Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference -- 08 Nov 2012

<trackbot> Date: 08 November 2012

<olyerickson> mute me

<scribe> Meeting: G:D WG Weekly call 8 Nov 2012

<bhyland> Today's agenda, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20121108

<cygri> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20121108

<cygri> meeting: GLD-WG Weekly Call, 8 Nov 2012

<scribe> scribe: PhilA2

<scribe> scribeNick: PhilA2

<cygri> sandro, can you associate agipap's nick with his user account? Agis Papantoniou

<sandro> Almeida, Joao Paulo (profile)

Jo�o Paulo's intro -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2012Oct/0097.html

And our new member's full name is Jo�o Paulo Andrade Almeida

<mhausenblas> :)

Makx: Hi - are you calling in via Skype? If so I know who the IPCaller is... ;-)

<bhyland> Last meetings minutes: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2012-10-25

<bhyland> Please review to confirm & accept ...

<mhausenblas> +1

<fadmaa> +1

<bhyland> +1

<gatemezin> +1

<agipap> +1

<bhyland> New GLD WG members please introduce yourself ...

RESOLVED Minutes of 25 October accepted

Makx Dekkers' introduction -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2012Nov/0003.html

TPAC review

Relevant blog posts at http://storify.com/w3cteam/tpac2012-see-sketch-and-fun, http://3roundstones.com/2012/11/08/tpac-2012-liberte-and-the-open-web-platform/ and http://3roundstones.com/2012/11/08/tpac-2012-4-days-of-open-web-standards-nouvelle-cuisine/

bhyland: It was a great event
... I posted an exec summary http://3roundstones.com/2012/11/08/tpac-2012-liberte-and-the-open-web-platform/
... great event in a terrific location

<cygri> agipap, can you go to http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/users and enter your nickname? makes it easier for the sribe, otherwise they have to clean up the minutes manually each time

<agipap> of course

bhyland: great to see how many people with various impairments were able to fully participate and move around
... I got there a day early thanks to Sandy (boy that was a strong wind) but it meant I was able to get to the developers' event

<bhyland> Developers Meetup in Lyon, agenda: http://www.w3.org/2012/10/TPAC/meetup-Lyon.html

bhyland: Majority of people were on the floor as the room was so full. So many people enagaged in watching saeries of quick demos
... powered through loads of demos. Most inspiring was standards compliant Galaxy operating System
... I think it's Mozilla who have developed this very impressive OS for mobile devices
... please let knkw know if you can't get to any of those pages etc.
... then day by day blog is at http://3roundstones.com/2012/11/08/tpac-2012-4-days-of-open-web-standards-nouvelle-cuisine/
... I stopped by the RDF WG that cygri is in. Impressed by the meeting. Shows the importance of the charter/WG process etc.

<agipap> nickname fixed

bhyland: I popped into Web ID group
... that had more people than the RDF WG and had more of a start up feel
... if you're not familiar with Community Groups then make yourself so. http://www.w3.org/community/

sandro: CGs can be started by any 5 people (member or not)
... if it works well then it can grow into becoming a WG
... Business Groups cost money to join and are for vertical industries

bhyland: More than 100 CGs have spring up since Aug 2011 with over 1900 participants. Lots from members but majority are not

sandro: I'm not sure of their level of activity
... Some I suspect are inactive, others, like the one you saw at TPAC, are very active
... A great deashboard feature would be the number of action items that have been closed

bhyland: Riffs on the general status and munificence of W3C
... Marilyn got me into a group to discuss perceived benefits of membership
... Very professional marketing strategy.
... I found myself sitting next to major marketing and software companies. They like W3C, the brains trust etc.
... Lots of W3C staff in the Gov Linked Data session I ran
... lots of folk from governments from around the world in that session
... there are details in the blog, especially the themes that emerged

<bhyland> Emphasize flexibility & agility. Data interoperability is 20% technology and 80% about organization dynamics — politics and emotions (credit: Bart)

<bhyland> Common problem is overwhelming government officials with tech speak. Consider having a template from which internal champions can pull language:

<bhyland> • Financial benefits

<bhyland> • Social responsibility benefits

<bhyland> • Legal & regulatory benefits

<bhyland> • Technical benefits

bhyland: Communication of the value proposition to government departments was highlighted by Judy Brewer who offered template wording that can be used

<bhyland> From Brazilian university community

Giancarlo: worked on conceptual modelling, ontology development, recent work on gov applications

<jpalmeida> Giancarlo Guizzardi is my colleague at the Federal University of Espírito Santo, Brazil

<jpalmeida> we're with the Ontology and Conceptual Modelling Research Group

<bhyland> I concluded my TPAC meetings with an enjoyable meeting with Secretary Delfino Natal de Souza of the Ministry of Planning and two Brazil office staff who participate in the W3C Government Linked Data Working Group.

<jpalmeida> yes

cygri: I agree with what you've been saying. It was my first TPAC too. Very interesting event
... For anyone that spends time on W3C stuff it's highly recommended. You see how other groups are working and you get to meet real people behind the mailing list
... Good to see how the really big groups (CSS, HTML) handle their processes

bhyland: HTML5 WG has 200+ people signed up with 75 active - that's a lot...
... We have a great WG here in GLD, we should be proud
... The RDF WG was being very methodical cf. other less focussed groups

PhilA2: Notes that HTML chairs are more or less Full Time on that job and we have extra paid editors to support them

<bhyland> 99% chance that next TPAC will be in China in Nov 2013

bhyland: I left with a heightened sense of importance of W3C as a standards body. Grounded, well established etc.

