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LD4LT CG

22 Jan 2015

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
kevin, andrea, gabriela, john, jorge, felix, marta, martin, victor, sebastian, MTCarrasco, Riccardo_&_Fahad, Penny
Regrets
Chair
jorge
Scribe
victor

Contents


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<fsasaki> scribe: victor

<fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/open

<jgracia> http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/open

<fsasaki> action-11?

<trackbot> action-11 -- David Lewis to Gather info on how to provide more detailed mapping from meta-share to dcat -- due 2014-07-24 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/11

<Sebastian> Rough agenda:

<Sebastian> 1. Review of open actions [1] 2. Summary of the state of the Metashare OWL model (see [2]) 3. Brief introduction to LingHub [3] by John 4. Alignment between both (see [4]) 5. Namespace of the model (see [5]) 6. Next deadlines for the model [1] http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/open [2] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15SE4_qAqYFostmD52uKxpkCPZh1f5TrPeoXKNTlDYpQ/edit#gid=525162452 [3] http://linghub.lider-project.eu [4] http://[CUT]

review of pending actions to do

<fsasaki> close action-11

<trackbot> Closed action-11.

<fsasaki> action-12?

<trackbot> action-12 -- Penny Labropoulou to Capture list of parameters that may be relevant for a skos classification -- due 2014-08-07 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/12

<fsasaki> https://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/wiki/Using_SKOS_for_classification_information

<fsasaki> close action-12

<trackbot> Closed action-12.

pennyl: Regarding action 12, see this reference: https://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/wiki/Using_SKOS_for_classification_information

<fsasaki> action-13?

<trackbot> action-13 -- Penny Labropoulou to Update google doc with licenses -- due 2015-01-15 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/13

<fsasaki> close action-13

<trackbot> Closed action-13.

close action12

<fsasaki> action-14?

<trackbot> action-14 -- Jorge Gracia to Send email around about preferences and possibilities for namespace of the model -- due 2015-01-15 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/14

<fsasaki> close action-14

<trackbot> Closed action-14.

<fsasaki> action-15?

<trackbot> action-15 -- Víctor Rodríguez-Doncel to Contact john for getting statistics on the use of licenses to select more relevant eamples -- due 2015-01-15 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/15

<fsasaki> close action-15

<trackbot> Closed action-15.

<fsasaki> action-16?

<trackbot> action-16 -- Víctor Rodríguez-Doncel to Send to the list a call for further examples -- due 2015-01-15 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/track/actions/16

<fsasaki> victor: have informed odrl people on this, got some feedback

<fsasaki> .. keep action open

(thanks Felix!)

<jgracia> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15SE4_qAqYFostmD52uKxpkCPZh1f5TrPeoXKNTlDYpQ/edit#gid=525162452

Summary of the state of the Metashare OWL model

the URL for the wikis can be found here:

https://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/wiki/Metashare_vocabulary_for_licenses

While some examples can be seen here: https://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/wiki/Examples

john wonders about the need and origin of the spreadsheet at googledocs

the spreadsheet was originated from Marta's work, as a convenient document to discuss

jgracia: some problems had to be solved and improved

john: should the document be closed?

sebastian: metashare is at a certain stable state, but the people behind it feel the schema has to be innovated

pennyl: agrees
... the problems discussed at ld4lt lists are actual problems of the metashare community

sebastian: will there be a new version of metashare?

pennyl: yes, partly based on ld4lt input

john: based on linghub info, a better structured document can be done rather than the spreadsheet
... I already referred some of this on an email sent Monday

<Sebastian> http://www.essepuntato.it/lode

victor: I believe the spreadsheet is only an intermediate document for discussion

jgracia: but it was agreed to leave the document open also for others to read it

pennyl: at least some of the properties are ill-defined, or at least they do not match Metashare's

jgracia: maybe there are other sources, specially for terms not handled by Metashare

john will offer statsitics on the use of the different elements

<jgracia> ACTION: john to produce a new google doc and owl based on the real use of the MS model in the data [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/22-ld4lt-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> 'john' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., johnjudge, jmccrae).

