ISSUE-54: Tag soup integration
TagSoupIntegration-54
Tag soup integration
- State:
- OPEN
- Product:
- HTML 5 review
- Raised by:
- Henry S. Thompson
- Opened on:
- 2006-10-17
- Description:
- Is the indefinite persistence of 'tag soup' HTML consistent with a sound architecture for the Web? If so, what changes, if any, to fundamental Web technologies are necessary to integrate 'tag soup' with SGML-valid HTML and well-formed XML?
- Related Actions Items:
ACTION-18 on David Orchard to Review the article and make a proposal. - due 2007-08-27, closedACTION-19 on T.V. Raman to Update the tag soup document with the discussion thru 20 Aug 2007 - due 2007-08-27, closedACTION-20 on Stuart Williams to Discuss with DanC what might be most useful and productive wrt providing input to the HTML WG - due 2007-09-06, closedACTION-42 on Stuart Williams to Check with Dan - due 2007-09-06, closedACTION-44 on David Orchard to Post his message to the HTML WG list - due 2007-09-13, closedACTION-123 on David Orchard to Send pointers to MS and Ruby Namespace proposals - due 2008-03-20, closedACTION-131 on Noah Mendelsohn to Wordsmith Stuart's P1 proposal - due 2008-04-10, closedACTION-136 on Dan Connolly to Liaise with michael cooper on their expectations of the TAG - due 2008-04-17, closedACTION-132 on Tim Berners-Lee to Draft to a stronger piece outlining when the ARIA approache would not be practical - due 2008-05-01, closedACTION-141 on Henry Thompson to Henry to circulate the document with a cover note that expresses that the TAG now has a working hypothesis that the colon is technically feasible and invites continuing discussion. - due 2008-05-15, closedACTION-160 on Stuart Williams to Check with Henry and Raman as whether they agree with the position - due 2008-06-05, closedACTION-179 on Stuart Williams to Contact HTML WG chairs about TPAC possibilities... spec modularization, etc. - due 2008-10-02, closedACTION-7 on Tim Berners-Lee to draft a position regarding extensibility of HTML and the role of the validator for consideration by the TAG - due 2008-12-11, closedACTION-145 on Tim Berners-Lee to Add public prose around his slides at the AC meeting to make the case for extensiblity and flexible XML - due 2008-12-11, closedACTION-226 on Dan Connolly to Report at March on tagSoup progress since TPAC - due 2009-02-24, closedACTION-255 on John Kemp to Contact Sam to ask (a) how can the TAG be helpful (b) offer set up phone call involving Sam & 1 or 2 others - due 2009-05-13, closedACTION-313 on John Kemp to Talk to Balisage participants about XML namespace work, discuss TAG interest in this area, and summarize - due 2009-11-18, closedACTION-327 on Henry Thompson to Review Microsoft's namespaces in HTML 5 proposal - due 2009-11-19, closedACTION-395 on Noah Mendelsohn to Guide TAG to a response on HTML decentralized extensibility (self-assigned) - due 2010-03-23, closedACTION-356 on Noah Mendelsohn to Work with Carine Bournez to schedule followup meeting on xmlnames followup discussion - due 2010-03-27, closedACTION-374 on Noah Mendelsohn to Schedule discussion of broader extensibility mechanisms question (including this) http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2010Jan/0043.html - due 2010-04-01, closedACTION-426 on Noah Mendelsohn to Noah to follow up on April 1 discussion of resource/representations (self-assigned) - due 2010-04-20, closedACTION-357 on Henry Thompson to Elaborate the DPD proposal to address comments from #xmlnames and tag f2f discussion of 2009-12-10, particularly wrt integration with XML specs and wrt motivation - due 2010-05-17, closedACTION-433 on Tim Berners-Lee to Help Tim get in touch with staff etc. re XML/HTML unification - due 2010-05-28, closedACTION-335 on Dan Connolly to Remind us about data-* when progress on distributed extensibility next becomes available - due 2010-06-15, closedACTION-471 on Noah Mendelsohn to Schedule discussion of "Like SVG" Dist Extensibility Proposal for HTML5 - due 2010-09-28, closedACTION-427 on John Kemp to Read 4 distributed extensibility proposals and summarize them w.r.t. proposals TAG has discussed to date - due 2010-11-01, closed- Related emails:
