14:48:51 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/11/08-gld-irc
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14:48:53 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
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14:48:55 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be GLD
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be GLD ←
14:48:55 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 12 minutes
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot; I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 12 minutes ←
14:48:56 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
14:48:56 <trackbot> Date: 08 November 2012
14:50:53 <Zakim> T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has now started
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14:51:00 <Zakim> +Mike_Pendleton
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14:56:08 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
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Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
14:56:17 <olyerickson> zakim, [ipcaller] is me.
John Erickson: zakim, [ipcaller] is me. ←
14:56:17 <Zakim> +olyerickson; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +olyerickson; got it ←
14:56:23 <olyerickson> mute me
John Erickson: mute me ←
14:56:29 <olyerickson> zakim, mute me.
John Erickson: zakim, mute me. ←
14:56:30 <Zakim> olyerickson should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: olyerickson should now be muted ←
14:57:10 <PhilA2> zakim, this will be gld
Phil Archer: zakim, this will be gld ←
14:57:10 <Zakim> ok, PhilA2, I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM already started
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, PhilA2, I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM already started ←
14:57:36 <PhilA2> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20121108
14:57:43 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
14:57:52 <PhilA2> Meeting: G:D WG Weekly call 8 Nov 2012
14:58:11 <PhilA2> zakim, code?
Phil Archer: zakim, code? ←
14:58:11 <Zakim> the conference code is 45394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), PhilA2
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 45394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), PhilA2 ←
14:58:31 <Zakim> +??P13
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P13 ←
14:58:36 <PhilA2> zakim, P13 is me
Phil Archer: zakim, P13 is me ←
14:58:36 <Zakim> sorry, PhilA2, I do not recognize a party named 'P13'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, PhilA2, I do not recognize a party named 'P13' ←
14:58:42 <PhilA2> zakim, ??P13 is me
Phil Archer: zakim, ??P13 is me ←
14:58:42 <Zakim> +PhilA2; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +PhilA2; got it ←
14:58:51 <Zakim> + +1.540.898.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.540.898.aaaa ←
14:58:55 <agipap> zakim, ipcaller is me
Agis Papantoniou: zakim, ipcaller is me ←
14:58:55 <Zakim> +agipap; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +agipap; got it ←
14:59:13 <PhilA2> chair: Bernadette
14:59:14 <Zakim> +??P12
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P12 ←
14:59:45 <bhyland> Today's agenda, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20121108
Bernadette Hyland: Today's agenda, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20121108 ←
15:00:44 <Zakim> + +33.4.93.00.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +33.4.93.00.aabb ←
15:01:01 <Zakim> + +3539149aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: + +3539149aacc ←
15:01:03 <Zakim> +MHausenblas
Zakim IRC Bot: +MHausenblas ←
15:01:11 <cygri> zakim, mhausenblas is temporarily me
Richard Cyganiak: zakim, mhausenblas is temporarily me ←
15:01:11 <Zakim> +cygri; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +cygri; got it ←
15:01:19 <fadmaa> Zakim, +35391 is fadmaa
Fadi Maali: Zakim, +35391 is fadmaa ←
15:01:19 <Zakim> +fadmaa; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +fadmaa; got it ←
15:01:44 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me
Fadi Maali: Zakim, mute me ←
15:01:44 <Zakim> fadmaa should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: fadmaa should now be muted ←
15:02:10 <Zakim> +Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro ←
15:02:22 <cygri> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20121108
15:03:29 <cygri> meeting: GLD-WG Weekly Call, 8 Nov 2012
15:04:17 <PhilA2> scribe: PhilA2
(Scribe set to Phil Archer)
15:04:23 <PhilA2> scribeNick: PhilA2
15:04:43 <PhilA2> zakim, who is here?
zakim, who is here? ←
15:04:43 <Zakim> On the phone I see Mike_Pendleton, olyerickson (muted), agipap, PhilA2, +1.540.898.aaaa, ??P12, gatemezin, fadmaa (muted), cygri, Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Mike_Pendleton, olyerickson (muted), agipap, PhilA2, +1.540.898.aaaa, ??P12, gatemezin, fadmaa (muted), cygri, Sandro ←
15:04:45 <Zakim> On IRC I see martinAlvarez, fadmaa, cygri, mhausenblas, gatemezin, PhilA2, agipap, olyerickson, Mike_Pendleton, Zakim, RRSAgent, MacTed, Makx, bhyland, trackbot, sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see martinAlvarez, fadmaa, cygri, mhausenblas, gatemezin, PhilA2, agipap, olyerickson, Mike_Pendleton, Zakim, RRSAgent, MacTed, Makx, bhyland, trackbot, sandro ←
15:04:48 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
15:04:56 <mhausenblas> Zakim, I'm with cygri
Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, I'm with cygri ←
15:04:56 <Zakim> +mhausenblas; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +mhausenblas; got it ←
15:05:37 <Zakim> +??P0
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P0 ←
15:05:37 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?
Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call? ←
15:05:38 <cygri> sandro, can you associate agipap's nick with his user account? Agis Papantoniou
Richard Cyganiak: sandro, can you associate agipap's nick with his user account? Agis Papantoniou ←
15:05:38 <Zakim> On the phone I see Mike_Pendleton, olyerickson (muted), agipap, PhilA2, +1.540.898.aaaa, ??P12, gatemezin, fadmaa (muted), cygri, Sandro, [IPcaller], ??P0
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Mike_Pendleton, olyerickson (muted), agipap, PhilA2, +1.540.898.aaaa, ??P12, gatemezin, fadmaa (muted), cygri, Sandro, [IPcaller], ??P0 ←
15:05:38 <Zakim> cygri has mhausenblas
Zakim IRC Bot: cygri has mhausenblas ←
15:05:47 <bhyland> zakim, aaaa is me
Bernadette Hyland: zakim, aaaa is me ←
15:05:47 <Zakim> +bhyland; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +bhyland; got it ←
15:06:01 <Zakim> -??P0
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P0 ←
15:06:02 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?
Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call? ←
15:06:03 <Zakim> On the phone I see Mike_Pendleton, olyerickson (muted), agipap, PhilA2, bhyland, ??P12, gatemezin, fadmaa (muted), cygri, Sandro, [IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Mike_Pendleton, olyerickson (muted), agipap, PhilA2, bhyland, ??P12, gatemezin, fadmaa (muted), cygri, Sandro, [IPcaller] ←
15:06:03 <Zakim> cygri has mhausenblas
Zakim IRC Bot: cygri has mhausenblas ←
15:06:25 <Zakim> +??P0
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P0 ←
15:06:38 <PhilA2> zakim, ??P12 is Joao Paulo Almeida
zakim, ??P12 is Joao Paulo Almeida ←
15:06:38 <Zakim> +Joao Paulo; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Joao Paulo; got it ←
15:06:51 <martinAlvarez> zakim, ??P0 is me
Martín Álvarez: zakim, ??P0 is me ←
15:06:51 <Zakim> +martinAlvarez; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +martinAlvarez; got it ←
15:07:06 <cygri> present+ cygri
Richard Cyganiak: present+ cygri ←
15:07:33 <sandro> Almeida, Joao Paulo (profile)
Sandro Hawke: Almeida, Joao Paulo (profile) ←
15:07:35 <fadmaa> Zakim, GofShu is with me
Fadi Maali: Zakim, GofShu is with me ←
15:07:35 <Zakim> +GofShu; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +GofShu; got it ←
15:08:16 <Zakim> +[LC]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[LC] ←
15:08:20 <cygri> TOPIC: Preliminary Items
15:08:27 <PhilA2> Joao Paulo's intro -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2012Oct/0097.html
Joao Paulo's intro -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2012Oct/0097.html ←
15:08:28 <tinagheen> Zakim, [LC] is me
Tina Gheen: Zakim, [LC] is me ←
15:08:28 <Zakim> +tinagheen; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +tinagheen; got it ←
15:08:50 <PhilA2> s/Jean-Paulo/João Paulo/
s/Jean-Paulo/João Paulo/ (warning: replacement failed) ←
15:09:06 <PhilA2> And our new member's full name is João Paulo Andrade Almeida
And our new member's full name is João Paulo Andrade Almeida ←
15:09:13 <PhilA2> zakim, who is here?
zakim, who is here? ←
15:09:13 <Zakim> On the phone I see Mike_Pendleton, olyerickson (muted), agipap, PhilA2, bhyland, Joao Paulo, gatemezin, fadmaa (muted), cygri, Sandro, [IPcaller], martinAlvarez, tinagheen
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Mike_Pendleton, olyerickson (muted), agipap, PhilA2, bhyland, Joao Paulo, gatemezin, fadmaa (muted), cygri, Sandro, [IPcaller], martinAlvarez, tinagheen ←
15:09:17 <Zakim> cygri has mhausenblas
Zakim IRC Bot: cygri has mhausenblas ←
15:09:17 <Zakim> fadmaa has fadmaa, GofShu
Zakim IRC Bot: fadmaa has fadmaa, GofShu ←
15:09:17 <Zakim> On IRC I see tinagheen, GofShu, martinAlvarez, fadmaa, cygri, mhausenblas, gatemezin, PhilA2, agipap, olyerickson, Mike_Pendleton, Zakim, RRSAgent, MacTed, Makx, bhyland, trackbot,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see tinagheen, GofShu, martinAlvarez, fadmaa, cygri, mhausenblas, gatemezin, PhilA2, agipap, olyerickson, Mike_Pendleton, Zakim, RRSAgent, MacTed, Makx, bhyland, trackbot, ←
15:09:17 <Zakim> ... sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: ... sandro ←
15:09:45 <mhausenblas> :)
Michael Hausenblas: :) ←
15:10:11 <PhilA2> Makx: Hi - are you calling in via Skype? If so I know who the IPCaller is... ;-)
Makx Dekkers: Hi - are you calling in via Skype? If so I know who the IPCaller is... ;-) ←
15:10:31 <bhyland> Last meetings minutes: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2012-10-25
Bernadette Hyland: Last meetings minutes: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2012-10-25 ←
15:10:38 <bhyland> Please review to confirm & accept ...
Bernadette Hyland: Please review to confirm & accept ... ←
15:10:42 <mhausenblas> +1
Michael Hausenblas: +1 ←
15:10:53 <fadmaa> +1
Fadi Maali: +1 ←
15:10:57 <bhyland> +1
Bernadette Hyland: +1 ←
15:10:58 <gatemezin> +1
Ghislain Atemezing: +1 ←
15:11:02 <agipap> +1
Agis Papantoniou: +1 ←
15:11:39 <bhyland> New GLD WG members please introduce yourself ...
