ISSUE-119: Certain relationships take on a special meaning when repeated; other solutions may be cleaner

rel-repetition

Certain relationships take on a special meaning when repeated; other solutions may be cleaner

State:
CLOSED
Product:
pre-LC1 HTML 5 spec
Raised by:
Julian Reschke
Opened on:
2010-09-15
Description:
The "up" link relation, when repeated, has a meaning of multiple levels up, depending on the repeat count. This is an incompatible change from HTML4, and also inconsistent with other specifications that use link relations (Atom, HTTP Link header).

A specific point of concern: relList lists repeated relations only once, and therefore does not convey the semantics of repetition.

Note that finding a substitute for the "repeated relation" pattern is not an objective of this issue. If people feel that this is a desirable feature, then it should be pursued as separate proposal.

The related bugzilla bug is: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7543

HTML5-SPEC-SECTIONS [link-type-up]
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Related emails:
  1. {minutes} HTML WG telecon 2011-03-10: Action items, issues, surveys and decisions (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2011-03-11)
  2. {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2011-03-10: Action items, issues, surveys and decisions (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2011-03-08)
  3. Re: ISSUE-119 rel-repetition: Call for Consensus to close by amicable resolution (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2011-03-08)
  4. {minutes} HTML WG telecon 2011-03-03: Issues, Decisions, Task Force Reports, and Other Business (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2011-03-04)
  5. RE: {minutes} HTML WG telecon 2011-03-03: Issues, Decisions, Task Force Reports, and Other Business (from adrianba@microsoft.com on 2011-03-03)
  6. {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2011-03-03: Issues, Decisions, Task Force Reports, and Other Business (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2011-03-02)
  7. Re: ISSUE-119 rel-repetition: Call for Consensus to close by amicable resolution (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2011-03-01)
  8. Re: ISSUE-119 rel-repetition: Call for Consensus to close by amicable resolution (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2011-03-01)
  9. Re: ISSUE-119 rel-repetition: Call for Consensus to close by amicable resolution (from mjs@apple.com on 2011-02-28)
  10. Re: ISSUE-119 rel-repetition: Call for Consensus to close by amicable resolution (from Simetrical+w3c@gmail.com on 2011-02-28)
  11. ISSUE-119 rel-repetition: Call for Consensus to close by amicable resolution (from mjs@apple.com on 2011-02-28)
  12. {minutes} HTML WG telecon 2011-02-24: Action items and Issues (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2011-02-24)
  13. {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2011-02-24: Action items and Issues (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2011-02-23)
  14. {minutes} HTML WG telecon 2011-02-03: Issues, surveys (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2011-02-03)
  15. {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2011-02-03: Issues, surveys (from mjs@apple.com on 2011-02-02)
  16. Re: CfC: close ISSUE-119 rel-repetition by amicable resolution (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2011-02-02)
  17. Re: CfC: close ISSUE-119 rel-repetition by amicable resolution (from ian@hixie.ch on 2011-02-01)
  18. Re: CfC: close ISSUE-119 rel-repetition by amicable resolution (from mjs@apple.com on 2011-02-01)
  19. {minutes} HTML WG Telecon 2010-01-27: status of actions, new issues, closing items, new calls, charter status (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2011-01-27)
  20. {agenda} HTML WG Telecon 2010-01-27: status of actions, new issues, closing items, new calls, charter status (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2011-01-26)
  21. RE: {minutes} HTML WG Telecon 2010-01-20: status of actions, calls; task force reports (from adrianba@microsoft.com on 2011-01-20)
  22. {agenda} HTML WG Telecon 2010-01-20: status of actions, calls; task force reports (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2011-01-18)
  23. Re: CfC: close ISSUE-119 rel-repetition by amicable resolution (from ian@hixie.ch on 2011-01-18)
  24. CfC: close ISSUE-119 rel-repetition by amicable resolution (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2011-01-18)
  25. {agenda} HTML WG Telecon 2010-12-16: status of actions, calls, new decisions, task force reports (from mjs@apple.com on 2011-01-12)
  26. {minutes} HTML WG Telecon 2011-01-06: status of actions, calls, deadlines, task force reports (from plh@w3.org on 2011-01-11)
  27. HTML WG Telecon 2010-12-16: status of actions, calls; task force reports (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2011-01-05)
  28. RE: {minutes} HTML WG Telecon 2010-12-02: status, task force reports, deadlines and publications, meeting schedule (from adrianba@microsoft.com on 2010-12-02)
  29. {agenda} HTML WG Telecon 2010-12-02: status, task force reports, deadlines and publications, meeting schedule (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2010-12-01)
  30. ISSUE-119 rel-repetition - Chairs Solicit Alternate Proposals or Counter-Proposals (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2010-12-01)
  31. {minutes} HTML WG Telecon 2010-11-18: status of actions, calls, issues, meeting schedule, timeline to LC status (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2010-11-21)
  32. {agenda} HTML WG Telecon 2010-11-18: status of actions, calls, issues, meeting schedule, timeline to LC status (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2010-11-17)
  33. {minutes} HTML WG F2F minutes, Lyon, France, Nov 4-5 Part 2 (3rd time's the charm) (from mike@w3.org on 2010-11-10)
  34. {minutes} HTML WG F2F minutes, Lyon, France, Nov 4-5 Part 1 (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2010-11-09)
  35. {minutes} } HTML WG Telecon 2010-10-21: status of actions, calls, issues, heartbeat drafts, and TPAC (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2010-10-21)
  36. {agenda} HTML WG Telecon 2010-10-21: status of actions, calls, issues, heartbeat drafts, and TPAC (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2010-10-20)
  37. Change Proposal for ISSUE-119 (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2010-10-19)
  38. {agenda} HTML WG Telecon 2010-09-30 status of calls, issues and bugs, Task Force Reports (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2010-09-28)
  39. RE: {minutes} HTML WG Telecon 2010-09-23 status of calls, issues and bugs, TPAC F2F (from adrianba@microsoft.com on 2010-09-23)
  40. {agenda} HTML WG Telecon 2010-09-23 status of calls, issues and bugs, TPAC F2F (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2010-09-22)
  41. ISSUE-119 (rel-repetition): Chairs Solicit Proposals (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2010-09-21)
  42. Re: ISSUE-119 (Certain relationships take on a special meaning when repeated; other solutions may be cleaner) (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2010-09-18)
  43. Re: ISSUE-119 (Certain relationships take on a special meaning when repeated; other solutions may be cleaner) (from mjs@apple.com on 2010-09-18)
  44. ISSUE-119 (Certain relationships take on a special meaning when repeated; other solutions may be cleaner) (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2010-09-18)
  45. {agenda} HTML WG Telecon 2010-09-09 status of calls, heartbeat, last call; task force reports; bugzilla notifications, discussion guidelines (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2010-09-15)
  46. [Bug 7543] Consensus on ietf-http-wg was that repetition of relations is meaningless and we should rather use numbering (e.g. 'up2'), names (e.g. 'great-grandparent') or an attribute (e.g. level='3'). (from bugzilla@jessica.w3.org on 2010-09-15)
  47. ISSUE-119 (rel-repetition): Certain relationships take on a special meaning when repeated; other solutions may be cleaner [HTML 5 spec] (from sysbot+tracker@w3.org on 2010-09-15)

Related notes:

Compat issue with the current spec: http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/whatwg/20100917#l-1078

Julian Reschke, 18 Sep 2010, 08:44:19

Closed by amicable resolution: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Mar/0187.html

Sam Ruby, 8 Mar 2011, 16:34:20

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