<jgracia> ACTION: jmccrae to produce a new google doc and owl based on the real use of the MS model in the data [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/22-ld4lt-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-17 - Produce a new google doc and owl based on the real use of the ms model in the data [on John McCrae - due 2015-01-29].

Brief introduction to LingHub

john: Linghub is an attempt to bring together differently sourced language resources into a single aligned model

<jgracia> http://linghub.lider-project.eu

<jgracia> under construction yet

Alignment between both

<jgracia> different catalogs (CLARIN, MS, ..) still not well aligned

jgracia: please send feedback on linghub.

pennyl: will the linghub-metashare alignment change based on our current work?

<riccardo> lremap is on the way to be totally LOD-ed

pennyl: and some misalignment has been detected, for example regarding the version of CC-ZERO licenses

<riccardo> we can't interact since our mic just went break

<riccardo> hi its riccardo from pisa here!

hello Riccardo

<jgracia> hi riccardo

<riccardo> hi all

is there anything I should mention aloud in the voice discussion?

<riccardo> I did not hear what john said about lremap..

<riccardo> could u repeat or write down?

jgracia: the new vocabulary we create should be reflected on linghub

<jmccrae> riccardo I said you never answered me about what exact license you used

jmccrae: but we should better stick to W3C standards

<riccardo> it's true, that's a pity from me. But 4 sure what is lodded now is totally free

<jmccrae> are IRC chats legally binding... I wonder ;)

jgracia: Riccardo informs that LREMap is fully loaded

<riccardo> yes, it is 2014 is lodded and free. :)

Namespace of the model

<fsasaki> jmccrae, there is a patent policy, but so far no legal binding IRC policy - room for develpment :)

<jmccrae> penny, all, please report issues with LingHub here: https://github.com/liderproject/linghub/issues

<jgracia> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ld4lt/2015Jan/0011.html

namespaces

jgracia: W3C is not the best domain for its possibly lenghty bureachratic procedures

<jgracia> maybe purl the best option

fsasaki: by W3C it wouldnt be that difficult, if needed.

sebastian: which would be the relationship with metashare?

fsasaki: agree, namespace hosting must be further discussed

pennyl: people recognize the metashare model, so regardles its hosting, the metasheare "seal" is widely recognized and should be kept somewhere

<jgracia> sebastian: w3c is more neutral

sebastian: but w3c is (and has to be) neutral

<fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-nsuri

<fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/ns/ssss

<fsasaki> "ssss"

<scribe> ACTION: fsasaki to setup a namespace document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/22-ld4lt-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-18 - Setup a namespace document [on Felix Sasaki - due 2015-01-29].

<fsasaki> "ssss is a short string not causing confusion, alarm, or embarrassment. For instance, the short string should not cause confusion when used in both http://www.w3.org/TR/ssss and http://www.w3.org/ns/ssss URIs."

<fsasaki> (above are the requirements)

jgracia: is there any objection?

fsasaki: we dont have to decide today

close action-15

<trackbot> Closed action-15.

jgracia: we have also to choose a name instead of the ssss
... we leave this for the next call

Deadlines for the model definition

jgracia: 2 weeks for having the new version based on linhub by John, 4 weeks from now to incorporate the modifications and improvements into John's version, 6 weeks from now for having collected feedback.

<fsasaki> +1 for the schedule

(nobody opposes)

<fsasaki> https://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/wiki/Main_Page#LD4LT_calls

jgracia: the next telco is not about the Metashare topic, but a 10 mins slot to assess progress is possible

<fsasaki> [next call would be 19 February, main topic is LIDER roadmap]

sebastian: agree, but please not too long

jgracia: any other business?

<MTCarrasco> bye

thanks all, bye

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: fsasaki to setup a namespace document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/22-ld4lt-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: jmccrae to produce a new google doc and owl based on the real use of the MS model in the data [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/22-ld4lt-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: john to produce a new google doc and owl based on the real use of the MS model in the data [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/01/22-ld4lt-minutes.html#action01]
 
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