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Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 10 September 2012

Seen
Arnaud Le Hors, Ashok Malhotra, Erik Wilde, Gavin Carothers, Henry Story, Jacek Kopecky, John Arwe, Kalpa Gunaratna, Karl ???, Kevin Page, Michael Hausenblas, Olivier Berger, Raúl García Castro, Reza B'Far, Roger Menday, Sandro Hawke, Steve Speicher, Ted Thibodeau, Yrjana Rankka, Yves Lafon
Guests
Karl ???
Chair
Arnaud Le Hors
Scribe
Michael Hausenblas
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. Both meeting minutes have been approved by the WG link
  2. to move submission to working draft link
  3. WG resolves that the FPWD should be published before TPAC link
  4. The WG decides to use RDF Turtle as the minimum serialization format link
Topics
<Arnaud> Guest: Karl ???
13:59:36 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-irc

RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-irc ←

13:59:38 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public

Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs public ←

13:59:40 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be LDP

Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be LDP ←

13:59:41 <trackbot> Meeting: Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference
13:59:41 <trackbot> Date: 10 September 2012
14:00:16 <mhausenblas> Zakim, this will be LDP

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, this will be LDP ←

14:00:20 <Zakim> ok, mhausenblas, I see SW_LDP()10:00AM already started

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, mhausenblas, I see SW_LDP()10:00AM already started ←

14:00:37 <Zakim> +Arnaud

Zakim IRC Bot: +Arnaud ←

14:00:51 <Zakim> + +1.510.206.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.510.206.aabb ←

14:00:55 <JohnArwe> zakim, who is on the phone?

John Arwe: zakim, who is on the phone? ←

14:00:55 <Zakim> On the phone I see [IBM], +1.845.433.aaaa, Arnaud, +1.510.206.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see [IBM], +1.845.433.aaaa, Arnaud, +1.510.206.aabb ←

14:00:57 <SteveS> zakim, [IBM] is me

Steve Speicher: zakim, [IBM] is me ←

14:00:57 <Zakim> +SteveS; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +SteveS; got it ←

14:01:02 <JohnArwe> zakim, aaaa is me

John Arwe: zakim, aaaa is me ←

14:01:02 <Zakim> +JohnArwe; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +JohnArwe; got it ←

14:01:03 <Zakim> +gavinc

Zakim IRC Bot: +gavinc ←

14:01:12 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software

Zakim IRC Bot: +OpenLink_Software ←

14:01:13 <Zakim> +cygri

Zakim IRC Bot: +cygri ←

14:01:15 <Zakim> + +1.510.698.aacc

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.510.698.aacc ←

14:01:17 <MacTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me ←

14:01:17 <Zakim> +MacTed; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +MacTed; got it ←

14:01:18 <mhausenblas> Zakim, I am mhausenblas

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, I am mhausenblas ←

14:01:18 <Zakim> sorry, mhausenblas, I do not see a party named 'mhausenblas'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, mhausenblas, I do not see a party named 'mhausenblas' ←

14:01:18 <dret> zakim, dret is 510

Erik Wilde: zakim, dret is 510 ←

14:01:19 <MacTed> Zakim, mute me

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, mute me ←

14:01:20 <Zakim> sorry, dret, I do not recognize a party named 'dret'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, dret, I do not recognize a party named 'dret' ←

14:01:23 <Zakim> MacTed should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: MacTed should now be muted ←

14:01:27 <mhausenblas> Zakim, cygri really is mhausenblas

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, cygri really is mhausenblas ←

14:01:27 <Zakim> I don't understand 'cygri really is mhausenblas', mhausenblas

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'cygri really is mhausenblas', mhausenblas ←

14:01:30 <dret> zalim 510 is dret

Erik Wilde: zalim 510 is dret ←

14:01:33 <mhausenblas> Zakim, I am cygri

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, I am cygri ←

14:01:33 <Zakim> ok, mhausenblas, I now associate you with cygri

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, mhausenblas, I now associate you with cygri ←

14:01:41 <Zakim> + +1.714.454.aadd

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.714.454.aadd ←

14:01:44 <dret> zakim, 510 is dret

Erik Wilde: zakim, 510 is dret ←

14:01:48 <Zakim> sorry, dret, I do not recognize a party named '510'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, dret, I do not recognize a party named '510' ←

14:01:54 <Zakim> +??P16

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P16 ←

14:02:07 <dret> zakim aabb is dret

Erik Wilde: zakim aabb is dret ←

14:02:10 <oberger> Zakim, ??P16 is me

Olivier Berger: Zakim, ??P16 is me ←

14:02:13 <mhausenblas> Zakim, cyrgi is me

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, cyrgi is me ←

14:02:14 <Zakim> +oberger; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +oberger; got it ←

14:02:16 <Zakim> sorry, mhausenblas, I do not recognize a party named 'cyrgi'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, mhausenblas, I do not recognize a party named 'cyrgi' ←

14:02:24 <mhausenblas> Zakim, cygri is me

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, cygri is me ←

14:02:26 <dret> zakim, dret is aabb

Erik Wilde: zakim, dret is aabb ←

14:02:31 <bblfish> zakim, aacc is me

Henry Story: zakim, aacc is me ←

14:02:34 <Zakim> +mhausenblas; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +mhausenblas; got it ←

14:02:36 <Zakim> sorry, dret, I do not recognize a party named 'dret'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, dret, I do not recognize a party named 'dret' ←

14:02:43 <Zakim> +bblfish; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +bblfish; got it ←

14:02:51 <Zakim> +Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro ←

14:02:57 <dret> zakim, aabb is me

Erik Wilde: zakim, aabb is me ←

14:03:09 <Zakim> +dret; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +dret; got it ←

14:03:16 <oberger> hmmm.... am I the only one to not hear anything ?

Olivier Berger: hmmm.... am I the only one to not hear anything ? ←

14:03:30 <Zakim> + +1.617.324.aaee

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.617.324.aaee ←

14:03:38 <Zakim> +Karl

Zakim IRC Bot: +Karl ←

14:03:40 <SteveS> oberger: I hear Arnaud and other noise

Olivier Berger: I hear Arnaud and other noise [ Scribe Assist by Steve Speicher ] ←

14:03:41 <Zakim> - +1.617.324.aaee

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.617.324.aaee ←

14:03:59 <oberger> noise cancelation at arnaud's ?

