DID WG Telco — Minutes

Date: 2020-06-16

See also the Agenda and the IRC Log


Present: Ivan Herman, Brent Zundel, Yancy Ribbens, Justin Richer, Dave Longley, Jonathan Holt, paulm, Orie Steele, Amy Guy, Manu Sporny, Chris Winczewski, Drummond Reed, Joe Andrieu, Eugeniu Rusu, Daniel Burnett, David Ezell



Chair: Brent Zundel

Scribe(s): Chris Winczewski


Ivan Herman: issue with github, for example previews not working
… minutes may not be generated properly either
… just an FYI, no support requested but status unknown

1. Reintroductions

paulm: Paul Madsen from Hedera Hashgraph
… recently submitted our DID method

2. next special topic call

Brent Zundel: special topic call on Thursday
… June 18th 12pm ET

Manu Sporny: we should have a PR to work from, completion of action item with dlongley

3. extended discussion time

Brent Zundel: June 30th 10am and July 1st noon meetings set

Brent Zundel: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-did-wg/2020Jun/0015.html

Brent Zundel: replacing face to face meeting
… any changes to the agenda?

4. issues’ status check

Brent Zundel: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+sort%3Aupdated-asc

Brent Zundel: status checks

Brent Zundel: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/269

Brent Zundel: Issue #269

Joe Andrieu: Not sure how to resolve this issue with Kyle
… we have not been effective communicating DID control
… I will add to this today

Brent Zundel: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/33

Brent Zundel: Issue #33
… Dmitri not present to discuss
… This has turned into the “same as” property
… current status unknown

Dave Longley: special call has been requested, does the group agree?

Manu Sporny: I think we need a special topic call on this

Manu Sporny: ivan, I think we were thinking of “stealing” the meaning of sameAs from RDF :) – without all the OWL baggage.

Ivan Herman: looking at the issue, this is very RDF specific. What is the impact on other formats

Brent Zundel: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/55

Brent Zundel: Issue #55

Manu Sporny: but we’ll need a special topic call to talk through the details.

Brent Zundel: Oliver and Mike not present

Manu Sporny: I will update the issue. DID registries specification can take up this work

Brent Zundel: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/171

Brent Zundel: Issue #171

Amy Guy: ethereumAddress is already registered in the Spec Registries, for the record

Manu Sporny: We need to have a special topic call for what we are doing with JWK. Blocked currently.
… Adding to issue

Brent Zundel: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/163

Drummond Reed: No change to this
… we are updating terms and working on this now
… action item is to link just prior to CR. Will proceed with this and add a note to this effect.

Ivan Herman: ReSpec gives you tools for this

Drummond Reed: We are trying to to this as we go

Brent Zundel: Issue #94

Brent Zundel: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/94

Daniel Burnett: will plan on doing this but would welcome help if offered. Have the security questions been answered?

Jonathan Holt: I am working on it

Brent Zundel: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/94

Daniel Burnett: Ok, I am not blocked by that yet

Brent Zundel: Issue #292
… skipping as these are handled by separate issues
… Issue #119

Brent Zundel: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/119

Daniel Burnett: This is the master issue. In my mind this is about the same as the previous but depends on it. Adding comment to issue that chairs will start this when #92 and #291 are complete.

Brent Zundel: Issue #291

Brent Zundel: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/291

Brent Zundel: assigning to jonathan_holt

Jonathan Holt: jonathan-consensyshealth

Brent Zundel: Issue #72

Brent Zundel: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/72

Drummond Reed: Nothing has changed. Will update section when main content is done.

Brent Zundel: Anyone can work on issues, not just those who are assigned to the task. Please help the community and the editors if possible.

Drummond Reed: I would be wildly enthusiastic if anyone would be willing to contribute text.

Brent Zundel: Issue #202

Brent Zundel: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/202

Daniel Burnett: Perhaps some of our European members?

Daniel Burnett: (even though GDPR affects us all)

Justin Richer: no update

Brent Zundel: Issue #23

Brent Zundel: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/23

Amy Guy: brent: i wrote an update just now on the issue

Brent Zundel: Issue #58

Brent Zundel: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/58

Amy Guy: I think this is done, actually..

Amy Guy: more or less

Amy Guy: JoeAndrieu: I think this issue is overtaken by events!

