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13:57:25 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
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13:57:27 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be GLD
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13:57:27 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
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13:57:28 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
13:57:28 <trackbot> Date: 28 March 2013
13:58:38 <Zakim> T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has now started
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13:58:44 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
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13:59:20 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman
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13:59:33 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who is here?
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13:59:33 <Zakim> On the phone I see james, HadleyBeeman
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13:59:34 <Zakim> On IRC I see james, Zakim, RRSAgent, TallTed, HadleyBeeman, bhyland, sandro, trackbot
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14:00:01 <Zakim> +davidwood
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14:00:30 <Zakim> + +3539149aaaa
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14:00:52 <fadmaa> Zakim, aaaa is me
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14:00:52 <Zakim> +fadmaa; got it
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14:00:54 <Zakim> +MHausenblas
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14:01:15 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me
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14:01:17 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
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14:01:20 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, mhausenblas is cygri
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14:01:20 <Zakim> +cygri; got it
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14:01:21 <PhilA> zakim, ipcaller is me
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14:01:21 <Zakim> +PhilA; got it
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14:01:38 <HadleyBeeman> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20130328
14:01:55 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?
Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call? ←
14:01:55 <Zakim> On the phone I see james, HadleyBeeman, davidwood, fadmaa (muted), cygri, PhilA
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14:02:03 <Zakim> +Sandro
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14:02:13 <bhyland> zakim, davidwood is me
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14:02:13 <Zakim> +bhyland; got it
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14:03:19 <Zakim> +??P1
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14:03:24 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?
Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call? ←
14:03:24 <Zakim> On the phone I see james, HadleyBeeman, bhyland, fadmaa (muted), cygri, PhilA, Sandro, ??P1
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14:03:25 <BartvanLeeuwen> Zakim, ??P1 is me
Bart van Leeuwen: Zakim, ??P1 is me ←
14:03:27 <Zakim> +BartvanLeeuwen; got it
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14:03:27 <Zakim> + +91.80.67.84.aabb
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14:03:29 <fadmaa> Zakim, unmute me
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14:03:29 <Zakim> fadmaa should no longer be muted
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14:03:40 <bhyland> zakim, aabb is Biplav
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14:03:40 <Zakim> +Biplav; got it
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14:03:46 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
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14:04:02 <PhilA> PhilA has changed the topic to: Gov't Linked Data WG -- http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/ -- http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20130328
Phil Archer: PhilA has changed the topic to: Gov't Linked Data WG -- http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/ -- http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20130328 ←
14:04:10 <olyerickson> zakim, [ipcaller] is me.
John Erickson: zakim, [ipcaller] is me. ←
14:04:10 <Zakim> +olyerickson; got it
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14:04:19 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
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14:04:25 <bhyland> Scribe: Fadi
(Scribe set to Fadi Maali)
14:04:29 <bhyland> Chair: bhyland
14:04:29 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me
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14:04:29 <Zakim> fadmaa should now be muted
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14:04:35 <Zakim> +Mike_Pendleton
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14:04:38 <fadmaa> Scribe: fadmaa
14:05:07 <HadleyBeeman> Last week's minutes: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2013-03-21
Hadley Beeman: Last week's minutes: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2013-03-21 ←
14:05:21 <bhyland> Proposal to accept minutes from last week: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2013-03-21
Bernadette Hyland: Proposal to accept minutes from last week: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2013-03-21 ←
14:05:40 <fadmaa> bhyland: PROPOSAL: accept last week minutes
Bernadette Hyland: PROPOSAL: accept last week minutes ←
14:05:55 <fadmaa> bhyland: we discussed attribution during last week telco
Bernadette Hyland: we discussed attribution during last week telco ←
14:07:09 <bhyland> +1
Bernadette Hyland: +1 ←
14:07:12 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1
Bart van Leeuwen: +1 ←
14:07:15 <HadleyBeeman> +1
Hadley Beeman: +1 ←
14:07:17 <DaveReynolds> +1
Dave Reynolds: +1 ←
14:07:18 <gatemezi> +1
Ghislain Atemezing: +1 ←
14:07:19 <PhilA> +1
Phil Archer: +1 ←
14:07:37 <fadmaa> bhyland: RESOLUTION: accept the minutes
Bernadette Hyland: RESOLUTION: accept the minutes ←
14:08:13 <fadmaa> bhyland: I thank you all for the great outreach last week with regards to the vocabularies
Bernadette Hyland: I thank you all for the great outreach last week with regards to the vocabularies ←
14:08:47 <HadleyBeeman> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-comments/2013Mar/
Hadley Beeman: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-comments/2013Mar/ ←
14:09:02 <fadmaa> bhyland: there was a great discussion particularly about DCAT and thanks to cygri for addressing most of them
Bernadette Hyland: there was a great discussion particularly about DCAT and thanks to cygri for addressing most of them ←
14:09:23 <fadmaa> RESOLUTION: accept last week minutes
RESOLVED: accept last week minutes ←
14:09:43 <fadmaa> TOPIC: F2F meeting in Dublin
14:09:48 <bhyland> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/F2F3
14:09:57 <fadmaa> bhyland: we have 10 confirmed people
Bernadette Hyland: we have 10 confirmed people ←
14:10:17 <Zakim> +MakxDekkers
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14:10:24 <fadmaa> bhyland: any thoughts regarding remote joining?