Bernadette Hyland: New GLD WG members please introduce yourself ... ←
15:11:57 <PhilA2> RESOLVED: Minutes of 25 October accepted
RESOLVED: Minutes of 25 October accepted ←
15:12:33 <PhilA2> Makx Dekkers' introduction -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2012Nov/0003.html
Makx Dekkers' introduction -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2012Nov/0003.html ←
15:12:58 <PhilA2> Topic: TPAC review
15:13:26 <PhilA2> Relevant blog posts at http://storify.com/w3cteam/tpac2012-see-sketch-and-fun, http://3roundstones.com/2012/11/08/tpac-2012-liberte-and-the-open-web-platform/ and http://3roundstones.com/2012/11/08/tpac-2012-4-days-of-open-web-standards-nouvelle-cuisine/
Relevant blog posts at http://storify.com/w3cteam/tpac2012-see-sketch-and-fun, http://3roundstones.com/2012/11/08/tpac-2012-liberte-and-the-open-web-platform/ and http://3roundstones.com/2012/11/08/tpac-2012-4-days-of-open-web-standards-nouvelle-cuisine/ ←
15:13:32 <PhilA2> bhyland: It was a great event
Bernadette Hyland: It was a great event ←
15:14:00 <PhilA2> bhyland: I posted an exec summary http://3roundstones.com/2012/11/08/tpac-2012-liberte-and-the-open-web-platform/
Bernadette Hyland: I posted an exec summary http://3roundstones.com/2012/11/08/tpac-2012-liberte-and-the-open-web-platform/ ←
15:14:07 <PhilA2> ... great event in a terrific location
... great event in a terrific location ←
15:14:11 <cygri> agipap, can you go to http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/users and enter your nickname? makes it easier for the sribe, otherwise they have to clean up the minutes manually each time
Richard Cyganiak: agipap, can you go to http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/users and enter your nickname? makes it easier for the sribe, otherwise they have to clean up the minutes manually each time ←
15:14:32 <agipap> of course
Agis Papantoniou: of course ←
15:14:37 <PhilA2> ... great to see how many people with various impairments were able to fully participate and move around
... great to see how many people with various impairments were able to fully participate and move around ←
15:15:22 <PhilA2> bhyland: I got there a day early thanks to Sandy (boy that was a strong wind) but it meant I was able to get to the developers' event
Bernadette Hyland: I got there a day early thanks to Sandy (boy that was a strong wind) but it meant I was able to get to the developers' event ←
15:15:23 <bhyland> Developers Meetup in Lyon, agenda: http://www.w3.org/2012/10/TPAC/meetup-Lyon.html
Bernadette Hyland: Developers Meetup in Lyon, agenda: http://www.w3.org/2012/10/TPAC/meetup-Lyon.html ←
15:16:06 <PhilA2> bhyland: Majority of people were on the floor as the room was so full. So many people enagaged in watching saeries of quick demos
Bernadette Hyland: Majority of people were on the floor as the room was so full. So many people enagaged in watching saeries of quick demos ←
15:16:32 <PhilA2> ... powered through loads of demos. Most inspiring was standards compliant Galaxy operating System
... powered through loads of demos. Most inspiring was standards compliant Galaxy operating System ←
15:16:50 <PhilA2> ... I think it's Mozilla who have developed this very impressive OS for mobile devices
... I think it's Mozilla who have developed this very impressive OS for mobile devices ←
15:17:00 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
15:17:04 <PhilA2> ... please let knkw know if you can't get to any of those pages etc.
... please let knkw know if you can't get to any of those pages etc. ←
15:17:26 <PhilA2> ... then day by day blog is at http://3roundstones.com/2012/11/08/tpac-2012-4-days-of-open-web-standards-nouvelle-cuisine/
... then day by day blog is at http://3roundstones.com/2012/11/08/tpac-2012-4-days-of-open-web-standards-nouvelle-cuisine/ ←
15:18:03 <PhilA2> ... I stopped by the RDF WG that cygri is in. Impressed by the meeting. Shows the importance of the charter/WG process etc.
... I stopped by the RDF WG that cygri is in. Impressed by the meeting. Shows the importance of the charter/WG process etc. ←
15:18:17 <agipap> nickname fixed
Agis Papantoniou: nickname fixed ←
15:18:45 <PhilA2> bhyland: I popped into Web ID group
Bernadette Hyland: I popped into Web ID group ←
15:18:59 <PhilA2> ... that had more people than the RDF WG and had more of a start up feel
... that had more people than the RDF WG and had more of a start up feel ←
15:19:40 <PhilA2> ... if you're not familiar with Community Groups then make yourself so. http://www.w3.org/community/
... if you're not familiar with Community Groups then make yourself so. http://www.w3.org/community/ ←
15:20:28 <PhilA2> sandro: CGs can be started by any 5 people (member or not)
Sandro Hawke: CGs can be started by any 5 people (member or not) ←
15:20:48 <PhilA2> .. if it works well then it can grow into becoming a WG
.. if it works well then it can grow into becoming a WG ←
15:21:10 <PhilA2> ... Business Groups cost money to join and are for vertical industries
... Business Groups cost money to join and are for vertical industries ←
15:21:33 <PhilA2> bhyland: More than 100 CGs have spring up since Aug 2011 with over 1900 participants. Lots from members but majority are not
Bernadette Hyland: More than 100 CGs have spring up since Aug 2011 with over 1900 participants. Lots from members but majority are not ←
15:21:42 <PhilA2> sandro: I'm not sure of their level of activity
Sandro Hawke: I'm not sure of their level of activity ←
15:22:11 <PhilA2> sandro: Some I suspect are inactive, others, like the one you saw at TPAC, are very active
Sandro Hawke: Some I suspect are inactive, others, like the one you saw at TPAC, are very active ←
15:23:03 <PhilA2> sandro: A great deashboard feature would be the number of action items that have been closed
Sandro Hawke: A great deashboard feature would be the number of action items that have been closed ←
15:24:09 <Zakim> + +49.721.aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: + +49.721.aadd ←
15:24:23 <BenediktKaempgen> zakim, who's here?