Joe Andrieu: We need other people to help with this.

Brent Zundel: I will add a comment.

Joe Andrieu: This should be discussed in the CCG call

Amy Guy: JoeAndrieu: there’s a new issue for Methods Registry and the LD Cryptosuites one is not longer referenced

Joe Andrieu: This relates to process issues that need to be decided by the CCG
… Is Wayne a member of the WG?

Ivan Herman: yes

Joe Andrieu: We need to be intentional about the link between groups

Manu Sporny: I will bring this up in the CCG meeting
… massive conversation but many contributors not on the call today

Brent Zundel: Issue #289

Brent Zundel: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/289

Dave Longley: I think there is a PR from Kyle which allows people to take action with regards to DID subjects. This may solve this issue and I will add this comment.

Brent Zundel: Issue #281

Brent Zundel: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/281

Brent Zundel: related to Issue #23
… Issue #174

Brent Zundel: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/174

Brent Zundel: blocked by Issue #65

Amy Guy: brent, same status

Brent Zundel: Issue #104

Brent Zundel: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/104

Brent Zundel: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/313 is the only issue they raised

Ivan Herman: there is an issue that we received from the internationalization group. Issue #313
… it looks like an editorial comment to me

Amy Guy: ivan, you can assign that to me

Amy Guy: (unless someone else wants it)

Brent Zundel: should we leave this open pending #313?

Ivan Herman: yes

Brent Zundel: Issue #105

Brent Zundel: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/105

Ivan Herman: nothing to report. waiting for them
… I have pinged them, the ball is in their court

Brent Zundel: Issue #9

Brent Zundel: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/9

Brent Zundel: it looks like the PR was created and merged

Manu Sporny: Part of this needs discussion with regards to JWK, the rest is replaced
… there is another issue tracking this for JWK

Dave Longley: +1 for closing

Brent Zundel: Issue #10

Brent Zundel: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/10

Manu Sporny: We can close this for the same reason as #9 and I will add this comment

Brent Zundel: Issue #301

Brent Zundel: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/301

Brent Zundel: nobody present to discuss
… Issue #176

Brent Zundel: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/176

Brent Zundel: last comment was that a PR would be created by selfissued
… Issue #118

Brent Zundel: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/118

Amy Guy: brent, no update since last time

Brent Zundel: Issue #236

Brent Zundel: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/236

Manu Sporny: This is a registry issue. Those who want this should open a PR there. I will close this here.

Amy Guy: publicKeyHex is already in the Registries

Brent Zundel: Issue #260

Brent Zundel: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/260

Drummond Reed: Writing a set of diagrams.
… Would we consider an appendix for a non-normative explanation?

Amy Guy: implementation guide!

Ivan Herman: I am not an editor but I would love to have that

Drummond Reed: I am volunteering to do it, what would we call it?

Ivan Herman: An appendix is correct and ReSpec can handle this.

Jonathan Holt: Adding controllers opens up keys to vulnerabilities. Can you explain the text proposed?

Drummond Reed: The text is focusing on just the process. We should add text for this in the security considerations

Brent Zundel: We are now on page 2!

Brent Zundel: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues?page=2&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+sort%3Aupdated-asc

Brent Zundel: Issue #151

Brent Zundel: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/151

Brent Zundel: Issue #154

Brent Zundel: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/154

Amy Guy: brent, manu, proof has been removed right?

Manu Sporny: rhiaro, yes… don’t know if there are other things left… need to check.

Brent Zundel: Issue #195

Brent Zundel: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/195

Manu Sporny: I believe we have removed everything. I think this is done and we can close it.
… not blocked by did-core registry but we need a PR

Drummond Reed: +1 to Manu’s language.

Dave Longley: another option is that #312 may solve this

Manu Sporny: next step is to see if #312 solves the issue, if not, object to the new comment

Brent Zundel: Issue #205

Brent Zundel: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/205

Justin Richer: I still think that we do not have group consensus.
… We cannot have multiple ways to approach unknown properties so we still need to pick one.
… The text says we must ignore but we don’t know what ignore needs

Dave Longley: the confusion is around what “unknown” means
… there are differences between JSON and JSON-LD
… I will type up comments

Brent Zundel: Thank you all. See you Thursday for the special topic call.