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Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 10 September 2012

Seen
Arnaud Le Hors, Ashok Malhotra, Erik Wilde, Gavin Carothers, Henry Story, Jacek Kopecky, John Arwe, Kalpa Gunaratna, Karl ???, Kevin Page, Michael Hausenblas, Olivier Berger, Raúl García Castro, Reza B'Far, Roger Menday, Sandro Hawke, Steve Speicher, Ted Thibodeau, Yrjana Rankka, Yves Lafon
Guests
Karl ???
Chair
Arnaud Le Hors
Scribe
Michael Hausenblas
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. Both meeting minutes have been approved by the WG link
  2. to move submission to working draft link
  3. WG resolves that the FPWD should be published before TPAC link
  4. The WG decides to use RDF Turtle as the minimum serialization format link
Topics
<Arnaud> Guest: Karl ???
13:59:36 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-irc

RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-irc

13:59:38 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public

Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs public

13:59:40 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be LDP

Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be LDP

13:59:41 <trackbot> Meeting: Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference
13:59:41 <trackbot> Date: 10 September 2012
14:00:16 <mhausenblas> Zakim, this will be LDP

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, this will be LDP

14:00:20 <Zakim> ok, mhausenblas, I see SW_LDP()10:00AM already started

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, mhausenblas, I see SW_LDP()10:00AM already started

14:00:37 <Zakim> +Arnaud

Zakim IRC Bot: +Arnaud

14:00:51 <Zakim> + +1.510.206.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.510.206.aabb

14:00:55 <JohnArwe> zakim, who is on the phone?

John Arwe: zakim, who is on the phone?

14:00:55 <Zakim> On the phone I see [IBM], +1.845.433.aaaa, Arnaud, +1.510.206.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see [IBM], +1.845.433.aaaa, Arnaud, +1.510.206.aabb

14:00:57 <SteveS> zakim, [IBM] is me

Steve Speicher: zakim, [IBM] is me

14:00:57 <Zakim> +SteveS; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +SteveS; got it

14:01:02 <JohnArwe> zakim, aaaa is me

John Arwe: zakim, aaaa is me

14:01:02 <Zakim> +JohnArwe; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +JohnArwe; got it

14:01:03 <Zakim> +gavinc

Zakim IRC Bot: +gavinc

14:01:12 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software

Zakim IRC Bot: +OpenLink_Software

14:01:13 <Zakim> +cygri

Zakim IRC Bot: +cygri

14:01:15 <Zakim> + +1.510.698.aacc

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.510.698.aacc

14:01:17 <MacTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me

14:01:17 <Zakim> +MacTed; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +MacTed; got it

14:01:18 <mhausenblas> Zakim, I am mhausenblas

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, I am mhausenblas

14:01:18 <Zakim> sorry, mhausenblas, I do not see a party named 'mhausenblas'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, mhausenblas, I do not see a party named 'mhausenblas'

14:01:18 <dret> zakim, dret is 510

Erik Wilde: zakim, dret is 510

14:01:19 <MacTed> Zakim, mute me

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, mute me

14:01:20 <Zakim> sorry, dret, I do not recognize a party named 'dret'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, dret, I do not recognize a party named 'dret'

14:01:23 <Zakim> MacTed should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: MacTed should now be muted

14:01:27 <mhausenblas> Zakim, cygri really is mhausenblas

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, cygri really is mhausenblas

14:01:27 <Zakim> I don't understand 'cygri really is mhausenblas', mhausenblas

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'cygri really is mhausenblas', mhausenblas

14:01:30 <dret> zalim 510 is dret

Erik Wilde: zalim 510 is dret

14:01:33 <mhausenblas> Zakim, I am cygri

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, I am cygri

14:01:33 <Zakim> ok, mhausenblas, I now associate you with cygri

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, mhausenblas, I now associate you with cygri

14:01:41 <Zakim> + +1.714.454.aadd

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.714.454.aadd

14:01:44 <dret> zakim, 510 is dret

Erik Wilde: zakim, 510 is dret

14:01:48 <Zakim> sorry, dret, I do not recognize a party named '510'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, dret, I do not recognize a party named '510'

14:01:54 <Zakim> +??P16

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P16

14:02:07 <dret> zakim aabb is dret

Erik Wilde: zakim aabb is dret

14:02:10 <oberger> Zakim, ??P16 is me

Olivier Berger: Zakim, ??P16 is me

14:02:13 <mhausenblas> Zakim, cyrgi is me

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, cyrgi is me

14:02:14 <Zakim> +oberger; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +oberger; got it

14:02:16 <Zakim> sorry, mhausenblas, I do not recognize a party named 'cyrgi'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, mhausenblas, I do not recognize a party named 'cyrgi'

14:02:24 <mhausenblas> Zakim, cygri is me

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, cygri is me

14:02:26 <dret> zakim, dret is aabb

Erik Wilde: zakim, dret is aabb

14:02:31 <bblfish> zakim, aacc is me

Henry Story: zakim, aacc is me

14:02:34 <Zakim> +mhausenblas; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +mhausenblas; got it

14:02:36 <Zakim> sorry, dret, I do not recognize a party named 'dret'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, dret, I do not recognize a party named 'dret'

14:02:43 <Zakim> +bblfish; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +bblfish; got it

14:02:51 <Zakim> +Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro

14:02:57 <dret> zakim, aabb is me

Erik Wilde: zakim, aabb is me

14:03:09 <Zakim> +dret; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +dret; got it

14:03:16 <oberger> hmmm.... am I the only one to not hear anything ?

Olivier Berger: hmmm.... am I the only one to not hear anything ?