Bernadette Hyland: any thoughts regarding remote joining? ←
14:10:26 <Zakim> +[LC]
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14:10:29 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
14:10:35 <tinagheen> Zakim, [LC] is me
Tina Gheen: Zakim, [LC] is me ←
14:10:35 <Zakim> +tinagheen; got it
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14:10:38 <DaveReynolds> q+
Dave Reynolds: q+ ←
14:11:08 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: normally there is no remote option in the W3C F2F meeting
DaveReyalways alds: always armally there is always a remote option in the W3C F2F meeting ←
14:11:20 <DaveReynolds> s/no/always a/
14:12:08 <DaveReynolds> ack me
Dave Reynolds: ack me ←
14:12:13 <olyerickson> yes I am...
John Erickson: yes I am... ←
14:12:19 <olyerickson> not going to Dublin
John Erickson: not going to Dublin ←
14:12:46 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?
Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call? ←
14:12:46 <Zakim> On the phone I see james, HadleyBeeman, bhyland, fadmaa (muted), cygri, PhilA, Sandro, BartvanLeeuwen, Biplav, olyerickson, DaveReynolds, Mike_Pendleton, MakxDekkers, tinagheen
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see james, HadleyBeeman, bhyland, fadmaa (muted), cygri, PhilA, Sandro, BartvanLeeuwen, Biplav, olyerickson, DaveReynolds, Mike_Pendleton, MakxDekkers, tinagheen ←
14:13:03 <fadmaa> sandro: It'd help if we get a good Web cam for people joining remotely
Sandro Hawke: It'd help if we get a good Web cam for people joining remotely ←
14:13:18 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
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14:13:24 <fadmaa> bhyland: we need someone to operate it though
Bernadette Hyland: we need someone to operate it though ←
14:13:26 <MariosMeimaris> zakim, IPcaller is me
Marios Meimaris: zakim, IPcaller is me ←
14:13:26 <Zakim> +MariosMeimaris; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +MariosMeimaris; got it ←
14:13:37 <MakxDekkers> I can bring my MiFi, but don't have an Irish SIM
Makx Dekkers: I can bring my MiFi, but don't have an Irish SIM ←
14:13:52 <fadmaa> bhyland: we have no meal sponsor... you are encouraged to do so
Bernadette Hyland: we have no meal sponsor... you are encouraged to do so ←
14:13:59 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
14:14:04 <fadmaa> bhyland: otherwise, we have to pay for our meals
Bernadette Hyland: otherwise, we have to pay for our meals ←
14:15:00 <fadmaa> cygri: the most important thing is to have time for discussing comments related to last call
Richard Cyganiak: the most important thing is to have time for discussing comments related to last call ←
14:15:29 <fadmaa> cygri: we have an hour slot reserved for each of the vocabulary
Richard Cyganiak: we have an hour slot reserved for each of the vocabulary ←
14:15:43 <bhyland> +1
Bernadette Hyland: +1 ←
14:15:44 <HadleyBeeman> +1 to being flexible about the agenda.