Benedikt Kaempgen: zakim, who's here? ←
15:24:23 <Zakim> On the phone I see Mike_Pendleton, olyerickson (muted), agipap, PhilA2, bhyland, Joao Paulo, gatemezin, fadmaa (muted), cygri, Sandro, [IPcaller], martinAlvarez, tinagheen,
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Mike_Pendleton, olyerickson (muted), agipap, PhilA2, bhyland, Joao Paulo, gatemezin, fadmaa (muted), cygri, Sandro, [IPcaller], martinAlvarez, tinagheen, ←
15:24:26 <Zakim> ... +49.721.aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: ... +49.721.aadd ←
15:24:26 <Zakim> cygri has mhausenblas
Zakim IRC Bot: cygri has mhausenblas ←
15:24:26 <Zakim> fadmaa has fadmaa, GofShu
Zakim IRC Bot: fadmaa has fadmaa, GofShu ←
15:24:26 <Zakim> On IRC I see BartvanLeeuwen, BenediktKaempgen, jpalmeida, tinagheen, GofShu, martinAlvarez, fadmaa, cygri, mhausenblas, gatemezin, PhilA2, agipap, olyerickson, Mike_Pendleton,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see BartvanLeeuwen, BenediktKaempgen, jpalmeida, tinagheen, GofShu, martinAlvarez, fadmaa, cygri, mhausenblas, gatemezin, PhilA2, agipap, olyerickson, Mike_Pendleton, ←
15:24:27 <Zakim> ... Zakim, RRSAgent, MacTed, Makx, bhyland, trackbot, sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: ... Zakim, RRSAgent, MacTed, Makx, bhyland, trackbot, sandro ←
15:24:43 <BenediktKaempgen> zakim, aadd is BenediktKaempgen
Benedikt Kaempgen: zakim, aadd is BenediktKaempgen ←
15:24:43 <Zakim> +BenediktKaempgen; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +BenediktKaempgen; got it ←
15:25:09 <Zakim> +??P8
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P8 ←
15:25:13 <PhilA2> bhyland: Riffs on the general status and munificence of W3C
Bernadette Hyland: Riffs on the general status and munificence of W3C ←
15:25:15 <BartvanLeeuwen> Zakim, ??p8 is me
Bart van Leeuwen: Zakim, ??p8 is me ←
15:25:16 <Zakim> +BartvanLeeuwen; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +BartvanLeeuwen; got it ←
15:25:45 <PhilA2> bhyland: Marilyn got me into a group to discuss perceived benefits of membership
Bernadette Hyland: Marilyn got me into a group to discuss perceived benefits of membership ←
15:26:05 <PhilA2> bhyland: Very professional marketing strategy.
Bernadette Hyland: Very professional marketing strategy. ←
15:26:31 <PhilA2> bhyland: I found myself sitting next to major marketing and software companies. They like W3C, the brains trust etc.
Bernadette Hyland: I found myself sitting next to major marketing and software companies. They like W3C, the brains trust etc. ←
15:27:05 <PhilA2> bhyland: Lots of W3C staff in the Gov Linked Data session I ran
Bernadette Hyland: Lots of W3C staff in the Gov Linked Data session I ran ←
15:27:19 <PhilA2> ... lots of folk from governments from around the world in that session
... lots of folk from governments from around the world in that session ←
15:27:34 <PhilA2> ... there are details in the blog, especially the themes that emerged
... there are details in the blog, especially the themes that emerged ←
15:27:38 <bhyland> Emphasize flexibility & agility. Data interoperability is 20% technology and 80% about organization dynamics â politics and emotions (credit: Bart)
Bernadette Hyland: Emphasize flexibility & agility. Data interoperability is 20% technology and 80% about organization dynamics â politics and emotions (credit: Bart) ←
15:28:02 <bhyland> Common problem is overwhelming government officials with tech speak. Consider having a template from which internal champions can pull language:
Bernadette Hyland: Common problem is overwhelming government officials with tech speak. Consider having a template from which internal champions can pull language: ←
15:28:02 <bhyland> ⢠Financial benefits
Bernadette Hyland: ⢠Financial benefits ←
15:28:02 <bhyland> ⢠Social responsibility benefits
Bernadette Hyland: ⢠Social responsibility benefits ←
15:28:02 <bhyland> ⢠Legal & regulatory benefits
Bernadette Hyland: ⢠Legal & regulatory benefits ←
15:28:02 <bhyland> ⢠Technical benefits
Bernadette Hyland: ⢠Technical benefits ←
15:28:56 <Zakim> +??P31
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P31 ←
15:28:58 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
15:29:01 <PhilA2> bhyland: Communication of the value proposition to government departments was highlighted by Judy Brewer who offered template wording that can be used
Bernadette Hyland: Communication of the value proposition to government departments was highlighted by Judy Brewer who offered template wording that can be used ←
15:29:05 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?
Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call? ←
15:29:05 <Zakim> On the phone I see Mike_Pendleton, olyerickson (muted), agipap, PhilA2, bhyland, Joao Paulo, gatemezin, fadmaa (muted), cygri, Sandro, [IPcaller], martinAlvarez, tinagheen,
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Mike_Pendleton, olyerickson (muted), agipap, PhilA2, bhyland, Joao Paulo, gatemezin, fadmaa (muted), cygri, Sandro, [IPcaller], martinAlvarez, tinagheen, ←
15:29:08 <Zakim> ... BenediktKaempgen, BartvanLeeuwen, ??P31
Zakim IRC Bot: ... BenediktKaempgen, BartvanLeeuwen, ??P31 ←
15:29:08 <Zakim> cygri has mhausenblas
Zakim IRC Bot: cygri has mhausenblas ←
15:29:08 <Zakim> fadmaa has fadmaa, GofShu
Zakim IRC Bot: fadmaa has fadmaa, GofShu ←
15:29:32 <PhilA2> present+ Giancarlo
present+ Giancarlo ←
15:30:03 <bhyland> From Brazilian university community
Bernadette Hyland: From Brazilian university community ←
15:30:10 <PhilA2> Giancarlo: worked on conceptual modelling, ontology development, recent work on gov applications
Giancarlo () Guizzardi: worked on conceptual modelling, ontology development, recent work on gov applications ←
15:30:34 <jpalmeida> Giancarlo Guizzardi is my colleague at the Federal University of EspÃrito Santo, Brazil
Joao Almeida: Giancarlo Guizzardi is my colleague at the Federal University of EspÃrito Santo, Brazil ←
15:30:48 <jpalmeida> we're with the Ontology and Conceptual Modelling Research Group
Joao Almeida: we're with the Ontology and Conceptual Modelling Research Group ←
15:30:51 <bhyland> I concluded my TPAC meetings with an enjoyable meeting with Secretary Delfino Natal de Souza of the Ministry of Planning and two Brazil office staff who participate in the W3C Government Linked Data Working Group.
Bernadette Hyland: I concluded my TPAC meetings with an enjoyable meeting with Secretary Delfino Natal de Souza of the Ministry of Planning and two Brazil office staff who participate in the W3C Government Linked Data Working Group. ←
15:30:51 <jpalmeida> yes
Joao Almeida: yes ←
15:31:41 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
15:32:25 <PhilA2> cygri: I agree with what you've been saying. It was my first TPAC too. Very interesting event
Richard Cyganiak: I agree with what you've been saying. It was my first TPAC too. Very interesting event ←
15:32:56 <PhilA2> cygri: For anyone that spends time on W3C stuff it's highly recommended. You see how other groups are working and you get to meet real people behind the mailing list
Richard Cyganiak: For anyone that spends time on W3C stuff it's highly recommended. You see how other groups are working and you get to meet real people behind the mailing list ←
15:33:16 <PhilA2> cygri: Good to see how the really big groups (CSS, HTML) handle their processes
Richard Cyganiak: Good to see how the really big groups (CSS, HTML) handle their processes ←
15:33:26 <Zakim> -??P31
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P31 ←
15:33:42 <PhilA2> bhyland: HTML5 WG has 200+ people signed up with 75 active - that's a lot...
Bernadette Hyland: HTML5 WG has 200+ people signed up with 75 active - that's a lot... ←
15:34:04 <PhilA2> bhyland: We have a great WG here in GLD, we should be proud
Bernadette Hyland: We have a great WG here in GLD, we should be proud ←
15:34:32 <PhilA2> bhyland: The RDF WG was being very methodical cf. other less focussed groups
Bernadette Hyland: The RDF WG was being very methodical cf. other less focussed groups ←
15:35:05 <PhilA2> PhilA2: Notes that HTML chairs are more or less FT on that job and we have extra paid editors to support them
Phil Archer: Notes that HTML chairs are more or less Full Time on that job and we have extra paid editors to support them ←
15:35:38 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller.a] ←
15:36:09 <PhilA2> s/FT/Full Time/
15:36:25 <bhyland> 99% chance that next TPAC will be in China in Nov 2013
Bernadette Hyland: 99% chance that next TPAC will be in China in Nov 2013 ←
15:37:44 <PhilA2> bhyland: I left with a heightened sense of importance of W3C as a standards body. Grounded, well established etc.
Bernadette Hyland: I left with a heightened sense of importance of W3C as a standards body. Grounded, well established etc. ←
15:38:20 <PhilA2> PhilA2: Wants to shout the name Alexandra Lavirotte who is the primary person to whom congrats are due for the success of TPAC
Phil Archer: Wants to shout the name Alexandra Lavirotte who is the primary person to whom congrats are due for the success of TPAC ←
15:39:09 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
15:39:56 <bhyland> UK Gov't Linked Data WG was held on 5-Nov-2012 was http://data.gov.uk/linked-data/UKGovLD
Bernadette Hyland: UK Gov't Linked Data WG was held on 5-Nov-2012 was http://data.gov.uk/linked-data/UKGovLD ←
15:40:09 <bhyland> Topic: UK Gov't Linked Data WG
15:40:27 <bhyland> Backed by members of staff of local ministry, they provided the venue & support for the event.
