ISSUE-41

Decentralized-extensibility

Decentralized extensibility

State:
RAISED
Product:
HTML Principles/Requirements
Raised by:
Sam Ruby
Opened on:
2008-05-08
Description:
The HTML5 specification does not have a mechanism to allow decentralized parties to create their own languages, typically XML languages, and exchange them in HTML5 text/html serializations.  This would allow languages such as SVG, MathML, FBML and a host of others to be included.  At one point, an editors version of the HTML5 specification contained a subset and reformulation of SVG and MathML.  Tim Berners-Lee described this incorporation of SVG and MathML without namespaces as horrific and the issue raiser [Dave Orchard] completely concurs with the him.  
 
This issue limits the ability of non-HTML5 working groups to define languages as the languages must be "brought into" the HTML5 language.  This dramatically increases the scope of HTML5 and decreases the ability to modularize development of orthogonal languages.  
 
In the end, the problem could result in the text/html serialization rules becoming the standard serialization rules for XML languages, replacing XML itself.  This could occur if every decentralized language has a choice between the XML serialization, the text/html serialization or both.  In many cases, the language may choose the text/html serialization.  
 
This issue was first raised in August 2007 by Sam Ruby in [1] and also raised at the recent W3C AC meeting by Tim Berners-Lee [2]
  
[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2007Aug/0134.html
[2] http://www.w3.org/2008/Talks/0421-ac-tbl/#(1) (member-only link until Tim publishes in a public way)

