IRC log of mediafrag on 2009-07-15
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-mediafrag-irc
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- Zakim, this will be IA_MFWG
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- ok, trackbot, I see IA_MFWG()8:00AM already started
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- Meeting: Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 15 July 2009
- 12:02:44 [Gui]
- zakim, status
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- I don't understand 'status', Gui
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- zakim, +2712841aabb is Gui
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- +Gui; got it
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- +??P4
- 12:04:01 [davy]
- Zakim, ??P4 is Davy
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- +Davy; got it
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- + +3539149aacc
- 12:04:16 [mhausenblas]
- Zakim, aacc is me
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- +mhausenblas; got it
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- Zakim, ??P1 is me
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- +conrad; got it
- 12:05:50 [davy]
- scribenick: davy
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- Zakim, mute me
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- conrad should now be muted
- 12:06:33 [Gui]
- zakim, mute me
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- Gui was already muted, Gui
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- +Yves
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- regrets: Jack, Raphaël
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- Topic: 1. ADMIN
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- Accept minutes on http://www.w3.org/2009/06/24-mediafrag-minutes.html?
- 12:09:36 [mhausenblas]
- +1
- 12:09:38 [erik]
- +1
- 12:09:40 [Yves]
- +1
- 12:09:43 [Gui]
- +1
- 12:09:54 [davy]
- erik: minutes accepted
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- TOPIC: 2. UC & REQUIREMENTS
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- erik: actions still ongoing
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- erik: Raphaël promised to do A-65 today
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- mhausenblas: can someone else do this action?
- 12:12:07 [davy]
- erik: if Raphaël is overloaded, he should give this action to someone else
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- ... we will ask him next time he's around
- 12:12:41 [mhausenblas]
- s/he should give this action to someone else/we would be happy to support him
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- erik: other actions: waiting for feedback
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- TOPIC: 3. SPECIFICATION
- 12:13:16 [mhausenblas]
- rrsagent, make logs public
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-mediafrag-minutes.html mhausenblas
- 12:13:37 [davy]
- erik: Yves, status A-49?
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- Yves: wait for the HTTP meeting
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- ... it should be quite easy to draft this syntax
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- mhausenblas: anything in HTTP bis specs that affect our group?
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- Yves: I see us as a consumer of the HTTP specs
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- ... but we need to ensure that what we use is well defined
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- erik: explaining the edit units mail
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- close ACTION-84
- 12:19:39 [trackbot]
- ACTION-84 Summarize the info from Jean Pierre, and mail it to the group closed
- 12:20:38 [davy]
- erik: regarding A-86, should we bring the comma optional?
- 12:21:31 [davy]
- erik: we can do a vote?
- 12:21:33 [conrad]
- optional +1
- 12:22:02 [davy]
- mhausenblas: is anybody against?
- 12:22:15 [erik]
- optional +1
- 12:23:21 [Gui]
- looking back into the last acceoted minutes, we had silvia stating it as option and 3 additional votes
- 12:23:49 [mhausenblas]
- Previous: http://www.w3.org/2009/06/24-mediafrag-minutes.html
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-mediafrag-minutes.html mhausenblas
- 12:24:02 [Gui]
- This was http://www.w3.org/2009/06/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03
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- Action: Yves to verify that making the comma optional brings no ambiguities in our syntax
- 12:25:18 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-88 - Verify that making the comma optional brings no ambiguities in our syntax [on Yves Lafon - due 2009-07-22].
- 12:26:22 [conrad]
- Zakim, unmute me
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- conrad should no longer be muted
- 12:26:27 [Gui]
- zakim, mute me
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- Gui should now be muted
- 12:26:38 [conrad]
- http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/HTTP_Examples
- 12:27:14 [mhausenblas]
- s/Previous:/Previous: 2009-06-24
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-mediafrag-minutes.html mhausenblas
- 12:27:29 [davy]
- erik: regarding A-63 ...
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- conrad: explaining the examples on the wiki page
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- erik: any comments?
