W3C

Semantic Web Deployment Working Group

13 May 2008

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Margherita Sini, Ed Summers, Quentin Reul, Diego Berrueta, Jon Phipps, Clay Redding , Ralph Swick, Vit Novacek, Daniel Rubin, Sean Bechhofer, Alistair Miles, Guus Schreiber, Elisa Kendall
Regrets
Tom Baker
Chair
Guus Schreiber
Scribe
Diego Berrueta

Contents


 

 

<Ralph> previous 2008-05-06

<Ralph> previous 2008-05-07

<scribe> scribe: berrueta

Admin

guus: 6 telcons ahead, expect to finish technical work in this time frame

next telecon: May 20

<Ralph> Guus: regrets for next week

<Ralph> Ralph: regrets for next week

PROPOSED to accept minutes of the Washington face-to-face

ralph: is there any question from those who weren't present at Washington?

marghe: first I need to read the minutes, maybe later I'll send an email

guus: (goes through the resolutions made at Washington)
... we have a list of remaining issues on SKOS

Ralph: procedurally, if anyone wants to object any resolution, he/she must do so

Guus: I propose to leave the approval of the minutes until next week in order to give time to others to review them

seanb: can we have a summary of the resolutions at the bottom of the minutes?

Ralph: that can be done by hand

Guus: let's start by the end of the agenda, then come back to skos for the time remaining

RDFa

Guus: telecon on may 8?

<Ralph> 2008-05-08 RDFa minutes (still draft)

Guus: anyone here was on that telecon? (no one answers)

diego's review of RDFa Primer Editor's draft -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Apr/0126.html

ed's review of RDFa Primer Editor's draft -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008May/0030.html

<scribe> ACTION: Diego to review RDFa Primer Editor's draft http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/primer/20080422/ [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/22-swd-minutes.html#action09] [DONE]

<scribe> ACTION: Ed to review RDFa Primer Editor's draft http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/primer/20080422/ [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/22-swd-minutes.html#action08] [DONE]

<scribe> ACTION: Ben to prepare draft implementation report for RDFa (with assistance from Michael) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14] [CONTINUES]

Recipes

jon: I'll post a new version of the document this week

guus: who reviewed the previous version?

ed: I reviewed the previous version
... I can review again

ralph: the latest public draft was published Jan 23

<Ralph> Latest Version of Recipes WD

Guus: I expect decision on 3 weeks, by Jun 3

Ralph: I can review, but I'll be unavailable this week

JonP: only minor technical details remain, fixing PURL pointers

<scribe> ACTION: Jon and Diego to publish a new Editor's Draft of the Recipes [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/13-swd-minutes.html#action04]

<scribe> ACTION: Ed to review the new Editor's Draft of the Recipes [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/13-swd-minutes.html#action05]

<scribe> ACTION: Ralph to review the new Editor's Draft of the Recipes [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/13-swd-minutes.html#action06]

<scribe> ACTION: Ralph propose resolution to ISSUE-16 "Default behavior" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14] [CONTINUES]

guus: Ralph, you can propose a solution to issue-16 in your review

<scribe> ACTION: Ralph/Diego to work on Wordnet implementation [of Recipes implementations] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action20] [CONTINUES]

<scribe> ACTION: Jon will correct the PURL references in the recipes and update the files in W3space [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/29-swd-minutes.html#action12] [CONTINUES]

Vocabulary Management

guus: I was not there during the discussion at the f2f

<Ralph> Vocab Management discussion

guus: can you recap the discussion, ralph?

ralph: we had an extensive discussion on the scope, the audience, current practices used by SKOS, DC, FOAF
... we agree to extend some paragraphs
... we expect a new draft from Elisa soon
... less focus on philosophy and more on current practices

vit: elisa is working on a version, still unfinished
... send the revised version by next week
... I won't have too much time before this weekend

Elisa: we'll try to have something by next week

SKOS

<scribe> ACTION: Alistair to make a proposal for Issue 40 (Concept Coordination) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-minutes.html#action09] [DONE]

<Ralph> issue-40 (postponed)

<scribe> ACTION: Alistair to review Antoine and Guus' emails to move ISSUE-71 and -74 [recorded inhttp://www.w3.org/2008/03/18-swd-minutes.html#action09] [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/13-swd-minutes.html#action11]

<scribe> ACTION: Ed to investigate what text could be added to primer re. concept co-ordination[recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/22-swd-minutes.html#action02] [CONTINUES]

guus: suggest to add some text to the primer to explain why it is not there

<scribe> ACTION: Ralph to check whether the common interpretation of rdfs isDefinedBy fits thereasoning that was made inhttp://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Oct/0141.html [recorded inhttp://www.w3.org/2007/12/18-swd-minutes.html#action10] [DROPPED] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/13-swd-minutes.html#action13]

<scribe> ACTION: alistair and sean to add a note about irreflexivity to Reference [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action05] [CONTINUES]

<scribe> ACTION: Alistair to check the old namespace wrt dereferencing [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action03] [CONTINUES]

<scribe> ACTION: antoine, ed to add content to Primer about irreflexivity [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action06] [CONTINUES]

<scribe> ACTION: Guus and Alistair write text for Reference indicating understanding of a possible need for future patterns for n-Ary label relations [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action08] [CONTINUES]

