ISSUE-56

urls-webarch

Bring "URLs" section/definition and IRI specification in alignment.

State:

OPEN

Product:

HTML 5 spec

Raised by:

Michael(tm) Smith

Opened on:

2008-06-30

Description:

From Roy Fielding:
"...pretending to define a new URL standard as part
of HTML5 is not acceptable. ... HTML will never define the identifiers for the Web. That would be a fundamental violation of the Web architecture."

"Please note that we spent 12 years reaching a global agreement on
the meaning of URI, URL, URN, Web addresses, or whatever else you
might call them. ... I suggest that the section be removed or replaced with the
limited and specific needs for parsing href and src attribute
values such that the attribute's value string is mapped to a
URI-reference with a defined base-URI."

see complete message at: http://www.w3.org/mid/6842F3A9-5BBD-4A8B-BB54-73C116EE8785@gbiv.com

HTML5-SPEC-SECTIONS [urls]

Related Actions Items:

• ACTION-137 on Larry Masinter to Update IRI spec based on comments to Public-IRI (Including those from HTML-WG members), - due 2009-10-21, pending review
• ACTION-68 on Dan Connolly to try factoring URI/URL stuff out as a separate draft - due 2009-03-18, closed
• ACTION-118 on Dan Connolly to Reformat the document on URLs in HTML 5 as an Internet Draft - due 2009-05-07, closed
• ACTION-121 on Dan Connolly to Submit id for URLs in HTML 5 - due 2009-05-31, closed
• ACTION-125 on Julian Reschke to Coordinate with LMM and DanC to get an Internet Draft that addresses some HTML 5 href issues - due 2009-08-13, closed

Related emails:

1. Re: HTML CHANGE PROPOSAL; change definition of URL to normative reference to IRIBIS (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2009-11-05)
2. minutes Re: {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2009-10-29: issues, action items, calls for consensus/proposals, task forces, F2F... (from cooper@w3.org on 2009-10-29)
3. Re: {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2009-10-29: issues, action items, calls for consensus/proposals, task forces, F2F... (from singer@apple.com on 2009-10-29)
4. {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2009-10-29: issues, action items, calls for consensus/proposals, task forces, F2F... (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2009-10-28)
5. {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2009-10-22: AIs, Task Forces, F2F meeting plans (from mjs@apple.com on 2009-10-21)
6. minutes for 2009-10-15 HTML WG telcon (from mike@w3.org on 2009-10-16)
7. [VER 2] {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2009-10-15: AIs, Task Forces, F2F meeting plans (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2009-10-15)
8. Regrets for tomorrow; URL/IRI progress, ISSUE-56/ACTION-37 (from masinter@adobe.com on 2009-10-14)
9. Re: {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2009-10-15: AIs, Task Forces, F2F meeting plans (from singer@apple.com on 2009-10-14)
10. {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2009-10-15: AIs, Task Forces, F2F meeting plans (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2009-10-14)
11. {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2009-10-08: AIs, Task Forces, TPAC/ECMA, Decision Policy (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2009-10-07)
12. Minutes 2009-09-24 (from annevk@opera.com on 2009-09-24)
13. Agenda for HTML WG telcon 2009-09-24 - CfCs, Accessibility TF, Testing TF, etc. (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2009-09-22)
14. FW: Agenda for HTML WG telcon 2009-09-24 - CfCs, Accessibility TF, Testing TF, etc. (from Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com on 2009-09-22)
15. minutes for 2009-09-17 telcon (from mike@w3.org on 2009-09-20)
16. {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2009-09-17 (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2009-09-16)
17. Re: how many URL issues do we need/want? (from annevk@opera.com on 2009-09-11)
18. Re: how many URL issues doe we need/want? Re: Agenda for HTML WG telcon 2009-09-10 - Accessibility TF, Testing TF, etc (from mjs@apple.com on 2009-09-10)
19. how many URL issues doe we need/want? Re: Agenda for HTML WG telcon 2009-09-10 - Accessibility TF, Testing TF, etc (from connolly@w3.org on 2009-09-10)
20. RE: ISSUE-56: urls-webarch - suggest closing on 2009-09-03 (from masinter@adobe.com on 2009-08-24)
21. Re: ISSUE-56: urls-webarch - suggest closing on 2009-09-03 (from mjs@apple.com on 2009-08-24)
22. Re: ISSUE-56: urls-webarch - suggest closing on 2009-09-03 (from fielding@gbiv.com on 2009-08-24)
23. Re: ISSUE-56: urls-webarch - suggest closing on 2009-09-03 (from connolly@w3.org on 2009-08-24)
24. Re: ISSUE-56: urls-webarch - suggest closing on 2009-09-03 (from mjs@apple.com on 2009-08-21)
25. RE: ISSUE-56: urls-webarch - suggest closing on 2009-09-03 (from masinter@adobe.com on 2009-08-21)
26. Re: ISSUE-56: urls-webarch - suggest closing on 2009-09-03 (from ian@hixie.ch on 2009-08-21)
27. Re: change 'URL' to 'web address' throughout the HTML 5 spec (Issue-56 urls-webarch) (from hsivonen@iki.fi on 2009-08-21)
28. Re: ISSUE-56: urls-webarch - suggest closing on 2009-09-03 (from mjs@apple.com on 2009-08-21)
29. Re: ISSUE-56: urls-webarch - suggest closing on 2009-09-03 (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2009-08-21)
30. Re: New Version Notification for draft-duerst-iri-bis-06 (from mjs@apple.com on 2009-08-21)
31. Re: ISSUE-56: urls-webarch - suggest closing on 2009-09-03 (from mjs@apple.com on 2009-08-21)
32. Re: ISSUE-56: urls-webarch - suggest closing on 2009-09-03 (from ian@hixie.ch on 2009-08-21)
33. Re: ISSUE-56: urls-webarch - suggest closing on 2009-09-03 (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2009-08-21)
34. Re: ISSUE-56: urls-webarch - suggest closing on 2009-09-03 (from mjs@apple.com on 2009-08-21)
35. Re: ISSUE-56: urls-webarch - suggest closing on 2009-09-03 (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2009-08-21)
36. ISSUE-56: urls-webarch - suggest closing on 2009-09-03 (from mjs@apple.com on 2009-08-20)
37. change 'URL' to 'web address' throughout the HTML 5 spec (Issue-56 urls-webarch) (from connolly@w3.org on 2009-08-20)
38. {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2009-08-20 (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2009-08-19)
39. Input on the agenda (from ian@hixie.ch on 2009-06-01)
40. minutes: HTML WG telecon 2009-05-07 [draft] (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2009-05-07)
41. Input on the agenda (from ian@hixie.ch on 2009-04-27)
42. Re: {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2009-04-23 (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2009-04-24)
