W3C

WoT-IG/WG

21 July 2021

Attendees

Present
Daniel_Peintner, Ege_Korkan, Kaz_Ashimura, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster, Michael_Lagally, Michael_McCool, Ryuichi_Matsukura, Tomoaki_Mizushma
Regrets
Sebastian_Kaebisch
Chair
McCool
Scribe
kaz

Meeting minutes

Minutes

July-14

McCool: one typo
… s/umplication/implication/

Kaz: just fixed

McCool: any other comments?

(none; approved)

vF2F minutes

McCool: Day 2, 3, and 5
… to be reviewed this week

Lagally: will do tomorrow

McCool: ok

IG Recharter

McCool: draft Charter to be fixed next week
… updated based on the new template, etc.

Issue 966 - WoT IG rechartering 2021

McCool: merged a PR

PR 977 - update proposed 2021 IG charter renewal to template

McCool: look at the topic list
… also maybe add Solid, etc., for liaison
… your comments welcome
… finalize the draft before August 2

WG Recharter

McCool: new guideline for chartering clarified

Charter guideline

McCool: note the guideline describes the whole procedure for new groups
… so we should concentrate on rechartering part

McCool: we should aim September for draft Charter
… and should finalize it at TPAC

Smart Cities Workshop

Kaz: have been working with the PC for the report

report

Kaz: would finalize it today
… will add some more descriptions to each session

CR transition

McCool: we need to update the schedule
… (originally mentioned "July 15")
… btw, we should look at dates for TPAC meeting
… Kaz, can you generate a Doodle?

Kaz: will do

Action: kaz to generate a doodle to pick dates for TPAC meeting

Kaz: maybe we could be flexible for our own vF2F part
… though we need to care about the TPAC schedule for the joint meetings

McCool: right
… can you generate a wiki page as well

Action: kaz to generate a wiki page for TPAC vF2F

Kaz: note we need to respond to the Event Team about our schedule and put it on the wiki

McCool: yeah
… we should start discussion next week

<Zakim> dape, you wanted to TPAC2021, see https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC/2021

Daniel: W3C TPAC wiki above

McCool: at least we need to avoid the breakout week and joint meetings for our own vF2F

Testing

McCool: will skip testing today
… our next goal is our Testfest
… and check all the features more accurately

Publication

McCool: would like to see when to publish what
… still pending resolution for Discovery
… will aim for review in August and publication in September
… Security Best Practices
… working on clean-up and object security
… not ready for publication yet
… any other updates?

Daniel: discussed schedule for Scripting API
… need some more time
… so postponing publication

McCool: ok
… will go over design issues
… anything else?

Lagally: Profile is in progress
… need a couple more weeks

McCool: ok
… will finalize in September?
… good thing for Security is Oliver has agreed to review signing
… anything about TD?
… will discuss it during the TD call later

Liaisons

McCool: link added for the vF2F OpenDay discussion

OpenDay

McCool: ITU-T
… mentioned several additional documents
… ECHONET
… discussion ongoing
… ISO and ECLASS
… also ongoing
… need example to clarify how to refer to their ontologies from TD
… T2TRG/IETF
… followup based on the discussion on OpenDay
… OPC UA
… waiting for updates from Sebastian
… OGC
… technical discussion continued
… Solid
… more discussion to be done
… GAIA-X
… data infrastructure

TF Reports

McCool: Scripting?

Daniel: meeting on Monday
… as I said, still working on alignment with Discovery
… so postponing publication
… also working on Typescript definition
… Scripting API for TD so that WebThing, etc., can use it
… discussion on op value
… binding doesn't support reading values at once

McCool: Security
… looked at PRs for Best Practices
… bunch of work for reorganization OAuth
… signing as well
… recommend one particular one
… also recommend TLS 1.1
… browser support issue
… issue of local security
… transport for key management
… something like DID
… no real strong standard yet
… still an open question
… Discovery
… bunch of clean-up
… pagenation still has open questions
… Hydra is basically W3C CG work
… the trouble is that their document is a CG report (not REC)
… long discussion on how to handle that
… maybe should have necessary content within our spec itself
… still discussing
… looking at Web API Designing
… how to design actions, etc.
… will bring it to the Architecture call tomorrow
… Marketing?
… talked about some update on the Web page
… TPAC 2021
… issue about analytics

McCool: DIoT workshop in October
… will talk about that during the Marketing call next Tuesday
… also some more talks on WoT to be added to the Marketing pages

Ege: social media icons?

<Ege> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1196

McCool: we should have at least a link to the web page

Kaz: have you checked with Coralie?

Daniel: yes, got response on another issue

Coralie's response

McCool: ok
… note we should care about the design practice of CRAP
… Contrast, Repetition, Alignment, Proximity

Kaz: wondering about which repos would be impacted with this decision

McCool: all the WoT repos

<McCool> proposal: add the website link and the social media links following https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1196 to all WoT repos

<McCool> proposal: add the website link and the social media links following https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1196 to the top README in all WoT repos

<McCool> proposal: add the website link and the social media icons and links following https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1196 to the top README in all WoT repos

<dape> +1

Resolution: add the website link and the social media icons and links following https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1196 to the top README in all WoT repos

McCool: btw, when I worked on the draft IG Charter, found some information on how to handle group resolutions
… wondering what kind of text to be put on our own Charter

Kaz: we can put our own suggested text based on our experience

McCool: let's continue discussion

Lagally: Arch/Profile
… action semantics proposal from Ben
… will continue to work tomorrow

McCool: 7am PDT tomorrow
… AOB?

(none)

McCool: no Testing call today
… TD call in one hour

[adjourned]

Summary of action items

  1. kaz to generate a doodle to pick dates for TPAC meeting
  2. kaz to generate a wiki page for TPAC vF2F

Summary of resolutions

  1. add the website link and the social media icons and links following https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1196 to the top README in all WoT repos
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