- Minutes of the TAG F2F of 19-21 October 2010 are now ready for review (from nrm@arcanedomain.com on 2010-10-30)
- Final Agenda for TAG F2F 19-21 October 2010 (from nrm@arcanedomain.com on 2010-10-14)
- Agenda for TAG F2F of October 19-21 2010 (from nrm@arcanedomain.com on 2010-10-13)
- Draft TAG telcon minutes of 12th August 2010 (from jar@creativecommons.org on 2010-08-17)
- refs on new issue (from timbl@w3.org on 2010-08-12)
- Agenda for TAG F2F Meeting 7-9 June 2010 (from nrm@arcanedomain.com on 2010-06-01)
- Agenda for TAG teleconference of 15 April 2010 (from noah@arcanedomain.com on 2010-04-14)
- minutes TAG meeting 24-26 March in Cambridge, MA, USA for review (from connolly@w3.org on 2010-04-12)
- Draft Agenda of 24-26 March 2010 (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2010-03-19)
- Draft minutes of TAG teleconference of 11 March 2010 (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2010-03-19)
- Re: draft minutes 3/11 (from ashok.malhotra@oracle.com on 2010-03-13)
- draft minutes 3/11 (from LMM@acm.org on 2010-03-11)
- TAG Members: please reviews status of issues you 'shepherd' by Monday, 8 March (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2010-03-03)
- Re: Fw: [Fwd: ISSUE-41: decentralized-extensibility - Chairs Solicit Proposals] (from connolly@w3.org on 2010-02-24)
- Re: suggestions for next week's agenda as a result of today's meeting (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2010-02-04)
- suggestions for next week's agenda as a result of today's meeting (from connolly@w3.org on 2010-02-04)
- minutes TAG weekly 7 Jan for review (from connolly@w3.org on 2010-01-07)
- Re: Agenda and required reading for the 8-10 December 2009 TAG F2F (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-12-07)
- Re: Agenda and required reading for the 8-10 December 2009 TAG F2F (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-12-03)
- Agenda and required reading for the 8-10 December 2009 TAG F2F (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-12-02)
- agenda for TAG meeting 8-10 Dec (from connolly@w3.org on 2009-11-25)
- Re: Draft minutes of TAG teleconference, 12th November 2009 (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-11-17)
- Draft minutes of TAG teleconference, 12th November 2009 (from john@jkemp.net on 2009-11-17)
- suggestion for 19 Nov agenda (from connolly@w3.org on 2009-11-16)
- Final agenda for TAG F2F on 2 Nov 2009 (Today) (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-11-02)
- Re: Preliminary agenda for TAG F2F meeting of 2 Nov 2009 (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-11-02)
- Preliminary agenda for TAG F2F meeting of 2 Nov 2009 (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-11-02)
- Re: Agenda for TAG Teleconference of 22 October 2009 (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-10-22)
- Re: Agenda for TAG Teleconference of 22 October 2009 (from jar@creativecommons.org on 2009-10-22)
- Re: Agenda for TAG Teleconference of 22 October 2009 (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-10-22)
- Agenda for TAG Teleconference of 22 October 2009 (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-10-21)
- Re: Agenda for TAG Teleconference of 8 Oct 2009 (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-10-07)
- Agenda for TAG Teleconference of 8 Oct 2009 (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-10-07)
