<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10839] Providing visible indication that descriptions and captions are available. <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1573.html> 4** [Bug 10839] New: Providing visible indication that descriptions and captions are available. <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1572.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10840] Allow the user to independently adjust the volumes of the audio description and original soundtracks. <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1585.html> 4** [Bug 10844] Mono ruby, group ruby, and jukugo ruby <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1584.html> 4** [Bug 10844] New: Mono ruby, group ruby, and jukugo ruby <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzi
<pimpbot> changes: hixie: typo (whatwg r5564) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Sep/0177.html> 4** hixie: Revamp how the foreign lands are defined to make it easier to add the U+0000 handling. This checkin should have no normative effect. If there are any normative changes in this patch, that's a bug, pleasel let me know ASAP. (whatwg r5563) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Sep/0176.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9659] Initial U+0000 should not set frameset-ok to "not ok" <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1587.html> 4** [Bug 10845] New: Clarify the difference between @srcdoc documents and @srcdoc value <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1586.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9843] Specced behavior for document.write("<link rel=stylesheet href=...><script>...</script>...") matches none of the top 4 engines <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1589.html> 4** [Bug 9767] Consider ignoring document.write() when IE ignores it if comes from the network task source <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1588.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10838] Make <u> conforming. <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1590.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10804] charset sniffing: please describe the incompatibility <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1592.html> 4** [Bug 10805] treating single quotes as double quotes not needed for compatibility with existing content <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1591.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10804] charset sniffing: please describe the incompatibility <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1595.html> 4** [Bug 10806] ignoring escapes is not needed for compatibility with existing content <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1594.html> 4** [Bug 10809] i18n comment 3 : new attribute: submitdir <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1593.h
<pimpbot> changes: hixie: List some of the differences, to make Julian happier. (whatwg r5565) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Sep/0178.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10355] Kill most or all of the special IDL attributes for marquee <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1599.html> 4** "[Bug 9843] Specced behavior for document.write("<link rel=stylesheet href=...><script>...</script>...") matches none of the top 4 engines" (2 messages in thread) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1598.html> 4** "[Bug 10804] charset sniffing: please descri
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10809] i18n comment 3 : new attribute: submitdir <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1611.html> 4** [Bug 10410] On getting, should the UA percent-decode document.location.hash? It's not clear. <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1610.html> 4** [Bug 7444] EUC-JP and ISO-2022-JP also need replacement encodings: CP51932 (or eucJP-ms) and CP50221. <11http://lists.w3.org/Archi
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10410] On getting, should the UA percent-decode document.location.hash? It's not clear. <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1614.html> 4** [Bug 10838] Make <u> conforming. <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1613.html> 4** [Bug 7444] EUC-JP and ISO-2022-JP also need replacement encodings: CP51932 (or eucJP-ms) and CP50221. <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htm
<pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 10838] Make <u> conforming." (2 messages in thread) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1618.html> 4** [Bug 10589] figure and figcaption shouldn't automatically close p <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1616.html> 4** [Bug 9767] Consider ignoring document.write() when IE ignores it if comes from the network task source <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10806] ignoring escapes is not needed for compatibility with existing content <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1635.html> 4** [Bug 10845] Clarify the difference between @srcdoc documents and @srcdoc value <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1634.html> 4** [Bug 10843] Support user control over the visual presentation of caption text. <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Publ
<pimpbot> changes: hixie: Remove confusing paragraphs (whatwg r5567) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Sep/0180.html> 4** hixie: Put method=DELETE and method=PUT to rest. (whatwg r5566) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Sep/0179.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10738] Insert 'data-' in the heading/table of contents (editorial) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1651.html> 4** [Bug 10804] charset sniffing: please describe the incompatibility <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1650.html> 4** "[Bug 10806] ignoring escapes is not needed for compatibility with existing content" (2 messages in thread) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives
<pimpbot> changes: hixie: vaguely push people towards a polyglot-compatible doctype (whatwg r5570) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Sep/0183.html> 4** hixie: remove anything to do with ARIA from the definitions of table elements (whatwg r5569) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Sep/0182.html> 4** hixie: title change (whatwg r5568) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Sep/0181.html
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10693] Need a means for navigating between related timed tracks of media elements <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1673.html> 4** [Bug 10672] the media element onplay event is not always called when the user hits the play button <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1672.html> 4** [Bug 10842] Support the isolation of speech from other background sounds in AV media <11htt
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10802] Limit the number of identical items on the list of active formatting elements by removing previous duplicates when adding new items <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1686.html> 4** [Bug 10831] Provide tablist and tab states for menu and command elements respectively <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1685.html> 4** [Bug 10801] Limit the number of iterations in th
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10806] ignoring escapes is not needed for compatibility with existing content <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1698.html> 4** "[Bug 10642] No alternative text description for video key frame (poster)" (2 messages in thread) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1697.html> 4** [Bug 10803] Ignore document.written charset metas <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10844] Mono ruby, group ruby, and jukugo ruby <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1703.html> 4** [Bug 10806] ignoring escapes is not needed for compatibility with existing content <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1702.html> 4** [Bug 10844] Mono ruby, group ruby, and jukugo ruby <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1701.html> 4** "[Bug
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10798] Find a new home for Selection <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1705.html> 4** [Bug 10635] I could be reading the spec wrong, but are the default flow behaviors for these elements undefined? Will an article be rendered as a block-level element, or have no effect on flow at all? I've found several top-teir web-dev ref sites which all have differ <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugz
<Julian> anne, was I also trolling when I pointed out the bug that hixie already fixed?
<anne> dunno
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10805] treating single quotes as double quotes not needed for compatibility with existing content <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1708.html> 4** [Bug 10642] No alternative text description for video key frame (poster) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1707.html> 4** [Bug 10847] New: Could small be achieved with a more general statement? Eg, Legal, notice etc. Its ver
<anne> Julian, don't think so no
<anne> (having looked at it now)
<anne> why?
<Julian> I was just wondering whether questioning "willful violations", and checking them with test cases now always is called "trolling", or whether it depends on the specific case.
<anne> it's trolling because all impls do one thing and rather than figuring out why that is so and working with them to do something else you try to solve it via the Process which will ultimately hang on impls not doing what the spec says
<Julian> it's incorrect to say "all do that"
<anne> all minus konquerer, which we never take into account
<Julian> also, I *do* plan to resolve this in the other implementations as well, but to do that, it would be helpful if the specs said the same thing
<Julian> ah, "we"
<Julian> Why not?
<anne> no market share?
<anne> there might be all kinds of obscure UAs out there that do not match the major implementations; but when it comes down to deciding what is likely important they are not all that reelvant
<anne> (minus typos)
<Julian> ok, so does Opera count? It appears to do the right thing for my test case.
<anne> we are changing our behavior
<anne> as I indicated
<anne> we have found encountered several problems with not doing charset matching like Firefox -- and it seems WebKit has found the same; just didn't make it into Safari quite yet
<anne> what would be interesting here is whether UAs handle quoted strings with escapes throughout HTTP
<anne> and is there a difference between <meta> and via HTTP headers
<anne> etc.
<Julian> I think you need to supply the data for that; the WG should have the chance to decide what's worse; overriding a base spec, or "breaking" content; to do that, we need more data
<Julian> yes
<anne> we don't need to provide anything
<Julian> aha
<anne> it's pretty clear that for us it makes more sense to match Firefox etc.
<Julian> I know that several UAs do not treat quoted strings properly (in HTTP), but the question is whether it can be fixed
<Julian> I'm sorry, but that's not convincing
<anne> you don't think that makes sense?
<Julian> no, what makes sense is to do what the spec says unless there's proof it can't be done
<anne> hahaha
<Julian> very helpful
<anne> yeah well, i could tell you stories about browser QA, but past experience (and this reply) suggests you will keep the same line of thinking
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10806] ignoring escapes is not needed for compatibility with existing content <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1712.html> 4** [Bug 10642] No alternative text description for video key frame (poster) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1711.html> 4** [Bug 10805] treating single quotes as double quotes not needed for compatibility with existing content <11http://lists.w3
<Julian> MikeSmith, any news on the link relation type registrations? I haven't seen anything new for ~3 weeks or so...
