LLD XG

<emma> Previous minutes: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/09/09-lld-minutes.html

<emma> Resgrets+: Andras, Bernard, Jodi

<emma> Scribe: Tod

<emma> scribenick: matolat

Administrative

RESOLVED:To accept minutes of previous telecon: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/09/09-lld-minutes.html

Face-to-face meetings

kcoyle: need a set of goals for F2F

emma: Not yet, want to discuss Use cases
... discuss Topic list at F2F, don't have the goals for F2F

<Zakim> TomB, you wanted to suggest that, as a goal, we clarify what deliverables we want to achieve by end of charter

kcoyle: Very broad topics, we need to help guide our thoughts to make good use of the time

TomB: chartered 1 year, number of wiki pages, artifacts, but we need to understand what we can deliver in our timeframe

<Zakim> antoine, you wanted to comment on use cases requirements topics

TomB: may want to decide what deliverables we can work on and what should be next steps

Antoine: Use case call will be closed,

<Zakim> antoine, you wanted to comment on organization

Emma: main goal F2F is to define the deliverables from the use cases

Antoine: question on mic and speaker, can supply them?

<kcoyle> for computer?

<antoine> karen, yes

<jeff_> i can ask if we have it

<antoine> +1

Use cases and case studies - update

emma: use case call sent

<emma> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Use_Cases_Gathering

<antoine> typically people send answers quite late :-)

antoine: number of lists that added and not sure if mail has been sent

marcia: has sent to her lists added

emma: Discussion of two related use cases (Joachim and Ed)

[1] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Use_Case_Publishing_20th_Century_Press_Archives

[2] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Use_Case_NDNP

<emma> http://zbw.eu/beta/p20/about

<antonie> what the data like at the project start and how was it enriched

<edsu> antoine: good question :)

Joachim: link to German authority file LLD impl
... difficult because don't have authority file idenitifers
... few American newspaper articles available, hope that other German databases to link to

I don't know if I caught all of that Joachim (please add comments?)

Joachim: the material is digitized newspaper clippings, with almost
... no metadata, organized in thematic folders
... we enriched person folders with links to German authority file LLD impl
... allows to pull in german and english dbpedia abstracts and thumbnails
... for company folders difficult because they don't have authority file idenitifers
... also added links to Eds Chronicling America
... few American newspaper articles available, hope German newspaper
... databases also publish LD to link to

<edsu> https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dv89m3d_466c3nxbc53

Edsu: Use case NDNP
... part of 20 year project digitize american newspaper. Start to move microfilm to be digitized
... 250Gb harddrives, of batches (xml. tiff. OCR files)
... LD is webapp that sit on top of data, search OCR and browse
... data is being cut off in 1922 copyright issues avoided
... each batch gets a name, browse from batch to issues
... problem how to get data to researchers
... have relational db, that could be dumped, this where LD approach helps
... mint cool URLs, get rdf that describe the data
... not hierarchical, graph view makes linking more natural.
... link to dbpedia get geo coordinates to map newspaper coverage
... links to flikr to allow folks to interact with data more

<antoine> Ed: really great!

Edsu: FOAF to describe the agent that produced the data, some additional project define vocab
... example use of data to explore Chicago news titles relate

<Zakim> antoine, you wanted to ask about use of ORE in two cases

Edsu: how to make annotations more readable. would be nice to capture them and add to the data set (e.g., from flikr)

antoine: have that 2 cases data been compared?

Edsu: look some at ORE data, but the vocab is small
... could be too generic

Joachim: want to apply to search results that are not covered by other vocab.

<edsu> here's an example of some rdf for a page w/ some oai-ore http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1880-02-03/ed-1/seq-1.rdf

Joachim: ORE allows to describe the boundaries of an aggregation
... and distinguish it from links to stuff outside of the aggregation

Edsu: nice about ORE, allows people to extract not just the metadata, but the things being described

Antoine: did you feel to need to choose the original data that you got?

<edsu> jneubert: you first :-)

Antoine: will take question offline

ACTION: Everyone to elaborate on topics in the wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/07/08-lld-minutes.html#action08] [CONTINUES]

<edsu> cheers :-)

<digikim> thanks!

<emma> [adjourned]

<antoine> ACTION: Potential attendees in Pittsburgh to use wiki page to indicate whether they are attending or not at http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/F2F [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/26-lld-minutes.html#action01] [DONE]