<scribe> ACTION: Guus and Sean propose some owl:imports text for Primer [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action01] [CONTINUES]

<scribe> ACTION: Ralph compose intermediate pages for http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-skos-core-spec and http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-skos-core-guide/ to inform readers of the paths to the old and new SKOS documents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action02] [CONTINUES]

<scribe> ACTION: Sean to write a proposal to indicate to OWL WG our requirements for annotation properties [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action07] [CONTINUES]

<scribe> ACTION: Clay will respond to Jakob about the resolution for notations and x-notation [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/07-swd-minutes.html#action01] [CONTINUES]

<scribe> ACTION: Editors of the Use Cases to clean up the lists of requirements in light of resolutions [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/07-swd-minutes.html#action02] [CONTINUES]

<scribe> ACTION: Sean and Alistair to send a file for the namespace [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action04] [CONTINUES]

guus goes through the list of open issues
... marghe, can you take a look at the discussion in the f2f regarding to symbolic labels?

marghe: I'll do that

guus: on the first day of the f2f there was almost consensus to drop them

marghe: for me it would be good to keep them because we may use them. I'll try to provide examples

<scribe> ACTION: marghe to send an email on the need to keep symbolic labels [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/13-swd-minutes.html#action24]

aliman describes issues 72, 73 and 75

guus and alistair will write their positions on these three issues (72, 73, 75)

seanb: consider the resolutions regarding broaderMatch, shall we do the same for exactMatch?

<scribe> ACTION: Guus to mail his position on issues 72, 73 and 75 to the list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/13-swd-minutes.html#action25]

Guus: issue 64, we resolved on this, but we didn't close the issue

<scribe> ACTION: aliman to close issue 64 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/13-swd-minutes.html#action26]

moving to SKOS reference

Guus: the idea is to have a document with just the resolutions of the f2f
... I can send you the section

moving to SKOS primer

guus: we would want to publish a new working draft by the end of June

ed: seems feasible, I need to discuss with antoine

<edsu> anyone who wasn't there and is interested, alistair's slides from his talk: http://www.slideshare.net/gardensofmeaning/simple-knowledge-organization-system-skos-in-the-context-of-semantic-web-deployment-library-of-congress-may-2008

guus: thanks to the host of the f2f meeting

[adjourned]

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: aliman to close issue 64 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/13-swd-minutes.html#action26]
[NEW] ACTION: Guus to mail his position on issues 72, 73 and 75 to the list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/13-swd-minutes.html#action25]
[NEW] ACTION: Jon and Diego to publish a new Editor's Draft of the Recipes [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/13-swd-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: marghe to send an email on the need to keep symbolic labels [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/13-swd-minutes.html#action24]
[NEW] ACTION: Ralph to review the new Editor's Draft of the Recipes [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/13-swd-minutes.html#action06]
 
[PENDING] ACTION: alistair and sean to add a note about irreflexivity to Reference [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action05]
[PENDING] ACTION: Alistair to check the old namespace wrt dereferencing [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action03]
[PENDING] ACTION: antoine, ed to add content to Primer about irreflexivity [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action06]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ben to prepare draft implementation report for RDFa (with assistance from Michael) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14]
[PENDING] ACTION: Clay will respond to Jakob about the resolution for notations and x-notation [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/07-swd-minutes.html#action01]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ed to investigate what text could be added to primer re. concept co-ordination [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/22-swd-minutes.html#action02]
[PENDING] ACTION: Editors of the Use Cases to clean up the lists of requirements in light of resolutions [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/07-swd-minutes.html#action02]
[PENDING] ACTION: Guus and Alistair write text for Reference indicating understanding of a possible need for future patterns for n-Ary label relations [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action08]
[PENDING] ACTION: Guus and Sean propose some owl:imports text for Primer [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action01]
[PENDING] ACTION: Jon will correct the PURL references in the recipes and update the files in W3space [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/29-swd-minutes.html#action12]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph compose intermediate pages for http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-skos-core-spec and http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-skos-core-guide/ to inform readers of the paths to the old and new SKOS documents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action02]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph propose resolution to ISSUE-16 "Default behavior" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph/Diego to work on Wordnet implementation [of Recipes implementations] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action20]
[PENDING] ACTION: Sean and Alistair to send a file for the namespace [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action04]
[PENDING] ACTION: Sean to write a proposal to indicate to OWL WG our requirements for annotation properties [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action07]
 
[DONE] ACTION: Alistair to make a proposal for Issue 40 (Concept Coordination) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-minutes.html#action09]
[DONE] ACTION: Alistair to review Antoine and Guus' emails to move ISSUE-71 and -74 [recorded inhttp://www.w3.org/2008/03/18-swd-minutes.html#action09] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/13-swd-minutes.html#action11]
[DONE] ACTION: Diego to review RDFa Primer Editor's draft http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/primer/20080422/ [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/22-swd-minutes.html#action09]
[DONE] ACTION: Ed to review RDFa Primer Editor's draft http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/primer/20080422/ [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/22-swd-minutes.html#action08]
 
[DROPPED] ACTION: Ralph to check whether the common interpretation of rdfs isDefinedBy fits thereasoning that was made inhttp://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Oct/0141.html [recorded inhttp://www.w3.org/2007/12/18-swd-minutes.html#action10] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/13-swd-minutes.html#action13]
 
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