Hadley Beeman: +1 to being flexible about the agenda. ←
14:16:01 <fadmaa> cygri: I'd encourage being flexible with the agenda to accomodate for potential comments we might get
Richard Cyganiak: I'd encourage being flexible with the agenda to accomodate for potential comments we might get ←
14:16:02 <HadleyBeeman> Especially because we don't know how many last call comments we will have, who will be able to participate.
Hadley Beeman: Especially because we don't know how many last call comments we will have, who will be able to participate. ←
14:16:10 <olyerickson> I can dial-in to the DCAT discussion
John Erickson: I can dial-in to the DCAT discussion ←
14:16:16 <fadmaa> bhyland: totally agree
Bernadette Hyland: totally agree ←
14:16:55 <olyerickson> I did not realize I was on the agenda (looking at URI section)
John Erickson: I did not realize I was on the agenda (looking at URI section) ←
14:16:58 <gatemezi> +1 to cygri point related to agenda flexibility and have more time for vocabs discussions
Ghislain Atemezing: +1 to cygri point related to agenda flexibility and have more time for vocabs discussions ←
14:17:05 <PhilA> q+
Phil Archer: q+ ←
14:17:10 <fadmaa> bhyland: we might cancel the session dedicated to discussing licenses
Bernadette Hyland: we might cancel the session dedicated to discussing licenses ←
14:17:38 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
14:17:43 <bhyland> ack PhilA
Bernadette Hyland: ack PhilA ←
14:17:49 <fadmaa> bhyland: PhilA will be our W3C contact during the meeting
Bernadette Hyland: PhilA will be our W3C contact during the meeting ←
14:18:32 <PhilA> http://www.w3.org/2013/04/odw/agenda
Phil Archer: http://www.w3.org/2013/04/odw/agenda ←
14:18:56 <fadmaa> PhilA: regarding F2F agenda, there is an hour dedicated to the open data on the web workshop
Phil Archer: regarding F2F agenda, there is an hour dedicated to the open data on the web workshop ←
14:19:25 <fadmaa> PhilA: all people on this call is welcomed to join even if he/she has no paper there
Phil Archer: all people on this call is welcomed to join even if he/she has no paper there ←
14:19:39 <HadleyBeeman> PhilA, would you rather put a different title on the F2F session?
Hadley Beeman: PhilA, would you rather put a different title on the F2F session? ←
14:20:43 <DaveReynolds> q+
Dave Reynolds: q+ ←
14:20:49 <fadmaa> bhyland: we might use this slot to also discuss the potential of a follow-up of this group
Bernadette Hyland: we might use this slot to also discuss the potential of a follow-up of this group ←
14:20:54 <BartvanLeeuwen> Sorry PhilA ;)
Bart van Leeuwen: Sorry PhilA ;) ←
14:21:09 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
14:21:41 <Biplav> q+
Biplav Srivastava: q+ ←
14:21:51 <HadleyBeeman> ack dave
Hadley Beeman: ack dave ←
14:22:26 <DaveReynolds> ack me
Dave Reynolds: ack me ←
14:22:41 <HadleyBeeman> ack biplav
Hadley Beeman: ack biplav ←
14:22:43 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
14:23:37 <fadmaa> Biplav: a possible agenda topic, reserving a slot to reach-out for people other than the attendants
Biplav Srivastava: a possible agenda topic, reserving a slot to reach-out for people other than the attendants ←
14:23:50 <HadleyBeeman> q+
Hadley Beeman: q+ ←
14:23:50 <bhyland> Biplav: Suggested we have a considered, thoughtful outreach effort post-GLD WG ...
Biplav Srivastava: Suggested we have a considered, thoughtful outreach effort post-GLD WG ... [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←
14:23:54 <fadmaa> Biplav: I mean people working on open governemtn catalogues
Biplav Srivastava: I mean people working on open government catalogues ←
14:23:58 <bhyland> … .e.g, Greece, Kenya, etc.