I've had little time to follow up on it personally
<Julian> I would volunteer, but then I'd have to negotiate with myself :-)
<Julian> Maybe ask on public-html for volunteers?
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10642] No alternative text description for video key frame (poster) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1717.html> 4** [Bug 10830] i18n comment : Please add support for rb <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1716.html> 4** [Bug 10067] this only lists entities whose replacement text is a single character, for example many of the negated operators, for example <11http://lis
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10320] Allow an arbitrary string as the voice for forwards compatilbity <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1722.html> 4** [Bug 10642] No alternative text description for video key frame (poster) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1721.html> 4** [Bug 10067] this only lists entities whose replacement text is a single character, for example many of the negated operators, fo
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10661] use an ISO 639-2 specified language for HTML5 documents <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1727.html> 4** [Bug 10839] Providing visible indication that descriptions and captions are available. <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1726.html> 4** [Bug 10419] <video> should allow muted as a content attribute <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/
<Julian> Henri, I've got a question on the HTML5 XSLT requirements
<Julian> 8http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#interactions-with-xpath-and-xslt)
<pimpbot> Title: HTML5 (at dev.w3.org)
<Julian> (http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#interactions-with-xpath-and-xslt)
<Julian> "This requirement is a willful violation of the XSLT 1.0 specification, required because this specification changes the namespaces and case-sensitivity rules of HTML in a manner that would otherwise be incompatible with DOM-based XSLT transformations. (Processors that serialize the output are unaffected.) [XSLT10]"
<Julian> the spec talks about outputting to a DOM, but XSLT 1.0 says that output method only applies when the tree is serialized...
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10642] No alternative text description for video key frame (poster) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1736.html> 4** [Bug 10849] provide means to add image content catagories to images <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1735.html> 4** [Bug 10853] New: HTML5 lacks a verbose description mechanism <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1734.ht
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10775] how is user to decide which set of access keys to use? <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1743.html> 4** [Bug 10642] No alternative text description for video key frame (poster) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1742.html> 4** [Bug 9659] Initial U+0000 should not set frameset-ok to "not ok" <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1741
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10851] Javascript access to rendered (calculated) styling information of a DOM node <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1746.html> 4** [Bug 10849] provide means to add image content catagories to images <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1745.html> 4** [Bug 10642] No alternative text description for video key frame (poster) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-h
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10853] HTML5 lacks a verbose description mechanism <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1750.html> 4** "[Bug 10849] provide means to add image content catagories to images" (2 messages in thread) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1749.html> 4** [Bug 10642] No alternative text description for video key frame (poster) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugz
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10862] Remove the newly added "s" element <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1757.html> 4** [Bug 9429] Unobsolete the <strike> element - instead suggest how to use it <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1756.html> 4** "[Bug 10862] Remove the newly added "s" element" (2 messages in thread) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Sep/1755.html> 4
trackbot, start meeting
<trackbot> Date: 30 September 2010
<scribe> scribe: MikeSmith
action-187?
<trackbot> ACTION-187 -- Maciej Stachowiak to inform the group that no comments on issue-9 requirements means they will be accepted -- due 2010-09-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/187
rubys: I will get with Maciej about this offline
issue-125?
<trackbot> ISSUE-125 -- Requirement to break RFC 2616 compliance with respect to single quotes not needed for legacy content -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/125
issue-126?
<trackbot> ISSUE-126 -- Requirement to break RFC 2616 compliance with respect to backslashes not needed for legacy content -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/126
issue-127?
<trackbot> ISSUE-127 -- Simplify characterization of link types -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/127
<rubys> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=HTML+WG&keywords=TrackerRequest
rubys: we also have 14 tracker requests
… so I expect the number of issues to go up
issue-117
issue-117?
<trackbot> ISSUE-117 -- Deprecate the noscript element -- closed
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/117
<rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Sep/0225.html
rubys: first is about canvas accessibility
issue-74?
<trackbot> ISSUE-74 -- How accessibility works for <canvas> is unclear. -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/74
issue-105?
