Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference -- 15 Jul 2009

<trackbot> Date: 15 July 2009

<davy> scribenick: davy

1. ADMIN

Accept minutes on http://www.w3.org/2009/06/24-mediafrag-minutes.html?

<mhausenblas> +1

<erik> +1

<Yves> +1

<Gui> +1

erik: minutes accepted

2. UC & REQUIREMENTS

erik: actions still ongoing
... Rapha�l promised to do A-65 today

mhausenblas: can someone else do this action?

erik: if Rapha�l is overloaded, we would be happy to support him
... we will ask him next time he's around
... other actions: waiting for feedback

3. SPECIFICATION

erik: Yves, status A-49?

Yves: wait for the HTTP meeting
... it should be quite easy to draft this syntax

mhausenblas: anything in HTTP bis specs that affect our group?

Yves: I see us as a consumer of the HTTP specs
... but we need to ensure that what we use is well defined

erik: explaining the edit units mail

close ACTION-84

<trackbot> ACTION-84 Summarize the info from Jean Pierre, and mail it to the group closed

erik: regarding A-86, should we bring the comma optional?
... we can do a vote?

<conrad> optional +1

mhausenblas: is anybody against?

<erik> optional +1

<Gui> looking back into the last acceoted minutes, we had silvia stating it as option and 3 additional votes

<mhausenblas> Previous: 2009-06-24 http://www.w3.org/2009/06/24-mediafrag-minutes.html

<Gui> This was http://www.w3.org/2009/06/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03

<scribe> ACTION: Yves to verify that making the comma optional brings no ambiguities in our syntax [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-88 - Verify that making the comma optional brings no ambiguities in our syntax [on Yves Lafon - due 2009-07-22].

<conrad> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/HTTP_Examples

erik: regarding A-63 ...

conrad: explaining the examples on the wiki page

erik: any comments?

Yves: did you changed the examples according to my comments?

conrad: yes, i did

close action-63

<trackbot> ACTION-63 Update the Wiki with his more general approach with precisely the same examples closed

close action-80

<trackbot> ACTION-80 Provide some rational and use cases for his proposal closed

conrad: A-69 is still ongoing

<mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/Semantics

mhausenblas: A-64 is only possible after splitting the document (cfr. A-65)

<mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/UserAgentMediaFragmentResolution

mhausenblas: A-87 is ongoing

5. ISSUES

close action-76

<trackbot> ACTION-76 Contact the editors of MPEG-21 Part 17 regarding the registry of their scheme closed

erik: not clear yet if MPEG fragment identifiers are registered

<mhausenblas> I'm looking at http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4288

section 4.11

<mhausenblas> Michael: really two issues here

<scribe> ACTION: Yves to find out more about fragment identifier registration [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-89 - Find out more about fragment identifier registration [on Yves Lafon - due 2009-07-22].

<mhausenblas> Michael: one is re the SHOULD re frags in sec 4.11 of RFC4288

erik: status on a-62?

Yves: sent a mail to TAG, but no feedback yet

<mhausenblas> Michael: other is re registered image/*, video/* and audio/* - to me the answer here is: no, MPEG21 only has registered application/mp21 and hence we there is no clash

mhausenblas: A-82 is still ongoing
... this depends on reviewing and discussing the test cases

erik: resolutions for i-4 and i-10?
... no resolution yet on i-4, to be discussed further

<mhausenblas> Michael: re issue 10 the answer is easy

<mhausenblas> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009May/0038.html

<Gui> We may need an action to resolve ISSUE-4.

<Gui> We should find what action ( or maybe a vote) is required at any next teleconf when Silvia is present

6. IMPLEMENTATION

erik: status?
... first work further on syntax and test cases?

<Gui> Yves has looked at libraries in Java

<Gui> Jack ( I think ) has looked at libraries in Python

Yves: looking for media slicing tools is part of the work, but do not depend on the syntax
... so we can start working on this kind of things
... not found a suitable non-transcoding media slicing tool

<Gui> Yves asks for help for implementation : how to slice the media without transcoding

<mhausenblas> scribenick: mhausenblas

<scribe> scribenick: davy

<scribe> ACTION: davy to provide a pointer to Yves to a lib he can use to slice media files [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-90 - Provide a pointer to Yves to a lib he can use to slice media files [on Davy Van Deursen - due 2009-07-22].

<mhausenblas> scribenick: mhausenblas

Previous: 2009-06-24 http://www.w3.org/2009/06/24-mediafrag-minutes.html

<scribe> scribenick: davy

<scribe> ACTION: Gui to look at the python gst lib [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-mediafrag-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Gui

<Gui> python-gst (gstreamer)

erik: aob?

Gui: do we need an action about writing papers

<Gui> Should an action be created on co-authoring and publishing papers in order to remind/coordinate the efforts?

<scribe> ACTION: Guillaume to look at the python gst lib [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-mediafrag-minutes.html#action05]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-91 - Look at the python gst lib [on Guillaume (Jean-Louis) Olivrin - due 2009-07-22].

<Gui> thanks

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Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference

15 Jul 2009

Attendees

Contents

1. ADMIN

2. UC & REQUIREMENTS

3. SPECIFICATION

5. ISSUES

6. IMPLEMENTATION

Summary of Action Items

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