14:03:30 <Zakim> + +1.617.324.aaee

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.617.324.aaee

14:03:38 <Zakim> +Karl

Zakim IRC Bot: +Karl

14:03:40 <SteveS> oberger: I hear Arnaud and other noise

Olivier Berger: I hear Arnaud and other noise [ Scribe Assist by Steve Speicher ]

14:03:41 <Zakim> - +1.617.324.aaee

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.617.324.aaee

14:03:59 <oberger> noise cancelation at arnaud's ?

Olivier Berger: noise cancelation at arnaud's ?

14:04:11 <Zakim> + +1.617.324.aaff

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.617.324.aaff

14:04:11 <oberger> ok, let's wait

Olivier Berger: ok, let's wait

14:04:36 <Zakim> -Yves

Zakim IRC Bot: -Yves

14:04:53 <rgarcia> zakim, aaee is me

Raúl García Castro: zakim, aaee is me

14:04:54 <Zakim> sorry, rgarcia, I do not recognize a party named 'aaee'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, rgarcia, I do not recognize a party named 'aaee'

14:04:56 <bblfish> hi

Henry Story: hi

14:05:08 <Zakim> -Karl

Zakim IRC Bot: -Karl

14:05:26 <mhausenblas> Zakim, pick a victim

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, pick a victim

14:05:26 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose bblfish

Zakim IRC Bot: Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose bblfish

14:05:31 <Zakim> +??P20

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P20

14:05:37 <bblfish> ah I scribed recently...

Henry Story: ah I scribed recently...

14:05:45 <rgarcia> zakim, ??P20 is me

Raúl García Castro: zakim, ??P20 is me

14:05:45 <Zakim> +rgarcia; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +rgarcia; got it

14:05:51 <mhausenblas> scribenick: mhausenblas

(Scribe set to Michael Hausenblas)

14:06:02 <mhausenblas> Topic: Admin

1. Admin

14:06:02 <Zakim> +??P30

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P30

14:06:22 <mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: Accept meeting minutes from http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/meeting/2012-08-20

PROPOSED: Accept meeting minutes from http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/meeting/2012-08-20

14:06:29 <Zakim> +??P22

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P22

14:06:30 <krp> zakim, ??P30 is me

Kevin Page: zakim, ??P30 is me

14:06:30 <Zakim> +krp; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +krp; got it

14:06:37 <mhausenblas> +1

+1

14:06:39 <ghard> Zakim, ??P22 is me

Yrjana Rankka: Zakim, ??P22 is me

14:06:39 <Zakim> +ghard; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +ghard; got it

14:06:47 <SteveS> +1

Steve Speicher: +1

14:06:53 <oberger> no problem +1

Olivier Berger: no problem +1

14:06:54 <mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: Accept meeting minutes from http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/meeting/2012-08-27

PROPOSED: Accept meeting minutes from http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/meeting/2012-08-27

14:07:14 <mhausenblas> RESOLUTION: Both meeting minutes have been approved by the WG

RESOLVED: Both meeting minutes have been approved by the WG

14:07:27 <mhausenblas> Topic: Tracking of issues and actions

2. Tracking of issues and actions

14:07:39 <mhausenblas>  Issues: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/

Issues: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/

14:07:44 <Zakim> -krp

Zakim IRC Bot: -krp

14:08:00 <Zakim> +Yves

Zakim IRC Bot: +Yves

14:08:07 <mhausenblas> Arnaud: Not sure yet how extensive we gonna use it, but worth having a look at it and record them

Arnaud Le Hors: Not sure yet how extensive we gonna use it, but worth having a look at it and record them

14:08:13 <Zakim> +Ashok_Malhotra

Zakim IRC Bot: +Ashok_Malhotra

14:08:14 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes

RRSAgent, draft minutes

14:08:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-minutes.html mhausenblas

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-minutes.html mhausenblas

14:08:19 <Zakim> -Yves

Zakim IRC Bot: -Yves

14:08:24 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, make logs public

RRSAgent, make logs public

14:08:27 <mhausenblas> q?

q?

14:08:33 <Zakim> +??P30

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P30

14:08:41 <krp> zakim, ??P30 is me

Kevin Page: zakim, ??P30 is me

14:08:41 <Zakim> +krp; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +krp; got it

14:08:44 <Zakim> + +44.208.573.aagg

Zakim IRC Bot: + +44.208.573.aagg

14:08:59 <Zakim> +??P36

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P36

14:09:12 <mhausenblas> Arnaud: Every WG member can raise an issue and once accepted it will be marked as OPEN

Arnaud Le Hors: Every WG member can raise an issue and once accepted it will be marked as OPEN

14:10:24 <RezaBFar> 714.454.aadd is me.  Not sure why Zakim is not recognizing me.

Reza B'Far: 714.454.aadd is me. Not sure why Zakim is not recognizing me.

14:10:37 <MacTed> Zakim, aadd is RezaBFar

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, aadd is RezaBFar

14:10:38 <Zakim> +RezaBFar; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +RezaBFar; got it

14:10:59 <mhausenblas> Arnaud: Let's review actions

Arnaud Le Hors: Let's review actions

14:11:15 <mhausenblas> ACTION-4?

ACTION-4?

14:11:15 <trackbot> ACTION-4 -- Steve Speicher to review SPARQL Graph Store Protocol and suggest how we should move forward with it -- due 2012-09-12 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-4 -- Steve Speicher to review SPARQL Graph Store Protocol and suggest how we should move forward with it -- due 2012-09-12 -- OPEN

14:11:15 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/4

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/4

14:11:22 <bblfish> I sent a mail out

Henry Story: I sent a mail out

14:11:26 <mhausenblas> SteveS: continues - next week, promise

Steve Speicher: continues - next week, promise

14:11:35 <mhausenblas> ACTION-5?

ACTION-5?

