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=When & Where=

* May 8-9 (Tuesday-Wednesday)

* Istituto per la Matematica Applicata e Tecnologie Informatiche "Enrico Magenes" (IMATI), Colombo Hall, 11th floor, Consiglio Nazionale delle Ricerche (CNR) Via de Marini,6 (Torre di Francia), 16149 Genoa,Italy [https://www.google.com/maps/place/Via+de+Marini,+6,+16149+Genova+GE,+Italy/@44.4086653,8.8989098,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x12d34115400751f3:0x8e5a7ca263080b08!8m2!3d44.4086615!4d8.9011038 Map]

=Attendees=

==In person==

# Simon - both days
# LarsG - Tuesday + Wednesday
# DaveBrowning - both days (need to leave early Wednesday)
# Karen - both days (also would like to leave by ~4:30 on Wednesday)
# Peter - both days
# Riccardo - both days
# Andrea - both days
# Jaroslav - both days
# Dan - both days

==Remotely==

# Makx - Tuesday until 11:00; Wednesday whole day
# Antoine - at this stage I don't know but I'll try to be available for the profile discussion. Actually I may be able to come half-day live (my holidays are in Italy)
# Rob? Tuesday till 10:30. Wed till about 2pm  
# Nick? (when?)
# Tom Baker (DCMI) (Tuesday morning)

==Not attending at all==

# ...

=Disorganised List of Topics that may eventually get into the agenda=

Just add to the list below anything you think needs to have space in the agenda

* Nic & Rob proposal for "profile description"
* Karen - Dublin Core approach to application profile
* Makx - EC approach to application profile ([https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-wg/2018May/0045.html presentation])
* Lars - [https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/196 Profile document proposal]
* Simon - [https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/wiki/Data-aspects---semantics finer grained semantics (DCAT)]
* Simon - [https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/wiki/Cataloguing-data-services cataloguing services (DCAT)]
* Jaroslav - Simon's topics, UC "real world context", UCR document status and update procedure
** 2 new uses cases?

=Agenda=

==Tuesday, May 8, 8-17 CEST (in [https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=DXWG+F2F3+Day+1&iso=20180508T06&p1=1440&ah=9 your time zone])==

{| class="wikitable"
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! Time !! Topic !! Links !! Scribe (&ge; 1)
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| 8:00 || Gather || || LarsG
|-
| 8:15-10:00 ||  Part I || || 
|-
| 10 min || Review agenda and goals || we need to:
* have an understanding of what a profile is
* look at the requirements and yes/no each
* try to pin down these requirements sufficient to write a first draft
 ||
|-
| 5 min || Review definition of "profile" || [https://w3c.github.io/dxwg/profiles/#Introduction Draft document]<br />
[https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/ProfileContext Discussion and options]
|
|-
| 20 min || DCAT-AP - Makx || [http://makxdekkers.com/DXWG/DCAT-AP.pdf PDF] ||
|-
| 20 min || Proposal - (Nick & Rob) ||  [https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/ProfileDescriptors Draft wiki page]<br />
[https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/tree/gh-pages/profiledesc github folder] 
|
|-
| 10 min || Proposal - Lars || [https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/196 proposal] || PWinstanley
|-
| ? || Others? || ||
|-
| 10 min || DCMI AP - Karen|| 
[http://dublincore.org/documents/singapore-framework/ Framework] <br />
[http://dublincore.org/documents/dc-dsp/ Constraint vocabulary] <br />
[http://dublincore.org/documents/profile-guidelines/ Guidelines] <br />
|
|-
| 10 min || Proposal/Questions - Antoine || [https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1dHkpwKwUwMgS1RqSCTPO3uOoRiY_qNk0z5bhXJlYi4Y/ proposal] ||
|-
| 10:00-10:20 || ''Break'' || ||
|-
| 10:20-12:30 || Proposals || || SimonCox
|-
| || Discussion || || AndreaPerego
|-
| 12:30-13:00 || ''Lunch'' || ||
|-
| 13:00-15:30 ||  Discussion: scope, plans || || Jaroslav_Pullmann
|-
| 15:30-15:50 || ''Break'' || ||
|-
| 15:50-16:15 || Miscellaneous || || DaveBrowning
|-
| || New Use cases? ||
|
|-
| 16:15-17:00  || Begin requirements || ||
|-
| || Already approved (?) ||

[https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/74 Profile negotiation [RPFN] #74] <br />
[https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/73 Profiles listing [RPFL] #73] <br />
[https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/72 Profile definition [RPFDF] #72] <br />
[https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/69 Metadata guidance rules [RMDG] #69
|
|-
| || To approve ||
[https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/labels/f2f3 All] <br />
[https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/75 Profile representation [RPFRP] #75]
|
|-
|}

====Some questions====
* What do we need so that content negotiation works with application profiles?
* Where should the profile information reside?
* What are the dependencies between deliverables 2 & 3?

