ISSUE-54

TagSoupIntegration-54

Tag soup integration

State:

OPEN

Product:

Raised by:

Henry S. Thompson

Opened on:

2006-10-17

Description:

Is the indefinite persistence of 'tag soup' HTML consistent with a sound architecture for the Web? If so, what changes, if any, to fundamental Web technologies are necessary to integrate 'tag soup' with SGML-valid HTML and well-formed XML?
 

Related Actions Items:

• ACTION-315 on Dan Connolly to Follow up on best plan for HTML / TPAC - due 2009-10-20, pending review
• ACTION-18 on David Orchard to Review the article and make a proposal. - due 2007-08-27, closed
• ACTION-19 on T.V. Raman to Update the tag soup document with the discussion thru 20 Aug 2007 - due 2007-08-27, closed
• ACTION-20 on Stuart Williams to Discuss with DanC what might be most useful and productive wrt providing input to the HTML WG - due 2007-09-06, closed
• ACTION-42 on Stuart Williams to Check with Dan - due 2007-09-06, closed
• ACTION-44 on David Orchard to Post his message to the HTML WG list - due 2007-09-13, closed
• ACTION-123 on David Orchard to Send pointers to MS and Ruby Namespace proposals - due 2008-03-20, closed
• ACTION-131 on Noah Mendelsohn to Wordsmith Stuart's P1 proposal - due 2008-04-10, closed
• ACTION-136 on Dan Connolly to Liaise with michael cooper on their expectations of the TAG - due 2008-04-17, closed
• ACTION-132 on Tim Berners-Lee to Draft to a stronger piece outlining when the ARIA approache would not be practical - due 2008-05-01, closed
• ACTION-141 on Henry S. Thompson to Henry to circulate the document with a cover note that expresses that the TAG now has a working hypothesis that the colon is technically feasible and invites continuing discussion. - due 2008-05-15, closed
• ACTION-160 on Stuart Williams to Check with Henry and Raman as whether they agree with the position - due 2008-06-05, closed
• ACTION-179 on Stuart Williams to Contact HTML WG chairs about TPAC possibilities... spec modularization, etc. - due 2008-10-02, closed
• ACTION-7 on Tim Berners-Lee to draft a position regarding extensibility of HTML and the role of the validator for consideration by the TAG - due 2008-12-11, closed
• ACTION-145 on Tim Berners-Lee to Add public prose around his slides at the AC meeting to make the case for extensiblity and flexible XML - due 2008-12-11, closed
• ACTION-226 on Dan Connolly to Report at March on tagSoup progress since TPAC - due 2009-02-24, closed
• ACTION-255 on John Kemp to Contact Sam to ask (a) how can the TAG be helpful (b) offer set up phone call involving Sam & 1 or 2 others - due 2009-05-13, closed
• ACTION-292 on Noah Mendelsohn to Alert group to review HTML Authoring Drafts [trivial] [self-assigned] - due 2009-10-13, open

Related emails:

