W3C

WoT-IG/WG

28 July 2021

Attendees

Present
Cristiano_Aguzzi, Daniel_Peintner, David_Ezell, Ege_Korkan, Kaz_Ashimura, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster, Michael_Lagally, Michael_McCool, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Tetsushi_Matsuda, Tomoaki_Mizushima
Regrets
-
Chair
McCool/Sebastian
Scribe
dape

Meeting minutes

Minutes

--> July-21 main call

McCool: Minor fix "on fly" -> "in progress"
… looks good elsewise
… BTW, the actions in minutes are all done
… no objections -> minutes approved

June vF2F minutes

https://www.w3.org/2021/06/21-30-wot-vf2f-minutes.html

McCool: Minutes are all reviewed by now

<McCool> proposal: publish minutes for June 2021 F2F as given in https://www.w3.org/2021/06/21-30-wot-vf2f-minutes.html

Kaz: Looks good

Resolution: publish minutes for June 2021 F2F as given in https://www.w3.org/2021/06/21-30-wot-vf2f-minutes.html

McCool: no objections -> merge

Quick updates

Meeting schedule for August

<kaz> Meeting cancellation plan

McCool: people on vacation next week
… Sebastian on vacation the week after
… we will cancel most of the calls..
… see exceptions https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Cancellations

DIoT Workshop

https://oeg-upm.github.io/DIoT/

McCool: conflicts with TPAC
… how can we handle DIoT workshop
… doing tweet?
… on the WoT channel

Sebastian: maybe also use the mailinglist

Another workshop

<Ege> https://dai-snac21.hotcrp.com/

Ege: there is another workshop, see link above
… organized by Carsten Bormann
… Victor is active also

McCool: Question: we should add this to the event list...
… or under "related events"
… we still have some time for tweet wording

McCool: I take the action to generate a proposal

<Ege> https://dai-snac21.hotcrp.com/

<McCool> https://oeg-upm.github.io/DIoT/

McCool: let's handle that by email
… approve next week in main call

TPAC 2021 planning

McCool: TPAC in October
… online event

October vF2F wiki

McCool: we have some dates...
… doodle for week, see https://doodle.com/poll/c48w8m4naxfnzw5n
… Oct. 4-8 (week before breakouts)
… TPAC Official: Oct. 18-22 - Breakouts
… TPAC Official: Oct. 25-29 - Group/Joint Mtgs
… we also need to decide TestFest dates
… tentative content in wiki already

McCool: Some issues in header (dates) of Doodle

Kaz: just fixed

McCool: should decide weeks next week

IG Charter

McCool: we have draft

draft IG Charter

McCool: added "develop supporting material..." to the scope
… thing template was taken out... handled in TD
… added security requirements
… added Sustainability
… added tutorials next to primers

McCool: Any comments on PR#979
… should merge next week

<McCool> ?

McCool: last week of review

WG Charter

McCool: To be renewed also
… time-wise not that critical
… anyhow, should start work
… discussion about whether extension or re-chartering
… re-chartering gives more time
… but I would rather like to extend

Kaz: important: need to get chartered for any activity

McCool: assume we go for extension

Kaz: extension longer than 6 months requires AC review

McCool: suggest 6 month (no AC review)
… July 1st, .. for extension start

Kaz: let's also check with all editors about milestones

McCool: Okay. Let's first do IG than WG charter

W3C Smart Cities Workshop

draft workshop report

Kaz: updated report and asked for review
… will add some more classification
… we're getting close

McCool: will do another path to review also

McCool: Plans to finalize?

Kaz: wrap-up the report by the end of this week.
… distribute the recorded live videos and update the draft Smart Cities IG Charter et cetera in August

Testing needed prior to CR transition

McCool: Plan to clean-up tooling
… e.g., directory structure
… we still need implementation descriptions
… copy over testing structure?
… w.r.t. testing call... I do not have time
… in September we should have weekly testing calls

McCool: 1 outstanding PR in testing repo
… we should merge soon
… Ege, can you take a look

Ege: will check

McCool: I will take a look also

Publication planning

McCool: we do have Milestone calculator, see https://w3c.github.io/spec-releases/milestones/
… takes care of certain restrictions
… no pending publication at the moment
… in security and discovery we are still not ready for publication
… aim for publication in September

Liaisons

McCool: we did have some calls in use-case call
… summary of OPCUA discussion`?

Sebastian: Had presentation from OPCUA
… will continue the discussion in next use case call

Kaz: w.r.t. to ECHONET, will talk with ECHONET on Friday
… w.r.t. ISO also will send a reminder to them about the next step about how to refer to their ontology from TD via @context

McCool: ECLASS dependency on ISO

Sebastian: We will have document from Christian
… will also talk with David Ezell

David: +1

Sebastian: BACnet also of importance

McCool: joined call with Solid CG at TPAC
… let's discuss in September

TF Reports

Scripting

Daniel: Split TS about TD and API

Security

McCool: long discussion about NETCONF
… make use OPC-UA security key distribution system ?

<McCool> https://github.com/w3c/wot-security-best-practices/issues/13

Discovery

McCool: clean-up work
… we closed about 10 issues
… and created more specific issues

Marketing

Sebastian: Checked website and merged PRs
… new entries in developer space
… e.g. sayWOT
… talked about news .. e.g. on twitter
… less activity in August
… question how to improve visibility
… idea to have visitor counter is still on-going

McCool: BTW, I have updated all repos with new social header

Use-cases

Lagally: we had call yesterday
… contribution from OPC-UA member by Siemens
… touched technical aspects
… continue next week
… next week is last call before summer break
… we had ECLASS presentation also

<McCool> OPC UA slides

McCool: we have contribution directory

PlugFest/Testing

McCool: no call

TD

Ege: we looked mostly into issues
… issues are in Agenda and marked as "DONE"
… followed up with 3 PRs
… some todos followed also

Architecture

Lagally: long discussion about action semantics
… guided by Ben Francis
… tomorrow we plan to finish this work.
… Note: also last call before summer break
… maybe just a one hour call (due to conflicts)

McCool: I can try to take over the 2nd hour if there is need

Lagally: Thanks

AOB

David: Jack Dickinson to join the Use Cases call or the Architecture call??

<kaz> Use Case call wiki

<kaz> Architecture call wiki

<kaz> Meeting time table

McCool: Should check with ML

Lagally: Join use-case call?

McCool: or wait till September?

McCool: no testing call, TD call in 1 hour

<kaz> [adjourned]

Summary of resolutions

  1. publish minutes for June 2021 F2F as given in https://www.w3.org/2021/06/21-30-wot-vf2f-minutes.html
Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 131 (Sat Apr 24 15:23:43 2021 UTC).