<trackbot> ISSUE-105 -- allow image maps on the canvas element -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/105
rubys: any comments about how we should proceed on these?
<rubys> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/issue-103-objection-poll
issue-103?
<trackbot> ISSUE-103 -- XML escaping in iframe/@srcdoc -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/103
rubys: that poll completed yesterday
issue-41?
<trackbot> ISSUE-41 -- Decentralized extensibility -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/41
<rubys> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/issue-41-objection-poll/
rubys: issue-41 poll is open to Oct 7
… Leif had asked for an extension, that has since been resolved, so we will keep in the original schedule
issue-118
issue-118?
<trackbot> ISSUE-118 -- Specification breaks semantics of existing link relations "index" and "first" -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/118
issue-118 poll is due Oct 17
issue-122?
<trackbot> ISSUE-122 -- alt text and description for Lady of Shalott example -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/122
issue-122 poll is also due Oct 17
issue-123?
<trackbot> ISSUE-123 -- Autofocus attribute security concerns -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/123
issue-123 poll is also due Oct 17
issue-119?
<trackbot> ISSUE-119 -- Certain relationships take on a special meaning when repeated; other solutions may be cleaner -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/119
issue-119 poll is due Oct 24
issue-27?
<trackbot> ISSUE-27 -- @rel value ownership, registry consideration -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/27
rubys: issue-27, we got input from Mark Nottingham
<rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Sep/0187.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Sep/0187.html
issue-121?
<trackbot> ISSUE-121 -- Do not ignore HTTP caching rules -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/121
rubys: proposals for issue-121 are due Oct 30
issue-92?
<trackbot> ISSUE-92 -- Re-write the Table section to remove extraneous material, and provide cleaner description -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/92
rubys: issue 92 survey closes Oct 7
bug 10066
<rubys> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?bug_id=10463,10594,10467,10618,10464,10593,10444,10487,10614,10446,10449,10493,10478,8000,10451,10438,10445,10462,10486,10450,10441,10496,10592,10452,10485,9817,10603,10440,10479,10447,10439,10591,10465,10481,10448,10494,10600
@bug 10066
cynthia: in the next day or two, we will be having some discussion about whether any of those need to be reactived
issue-85?
<trackbot> ISSUE-85 -- ARIA roles added to the a element should be conforming in HTML5 -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/85
issue-9?
<trackbot> ISSUE-9 -- how accessibility works for <video> is unclear -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/9
<krisk> We met as planned on 9/21/2010 and will meet again on 10/5/2010
<krisk> Notes -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2010Sep/0030.html
<krisk> We now have 163 approved tests up from 138 since I last reported.
<krisk> I still expect to be over 200 approved tests when I report back on 10/14/2010
<krisk> Bug #10632 has been fixed, so we currently have zero bugs on approved tests
<krisk> Good discussion on more canvas tests all which have been updated by Philiptaylor per feedback from the group
<krisk> Only exception is http://test.w3.org/html/tests/submission/PhilipTaylor/canvas/2d.missingargs.html
<krisk> The test needs more consensus on the expected exception, current diff http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html/rev/5b059ccfed28
<krisk> Video_008.htm and Video_006.htm have been updated and approved per feedback from Mozilla, Opera
<krisk> I plan extending the schedule for meetings, same time/etc
<krisk> I'll place the new dates on the wiki as well http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/Testing
<krisk> If you have feedback on the time, please send feedback to the list
MikeSmith: http://www.w3.org/2010/09/30-html-a11y-minutes.html
... the main thing we discussed this week was making sure we
had all our bugs filed for the Oct 1 deadline
... for those interested, details from our discussion this week
in the a11y TF are in the minutes
<Julian> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Sep/0395.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Sep/0395.html
Julian: we need somebody from the HTML WG to follow up on the link-relations registry requests
<scribe> ACTION: Sam to assign a member of the HTML WG to follow up on link-relations registry requests [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/09/30-html-wg-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-188 - Assign a member of the HTML WG to follow up on link-relations registry requests [on Sam Ruby - due 2010-10-07].
<Julian> rubys, sound good
Sam will scribe next week
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