Olivier Berger: noise cancelation at arnaud's ? ←

14:04:11 <Zakim> + +1.617.324.aaff

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.617.324.aaff ←

14:04:11 <oberger> ok, let's wait

Olivier Berger: ok, let's wait ←

14:04:36 <Zakim> -Yves

Zakim IRC Bot: -Yves ←

14:04:53 <rgarcia> zakim, aaee is me

Raúl García Castro: zakim, aaee is me ←

14:04:54 <Zakim> sorry, rgarcia, I do not recognize a party named 'aaee'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, rgarcia, I do not recognize a party named 'aaee' ←

14:04:56 <bblfish> hi

Henry Story: hi ←

14:05:08 <Zakim> -Karl

Zakim IRC Bot: -Karl ←

14:05:26 <mhausenblas> Zakim, pick a victim

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, pick a victim ←

14:05:26 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose bblfish

Zakim IRC Bot: Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose bblfish ←

14:05:31 <Zakim> +??P20

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P20 ←

14:05:37 <bblfish> ah I scribed recently...

Henry Story: ah I scribed recently... ←

14:05:45 <rgarcia> zakim, ??P20 is me

Raúl García Castro: zakim, ??P20 is me ←

14:05:45 <Zakim> +rgarcia; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +rgarcia; got it ←

14:05:51 <mhausenblas> scribenick: mhausenblas

(Scribe set to Michael Hausenblas)

14:06:02 <mhausenblas> Topic: Admin

1. Admin

14:06:02 <Zakim> +??P30

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P30 ←

14:06:22 <mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: Accept meeting minutes from http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/meeting/2012-08-20

PROPOSED: Accept meeting minutes from http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/meeting/2012-08-20 ←

14:06:29 <Zakim> +??P22

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P22 ←

14:06:30 <krp> zakim, ??P30 is me

Kevin Page: zakim, ??P30 is me ←

14:06:30 <Zakim> +krp; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +krp; got it ←

14:06:37 <mhausenblas> +1

+1 ←

14:06:39 <ghard> Zakim, ??P22 is me

Yrjana Rankka: Zakim, ??P22 is me ←

14:06:39 <Zakim> +ghard; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +ghard; got it ←

14:06:47 <SteveS> +1

Steve Speicher: +1 ←

14:06:53 <oberger> no problem +1

Olivier Berger: no problem +1 ←

14:06:54 <mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: Accept meeting minutes from http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/meeting/2012-08-27

PROPOSED: Accept meeting minutes from http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/meeting/2012-08-27 ←

14:07:14 <mhausenblas> RESOLUTION: Both meeting minutes have been approved by the WG

RESOLVED: Both meeting minutes have been approved by the WG ←

14:07:27 <mhausenblas> Topic: Tracking of issues and actions

2. Tracking of issues and actions

14:07:39 <mhausenblas>  Issues: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/

Issues: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/ ←

14:07:44 <Zakim> -krp

Zakim IRC Bot: -krp ←

14:08:00 <Zakim> +Yves

Zakim IRC Bot: +Yves ←

14:08:07 <mhausenblas> Arnaud: Not sure yet how extensive we gonna use it, but worth having a look at it and record them

Arnaud Le Hors: Not sure yet how extensive we gonna use it, but worth having a look at it and record them ←

14:08:13 <Zakim> +Ashok_Malhotra

Zakim IRC Bot: +Ashok_Malhotra ←

14:08:14 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes

RRSAgent, draft minutes ←

14:08:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-minutes.html mhausenblas

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-minutes.html mhausenblas ←

14:08:19 <Zakim> -Yves

Zakim IRC Bot: -Yves ←

14:08:24 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, make logs public

RRSAgent, make logs public ←

14:08:27 <mhausenblas> q?

q? ←

14:08:33 <Zakim> +??P30

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P30 ←

14:08:41 <krp> zakim, ??P30 is me

Kevin Page: zakim, ??P30 is me ←

14:08:41 <Zakim> +krp; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +krp; got it ←

14:08:44 <Zakim> + +44.208.573.aagg

Zakim IRC Bot: + +44.208.573.aagg ←

14:08:59 <Zakim> +??P36

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P36 ←

14:09:12 <mhausenblas> Arnaud: Every WG member can raise an issue and once accepted it will be marked as OPEN

Arnaud Le Hors: Every WG member can raise an issue and once accepted it will be marked as OPEN ←

14:10:24 <RezaBFar> 714.454.aadd is me.  Not sure why Zakim is not recognizing me.

Reza B'Far: 714.454.aadd is me. Not sure why Zakim is not recognizing me. ←

14:10:37 <MacTed> Zakim, aadd is RezaBFar

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, aadd is RezaBFar ←

14:10:38 <Zakim> +RezaBFar; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +RezaBFar; got it ←

14:10:59 <mhausenblas> Arnaud: Let's review actions

Arnaud Le Hors: Let's review actions ←

14:11:15 <mhausenblas> ACTION-4?

ACTION-4? ←

14:11:15 <trackbot> ACTION-4 -- Steve Speicher to review SPARQL Graph Store Protocol and suggest how we should move forward with it -- due 2012-09-12 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-4 -- Steve Speicher to review SPARQL Graph Store Protocol and suggest how we should move forward with it -- due 2012-09-12 -- OPEN ←

14:11:15 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/4

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/4 ←

14:11:22 <bblfish> I sent a mail out

Henry Story: I sent a mail out ←

14:11:26 <mhausenblas> SteveS: continues - next week, promise

Steve Speicher: continues - next week, promise ←

14:11:35 <mhausenblas> ACTION-5?