1. Final agenda for TAG F2F on 2 Nov 2009 (Today) (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-11-02)
2. Re: Preliminary agenda for TAG F2F meeting of 2 Nov 2009 (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-11-02)
3. Preliminary agenda for TAG F2F meeting of 2 Nov 2009 (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-11-02)
4. Re: Agenda for TAG Teleconference of 22 October 2009 (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-10-22)
5. Re: Agenda for TAG Teleconference of 22 October 2009 (from jar@creativecommons.org on 2009-10-22)
6. Re: Agenda for TAG Teleconference of 22 October 2009 (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-10-22)
7. Agenda for TAG Teleconference of 22 October 2009 (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-10-21)
8. Re: Agenda for TAG Teleconference of 8 Oct 2009 (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-10-07)
9. Agenda for TAG Teleconference of 8 Oct 2009 (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-10-07)
10. Re: Agenda for TAG Teleconference of 1 Oct 2009 (Today) (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-10-01)
11. Agenda for TAG Teleconference of 1 Oct 2009 (Today) (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-10-01)
12. Re: URGENT: Preparing for next round of TAG Review of HTML 5 (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-09-02)
13. Re: URGENT: Preparing for next round of TAG Review of HTML 5 (from ashok.malhotra@oracle.com on 2009-09-02)
14. URGENT: Preparing for next round of TAG Review of HTML 5 (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-09-01)
15. Agenda for TAG teleconference of 23 July 2009 (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-07-21)
16. [ISSUE-54] W3C Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) about the future of XHTML (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-07-14)
17. TAG minutes 11 Jun for review: TagSoupIntegration-54 (ISSUE-54), ... (from connolly@w3.org on 2009-06-11)
18. Agenda for TAG Teleconference of 11 June 2009 (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-06-09)
19. Minutes of TAG telcon 2009-05-28 (from ht@inf.ed.ac.uk (Henry S. Thompson) on 2009-05-29)
20. Agenda for TAG teleconference of 28 May 2009 (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-05-27)
21. Approved minutes of the TAG F2F of 3-5 March 2009 (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-04-02)
22. Setting TAG Priorities - Review of discussion and planning to date (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-03-22)
23. Agenda for TAG Face-to-Face Meeting, 3-5 March 2009 (Redwood Shores, CA) (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-02-25)
24. 'Syntax and semantics for embedding RDF in XHTML' TAG issue addressed by RDFa and GRDDL (RDFinHTML-35) (from connolly@w3.org on 2008-12-04)
25. [tag] <none> (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2008-11-20)
26. TAG Telcon Agenda for 20th Nov 2008: tagSoupIntegration-54; uriBasedPackageAccess-61; schemeProtocol-49; Safe Javascript; Dec F2F Planning; AOB (from skw@hp.com on 2008-11-19)
27. Re: Draft Minutes from TAG Telcon of 6th November 2008 Available (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2008-11-12)
28. Draft Minutes from TAG Telcon of 6th November 2008 Available (from skw@hp.com on 2008-11-12)
29. TAG Telcn Agenda, 6th Nov 2008: Content Transformation Guidelines; urnsAndRegistries-50; Webarch and WS; tagSoupIntegration-54; uriBasedPackageAccess-61; TPAC Followup; F2F Planning. (from skw@hp.com on 2008-11-05)
30. Agenda Draft for 6th Nov (was RE: TAG Tecon 6th Nov: Request for Agenda Items.) (from skw@hp.com on 2008-11-04)
31. TAG Telcon Agenda for 2nd October 2008: abbreviatedURI-56; WS-* ; Content Transformation Guidlines LC Review Req; httpRedirection-57; passwordInTheClear-52; tagSoupIntegration-54; TAG@TPAC (from skw@hp.com on 2008-10-01)
32. Re: TAG Telcon Agenda Draft for 2nd October 2008 (from ashok.malhotra@oracle.com on 2008-10-01)
33. TAG Telcon Agenda Draft for 2nd October 2008 (from skw@hp.com on 2008-10-01)
