W3C

Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

20 Feb 2014

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Addison, Richard, Mati, JohnK
Regrets
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
Addison Phillips

Contents


Agenda

Action Items

http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

action-149?

<trackbot> action-149 -- Norbert Lindenberg to Draft a proposal for adding time zone IDs to HTML5 -- due 2012-09-26 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/149

move to addison

close ACTION-286

<trackbot> Closed ACTION-286.

richard: one outstanding new issue though
... got spec changed to match hebrew implementations (thanks mati)
... but all of the japanese implementations are (consistently) out by one or two charactes
... change to match?
... rare characters at the end of hiragana, so all items out after 48
... same with iroha set

addison: ask people we know and report back

Info Share

richard: tests

<r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/tests/

richard: changing so we don't rely on w3c framework/server
... above link, now done
... click on tests. table on right has results
... don't go to test framework server any more
... link on left shows test in test runner
... and click on "score" you can score it
... and when done do "show results", copy to email and send to me
... watch inboxes for announcement about Unicode 7.0 coming soon

richard: Aolita Sharma to give keynote at ML workshop in May

RADAR

http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Review_radar

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2014JanMar/0022.html

1. Section 3.6 "Positioning Images", the keywords "left" and "right" are defined but not the direction independent "start" and "end" keywords.

2. Section 4. There are a number of border-left-* and border-right-* properties. (See above).

There is no mention of bidi other than a note about breaks in fragmented borders (section 7.1), so it's not clear how left/right interact with RTL.

richard: +1

<scribe> ACTION: addison: create comments on borders/backgrounds in tracker and forward to CSS WG [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/20-i18n-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-288 - Create comments on borders/backgrounds in tracker and forward to css wg [on Addison Phillips - due 2014-02-27].

richard: the containing element would determine start/end, that is, the outer element, not the styled element

<matial> agree

HTML5 caseless matching

https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/CaseForCaselessHTML

addison: focused on fragments

http://www.inter-locale.com/test/html-caseless-test.html#GR%C3%BCN

richard: bug is about three things
... 1. radio buttons (which is a different and probably less interesting case: do case sensitive?)
... 2. fragment identifiers
... 3. should fragments be case sensitive at all
... same rule for @id as for radio button names

<input name=match> and <input name=MATCH>

addison: split off radio buttons

richard: can't predict how typed
... looser than codepoint by codepoint?
... but not compatibility decompositions

john: agree that compatibility decomposition should be discouraged

<scribe> ACTION: addison: split off radio button comment and update bug 16970 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/20-i18n-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-289 - Split off radio button comment and update bug 16970 [on Addison Phillips - due 2014-02-27].

agenda

HTML5 review

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2014JanMar/0024.html

addison: suggest that you review all "suggest close" items

I18N-ISSUE-78: tracker confused and not actually fixed

<trackbot> Notes added to I18N-ISSUE-78 Spellchecking in editors and sc services.

richard: some still pending until rb is actually in the spec (need implementations)

ISSUE-30: allow 'utf-16' in charset declarations. wontfix. Last commenter suggested we reopen.

<trackbot> Notes added to ISSUE-30 Allow utf-16 meta encoding declarations.

ISSUE-84: BCE month representation. Wontfix. Consider in WG.

<trackbot> Notes added to ISSUE-84 Representing BCE months.

addison: only goes back to january 1 AD in gregorian
... was pre-gregorian

addison; be satisfied?

jck: retitle and document for the future

ISSUE-87: leap seconds not allowed. Wontfix. Consider in WG.

<trackbot> Notes added to ISSUE-87 Leap seconds.

addison: better for people who are customers of this to raise it than for us to be their proxhy

ISSUE-123?

<trackbot> ISSUE-123 -- Insertion of U+202C -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/123

<matial> Suggestion for issue-123: any end tag for a run of phrasing content must be treated as if as many U+202C had been inserted at that point as needed for closing open embeddings and overrides.

AOB?

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: addison: create comments on borders/backgrounds in tracker and forward to CSS WG [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/20-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: addison: split off radio button comment and update bug 16970 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/20-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
 
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