Congratulations to the group, all our specifications have now been published.
Provenance Working Group End Date
The group agreed to terminate the activities of the PROV working group on May 17th.
prov-family.provn will be finalized next week (luc) and the other representations will be cleaned up/checked by Paul, Tim, and Stephan.
Paul will produce a first version of the landing page for the group to review.
A few minor edits will be made on the wiki by the chairs.
The FAQ needs some serious reorganization and clean up. Paul or Graham should look at the PAQ related entries, and remove/complete the todos. Help needed by other group members.
Keep on announcing our documents. Further blogs are planned to be posted.
14:56:00 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/05/02-prov-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/05/02-prov-irc ←
14:56:02 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs world ←
14:56:04 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be PROV
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be PROV ←
14:56:04 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(PROV)11:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot; I see SW_(PROV)11:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes ←
14:56:05 <Luc> Zakim, this will be PROV
Luc Moreau: Zakim, this will be PROV ←
14:56:05 <trackbot> Meeting: Provenance Working Group Teleconference
14:56:05 <trackbot> Date: 02 May 2013
14:56:06 <Zakim> ok, Luc; I see SW_(PROV)11:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, Luc; I see SW_(PROV)11:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes ←
14:56:22 <Luc> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2013.05.02
14:56:48 <Luc> Chair: Luc Moreau
14:56:59 <Luc> Regrets: Curt Tilmes
14:57:09 <Luc> rrsagent, make logs public
Luc Moreau: rrsagent, make logs public ←
14:57:14 <Luc> zakim, who is here?
Luc Moreau: zakim, who is here? ←
14:57:14 <Zakim> SW_(PROV)11:00AM has not yet started, Luc
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_(PROV)11:00AM has not yet started, Luc ←
14:57:15 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Luc, pgroth, ivan, TallTed, stain, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see RRSAgent, Luc, pgroth, ivan, TallTed, stain, trackbot ←
14:57:52 <Zakim> SW_(PROV)11:00AM has now started
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_(PROV)11:00AM has now started ←
14:57:59 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
14:58:09 <pgroth> Zakim, [IPcaller] is me
Paul Groth: Zakim, [IPcaller] is me ←
14:58:09 <Zakim> +pgroth; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +pgroth; got it ←
14:59:36 <Zakim> +Luc
Zakim IRC Bot: +Luc ←
14:59:48 <Zakim> +tlebo
Zakim IRC Bot: +tlebo ←
15:00:08 <Luc> hello, anybody willing to scribe?
Luc Moreau: hello, anybody willing to scribe? ←
15:00:11 <Zakim> +??P39
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P39 ←
15:00:21 <smiles> zakim, ??P39 is me
Simon Miles: zakim, ??P39 is me ←
15:00:21 <Zakim> +smiles; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +smiles; got it ←
15:00:25 <tlebo> Sorry, @luc, I can only stay for 30 minutes
Timothy Lebo: Sorry, @luc, I can only stay for 30 minutes ←
15:00:28 <smiles> I can scribe
Simon Miles: I can scribe ←
15:00:35 <TallTed> TallTed has changed the topic to: Provenance WG -- http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/ -- agenda http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2013.05.02
Ted Thibodeau: TallTed has changed the topic to: Provenance WG -- http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/ -- agenda http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2013.05.02 ←
15:00:41 <Luc> thanks Simon
Luc Moreau: thanks Simon ←
15:00:42 <ivan> zakim, code?