ACTION-5? ←

14:11:35 <trackbot> ACTION-5 -- Henry Story to add use case for non rdf content addition -- due 2012-07-30 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-5 -- Henry Story to add use case for non rdf content addition -- due 2012-07-30 -- OPEN ←

14:11:35 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/5

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/5 ←

14:11:44 <Zakim> -krp

Zakim IRC Bot: -krp ←

14:11:50 <mhausenblas> bblfish: I did send out, yes

Henry Story: I did send out, yes ←

14:11:54 <oberger> me can't see any note :-/

Olivier Berger: me can't see any note :-/ ←

14:12:09 <oberger> in http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/5

Olivier Berger: in http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/5 ←

14:12:13 <mhausenblas> bblfish: see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2012Sep/0007.html

Henry Story: see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2012Sep/0007.html ←

14:12:44 <bblfish> ok, will do that right after the call

Henry Story: ok, will do that right after the call ←

14:12:51 <mhausenblas> close ACTION-5

close ACTION-5 ←

14:12:51 <trackbot> ACTION-5 Add use case for non rdf content addition closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-5 Add use case for non rdf content addition closed ←

14:12:57 <oberger> mhausenblas, ;-)

Olivier Berger: mhausenblas, ;-) ←

14:13:55 <bblfish> I can re-word and put in wiki, then others can edit it

Henry Story: I can re-word and put in wiki, then others can edit it ←

14:14:28 <mhausenblas> ACTION-6?

ACTION-6? ←

14:14:28 <trackbot> ACTION-6 -- Michael Hausenblas to review SDshare -- due 2012-09-17 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-6 -- Michael Hausenblas to review SDshare -- due 2012-09-17 -- OPEN ←

14:14:28 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/6

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/6 ←

14:14:35 <bblfish> you're welcome

Henry Story: you're welcome ←

14:14:46 <mhausenblas> Michael: continues - been on vacation

Michael Hausenblas: continues - been on vacation ←

14:14:59 <Zakim> +Yves

Zakim IRC Bot: +Yves ←

14:15:24 <mhausenblas> Michael: Graham Moore offered help, will deliver next week

Michael Hausenblas: Graham Moore offered help, will deliver next week ←

14:16:05 <mhausenblas> Arnaud: Now we're back to our weekly schedule

Arnaud Le Hors: Now we're back to our weekly schedule ←

14:16:21 <Zakim> + +1.937.775.aahh

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.937.775.aahh ←

14:16:44 <Zakim> +??P40

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P40 ←

14:16:53 <mhausenblas> … looking at the charter, the schedule says UCR were due in 07/2012, see http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/charter

… looking at the charter, the schedule says UCR were due in 07/2012, see http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/charter ←

14:17:09 <mhausenblas> Arnaud: We need to see to catch-up on these actions

Arnaud Le Hors: We need to see to catch-up on these actions ←

14:17:28 <mhausenblas> Arnaud: FPWD are due for 10/2012

Arnaud Le Hors: FPWD are due for 10/2012 ←

14:17:48 <mhausenblas> … we're slipping behind schedule, so we need to show some progress

… we're slipping behind schedule, so we need to show some progress ←

14:18:17 <oberger> btw, 1st of november is holiday in France... in case you're coming to Lyon... maybe some disruption of french public services to be expected on location

Olivier Berger: btw, 1st of november is holiday in France... in case you're coming to Lyon... maybe some disruption of french public services to be expected on location ←

14:18:30 <mhausenblas> Arnaud: We need to have more discussions on the mailing list

Arnaud Le Hors: We need to have more discussions on the mailing list ←

14:18:32 <oberger> (F2F TPAC)

Olivier Berger: (F2F TPAC) ←

14:18:34 <Yves> it will be the same service as on a sunday

Yves Lafon: it will be the same service as on a sunday ←

14:18:41 <mhausenblas> q+ to talk re process

q+ to talk re process ←

14:18:42 <oberger> Yves, yes

Olivier Berger: Yves, yes ←

14:18:54 <Zakim> +??P42

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P42 ←

14:18:57 <mhausenblas> Arnaud: Use telecons to resolve difficult issues

Arnaud Le Hors: Use telecons to resolve difficult issues ←

14:19:01 <mhausenblas> q?

q? ←

14:19:34 <bblfish> q+

Henry Story: q+ ←

14:19:45 <mhausenblas> q?

q? ←

14:20:04 <mhausenblas> ack me

ack me ←

14:20:04 <Zakim> mhausenblas, you wanted to talk re process

Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas, you wanted to talk re process ←

14:20:30 <Zakim> -??P36

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P36 ←

14:21:26 <mhausenblas> Michael: Agreed re progress but we need to work towards concrete proposals

Michael Hausenblas: Agreed re progress but we need to work towards concrete proposals ←

14:21:27 <mhausenblas> q?

q? ←

14:21:45 <Zakim> -??P42

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P42 ←

14:22:21 <mhausenblas> ack bblfish

ack bblfish ←

14:22:37 <mhausenblas> bblfish: PROPOSAL: Take the Member Submission as a FPWD

Henry Story: PROPOSAL: Take the Member Submission as a FPWD ←

14:22:53 <mhausenblas> q?

q? ←

14:23:09 <gavinc> q+ is their an editor/s?

Gavin Carothers: q+ is their an editor/s? ←

14:23:19 <mhausenblas> q?

q? ←

14:23:19 <gavinc> q+ to ask if their is an editor/s?

Gavin Carothers: q+ to ask if their is an editor/s? ←

14:23:20 <SteveS> +1 to PROPOSAL to move submission to working draft

Steve Speicher: +1 to PROPOSAL to move submission to working draft ←

14:23:39 <mhausenblas> +1 to the  PROPOSAL to move submission to working draft by bblfish

+1 to the PROPOSAL to move submission to working draft by bblfish ←

14:24:37 <mhausenblas> ack gavinc

ack gavinc ←

14:24:37 <Zakim> gavinc, you wanted to ask if their is an editor/s?

Zakim IRC Bot: gavinc, you wanted to ask if their is an editor/s? ←

14:24:49 <SteveS> I have volunteered

Steve Speicher: I have volunteered ←

14:24:51 <mhausenblas> gavinc: is there an Editor in sight?