14:11:35 <trackbot> ACTION-5 -- Henry Story to add use case for non rdf content addition -- due 2012-07-30 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-5 -- Henry Story to add use case for non rdf content addition -- due 2012-07-30 -- OPEN

14:11:35 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/5

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/5

14:11:44 <Zakim> -krp

Zakim IRC Bot: -krp

14:11:50 <mhausenblas> bblfish: I did send out, yes

Henry Story: I did send out, yes

14:11:54 <oberger> me can't see any note :-/

Olivier Berger: me can't see any note :-/

14:12:09 <oberger> in http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/5

Olivier Berger: in http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/5

14:12:13 <mhausenblas> bblfish: see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2012Sep/0007.html

Henry Story: see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2012Sep/0007.html

14:12:44 <bblfish> ok, will do that right after the call

Henry Story: ok, will do that right after the call

14:12:51 <mhausenblas> close ACTION-5

close ACTION-5

14:12:51 <trackbot> ACTION-5 Add use case for non rdf content addition closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-5 Add use case for non rdf content addition closed

14:12:57 <oberger> mhausenblas, ;-)

Olivier Berger: mhausenblas, ;-)

14:13:55 <bblfish> I can re-word and put in wiki, then others can edit it

Henry Story: I can re-word and put in wiki, then others can edit it

14:14:28 <mhausenblas> ACTION-6?

ACTION-6?

14:14:28 <trackbot> ACTION-6 -- Michael Hausenblas to review SDshare -- due 2012-09-17 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-6 -- Michael Hausenblas to review SDshare -- due 2012-09-17 -- OPEN

14:14:28 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/6

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/6

14:14:35 <bblfish> you're welcome

Henry Story: you're welcome

14:14:46 <mhausenblas> Michael: continues - been on vacation

Michael Hausenblas: continues - been on vacation

14:14:59 <Zakim> +Yves

Zakim IRC Bot: +Yves

14:15:24 <mhausenblas> Michael: Graham Moore offered help, will deliver next week

Michael Hausenblas: Graham Moore offered help, will deliver next week

14:16:05 <mhausenblas> Arnaud: Now we're back to our weekly schedule

Arnaud Le Hors: Now we're back to our weekly schedule

14:16:21 <Zakim> + +1.937.775.aahh

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.937.775.aahh

14:16:44 <Zakim> +??P40

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P40

14:16:53 <mhausenblas> … looking at the charter, the schedule says UCR were due in 07/2012, see http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/charter

… looking at the charter, the schedule says UCR were due in 07/2012, see http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/charter

14:17:09 <mhausenblas> Arnaud: We need to see to catch-up on these actions

Arnaud Le Hors: We need to see to catch-up on these actions

14:17:28 <mhausenblas> Arnaud: FPWD are due for 10/2012

Arnaud Le Hors: FPWD are due for 10/2012

14:17:48 <mhausenblas> … we're slipping behind schedule, so we need to show some progress

… we're slipping behind schedule, so we need to show some progress

14:18:17 <oberger> btw, 1st of november is holiday in France... in case you're coming to Lyon... maybe some disruption of french public services to be expected on location

Olivier Berger: btw, 1st of november is holiday in France... in case you're coming to Lyon... maybe some disruption of french public services to be expected on location

14:18:30 <mhausenblas> Arnaud: We need to have more discussions on the mailing list

Arnaud Le Hors: We need to have more discussions on the mailing list

14:18:32 <oberger> (F2F TPAC)

Olivier Berger: (F2F TPAC)

14:18:34 <Yves> it will be the same service as on a sunday

Yves Lafon: it will be the same service as on a sunday

14:18:41 <mhausenblas> q+ to talk re process

q+ to talk re process

14:18:42 <oberger> Yves, yes

Olivier Berger: Yves, yes

14:18:54 <Zakim> +??P42

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P42

14:18:57 <mhausenblas> Arnaud: Use telecons to resolve difficult issues

Arnaud Le Hors: Use telecons to resolve difficult issues

14:19:01 <mhausenblas> q?

q?

14:19:34 <bblfish> q+

Henry Story: q+

14:19:45 <mhausenblas> q?

q?

14:20:04 <mhausenblas> ack me

ack me

14:20:04 <Zakim> mhausenblas, you wanted to talk re process

Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas, you wanted to talk re process

14:20:30 <Zakim> -??P36

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P36

14:21:26 <mhausenblas> Michael: Agreed re progress but we need to work towards concrete proposals

Michael Hausenblas: Agreed re progress but we need to work towards concrete proposals

14:21:27 <mhausenblas> q?

q?

14:21:45 <Zakim> -??P42

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P42

14:22:21 <mhausenblas> ack bblfish

ack bblfish

14:22:37 <mhausenblas> bblfish: PROPOSAL: Take the Member Submission as a FPWD

Henry Story: PROPOSAL: Take the Member Submission as a FPWD

14:22:53 <mhausenblas> q?

q?

14:23:09 <gavinc> q+ is their an editor/s?

Gavin Carothers: q+ is their an editor/s?

14:23:19 <mhausenblas> q?

q?

14:23:19 <gavinc> q+ to ask if their is an editor/s?

Gavin Carothers: q+ to ask if their is an editor/s?

14:23:20 <SteveS> +1 to PROPOSAL to move submission to working draft

Steve Speicher: +1 to PROPOSAL to move submission to working draft

14:23:39 <mhausenblas> +1 to the  PROPOSAL to move submission to working draft by bblfish

+1 to the PROPOSAL to move submission to working draft by bblfish

14:24:37 <mhausenblas> ack gavinc

ack gavinc

14:24:37 <Zakim> gavinc, you wanted to ask if their is an editor/s?

Zakim IRC Bot: gavinc, you wanted to ask if their is an editor/s?

14:24:49 <SteveS> I have volunteered

Steve Speicher: I have volunteered

14:24:51 <mhausenblas> gavinc: is there an Editor in sight?

Gavin Carothers: is there an Editor in sight?