Bernadette Hyland: … .e.g, Greece, Kenya, etc. ←
14:24:16 <fadmaa> s/governemtn/government/
14:24:37 <BartvanLeeuwen> q+
Bart van Leeuwen: q+ ←
14:25:07 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
14:25:50 <cygri> q+
Richard Cyganiak: q+ ←
14:26:02 <fadmaa> Biplav: a half-time slot that people from outside the working group might join remotely (online)
Biplav Srivastava: a half-time slot that people from outside the working group might join remotely (online) ←
14:26:09 <bhyland> +1 to Biplav's idea but not sure how we'd do it logistically
Bernadette Hyland: +1 to Biplav's idea but not sure how we'd do it logistically ←
14:26:32 <fadmaa> HadleyBeeman: very good idea I am a bit concerned that we might don't have time for that
Hadley Beeman: very good idea I am a bit concerned that we might don't have time for that ←
14:26:48 <fadmaa> HadleyBeeman: also we need their comments to arrive before the F2F
Hadley Beeman: also we need their comments to arrive before the F2F ←
14:27:33 <gatemezi> For the comments, we can also try to send them a mail via their public address
Ghislain Atemezing: For the comments, we can also try to send them a mail via their public address ←
14:27:40 <gatemezi> from their portal
Ghislain Atemezing: from their portal ←
14:28:01 <HadleyBeeman> +1 to bhyland to explore this… and possibly wrap into EDF presentation?
Hadley Beeman: +1 to bhyland to explore this… and possibly wrap into EDF presentation? ←
14:28:03 <bhyland> Biplav: There are risks, but there there benefits to present a polished presentation on the deliverables, to promote usage.
Biplav Srivastava: There are risks, but there there benefits to present a polished presentation on the deliverables, to promote usage. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←
14:28:07 <fadmaa> bhyland: we have a speaking slot at EDF I can use a couple of minutes of the slot there
Bernadette Hyland: we have a speaking slot at EDF I can use a couple of minutes of the slot there ←
14:28:12 <HadleyBeeman> q-
Hadley Beeman: q- ←
14:28:53 <HadleyBeeman> Should we find some way to include the eGov IG in this outreach?
Hadley Beeman: Should we find some way to include the eGov IG in this outreach? ←
14:29:01 <fadmaa> BartvanLeeuwen: Biplav idea sounds good to me. I'd suggest to have some ready presentation that we can use to reach-out about the working group activities and products
Bart van Leeuwen: Biplav idea sounds good to me. I'd suggest to have some ready presentation that we can use to reach-out about the working group activities and products ←
14:29:24 <fadmaa> BartvanLeeuwen: we might work on that during the F2F meeting
Bart van Leeuwen: we might work on that during the F2F meeting ←
14:29:36 <bhyland> +1 to Bart's idea for a short deck that all members could use for future presentations.
Bernadette Hyland: +1 to Bart's idea for a short deck that all members could use for future presentations. ←
14:30:25 <bhyland> Does anyone want to take this as an action item? We have lots of content …. anyone feeling their inner marketing creativity?
Bernadette Hyland: Does anyone want to take this as an action item? We have lots of content …. anyone feeling their inner marketing creativity? ←
14:30:35 <fadmaa> cygri: outreach is definitely important. I am, though, concerned about taking time out of the F2F meeting for this
Richard Cyganiak: outreach is definitely important. I am, though, concerned about taking time out of the F2F meeting for this ←
14:31:41 <fadmaa> cygri: The F2F meeting is not necessarily the best time to work on preparing a presentation... using the time for discussing and planning outreach activities sound better to me
Richard Cyganiak: The F2F meeting is not necessarily the best time to work on preparing a presentation... using the time for discussing and planning outreach activities sound better to me ←
14:32:21 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
14:32:26 <bhyland> ack Bart
Bernadette Hyland: ack Bart ←
14:32:32 <bhyland> ack cygri
Bernadette Hyland: ack cygri ←
14:32:38 <fadmaa> bhyland: I updated the agenda and dedicated a skot for the outreach
Bernadette Hyland: I updated the agenda and dedicated a skot for the outreach ←
14:32:48 <fadmaa> TOPIC: Linked Data Glossary
14:33:01 <fadmaa> bhyland: we have a short name approved.
