- From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 16:18:44 +0100
- To: Linked Data for Language Technology Community Group <public-ld4lt@w3.org>
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
- DRAFT -
LD4LT CG
22 Jan 2015
[2]Agenda
[2] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ld4lt/2015Jan/0013.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2015/01/22-ld4lt-irc
Attendees
Present
kevin, andrea, gabriela, john, jorge, felix, marta,
martin, victor, sebastian, MTCarrasco, Riccardo_&_Fahad,
Penny
Regrets
Chair
jorge
Scribe
victor
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]review of pending actions to do
2. [6]Summary of the state of the Metashare OWL model
3. [7]Brief introduction to LingHub
4. [8]Alignment between both
5. [9]Namespace of the model
6. [10]namespaces
7. [11]Deadlines for the model definition
* [12]Summary of Action Items
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who
finger
<fsasaki> scribe: victor
<fsasaki>
[13]http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/open
[13] http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/open
<jgracia>
[14]http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/open
[14] http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/open
<fsasaki> action-11?
<trackbot> action-11 -- David Lewis to Gather info on how to
provide more detailed mapping from meta-share to dcat -- due
2014-07-24 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[15]http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/11
[15] http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/11
<Sebastian> Rough agenda:
<Sebastian> 1. Review of open actions [1] 2. Summary of the
state of the Metashare OWL model (see [2]) 3. Brief
introduction to LingHub [3] by John 4. Alignment between both
(see [4]) 5. Namespace of the model (see [5]) 6. Next deadlines
for the model [1]
[16]http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/open [2]
[17]https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15SE4_qAqYFostmD52uK
xpkCPZh1f5TrPeoXKNTlDYpQ/edit#gid=525162452 [3]
[18]http://linghub.lider-project.eu [4] [19]http://[CUT]
[1] http://www.w3.org/
[2] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ld4lt/2015Jan/0013.html
[3] http://www.w3.org/2015/01/22-ld4lt-irc
[1] http://www.w3.org/
[16] http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/open
[2] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ld4lt/2015Jan/0013.html
[17] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15SE4_qAqYFostmD52uKxpkCPZh1f5TrPeoXKNTlDYpQ/edit#gid=525162452
[3] http://www.w3.org/2015/01/22-ld4lt-irc
[18] http://linghub.lider-project.eu/
[19] http://[CUT]/
review of pending actions to do
<fsasaki> close action-11
<trackbot> Closed action-11.
<fsasaki> action-12?
<trackbot> action-12 -- Penny Labropoulou to Capture list of
parameters that may be relevant for a skos classification --
due 2014-08-07 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[20]http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/12
[20] http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/12
<fsasaki>
[21]https://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/wiki/Using_SKOS_for_clas
sification_information
[21] https://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/wiki/Using_SKOS_for_classification_information
<fsasaki> close action-12
<trackbot> Closed action-12.
pennyl: Regarding action 12, see this reference:
[22]https://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/wiki/Using_SKOS_for_clas
sification_information
[22] https://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/wiki/Using_SKOS_for_classification_information
<fsasaki> action-13?
<trackbot> action-13 -- Penny Labropoulou to Update google doc
with licenses -- due 2015-01-15 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[23]http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/13
[23] http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/13
<fsasaki> close action-13
<trackbot> Closed action-13.
close action12
<fsasaki> action-14?
<trackbot> action-14 -- Jorge Gracia to Send email around about
preferences and possibilities for namespace of the model -- due
2015-01-15 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[24]http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/14
[24] http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/14
<fsasaki> close action-14
<trackbot> Closed action-14.
<fsasaki> action-15?
<trackbot> action-15 -- Víctor Rodríguez-Doncel to Contact john
for getting statistics on the use of licenses to select more
relevant eamples -- due 2015-01-15 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[25]http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/15
[25] http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/15
<fsasaki> close action-15
<trackbot> Closed action-15.
<fsasaki> action-16?
<trackbot> action-16 -- Víctor Rodríguez-Doncel to Send to the
list a call for further examples -- due 2015-01-15 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[26]http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/16
[26] http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/16
<fsasaki> victor: have informed odrl people on this, got some
feedback
<fsasaki> .. keep action open
(thanks Felix!)
<jgracia>
[27]https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15SE4_qAqYFostmD52uK
xpkCPZh1f5TrPeoXKNTlDYpQ/edit#gid=525162452
[27] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15SE4_qAqYFostmD52uKxpkCPZh1f5TrPeoXKNTlDYpQ/edit#gid=525162452
Summary of the state of the Metashare OWL model
the URL for the wikis can be found here:
[28]https://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/wiki/Metashare_vocabular
y_for_licenses
[28] https://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/wiki/Metashare_vocabulary_for_licenses
While some examples can be seen here:
[29]https://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/wiki/Examples
[29] https://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/wiki/Examples
john wonders about the need and origin of the spreadsheet at
googledocs
the spreadsheet was originated from Marta's work, as a
convenient document to discuss
jgracia: some problems had to be solved and improved
john: should the document be closed?
sebastian: metashare is at a certain stable state, but the
people behind it feel the schema has to be innovated
pennyl: agrees
... the problems discussed at ld4lt lists are actual problems
of the metashare community
sebastian: will there be a new version of metashare?
pennyl: yes, partly based on ld4lt input
john: based on linghub info, a better structured document can
be done rather than the spreadsheet
... I already referred some of this on an email sent Monday
<Sebastian> [30]http://www.essepuntato.it/lode
[30] http://www.essepuntato.it/lode
victor: I believe the spreadsheet is only an intermediate
document for discussion
jgracia: but it was agreed to leave the document open also for
others to read it
pennyl: at least some of the properties are ill-defined, or at
least they do not match Metashare's
jgracia: maybe there are other sources, specially for terms not
handled by Metashare
john will offer statsitics on the use of the different elements
<jgracia> ACTION: john to produce a new google doc and owl
based on the real use of the MS model in the data [recorded in
[31]http://www.w3.org/2015/01/22-ld4lt-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> 'john' is an ambiguous username. Please try a
different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g.,
johnjudge, jmccrae).