14:24:59 <mhausenblas> +1

+1

14:25:06 <mhausenblas> Michael: +1 for editor

Michael Hausenblas: +1 for editor

14:25:21 <JohnArwe> I can also help

John Arwe: I can also help

14:25:26 <bblfish> It's always better to have 2 people :-)

Henry Story: It's always better to have 2 people :-)

14:25:47 <mhausenblas> Michael: Happy to chime in as well

Michael Hausenblas: Happy to chime in as well

14:25:56 <oberger> obviously it is if we fallback on using the proposal as a draft ;)

Olivier Berger: obviously it is if we fallback on using the proposal as a draft ;)

14:26:10 <mhausenblas> q?

q?

14:26:13 <oberger> (looking like IBM alone ;)

Olivier Berger: (looking like IBM alone ;)

14:26:46 <oberger> mhausenblas, our messages crossed eachother

Olivier Berger: mhausenblas, our messages crossed eachother

14:27:14 <bblfish> it's better to have somtehitng to start where we can say: passage x, or y needs to be changed....

Henry Story: it's better to have somtehitng to start where we can say: passage x, or y needs to be changed....

14:27:59 <bblfish> respec is cool

Henry Story: respec is cool

14:28:04 <gavinc> respec!

Gavin Carothers: respec!

14:28:12 <bblfish> http://webid.info/spec/ used it

Henry Story: http://webid.info/spec/ used it

14:28:22 <gavinc> http://dev.w3.org/2009/dap/ReSpec.js/documentation.html

Gavin Carothers: http://dev.w3.org/2009/dap/ReSpec.js/documentation.html

14:28:36 <Zakim> -ghard

Zakim IRC Bot: -ghard

14:28:41 <oberger> git

Olivier Berger: git

14:28:41 <Zakim> -RezaBFar

Zakim IRC Bot: -RezaBFar

14:29:02 <oberger> that one could be controversial topic for discussion ;)

Olivier Berger: that one could be controversial topic for discussion ;)

14:29:10 <bblfish> you can use github, and sync with mercurial

Henry Story: you can use github, and sync with mercurial

14:29:21 <gavinc> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/linked-data/ ... is that us?

Gavin Carothers: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/linked-data/ ... is that us?

14:29:22 <mhausenblas> Sandro++ for git

Sandro++ for git

14:29:29 <gavinc> doesn't look like it?

Gavin Carothers: doesn't look like it?

14:29:29 <oberger> is there a DVCS with a REST API ?

Olivier Berger: is there a DVCS with a REST API ?

14:29:39 <mhausenblas> no, gavinc

no, gavinc

14:30:03 <gavinc> then, no I don't see an hg repo

Gavin Carothers: then, no I don't see an hg repo

14:30:09 <Yves> not us

Yves Lafon: not us

14:30:14 <mhausenblas> likewise

likewise

14:30:27 <bblfish> this is the webid mercurial http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/WebID

Henry Story: this is the webid mercurial http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/WebID

14:30:45 <Yves> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg has all the repo

Yves Lafon: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg has all the repo

14:30:50 <mhausenblas> ACTION: SteveS to publish member submission as FPWD with support of JohnArwe and mhausenblas

ACTION: SteveS to publish member submission as FPWD with support of JohnArwe and mhausenblas

14:30:50 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - SteveS

Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, couldn't find user - SteveS

14:31:00 <oberger> do we have/need consensus on that next action ?

Olivier Berger: do we have/need consensus on that next action ?

14:31:12 <ghard> Lost connect. Zakim keeps telling me the conference code's not valid.

Yrjana Rankka: Lost connect. Zakim keeps telling me the conference code's not valid.

14:31:13 <mhausenblas> ACTION: sspeiche to publish member submission as FPWD with support of JohnArwe and mhausenblas

ACTION: sspeiche to publish member submission as FPWD with support of JohnArwe and mhausenblas

14:31:13 <trackbot> Created ACTION-10 - Publish member submission as FPWD with support of JohnArwe and mhausenblas  [on Steve Speicher - due 2012-09-17].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-10 - Publish member submission as FPWD with support of JohnArwe and mhausenblas [on Steve Speicher - due 2012-09-17].

14:31:23 <gavinc> uh

Gavin Carothers: uh

14:31:38 <gavinc> That action seems a bit strong ;)

Gavin Carothers: That action seems a bit strong ;)

14:31:51 <bblfish> +1

Henry Story: +1

14:31:54 <gavinc> I think we were looking for a draft of a FPWD?

Gavin Carothers: I think we were looking for a draft of a FPWD?

14:32:01 <mhausenblas> RESOLUTION: to move submission to working draft

RESOLVED: to move submission to working draft

14:32:04 <gavinc> not to publish it before anyone has seen it or it's been written?

Gavin Carothers: not to publish it before anyone has seen it or it's been written?

14:32:08 <MacTed> yah; that was "convert member submission to working draft"

Ted Thibodeau: yah; that was "convert member submission to working draft"

14:32:14 <gavinc> Ah okay :D

Gavin Carothers: Ah okay :D

14:32:45 <JohnArwe> if yves needs my w3c id for setting up ACLS, it is jarwe

John Arwe: if yves needs my w3c id for setting up ACLS, it is jarwe

14:33:03 <MacTed> action 10?

Ted Thibodeau: ACTION-10?

14:33:03 <trackbot> Sorry, bad ACTION syntax

Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, bad ACTION syntax

14:33:10 <MacTed> action-10?

Ted Thibodeau: ACTION-10?