- Re: Agenda for TAG Teleconference of 1 Oct 2009 (Today) (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-10-01)
- Agenda for TAG Teleconference of 1 Oct 2009 (Today) (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-10-01)
- Re: URGENT: Preparing for next round of TAG Review of HTML 5 (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-09-02)
- Re: URGENT: Preparing for next round of TAG Review of HTML 5 (from ashok.malhotra@oracle.com on 2009-09-02)
- URGENT: Preparing for next round of TAG Review of HTML 5 (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-09-01)
- Agenda for TAG teleconference of 23 July 2009 (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-07-21)
- [ISSUE-54] W3C Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) about the future of XHTML (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-07-14)
- TAG minutes 11 Jun for review: TagSoupIntegration-54 (ISSUE-54), ... (from connolly@w3.org on 2009-06-11)
- Agenda for TAG Teleconference of 11 June 2009 (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-06-09)
- Minutes of TAG telcon 2009-05-28 (from ht@inf.ed.ac.uk (Henry S. Thompson) on 2009-05-29)
- Agenda for TAG teleconference of 28 May 2009 (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-05-27)
- Approved minutes of the TAG F2F of 3-5 March 2009 (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-04-02)
- Setting TAG Priorities - Review of discussion and planning to date (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-03-22)
- Agenda for TAG Face-to-Face Meeting, 3-5 March 2009 (Redwood Shores, CA) (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-02-25)
- 'Syntax and semantics for embedding RDF in XHTML' TAG issue addressed by RDFa and GRDDL (RDFinHTML-35) (from connolly@w3.org on 2008-12-04)
- [tag] <none> (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2008-11-20)
- TAG Telcon Agenda for 20th Nov 2008: tagSoupIntegration-54; uriBasedPackageAccess-61; schemeProtocol-49; Safe Javascript; Dec F2F Planning; AOB (from skw@hp.com on 2008-11-19)
- Re: Draft Minutes from TAG Telcon of 6th November 2008 Available (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2008-11-12)
- Draft Minutes from TAG Telcon of 6th November 2008 Available (from skw@hp.com on 2008-11-12)
- TAG Telcn Agenda, 6th Nov 2008: Content Transformation Guidelines; urnsAndRegistries-50; Webarch and WS; tagSoupIntegration-54; uriBasedPackageAccess-61; TPAC Followup; F2F Planning. (from skw@hp.com on 2008-11-05)
- Agenda Draft for 6th Nov (was RE: TAG Tecon 6th Nov: Request for Agenda Items.) (from skw@hp.com on 2008-11-04)
- TAG Telcon Agenda for 2nd October 2008: abbreviatedURI-56; WS-* ; Content Transformation Guidlines LC Review Req; httpRedirection-57; passwordInTheClear-52; tagSoupIntegration-54; TAG@TPAC (from skw@hp.com on 2008-10-01)
- Re: TAG Telcon Agenda Draft for 2nd October 2008 (from ashok.malhotra@oracle.com on 2008-10-01)
- TAG Telcon Agenda Draft for 2nd October 2008 (from skw@hp.com on 2008-10-01)
- Re: TAG weekly telcon agenda for 11 Sep 2008: XMLVersioning-41; binaryXML-30; UrnsAndRegistries-50; Self-Describing Web; F2F Agenda; tagSoupIntegration-54; abreviateURIs-56; WS-* inquiry; Content-Transformation Guidelines review request; htpRedirecti (from orchard@pacificspirit.com on 2008-09-10)
- TAG weekly telcon agenda for 11 Sep 2008: XMLVersioning-41; binaryXML-30; UrnsAndRegistries-50; Self-Describing Web; F2F Agenda; tagSoupIntegration-54; abreviateURIs-56; WS-* inquiry; Content-Transformation Guidelines review request; htpRedirections-57 (from skw@hp.com on 2008-09-10)
- minutes TAG weekly 4 Sep for review: tagSoupIntegration-54, abbreviatedURI-56 (from connolly@w3.org on 2008-09-04)
- TAG Telcon Agenda 4th Sept 2008: tagSoupIntegration-54; abbreviatedURIs-56; XMLVersioning-41; F2F Agenda;httpRedirections-57; Open Action Items (from skw@hp.com on 2008-09-03)