34. Re: TAG weekly telcon agenda for 11 Sep 2008: XMLVersioning-41; binaryXML-30; UrnsAndRegistries-50; Self-Describing Web; F2F Agenda; tagSoupIntegration-54; abreviateURIs-56; WS-* inquiry; Content-Transformation Guidelines review request; htpRedirecti (from orchard@pacificspirit.com on 2008-09-10)
35. TAG weekly telcon agenda for 11 Sep 2008: XMLVersioning-41; binaryXML-30; UrnsAndRegistries-50; Self-Describing Web; F2F Agenda; tagSoupIntegration-54; abreviateURIs-56; WS-* inquiry; Content-Transformation Guidelines review request; htpRedirections-57 (from skw@hp.com on 2008-09-10)
36. minutes TAG weekly 4 Sep for review: tagSoupIntegration-54, abbreviatedURI-56 (from connolly@w3.org on 2008-09-04)
37. TAG Telcon Agenda 4th Sept 2008: tagSoupIntegration-54; abbreviatedURIs-56; XMLVersioning-41; F2F Agenda;httpRedirections-57; Open Action Items (from skw@hp.com on 2008-09-03)
38. RE: Draft agenda for TAG telcon 16th Sept 2008 available (from skw@hp.com on 2008-09-02)
39. Re: Draft agenda for TAG telcon 16th Sept 2008 available (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2008-09-02)
40. Draft agenda for TAG telcon 16th Sept 2008 available (from skw@hp.com on 2008-09-02)
41. TAG 'back-to-school' Telcon Agenda: 28th Aug 2008: Review Requests; F2F Agenda; UrnsAndRegistries-50; passwordsInTheClear-52; contentTypeOverride-24; tagSoupIntegration-54 (from skw@hp.com on 2008-08-28)
42. Initial Draft agenda for 28th Aug TAG telcon. (from skw@hp.com on 2008-08-26)
43. Draft minutes from TAG telcon of 2008-07-24, plain text (from ht@inf.ed.ac.uk (Henry S. Thompson) on 2008-07-25)
44. TAG Telcon Agenda for 24th July 2008: contentTypeOverride-24; tagsoupIntegration-54; UrnsAndRegistries-50 (from skw@hp.com on 2008-07-23)
45. Draft agenda for TAG Telcon 24th July 2008 (from skw@hp.com on 2008-07-22)
46. TAG Telcon cancelled this week (was RE: TAG Weekly Telcon Agenda: 17th July 2008: contentTypeOverride-24; tagSoupIntegration-54; urnsAndregistries-50) (from skw@hp.com on 2008-07-17)
47. TAG Weekly Telcon Agenda: 17th July 2008: contentTypeOverride-24; tagSoupIntegration-54; urnsAndregistries-50 (from skw@hp.com on 2008-07-16)
48. Draft agenda fro Thursdays TAG call (17th July) (from skw@hp.com on 2008-07-15)
49. TAG Telcon Agenda: 19th June 2008: New Items? (Widgets URI Scheme); scalabilityOfURIAccess-38; XMLVersioning-41;tagSoupIntegration-54;Action Item Review (from skw@hp.com on 2008-06-18)
50. TAG Telcon Agenda: 12th June 2008: namespaceDocument-8;passwordInTheClear-52;tagSoupIntegration-54;UrnsAndRegistries-50;XMLVersioning-41 (from skw@hp.com on 2008-06-11)
51. TAG Telcon Agenda for 5th June 2008: UrnsAndregistries-50; tagSoupIntegration-54;passwordsInTheClear-52; XMLVersioning-41 (from skw@hp.com on 2008-06-04)
52. DRAFT Minutes from TAG Telcon 29th May 2008 (from skw@hp.com on 2008-06-02)
53. TAG Telcon Agenda for 29th May 2008: UrnsAndRegistries-50; passwordInTheClear-52; tagSoupIntegration-54; XMLVersioning-41 (from skw@hp.com on 2008-05-28)
54. TAG Telcon agenda fro 8th May 2008: httpredirections-57; tagSoupIntegration-54; passwordsInThClear-52; webApplicationState-60 (from skw@hp.com on 2008-05-07)
55. RE: TAG Telcon Agenda for 1st May 2008: tagSoupIntegration-54; UrnsAndRegistries-50; passwordsInTheClear-52; abbreviatedURIs-56 (from dorchard@bea.com on 2008-05-01)
56. RE: TAG Telcon Agenda for 1st May 2008: tagSoupIntegration-54; UrnsAndRegistries-50; passwordsInTheClear-52; abbreviatedURIs-56 (from dorchard@bea.com on 2008-04-30)
57. TAG Telcon Agenda for 1st May 2008: tagSoupIntegration-54; UrnsAndRegistries-50; passwordsInTheClear-52; abbreviatedURIs-56 (from skw@hp.com on 2008-04-30)
58. minutes TAG weekly 17 Apr: httpRedirections-57, tagSoupIntegration-54 (from connolly@w3.org on 2008-04-17)
59. TAG Telcon Agenda for 17th April 2008: httpRedirections-57; tagSoupIntegration-54; UrnsAndRegistries-50 (from skw@hp.com on 2008-04-16)
60. Re: measuring popularity of various markup idioms? [tagSoupIntegration ISSUE-54] (from karl@w3.org on 2008-04-10)