43. Re: {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2009-04-23 (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2009-04-24)
44. Input on the agenda (from ian@hixie.ch on 2009-04-21)
45. Input on the agenda (from ian@hixie.ch on 2009-04-15)
46. Input on the agenda (from ian@hixie.ch on 2009-04-06)
47. Input on the agenda (from ian@hixie.ch on 2009-03-31)
48. Input on the agenda (from ian@hixie.ch on 2009-03-24)
49. Re: 'Web addresses in HTML 5' for review (ISSUE-56 urls-webarch) (from annevk@opera.com on 2009-03-24)
50. Re: 'Web addresses in HTML 5' for review (ISSUE-56 urls-webarch) (from ian@hixie.ch on 2009-03-23)
51. Re: 'Web addresses in HTML 5' for review (ISSUE-56 urls-webarch) (from ht@inf.ed.ac.uk (Henry S. Thompson) on 2009-03-23)
52. Re: 'Web addresses in HTML 5' for review (ISSUE-56 urls-webarch) (from ht@inf.ed.ac.uk (Henry S. Thompson) on 2009-03-23)
53. Re: 'Web addresses in HTML 5' for review (ISSUE-56 urls-webarch) (from annevk@opera.com on 2009-03-23)
54. Re: 'Web addresses in HTML 5' for review (ISSUE-56 urls-webarch) (from ht@inf.ed.ac.uk (Henry S. Thompson) on 2009-03-23)
55. Re: 'Web addresses in HTML 5' for review (ISSUE-56 urls-webarch) (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2009-03-23)
56. Re: 'Web addresses in HTML 5' for review (ISSUE-56 urls-webarch) (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2009-03-23)
57. Re: 'Web addresses in HTML 5' for review (ISSUE-56 urls-webarch) (from connolly@w3.org on 2009-03-20)
58. Re: 'Web addresses in HTML 5' for review (ISSUE-56 urls-webarch) (from tlr@w3.org on 2009-03-19)
59. Re: 'Web addresses in HTML 5' for review (ISSUE-56 urls-webarch) (from tlr@w3.org on 2009-03-19)
60. Re: 'Web addresses in HTML 5' for review (ISSUE-56 urls-webarch) (from connolly@w3.org on 2009-03-18)
61. Re: 'Web addresses in HTML 5' for review (ISSUE-56 urls-webarch) (from fielding@gbiv.com on 2009-03-18)
62. Re: 'Web addresses in HTML 5' for review (ISSUE-56 urls-webarch) (from connolly@w3.org on 2009-03-18)
63. Re: 'Web addresses in HTML 5' for review (ISSUE-56 urls-webarch) (from jonas@sicking.cc on 2009-03-18)
64. Re: 'Web addresses in HTML 5' for review (ISSUE-56 urls-webarch) (from ian@hixie.ch on 2009-03-18)
65. Re: 'Web addresses in HTML 5' for review (ISSUE-56 urls-webarch) (from marco.neumann@gmail.com on 2009-03-18)
66. Re: 'Web addresses in HTML 5' for review (ISSUE-56 urls-webarch) (from connolly@w3.org on 2009-03-18)
67. Re: 'Web addresses in HTML 5' for review (ISSUE-56 urls-webarch) (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2009-03-18)
68. Re: 'Web addresses in HTML 5' for review (ISSUE-56 urls-webarch) (from marco.neumann@gmail.com on 2009-03-18)
69. Re: 'Web addresses in HTML 5' for review (ISSUE-56 urls-webarch) (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2009-03-18)
70. Re: 'Web addresses in HTML 5' for review (ISSUE-56 urls-webarch) (from marco.neumann@gmail.com on 2009-03-18)
71. Re: 'Web addresses in HTML 5' for review (ISSUE-56 urls-webarch) (from annevk@opera.com on 2009-03-18)
72. Re: 'Web addresses in HTML 5' for review (ISSUE-56 urls-webarch) (from annevk@opera.com on 2009-03-18)
73. Re: 'Web addresses in HTML 5' for review (ISSUE-56 urls-webarch) (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2009-03-18)
74. Re: 'Web addresses in HTML 5' for review (ISSUE-56 urls-webarch) (from connolly@w3.org on 2009-03-18)
75. Re: 'Web addresses in HTML 5' for review (ISSUE-56 urls-webarch) (from annevk@opera.com on 2009-03-18)
76. 'Web addresses in HTML 5' for review (ISSUE-56 urls-webarch) (from connolly@w3.org on 2009-03-18)
77. Input on the agenda (from ian@hixie.ch on 2009-03-16)
78. {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2009-03-12 (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2009-03-11)
79. {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2009-03-12 (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2009-03-11)
80. Input on the agenda (from ian@hixie.ch on 2009-03-09)
81. HTML WG telcon 2009-03-05 *cancelled* (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2009-03-04)
82. HTML WG telcon 2009-03-05 *cancelled* (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2009-03-04)
83. Re: Input on the agenda (from connolly@w3.org on 2009-02-23)
84. Input on the agenda (from ian@hixie.ch on 2009-02-23)
85. minutes: HTML WG telecon 2009-02-19 [draft] (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2009-02-19)
86. minutes: HTML WG weekly telcon 22 Jan 2009 (from connolly@w3.org on 2009-01-23)
87. Re: HTML5 URL vs. IRI vs. URI... (from connolly@w3.org on 2008-08-22)
88. Re: heads-up about 'new' URLs section in HTML5 editor's draft (from rob@robburns.com on 2008-06-30)
89. HTML5 'URL' definition vs. Web architecture [was: heads-up about 'new' URLs section in HTML5 editor's draft] (from mike@w3.org on 2008-06-30)
90. Re: heads-up about 'new' URLs section in HTML5 editor's draft (from fielding@gbiv.com on 2008-06-30)

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