals
     • Review progress made by Ashok, John, and Larry in framing issues relating to Architecture of APIs for the Web
     • Determine whether this should be a serious are of focus for the TAG, and whether to devote time to it at the upcoming F2F.
     • Assign responsibility for next steps.
8. Pending Review Items:
   • Pending review actions in Tracker
9. Overdue Action Items:
   • Overdue actions in Tracker
10. Any other business