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- Yves: did you changed the examples according to my comments?
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- conrad: yes, i did
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- close action-63
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- ACTION-63 Update the Wiki with his more general approach with precisely the same examples closed
- 12:30:45 [davy]
- close action-80
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- ACTION-80 Provide some rational and use cases for his proposal closed
- 12:31:22 [davy]
- conrad: A-69 is still ongoing
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- Zakim, mute me
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- conrad should now be muted
- 12:32:31 [mhausenblas]
- http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/Semantics
- 12:32:53 [davy]
- mhausenblas: A-64 is only possible after splitting the document (cfr. A-65)
- 12:33:23 [mhausenblas]
- http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/UserAgentMediaFragmentResolution
- 12:35:47 [davy]
- mhausenblas: A-87 is ongoing
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- TOPIC: 5. ISSUES
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- close action-76
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- ACTION-76 Contact the editors of MPEG-21 Part 17 regarding the registry of their scheme closed
- 12:38:04 [davy]
- erik: not clear yet if MPEG fragment identifiers are registered
- 12:39:34 [mhausenblas]
- I'm looking at http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4288
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- section 4.11
- 12:41:19 [mhausenblas]
- Michael: really two issues here
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- action: Yves to find out more about fragment identifier registration
- 12:41:43 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-89 - Find out more about fragment identifier registration [on Yves Lafon - due 2009-07-22].
- 12:41:52 [mhausenblas]
- Michael: one is re the SHOULD re frags in sec 4.11 of RFC4288
- 12:42:20 [davy]
- erik: status on a-62?
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- Yves: sent a mail to TAG, but no feedback yet
- 12:42:50 [mhausenblas]
- Michael: other is re registered image/*, video/* and audio/* - to me the answer here is: no, MPEG21 only has registered application/mp21 and hence we there is no clash
- 12:43:18 [davy]
- mhausenblas: A-82 is still ongoing
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- ... this depends on reviewing and discussing the test cases
- 12:45:35 [conrad]
- Zakim, unmute me
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- conrad should no longer be muted
- 12:45:43 [Gui]
- zakim, unmute me
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- Gui should no longer be muted
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- Zakim, mute me
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- conrad should now be muted
- 12:46:24 [davy]
- erik: resolutions for i-4 and i-10?
- 12:46:40 [conrad]
- Zakim, unmute me
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- conrad should no longer be muted
- 12:48:05 [davy]
- erik: no resolution yet on i-4, to be discussed further
- 12:48:40 [Gui]
- zakim, mute me
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- Gui should now be muted
- 12:48:41 [conrad]
- Zakim, mute me
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- conrad should now be muted
- 12:48:44 [mhausenblas]
- Michael: re issue 10 the answer is easy
- 12:48:45 [mhausenblas]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009May/0038.html
- 12:49:15 [Gui]
- We may need an action to resolve ISSUE-4.
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- We should find what action ( or maybe a vote) is required at any next teleconf when Silvia is present
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- TOPIC: 6. IMPLEMENTATION
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- erik: status?
- 12:50:09 [davy]
- ... first work further on syntax and test cases?
- 12:50:31 [mhausenblas]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-mediafrag-minutes.html mhausenblas
- 12:50:50 [Gui]
- Yves has looked at libraries in Java
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- Jack ( I think ) has looked at libraries in Python
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- Yves: looking for media slicing tools is part of the work, but do not depend on the syntax
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- ... so we can start working on this kind of things
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- ... not found a suitable non-transcoding media slicing tool
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- Yves asks for help for implementation : how to slice the media without transcoding
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- Zakim, unmute me
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- Davy should no longer be muted
- 12:53:05 [mhausenblas]
- scribenick: mhausenblas
- 12:53:10 [mhausenblas]
- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Jul/0014.html
- 12:53:17 [mhausenblas]
- scribenick: davy
- 12:53:30 [mhausenblas]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-mediafrag-minutes.html mhausenblas
- 12:53:51 [davy]
- action: davy to provide a pointer to Yves to a lib he can use to slice media files
- 12:53:51 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-90 - Provide a pointer to Yves to a lib he can use to slice media files [on Davy Van Deursen - due 2009-07-22].
