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<TomB> Previous: http://www.w3.org/2008/06/03-swd-minutes.html
guus: decision on the RDFa documents the major agenda item today
guus: two telcos remaining
... assumed to finish with telco by june 24
... last telco minutes accepted
<scribe> ACTION: Ben to prepare draft implementation report for RDFa (with assistance from Michael) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14][CONTINUES]
<Ralph> [RDFa] CR for RDFa [Ben 2008-06-09]
guus: ralph should explain more on that
ralph: published LC for
RDFa
... in february
... WG is expected to collect comments
... once this is done, present to the director
... move to the last phase
... ready to issue the call for implementations then
... no objections in the TF
... open issues
... 106 - set of comments from TIMBL
... two classes of comments
... the claim of the TF is that the first class has been
addressed - by resolving the follow your nose issue
... the XHTML WG has decided to add this to the definition of
DTDs
... the spec says there should be a doctype to validate
guss: not a feature at risk ?
ralph: no
... issue 113
... request to define processing rules in the spec
... we believe the spec has clear processing rules for copying
doc fragments
guus: why this was not ruled out of scope?
ralph: we're not specifying proc.
rules, leaving it open
... issues not closed, response to commentor send
... no satisfaction indicated so far
... record the state of the comment by the tracker
guus: anymore question from the
WG?
... ed reviewed the document - are you happy to go to the
CR?
ed: yes
<Ralph> Ralph: the Task Force has in fact resolved issues 106 and 113 and replied to the commenter; they remain in the "open" state only while awaiting the commentor's acceptance of the resolution
guus: asking diego
... diego sent regrets
... assume he agrees
<Ralph> Guus: I have seen no indication of objection from Diego
guus: resolution proposed - ask
for transition of the RDFa documents
... and get CR status
ralph: we're done with CR if we have at least 2 implementation that pass test cases
<Ralph> PROPOSE: the SWD WG request the Director advance RDFa in XHTML: Syntax and Processing to Candidate Recommendation per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Jun/0032.html, with exit criteria being 2 implementations of each feature and 2 implementations that pass all tests
guus: asks for objections, who seconds the proposals?
ed: second it
RESOLUTION: the SWD WG request the Director advance RDFa in XHTML: Syntax and Processing to Candidate Recommendation per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Jun/0032.html, with exit criteria being 2 implementations of each feature and 2 implementations that pass all tests
guus: no objections, resolved by
consensus
... have to wait for XHTML decision
<Ralph> note that per the CR draft, we are proposing July 15 as the CR end date
<scribe> ACTION: Ralph to draft to draft the RDFa transition request [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/10-swd-minutes.html#action01]
ralph: no controversy with the director anticipated
guus: waiting for the
implementation report to be finished
... expect to have a telco middle July about the CR track
<edsu> Ralph++
jon: current status - completed
the document
... ralph expressed some irritation, we'll fix it
... not critical
... document is ready to publish we believe
... within the review
... several issues
... hash URIs - not addressed this use case
... usage of RDFa and GRDDL not covered - also an interested
use case
... before the end of this WG, the document should perhaps be
updated
... suggesting - publish the document, but revise the document
before the end of the WG
guus: we don't promise anything, but are open w.r.t. revisions
<Ralph> +1 to proceeding to NOTE for this document, noting in Status that RDFa, new purl.org, and LCSH cases are not covered
jon: possibilities: postpone or publish with possible revision in the future
guus: proposes to publish as WG
note
... see if we need revision later on
ralph: seconds guus
<TomB> +1 to advance note and update if necessary since that is an option
ralph: suggests mentioning the possibility of an update in the published document
guus: publishing good for giving an impression we're serious about that
jon: RDFa and GRDDL mentioned in a paragraph
guus: reviewers - ralph and ed - can comment on it?
<berrueta> I've been privately discussing this with Jon and I support his proposal to publish a note now and try to update the document before the end of the WG
ralph: happy to publish it
ed: happy as well
guus: advance to the note
PROPOSE: jon publish the document as working note
<edsu> JonP, berrueta: nice work!
