W3C

– DRAFT –
WoT-WG/IG

25 June 2025

Attendees

Present
Daniel_Peintner, David_Ezell, Dhrubajyoti_Bhattacharjee, Ege_Korkan, Josh_Thomas, Kaz_Ashimura, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster, Michael_McCool, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Tomoaki_Mizushima
Regrets
-
Chair
Sebastian
Scribe
kaz

Meeting minutes

Guests, New Members, IEs

Dhrubajyoti: has joined the IG

Sebastian: welcome
… from FIME. right?

Dhrubajyoti: yes
… working on contactless payments

Sebastian: (introduces the WoT spec work)

Dhrubajyoti: would like to understand what's happening where

Sebastian: great!
… we have 2 new IE candidates
… would give them a 6-mo IE status

Kaz: we've got a response from Mahmood, so I've accepted his application. he should join the group shortly
… while we're still waiting for response from Crris Xavier

Sebastian: ok

Minutes

June-18

Sebastian: (goes through the minutes)

approved

Discovery User Stories

McCool: 2 PRs

wot-usecases PR 359 - Fill in Details in Discovery User Stories

McCool: have been reviewed by Sebastian
… I've not reviewed his comments them yet, though
… want to get merged

Kaz: is Sebastian OK now?

Sebastian: don't see any blocking issues now

McCool: ok

<McCool> proposal: merge PR https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/359, subject to a second stage of review later (when the UCR document goes to Note).

McCool: is that OK?

Sebastian: ok

McCool: any objections?

none

RESOLUTION: merge PR https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/359, subject to a second stage of review later (when the UCR document goes to Note).

wot-usecases PR 363 - Remove functional req, technical req, and liaisons sections

McCool: this PR removes various problems

diff

(see "5.2 Functional Requirements", etc., to be removed)

Kaz: sometimes we once move that kind of content to the appendix
… do we really want to simply remove them this time?

McCool: might be interesting from historical viewpoints
… but would be rather confusing

Kaz: if it's just confusing, we can remove it

Kaz: but if that by chance have some meaning, we can add a reference

<McCool> proposal: merge PR https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/363, subject to a second stage of review later (when the UCR document goes to Note).

McCool: any objections?

RESOLUTION: merge PR https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/363, subject to a second stage of review later (when the UCR document goes to Note).

none

Sebastian: tx, McCool!
… any other topics for quick updates?

none

TPAC 2025

Sebastian: TPAC is approaching
… we have a dedicated wiki for our planning

WoT TPAC 2025 wiki

Sebastian: would have good number of participants
… but currently just several people are registered
… if you're not 100% sure, please put your information with "% Attend" possibility
… regarding the dates
… as we agreed last week, we'd go for Thursday and Friay
… each TF Lead should add topics to the "Topics" section

(Sebastian has put several possible topics already)

Sebastian: should think about remote participation as well
… for example, TD topics to be held in the afternoon
… so would see who'll join the meeting remotely
… joint meetings should be also identified
… so far, we have JSON-LD, Spatial Data, Smat Cities, DID, APA, Security and Privacy
… need to schedule Breakouts too
… this time 10 breakouts in parallel for each time slot during TPAC 2025
… 9 one-hour slots during the TPAC week as follows

Monday: 1 one-hour slot at 17:00-18:00
Tuesday: 1 one-hour slot at 08:30-09:30
Wednesday: 6 one-hour slots at 08:30-18:30
Thursday: 1 one-hour slot at 17:00-18:00

Sebastian: also we'd organize our Plugfest
… Plugfest is expected to start on Saturday
… we'd use a hotel room for that purpose
… any questions?

Kaz: please add your name to the Plugfest section of the wiki also :)

Sebastian: right :)

Kaz: I've already started to talk with Naomi as the local event manager about the logistics

Charter

WoT WG Charter

Sebastian: the end of the WoT WG Charter is Oct 2 this year
… we need to extend our working period by extension and/or rechartering

<EgeKorkan> +1

Sebastian: would confirm we'd go for 3-mo extension for the rechartering procedure

McCool: my question is if 3-mo is ok for that purpose

Kaz: we still have 3 months till the end of the Charter

WIP: [wg/wot] Web of Things Working Group rechartering

Kaz: I've already created a placeholder discussion on the Strategy repo
… the point here is we should start the Charter discussion right away
… if we're lucky enough, we can finalize the Charter by the end of Sep
… but maybe AC Review would take long
… at that time in Sep, we need a 3-mo extension to wrap-up the rechartering procedure

<sebastian> proposal: The group decided to work on a new charter and may request an 3 month extension in August to complete the chartering work.

Kaz: maybe would be better to say September here :)

RESOLUTION: The group decided to work on a new charter and may request an 3 month extension in August/September to complete the chartering work.

Meetups

WoT CG

Ege: next meeting to be held on July 17
… presentation about an EU project called NEPHELE

WoT JP CG

Mizushima: no updates

Smart Cities

Kaz: next IG meeting on July 7
… sent a reminder to the group CCing JTC1 guys
… will continue the discussion about existing resources, categories, pain points, requirements, etc.

Cloud-edge

McCool: no news yet since was on vacation for a while

Sebastian: ok

Liaisons

ECHONET

Sebastian: asking them to join the Plugfest

Kaz: yes, I'm asking them about that. will continue discussion in July also

Conexxus

David: will join TPAC Plugfest
… one more person to be added as a Conexxus rep

Kaz: great

OPC

Sebastian: tx for all your input!
… looked into them and have updated the document
… I presented the document during the OPC meeting
… the next step is another tech review on the OPC side
… maybe we could have some of the OPC reps during TPAC/Plugfest
… let's see

Kaz: great!

ETSI

McCool: Koster, myself and Kaz joined the meeting on Monday
… next steps for use case discussion
… would have two more monthly meetings
… then would invite them to the Plugfest call so that they can join the Plugfest

Sebastian: when to have the next liaison meeting?

McCool: in one month
… then would join the Plugfest call

Sebastian: are they interested in the Plugfest during TPAC 2025 in Kobe?

McCool: not necessarily in person
… but at least a couple of them could join
… onboading topic would be of interest

IEC SC3D

Sebastian: possible liaison
… related to smart city topics too

Kaz: think I need to send a reminder to them about that
… will do that from now

Sebastian: tx

Schedule

Holidays and Events

Sebastian: Ege won't be available next week (actually July 1-15)
… we need to think about how to deal with the TD calls, etc.

[adjourned]

Summary of resolutions

  1. merge PR https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/359, subject to a second stage of review later (when the UCR document goes to Note).
  2. merge PR https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/363, subject to a second stage of review later (when the UCR document goes to Note).
  3. The group decided to work on a new charter and may request an 3 month extension in August/September to complete the chartering work.
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