14:33:10 <trackbot> ACTION-10 -- Steve Speicher to publish member submission as FPWD with support of JohnArwe and mhausenblas -- due 2012-09-17 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-10 -- Steve Speicher to publish member submission as FPWD with support of JohnArwe and mhausenblas -- due 2012-09-17 -- OPEN

14:33:10 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/10

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/10

14:33:14 <mhausenblas> Michael: Correct, it is initially an Editors Draft that, given WG approval will be turned into a FPWD

Michael Hausenblas: Correct, it is initially an Editors Draft that, given WG approval will be turned into a FPWD

14:33:19 <Yves> John, I'll check what is needed for dvcs, but it should be ok as long as you have a w3c id

Yves Lafon: John, I'll check what is needed for dvcs, but it should be ok as long as you have a w3c id

14:33:51 <mhausenblas> q?

q?

14:34:20 <MacTed> action-10?

Ted Thibodeau: ACTION-10?

14:34:20 <trackbot> ACTION-10 -- Steve Speicher to convert member submission to Editor's Draft, with support of JohnArwe and mhausenblas -- due 2012-09-17 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-10 -- Steve Speicher to convert member submission to Editor's Draft, with support of JohnArwe and mhausenblas -- due 2012-09-17 -- OPEN

14:34:20 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/10

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/10

14:34:51 <gavinc> Tracking and then nice little ISSUE notes in the document?

Gavin Carothers: Tracking and then nice little ISSUE notes in the document?

14:35:09 <Yves> repo should appear at https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg

Yves Lafon: repo should appear at https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg

14:35:29 <mhausenblas> Michael: Thanks Yves!

Michael Hausenblas: Thanks Yves!

14:35:30 <gavinc> thanks Yves

Gavin Carothers: thanks Yves

14:35:39 <Yves> writable by all wg members

Yves Lafon: writable by all wg members

14:35:45 <mhausenblas> Michael: Can take care of creating the products in tracker

Michael Hausenblas: Can take care of creating the products in tracker

14:35:54 <oberger> you mean, providing code ?

Olivier Berger: you mean, providing code ?

14:36:10 <gavinc> or "this is bad and fixing it is really hard"?

Gavin Carothers: or "this is bad and fixing it is really hard"?

14:36:19 <MacTed> +1 gavinc

Ted Thibodeau: +1 gavinc

14:36:23 <Arnaud> q?

Arnaud Le Hors: q?

14:37:11 <mhausenblas> Michael: The products are now in place , see https://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/products

Michael Hausenblas: The products are now in place , see https://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/products

14:37:41 <mhausenblas> Michael: I suggest, from now on, please everyone, tag your issue and or action with one of the products - helps also the chairs

Michael Hausenblas: I suggest, from now on, please everyone, tag your issue and or action with one of the products - helps also the chairs

14:37:45 <mhausenblas> q?

q?

14:38:04 <mhausenblas> sandro: FPWD should be published before TPAC

Sandro Hawke: FPWD should be published before TPAC

14:38:18 <mhausenblas> PROPOSAL:  FPWD should be published before TPAC

PROPOSED: FPWD should be published before TPAC

14:38:23 <mhausenblas> Michael: +1

Michael Hausenblas: +1

14:38:26 <mhausenblas> q?

q?

14:38:37 <SteveS> +1, was what I was thinking as well

Steve Speicher: +1, was what I was thinking as well

14:38:40 <gavinc> +0.9 (Not an editor, thus not +1 ;) )

Gavin Carothers: +0.9 (Not an editor, thus not +1 ;) )

14:38:55 <mhausenblas> Arnaud: Any objections?

Arnaud Le Hors: Any objections?

14:38:57 <bblfish> seems good to me

Henry Story: seems good to me

14:38:58 <mhausenblas> ack Yves

ack Yves

14:39:14 <mhausenblas> Yves: The FPWD need not be perfect

Yves Lafon: The FPWD need not be perfect

14:39:20 <mhausenblas> Michael: +1000000000000

Michael Hausenblas: +1000000000000

14:39:23 <oberger> release early, release often

Olivier Berger: release early, release often

14:39:24 <Zakim> -Ashok_Malhotra

Zakim IRC Bot: -Ashok_Malhotra

14:39:26 <bblfish> +1

Henry Story: +1

14:39:31 <Arnaud> q?

Arnaud Le Hors: q?

14:39:36 <MacTed> Zakim, unmute me

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, unmute me

14:39:36 <Zakim> MacTed should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: MacTed should no longer be muted

14:40:09 <mhausenblas> MacTed: Is that check with publication moratoriums, etc

Ted Thibodeau: Is that check with publication moratoriums, etc

14:40:25 <mhausenblas> Arnaud: Agreed. Chairs and team contact will check

Arnaud Le Hors: Agreed. Chairs and team contact will check

14:40:51 <sandro> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2012AprJun/0093.html

Sandro Hawke: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2012AprJun/0093.html

14:40:57 <sandro> Publishing moratoria second half of 2012

Sandro Hawke: Publishing moratoria second half of 2012

14:41:18 <mhausenblas> Michael: No publications the week of 29 October due to TPAC 2012:

Michael Hausenblas: No publications the week of 29 October due to TPAC 2012:

14:41:24 <gavinc> October 29th, till...?

Gavin Carothers: October 29th, till...?

14:41:24 <oberger> sandro, may I ask what that is ?

Olivier Berger: sandro, may I ask what that is ?

14:43:11 <mhausenblas> sandro: let everyon review and raise issues

Sandro Hawke: let everyon review and raise issues

14:43:17 <Yves> <<

Yves Lafon: <<

14:43:19 <Yves> Entrance criteria: The Chair MUST record the group's decision to request advancement. Since this is the first time that a document with this short name appears in the Technical Reports index, Director approval is REQUIRED for the transition.

Yves Lafon: Entrance criteria: The Chair MUST record the group's decision to request advancement. Since this is the first time that a document with this short name appears in the Technical Reports index, Director approval is REQUIRED for the transition.

14:43:19 <mhausenblas> q+ to propose reviewing process

q+ to propose reviewing process

14:43:20 <Yves> >>

Yves Lafon: >>

14:43:29 <mhausenblas> q?

q?

