ISSUE-408: Boxed characters and initial letter properties

Boxed characters and initial letter properties

State:

CLOSED

Product:

css-inline

Raised by:

Richard Ishida

Opened on:

2015-01-16

Description:

http://www.w3.org/Mail/flatten/index?subject=i18n-ISSUE-408&list=www-style


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2.4. Alignment of Initial Letters: the initial-letter-align property
http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-inline/#aligning-initial-letter

Looking at the examples at https://www.flickr.com/photos/ishida/sets/72157650248400402/ I noted that another apparently popular approach to initial letter highlighting involves centring the text in a decorated box. Here are some examples:

Hebrew
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ishida/15650929903/in/set-72157650248400402
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ishida/16084956857/in/set-72157650248400402/

Chinese
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ishida/15650930393/in/set-72157650248400402

Korean
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ishida/16246010056/in/set-72157650248400402
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ishida/16086075057/in/set-72157650248400402/

Devanagari
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ishida/15652027313/in/set-72157650248400402
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ishida/16084553210/in/set-72157650248400402/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ishida/16084392688/in/set-72157650248400402/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ishida/16084553630/in/set-72157650248400402/
and others


It seems logical to assume that one might use the ::first-letter plus initial-letter property to indicate the vertical height of such a box, and the general displacement relative to the first line. The current values of initial-letter-align, however, don't seem relevant - the enlarged character(s) in the above example appear to be centred vertically and horizontally within the box, and it is the box that is aligned with the rest of the text. Do we need a 5th value for the initial-letter-align property that centres the sequence of characters in a box who's size is indicated by the initial-letter property (ie. rather than aligning by baselines), and that indicates the alignment of the top and bottom of the box relative to the follow-on text?

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1. Re: [i18n-activity] i18n-ISSUE-408: Boxed characters and initial letter properties (from sysbot+gh@w3.org on 2016-09-23)
2. Re: [css-inline] i18n-ISSUE-408: Boxed characters and initial letter properties (from florian@rivoal.net on 2015-02-17)
3. Re: [css-inline] i18n-ISSUE-408: Boxed characters and initial letter properties (from arle.lommel@dfki.de on 2015-02-17)
4. Re: [css-inline] i18n-ISSUE-408: Boxed characters and initial letter properties (from florian@rivoal.net on 2015-02-17)
5. Re: [css-inline] i18n-ISSUE-408: Boxed characters and initial letter properties (from arle.lommel@dfki.de on 2015-02-11)
6. Re: [css-inline] i18n-ISSUE-408: Boxed characters and initial letter properties (from ishida@w3.org on 2015-02-11)
7. Re: [css-inline] i18n-ISSUE-408: Boxed characters and initial letter properties (from arle.lommel@dfki.de on 2015-02-11)
8. Re: [css-inline] i18n-ISSUE-408: Boxed characters and initial letter properties (from ishida@w3.org on 2015-02-10)
9. Re: [css-inline] i18n-ISSUE-408: Boxed characters and initial letter properties (from ishida@w3.org on 2015-01-26)
10. RE: [css-inline] i18n-ISSUE-408: Boxed characters and initial letter properties (from matitiahu.allouche@gmail.com on 2015-01-24)
11. Re: [css-inline] i18n-ISSUE-408: Boxed characters and initial letter properties (from florian@rivoal.net on 2015-01-24)
12. Re: [css-inline] i18n-ISSUE-408: Boxed characters and initial letter properties (from florian@rivoal.net on 2015-01-24)
13. Re: [css-inline] i18n-ISSUE-408: Boxed characters and initial letter properties (from ishida@w3.org on 2015-01-23)
14. Re: [css-inline] i18n-ISSUE-408: Boxed characters and initial letter properties (from dauwhe@gmail.com on 2015-01-23)
15. Re: [css-inline] i18n-ISSUE-408: Boxed characters and initial letter properties (from florian@rivoal.net on 2015-01-23)
16. [css-inline] i18n-ISSUE-408: Boxed characters and initial letter properties (from ishida@w3.org on 2015-01-23)
17. [minutes] Internationalization telecon 2015-01-22 (from ishida@w3.org on 2015-01-22)
18. I18N-ACTION-395: Forward issue-408 to css as non-provisional comment (from sysbot+tracker@w3.org on 2015-01-22)
19. I18N-ISSUE-408: Centred value for intial-letter-align [css-inline] (from sysbot+tracker@w3.org on 2015-01-16)

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