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<scribe> scribe: Gottfried
Janina: any news?
(nobody)
Janina: Draft agenda may be
available in June. But make a hotel reservation now.
... We don't know how to get the W3C rate for the hotel.
... Will keep checking.
Janina: I have drafted comments.
Case: you don't want to be interrupted. I got no
comments.
... I would like to reference Ted's Github issue. More generic
use case. We need ways to tell to not push.
... I will put out a CfC for a formal decision of the
group.
Michael: Cleaning up Coga
publications. Talked with ARIA chairs on Monday.
... Trying to publish 3 COGA docs together. Focus on the
REC-doc, i.e. ARIA doc.
... My highest prio is on the cog support for WCAG.
Janina: No general problem with
prioritization. But COGA needs to deliver its docs as in the
charter. Should not stall them.
... We need to have these docs published and reviewed
Michael: Docs are very long - can we expect them to be thoroughly reviewed?
Janina: Maybe publish gap
analysis - without issues paper?
... There might be other organizations interested in this.
Michael: Gap analysis is the most
useful one. References the issue paper.
... We could publish as working draft.
... Danger of publishing a working draft as a note.
... But publishing a working draft without a note is a bad
idea.
Tzviya: Only a few people know
about this work. You might get interested from DC and other
accessibility organization that are focused on
publishing.
... What about the CSS task force? - Issue with personalization
semantics.
... Overwriting the layout with CSS semantics could cause
problems.
Janina: I have prepared a set of
invitations to this call next week. On the topic of mechanisms
for personalization on the Web.
... CSS, Media query, etc.
... I am going to send out some emails.
Tzviya: I can join. Can pass it on to others.
Gottfried: Possible for me to join.
Janina: What can we do with our
12-year old CAPTCHA paper? - Not ready yet.
... CSS task force had problems getting off the ground. May
need some nudge to get started.
action-2131
<trackbot> action-2131 -- Michael Cooper to Ask webappsec if csp is meant to block bookmarklets, and raise issue of a11y scripts that users explicitly request (not xss) -- due 2017-05-17 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2131
action-2129?
<trackbot> action-2129 -- Michael Cooper to Find publications that went straight to note without review opportunity -- due 2017-05-10 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2129
Michael: 54% of notes last year
were published without a review draft.
... Will send this in an email to the wg.
... There are some process changes needed.
action-2124?
<trackbot> action-2124 -- Janina Sajka to Follow up with johannes wilm on input events 1 and 2 wrt our comments on input events non-leveled -- due 2017-05-17 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2124
Janina: I am still waiting for Leonie
action-2119?
<trackbot> action-2119 -- Janina Sajka to Review html 5.2 https://www.w3.org/tr/html52/ -- due 2017-05-17 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2119
<MichaelC> close action-2119
<trackbot> Closed action-2119.
Janina: Found no problem. Let's close it.
Tzviya: Issue on ARIA details tag was closed by Charles. Should be fine now.
<MichaelC> Motion Sensors Explainer
Michael: We sometimes have a11y input on use cases. Do we want to deal with this?
Janina: Probably not - unless somebody has a particular use case.
Michael: (reading from the use case section)
Janina: No need to review
<MichaelC> Orientation Sensor
Michael: Guessing this is low-level, but nothing on the API level.
Janina: Yes, there could be a11y use cases.
Gottfried: This doc refers to the motion sensors explainer doc.
Michael: Cannot tell how
comprehensive this API is. But guessing we probably care more
about API uses than the API itself.
... We need to come up with a white paper about web of things,
device API, sensors etc.
Janina: We need to complain about API specs not explaining themselves.
Michael: Haven't made a formal complaint, only discussed this
<MichaelC> ACTION: cooper to make a fuss about algorithmic specs [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/05/17-apa-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2132 - Make a fuss about algorithmic specs [on Michael Cooper - due 2017-05-24].
Janina: Need to come back to
this.
... Need to pick up conversation with Ralf. Other groups are
impacted too.
... For us it is not only the problem of not being able to do
an a11y review, but also resulting in badly written specs.
Michael: We have 23 specs that
are marked "in active review".
... 19 have a review assigned.
Janina: We should get back to this in early June.
Michael: I was reading on content
security policy - looking for a11y issues - could not find out
in the spec. Talked with Ralf.
... Ralf said that we have to live with the preferred language
style of the editor. No resources to train editors or add
additional editors.
... I believe we can still address this by drafting best
practices to make editors aware of common problems.
... This will be an ongoing conversation with Ralf and the
architecture team.
Janina: Involve others? Internationalization?
Michael: Presentation of i18n on
how to review specs. They have similar processes, but different
tools.
... I will discuss with them.
Janina: Best practices policy manual should address this.
Michael: Not a simple path.
Janina: There is a wider
community that wants to look at an API and understand before
diving into.
... Should be a topic at the next TPAC on Wed.
Michael: We should gather other interested parties before TPAC.
Janina: Next call on
architectural directions on achieving meaningful
personalization. Folks from the wider APA community are
invited.
... I will send out the invitation.
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