Ivan Herman: zakim, code? ←
15:00:43 <Zakim> the conference code is 7768 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 7768 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), ivan ←
15:00:48 <Luc> everything is set up
Luc Moreau: everything is set up ←
15:00:51 <Luc> scribe: smiles
(Scribe set to Simon Miles)
15:00:52 <smiles> ok, thanks
ok, thanks ←
15:01:01 <Zakim> +[OpenLink]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[OpenLink] ←
15:01:11 <TallTed> Zakim, [OpenLink] is OpenLink_Software
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, [OpenLink] is OpenLink_Software ←
15:01:11 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +OpenLink_Software; got it ←
15:01:13 <Luc> topic: Admin
15:01:18 <TallTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me ←
15:01:19 <Zakim> +TallTed; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +TallTed; got it ←
15:01:20 <TallTed> Zakim, mute me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, mute me ←
15:01:20 <Zakim> TallTed should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: TallTed should now be muted ←
15:01:26 <Zakim> +Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: +Ivan ←
15:02:27 <Zakim> +jcheney
Zakim IRC Bot: +jcheney ←
15:02:35 <Luc> PROPOSED: to accept Minutes of April 25, 2013 Telcon
PROPOSED: to accept Minutes of April 25, 2013 Telcon ←
15:02:43 <Luc> https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/prov/2013-04-25
Luc Moreau: https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/prov/2013-04-25 ←
15:02:48 <Zakim> + +1.818.731.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.818.731.aaaa ←
15:02:59 <ivan> +1
Ivan Herman: +1 ←
15:03:00 <smiles> +1
+1 ←
15:03:03 <tlebo> +1
Timothy Lebo: +1 ←
15:03:04 <jcheney> +1
James Cheney: +1 ←
15:03:19 <Luc> ACCEPTED: Minutes of April 25, 2013 Telcon
RESOLVED: Minutes of April 25, 2013 Telcon ←
15:03:26 <Luc> Topic: congratulations
Summary: Congratulations to the group, all our specifications have now been published.
<luc>Summary: Congratulations to the group, all our specifications have now been published.
15:03:30 <pgroth> YEAH!!!
Paul Groth: YEAH!!! ←
15:03:40 <smiles> Luc: Congratulations on all the documents being published on Tuesday!
Luc Moreau: Congratulations on all the documents being published on Tuesday! ←
15:03:57 <tlebo> :-)
Timothy Lebo: :-) ←
15:04:04 <pgroth> hey luc - how long was it?
Paul Groth: hey luc - how long was it? ←
15:04:13 <ivan> clap clap clap clap
Ivan Herman: clap clap clap clap ←
15:04:20 <Zakim> +TomDN
Zakim IRC Bot: +TomDN ←
15:04:31 <TomDN> congrats everyone :)
Tom De Nies: congrats everyone :) ←
15:04:34 <pgroth> 2 years on the nose
Paul Groth: 2 years on the nose ←
15:04:34 <smiles> Luc: Last Sunday was the second anniversary of the WG
Luc Moreau: Last Sunday was the second anniversary of the WG ←
15:04:34 <TomDN> Zakim, mute me
Tom De Nies: Zakim, mute me ←
15:04:34 <Zakim> TomDN should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: TomDN should now be muted ←
15:04:39 <tlebo> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/meeting/2011-04-28
Timothy Lebo: http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/meeting/2011-04-28 ←
15:05:00 <Luc> q?
Luc Moreau: q? ←
15:05:03 <smiles> Luc: Any comment on this news?
Luc Moreau: Any comment on this news? ←
15:05:08 <pgroth> q+
Paul Groth: q+ ←
15:05:10 <TomDN> (Sam send his regards and congratulations, he is abroad at the moment)
Tom De Nies: (Sam send his regards and congratulations, he is abroad at the moment) ←
15:05:11 <smiles> Just well done!
Just well done! ←
15:05:15 <pgroth> ack pgroth
Paul Groth: ack pgroth ←
15:05:16 <Luc> Topic: Provenance Working Group End Date
Summary: The group agreed to terminate the activities of the PROV working group on May 17th.
<luc>Summary: The group agreed to terminate the activities of the PROV working group on May 17th.
15:05:21 <pgroth> later
Paul Groth: later ←
15:05:24 <Zakim> - +1.818.731.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.818.731.aaaa ←
15:05:57 <smiles> Luc: When are we going to close the WG? Last week, we said 2 to 3 weeks to complete remaining tasks
Luc Moreau: When are we going to close the WG? Last week, we said 2 to 3 weeks to complete remaining tasks ←
15:06:17 <smiles> ... Proposal to terminate on May 17th, after last telecon on 16th
... Proposal to terminate on May 17th, after last telecon on 16th ←
15:06:18 <Luc> q?
Luc Moreau: q? ←
15:06:24 <pgroth> q+
Paul Groth: q+ ←
15:06:35 <Zakim> + +1.818.731.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.818.731.aabb ←
15:06:55 <smiles> pgroth: Do we need more telecons?
Paul Groth: Do we need more telecons? ←
15:07:20 <Luc> ack pg
Luc Moreau: ack pg ←
15:07:26 <tlebo> If you want stuff from me, you should have me in a telecon...
