- From: <noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:07:28 -0500
- To: www-tag@w3.org
- Cc: "David Orchard" <orchard@pacificspirit.com>, rubys@us.ibm.com, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, "Paul Cotton" <pcotton@microsoft.com>
The TAG will meet at TPAC this afternoon at 1:30 PM. A (near) final
agenda is now available at [1,2]. Since the preliminary agenda was
announced [3] last night, I have added an item [4] on Efficient XML
Interchange, and I have added some references to other sections. Our main
goal will be prepare for our joint meeting with the HTML working group on
Thursday.
A text-only version of the agenda is attached below.
Noah
[1] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/tag-weekly
[2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/11/02-agenda
[3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Nov/0002.html
[4] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/11/02-agenda#exi
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Noah Mendelsohn
IBM Corporation
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Cambridge, MA 02142
1-617-693-4036
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[1] http://www.w3.org/
[2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/
[3] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/22-agenda
Agenda of 2 November 2009 TAG F2F Meeting at ([4]TPAC 2009)
[4] http://www.w3.org/2009/11/TPAC/
Note proposed start time: 1:30 PM
Nearby: [5]Teleconference details - [6]issues list and [7]Issue
Tracker ([8]handling new issues) - [9]www-tag archive - [10]tag
archive
1. Convene
+ Chair: Noah, Scribe: TBD
+ Roll call -- Regrets: John Kemp, Jonathan Rees
+ Note future regrets: Tim: [Nov 12, 19, 26; 3 December 3
(probable regrets)]; Noah: [Nov 19 & 26]
+ Agenda Review - [11]this agenda
+ Next Meeting: 6 November 2009 (morning - at [12]TPAC 2009)
Chair: Noah; Scribe: TBD
+ Future scribes: Ashok -> John -> Larry
2. Approve minutes of prior meeting(s)
+ Approve [13]Minutes of 23-25 September 2009 F2F
+ Approve [14]minutes of 8 October 2009
+ Approve [15]minutes of 22 October 2009
3. Administrative items
+ Appoint scribes
+ Reminder that, per [16]agreement on the 8th, our meetings
at TPAC have been moved to Monday afternoon and Friday
morning.
+ The TAG will hold a joint meeting with the HTML Working
group at TPAC on Thursday, after lunch. Exact time is still
TBD.
+ Proposal: next teleconference will be on Friday, 12 Nov.
Note that Noah will be unavailable on Nov. 19 and Nov. 26
(US Thanksgiving).
+ The chair thanks those "shepherds" who have responded to
the [17]request to update issue status. Other TAG members
are requested to update their issues as soon as practical.
+ Reminder of future F2F meetings:
o 8-10 December 2009 @ MIT (Per [18]resolution of 25
June 2009 - note that Raman and John Kemp have
confirmed the acceptability of this date, though Raman
is unsure he'll attend).
o 17-19 March 2010 @ MIT (per [19]decision at Sept. 2009
F2F)
4. Privacy policy
+ From [20]minutes of 8 Oct 2009: RESOLVED that that LMM edit
2009Sep/0073 lightly as discussed 8 Oct and Noah send to
Device APIs and Policy Working Group on behalf of the TAG
+ [21]ACTION-318 Send note to Device APIs and Policy (DAP)
Working Group on behalf of the TAG - on Noah Due: 15 Oct
2009
+ [22]ACTION-321 Bug Larry about his input to ACTION-318 - on
Noah Due: 29 Oct 2009
5. Efficient XML Interchange
+ Background:
o The TAG and EXI working groups held a discussion at
the 2008 Mandelieu TPAC. Taki Kamiya [23]provided a
summary of what we discussed. There were two main
subjects:
1. How to indicate use of EXI when transmitting XML
using HTTP
2. Request by the TAG for improvements to
performance analysis of EXI
o [24]ACTION-176 send comments on exi w.r.t. evaluation
and efficiency - on Noah CLOSED: 26 March 2009.
o (NEW) Taki informs the TAG that [25]content-coding tag
"exi" has been registered in the IANA registry. Taki
notes that: "This content-coding value will be
mentioned in the CR version of EXI specification which
is expected to be ready for publication soon after the
TPAC week."
+ Goals:
o Discuss the new exi content-coding token.
o Consider possible response from the TAG to the EXI
working group.
6. TPAC Meetings with HTML Working Group
+ Background:
o TAG will meet with W3C HTML Working Group on Thursday
5 November (afternoon exact time TBD -- Noah has query
in to HTML WG chairs)
o [26]Suggested list of TPAC discussion items for HTML
WG and TAG (responses from [27]Paul Cotten with
suggested reading; [28]Henry pointing out that the TAG
has a concern with the treatment of XHTML documents
served as text/html; Dan saying: [29]nope, not that
concern: what bothers me is requiring that any
document that "happens to conform to XML syntax MUST
be sent using the application/xhtml+xml media type";
Dan asking [30]has Microdata really been split out? )
o [31]Prioritized list of HTML-related issues,
originally developed at Sept. 2009 F2F. (An Open
Document Format [32].ods version and an Excel [33].xls
version are also available.)