Bernadette Hyland: Backed by members of staff of local ministry, they provided the venue & support for the event. ←
15:40:37 <bhyland> Participants were both public & private sector people.
Bernadette Hyland: Participants were both public & private sector people. ←
15:41:44 <bhyland> Per PhilA2, they discussed ⦠vocabularies, best practices. About 40-50 people in the room. About 20 are likely to be active and the usual suspects hopefully will continue to do the heavy lifting ⦠but hope more will join/support their efforts!
Bernadette Hyland: Per PhilA2, they discussed ⦠vocabularies, best practices. About 40-50 people in the room. About 20 are likely to be active and the usual suspects hopefully will continue to do the heavy lifting ⦠but hope more will join/support their efforts! ←
15:41:59 <PhilA2> UK Gov LD WG mailing list http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ukgovld/
UK Gov LD WG mailing list http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ukgovld/ ←
15:42:13 <bhyland> PhilA2 offered the use of W3C infrastructure to facilitate discussions...
Bernadette Hyland: PhilA2 offered the use of W3C infrastructure to facilitate discussions... ←
15:42:53 <bhyland> RE TPAC 2012 GLD breakout, We discussed approaches to resolve the âhttp://www.theodi.org/blog/four-challenges-open-dataâ as described by Jeni Tennison who attended the session.Â
Bernadette Hyland: RE TPAC 2012 GLD breakout, We discussed approaches to resolve the âhttp://www.theodi.org/blog/four-challenges-open-dataâ as described by Jeni Tennison who attended the session. ←
15:43:22 <PhilA2> bhyland: Jeni was at TPAC. She and I and Hadley discussed various things on her blog
Bernadette Hyland: Jeni was at TPAC. She and I and Hadley discussed various things on her blog ←
15:44:32 <cygri> jpalmeida, could you please go to http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/users and add your IRC nickname there? this helps the scribe, otherwise the scribe needs to manually add it in the minutes every week :-)
Richard Cyganiak: jpalmeida, could you please go to http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/users and add your IRC nickname there? this helps the scribe, otherwise the scribe needs to manually add it in the minutes every week :-) ←
15:44:48 <PhilA2> Topic: Agenda Planning
15:45:16 <PhilA2> PhilA2: My strong suggestion for date/p[lace for meeting is http://2013.data-forum.eu/
Phil Archer: My strong suggestion for date/p[lace for meeting is http://2013.data-forum.eu/ ←
15:45:38 <PhilA2> bhyland: Does anyone have suggestions for f2f timing etc.
Bernadette Hyland: Does anyone have suggestions for f2f timing etc. ←
15:45:39 <BartvanLeeuwen> PhilA2, +1
Bart van Leeuwen: PhilA2, +1 ←
15:45:56 <mhausenblas> +1 to EDF but we had Ireland already ;)
Michael Hausenblas: +1 to EDF but we had Ireland already ;) ←
15:45:56 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
15:46:22 <mhausenblas> Michael: Speaking as one of the General Chairs of this event
Michael Hausenblas: Speaking as one of the General Chairs of this event [ Scribe Assist by Michael Hausenblas ] ←
15:46:29 <bhyland> Yeah! Dublin in April :-)
Bernadette Hyland: Yeah! Dublin in April :-) ←
15:46:49 <cygri> q+ to ask about Google Hangout thing that people were talking about
Richard Cyganiak: q+ to ask about Google Hangout thing that people were talking about ←
15:46:53 <gatemezin> But what about 2 times Ireland?
Ghislain Atemezing: But what about 2 times Ireland? ←
15:46:55 <bhyland> PhilA highly encouraged this as a colocation meeting venue/time for the GLD WG
Bernadette Hyland: PhilA highly encouraged this as a colocation meeting venue/time for the GLD WG ←
15:47:14 <PhilA2> cygri: I remember we talked about a Google hangout this year
Richard Cyganiak: I remember we talked about a Google hangout this year ←
15:47:31 <Zakim> -[IPcaller.a]
Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller.a] ←
15:47:45 <BartvanLeeuwen> q+
Bart van Leeuwen: q+ ←
15:47:56 <mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Open_Days
Michael Hausenblas: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Open_Days ←
15:48:03 <BartvanLeeuwen> q+ to ask about isa core vocab status
Bart van Leeuwen: q+ to ask about isa core vocab status ←
15:48:08 <mhausenblas> Michael: but that's really the open office hours
Michael Hausenblas: but that's really the open office hours [ Scribe Assist by Michael Hausenblas ] ←
15:48:09 <cygri> ack me
Richard Cyganiak: ack me ←
15:48:09 <Zakim> cygri, you wanted to ask about Google Hangout thing that people were talking about
Zakim IRC Bot: cygri, you wanted to ask about Google Hangout thing that people were talking about ←
15:48:11 <Zakim> +??P31
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P31 ←
15:48:11 <gatemezin> Doodle : http://doodle.com/9q4bcgp87t862amr
Ghislain Atemezing: Doodle : http://doodle.com/9q4bcgp87t862amr ←
15:48:25 <Zakim> -Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro ←
15:48:30 <PhilA2> bhyland: There was such a discussion, yes...