14:43:41 <mhausenblas> ack me

ack me

14:43:41 <Zakim> mhausenblas, you wanted to propose reviewing process

Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas, you wanted to propose reviewing process

14:45:03 <sandro> mhausenblas: Let the chairs set a deadline by which time everyone has to RAISE any issues they have with the submission/fpwd

Michael Hausenblas: Let the chairs set a deadline by which time everyone has to RAISE any issues they have with the submission/fpwd [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

14:45:04 <mhausenblas> q?

q?

14:45:06 <sandro> +1

Sandro Hawke: +1

14:45:30 <mhausenblas> Michel: Suggest some 4 weeks WG-internal review period in which WG members can raise issues once ED is available

Michael Hausenblas: Suggest some 4 weeks WG-internal review period in which WG members can raise issues once ED is available

14:45:51 <mhausenblas> s/Michel/Michael
14:45:53 <dret> ACTION: chairs should define a timeline for working on the editor's draft and the FPWG

ACTION: chairs should define a timeline for working on the editor's draft and the FPWG

14:45:53 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - chairs

Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, couldn't find user - chairs

14:45:53 <mhausenblas> RESOLUTION: WG resolves that the FPWD should be published before TPAC

RESOLVED: WG resolves that the FPWD should be published before TPAC

14:46:12 <mhausenblas> SteveS: two action items really: create ED first and then resolve FPWD

Steve Speicher: two action items really: create ED first and then resolve FPWD

14:46:59 <oberger> and we're discussing things that weren't really on the agenda initially ?

Olivier Berger: and we're discussing things that weren't really on the agenda initially ?

14:47:07 <dret> ACTION: Arnaud and dret define a timeline for working on the editor's draft and the FPWG

ACTION: Arnaud and dret define a timeline for working on the editor's draft and the FPWG

14:47:07 <trackbot> Created ACTION-11 - And dret define a timeline for working on the editor's draft and the FPWG [on Arnaud Le Hors - due 2012-09-17].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-11 - And dret define a timeline for working on the editor's draft and the FPWG [on Arnaud Le Hors - due 2012-09-17].

14:47:14 <oberger> of today's meeting I mean

Olivier Berger: of today's meeting I mean

14:47:18 <oberger> just in case

Olivier Berger: just in case

14:47:37 <JohnArwe> if you are using those "shared actions" to keep them on people's radar, since they get reviewed at the start of each mtg, not seeing the harm.  true that editors could not unilaterally fulfill action, but we humans know that.

John Arwe: if you are using those "shared actions" to keep them on people's radar, since they get reviewed at the start of each mtg, not seeing the harm. true that editors could not unilaterally fulfill action, but we humans know that.

14:48:30 <Arnaud> q?

Arnaud Le Hors: q?

14:48:37 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes

RRSAgent, draft minutes

14:48:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-minutes.html mhausenblas

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14:48:40 <bblfish> perhaps just make the chair responsible, and rephrase it: The chair opens discussion on the pre-published draft, and leaves 2-3 weeks for the questions before closing

Henry Story: perhaps just make the chair responsible, and rephrase it: The chair opens discussion on the pre-published draft, and leaves 2-3 weeks for the questions before closing

14:48:49 <sandro> sandro: step 1: editors turn submission into ED;   step 2: each member of the WG raises all the issues they care about;    step 3: editors make sure those issues are listed in the ED and get it publisehd as FPD.

Sandro Hawke: step 1: editors turn submission into ED; step 2: each member of the WG raises all the issues they care about; step 3: editors make sure those issues are listed in the ED and get it publisehd as FPWD. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

14:48:57 <sandro> s/FPD/FPWD
14:49:01 <mhausenblas> Topic: Next meeting and F2F

3. Next meeting and F2F

14:49:23 <mhausenblas> Arnaud: Next meeting is on September 17, 2012

Arnaud Le Hors: Next meeting is on September 17, 2012

14:49:29 <bblfish> I have not registered, but count me in

Henry Story: I have not registered, but count me in

14:49:32 <mhausenblas> Arnaud: Please register at http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/F2F1

Arnaud Le Hors: Please register at http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/F2F1

14:49:39 <bblfish> ah

Henry Story: ah

14:49:46 <sandro> bblfish, we can't count you in until you've paid.

Sandro Hawke: bblfish, we can't count you in until you've paid.

14:49:49 <mhausenblas> chair: Arnaud
14:49:53 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes

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14:49:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-minutes.html mhausenblas

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14:50:39 <bblfish> ok, added myself to http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/F2F1#Participants

Henry Story: ok, added myself to http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/F2F1#Participants

14:51:02 <bblfish> ah, ok. got to pay too then

Henry Story: ah, ok. got to pay too then

14:51:20 <Arnaud> q?

Arnaud Le Hors: q?

14:51:36 <MacTed> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2012Sep/0001.html

Ted Thibodeau: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2012Sep/0001.html

14:52:16 <mhausenblas> Arnaud: Assuming everyone is happy with the proposed way to go by Steve Battle, see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2012Sep/0001.html

Arnaud Le Hors: Assuming everyone is happy with the proposed way to go by Steve Battle, see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2012Sep/0001.html

14:52:30 <sandro> Not sure the ACL's on this page, but TPAC registration shows up here: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2012/registrants#LDP        Seven attendees, two observers, so far.

Sandro Hawke: Not sure the ACL's on this page, but TPAC registration shows up here: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2012/registrants#LDP Seven attendees, two observers, so far.

14:52:41 <mhausenblas> Arnaud: No objections, so we assume we move on with this

Arnaud Le Hors: No objections, so we assume we move on with this

14:52:54 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes

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14:53:44 <mhausenblas> Topic: Use Cases and Requirements

4. Use Cases and Requirements

14:53:55 <mhausenblas> (scribe was sleeping, should really have been above)

(scribe was sleeping, should really have been above)

14:54:03 <mhausenblas> Topic: Serialization formats

5. Serialization formats

14:54:11 <mhausenblas> ISSUE-1?