==Wednesday, May 9, 8-17 CEST (in [https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=DXWG+F2F3+Day+2&iso=20180509T06&p1=1440&ah=9 your time zone])==

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Time !! Topic !! Links !! Scribe (&ge; 1)
|-
| 8:00 || Gather ||  ||
|-
| 8:15-10:00 ||  Requirements to approve 
| 
| SimonCox
|-
| || 
Relationships between profiles 
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*[https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/206 Machine-readable specifications of application profiles need to be easily publishable, and optimize re-use of existing specifications (6.1)] <br />
*[https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/207 Each application profile needs to be documented, preferably by showing/reusing what is common across profiles (6.1) #207] <br />
*[https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/214 A mechanism must be available to identify conformance to each inherited profile given conformance to a profile that specialises it (6.1)] <br />
*[https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/205 Profiles have URI identifiers that resolve to more detailed descriptions (6.1) #205]
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|-
| ||
Inheritance
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*[https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/212 Profiles may inherit clauses from one or more parent profiles (6.1)] <br />
*[https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/213 Profiles must support a view that includes all inherited constraints clearly identifying the parent profile the constraint is defined in (6.1)]
|
|-
| 10:00-10:20 || ''Break'' || ||
|-

| 10:20-12:30 || Requirements to approve || || AndreaPerego
|-
| || Profile contents
|
*[https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/209 Profiles must have properties for at least two levels of documentation: 1) short definition 2) input and editing guidance (6.1)] <br />
*[https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/216 Profiles extend or refine (UC 5.37) #216] <br />
*[https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/218 Profiles list valid vocabulary terms for a metadata usage environment (UC 5.37)] <br />
*[https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/219 Profile vocabulary lists may be defined as closed (no other terms are allowed) or open (other terms are allowed) (UC 5.37)] <br />
*[https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/220 Profiles should reuse vocabulary terms defined elsewhere] <br />
*[https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/221 Profiles support data creation functions (UC 5.46)]
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|-
| || Conneg
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*[https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/217 Responses can conform to multiple, modular profiles (UC 5.3)]
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|-
| 12:30-13:00 || ''Lunch'' || ||
|-
| 13:00-15:30 ||  Requirements to approve || || PWinstanley
|-
| || Profiles and validation
|
*[https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/204 Clarify any relationship between profiles and validation languages (6.1) #204] <br />
*[https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/208 Application profiles need a rich expression for the validation of metadata (6.1)] <br />
*[https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/210 Profiles must support declaration of vocabulary constraints (6.1)] <br />
*[https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/215 Profiles describe conformance to metadata standards (6.1)] <br />
*[https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/211 Profiles should provide both machine and human readable views (6.1)] <br /> 
*[https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/222 Profiles must support discoverability via search engines (UC 5.40)]
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|-
| || Other github issues || ||
|-
| || ||
*[https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/195 Definition of "Schema" (as opposed to profile)] <br />
*[https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/194 Definition of "Formalism" needed ] <br />
*[https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/162 Profile Composition and Languages #162] <br />
*[https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/164 DCAT - DDI alignment (profile) #164] <br />
*[https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/65 Entailment of schema.org [RES] ] <br />
*[https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/45 use standard for profile identification ] <br />
*[https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/8 ID37 Europeana profile ecosystem: representing, publishing and consuming application profiles of the Europeana Data Model (EDM)]
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|-
| 15:30-15:50 || Break || ||
|-
| 15:50-17:00  || Plans and next steps || Who? When? ||
|-
|}

=Monday Evening Meet-Up=

Those wishing to meet for dinner on Monday night, prior to the DXWG F2F, are invited to come to the [https://goo.gl/maps/iUXYTomD97y "Tiflis" restaurant (Vico del Fico, 35/r)].

A reservation has been made for 7/8 people, at 7:30PM. The plan is  to gather at 7:15PM in Piazza De Ferrari, close to  The Doge's Palace  Entrance (In Italian: [https://goo.gl/maps/g2QrbBEW7nq Entrata di Palazzo Ducale]), which is an easy place to find, and then move to the restaurant together.

If you plan to come, please drop a mail asap to Riccardo, so he can adjust the reservation accordingly.

=Tuesday Evening Dinner=


Dinner at the [https://goo.gl/maps/CMmYSPaKkhn "La cabotina" restaurant (Vico della Loggia Spinola)]. 

A reservation has been made for 8 people, at 8:15 PM. 
This restaurant serves a quite wide range of typical Genoese dishes, most of the dishes are suitable for vegetarians.

The plan is to gather at 8:00 PM in Piazza De Ferrari, close to The Doge's Palace  Entrance (In Italian: [https://goo.gl/maps/g2QrbBEW7nq Entrata di Palazzo Ducale]), the same meeting point of Monday, and then move to the restaurant together.

=Annotations=

* [[Type:: F2F]]
* [[Subject:: DXWG F2F3 Meeting @ Genoa]]
* [[Date::2018-05-08]]
* [[Date::2018-05-09]]
* [[Minutes:: https://www.w3.org/2018/05/08-dxwg-minutes]]
* [[Minutes:: https://www.w3.org/2018/05/09-dxwg-minutes]]
* [[Scribe:: Various]]