PhilA2: Wants to shout the name Alexandra Lavirotte who is the primary person to whom congrats are due for the success of TPAC

<bhyland> UK Gov't Linked Data WG was held on 5-Nov-2012 was http://data.gov.uk/linked-data/UKGovLD

UK Gov't Linked Data WG

<bhyland> Backed by members of staff of local ministry, they provided the venue & support for the event.

<bhyland> Participants were both public & private sector people.

<bhyland> Per PhilA2, they discussed … vocabularies, best practices. About 40-50 people in the room. About 20 are likely to be active and the usual suspects hopefully will continue to do the heavy lifting … but hope more will join/support their efforts!

UK Gov LD WG mailing list http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ukgovld/

<bhyland> PhilA2 offered the use of W3C infrastructure to facilitate discussions...

<bhyland> RE: TPAC 2012 GLD breakout, We discussed approaches to resolve the “http://www.theodi.org/blog/four-challenges-open-data” as described by Jeni Tennison who attended the session.

bhyland: Jeni was at TPAC. She and I and Hadley discussed various things on her blog

<cygri> jpalmeida, could you please go to http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/users and add your IRC nickname there? this helps the scribe, otherwise the scribe needs to manually add it in the minutes every week :-)

Agenda Planning

PhilA2: My strong suggestion for date/p[lace for meeting is http://2013.data-forum.eu/

bhyland: Does anyone have suggestions for f2f timing etc.

<BartvanLeeuwen> PhilA2, +1

<mhausenblas> +1 to EDF but we had Ireland already ;)

<mhausenblas> Michael: Speaking as one of the General Chairs of this event

<bhyland> Yeah! Dublin in April :-)

<gatemezin> But what about 2 times Ireland?

<bhyland> PhilA highly encouraged this as a colocation meeting venue/time for the GLD WG

cygri: I remember we talked about a Google hangout this year

<mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Open_Days

<mhausenblas> Michael: but that's really the open office hours

<Zakim> cygri, you wanted to ask about Google Hangout thing that people were talking about

<gatemezin> Doodle : http://doodle.com/9q4bcgp87t862amr

bhyland: There was such a discussion, yes...

PhilA2: I thought we'd settled on Thursday 6 Dec

bhyland: Well then let's make it so
... Does anyone from the US want to comment on US travel likelihoods to get to Dublin

Mike_Pendleton: There's no way I could get support to go over seas

<bhyland> … No support for overseas travel.

tinagheen: +1 to Mike_Pendleton

mhausenblas: We can get from Galway to Dublin, yes

<jpalmeida> for some reason I've dropped out

<bhyland> PhilA re-iterated that F2F meetings are challenging with travel restrictions but really important. We need to ensure people who cannot travel can participate.

BenediktKaempgen: I would like to come to Galway or Dublin, yes, if I can. Google Hangout - definitely

bhyland: There are people who have faded away from the WG because they're busy doing other things that it would be good to have back
... To new people, I hope we can quickly find something for you to get your teeth into

<Zakim> BartvanLeeuwen, you wanted to ask about isa core vocab status

BartvanLeeuwen: On agenda planning - something I'd like on an agenda... there was some discussion about the ISA core vocs and the w3.org namespace...

<sandro> (sorry, back -- had to drop off for a minute -- in person interruption)

<jpalmeida> I'm back

ISA Programme Vocabs

<bhyland> PhilA: Status of W3 namespace and approval to FPWS is dependent upon this group. They are actively on the "front burner"

<sandro> at iswc

BartvanLeeuwen: Next week is ISWC so can we discuss those vocabs in 2 weeks' time?

<BartvanLeeuwen> at iswc

<GofShu> an i am

bhyland: Who is at ISWC next week then?

<gatemezin> +1 to be there

bhyland: More than 4... I'll have a chat with George and see whether we should have a meeting next week

<bhyland> Sounds like about 4 people from our WG will be at Boston at ISWC.

bhyland: We'll let you know, no later than Tuesday whether we have a meeting next week
... I think a number of us came back from TPAC feeling pretty energised...

<olyerickson> BartvanLeeuwen: we could talk... email me your skype

<Zakim> cygri, you wanted to suggest review of open, overdue and pending-review actions for one of the next calls

cygri: Since we had agenda planning on the agenda - I wanted to suggest we reviewed actions and issues, to see which are still relevant
... Can we make the tracker relevant again

bhyland: Will do, yes. +1 Richard
... Thanks everyone

<BartvanLeeuwen> thx bhyland

<olyerickson> buy!

meeting adjourned

<jpalmeida> thx bye

<GofShu> bye

<bhyland> @olyerickson … you were very quiet … are you OK?

- DRAFT -

Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference

08 Nov 2012

Attendees

Contents

TPAC review

UK Gov't Linked Data WG

Agenda Planning

ISA Programme Vocabs

Summary of Action Items

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