Gavin Carothers: is there an Editor in sight? ←

14:24:59 <mhausenblas> +1

+1 ←

14:25:06 <mhausenblas> Michael: +1 for editor

Michael Hausenblas: +1 for editor ←

14:25:21 <JohnArwe> I can also help

John Arwe: I can also help ←

14:25:26 <bblfish> It's always better to have 2 people :-)

Henry Story: It's always better to have 2 people :-) ←

14:25:47 <mhausenblas> Michael: Happy to chime in as well

Michael Hausenblas: Happy to chime in as well ←

14:25:56 <oberger> obviously it is if we fallback on using the proposal as a draft ;)

Olivier Berger: obviously it is if we fallback on using the proposal as a draft ;) ←

14:26:10 <mhausenblas> q?

q? ←

14:26:13 <oberger> (looking like IBM alone ;)

Olivier Berger: (looking like IBM alone ;) ←

14:26:46 <oberger> mhausenblas, our messages crossed eachother

Olivier Berger: mhausenblas, our messages crossed eachother ←

14:27:14 <bblfish> it's better to have somtehitng to start where we can say: passage x, or y needs to be changed....

Henry Story: it's better to have somtehitng to start where we can say: passage x, or y needs to be changed.... ←

14:27:59 <bblfish> respec is cool

Henry Story: respec is cool ←

14:28:04 <gavinc> respec!

Gavin Carothers: respec! ←

14:28:12 <bblfish> http://webid.info/spec/ used it

Henry Story: http://webid.info/spec/ used it ←

14:28:22 <gavinc> http://dev.w3.org/2009/dap/ReSpec.js/documentation.html

Gavin Carothers: http://dev.w3.org/2009/dap/ReSpec.js/documentation.html ←

14:28:36 <Zakim> -ghard

Zakim IRC Bot: -ghard ←

14:28:41 <oberger> git

Olivier Berger: git ←

14:28:41 <Zakim> -RezaBFar

Zakim IRC Bot: -RezaBFar ←

14:29:02 <oberger> that one could be controversial topic for discussion ;)

Olivier Berger: that one could be controversial topic for discussion ;) ←

14:29:10 <bblfish> you can use github, and sync with mercurial

Henry Story: you can use github, and sync with mercurial ←

14:29:21 <gavinc> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/linked-data/ ... is that us?

Gavin Carothers: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/linked-data/ ... is that us? ←

14:29:22 <mhausenblas> Sandro++ for git

Sandro++ for git ←

14:29:29 <gavinc> doesn't look like it?

Gavin Carothers: doesn't look like it? ←

14:29:29 <oberger> is there a DVCS with a REST API ?

Olivier Berger: is there a DVCS with a REST API ? ←

14:29:39 <mhausenblas> no, gavinc

no, gavinc ←

14:30:03 <gavinc> then, no I don't see an hg repo

Gavin Carothers: then, no I don't see an hg repo ←

14:30:09 <Yves> not us

Yves Lafon: not us ←

14:30:14 <mhausenblas> likewise

likewise ←

14:30:27 <bblfish> this is the webid mercurial http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/WebID

Henry Story: this is the webid mercurial http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/WebID ←

14:30:45 <Yves> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg has all the repo

Yves Lafon: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg has all the repo ←

14:30:50 <mhausenblas> ACTION: SteveS to publish member submission as FPWD with support of JohnArwe and mhausenblas

ACTION: SteveS to publish member submission as FPWD with support of JohnArwe and mhausenblas ←

14:30:50 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - SteveS

Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, couldn't find user - SteveS ←

14:31:00 <oberger> do we have/need consensus on that next action ?

Olivier Berger: do we have/need consensus on that next action ? ←

14:31:12 <ghard> Lost connect. Zakim keeps telling me the conference code's not valid.

Yrjana Rankka: Lost connect. Zakim keeps telling me the conference code's not valid. ←

14:31:13 <mhausenblas> ACTION: sspeiche to publish member submission as FPWD with support of JohnArwe and mhausenblas

ACTION: sspeiche to publish member submission as FPWD with support of JohnArwe and mhausenblas ←

14:31:13 <trackbot> Created ACTION-10 - Publish member submission as FPWD with support of JohnArwe and mhausenblas  [on Steve Speicher - due 2012-09-17].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-10 - Publish member submission as FPWD with support of JohnArwe and mhausenblas [on Steve Speicher - due 2012-09-17]. ←

14:31:23 <gavinc> uh

Gavin Carothers: uh ←

14:31:38 <gavinc> That action seems a bit strong ;)

Gavin Carothers: That action seems a bit strong ;) ←

14:31:51 <bblfish> +1

Henry Story: +1 ←

14:31:54 <gavinc> I think we were looking for a draft of a FPWD?

Gavin Carothers: I think we were looking for a draft of a FPWD? ←

14:32:01 <mhausenblas> RESOLUTION: to move submission to working draft

RESOLVED: to move submission to working draft ←

14:32:04 <gavinc> not to publish it before anyone has seen it or it's been written?

Gavin Carothers: not to publish it before anyone has seen it or it's been written? ←

14:32:08 <MacTed> yah; that was "convert member submission to working draft"

Ted Thibodeau: yah; that was "convert member submission to working draft" ←

14:32:14 <gavinc> Ah okay :D

Gavin Carothers: Ah okay :D ←

14:32:45 <JohnArwe> if yves needs my w3c id for setting up ACLS, it is jarwe

John Arwe: if yves needs my w3c id for setting up ACLS, it is jarwe ←

14:33:03 <MacTed> action 10?

Ted Thibodeau: ACTION-10? ←

14:33:03 <trackbot> Sorry, bad ACTION syntax

Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, bad ACTION syntax ←

14:33:10 <MacTed> action-10?

Ted Thibodeau: ACTION-10? ←

14:33:10 <trackbot> ACTION-10 -- Steve Speicher to publish member submission as FPWD with support of JohnArwe and mhausenblas -- due 2012-09-17 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-10 -- Steve Speicher to publish member submission as FPWD with support of JohnArwe and mhausenblas -- due 2012-09-17 -- OPEN ←

14:33:10 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/10

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/10 ←

14:33:14 <mhausenblas> Michael: Correct, it is initially an Editors Draft that, given WG approval will be turned into a FPWD

Michael Hausenblas: Correct, it is initially an Editors Draft that, given WG approval will be turned into a FPWD ←

14:33:19 <Yves> John, I'll check what is needed for dvcs, but it should be ok as long as you have a w3c id

Yves Lafon: John, I'll check what is needed for dvcs, but it should be ok as long as you have a w3c id ←

14:33:51 <mhausenblas> q?

q? ←

14:34:20 <MacTed> action-10?