Bernadette Hyland: we have a short name approved. ←
14:33:16 <fadmaa> bhyland: we seeked the feedback of a number of relevant experts
Bernadette Hyland: we seeked the feedback of a number of relevant experts ←
14:33:57 <fadmaa> bhyland: we are ready to getting it published as a note
Bernadette Hyland: we are ready to getting it published as a note ←
14:35:07 <olyerickson> Yes, jahendler is out for Passover
John Erickson: Yes, jahendler is out for Passover ←
14:35:19 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
14:35:24 <fadmaa> PhilA: we need to keep the upcoming holidays in mind with regards to the publication dates
Phil Archer: we need to keep the upcoming holidays in mind with regards to the publication dates ←
14:35:35 <fadmaa> TOPIC: DCAT
14:35:38 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/DCAT_Timetable
Bernadette Hyland: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/DCAT_Timetable ←
14:35:54 <fadmaa> Zakim, unmute me
Zakim, unmute me ←
14:35:54 <Zakim> fadmaa should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: fadmaa should no longer be muted ←
14:36:31 <fadmaa> http://www.w3.org/ns/dcat
14:37:15 <olyerickson> How are we tracking and vetting these DCAT issues?
John Erickson: How are we tracking and vetting these DCAT issues? ←
14:37:45 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/TR has a much more strict process than http://www.w3.org/ns (at the moment)
Sandro Hawke: http://www.w3.org/TR has a much more strict process than http://www.w3.org/ns (at the moment) ←
14:38:24 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-dcat/
Bernadette Hyland: http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-dcat/ ←
14:38:46 <olyerickson> Wait, are "we" editing the LCWD?
John Erickson: Wait, are "we" editing the LCWD? ←
14:39:00 <fadmaa> http://www.w3.org/ns/dcat.ttl
http://www.w3.org/ns/dcat.ttl ←
14:39:01 <Zakim> -Biplav
Zakim IRC Bot: -Biplav ←
14:39:07 <olyerickson> ie making changes during LC?
John Erickson: ie making changes during LC? ←
14:39:44 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me
Zakim, mute me ←
14:39:44 <Zakim> fadmaa should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: fadmaa should now be muted ←
14:40:01 <fadmaa> Zakim, unmute me
Zakim, unmute me ←
14:40:01 <Zakim> fadmaa should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: fadmaa should no longer be muted ←
14:40:02 <olyerickson> Q+
John Erickson: Q+ ←
14:40:21 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
14:40:27 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me
Zakim, mute me ←
14:40:27 <Zakim> fadmaa should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: fadmaa should now be muted ←
14:40:42 <cygri> q+
Richard Cyganiak: q+ ←
14:40:58 <fadmaa> olyerickson: are we editing the last call working draft as we are getting the comments?
John Erickson: are we editing the last call working draft as we are getting the comments? ←
14:41:05 <DaveReynolds> q+
Dave Reynolds: q+ ←
14:41:31 <PhilA> q+ to answer John
Phil Archer: q+ to answer John ←
14:41:39 <fadmaa> olyerickson: that might confuse people as they are asked to review the specification
John Erickson: that might confuse people as they are asked to review the specification ←
14:41:40 <olyerickson> ack
John Erickson: ack ←
14:41:50 <sandro> olyerickson, the WORKING DRAFT is NOT being changed. I imagine the EDITORS DRAFT is being changed.
Sandro Hawke: olyerickson, the WORKING DRAFT is NOT being changed. I imagine the EDITORS DRAFT is being changed. ←
14:41:54 <fadmaa> bhyland: we need to respond to all the comments we are getting
Bernadette Hyland: we need to respond to all the comments we are getting ←
14:42:08 <olyerickson> sandro: okay...
Sandro Hawke: okay... [ Scribe Assist by John Erickson ] ←
14:42:19 <cygri> q-
Richard Cyganiak: q- ←
14:42:20 <fadmaa> bhyland: and we need to edit the document when we have corrections to make
Bernadette Hyland: and we need to edit the document when we have corrections to make ←
14:42:28 <DaveReynolds> q-
Dave Reynolds: q- ←
14:42:36 <fadmaa> sandro: the editor draft can be edited but not the working draft
Sandro Hawke: the editor draft can be edited but not the working draft ←
14:42:52 <sandro> PhilA: The changes made need to be within a very limited bound. Substantial changes will require another Last Call.
Phil Archer: The changes made need to be within a very limited bound. Substantial changes will require another Last Call. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
14:42:56 <fadmaa> sandro: editing the working draft needs group agreement
Sandro Hawke: editing the working draft needs group agreement ←
14:43:16 <sandro> PhilA: The changes can be editorial, no more.