Timothy Lebo: If you want stuff from me, you should have me in a telecon... ←
15:07:29 <smiles> ... Will discuss with Luc after this call whether more are needed
... Will discuss with Luc after this call whether more are needed ←
15:07:44 <tlebo> +1
Timothy Lebo: +1 ←
15:07:58 <Luc> PROPOSED: to terminate the activities of the Provenance Working Group on May 17, 2013
PROPOSED: to terminate the activities of the Provenance Working Group on May 17, 2013 ←
15:08:03 <ivan> +1
Ivan Herman: +1 ←
15:08:03 <ivan> +1
Ivan Herman: +1 ←
15:08:03 <smiles> +1
+1 ←
15:08:04 <pgroth> +1
Paul Groth: +1 ←
15:08:07 <Dong> +1
Trung Huynh: +1 ←
15:08:07 <TomDN> +1
Tom De Nies: +1 ←
15:08:07 <TallTed> +1
Ted Thibodeau: +1 ←
15:08:08 <tlebo> +1
Timothy Lebo: +1 ←
15:08:19 <Luc> ACCEPTED: to terminate the activities of the Provenance Working Group on May 17, 2013
RESOLVED: to terminate the activities of the Provenance Working Group on May 17, 2013 ←
15:08:21 <jcheney_> +1
James Cheney: +1 ←
15:08:23 <hook> +1
15:08:39 <pgroth> :-)
Paul Groth: :-) ←
15:08:42 <pgroth> invalidation!
Paul Groth: invalidation! ←
15:08:46 <tlebo> invalidation!
Timothy Lebo: invalidation! ←
15:08:47 <smiles> Luc: Can now complete provenance of PROV family with invalidation on 17 May
Luc Moreau: Can now complete provenance of PROV family with invalidation on 17 May ←
15:08:48 <Luc> q?
Luc Moreau: q? ←
15:08:53 <pgroth> never thought that would be useful… :-)
Paul Groth: never thought that would be useful… :-) ←
15:08:59 <smiles> Luc: Any comment on this?
Luc Moreau: Any comment on this? ←
15:09:02 <Luc> topic: provenance of documents
Summary: prov-family.provn will be finalized next week (luc) and the other representations will be cleaned up/checked by Paul, Tim, and Stephan.
<Luc>Summary: prov-family.provn will be finalized next week (luc) and the other representations will be cleaned up/checked by Paul, Tim, and Stephan.
15:09:11 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
15:09:30 <smiles> Luc: Now have reasonable files edited last week, need to be finalised
Luc Moreau: Now have reasonable files edited last week, need to be finalised ←
15:09:49 <stain> Hm, but the 17th of May is my country's national day! It's going to be both a sad and happy day for me!
Stian Soiland-Reyes: Hm, but the 17th of May is my country's national day! It's going to be both a sad and happy day for me! ←
15:10:00 <smiles> ... Will add end of WG, and make a couple of corrections in the use of roles
... Will add end of WG, and make a couple of corrections in the use of roles ←
15:10:14 <pgroth> @stain - you can join another wg? :-)
Paul Groth: @stain - you can join another wg? :-) ←
15:10:19 <Luc> q?
Luc Moreau: q? ←
15:10:30 <smiles> ... Once finalised, it would be good to have someone look at the Turtle, someone at the XML
... Once finalised, it would be good to have someone look at the Turtle, someone at the XML ←
15:10:42 <pgroth> I can do the turtle if tlebo helps
Paul Groth: I can do the turtle if tlebo helps ←
15:10:46 <smiles> zednik: I can look at the XML
Stephan Zednik: I can look at the XML ←
15:11:06 <tlebo> I already looked at the TTL. I can take another look at the attribution.
Timothy Lebo: I already looked at the TTL. I can take another look at the attribution. ←
15:11:46 <smiles> Luc: A number of comments in the PROV-N are lost in the translation
Luc Moreau: A number of comments in the PROV-N are lost in the translation ←
15:12:01 <smiles> ... and the translations have different chronological order
... and the translations have different chronological order ←
15:12:15 <smiles> pgroth: Do not need to be exactly the same, but will look at them
Paul Groth: Do not need to be exactly the same, but will look at them ←
15:12:33 <stain> should the comments be made into something like rdfs:comment?