Ted Thibodeau: ACTION-10? ←

14:34:20 <trackbot> ACTION-10 -- Steve Speicher to convert member submission to Editor's Draft, with support of JohnArwe and mhausenblas -- due 2012-09-17 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-10 -- Steve Speicher to convert member submission to Editor's Draft, with support of JohnArwe and mhausenblas -- due 2012-09-17 -- OPEN ←

14:34:20 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/10

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/10 ←

14:34:51 <gavinc> Tracking and then nice little ISSUE notes in the document?

Gavin Carothers: Tracking and then nice little ISSUE notes in the document? ←

14:35:09 <Yves> repo should appear at https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg

Yves Lafon: repo should appear at https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg ←

14:35:29 <mhausenblas> Michael: Thanks Yves!

Michael Hausenblas: Thanks Yves! ←

14:35:30 <gavinc> thanks Yves

Gavin Carothers: thanks Yves ←

14:35:39 <Yves> writable by all wg members

Yves Lafon: writable by all wg members ←

14:35:45 <mhausenblas> Michael: Can take care of creating the products in tracker

Michael Hausenblas: Can take care of creating the products in tracker ←

14:35:54 <oberger> you mean, providing code ?

Olivier Berger: you mean, providing code ? ←

14:36:10 <gavinc> or "this is bad and fixing it is really hard"?

Gavin Carothers: or "this is bad and fixing it is really hard"? ←

14:36:19 <MacTed> +1 gavinc

Ted Thibodeau: +1 gavinc ←

14:36:23 <Arnaud> q?

Arnaud Le Hors: q? ←

14:37:11 <mhausenblas> Michael: The products are now in place , see https://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/products

Michael Hausenblas: The products are now in place , see https://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/products ←

14:37:41 <mhausenblas> Michael: I suggest, from now on, please everyone, tag your issue and or action with one of the products - helps also the chairs

Michael Hausenblas: I suggest, from now on, please everyone, tag your issue and or action with one of the products - helps also the chairs ←

14:37:45 <mhausenblas> q?

q? ←

14:38:04 <mhausenblas> sandro: FPWD should be published before TPAC

Sandro Hawke: FPWD should be published before TPAC ←

14:38:18 <mhausenblas> PROPOSAL:  FPWD should be published before TPAC

PROPOSED: FPWD should be published before TPAC ←

14:38:23 <mhausenblas> Michael: +1

Michael Hausenblas: +1 ←

14:38:26 <mhausenblas> q?

q? ←

14:38:37 <SteveS> +1, was what I was thinking as well

Steve Speicher: +1, was what I was thinking as well ←

14:38:40 <gavinc> +0.9 (Not an editor, thus not +1 ;) )

Gavin Carothers: +0.9 (Not an editor, thus not +1 ;) ) ←

14:38:55 <mhausenblas> Arnaud: Any objections?

Arnaud Le Hors: Any objections? ←

14:38:57 <bblfish> seems good to me

Henry Story: seems good to me ←

14:38:58 <mhausenblas> ack Yves

ack Yves ←

14:39:14 <mhausenblas> Yves: The FPWD need not be perfect

Yves Lafon: The FPWD need not be perfect ←

14:39:20 <mhausenblas> Michael: +1000000000000

Michael Hausenblas: +1000000000000 ←

14:39:23 <oberger> release early, release often

Olivier Berger: release early, release often ←

14:39:24 <Zakim> -Ashok_Malhotra

Zakim IRC Bot: -Ashok_Malhotra ←

14:39:26 <bblfish> +1

Henry Story: +1 ←

14:39:31 <Arnaud> q?

Arnaud Le Hors: q? ←

14:39:36 <MacTed> Zakim, unmute me

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, unmute me ←

14:39:36 <Zakim> MacTed should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: MacTed should no longer be muted ←

14:40:09 <mhausenblas> MacTed: Is that check with publication moratoriums, etc

Ted Thibodeau: Is that check with publication moratoriums, etc ←

14:40:25 <mhausenblas> Arnaud: Agreed. Chairs and team contact will check

Arnaud Le Hors: Agreed. Chairs and team contact will check ←

14:40:51 <sandro> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2012AprJun/0093.html

Sandro Hawke: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2012AprJun/0093.html ←

14:40:57 <sandro> Publishing moratoria second half of 2012

Sandro Hawke: Publishing moratoria second half of 2012 ←

14:41:18 <mhausenblas> Michael: No publications the week of 29 October due to TPAC 2012:

Michael Hausenblas: No publications the week of 29 October due to TPAC 2012: ←

14:41:24 <gavinc> October 29th, till...?

Gavin Carothers: October 29th, till...? ←

14:41:24 <oberger> sandro, may I ask what that is ?

Olivier Berger: sandro, may I ask what that is ? ←

14:43:11 <mhausenblas> sandro: let everyon review and raise issues

Sandro Hawke: let everyon review and raise issues ←

14:43:17 <Yves> <<

Yves Lafon: << ←

14:43:19 <Yves> Entrance criteria: The Chair MUST record the group's decision to request advancement. Since this is the first time that a document with this short name appears in the Technical Reports index, Director approval is REQUIRED for the transition.