+ Earlier background:
o Discussion of versioning and HTML at June 2009 TAG F2F
([34]session 1 and [35]session 2)
o June 2009 F2F discussion of [36]plans to review HTML 5
drafts
o [37]Architectural Considerations for Language
Versioning for the Web (Note from Larry Masinter and
Jonathan Rees)
o HTML working group intention to take HTML to W3C Last
Call sometime between October and December, 2009 (per
[38]note from HTML WG co-chair Sam Ruby)
o Paul Cotton and Maciej Stchowiak join Sam Ruby as HTML
WG co-chairs ([39]announcement)
o [40]Division of labour for TAG reading the HTML 5
draft specification that we [41]agreed to on July 23.
o Dan Connolly and Michael Sperberg-McQueen draft
[42]Web addresses in HTML 5, which is factored from
the HTML 5 draft. (see [43]email from Dan announcing
the draft). This was discussed on 23 April 2009 and
the associated [44]ACTION-253 requesting that Dan
brief us was closed.
o Ian Hickson [45]announces availability of initial
drafts of HTML 5 authoring specifications. This is, in
part, in response to a [46]suggestion made by Noah in
October 2008, shortly after the HTML/TAG joint working
group meeting at the Mandelieu Technical Plenary.
o Larry Masinter [47]announces new draft of
[48]Architectural Considerations for Language
Versioning for the Web . Chair's [49]response from
Noah (member-only).
+ TAG Issues relating to this discussion:
o [50]ISSUE-20 (errorHandling-20) What should
specifications say about error handling? shepherd:
Henry Thompson
o [51]ISSUE-33 (mixedUIXMLNamespace-33) Composability
for user interface-oriented XML namespaces (no
shepherd)
o [52]ISSUE-41 (LanguageVersioning-41) What are good
practices for designing extensible languages and for
handling versioning? shepherd: Larry Masinter
o [53]ISSUE-54 (TagSoupIntegration-54) Tag soup
integration. shepherd: Henry Thompson
+ TAG Actions relating to this discussion:
o [54]ACTION-299 on T.V. Raman: Notify the TAG when the
HTML WG gets closer to closing issue-4 html-versioning
- Due: 2009-10-15
o [55]ACTION-302 on Noah Mendelsohn: Raise (as
individual issue) question of 3 words "other
applicable specifictions" in 3.2.1 (3.3.1) of HTML 5
Due: 2009-10-20
o [56]ACTION-305 on Noah Mendelsohn: Schedule time at
TPAC for joint session with HTML WG - Due: 2009-10-15
(see: [57]email from Noah to HTML chairs)
o [58]ACTION-315 on Dan Connolly: Follow up on best plan
for HTML / TPAC PENDING REVIEW
o [59]ACTION-316 on Henry Thompson: Henry S. Thompson to
draft for tag@w3.org proposed TAG feedback on the
text/html media type registration in the 25 September
draft of HTML5 Due: 2009-10-02
o [60]ACTION-317 on T.V. Raman: Read
http://html5.digitalbazaar.com/specs/html5-epb.html
and send some notes to the TAG Due: 2009-10-20
o [61]ACTION-319 on Noah: Consider HTML media type issue
for TPAC agenda(s) PENDING REVIEW
+ Goals:
o Prepare for joint TAG/HTML disucussion on Thursday
o Review status of TAG actions and issues relating to
HTML -- plan next steps
7. [62]ISSUE-61: Forbidding hyperlinks (uriBasedPackageAccess-61)
+ Background (need to flesh out description of this agenda
item):
o Dan Connolly has requested that we discuss Widget
package scheme.
8. Pending Review Items:
+ [63]Pending review actions in [64]Tracker
9. Overdue Action Items:
+ [65]Overdue actions in [66]Tracker
10. Any other business
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[5] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/#telcon
[6] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues
[7] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/
[8] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Jul/0054.
[9] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/
[10] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/
[11] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/11/02-agenda
[12] http://www.w3.org/2009/11/TPAC/
[13] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/23-agenda
[14] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/08-minutes
[15] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/22-minutes
[16] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/08-minutes#item02
[17] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Oct/0051.html
[18] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/25-minutes.html#item03
[19] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/25-minutes.html#item04
[20] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/08-minutes#item05
[21] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/318
[22] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/321
[23] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Mar/0003.html
[24] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/176
[25] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Nov/0003.html
[26] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Oct/0077.html
[27] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Oct/0078.html
[28] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Oct/0082.html
[29] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Oct/0083.html
[30] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Oct/0085.html
[31] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/HTMLIssuesRevised.pdf
[32] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/HTMLIssues.ods
[33] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/HTMLIssues.xls
[34] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/23-minutes.html#item03
[35] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/24-minutes.html#item03
[36] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/25-minutes.html#item06
[37]
http://w3.org/2001/tag/doc/versioning-html/versioning-html-20090611.html
[38] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Aug/0058.html
[39] http://www.w3.org/News/2009#item148
[40] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Jul/0026.html
[41] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/07/23-minutes#item03
[42]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Mar/att-0444/draft.html
[43]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Mar/0444.html
[44] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/253
[45]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-comments/2009Jun/0016.html
[46]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-comments/2008Oct/0003.html
[47] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Aug/0064.html
[48] http://larry.masinter.net/tag-versioning.html
[49] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Aug/0037.html
[50] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/20
[51] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/33
[52] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/20
[53] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/54
[54] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/299
[55] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/302
[56] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/305
[57] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Oct/0018.html
[58] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/315
[59] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/316
[60] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/317
[61] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/319
[62] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/61
[63] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/pendingreview
[64] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/
[65] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/overdue
[66] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/
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