Stian Soiland-Reyes: should the comments be made into something like rdfs:comment? ←
15:12:39 <smiles> Luc: Aim to finalise by Mon/Tue next week, then pgroth and zednik to edit
Luc Moreau: Aim to finalise by Mon/Tue next week, then pgroth and zednik to edit ←
15:12:43 <Luc> q?
Luc Moreau: q? ←
15:12:43 <Zakim> + +44.442.380.55.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: + +44.442.380.55.aacc ←
15:12:54 <Luc> topic: Finalizing /ns
Summary: Paul will produce a first version of the landing page for the group to review.
<luc>Summary: Paul will produce a first version of the landing page for the group to review.
15:13:28 <smiles> Luc: We have all the schema files, but don't know if they need editing
Luc Moreau: We have all the schema files, but don't know if they need editing ←
15:14:08 <smiles> pgroth: For the HTML file, I need to redo the dummy version; the overview is up to date but just a placeholder
Paul Groth: For the HTML file, I need to redo the dummy version; the overview is up to date but just a placeholder ←
15:14:19 <smiles> Luc: When will there be an HTML file we can look at?
Luc Moreau: When will there be an HTML file we can look at? ←
15:14:34 <tlebo> Everything is concatenated at https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/file/tip/namespace/releases/prov-20130430
Timothy Lebo: Everything is concatenated at https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/file/tip/namespace/releases/prov-20130430 ←
15:14:35 <smiles> pgroth: Will work on it Sunday/Monday, for review mid-next week
Paul Groth: Will work on it Sunday/Monday, for review mid-next week ←
15:15:00 <smiles> Luc: Do they need any further curation?
Luc Moreau: Do they need any further curation? ←
15:15:50 <smiles> tlebo: No plans to do anything else, though having problems loading into Protege
Timothy Lebo: No plans to do anything else, though having problems loading into Protege ←
15:15:59 <tlebo> "# The following was imported from http://www.w3.org/ns/prov-o#"
Timothy Lebo: "# The following was imported from http://www.w3.org/ns/prov-o#" ←
15:16:15 <smiles> ... Added string above between each of concatenated files
... Added string above between each of concatenated files ←
15:16:16 <tlebo> prov\:wasDerivedFrom <http://www.w3.org/ns/prov-aq#>, <http://www.w3.org/ns/prov-dc#>, <http://www
Timothy Lebo: prov\:wasDerivedFrom <http://www.w3.org/ns/prov-aq#>, <http://www.w3.org/ns/prov-dc#>, <http://www ←
15:16:29 <pgroth> yes
Paul Groth: yes ←
15:16:42 <smiles> ... Along with assertion above, this should be everything wanted
... Along with assertion above, this should be everything wanted ←
15:16:47 <pgroth> i think I also define things again in prov-aq
Paul Groth: i think I also define things again in prov-aq ←
15:17:10 <smiles> Luc: When will you hand over to Stian to look at?
Luc Moreau: When will you hand over to Stian to look at? ←
15:17:23 <smiles> tlebo: Just sent out email to WG during this meeting
Timothy Lebo: Just sent out email to WG during this meeting ←
15:17:44 <smiles> Luc: No further editing expected?
Luc Moreau: No further editing expected? ←
15:17:51 <smiles> tlebo: No
Timothy Lebo: No ←
15:18:35 <pgroth> xsd file
Paul Groth: xsd file ←
15:18:38 <pgroth> xsd files
Paul Groth: xsd files ←
15:18:58 <pgroth> q+
Paul Groth: q+ ←
15:19:00 <smiles> zednik: For the XSD files, there is no intention to change them further
Stephan Zednik: For the XSD files, there is no intention to change them further ←
15:19:32 <zednik> @pgroth thanks, I was confused :-)
Stephan Zednik: @pgroth thanks, I was confused :-) ←
15:19:36 <smiles> Luc: For the OWL files, small issue, XSD are fine, and HTML files ready mid next week, so well on track to complete
Luc Moreau: For the OWL files, small issue, XSD are fine, and HTML files ready mid next week, so well on track to complete ←
15:19:51 <tlebo> q+
Timothy Lebo: q+ ←
15:19:54 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
15:19:59 <pgroth> ack pgroth
Paul Groth: ack pgroth ←
15:20:00 <smiles> pgroth: Do we also want to put the PROV-N grammar there?