Yves Lafon: Entrance criteria: The Chair MUST record the group's decision to request advancement. Since this is the first time that a document with this short name appears in the Technical Reports index, Director approval is REQUIRED for the transition. ←

14:43:19 <mhausenblas> q+ to propose reviewing process

q+ to propose reviewing process ←

14:43:20 <Yves> >>

Yves Lafon: >> ←

14:43:29 <mhausenblas> q?

q? ←

14:43:41 <mhausenblas> ack me

ack me ←

14:43:41 <Zakim> mhausenblas, you wanted to propose reviewing process

Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas, you wanted to propose reviewing process ←

14:45:03 <sandro> mhausenblas: Let the chairs set a deadline by which time everyone has to RAISE any issues they have with the submission/fpwd

Michael Hausenblas: Let the chairs set a deadline by which time everyone has to RAISE any issues they have with the submission/fpwd [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←

14:45:04 <mhausenblas> q?

q? ←

14:45:06 <sandro> +1

Sandro Hawke: +1 ←

14:45:30 <mhausenblas> Michel: Suggest some 4 weeks WG-internal review period in which WG members can raise issues once ED is available

Michael Hausenblas: Suggest some 4 weeks WG-internal review period in which WG members can raise issues once ED is available ←

14:45:51 <mhausenblas> s/Michel/Michael
14:45:53 <dret> ACTION: chairs should define a timeline for working on the editor's draft and the FPWG

ACTION: chairs should define a timeline for working on the editor's draft and the FPWG ←

14:45:53 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - chairs

Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, couldn't find user - chairs ←

14:45:53 <mhausenblas> RESOLUTION: WG resolves that the FPWD should be published before TPAC

RESOLVED: WG resolves that the FPWD should be published before TPAC ←

14:46:12 <mhausenblas> SteveS: two action items really: create ED first and then resolve FPWD

Steve Speicher: two action items really: create ED first and then resolve FPWD ←

14:46:59 <oberger> and we're discussing things that weren't really on the agenda initially ?

Olivier Berger: and we're discussing things that weren't really on the agenda initially ? ←

14:47:07 <dret> ACTION: Arnaud and dret define a timeline for working on the editor's draft and the FPWG

ACTION: Arnaud and dret define a timeline for working on the editor's draft and the FPWG ←

14:47:07 <trackbot> Created ACTION-11 - And dret define a timeline for working on the editor's draft and the FPWG [on Arnaud Le Hors - due 2012-09-17].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-11 - And dret define a timeline for working on the editor's draft and the FPWG [on Arnaud Le Hors - due 2012-09-17]. ←

14:47:14 <oberger> of today's meeting I mean

Olivier Berger: of today's meeting I mean ←

14:47:18 <oberger> just in case

Olivier Berger: just in case ←

14:47:37 <JohnArwe> if you are using those "shared actions" to keep them on people's radar, since they get reviewed at the start of each mtg, not seeing the harm.  true that editors could not unilaterally fulfill action, but we humans know that.

John Arwe: if you are using those "shared actions" to keep them on people's radar, since they get reviewed at the start of each mtg, not seeing the harm. true that editors could not unilaterally fulfill action, but we humans know that. ←

14:48:30 <Arnaud> q?

Arnaud Le Hors: q? ←

14:48:37 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes

RRSAgent, draft minutes ←

14:48:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-minutes.html mhausenblas

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-minutes.html mhausenblas ←

14:48:40 <bblfish> perhaps just make the chair responsible, and rephrase it: The chair opens discussion on the pre-published draft, and leaves 2-3 weeks for the questions before closing

Henry Story: perhaps just make the chair responsible, and rephrase it: The chair opens discussion on the pre-published draft, and leaves 2-3 weeks for the questions before closing ←

14:48:49 <sandro> sandro: step 1: editors turn submission into ED;   step 2: each member of the WG raises all the issues they care about;    step 3: editors make sure those issues are listed in the ED and get it publisehd as FPD.

Sandro Hawke: step 1: editors turn submission into ED; step 2: each member of the WG raises all the issues they care about; step 3: editors make sure those issues are listed in the ED and get it publisehd as FPWD. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←

14:48:57 <sandro> s/FPD/FPWD
14:49:01 <mhausenblas> Topic: Next meeting and F2F

3. Next meeting and F2F

14:49:23 <mhausenblas> Arnaud: Next meeting is on September 17, 2012

Arnaud Le Hors: Next meeting is on September 17, 2012 ←

14:49:29 <bblfish> I have not registered, but count me in

Henry Story: I have not registered, but count me in ←

14:49:32 <mhausenblas> Arnaud: Please register at http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/F2F1

Arnaud Le Hors: Please register at http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/F2F1 ←

14:49:39 <bblfish> ah

Henry Story: ah ←

14:49:46 <sandro> bblfish, we can't count you in until you've paid.

Sandro Hawke: bblfish, we can't count you in until you've paid. ←

14:49:49 <mhausenblas> chair: Arnaud
14:49:53 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes

RRSAgent, draft minutes ←

14:49:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-minutes.html mhausenblas

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-minutes.html mhausenblas ←

14:50:39 <bblfish> ok, added myself to http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/F2F1#Participants

Henry Story: ok, added myself to http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/F2F1#Participants ←

14:51:02 <bblfish> ah, ok. got to pay too then

Henry Story: ah, ok. got to pay too then ←

14:51:20 <Arnaud> q?

Arnaud Le Hors: q? ←

14:51:36 <MacTed> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2012Sep/0001.html

Ted Thibodeau: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2012Sep/0001.html ←

14:52:16 <mhausenblas> Arnaud: Assuming everyone is happy with the proposed way to go by Steve Battle, see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2012Sep/0001.html

Arnaud Le Hors: Assuming everyone is happy with the proposed way to go by Steve Battle, see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2012Sep/0001.html ←

14:52:30 <sandro> Not sure the ACL's on this page, but TPAC registration shows up here: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2012/registrants#LDP        Seven attendees, two observers, so far.

Sandro Hawke: Not sure the ACL's on this page, but TPAC registration shows up here: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2012/registrants#LDP Seven attendees, two observers, so far. ←

14:52:41 <mhausenblas> Arnaud: No objections, so we assume we move on with this

Arnaud Le Hors: No objections, so we assume we move on with this ←

14:52:54 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes

RRSAgent, draft minutes ←

14:52:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-minutes.html mhausenblas

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-minutes.html mhausenblas ←

14:53:44 <mhausenblas> Topic: Use Cases and Requirements

4. Use Cases and Requirements

14:53:55 <mhausenblas> (scribe was sleeping, should really have been above)

(scribe was sleeping, should really have been above) ←

14:54:03 <mhausenblas> Topic: Serialization formats

5. Serialization formats

14:54:11 <mhausenblas> ISSUE-1?