Phil Archer: The changes can be editorial, no more. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
14:43:27 <fadmaa> PhilA: we can only make editorial changes to the last call working draft. major changes require re-going through the process
Phil Archer: we can only make editorial changes to the last call working draft. major changes require re-going through the process ←
14:43:54 <PhilA> q-
Phil Archer: q- ←
14:43:56 <sandro> PhilA: A subtantive change is something that would break an implementation. A substantive change would require a second last call.
Phil Archer: A subtantive change is something that would break an implementation. A substantive change would require a second last call. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
14:43:58 <bhyland> Topic: Data Cube
14:44:00 <olyerickson> q-
John Erickson: q- ←
14:44:04 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Data_Cube_Timetable
Bernadette Hyland: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Data_Cube_Timetable ←
14:44:22 <sandro> fadmaa, where/how are comments being tracked?
Sandro Hawke: fadmaa, where/how are comments being tracked? ←
14:44:28 <sandro> fadmaa, (if they are)
Sandro Hawke: fadmaa, (if they are) ←
14:44:35 <fadmaa> cygri: we are waiting for last call feedback
Richard Cyganiak: we are waiting for last call feedback ←
14:44:42 <bhyland> They should be tracked via public comments mailing list
Bernadette Hyland: They should be tracked via public comments mailing list ←
14:44:50 <fadmaa> cygri: so far there has been no comments received
Richard Cyganiak: so far there has been no comments received ←
14:45:03 <fadmaa> bhyland: how are we tracking the comments we get?
Bernadette Hyland: how are we tracking the comments we get? ←
14:45:15 <bhyland> Sandro: Disposition of comments
Sandro Hawke: Disposition of comments [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←
14:45:39 <fadmaa> sandro: we need to create a page that list the coments we get and how we address them
Sandro Hawke: we need to create a page that list the coments we get and how we address them ←
14:45:39 <HadleyBeeman> Example disposition of comments http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/42538/ElementTraversal/doc/
Hadley Beeman: Example disposition of comments http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/42538/ElementTraversal/doc/ ←
14:46:40 <bhyland> Sandro: Some groups use a simple wiki or LC tracker.
Sandro Hawke: Some groups use a simple wiki or LC tracker. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←
14:46:42 <fadmaa> sandro: groups can use a Wiki page or the LC comments tracker
Sandro Hawke: groups can use a Wiki page or the LC comments tracker ←
14:47:01 <cygri> q+
Richard Cyganiak: q+ ←
14:47:17 <fadmaa> bhyland: editors should be responsible of maintaining this?
Bernadette Hyland: editors should be responsible of maintaining this? ←
14:47:22 <bhyland> … Advise doing it along the way.
Bernadette Hyland: … Advise doing it along the way. ←
14:47:27 <fadmaa> sandro: either editors or the chairs can do this
Sandro Hawke: either editors or the chairs can do this ←
14:47:55 <DaveReynolds> For example see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/ORG_LC_comments for ORG. That will need cleaning up and checking before asking for a CR transition.
Dave Reynolds: For example see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/ORG_LC_comments for ORG. That will need cleaning up and checking before asking for a CR transition. ←
14:48:37 <bhyland> @Dave, thank you, good example.
Bernadette Hyland: @Dave, thank you, good example. ←
14:48:53 <fadmaa> cygri: we have a number of spec in the last call currently. Creating a list from the mailing archive we have is some manual work that needs to be done but I don't think it will be a lot of work
Richard Cyganiak: we have a number of spec in the last call currently. Creating a list from the mailing archive we have is some manual work that needs to be done but I don't think it will be a lot of work ←
14:48:59 <fadmaa> ... if we do it per spec.
... if we do it per spec. ←
14:49:06 <sandro> Here's a pretty wiki page: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Turtle_Candidate_Recommendation_Comments or another http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments
Sandro Hawke: Here's a pretty wiki page: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Turtle_Candidate_Recommendation_Comments or another http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments ←
14:49:27 <fadmaa> cygri: I think having the editors keeping track of that is a good idea
Richard Cyganiak: I think having the editors keeping track of that is a good idea ←
14:49:58 <sandro> "disposition of comments"
Sandro Hawke: "disposition of comments" ←
14:50:24 <fadmaa> HadleyBeeman: I will add a column "disposition of comments" to the summary table we have
Hadley Beeman: I will add a column "disposition of comments" to the summary table we have ←
14:50:47 <fadmaa> sandro: will we use WIKI or LC tracker?