61. measuring popularity of various markup idioms? [tagSoupIntegration ISSUE-54] (from connolly@w3.org on 2008-04-09)
62. TAG Telcon Agenda: 10th April 2008: XMLVersioning-41; passwordsInTheClear-52;tagSoupIntegration-54;UrnsAndRegistries-50 (from skw@hp.com on 2008-04-09)
63. TAG Telcon Agenda for 3rd Aprill 2008: RDFinXML-35; tagSoupIntegration-54;UrnsAndRegistries-50; (from skw@hp.com on 2008-04-02)
64. TAG Telcon agenda: 27th March 2008: abbreviatedURI-56; RDFinXHTML-35; tagSoupIntegration-54; UrnsAndRegistries-50 (from skw@hp.com on 2008-03-26)
65. ARIA and ISSUE-54 (from timbl@w3.org on 2008-03-21)
66. TAG Weekly Telcon Agenda: 20th March 2008 (from skw@hp.com on 2008-03-19)
67. TAG Telcon Agenda: 13th March 2008: webApplicationState-60; tagSoupIntegration-54; UrnsAndRegistries-50; httpRedirections-57 (from skw@hp.com on 2008-03-12)
68. RE: TAG Telcon Agenda for 31st January 2008: 2008 F2F Schedule; tagSoupIntegration-54; contentTypeOverride-24;passwordsInTheClear-52;Vancouver F2F. (from skw@hp.com on 2008-01-30)
69. Re: TAG Telcon Agenda for 31st January 2008: 2008 F2F Schedule; tagSoupIntegration-54; contentTypeOverride-24;passwordsInTheClear-52;Vancouver F2F. (from ashok.malhotra@oracle.com on 2008-01-30)
70. TAG Telcon Agenda for 31st January 2008: 2008 F2F Schedule; tagSoupIntegration-54; contentTypeOverride-24;passwordsInTheClear-52;Vancouver F2F. (from skw@hp.com on 2008-01-30)
71. TAG Telcon Minutes: 18th Oct 2007 (from ndw@nwalsh.com on 2007-10-18)
72. HTML validation and extensibility, update [tagSoupIntegration-54 ISSUE-54] [ISSUE-33 mixedUIXMLNamespace-33] (from connolly@w3.org on 2007-10-17)
73. HTML WG discusses SVG in text/html [tagSoupIntegration-54 ISSUE-54] (from connolly@w3.org on 2007-10-17)
74. TAG Telcon Agenda: 18th Oct 2007: IETF/W3C mtg; tagSoupIntegration-54; IRIEverywhere-27; UrnsAndRegistries; httpRedirections-57; Nov F2F (from skw@hp.com on 2007-10-17)
75. TAG meeting 17-19 Sep in Southampton: minutes/summary (from connolly@w3.org on 2007-10-04)
76. RE: TAG Weekly Telcon Agenda for 6th September 2007: tagSoupIntegration-54; namespaceDocument-8; XMLVersioning-41 (from dorchard@bea.com on 2007-09-06)
77. RE: TAG Weekly Telcon Agenda for 6th September 2007: tagSoupIntegration-54; namespaceDocument-8; XMLVersioning-41 (from skw@hp.com on 2007-09-05)
78. Re: TAG Weekly Telcon Agenda for 6th September 2007: tagSoupIntegration-54; namespaceDocument-8; XMLVersioning-41 (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2007-09-05)
79. TAG Weekly Telcon Agenda for 6th September 2007: tagSoupIntegration-54; namespaceDocument-8; XMLVersioning-41 (from skw@hp.com on 2007-09-05)
80. Re: Draft Agenda for TAG F2F 17-19th September 2007 at University of Southampton (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2007-09-04)
81. Draft Agenda for TAG F2F 17-19th September 2007 at University of Southampton (from skw@hp.com on 2007-09-04)
82. Draft Minutes for TAG call on 30th Aug 2007 (from skw@hp.com on 2007-09-04)
83. TAG Telcon Agenda for Thursday 30th August 2007 (from skw@hp.com on 2007-08-29)
84. TAG in Mountain View (from on 2007-05-31)
85. W3C TAG Teleconference - 23 April 2007 (from on 2007-04-23)
86. Technical Architecture Group (from on 2007-04-16)
87. TAG Weekly Telcon 26th March 2007 (from on 2007-03-26)
88. TAG telcon (from on 2007-03-19)
89. W3C Technical Architecture Group (TAG) Face to Face Meeting - 7 March 2007 (Afternoon) (from on 2007-03-07)
90. TAG f2f (from on 2007-03-07)
91. (from on 2007-02-05)
92. TAG f2f (from on 2006-12-12)
93. TAG F2F Meeting, Boston 11 Dec 2006 (from on 2006-12-11)
94. Technical Architecture Group (from on 2006-11-07)
95. TAG telcon (from on 2006-10-31)
96. (from on 2006-10-24)
97. Draft description of new TAG issue TagSoupIntegration-54 (from Henry S. Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> on 2006-10-24)
98. (from on 2006-10-24)
99. (from on 2006-10-24)
100. TAG telcon (from on 2006-10-17)
101. W3C Technical Architecture Group (TAG) Face to Face Meeting - 7 March 2007 (Afternoon) (from on 2001-01-01)

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