guus: would like jon and ralph to take an action on reflecting the possible future activities related to the document
<Ralph> PROPOSE: Advance Recipes to Working Group Note
RESOLUTION: Advance Recipes to Working Group Note
<scribe> ACTION: Jon and Ralph to publish the document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/10-swd-minutes.html#action02]
<scribe> ACTION: Ralph propose resolution to ISSUE-16 "Default behavior" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14][DROPPED]
<scribe> ACTION: Ralph/Diego to work on Wordnet implementation [of Recipes implementations] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action20][CONTINUES]
guus: people really look at the WordNet implementation
<scribe> ACTION: Ralph to review the new Editor's Draft of the Recipes [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/13-swd-minutes.html#action06][DONE]
Guus: we have 4 reviews
... we were scheduled to get to a Working Draft by today
Vit: I've sent some materials to
Elisa
... she has taken this into account
... I suppose she has incorporated changes
... I shortened the research topics and resolved 5 or 6 remarks
from the reviewers
... I do not know the current status of the editors'
draft
... not sure if she has sent an update to the list
Ralph: I am not aware of any off-list discussion with the reviewers
Guus: we'll have to wait for Elisa to be on a telecon
guus: new reference WD published
<seanb> WD link
sean: commenting on the current
status
... addressed 1 or 2 issues
... some editorial stuff
... addition of a section on notations
... semantic relations and OWL imports covered
... cleaning up, produced RDF schemas of the documents
guus: the main amount of work related to the current issues
sean: don't think other major issues need to be addressed besides the open issues
antoine: status of the
primer
... no updates, only an editorial changes related to
reference
... only thing since two weeks ago
ed: holding things up
<scribe> ACTION: Ed to investigate what text could be added to primer re. concept co-ordination [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/22-swd-minutes.html#action02][CONTINUES]
<scribe> ACTION: Guus to write primer text re: broaderGeneric and equivalence w/r/t subclass [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/18-swd-minutes.html#action08][CONTINUES]
guus: discuss with antoine later on
<scribe> ACTION: Alistair to check the old namespace wrt dereferencing [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action03][CONTINUES]
<scribe> ACTION: Antoine and Ed to add content to Primer about irreflexivity [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action06][CONTINUES]
<scribe> ACTION: Ralph compose intermediate pages for http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-skos-core-spec and http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-skos-core-guide/ to inform readers of the paths to the old and new SKOS documents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action02][CONTINUES]
<seanb> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Jun/0024.html
<scribe> ACTION: Sean and Alistair to send a file for the namespace [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action04][DONE]
<scribe> ACTION: Sean to write a proposal to indicate to OWL WG our requirements for annotation properties [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action07][CONTINUES]
<scribe> ACTION: Editors of the Use Cases to clean up the lists of requirements in light of resolution [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/07-swd-minutes.html#action02][CONTINUES]
guus: would like this to be done around the end of june
<scribe> ACTION: Margherita to liase with author primer about example using plain literals and some with datatype literals [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/20-swd-minutes.html#action17][CONTINUES]
<seanb> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Jun/0025.html
<scribe> ACTION: Seanb to set up wiki for SKOS/OWL patterns [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/27-swd-minutes.html#action14][DONE]
<Ralph> [on a quick glance, it appears to me that the SKOS 2005 namespace http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core is dereferencing OK
<scribe> ACTION: Editors to produce a revised SKOS Reference WD for June 3 on which we can vote [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/27-swd-minutes.html#action15][DONE]
<edsu> seanb: where's that wiki page at< did i miss that?
<scribe> ACTION: Ed to write up the rationale behind the dereferencing behavior for LCSH [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/03-swd-minutes.html#action01][DONE]
ed: there is an e-mail about
that
... not provide more rationale now, willing to develop it more,
done for the moment
<edsu> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Jun/0019.html
<Ralph> thread on LCSH as SKOS linked data
guus: look at the issues
... issue 83
<Ralph> SKOS open issues
guus: wonders which issues are
included, open. etc.
... main point for the next weeks agenda - how to resolve the
last 6 issues
... move forward with issues 72, 73, 75
<scribe> ACTION: Guus to mail his position on issues 72, 73 and 75 to the list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/13-swd-minutes.html#action25][CONTINUES]
<Ralph> update RDFa primer
tom: publish the updated RDFa primer - the reviewers should check it before publishing
PROPOSE: publish the RDFa primer
<Ralph> updated RDFa Primer editor's draft (9 June)
<Zakim> TomB, you wanted to point out that RDFa action on Ben should be moved forward
tom: points out an action on Ben in RDFa
<Ralph> Guus: PROPOSE to publish the RDFa Primer contingent on Ed's final review
guus: any seconds?
ralph: second
RESOLUTION: to publish the RDFa Primer contingent on Ed's final review
<TomB> ACTION: Ben to prepare draft implementation report for RDFa (with assistance from Michael) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14][CONTINUES]
<Ralph> Ralph: reminder -- RDFa Primer will still be WD; intent is to transition to NOTE after end of CR