Bernadette Hyland: There was such a discussion, yes... ←
15:48:42 <PhilA2> PhilA2: I thought we'd settled on Thursday 6 Dec
Phil Archer: I thought we'd settled on Thursday 6 Dec ←
15:49:01 <PhilA2> bhyland: Well then let's make it so
Bernadette Hyland: Well then let's make it so ←
15:49:40 <Zakim> -??P31
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P31 ←
15:49:48 <PhilA2> bhyland: Does anyone from the US want to comment on US travel likelihoods to get to Dublin
Bernadette Hyland: Does anyone from the US want to comment on US travel likelihoods to get to Dublin ←
15:49:58 <PhilA2> Mike_Pendleton: There's no way I could get support to go over seas
Michael Pendleton: There's no way I could get support to go over seas ←
15:50:02 <bhyland> ⦠No support for overseas travel.
Bernadette Hyland: ⦠No support for overseas travel. ←
15:50:04 <PhilA2> tinagheen: +1 to Mike_Pendleton
Tina Gheen: +1 to Mike_Pendleton ←
15:50:37 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller] ←
15:50:50 <PhilA2> mhausenblas: We can get from Galway to Dublin, yes
Michael Hausenblas: We can get from Galway to Dublin, yes ←
15:51:09 <jpalmeida> for some reason I've dropped out
Joao Almeida: for some reason I've dropped out ←
15:51:16 <Zakim> -BenediktKaempgen
Zakim IRC Bot: -BenediktKaempgen ←
15:52:01 <Zakim> +BenediktKaempgen
Zakim IRC Bot: +BenediktKaempgen ←
15:52:05 <bhyland> PhilA re-iterated that F2F meetings are challenging with travel restrictions but really important. We need to ensure people who cannot travel can participate.
Bernadette Hyland: PhilA re-iterated that F2F meetings are challenging with travel restrictions but really important. We need to ensure people who cannot travel can participate. ←
15:52:48 <PhilA2> BenediktKaempgen: I would like to come to Galway or Dublin, yes, if I can. Google Hangout - definitely
Benedikt Kaempgen: I would like to come to Galway or Dublin, yes, if I can. Google Hangout - definitely ←
15:52:58 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
15:53:20 <PhilA2> bhyland: There are people who have faded away from the WG because they're busy doing other things that it would be good to have back
Bernadette Hyland: There are people who have faded away from the WG because they're busy doing other things that it would be good to have back ←
15:53:43 <PhilA2> bhyland: To new people, I hope we can quickly find something for you to get your teeth into
Bernadette Hyland: To new people, I hope we can quickly find something for you to get your teeth into ←
15:54:01 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller.a] ←
15:54:06 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
15:54:12 <PhilA2> ack BartvanLeeuwen
ack BartvanLeeuwen ←
15:54:12 <Zakim> BartvanLeeuwen, you wanted to ask about isa core vocab status
Zakim IRC Bot: BartvanLeeuwen, you wanted to ask about isa core vocab status ←
15:54:16 <bhyland> Ack Bart
Bernadette Hyland: Ack Bart ←
15:54:51 <Zakim> +Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro ←
15:54:52 <PhilA2> BartvanLeeuwen: On agenda planning - something I'd like on an agenda... there was some discussion about the ISA core vocs and the w3.org namespace...
Bart van Leeuwen: On agenda planning - something I'd like on an agenda... there was some discussion about the ISA core vocs and the w3.org namespace... ←
15:55:08 <sandro> (sorry, back -- had to drop off for a minute -- in person interruption)
Sandro Hawke: (sorry, back -- had to drop off for a minute -- in person interruption) ←
15:55:09 <jpalmeida> I'm back
Joao Almeida: I'm back ←
15:55:47 <bhyland> TOPIC: ISA Programme Vocabs
15:56:07 <cygri> q+ to suggest review of open, overdue and pending-review actions for one of the next calls
Richard Cyganiak: q+ to suggest review of open, overdue and pending-review actions for one of the next calls ←
15:56:13 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller] ←
15:56:27 <bhyland> PhilA: Status of W3 namespace and approval to FPWS is dependent upon this group. They are actively on the "front burner"
Phil Archer: Status of W3 namespace and approval to FPWS is dependent upon this group. They are actively on the "front burner" [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←
15:56:46 <sandro> at iswc
Sandro Hawke: at iswc ←
15:56:52 <PhilA2> BartvanLeeuwen: Next week is ISWC so can we discuss those vocabs in 2 weeks' time?
Bart van Leeuwen: Next week is ISWC so can we discuss those vocabs in 2 weeks' time? ←
15:56:56 <BartvanLeeuwen> at iswc
Bart van Leeuwen: at iswc ←
15:56:56 <GofShu> an i am
Gofran Shukair: an i am ←
15:56:59 <PhilA2> bhyland: Who is at ISWC next week then?
Bernadette Hyland: Who is at ISWC next week then? ←
15:57:17 <gatemezin> +1 to be there
Ghislain Atemezing: +1 to be there ←
15:57:21 <PhilA2> bhyland: More than 4... I'll have a chat with George and see whether we should have a meeting next week
Bernadette Hyland: More than 4... I'll have a chat with George and see whether we should have a meeting next week ←
15:57:23 <bhyland> Sounds like about 4 people from our WG will be at Boston at ISWC.
Bernadette Hyland: Sounds like about 4 people from our WG will be at Boston at ISWC. ←
15:57:42 <PhilA2> bhyland: We'll let you know, no later than Tuesday whether we have a meeting next week
Bernadette Hyland: We'll let you know, no later than Tuesday whether we have a meeting next week ←
15:58:00 <PhilA2> bhyland: I think a number of us came back from TPAC feeling pretty energised...