- RE: Draft agenda for TAG telcon 16th Sept 2008 available (from skw@hp.com on 2008-09-02)
- Re: Draft agenda for TAG telcon 16th Sept 2008 available (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2008-09-02)
- Draft agenda for TAG telcon 16th Sept 2008 available (from skw@hp.com on 2008-09-02)
- TAG 'back-to-school' Telcon Agenda: 28th Aug 2008: Review Requests; F2F Agenda; UrnsAndRegistries-50; passwordsInTheClear-52; contentTypeOverride-24; tagSoupIntegration-54 (from skw@hp.com on 2008-08-28)
- Initial Draft agenda for 28th Aug TAG telcon. (from skw@hp.com on 2008-08-26)
- Draft minutes from TAG telcon of 2008-07-24, plain text (from ht@inf.ed.ac.uk (Henry S. Thompson) on 2008-07-25)
- TAG Telcon Agenda for 24th July 2008: contentTypeOverride-24; tagsoupIntegration-54; UrnsAndRegistries-50 (from skw@hp.com on 2008-07-23)
- Draft agenda for TAG Telcon 24th July 2008 (from skw@hp.com on 2008-07-22)
- TAG Telcon cancelled this week (was RE: TAG Weekly Telcon Agenda: 17th July 2008: contentTypeOverride-24; tagSoupIntegration-54; urnsAndregistries-50) (from skw@hp.com on 2008-07-17)
- TAG Weekly Telcon Agenda: 17th July 2008: contentTypeOverride-24; tagSoupIntegration-54; urnsAndregistries-50 (from skw@hp.com on 2008-07-16)
- Draft agenda fro Thursdays TAG call (17th July) (from skw@hp.com on 2008-07-15)
- TAG Telcon Agenda: 19th June 2008: New Items? (Widgets URI Scheme); scalabilityOfURIAccess-38; XMLVersioning-41;tagSoupIntegration-54;Action Item Review (from skw@hp.com on 2008-06-18)
- TAG Telcon Agenda: 12th June 2008: namespaceDocument-8;passwordInTheClear-52;tagSoupIntegration-54;UrnsAndRegistries-50;XMLVersioning-41 (from skw@hp.com on 2008-06-11)
- TAG Telcon Agenda for 5th June 2008: UrnsAndregistries-50; tagSoupIntegration-54;passwordsInTheClear-52; XMLVersioning-41 (from skw@hp.com on 2008-06-04)
- DRAFT Minutes from TAG Telcon 29th May 2008 (from skw@hp.com on 2008-06-02)
- TAG Telcon Agenda for 29th May 2008: UrnsAndRegistries-50; passwordInTheClear-52; tagSoupIntegration-54; XMLVersioning-41 (from skw@hp.com on 2008-05-28)
- TAG Telcon agenda fro 8th May 2008: httpredirections-57; tagSoupIntegration-54; passwordsInThClear-52; webApplicationState-60 (from skw@hp.com on 2008-05-07)
- RE: TAG Telcon Agenda for 1st May 2008: tagSoupIntegration-54; UrnsAndRegistries-50; passwordsInTheClear-52; abbreviatedURIs-56 (from dorchard@bea.com on 2008-05-01)
- RE: TAG Telcon Agenda for 1st May 2008: tagSoupIntegration-54; UrnsAndRegistries-50; passwordsInTheClear-52; abbreviatedURIs-56 (from dorchard@bea.com on 2008-04-30)
- TAG Telcon Agenda for 1st May 2008: tagSoupIntegration-54; UrnsAndRegistries-50; passwordsInTheClear-52; abbreviatedURIs-56 (from skw@hp.com on 2008-04-30)
- minutes TAG weekly 17 Apr: httpRedirections-57, tagSoupIntegration-54 (from connolly@w3.org on 2008-04-17)
- TAG Telcon Agenda for 17th April 2008: httpRedirections-57; tagSoupIntegration-54; UrnsAndRegistries-50 (from skw@hp.com on 2008-04-16)
- Re: measuring popularity of various markup idioms? [tagSoupIntegration ISSUE-54] (from karl@w3.org on 2008-04-10)
- measuring popularity of various markup idioms? [tagSoupIntegration ISSUE-54] (from connolly@w3.org on 2008-04-09)
- TAG Telcon Agenda: 10th April 2008: XMLVersioning-41; passwordsInTheClear-52;tagSoupIntegration-54;UrnsAndRegistries-50 (from skw@hp.com on 2008-04-09)
- TAG Telcon Agenda for 3rd Aprill 2008: RDFinXML-35; tagSoupIntegration-54;UrnsAndRegistries-50; (from skw@hp.com on 2008-04-02)
- TAG Telcon agenda: 27th March 2008: abbreviatedURI-56; RDFinXHTML-35; tagSoupIntegration-54; UrnsAndRegistries-50 (from skw@hp.com on 2008-03-26)
- ARIA and ISSUE-54 (from timbl@w3.org on 2008-03-21)
- TAG Weekly Telcon Agenda: 20th March 2008 (from skw@hp.com on 2008-03-19)
