W3C

– DRAFT –
WoT-WG/IG

05 February 2025

Attendees

Present
Charith_Perera, Daniel_Peintner, Jan_Romann, Josh_Thomas, Kaz_Ashimura, Kunihiko_Toumura, Mahda_Noura, Michael_Koster, Michael_McCool, Tomoaki_Mizushima
Regrets
-
Chair
McCool
Scribe
mjk

Meeting minutes

Agenda review

<kaz> (some discussion about potential guests)

Minutes review from January 29th

<kaz> Jan-29

McCool: any objections to the minutes?
… no objections, accepted

<kaz> (typos fixed)

Quick Items

Breakouts

<kaz> Breakouts Day 2025 repo

McCool: there is a call for breakout sessions for W3C Breakout Day
… do we want to propose a breakout session?
… we have about a month to submit a proposal
… we would need volunteers if we decide to participate
… any comments?

Kaz: if we want to respond as a whole group, we should create issues

McCool: yes, we can create an issue and a draft for review

Inclusiveness Discussion

<kaz> wot-binding-templates issue 393 - Registry Inclusiveness

McCool: no discussion today but please look at the github issue

Notices

McCool: anything?

Meetups

McCool: any new meetups:

Smart Cities IG

McCool: is there a slot for the Smart City IG

Kaz: there is a slot for JP 10PM JST February 17

Kaz: still working on US-EU friendly slot. also inviting the Chair of the Nordic Smart Cities CG Chair.

Cloud-Edge-Client CG

McCool: trying to find a calendar slot that works

McCool: any other meetup announcements?

Liaisons

McCool: are there any updates on liaisons?

ETSI

McCool: we met with ETSI, went through the presentation, and are getting an idea of how they fit in
… February 10th ETSI call is cancelled

<kaz> Feb-3 minutes

<McCool> w3c/wot-ngsi-ld#5 - notes on NSGI-LD/WoT concept comparison

McCool: (reviewing minutes from the February 3rd meeting)

Holidays

<kaz> Holidays

McCool: I will be unavailable the entire month of May

McCool: will we take May 5-9 off for Golden Week?

Kaz: yes, people will be off that week

mizushima: March 3rd is not a holiday in Japan

McCool: OK, right (removes)

McCool: we may decide to cancel during Golden Week

Schedule

McCool: any changes to the schedule?
… no changes

dape: the Scripting API schedule update is in the calendar

Policies

<kaz> Policy issues

IE Policy

<kaz> wot PR 1224 - Create invited-expert.md

McCool: are there any updates to the IE policy?

Koster: no updates, all changes should be merged

McCool: let's make a proposal to adopt the IE policy

<McCool> proposal: adopt the proposed Invited Expert policy as stated in https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1224, and also to merge it directly into active policies

McCool: the policy policy needs to be updated for how to merge PRs

McCool: any objections to the resolution?

RESOLUTION: adopt the proposed Invited Expert policy as stated in https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1224, and also to merge it directly into active policies

McCool: no objections, resolved to adopt and will merge the PR after cleanup

<kaz> policy-adoption.md

McCool: we have 2 weeks to reverse this if there is a problem

Kaz: you mean the above privacy-adoption.md by "policy policy", and we need to update that too. Right?

McCool: yeah, it's about which directory to put drafts in

Moderator policy

<kaz> wot issue 1208 - [Policy Proposal] Managing moderator policy

McCool: what is the status of the moderator policy?

Koster: we need to look into the roles and responsibilities document

McCool: specifically we need to decide how selection works and the co-moderator policy

Koster: is there a W3C policy for moderators?

McCool: the W3C doesn't say much about task forces
… TF leads are often document editors, as are our moderators

<kaz> wot issue 1117 - [Policy Proposal] Roles and responsibilities within the WG/IG

McCool: open issue #1117 for Roles and Responsibility

<McCool> https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/proposals/policies/roles-and-responsibilities.md

Koster: there is a document Ege created we need to move

Koster: we could update the R&R document with more bullets and then create a new .md document for TF moderators

McCool: selection is a separate topic from Roles and Responsibilities

Kaz: we need to include Ege in the discussion for next time

McCool: we need to clean up the issue list at the next chairs call

<kaz> wot issues in general

McCool: the selection procedure really isn't part of Roles and Responsibilities

Koster: it will go in the .md document

TF Leads

Use Case backlog

<kaz> wot-usecases remaining issues

McCool: how can we make progress when other TFs are inactive?
… we have work on TD Templates use cases which needs to be aligned with ThingModel work

McCool: four cases...
... 1. user story from an inactive TF. We reactivate it temporarily to generate these.
... makes sense for discovery and security
... 2. active TFs can generate user stories (focus on new things...)
... 3. UC TF could draft user stories and ask for review and confirmation from relevant TFs (for older, existing features)
... 4. We could just close old issues asking for use cases and user stories in UC TF.

McCool: does anyone object to #3, having the Use Case TF draft the user stories?

Kaz: not objecting, but does the UC TF have resources to generate new user stories?

McCool: we could extract user stories from existing issues and have the TF work on them, for example the Thing Template use cases

Kaz: we should rather have the TD TF do the draft and the UC TF can join that discussion.

McCool: Option 2 is preferred but might not be practical in all cases
… we want to get a good document with a lot of use cases this year
… when is it appropriate for the UC TF draft new stories and ask for review from the feature TF?

McCool: they are short and there are a lot of them
… I think it's reasonable to propose some user stories from the UC TF

Kaz: the concern is about resources. let's ask Ege also about his opinions as well.

McCool: volunteers would help

<McCool> proposal: UC TF can generate drafts of user stories, use cases, and use case categories but must ask the relevant TF for review and approval before merging. If the TF is inactive approval can be requested in the main call and via email with a 2-week review period.

McCool: does anyone object to making this a resolution?
… it gives us the ability to make progress

RESOLUTION: UC TF can generate drafts of user stories, use cases, and use case categories but must ask the relevant TF for review and approval before merging. If the TF is inactive approval can be requested in the main call and via email with a 2-week review period.

McCool: hearing no objections, this is resolved

TF reports

McCool: any TF reports?
… none

Adjourn

McCool: any other business or topics?
… none, adjourned

Summary of resolutions

  1. adopt the proposed Invited Expert policy as stated in https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1224, and also to merge it directly into active policies
  2. UC TF can generate drafts of user stories, use cases, and use case categories but must ask the relevant TF for review and approval before merging. If the TF is inactive approval can be requested in the main call and via email with a 2-week review period.
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