Bernadette Hyland: I think a number of us came back from TPAC feeling pretty energised... ←
15:58:05 <olyerickson> BartvanLeeuwen: we could talk... email me your skype
Bart van Leeuwen: we could talk... email me your skype [ Scribe Assist by John Erickson ] ←
15:58:07 <cygri> q?
Richard Cyganiak: q? ←
15:58:13 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
15:58:20 <PhilA2> ack cygri
ack cygri ←
15:58:20 <Zakim> cygri, you wanted to suggest review of open, overdue and pending-review actions for one of the next calls
Zakim IRC Bot: cygri, you wanted to suggest review of open, overdue and pending-review actions for one of the next calls ←
15:58:56 <PhilA2> cygri: Since we had agenda planning on the agenda - I wanted to suggest we reviewed actions and issues, to see which are still relevant
Richard Cyganiak: Since we had agenda planning on the agenda - I wanted to suggest we reviewed actions and issues, to see which are still relevant ←
15:59:08 <PhilA2> cygri: Can we make the tracker relevant again
Richard Cyganiak: Can we make the tracker relevant again ←
15:59:17 <PhilA2> rrsagent, make logs public
rrsagent, make logs public ←
15:59:28 <PhilA2> bhyland: Will do, yes. +1 Richard
Bernadette Hyland: Will do, yes. +1 Richard ←
15:59:30 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
15:59:40 <Zakim> -Mike_Pendleton
Zakim IRC Bot: -Mike_Pendleton ←
15:59:40 <PhilA2> bhyland: Thanks everyone
Bernadette Hyland: Thanks everyone ←
15:59:41 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
15:59:42 <BartvanLeeuwen> thx bhyland
Bart van Leeuwen: thx bhyland ←
15:59:56 <Zakim> -tinagheen
Zakim IRC Bot: -tinagheen ←
15:59:56 <Zakim> -martinAlvarez
Zakim IRC Bot: -martinAlvarez ←
15:59:56 <olyerickson> buy!
John Erickson: buy! ←
15:59:56 <PhilA2> meeting adjourned
meeting adjourned ←
15:59:56 <jpalmeida> thx bye
Joao Almeida: thx bye ←
15:59:57 <Zakim> -BenediktKaempgen
Zakim IRC Bot: -BenediktKaempgen ←
15:59:57 <Zakim> -cygri
Zakim IRC Bot: -cygri ←
15:59:58 <Zakim> -agipap
Zakim IRC Bot: -agipap ←
15:59:58 <Zakim> -Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro ←
16:00:00 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller] ←
16:00:00 <GofShu> bye
Gofran Shukair: bye ←
16:00:02 <Zakim> -gatemezin
Zakim IRC Bot: -gatemezin ←
16:00:02 <Zakim> -bhyland
Zakim IRC Bot: -bhyland ←
16:00:04 <Zakim> -olyerickson
Zakim IRC Bot: -olyerickson ←
16:00:04 <Zakim> -BartvanLeeuwen
Zakim IRC Bot: -BartvanLeeuwen ←
16:00:05 <Zakim> -PhilA2
Zakim IRC Bot: -PhilA2 ←
16:00:05 <Zakim> -jpalmeida
Zakim IRC Bot: -jpalmeida ←
16:00:13 <Zakim> -fadmaa
Zakim IRC Bot: -fadmaa ←
16:00:14 <bhyland> @olyerickson ⦠you were very quiet ⦠are you OK?
Bernadette Hyland: @olyerickson ⦠you were very quiet ⦠are you OK? ←
16:00:20 <PhilA2> zakim, bye
zakim, bye ←
16:00:22 <Zakim> leaving. As of this point the attendees were Mike_Pendleton, olyerickson, PhilA2, +1.540.898.aaaa, agipap, +3539149aacc, cygri, fadmaa, gatemezin, Sandro, [IPcaller], mhausenblas,
Zakim IRC Bot: leaving. As of this point the attendees were Mike_Pendleton, olyerickson, PhilA2, +1.540.898.aaaa, agipap, +3539149aacc, cygri, fadmaa, gatemezin, Sandro, [IPcaller], mhausenblas, ←
16:00:22 <Zakim> ... bhyland, Joao Paulo, martinAlvarez, GofShu, tinagheen, +49.721.aadd, BenediktKaempgen, BartvanLeeuwen
Zakim IRC Bot: ... bhyland, Joao Paulo, martinAlvarez, GofShu, tinagheen, +49.721.aadd, BenediktKaempgen, BartvanLeeuwen ←
16:00:35 <bhyland> zakim, aaaa is me
Bernadette Hyland: zakim, aaaa is me ←
16:00:36 <PhilA2> rrsagent, generate minutes
rrsagent, generate minutes ←
16:00:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/11/08-gld-minutes.html PhilA2
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/11/08-gld-minutes.html PhilA2 ←
16:00:58 <cygri> PhilA2, this group uses commonscribe, not RRSAgent
Richard Cyganiak: PhilA2, this group uses commonscribe, not RRSAgent ←
16:01:14 <cygri> https://www.w3.org/2009/CommonScribe/panel/?group=gld
Richard Cyganiak: https://www.w3.org/2009/CommonScribe/panel/?group=gld ←
16:01:16 <PhilA2> cygri: Yes, I know, but I trust RRSagent more ;-)
Richard Cyganiak: Yes, I know, but I trust RRSagent more ;-) ←
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