Sandro Hawke: will we use WIKI or LC tracker? ←
14:50:48 <DaveReynolds> q+
Dave Reynolds: q+ ←
14:50:53 <fadmaa> bhyland:
14:51:07 <fadmaa> bhyland: let's leave it to the decision of the editors
Bernadette Hyland: let's leave it to the decision of the editors ←
14:51:14 <gatemezi> @hadleyBeeman: with a link to each comment section per spec?
Ghislain Atemezing: @hadleyBeeman: with a link to each comment section per spec? ←
14:51:24 <fadmaa> bhyland: this is only for the recommendation track
Bernadette Hyland: this is only for the recommendation track ←
14:51:51 <HadleyBeeman> @gatemezi: yes, a with a link to each comment. I'll create a holding page for comment tracking of each spec.
Hadley Beeman: @gatemezi: yes, a with a link to each comment. I'll create a holding page for comment tracking of each spec. ←
14:51:55 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
14:52:09 <bhyland> Topic: Org Vocab
14:52:10 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/ORG_Timetable
Bernadette Hyland: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/ORG_Timetable ←
14:52:33 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: we have only one comment which is not specifically related to ORG
Dave Reynolds: we have only one comment which is not specifically related to ORG ←
14:53:11 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: I responded to it but don't consider that a direct comment to ORG
Dave Reynolds: I responded to it but don't consider that a direct comment to ORG ←
14:53:52 <fadmaa> PhilA: we need to respond to comments until the commentor is happy
Phil Archer: we need to respond to comments until the commentor is happy ←
14:53:56 <bhyland> Definition of what goes on the Disposition wiki page or tracker = Proof that comments were received, evaluated and replied to. Replies don't always have to be in the affirmative.
Bernadette Hyland: Definition of what goes on the Disposition wiki page or tracker = Proof that comments were received, evaluated and replied to. Replies don't always have to be in the affirmative. ←
14:54:10 <fadmaa> PhilA: or we get no response. still good to send a reminder
Phil Archer: or we get no response. still good to send a reminder ←
14:54:23 <fadmaa> ... in case of no response
... in case of no response ←
14:55:05 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: we have to respond to any comment that is clearly addressed at some last call draft
Dave Reynolds: we have to respond to any comment that is clearly addressed at some last call draft ←
14:55:49 <sandro> yay!
Sandro Hawke: yay! ←
14:55:52 <HadleyBeeman> :)
Hadley Beeman: :) ←
14:56:08 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: the provenance group informed us that they are happy with the reply we provided
Dave Reynolds: the provenance group informed us that they are happy with the reply we provided ←
14:56:12 <sandro> DaveReynolds: PROV WG is happy with our responses with their reviews.
Dave Reynolds: PROV WG is happy with our responses with their reviews. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
14:56:13 <bhyland> Issue-55, issue-56, issue-57 can all be closed.
Bernadette Hyland: ISSUE-55, ISSUE-56, ISSUE-57 can all be closed. ←
14:56:19 <sandro> issue-55?
14:56:19 <trackbot> ISSUE-55 -- Use of prov:wasDerivedFrom -- pending review
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-55 -- Use of prov:wasDerivedFrom -- pending review ←
14:56:19 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/55
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/55 ←
14:56:23 <sandro> issue-56?
14:56:23 <trackbot> ISSUE-56 -- Check PROV semantic constraints -- pending review
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-56 -- Check PROV semantic constraints -- pending review ←
14:56:23 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/56
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/56 ←
14:56:26 <sandro> issue-57?