ISSUE-1? ←

14:54:11 <trackbot> ISSUE-1 -- Determine minimum serialization format for RDF data model -- raised

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-1 -- Determine minimum serialization format for RDF data model -- raised ←

14:54:11 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/1

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/1 ←

14:54:41 <mhausenblas> Arnaud: Seems we have wide agreement re Turtle

Arnaud Le Hors: Seems we have wide agreement re Turtle ←

14:54:58 <gavinc> q+ to recommend that this WG review Turtle before the end of it's Last Call period

Gavin Carothers: q+ to recommend that this WG review Turtle before the end of it's Last Call period ←

14:55:09 <mhausenblas> q?

q? ←

14:55:25 <mhausenblas> ack gavinc

ack gavinc ←

14:55:25 <Zakim> gavinc, you wanted to recommend that this WG review Turtle before the end of it's Last Call period

Zakim IRC Bot: gavinc, you wanted to recommend that this WG review Turtle before the end of it's Last Call period ←

14:55:44 <mhausenblas> gavinc: With my Turtle Editors hat on, I support Turtle as the default

Gavin Carothers: With my Turtle Editors hat on, I support Turtle as the default ←

14:55:53 <mhausenblas> … LC for Turtle ends soon

… LC for Turtle ends soon ←

14:55:58 <mhausenblas> … comments are welcome

… comments are welcome ←

14:55:59 <bblfish> ah it would be great to have = in turtle for owl:sameAs

Henry Story: ah it would be great to have = in turtle for owl:sameAs ←

14:56:04 <mhausenblas> Michael: +1 to use Turtle

Michael Hausenblas: +1 to use Turtle ←

14:56:05 <gavinc> http://www.w3.org/TR/turtle/

Gavin Carothers: http://www.w3.org/TR/turtle/ ←

14:56:22 <oberger> http://www.w3.org/blog/SW/2012/07/13/rdf-working-group-publishes-turtle-as-last-call-working-draft/

Olivier Berger: http://www.w3.org/blog/SW/2012/07/13/rdf-working-group-publishes-turtle-as-last-call-working-draft/ ←

14:56:57 <mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: The WG decides to use RDF Turtle as the minimum serialization format

PROPOSED: The WG decides to use RDF Turtle as the minimum serialization format ←

14:57:10 <SteveS> +1

Steve Speicher: +1 ←

14:57:11 <gavinc> +1 Yay Turtle

Gavin Carothers: +1 Yay Turtle ←

14:57:20 <mhausenblas> Michael: +1

Michael Hausenblas: +1 ←

14:57:31 <bblfish> +1 it's especially useful to have turtle in the examples in the spec

Henry Story: +1 it's especially useful to have turtle in the examples in the spec ←

14:57:32 <MacTed> +1

Ted Thibodeau: +1 ←

14:57:36 <rgarcia> +1

Raúl García Castro: +1 ←

14:57:39 <dret> +1

Erik Wilde: +1 ←

14:57:42 <jkopecky> +1 for turtle

Jacek Kopecky: +1 for turtle ←

14:57:43 <oberger> +1 same as bblfish

Olivier Berger: +1 same as bblfish ←

14:57:44 <bblfish> ( rdf/xml is completely not understandable )

Henry Story: ( rdf/xml is completely not understandable ) ←

14:58:21 <mhausenblas> Roger: I support RDF Turtle, JSON is also good

Roger Menday: I support RDF Turtle, JSON is also good ←

14:58:33 <jkopecky> is RDF/JSON useful without code wrapping? If not, no diff from turtle

Jacek Kopecky: is RDF/JSON useful without code wrapping? If not, no diff from turtle ←

14:58:34 <Kalpa> +1 for turtle

Kalpa Gunaratna: +1 for turtle ←

14:58:36 <dret> we should have a few required formats as possible (for interop)

Erik Wilde: we should hasve as few required formasts ass possible (for interop) ←

14:58:44 <dret> s/a/as/
14:58:48 <mhausenblas> Michael: +1 to dret

Michael Hausenblas: +1 to dret ←

15:00:01 <mhausenblas> q?

q? ←

15:00:02 <bblfish> I think we should definitely allow other formats om tje longer run. (perhaps there should be some documentation in there)

Henry Story: I think we should definitely allow other formats om tje longer run. (perhaps there should be some documentation in there) ←

15:00:03 <SteveS> Sounds like: Turtle = MUST, JSON-LD = SHOULD

Steve Speicher: Sounds like: Turtle = MUST, JSON-LD = SHOULD ←

15:00:17 <bblfish> SteveS: +1

Steve Speicher: +1 [ Scribe Assist by Henry Story ] ←

15:00:18 <sandro> +1 for turtle as a minimum

Sandro Hawke: +1 for turtle as a minimum ←

15:00:22 <oberger> and RDF/XML : shouldn't ?

Olivier Berger: and RDF/XML : shouldn't ? ←

15:00:35 <SteveS> oberger: RDF/XML maybe just unsaid

Olivier Berger: RDF/XML maybe just unsaid [ Scribe Assist by Steve Speicher ] ←

15:00:42 <JohnArwe> +1 turtle

John Arwe: +1 turtle ←

15:00:43 <dret> i like the MUST/SHOULD (recommended supported serializations) approach

Erik Wilde: i like the MUST/SHOULD (recommended supported serializations) approach ←

15:00:51 <oberger> SteveS, it seems so unpopular, that we might as well take a stance ? ;)

Olivier Berger: SteveS, it seems so unpopular, that we might as well take a stance ? ;) ←

15:01:18 <SteveS> oberger: my OSLC hat on, it will be a hard sell

Olivier Berger: my OSLC hat on, it will be a hard sell [ Scribe Assist by Steve Speicher ] ←

15:01:22 <gavinc> We *MUST* allow other formats, but I don't think we should require more than one

Gavin Carothers: We *MUST* allow other formats, but I don't think we should require more than one ←

15:01:39 <oberger> Eclipse... Lyo ;)