ISSUE-1?

14:54:11 <trackbot> ISSUE-1 -- Determine minimum serialization format for RDF data model -- raised

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-1 -- Determine minimum serialization format for RDF data model -- raised

14:54:11 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/1

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/1

14:54:41 <mhausenblas> Arnaud: Seems we have wide agreement re Turtle

Arnaud Le Hors: Seems we have wide agreement re Turtle

14:54:58 <gavinc> q+ to recommend that this WG review Turtle before the end of it's Last Call period

Gavin Carothers: q+ to recommend that this WG review Turtle before the end of it's Last Call period

14:55:09 <mhausenblas> q?

q?

14:55:25 <mhausenblas> ack gavinc

ack gavinc

14:55:25 <Zakim> gavinc, you wanted to recommend that this WG review Turtle before the end of it's Last Call period

Zakim IRC Bot: gavinc, you wanted to recommend that this WG review Turtle before the end of it's Last Call period

14:55:44 <mhausenblas> gavinc: With my Turtle Editors hat on, I support Turtle as the default

Gavin Carothers: With my Turtle Editors hat on, I support Turtle as the default

14:55:53 <mhausenblas> … LC for Turtle ends soon

… LC for Turtle ends soon

14:55:58 <mhausenblas> … comments are welcome

… comments are welcome

14:55:59 <bblfish> ah it would be great to have = in turtle for owl:sameAs

Henry Story: ah it would be great to have = in turtle for owl:sameAs

14:56:04 <mhausenblas> Michael: +1 to use Turtle

Michael Hausenblas: +1 to use Turtle

14:56:05 <gavinc> http://www.w3.org/TR/turtle/

Gavin Carothers: http://www.w3.org/TR/turtle/

14:56:22 <oberger> http://www.w3.org/blog/SW/2012/07/13/rdf-working-group-publishes-turtle-as-last-call-working-draft/

Olivier Berger: http://www.w3.org/blog/SW/2012/07/13/rdf-working-group-publishes-turtle-as-last-call-working-draft/

14:56:57 <mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: The WG decides to use RDF Turtle as the minimum serialization format

PROPOSED: The WG decides to use RDF Turtle as the minimum serialization format

14:57:10 <SteveS> +1

Steve Speicher: +1

14:57:11 <gavinc> +1 Yay Turtle

Gavin Carothers: +1 Yay Turtle

14:57:20 <mhausenblas> Michael: +1

Michael Hausenblas: +1

14:57:31 <bblfish> +1 it's especially useful to have turtle in the examples in the spec

Henry Story: +1 it's especially useful to have turtle in the examples in the spec

14:57:32 <MacTed> +1

Ted Thibodeau: +1

14:57:36 <rgarcia> +1

Raúl García Castro: +1

14:57:39 <dret> +1

Erik Wilde: +1

14:57:42 <jkopecky> +1 for turtle

Jacek Kopecky: +1 for turtle

14:57:43 <oberger> +1 same as bblfish

Olivier Berger: +1 same as bblfish

14:57:44 <bblfish> ( rdf/xml is completely not understandable )

Henry Story: ( rdf/xml is completely not understandable )

14:58:21 <mhausenblas> Roger: I support RDF Turtle, JSON is also good

Roger Menday: I support RDF Turtle, JSON is also good

14:58:33 <jkopecky> is RDF/JSON useful without code wrapping? If not, no diff from turtle

Jacek Kopecky: is RDF/JSON useful without code wrapping? If not, no diff from turtle

14:58:34 <Kalpa> +1 for turtle

Kalpa Gunaratna: +1 for turtle

14:58:36 <dret> we should have a few required formats as possible (for interop)

Erik Wilde: we should hasve as few required formasts ass possible (for interop)

14:58:44 <dret> s/a/as/
14:58:48 <mhausenblas> Michael: +1 to dret

Michael Hausenblas: +1 to dret

15:00:01 <mhausenblas> q?

q?

15:00:02 <bblfish> I think we should definitely allow other formats om tje longer run. (perhaps there should be some documentation in there)

Henry Story: I think we should definitely allow other formats om tje longer run. (perhaps there should be some documentation in there)

15:00:03 <SteveS> Sounds like: Turtle = MUST, JSON-LD = SHOULD

Steve Speicher: Sounds like: Turtle = MUST, JSON-LD = SHOULD

15:00:17 <bblfish> SteveS: +1

Steve Speicher: +1 [ Scribe Assist by Henry Story ]

15:00:18 <sandro> +1 for turtle as a minimum

Sandro Hawke: +1 for turtle as a minimum

15:00:22 <oberger> and RDF/XML : shouldn't ?

Olivier Berger: and RDF/XML : shouldn't ?

15:00:35 <SteveS> oberger: RDF/XML maybe just unsaid

Olivier Berger: RDF/XML maybe just unsaid [ Scribe Assist by Steve Speicher ]

15:00:42 <JohnArwe> +1 turtle

John Arwe: +1 turtle

15:00:43 <dret> i like the MUST/SHOULD (recommended supported serializations) approach

Erik Wilde: i like the MUST/SHOULD (recommended supported serializations) approach

15:00:51 <oberger> SteveS, it seems so unpopular, that we might as well take a stance ? ;)

Olivier Berger: SteveS, it seems so unpopular, that we might as well take a stance ? ;)

15:01:18 <SteveS> oberger: my OSLC hat on, it will be a hard sell

Olivier Berger: my OSLC hat on, it will be a hard sell [ Scribe Assist by Steve Speicher ]

15:01:22 <gavinc> We *MUST* allow other formats, but I don't think we should require more than one