Paul Groth: Do we also want to put the PROV-N grammar there? ←
15:20:02 <pgroth> we don't have to
Paul Groth: we don't have to ←
15:20:28 <Zakim> +Satya_Sahoo
Zakim IRC Bot: +Satya_Sahoo ←
15:20:35 <smiles> Luc: The grammar is linked from the PROV-N document, as it is already completely inside the document and just convenient standalone file
Luc Moreau: The grammar is linked from the PROV-N document, as it is already completely inside the document and just convenient standalone file ←
15:20:50 <smiles> ... Could put in /ns but not sure what MIME type it would be
... Could put in /ns but not sure what MIME type it would be ←
15:20:55 <pgroth> ok no prov-n
Paul Groth: ok no prov-n ←
15:21:13 <Luc> ack pg
Luc Moreau: ack pg ←
15:21:15 <smiles> ivan: If it does not have a media type, then can't do it
Ivan Herman: If it does not have a media type, then can't do it ←
15:21:17 <tlebo> I only got feedback from Paul on the ns concatenation -- nothing from editors. Shall I assume that they are happy with its result?
Timothy Lebo: I only got feedback from Paul on the ns concatenation -- nothing from editors. Shall I assume that they are happy with its result? ←
15:21:26 <pgroth> ack tlebo
Paul Groth: ack tlebo ←
15:21:31 <pgroth> ack ivan
Paul Groth: ack ivan ←
15:21:55 <smiles> tlebo: Only feedback from Paul on namespace concatentation, but concerns multiple notes (DC, AQ...) , so would like to know editors are happy with it
Timothy Lebo: Only feedback from Paul on namespace concatentation, but concerns multiple notes (DC, AQ...) , so would like to know editors are happy with it ←
15:22:03 <pgroth> well I did it for aq
Paul Groth: well I did it for aq ←
15:22:05 <Luc> ack tle
Luc Moreau: ack tle ←
15:22:18 <pgroth> i took him off the queue
Paul Groth: i took him off the queue ←
15:22:21 <pgroth> :-)
Paul Groth: :-) ←
15:22:35 <tlebo> thanks, @ivan :-)
Timothy Lebo: thanks, @ivan :-) ←
15:22:58 <pgroth> the only thing left is html
Paul Groth: the only thing left is html ←
15:23:09 <smiles> ivan: Can Luc or Paul tell me when all files are ready, not having many requests over the day
Ivan Herman: Can Luc or Paul tell me when all files are ready, not having many requests over the day ←
15:23:24 <pgroth> but we can do it in bulk
Paul Groth: but we can do it in bulk ←
15:23:34 <pgroth> when I do it when the html
Paul Groth: when I do it when the html ←
15:23:37 <tlebo> FWIW, there is https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/file/ec6859fefebf/namespace/bin/test-w3org.sh to make sure we have it right...
Timothy Lebo: FWIW, there is https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/file/ec6859fefebf/namespace/bin/test-w3org.sh to make sure we have it right... ←
15:23:41 <smiles> Luc: Yes, there will be multiple edits, and once these are done we can send a single requests for all
Luc Moreau: Yes, there will be multiple edits, and once these are done we can send a single requests for all ←
15:24:42 <Luc> q?
Luc Moreau: q? ←
15:26:30 <pgroth> you need to run it from the namespace directory
Paul Groth: you need to run it from the namespace directory ←
15:26:32 <pgroth> not in bin
Paul Groth: not in bin ←
15:26:44 <Luc> Topic: Wikis
Summary: A few minor edits will be made on the wiki by the chairs.
<luc>Summary: A few minor edits will be made on the wiki by the chairs.