Olivier Berger: Eclipse... Lyo ;) ←

15:01:42 <bblfish> yes SHOULD for RDF?XML

Henry Story: yes SHOULD for RDF?XML ←

15:01:42 <sandro> Arnaud: We might still REQUIRE or RECOMMEND other formats, although I agree one is probably best

Arnaud Le Hors: We might still REQUIRE or RECOMMEND other formats, although I agree one is probably best [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←

15:01:54 <dret> agreed to Arnaus, 1 is the best number, 2 may be acceptable, anything bigger is probably not a good idea for interop

Erik Wilde: agreed to Arnaus, 1 is the best number, 2 may be acceptable, anything bigger is probably not a good idea for interop ←

15:02:02 <mhausenblas> RESOLUTION: The WG decides to use RDF Turtle as the minimum serialization format

RESOLVED: The WG decides to use RDF Turtle as the minimum serialization format ←

15:02:10 <bblfish> agree +1 for now Turtle is a MUST

Henry Story: agree +1 for now Turtle is a MUST ←

15:02:14 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes

RRSAgent, draft minutes ←

15:02:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-minutes.html mhausenblas

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-minutes.html mhausenblas ←

15:02:21 <sandro> +1 arnaud chairing today!   :-)

Sandro Hawke: +1 arnaud chairing today! :-) ←

15:02:24 <bblfish> :)

Henry Story: :) ←

15:02:28 <dret> thanks everybody!

Erik Wilde: thanks everybody! ←

15:02:39 <Zakim> -bblfish

Zakim IRC Bot: -bblfish ←

15:02:39 <gavinc> Please please please review http://www.w3.org/TR/turtle/ or the edited ED http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-turtle/index.html#

Gavin Carothers: Please please please review http://www.w3.org/TR/turtle/ or the edited ED http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-turtle/index.html# ←

15:02:51 <oberger> bye

Olivier Berger: bye ←

15:02:55 <mhausenblas> (meeting adjourned)

(meeting adjourned) ←

15:02:58 <Zakim> -Yves

Zakim IRC Bot: -Yves ←

15:03:00 <Zakim> -SteveS

Zakim IRC Bot: -SteveS ←

15:03:00 <Zakim> -Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro ←

15:03:00 <Zakim> -dret

Zakim IRC Bot: -dret ←

15:03:01 <Zakim> -mhausenblas

Zakim IRC Bot: -mhausenblas ←

15:03:01 <Zakim> -rgarcia

Zakim IRC Bot: -rgarcia ←

15:03:03 <Zakim> - +44.208.573.aagg

Zakim IRC Bot: - +44.208.573.aagg ←

15:03:04 <Zakim> -gavinc

Zakim IRC Bot: -gavinc ←

15:03:06 <Zakim> -MacTed

Zakim IRC Bot: -MacTed ←

15:03:07 <Zakim> -Arnaud

Zakim IRC Bot: -Arnaud ←

15:03:10 <Zakim> -oberger

Zakim IRC Bot: -oberger ←

15:03:11 <Zakim> - +1.937.775.aahh

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.937.775.aahh ←

15:03:13 <Zakim> -jkopecky

Zakim IRC Bot: -jkopecky ←

15:03:34 <Kalpa> zakim aahh is me

Kalpa Gunaratna: zakim aahh is me ←

15:03:37 <Zakim> -JohnArwe

Zakim IRC Bot: -JohnArwe ←

15:03:38 <Zakim> SW_LDP()10:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: SW_LDP()10:00AM has ended ←

15:03:38 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.845.433.aaaa, Arnaud, +1.510.206.aabb, SteveS, JohnArwe, gavinc, +1.510.698.aacc, MacTed, +1.714.454.aadd, oberger, mhausenblas, bblfish, Sandro, dret,

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were +1.845.433.aaaa, Arnaud, +1.510.206.aabb, SteveS, JohnArwe, gavinc, +1.510.698.aacc, MacTed, +1.714.454.aadd, oberger, mhausenblas, bblfish, Sandro, dret, ←

15:03:38 <Zakim> ... +1.617.324.aaee, Karl, +1.617.324.aaff, Yves, rgarcia, krp, ghard, Ashok_Malhotra, +44.208.573.aagg, RezaBFar, +1.937.775.aahh, jkopecky

Zakim IRC Bot: ... +1.617.324.aaee, Karl, +1.617.324.aaff, Yves, rgarcia, krp, ghard, Ashok_Malhotra, +44.208.573.aagg, RezaBFar, +1.937.775.aahh, jkopecky ←

15:25:22 <mhausenblas> trackbot, end telecon

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trackbot, end telecon ←

15:25:22 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees

Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, list attendees ←

15:25:22 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is ←

15:25:30 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes

Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, please draft minutes ←

15:25:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-minutes.html trackbot

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-minutes.html trackbot ←

15:25:31 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye

Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, bye ←

15:25:31 <RRSAgent> I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-actions.rdf :

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-actions.rdf : ←

15:25:31 <RRSAgent> ACTION: SteveS to publish member submission as FPWD with support of JohnArwe and mhausenblas  [1]

ACTION: SteveS to publish member submission as FPWD with support of JohnArwe and mhausenblas [1] ←

15:25:31 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-irc#T14-30-50

RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-irc#T14-30-50 ←

15:25:31 <RRSAgent> ACTION: sspeiche to publish member submission as FPWD with support of JohnArwe and mhausenblas  [2]

ACTION: sspeiche to publish member submission as FPWD with support of JohnArwe and mhausenblas [2] ←

15:25:31 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-irc#T14-31-13

RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-irc#T14-31-13 ←

15:25:31 <RRSAgent> ACTION: chairs should define a timeline for working on the editor's draft and the FPWG [3]

ACTION: chairs should define a timeline for working on the editor's draft and the FPWG [3] ←

15:25:31 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-irc#T14-45-53

RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-irc#T14-45-53 ←

15:25:31 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Arnaud and dret define a timeline for working on the editor's draft and the FPWG [4]

ACTION: Arnaud and dret define a timeline for working on the editor's draft and the FPWG [4] ←

15:25:31 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-irc#T14-47-07

RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-irc#T14-47-07 ←



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