- 12:54:06 [Gui]
- Zakim, unmute me
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- Gui should no longer be muted
- 12:54:24 [mhausenblas]
- scribenick: mhausenblas
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- Chair: erik
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- Previous: 2009-06-24 http://www.w3.org/2009/06/24-mediafrag-minutes.html
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- scribenick: davy
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- RRSAgent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-mediafrag-minutes.html mhausenblas
- 12:56:36 [davy]
- action: Gui to look at the python gst lib
- 12:56:36 [trackbot]
- Sorry, couldn't find user - Gui
- 12:56:41 [Gui]
- python-gst (gstreamer)
- 12:57:15 [davy]
- erik: aob?
- 12:58:00 [davy]
- Gui: do we need an action about writing papers
- 12:58:11 [Gui]
- Should an action be created on co-authoring and publishing papers in order to remind/coordinate the efforts?
- 12:58:21 [conrad]
- Zakim, unmute me
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- conrad should no longer be muted
- 12:59:55 [davy]
- action: Guillaume to look at the python gst lib
- 12:59:55 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-91 - Look at the python gst lib [on Guillaume (Jean-Louis) Olivrin - due 2009-07-22].
- 13:00:06 [Gui]
- thanks
- 13:00:11 [mhausenblas]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-mediafrag-minutes.html mhausenblas
- 13:00:53 [mhausenblas]
- drop action 4
- 13:00:54 [davy]
- action: Raphaël & Erik to coordinate the writing of papers
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- Sorry, couldn't find user - Raphaël
- 13:01:02 [davy]
- action: Raphael & Erik to coordinate the writing of papers
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- Sorry, couldn't find user - Raphael
- 13:01:17 [davy]
- action: Erik & Raphaël to coordinate the writing of papers
- 13:01:17 [trackbot]
- Could not create new action - action title not proper UTF-8
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- -mhausenblas
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- -Gui
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- -Yves
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- - +0329331aaaa
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- -Davy
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- -conrad
- 13:01:41 [davy]
- action: Erik & Raphael to coordinate the writing of papers
- 13:01:41 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-92 - & Raphael to coordinate the writing of papers [on Erik Mannens - due 2009-07-22].
- 13:01:42 [Zakim]
- IA_MFWG()8:00AM has ended
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- Attendees were +0329331aaaa, Gui, Davy, +3539149aacc, mhausenblas, conrad, Yves
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- Zakim, bye
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- Zakim has left #mediafrag
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- RRSAgent, bye
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- I see 9 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-mediafrag-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: Yves to verify that making the comma optional brings no ambiguities in our syntax [1]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-mediafrag-irc#T12-25-17
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- ACTION: Yves to find out more about fragment identifier registration [2]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-mediafrag-irc#T12-41-43
- 13:02:37 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: davy to provide a pointer to Yves to a lib he can use to slice media files [3]
- 13:02:37 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-mediafrag-irc#T12-53-51
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- ACTION: Gui to look at the python gst lib [4]
- 13:02:37 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-mediafrag-irc#T12-56-36
- 13:02:37 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Guillaume to look at the python gst lib [5]
- 13:02:37 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-mediafrag-irc#T12-59-55
- 13:02:37 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Raphaël & Erik to coordinate the writing of papers [6]
- 13:02:37 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-mediafrag-irc#T13-00-54
- 13:02:37 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Raphael & Erik to coordinate the writing of papers [7]
- 13:02:37 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-mediafrag-irc#T13-01-02
- 13:02:37 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Erik & Raphaël to coordinate the writing of papers [8]
- 13:02:37 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-mediafrag-irc#T13-01-17
- 13:02:37 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Erik & Raphael to coordinate the writing of papers [9]
- 13:02:37 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-mediafrag-irc#T13-01-41