15:27:12 <smiles> Luc: We have tidied up the front page of the PROV Wiki
Luc Moreau: We have tidied up the front page of the PROV Wiki ←
15:27:33 <smiles> ... A few more things to do on closure of the WG, but can do offline
... A few more things to do on closure of the WG, but can do offline ←
15:27:54 <smiles> pgroth: We need to copy some outreach and new information over, other than that its fine
Paul Groth: We need to copy some outreach and new information over, other than that its fine ←
15:28:16 <smiles> Luc: By copy, we mean copy to SW Wiki and put link from PROV Wiki
Luc Moreau: By copy, we mean copy to SW Wiki and put link from PROV Wiki ←
15:28:30 <ivan> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/PROV
Ivan Herman: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/PROV ←
15:28:56 <smiles> ivan: I updated above page yesterday, uses Semantic MediaWiki tricks listing tools relating to provenance
Ivan Herman: I updated above page yesterday, uses Semantic MediaWiki tricks listing tools relating to provenance ←
15:28:57 <ivan> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/Tools
Ivan Herman: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/Tools ←
15:29:24 <ivan> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/R2RML_Parser example
Ivan Herman: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/R2RML_Parser example ←
15:29:38 <smiles> ... Currently it is empty, but if add to above Tools page would automatically appear elsewhere on Wiki
... Currently it is empty, but if add to above Tools page would automatically appear elsewhere on Wiki ←
15:29:52 <smiles> ... See the R2RML example above
... See the R2RML example above ←
15:30:08 <pgroth> can we not copy our implementation report
Paul Groth: can we not copy our implementation report ←
15:30:08 <tlebo> q+ confused
Timothy Lebo: q+ confused ←
15:30:09 <pgroth> ?
Paul Groth: ? ←
15:30:15 <smiles> ... If there are tools from the CR phase, would be good to add
... If there are tools from the CR phase, would be good to add ←
15:30:55 <pgroth> q+ to ask about this in bulk
Paul Groth: q+ to ask about this in bulk ←
15:31:14 <smiles> ivan: List technologies your tool is relevant for (PROV), and for category put category as on Tool page
Ivan Herman: List technologies your tool is relevant for (PROV), and for category put category as on Tool page ←
15:31:17 <ivan> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/Category:Tool
Ivan Herman: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/Category:Tool ←
15:31:49 <pgroth> per technology
Paul Groth: per technology ←
15:32:17 <pgroth> q+
Paul Groth: q+ ←
15:32:23 <pgroth> raises hand
Paul Groth: raises hand ←
15:32:29 <smiles> Luc: Will send an action to all to add tools
Luc Moreau: Will send an action to all to add tools ←
15:32:31 <Luc> ack con
Luc Moreau: ack con ←
15:33:00 <smiles> pgroth: We have a implementation report, should we convert?
Paul Groth: We have a implementation report, should we convert? ←
15:33:16 <Luc> ack pg
Luc Moreau: ack pg ←
15:33:16 <Zakim> pgroth, you wanted to ask about this in bulk and to and to
Zakim IRC Bot: pgroth, you wanted to ask about this in bulk and to and to ←
15:33:17 <smiles> ivan: No, other people should do it themselves where they want the tools publicised
Ivan Herman: No, other people should do it themselves where they want the tools publicised ←
15:33:48 <tlebo> @paul add a link to the implementation report
Timothy Lebo: @paul add a link to the implementation report ←
15:33:51 <smiles> pgroth: Would like to give (correct) impression that we have a lot of tools, but Wiki will be spartan
Paul Groth: Would like to give (correct) impression that we have a lot of tools, but Wiki will be spartan ←
15:33:54 <pgroth> yeah
Paul Groth: yeah ←
15:33:55 <Luc> +1
Luc Moreau: +1 ←
15:34:18 <tlebo> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/PROV#All_relevant_tools
Timothy Lebo: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/PROV#All_relevant_tools ←
15:34:21 <smiles> Luc: Tim's suggestion of a link to the implementation report is good
Luc Moreau: Tim's suggestion of a link to the implementation report is good ←
15:34:23 <pgroth> in big bold letters
Paul Groth: in big bold letters ←
15:35:11 <tlebo> http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/NOTE-prov-implementations-20130430/
Timothy Lebo: http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/NOTE-prov-implementations-20130430/ ←
15:35:26 <TomDN> or http://www.w3.org/TR/prov-implementations/
Tom De Nies: or http://www.w3.org/TR/prov-implementations/ ←
15:35:37 <smiles> ivan: Have to make clear it was status of implementation as of now, will be irrelevant late
Ivan Herman: Have to make clear it was status of implementation as of now, will be irrelevant late ←
15:35:48 <tlebo> w00t http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/PROV
Timothy Lebo: w00t http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/PROV ←
15:37:33 <smiles> ivan: Could add something more on SW Wiki main PROV page to make more self-explanatory, today would be nice; can add sub-pages to help keep up community; etc.