- TAG Telcon Agenda: 13th March 2008: webApplicationState-60; tagSoupIntegration-54; UrnsAndRegistries-50; httpRedirections-57 (from skw@hp.com on 2008-03-12)
- RE: TAG Telcon Agenda for 31st January 2008: 2008 F2F Schedule; tagSoupIntegration-54; contentTypeOverride-24;passwordsInTheClear-52;Vancouver F2F. (from skw@hp.com on 2008-01-30)
- Re: TAG Telcon Agenda for 31st January 2008: 2008 F2F Schedule; tagSoupIntegration-54; contentTypeOverride-24;passwordsInTheClear-52;Vancouver F2F. (from ashok.malhotra@oracle.com on 2008-01-30)
- TAG Telcon Agenda for 31st January 2008: 2008 F2F Schedule; tagSoupIntegration-54; contentTypeOverride-24;passwordsInTheClear-52;Vancouver F2F. (from skw@hp.com on 2008-01-30)
- TAG Telcon Minutes: 18th Oct 2007 (from ndw@nwalsh.com on 2007-10-18)
- HTML validation and extensibility, update [tagSoupIntegration-54 ISSUE-54] [ISSUE-33 mixedUIXMLNamespace-33] (from connolly@w3.org on 2007-10-17)
- HTML WG discusses SVG in text/html [tagSoupIntegration-54 ISSUE-54] (from connolly@w3.org on 2007-10-17)
- TAG Telcon Agenda: 18th Oct 2007: IETF/W3C mtg; tagSoupIntegration-54; IRIEverywhere-27; UrnsAndRegistries; httpRedirections-57; Nov F2F (from skw@hp.com on 2007-10-17)
- TAG meeting 17-19 Sep in Southampton: minutes/summary (from connolly@w3.org on 2007-10-04)
- RE: TAG Weekly Telcon Agenda for 6th September 2007: tagSoupIntegration-54; namespaceDocument-8; XMLVersioning-41 (from dorchard@bea.com on 2007-09-06)
- RE: TAG Weekly Telcon Agenda for 6th September 2007: tagSoupIntegration-54; namespaceDocument-8; XMLVersioning-41 (from skw@hp.com on 2007-09-05)
- Re: TAG Weekly Telcon Agenda for 6th September 2007: tagSoupIntegration-54; namespaceDocument-8; XMLVersioning-41 (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2007-09-05)
- TAG Weekly Telcon Agenda for 6th September 2007: tagSoupIntegration-54; namespaceDocument-8; XMLVersioning-41 (from skw@hp.com on 2007-09-05)
- Re: Draft Agenda for TAG F2F 17-19th September 2007 at University of Southampton (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2007-09-04)
- Draft Agenda for TAG F2F 17-19th September 2007 at University of Southampton (from skw@hp.com on 2007-09-04)
- Draft Minutes for TAG call on 30th Aug 2007 (from skw@hp.com on 2007-09-04)
- TAG Telcon Agenda for Thursday 30th August 2007 (from skw@hp.com on 2007-08-29)
- TAG in Mountain View (from on 2007-05-31)
- W3C TAG Teleconference - 23 April 2007 (from on 2007-04-23)
- Technical Architecture Group (from on 2007-04-16)
- TAG Weekly Telcon 26th March 2007 (from on 2007-03-26)
- TAG telcon (from on 2007-03-19)
- W3C Technical Architecture Group (TAG) Face to Face Meeting - 7 March 2007 (Afternoon) (from on 2007-03-07)
- TAG f2f (from on 2007-03-07)
- (from on 2007-02-05)
- TAG f2f (from on 2006-12-12)
- TAG F2F Meeting, Boston 11 Dec 2006 (from on 2006-12-11)
- Technical Architecture Group (from on 2006-11-07)
- TAG telcon (from on 2006-10-31)
- (from on 2006-10-24)
- Draft description of new TAG issue TagSoupIntegration-54 (from Henry S. Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> on 2006-10-24)
- (from on 2006-10-24)
- (from on 2006-10-24)
- TAG telcon (from on 2006-10-17)
- W3C Technical Architecture Group (TAG) Face to Face Meeting - 7 March 2007 (Afternoon) (from on 2001-01-01)
Related notes:
notes by TVR/DC http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/tag-soup-integration.html
discussed 20 Aug 2007 http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2007/08/20-minutes#item09
T.V. Raman's note to the W3C AC recommending a task force be chartered to do work on HTML/XML integration: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-forum/2010AprJun/0073.htmlNoah Mendelsohn, 16 Nov 2010, 20:37:03
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