HTML5-SPEC-SECTIONS [semantics-0 extensibility]
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  1. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from hober0@gmail.com on 2009-10-29)
  2. RE: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from tross@microsoft.com on 2009-10-29)
  3. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from jonas@sicking.cc on 2009-10-28)
  4. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from jackalmage@gmail.com on 2009-10-28)
  5. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from shelley.just@gmail.com on 2009-10-28)
  6. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from Simetrical+w3c@gmail.com on 2009-10-28)
  7. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from jonas@sicking.cc on 2009-10-28)
  8. RE: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from tross@microsoft.com on 2009-10-28)
  9. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no on 2009-10-26)
  10. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from lee.kowalkowski@googlemail.com on 2009-10-26)
  11. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no on 2009-10-25)
  12. RE: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from tross@microsoft.com on 2009-10-24)
  13. RE: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from tross@microsoft.com on 2009-10-24)
  14. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from mjs@apple.com on 2009-10-23)
  15. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from mjs@apple.com on 2009-10-23)
  16. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from jonas@sicking.cc on 2009-10-23)
  17. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from jonas@sicking.cc on 2009-10-23)
  18. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from jonas@sicking.cc on 2009-10-23)
  19. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2009-10-23)
  20. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no on 2009-10-23)
  21. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2009-10-23)
  22. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2009-10-23)
  23. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no on 2009-10-23)
  24. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from shelley.just@gmail.com on 2009-10-22)
  25. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from mjs@apple.com on 2009-10-22)
  26. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2009-10-22)
  27. RE: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from ian@hixie.ch on 2009-10-22)
  28. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2009-10-22)
  29. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from hober0@gmail.com on 2009-10-22)
  30. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from jackalmage@gmail.com on 2009-10-22)
  31. RE: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from tross@microsoft.com on 2009-10-22)
  32. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from shelley.just@gmail.com on 2009-10-21)
  33. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from shelley.just@gmail.com on 2009-10-21)
  34. Re: data-* attributes [was: Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility] (from mjs@apple.com on 2009-10-21)
  35. Re: data-* attributes [was: Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility] (from mjs@apple.com on 2009-10-21)
  36. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from mjs@apple.com on 2009-10-21)
  37. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from mjs@apple.com on 2009-10-21)
  38. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from jgraham@opera.com on 2009-10-21)
  39. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from jonas@sicking.cc on 2009-10-20)
  40. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from jonas@sicking.cc on 2009-10-20)
  41. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from jgraham@opera.com on 2009-10-20)
  42. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2009-10-20)
  43. RE: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from jgraham@opera.com on 2009-10-20)
  44. RE: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from tross@microsoft.com on 2009-10-20)
  45. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from shelley.just@gmail.com on 2009-10-20)
  46. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from jonas@sicking.cc on 2009-10-20)
  47. RE: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from tross@microsoft.com on 2009-10-20)
  48. RE: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from tross@microsoft.com on 2009-10-20)
  49. Re: data-* attributes [was: Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility] (from joedwil@earthlink.net on 2009-10-19)
  50. Re: data-* attributes [was: Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility] (from Simetrical+w3c@gmail.com on 2009-10-19)
  51. Re: data-* attributes [was: Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility] (from shelley.just@gmail.com on 2009-10-19)
  52. Re: data-* attributes [was: Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility] (from jackalmage@gmail.com on 2009-10-19)
  53. Re: data-* attributes [was: Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility] (from jackalmage@gmail.com on 2009-10-19)
  54. Re: data-* attributes [was: Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility] (from shelley.just@gmail.com on 2009-10-19)
  55. Re: data-* attributes [was: Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility] (from jackalmage@gmail.com on 2009-10-19)
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  57. Re: data-* attributes [was: Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility] (from shelley.just@gmail.com on 2009-10-19)
  58. Re: data-* attributes [was: Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility] (from xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no on 2009-10-19)
  59. Re: data-* attributes [was: Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility] (from xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no on 2009-10-19)
  60. Re: data-* attributes [was: Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility] (from jackalmage@gmail.com on 2009-10-19)
  61. Re: data-* attributes [was: Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility] (from shelley.just@gmail.com on 2009-10-19)
  62. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from Simetrical+w3c@gmail.com on 2009-10-19)
  63. Re: data-* attributes [was: Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility] (from jackalmage@gmail.com on 2009-10-19)
  64. Re: data-* attributes [was: Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility] (from jgraham@opera.com on 2009-10-19)
  65. data-* attributes [was: Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility] (from jgraham@opera.com on 2009-10-19)
  66. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no on 2009-10-19)
  67. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no on 2009-10-19)
  68. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from pjt47@cam.ac.uk on 2009-10-19)
  69. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no on 2009-10-19)
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  88. RE: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from adrianba@microsoft.com on 2009-10-18)
  89. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from jonas@sicking.cc on 2009-10-18)
  90. RE: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from adrianba@microsoft.com on 2009-10-18)
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  92. RE: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from adrianba@microsoft.com on 2009-10-18)
  93. RE: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from jgraham@opera.com on 2009-10-18)
  94. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from jonas@sicking.cc on 2009-10-17)
  95. RE: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from tross@microsoft.com on 2009-10-17)
  96. RE: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from adrianba@microsoft.com on 2009-10-17)
  97. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from jonas@sicking.cc on 2009-10-16)
  98. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from joedwil@earthlink.net on 2009-10-16)
  99. RE: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from tross@microsoft.com on 2009-10-16)
  100. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from jonas@sicking.cc on 2009-10-15)
  101. Re: FW: Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from mike@w3.org on 2009-10-15)
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  103. FW: Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from adrianba@microsoft.com on 2009-10-15)
  104. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from tross@microsoft.com on 2009-10-14)
  105. RE: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from tross@microsoft.com on 2009-10-14)
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  108. Re: ISSUE-41/ACTION-97 decentralized-extensibility (from julian.reschke@gmx.de on 2009-10-06)
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Related notes:

2008-05-23 10:05:59: (Changing this to closed seems to have changed the name of who raised it; not sure what to do about this, David doesn't appear in the list for me.) [Ian Hickson]

2008-06-26 17:04:27: I don't think we can make this design decision so blithely, and the justifications of comparing to MARQUEE, BLINK and LAYER are missing part of the point - the decentralized extensibility would be for app/content builders, not for browser vendors. [Chris Wilson]

2009-01-12 20:21:01: <rubys> last week ChrisW indicated that he would prefer that that [demote from open to raised] NOT be done. We need to chat (Chris and I). [Dan Connolly]

2009-02-16 17:31:25: editor's position seems to be given in
Supporting MathML and SVG in text/html, and related topics
Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:51:20 +0000
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Apr/0205.html

see also

r1399 Fri Apr 4 17:07:36 PDT 2008
http://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/commit-watchers-whatwg.org/2008/000592.html
[Dan Connolly]

2009-04-08 15:00:07: http://intertwingly.net/blog/2009/04/08/HTML-Reunification [Sam Ruby]

2009-08-10 18:16:34: See ISSUE-76 [Shawn Medero]

2009-10-01 07:25:57: [MikeSmith]: initial proposal from Tony Ross is at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Sep/att-1216/MicrosoftDistributedExtensibilitySubmission.htm

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