Meeting minutes
McCool: <Agenda walkthrough>
<kaz> Agenda
Minutes
McCool: let's review last meeting minutes:
<kaz> July-7
McCool: discussion about implementations ...
… ITU-T: there are two workshops: a proposed joint workshop and an ITU-T hosted WS
… can we publish?
- no objections
… kaz, please add a note to the ITU-T workshop plans to avoid confusion
vF2F minutes
McCool: some TFs have reviewed their parts, I hope TD can be reviewed today, use cases and architecture + profiles tomorrow
… we had 5 external presenters, time was a bit short
… some of the slides were provided, can we please add links to them to the minutes?
… Open day minutes were reviewed - no change required
… Day 1: charter discussion etc.
… Note: we cannot do a new WG charter right now, but only close towards the end of the current charter
McCool: Minutes for Day1 and Day 4 were reviewed and approved, others will be reviewed by TFs
IG Rechartering
IG rechartering:
<McCool> https://
McCool: if you have comments, please add them to the issue
Smart Cities Workshop
mmc workshop has happened, Kaz created a draft report
Kaz: workshop went very well, 3 sessions, we identified important stakeholders, govt. agencies, committees, ...
… we updated the smart cities IG charter and will bring to W3M, the notes are under review by the program committee of the workshop
McCool: recordings and slides are available, some will still be uploaded
Testing
McCool: We need to get our testing organised, let's talk about it in the testing call.
… we should also have testing calls in the upcoming weeks. October plugfest will be testing plug fest, no new experimental features before testing is done.
Publication Planning
McCool: we have updates in editors drafts, including discovery - need to do a resolution next week
… editors drafts are available for reviews
… other plans?
Daniel: Scripting will take some more months
McCool: we have a couple of MRs in place for security best practices - they can wait a bit
… any planned updates for the TD spec?
Sebastian: will discuss in today's TD call, some new findings from F2F and issues - ideally before the summer break but not sure.
McCool: I have created some PRs for architecture, hope to get them merged tomorrow
… terminology about hubs and gateway fixes has some implications, hope to get them in tomorrow
Liaisons
ITU-T SG20
McCool: ITU-T got back to us, potentially need to discuss with W3M if they want to have an official joint workshop between ITU-T and W3C, there was a bit of confusion about two workshops, Kaz will sort it out
ECHONET
<Ege> https://
McCool: Echonet: need clarification on concrete binding - try to do it and identify technical issues
Kaz: expectation of Echonet/Matsuda-san is to start with the examples that were provided in the slides
McCool: if there's a binding for Echonet, it could be reviewed, but an example is not a spec
Ege: In part of the restructuring of the binding specification I'm proposing an Echonet binding. that Matsuda-san is also an author
Kaz: We could start with the example
Lagally: we may be missing important parts of the spec that are not in the example
Matsuda-san: Please start with the example, I personally would like to write a TD to allow W3C WoT to access Echonet server
… you can access the URL with the binding template spec, but personally I think you cannot specify the data format
… if a client reads a property the HTTP return body is different
… key + value pair is returned as a JSON object, format is different
Lagally: please let's discuss in tomorrow's architecture+profile session
Kaz: I suggest we start with the interface discussion
… we should start the official technical discussion with the Echonet steering committee - I will send it
ECLASS and ISO TC184/SC4
McCool: ECLASS and ISO - we look for extension ontologies for both cases
… I think we have some specification gaps, how to get ontologies, ...
… next step for ECLASS to write up some use cases
Sebastian: CDD is a different approach than ECLASS, we also need to clarify what is meant with "ontology"
… commonalities [between ECLASS and ISO] are IEC61360
McCool: if there's common ground, we should share same base ontologies
Kaz: we should handle both organisations in parallel to identify what and how to refer to their ontologies.
McCool: these guys are experts - why don't we start with ECLASS, if we hit another ontology we may be able to adapt
the Other Liaisons
Sebastian: OPC-UA - will be discussed in next UC call.
McCool: DTDL will be difficult
TF reports
Daniel: Scripting: working on finalizing some topic around discovery. We decided for scripting that the review of minutes is happening outside of the call.
McCool: others could follow that model
… tooling: perhaps we could do minutes in github
… Security / Best practices - Some PRs and cleanup are going on, specifically wrt. OAuth. This should be removed from the UC document, will clean it up in the best practices document.
Sebastian: Marketing: content updates for the web page - news on twitter to share info about vF2F
… some discussions about visitor counters, identify room for improvements
… create a youtube channel with WoT based videos
… Ege plans to hire a student to create tutorials
<kaz> [ Please note I gave a comment on that during the Marketing call. ]
Lagally: Use Cases
… had discussion on ECLASS
… expecting further collaboration on how to use their data definition from TD based on some concrete use case
[adjourned]