Ivan Herman: Could add something more on SW Wiki main PROV page to make more self-explanatory, today would be nice; can add sub-pages to help keep up community; etc. ←
15:37:41 <tlebo> :-)
Timothy Lebo: :-) ←
15:37:45 <Luc> q?
Luc Moreau: q? ←
15:37:57 <tlebo> q+
Timothy Lebo: q+ ←
15:38:00 <TomDN> Were we going to make the FAQ editable after the closing as well?
Tom De Nies: Were we going to make the FAQ editable after the closing as well? ←
15:38:07 <pgroth> i'll do some updating
Paul Groth: i'll do some updating ←
15:38:16 <Luc> Topic: FAQ
Summary: The FAQ needs some serious reorganization and clean up. Paul or Graham should look at the PAQ related entries, and remove/complete the todos. Help needed by other group members.
<Luc>Summary: The FAQ needs some serious reorganization and clean up. Paul or Graham should look at the PAQ related entries, and remove/complete the todos. Help needed by other group members.
15:38:23 <pgroth> q+
Paul Groth: q+ ←
15:38:27 <pgroth> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/PROV-FAQ
Paul Groth: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/PROV-FAQ ←
15:38:31 <TomDN> (nevermind :) )
Tom De Nies: (nevermind :) ) ←
15:38:47 <smiles> Luc: Is the FAQ finished?
Luc Moreau: Is the FAQ finished? ←
15:38:56 <tlebo> q-
Timothy Lebo: q- ←
15:39:01 <Luc> q?
Luc Moreau: q? ←
15:39:23 <tlebo> q+ to point out that you need to "no-op edit" http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/PROV to get it to refresh the listing of tools.
Timothy Lebo: q+ to point out that you need to "no-op edit" http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/PROV to get it to refresh the listing of tools. ←
15:39:24 <smiles> pgroth: It needs to be cleaned up, some sections are a bit overloaded
Paul Groth: It needs to be cleaned up, some sections are a bit overloaded ←
15:39:47 <Luc> ack pg
Luc Moreau: ack pg ←
15:39:54 <tlebo> @ivan, "All relevant tools" is a bit closed-world for a SW wiki...
Timothy Lebo: @ivan, "All relevant tools" is a bit closed-world for a SW wiki... ←
15:40:20 <Luc> ack tl
Luc Moreau: ack tl ←
15:40:20 <Zakim> tlebo, you wanted to point out that you need to "no-op edit" http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/PROV to get it to refresh the listing of tools.
Zakim IRC Bot: tlebo, you wanted to point out that you need to "no-op edit" http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/PROV to get it to refresh the listing of tools. ←
15:40:32 <smiles> tlebo: Just to mention, when you add your tool to the SW Wiki, need to refresh (edit and save) PROV page for tool to be included
Timothy Lebo: Just to mention, when you add your tool to the SW Wiki, need to refresh (edit and save) PROV page for tool to be included ←
15:40:36 <pgroth> yes
Paul Groth: yes ←
15:40:43 <Luc> q?
Luc Moreau: q? ←
15:41:34 <smiles> Luc: There are to-dos for Tim, under PAQ, and regarding JAXB; are authors planning to complete?
Luc Moreau: There are to-dos for Tim, under PAQ, and regarding JAXB; are authors planning to complete? ←
15:41:40 <pgroth> q+
Paul Groth: q+ ←
15:41:45 <Luc> ack pg
Luc Moreau: ack pg ←
15:42:12 <Luc> q?
Luc Moreau: q? ←
15:42:14 <smiles> pgroth: To-dos from PAQ are just dumped there, so I or Graham need to clean up
Paul Groth: To-dos from PAQ are just dumped there, so I or Graham need to clean up ←
15:42:24 <pgroth> yes
Paul Groth: yes ←
15:42:27 <Luc> q?
Luc Moreau: q? ←
15:42:33 <smiles> Luc: If no-one can complete the tasks, then remove to-dos
Luc Moreau: If no-one can complete the tasks, then remove to-dos ←
15:42:38 <Luc> Topic: Dissemination/Announcement
Summary: Keep on announcing our documents. Further blogs are planned to be posted.
<Luc>Summary: Keep on announcing our documents. Further blogs are planned to be posted.