14:56:26 <trackbot> ISSUE-57 -- PROV use of invalidation -- pending review
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-57 -- PROV use of invalidation -- pending review ←
14:56:26 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/57
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/57 ←
14:56:33 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: we can now close the issues 55, 56 and 57
Dave Reynolds: we can now close the issues 55, 56 and 57 ←
14:56:35 <Zakim> -olyerickson
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14:56:43 <bhyland> Topic: Community Directory
14:56:44 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/File:W3C_Community_Directory_Workflow-status_update_20130328.pdf
Bernadette Hyland: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/File:W3C_Community_Directory_Workflow-status_update_20130328.pdf ←
14:56:46 <DaveReynolds> q-
Dave Reynolds: q- ←
14:57:26 <fadmaa> bhyland: we worked on streamlining the workflow re. community directory
Bernadette Hyland: we worked on streamlining the workflow re. community directory ←
14:57:40 <fadmaa> bhyland: have a look at the updated document
Bernadette Hyland: have a look at the updated document ←
14:58:13 <fadmaa> bhyland: creating an entry now is an asynchronous process
Bernadette Hyland: creating an entry now is an asynchronous process ←
14:58:36 <fadmaa> bhyland: in response to registering an entry we provide RDF (we used the ORG ontology also)
Bernadette Hyland: in response to registering an entry we provide RDF (we used the ORG ontology also) ←
14:59:00 <fadmaa> ... the web master can then paste the resulting RDF
... the web master can then paste the resulting RDF ←
14:59:37 <fadmaa> ... after that, the location of the published RDF needs to be provided to our system
... after that, the location of the published RDF needs to be provided to our system ←
14:59:38 <sandro> I wonder about using a .well-known location, so one just needs the domain name? Or about embedding it in the / document
Sandro Hawke: I wonder about using a .well-known location, so one just needs the domain name? Or about embedding it in the / document ←
14:59:57 <fadmaa> ... the user interface of the directory has been significantly improved
... the user interface of the directory has been significantly improved ←
15:00:37 <sandro> +1 willing to try
Sandro Hawke: +1 willing to try ←
15:00:42 <fadmaa> bhyland: people on this call are encouraged to test it
Bernadette Hyland: people on this call are encouraged to test it ←
15:00:54 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
15:01:13 <fadmaa> ... they need to be able to put a turtle file one the Web
... they need to be able to put a turtle file one the Web ←
15:01:25 <PhilA> I can give it a whirl although I don't think I'm really the target for the Dir but yes, I have write access to philarcher.org
Phil Archer: I can give it a whirl although I don't think I'm really the target for the Dir but yes, I have write access to philarcher.org ←
15:01:32 <sandro> q+
Sandro Hawke: q+ ←
15:01:38 <bhyland> ack cygri
Bernadette Hyland: ack cygri ←
15:02:02 <DaveReynolds> q+
Dave Reynolds: q+ ←
15:02:42 <sandro> Is it okay too put the w3c one at http://www.w3.org/People/Sandro/ ... ?
Sandro Hawke: Is it okay too put the w3c one at http://www.w3.org/People/Sandro/ ... ? ←
15:02:43 <bhyland> Sandro: The dir.ttl Turtle file can be put in your staff or personal area.
Sandro Hawke: The dir.ttl Turtle file can be put in your staff or personal area. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←
15:02:49 <sandro> bhyland: yes
Bernadette Hyland: yes [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
15:04:15 <HadleyBeeman> If we have personal information, might there be Data Protection issues in moving data from one databases to another?
Hadley Beeman: If we have personal information, might there be Data Protection issues in moving data from one databases to another? ←
15:04:31 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
15:04:34 <sandro> q-
Sandro Hawke: q- ←
15:04:36 <DaveReynolds> q-
Dave Reynolds: q- ←
15:04:37 <bhyland> ack sandro
Bernadette Hyland: ack sandro ←
15:05:03 <gatemezi> I guess we have info that are public
Ghislain Atemezing: I guess we have info that are public ←
15:05:19 <BartvanLeeuwen> cya
Bart van Leeuwen: cya ←
15:05:26 <gatemezi> office tel, address, etc..
Ghislain Atemezing: office tel, address, etc.. ←
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15:05:58 <bhyland> Thanks everyone, sorry for the moving that telecon so fast, we had a lot to cover.
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15:05:59 <Zakim> Attendees were james, HadleyBeeman, +3539149aaaa, fadmaa, cygri, PhilA, Sandro, bhyland, BartvanLeeuwen, +91.80.67.84.aabb, Biplav, olyerickson, DaveReynolds, Mike_Pendleton,
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15:06:04 <bhyland> Thanks Fadi for scribing!!
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