- From: Raphaël Troncy <raphael.troncy@eurecom.fr>
- Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:50:35 +0100
- To: Media Fragment <public-media-fragment@w3.org>
Dear all,
The minutes of this week's telecon are available for review at
http://www.w3.org/2010/03/03-mediafrag-minutes.html (and in text format
below).
Reminder: ALL MUST finish your actions *before* the F2F, check the tracker.
Cheers.
Raphaël
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference
03 Mar 2010
[2]Agenda
[2]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010Mar/0003.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2010/03/03-mediafrag-irc
Attendees
Present
raphael, michael, yves, davy
Regrets
Erik, Silvia, Jack
Chair
Raphael
Scribe
Raphael
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]1. Admin
2. [6]2. F2F meeting
3. [7]3. Specification
4. [8]4. Media URI Syntax
5. [9]5. Protocol
6. [10]6. Rendering media fragments in the UA
7. [11]7. Test Cases
8. [12]8. AB
* [13]Summary of Action Items
_________________________________________________________
<trackbot> Date: 03 March 2010
<scribe> scribenick: raphael
<scribe> scribe: Raphael
1. Admin
PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 24 February 2009 telecon,
[14]http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html
[14] http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html
?
<mhausenblas> +1
<davy> +1
+1
Minutes accepted
ACTIOn-145?
<trackbot> ACTION-145 -- Raphaël Troncy to adjust the milestones in
the charter -- due 2010-03-03 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[15]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/145
[15] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/145
close ACTION-145
<trackbot> ACTION-145 Adjust the milestones in the charter closed
see the new table schedule on the group home page,
[16]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/
[16] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/
ACTION-119?
<trackbot> ACTION-119 -- Yves Lafon to request admins to set up a
cvs notifications mailing list and notifications -- due 2009-10-14
-- OPEN
<trackbot>
[17]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/119
[17] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/119
2. F2F meeting
<scribe> Agenda:
[18]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/FithF2FAgenda
[18] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/FithF2FAgenda
I'm requesting you put more items of things you would like to have
been discussed
3. Specification
ACTION-134?
<trackbot> ACTION-134 -- Erik Mannens to mark up the spec with
normative and informative classes -- due 2010-02-10 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[19]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/134
[19] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/134
Propose to close it, since we marked up already what is stable and
not
Some support from Yves
no objections
<conrad> +1
<davy> +1
<mhausenblas> +1
close ACTION-134
<trackbot> ACTION-134 Mark up the spec with normative and
informative classes closed
ACTION-142?
<trackbot> ACTION-142 -- Raphaël Troncy to apply this change in the
section 5.1.3 (jack's note) -- due 2010-02-24 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[20]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/142
[20] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/142
close ACTION-142
<trackbot> ACTION-142 Apply this change in the section 5.1.3 (jack's
note) closed
4. Media URI Syntax
ACTION-126?
<trackbot> ACTION-126 -- Yves Lafon to follow up on error in ABFN
for npt -- due 2009-12-23 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[21]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/126
[21] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/126
Yves: it is done, both the wiki page and the document has been
changed
In the document, at the end, there is a consolidated annex with what
we have imported
<Yves>
[22]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-spe
c/
[22]
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-spec/
<Yves> 4.2.1.3 Wall-clock time code
<Yves> Editorial note: Philip
<Yves> The datetime definition should be imported from either global
date and time (HTML 5) or utc-time (RFC 2326).
<Yves> Editorial note: Yves
<Yves> In fact it should be a subset of ISO 8601, RFC 3339 would do.
(Need WG decision)
Issue: which def should we take?
<trackbot> Created ISSUE-15 - Which def should we take? ; please
complete additional details at
[23]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/15/edit
.