15:42:53 <ivan> For the records: interview with Luc and Paul: http://www.w3.org/QA/2013/04/interview_paul_groth_and_luc_m.html
Ivan Herman: For the records: interview with Luc and Paul: http://www.w3.org/QA/2013/04/interview_paul_groth_and_luc_m.html ←
15:42:54 <Luc> q?
Luc Moreau: q? ←
15:42:58 <pgroth> Q=
Paul Groth: Q= ←
15:43:00 <pgroth> q+
Paul Groth: q+ ←
15:43:03 <smiles> Luc: Planning write blog entry on PROV family of documents next week
Luc Moreau: Planning write blog entry on PROV family of documents next week ←
15:43:23 <smiles> pgroth: Will do summary/close blog post
Paul Groth: Will do summary/close blog post ←
15:43:26 <tlebo> I addressed http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/PROV-FAQ#Why_doesn.27t_PROV_use_FOAF.3F by deferring to the general design approach.
Timothy Lebo: I addressed http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/PROV-FAQ#Why_doesn.27t_PROV_use_FOAF.3F by deferring to the general design approach. ←
15:43:58 <Luc> ack pg
Luc Moreau: ack pg ←
15:44:17 <smiles> pgroth: Anything sent to W3C mailing lists?
Paul Groth: Anything sent to W3C mailing lists? ←
15:44:35 <Luc> q?
Luc Moreau: q? ←
15:44:37 <smiles> ivan: Put on Twitter and Google+, but probably worth also sending to mailing list
Ivan Herman: Put on Twitter and Google+, but probably worth also sending to mailing list ←
15:44:45 <smiles> pgroth: Will do that
Paul Groth: Will do that ←
15:44:47 <Luc> q?
Luc Moreau: q? ←
15:45:15 <Luc> q?
Luc Moreau: q? ←
15:45:18 <pgroth> yes
Paul Groth: yes ←
15:45:32 <pgroth> yes
Paul Groth: yes ←
15:45:49 <pgroth> well probably the week before
Paul Groth: well probably the week before ←
15:46:16 <smiles> Luc: Probably not a call next week, but will confirm this by email; probably will be a call before closing, TBC
Luc Moreau: Probably not a call next week, but will confirm this by email; probably will be a call before closing, TBC ←
15:46:24 <TomDN> Zakim, unmute me
Tom De Nies: Zakim, unmute me ←
15:46:24 <Zakim> TomDN should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: TomDN should no longer be muted ←
15:46:25 <pgroth> bye
Paul Groth: bye ←
15:46:25 <Zakim> -tlebo
Zakim IRC Bot: -tlebo ←
15:46:27 <pgroth> and congrats
Paul Groth: and congrats ←
15:46:27 <Zakim> -Satya_Sahoo
Zakim IRC Bot: -Satya_Sahoo ←
15:46:27 <Dong> bye all
Trung Huynh: bye all ←
15:46:28 <smiles> OK thanks!
OK thanks! ←
15:46:28 <Zakim> -jcheney
Zakim IRC Bot: -jcheney ←
15:46:29 <Zakim> -Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: -Ivan ←
15:46:31 <Zakim> -Luc
Zakim IRC Bot: -Luc ←
15:46:32 <pgroth> if we don't talk again
Paul Groth: if we don't talk again ←
15:46:33 <Zakim> -TallTed
Zakim IRC Bot: -TallTed ←
15:46:33 <Zakim> -TomDN
Zakim IRC Bot: -TomDN ←
15:46:34 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller] ←
15:46:36 <Zakim> -pgroth
Zakim IRC Bot: -pgroth ←
15:46:38 <Zakim> - +1.818.731.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.818.731.aabb ←
15:46:50 <Zakim> -smiles
Zakim IRC Bot: -smiles ←
15:49:52 <Zakim> - +44.442.380.55.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: - +44.442.380.55.aacc ←
15:49:54 <Zakim> SW_(PROV)11:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_(PROV)11:00AM has ended ←
15:49:54 <Zakim> Attendees were pgroth, Luc, tlebo, smiles, TallTed, Ivan, jcheney, +1.818.731.aaaa, TomDN, +1.818.731.aabb, [IPcaller], +44.442.380.55.aacc, Satya_Sahoo
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were pgroth, Luc, tlebo, smiles, TallTed, Ivan, jcheney, +1.818.731.aaaa, TomDN, +1.818.731.aabb, [IPcaller], +44.442.380.55.aacc, Satya_Sahoo ←
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