Gavin Carothers: We *MUST* allow other formats, but I don't think we should require more than one

15:01:39 <oberger> Eclipse... Lyo ;)

Olivier Berger: Eclipse... Lyo ;)

15:01:42 <bblfish> yes SHOULD for RDF?XML

Henry Story: yes SHOULD for RDF?XML

15:01:42 <sandro> Arnaud: We might still REQUIRE or RECOMMEND other formats, although I agree one is probably best

Arnaud Le Hors: We might still REQUIRE or RECOMMEND other formats, although I agree one is probably best [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

15:01:54 <dret> agreed to Arnaus, 1 is the best number, 2 may be acceptable, anything bigger is probably not a good idea for interop

Erik Wilde: agreed to Arnaus, 1 is the best number, 2 may be acceptable, anything bigger is probably not a good idea for interop

15:02:02 <mhausenblas> RESOLUTION: The WG decides to use RDF Turtle as the minimum serialization format

RESOLVED: The WG decides to use RDF Turtle as the minimum serialization format

15:02:10 <bblfish> agree +1 for now Turtle is a MUST

Henry Story: agree +1 for now Turtle is a MUST

15:02:14 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes

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15:02:21 <sandro> +1 arnaud chairing today!   :-)

Sandro Hawke: +1 arnaud chairing today! :-)

15:02:24 <bblfish> :)

Henry Story: :)

15:02:28 <dret> thanks everybody!

Erik Wilde: thanks everybody!

15:02:39 <Zakim> -bblfish

Zakim IRC Bot: -bblfish

15:02:39 <gavinc> Please please please review http://www.w3.org/TR/turtle/ or the edited ED http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-turtle/index.html#

Gavin Carothers: Please please please review http://www.w3.org/TR/turtle/ or the edited ED http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-turtle/index.html#

15:02:51 <oberger> bye

Olivier Berger: bye

15:02:55 <mhausenblas> (meeting adjourned)

(meeting adjourned)

15:02:58 <Zakim> -Yves

Zakim IRC Bot: -Yves

15:03:00 <Zakim> -SteveS

Zakim IRC Bot: -SteveS

15:03:00 <Zakim> -Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro

15:03:00 <Zakim> -dret

Zakim IRC Bot: -dret

15:03:01 <Zakim> -mhausenblas

Zakim IRC Bot: -mhausenblas

15:03:01 <Zakim> -rgarcia

Zakim IRC Bot: -rgarcia

15:03:03 <Zakim> - +44.208.573.aagg

Zakim IRC Bot: - +44.208.573.aagg

15:03:04 <Zakim> -gavinc

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15:03:06 <Zakim> -MacTed

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15:03:07 <Zakim> -Arnaud

Zakim IRC Bot: -Arnaud

15:03:10 <Zakim> -oberger

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15:03:11 <Zakim> - +1.937.775.aahh

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15:03:13 <Zakim> -jkopecky

Zakim IRC Bot: -jkopecky

15:03:34 <Kalpa> zakim aahh is me

Kalpa Gunaratna: zakim aahh is me

15:03:37 <Zakim> -JohnArwe

Zakim IRC Bot: -JohnArwe

15:03:38 <Zakim> SW_LDP()10:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: SW_LDP()10:00AM has ended

15:03:38 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.845.433.aaaa, Arnaud, +1.510.206.aabb, SteveS, JohnArwe, gavinc, +1.510.698.aacc, MacTed, +1.714.454.aadd, oberger, mhausenblas, bblfish, Sandro, dret,

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were +1.845.433.aaaa, Arnaud, +1.510.206.aabb, SteveS, JohnArwe, gavinc, +1.510.698.aacc, MacTed, +1.714.454.aadd, oberger, mhausenblas, bblfish, Sandro, dret,

15:03:38 <Zakim> ... +1.617.324.aaee, Karl, +1.617.324.aaff, Yves, rgarcia, krp, ghard, Ashok_Malhotra, +44.208.573.aagg, RezaBFar, +1.937.775.aahh, jkopecky

Zakim IRC Bot: ... +1.617.324.aaee, Karl, +1.617.324.aaff, Yves, rgarcia, krp, ghard, Ashok_Malhotra, +44.208.573.aagg, RezaBFar, +1.937.775.aahh, jkopecky

15:25:22 <mhausenblas> trackbot, end telecon

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15:25:22 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees

Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, list attendees

15:25:22 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is

15:25:30 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes

Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, please draft minutes

15:25:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-minutes.html trackbot

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-minutes.html trackbot

15:25:31 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye

Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, bye

15:25:31 <RRSAgent> I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-actions.rdf :

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-actions.rdf :

15:25:31 <RRSAgent> ACTION: SteveS to publish member submission as FPWD with support of JohnArwe and mhausenblas  [1]

ACTION: SteveS to publish member submission as FPWD with support of JohnArwe and mhausenblas [1]

15:25:31 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-irc#T14-30-50

RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-irc#T14-30-50

15:25:31 <RRSAgent> ACTION: sspeiche to publish member submission as FPWD with support of JohnArwe and mhausenblas  [2]

ACTION: sspeiche to publish member submission as FPWD with support of JohnArwe and mhausenblas [2]

15:25:31 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-irc#T14-31-13

RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-irc#T14-31-13

15:25:31 <RRSAgent> ACTION: chairs should define a timeline for working on the editor's draft and the FPWG [3]

ACTION: chairs should define a timeline for working on the editor's draft and the FPWG [3]

15:25:31 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-irc#T14-45-53

RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-irc#T14-45-53

15:25:31 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Arnaud and dret define a timeline for working on the editor's draft and the FPWG [4]

ACTION: Arnaud and dret define a timeline for working on the editor's draft and the FPWG [4]

15:25:31 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-irc#T14-47-07

RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/10-ldp-irc#T14-47-07



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