<jgracia> ACTION: jmccrae to produce a new google doc and owl
based on the real use of the MS model in the data [recorded in
[32]http://www.w3.org/2015/01/22-ld4lt-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-17 - Produce a new google doc and owl
based on the real use of the ms model in the data [on John
McCrae - due 2015-01-29].
Brief introduction to LingHub
john: Linghub is an attempt to bring together differently
sourced language resources into a single aligned model
<jgracia> [33]http://linghub.lider-project.eu
[33] http://linghub.lider-project.eu/
<jgracia> under construction yet
Alignment between both
<jgracia> different catalogs (CLARIN, MS, ..) still not well
aligned
jgracia: please send feedback on linghub.
pennyl: will the linghub-metashare alignment change based on
our current work?
<riccardo> lremap is on the way to be totally LOD-ed
pennyl: and some misalignment has been detected, for example
regarding the version of CC-ZERO licenses
<riccardo> we can't interact since our mic just went break
<riccardo> hi its riccardo from pisa here!
hello Riccardo
<jgracia> hi riccardo
<riccardo> hi all
is there anything I should mention aloud in the voice
discussion?
<riccardo> I did not hear what john said about lremap..
<riccardo> could u repeat or write down?
jgracia: the new vocabulary we create should be reflected on
linghub
<jmccrae> riccardo I said you never answered me about what
exact license you used
jmccrae: but we should better stick to W3C standards
<riccardo> it's true, that's a pity from me. But 4 sure what is
lodded now is totally free
<jmccrae> are IRC chats legally binding... I wonder ;)
jgracia: Riccardo informs that LREMap is fully loaded
<riccardo> yes, it is 2014 is lodded and free. :)
Namespace of the model
<fsasaki> jmccrae, there is a patent policy, but so far no
legal binding IRC policy - room for develpment :)
<jmccrae> penny, all, please report issues with LingHub here:
[34]https://github.com/liderproject/linghub/issues
[34] https://github.com/liderproject/linghub/issues
<jgracia>
[35]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ld4lt/2015Jan/00
11.html
[35] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ld4lt/2015Jan/0011.html
namespaces
jgracia: W3C is not the best domain for its possibly lenghty
bureachratic procedures
<jgracia> maybe purl the best option
fsasaki: by W3C it wouldnt be that difficult, if needed.
sebastian: which would be the relationship with metashare?
fsasaki: agree, namespace hosting must be further discussed
pennyl: people recognize the metashare model, so regardles its
hosting, the metasheare "seal" is widely recognized and should
be kept somewhere
<jgracia> sebastian: w3c is more neutral
sebastian: but w3c is (and has to be) neutral
<fsasaki> [36]http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-nsuri
[36] http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-nsuri
<fsasaki> [37]http://www.w3.org/ns/ssss
[37] http://www.w3.org/ns/ssss
<fsasaki> "ssss"
<scribe> ACTION: fsasaki to setup a namespace document
[recorded in
[38]http://www.w3.org/2015/01/22-ld4lt-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-18 - Setup a namespace document [on
Felix Sasaki - due 2015-01-29].
<fsasaki> "ssss is a short string not causing confusion, alarm,
or embarrassment. For instance, the short string should not
cause confusion when used in both [39]http://www.w3.org/TR/ssss
and [40]http://www.w3.org/ns/ssss URIs."
[39] http://www.w3.org/TR/ssss
[40] http://www.w3.org/ns/ssss
<fsasaki> (above are the requirements)
jgracia: is there any objection?
fsasaki: we dont have to decide today
close action-15
<trackbot> Closed action-15.
jgracia: we have also to choose a name instead of the ssss
... we leave this for the next call
Deadlines for the model definition
jgracia: 2 weeks for having the new version based on linhub by
John, 4 weeks from now to incorporate the modifications and
improvements into John's version, 6 weeks from now for having
collected feedback.
<fsasaki> +1 for the schedule
(nobody opposes)
<fsasaki>
[41]https://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/wiki/Main_Page#LD4LT_cal
ls
[41] https://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/wiki/Main_Page#LD4LT_calls
jgracia: the next telco is not about the Metashare topic, but a
10 mins slot to assess progress is possible
<fsasaki> [next call would be 19 February, main topic is LIDER
roadmap]
sebastian: agree, but please not too long
jgracia: any other business?
<MTCarrasco> bye
thanks all, bye
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: fsasaki to setup a namespace document [recorded
in
[42]http://www.w3.org/2015/01/22-ld4lt-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: jmccrae to produce a new google doc and owl based
on the real use of the MS model in the data [recorded in
[43]http://www.w3.org/2015/01/22-ld4lt-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: john to produce a new google doc and owl based on
the real use of the MS model in the data [recorded in
[44]http://www.w3.org/2015/01/22-ld4lt-minutes.html#action01]
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