[23] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/15/edit
<Yves> [24]http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3339.txt
[24] http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3339.txt
drop ISSUE-15
Yves: I would prefer to use the 3339 rather than the def used in
HTML5 and the RTSP protocol
... HTML5 have chosen the ISO def rather than the RFC definition
... I think they are the same, but we should be consistent in our
ref
Raphael: do you want a WG decision now ? We are not that many on the
call
Yves: this is not rocket science, but should be pretty
straightforward
Raphael: I would propose a 5 min discussion at the F2F meeting
... in order to take a WG decision (re: section 4.2.1.3)
Bug at
[25]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009No
v/0023.html is corrected
[25]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Nov/0023.html
Bug at
[26]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010Ja
n/0093.html is corrected
[26]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010Jan/0093.html
The 's' has been dropped
close ACTION-126
<trackbot> ACTION-126 Follow up on error in ABFN for npt closed
Yves: the 's' was already optional but has been dropped
<Yves>
[27]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-spe
c/#collected-syntax
[27]
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-spec/#collected-syntax
Yves: the Annex B collects all the bits of the syntax
ACTION-150?
<trackbot> ACTION-150 -- Erik Mannens to summarize the discussion on
the quotes in a mail or on the wiki -- due 2010-03-03 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[28]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/150
[28] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/150
Raphael: whether we should have quotes or not for track and id will
be a topic at the F2F meeting
Yves: using quotes seem more secure ... but it is matter of
discussion
<Yves> we need jack for this one
5. Protocol
ACTION-123?
<trackbot> ACTION-123 -- Yves Lafon to come up with ABNF for header
syntax -- due 2009-12-09 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[29]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/123
[29] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/123
<scribe> -- pending
Yves: we need some further discussion
... in particular how we express the non-temporal dimension
... my plan is to actually _do_ that during the F2F meeting
Raphael: this is another topic for the f2f
6. Rendering media fragments in the UA
ACTION-141?
<trackbot> ACTION-141 -- Conrad Parker to add a paragraph in the
section 5.2.1 that further clarify the role of the UA for rendering
a media fragment -- due 2010-02-24 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[30]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/141
[30] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/141
Conrad: I will do that by f2f
ACTION-135?
<trackbot> ACTION-135 -- Erik Mannens to extend section 5 regarding
spatial and track dimension -- due 2010-02-10 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[31]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/135
[31] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/135
Davy: I have looked at it a little bit
<davy>
[32]http://www.europarl.europa.eu/wps-europarl-internet/frd/vod/play
er?session=last¤tSei=SEI1&language=en
[32]
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/wps-europarl-internet/frd/vod/player?session=last¤tSei=SEI1&language=en
Davy: look for examples
... examples of bow text fragments can be rendered, highlighted
<davy> [33]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKsaq6W3V1s
[33] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKsaq6W3V1s
Davy: I look also at the annotation tool of YouTube
... we also look at Flash development
... on the F2F I will make an implementation report
... perhaps with a demo
... but mainly the problems we have
7. Test Cases
ACTION-118?
<trackbot> ACTION-118 -- Michael Hausenblas to come up with
individual 'normal' test cases (+/- 20) -- due 2010-03-09 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[34]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/118
[34] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/118
close ACTIONB-118
close ACTION-118
<trackbot> ACTION-118 Come up with individual 'normal' test cases
(+/- 20) closed
ACTION-147?
<trackbot> ACTION-147 -- Michael Hausenblas to add all MF WG members
to corrib -- due 2010-03-05 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[35]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/147
[35] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/147
scribe: will be done by F2F
Michael: goal of the F2F is to review the TC that are in corrib
Other actions
ACTION-71?
<trackbot> ACTION-71 -- Michael Hausenblas to investigate whether he
could have an implementation in Javascript that does the client-side
media fragments parsing -- due 2009-10-14 -- CLOSED
<trackbot>
[36]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/71
[36] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/71
Davy: we mostly look at how to generate HTTP headers with js
... not really on parsing media fragments
... Silvia was looking at this
Raphael: I will ask Silvia if she wants to take this action or not
at f2f
8. AB
Raphael: is there any other business to discuss?
Next gathering is in Ghent
Michael: will be around most of the time remotely
Silvia: any slots you will 'more' here than others?
<silvia> the morning sessions, as usual
same for conrad
Raphael: we will focus deep discussion during our morning sessions
<silvia> thanks, much appreciated
Raphael: please, all, finish all your actions BEFORE the f2f
S/AOB/AOB
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Summary of Action Items
[End of minutes]
_________________________________________________________
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Raphaël Troncy
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